Luna's success in the e bike biz reminds me of the way the best early hang glider and then ultralight aircraft businesses came about: they were founded by people who were first and foremost avid fliers, that had to make for themselves what they felt was the best aircraft for their needs. And then....., other people asked them if they could buy one, and before they knew it they were in business! When you deal with Luna, you are not dealing with a faceless corporation, but rabid e bike geeks who are learning how to run a business, making it up as they go along, and getting better at it by the day, as this video illustrates.
Thank you so much for going out to Cali to interview the founder of Luna! I've been interested in them since I found out they distribute Sur Ron. To me, Luna is the biggest name in ebikes, other than maybe Rad, and I never see channels talking about them or reviewing their bikes. Glad to learn what the X2 bike is. I want an eMTB but was thinking I'd need to buy a $3200 Salsa bike and motor/battery. The X2 in the end is better, and no engineering work done by me! Now I know what to save up for. The shocks are 160mm, which is real MTB spec.
We are so glad you dig this. We also think Luna gets too little attention. They sell some fantastic bikes. X2 is incredible. We now have one. Right now we have too many videos in production for us to do it justice but we will produce a full review when we can give it the attention it deserves. That will be a special review.
If you follow them on social media, it could be helpful for you to drop a hint. If enough people want us to go, they'll send an invite and we can head on up there to check them out! :)
Wowza, Laycee. You're sure making the most of this CA trip. Since you're in El Segundo, I hope you stop by to say 'hi' to Chelsea. I'm jealous! Y'know, the more I see of your work, your reviews, your interviews, the more I realize… I'm out of my league here… and will never catch up. Indeed, my pitiful Bafang conversion now makes me blush. Kudos to you! So glad you're on this planet to help enlighten us.
We had a lot of fun in California in October and learned a lot. We are happy to be progressing through post production and publishing these stories. Thank you for your encouragement. You are right, the technology is moving quickly. It is fun to see.
@@MissGoElectric Aha…! So it's a backlog! Now I get it. I thought that perhaps you had gone to CA early to attend the LA Auto Show next week. My mistake!
@@Yanquetino editing, color work, and publishing for a tour like the one at EBC takes us about 20 hours. Bike reviews take slightly less time to edit but more time to build and shoot. We publish most segments we about a month after production. Occasionally we bump a project to the front of the line. Usually that would be event coverage or content with an expiration date.
Thank you. I thought so too. It was very insightful and fun to talk to Eric. Not too many ebike companies are really focused on advancing the engineering like they are. Thanks for tuning in :)
We think part two (the interview) is even better. Eric has great stories and a colorful personality. ua-cam.com/video/F_50y8Ma6Us/v-deo.html -Producer Tim
@@MissGoElectric oh, yeah they make pretty high end ebikes. Their hydra is pretty similar to Lunas high end emtbs. Bafang motor, throttle, 40mph, carbon fiber, full suspension, wattwagons is based in the US as well which is nice. Just purchased one of their bikes so we shall see if it lives up to my expectations of a 6k electric bike 😬.
Has the quality improved? I have been keeping an eye on the Luna Stealth but the reports of burned out motors and lack of service a little scary. Hope things improved.
Unless you live in California close to the shop, DO NOT BUY ONE. Mine has been broke more than it has been working and there's no way to get it repaired. I took the battery out and put it back in and the bike literally caught on fire. Now there's nothing I can do to get it working again. I have even been willing to drive 6 1/2 hours to the shop and have them work on it but it would still take them several days and cost me several hundred dollars. Hey mysterious
Thanks for sharing your experience. We live in Michigan and have enjoyed the Luna X2 as well as the Luna Surron XX. We've experienced no trouble of any kind and this is the first we've heard of an experience like this with tens of thousands of viewers. -Producer Tim
@@MissGoElectric ok, in all fairness, while it was a pain and cost me an extra $100 in shipping. I shipped the motor and battery to them and they fixed it. It was expensive but less than buying a new bike. I'm anxious to see if this one lasts.
The X2 is their crowning achievement. During the pandemic when prices were sky high the X2 offered world class value for performance. I have the Ludi and it’s an absolute trail bully. The only thing Luna need to do now is to improve the low cadence torque in the firmware. I can’t wait for the X3.
OK, the X2 is a really interesting bike. I have to wonder if it could be tuned to be legal as a category one bike for competition sake. If they could do that, I believe it would make that a game changer. But more importantly, what is the story on the dinosaur outside. We really need more info on that. Thanks for the video, I really enjoyed it as it is nice to put a face to a company that I have purchased from before.
I agree with you, it is a very intriguing machine. I'm going to be doing a review of the X2 soon so stay tuned. Eric, Ashley and the team are an eccentric bunch so the decor inside and out is incredibly creative and fun! I did not get the story behind the dino but in my opinion it just fits the vibe going on here lol. Definitely recommend stopping by if you ever get the chance. Thanks for watching!
We are lucky to have so much choice in the US right now. We foresee the demise of many large and small players over the next two years. It will be interesting to see how the landscape changes. Thanks for watching and commenting. -Producer Tim
@@MissGoElectric i bought a s73 a few years ago when they first started… it’s crazy to see how much bike you can get in a telaria x3 vs what you would get from s73 for the same or more money. I don’t recommend them at all unless you just want to blend in on a bike path or something.
Development costs must be attributed to the yield when expressing the economic realities of production. Accounting can be honestly presented in many ways and this is not a lie. -Producer Tim
More than three years ago we paid for our first Luna product. It was the Surron XX. We also purchased the belt kit and we did need customer support. They answered the phone immediately and helped us with answers. At that time, we were a new channel with no following and no reviews. The XX was one of our first. ua-cam.com/video/jOeQgkJpjSU/v-deo.html Since then we have added a Luna X2 eMTB. It appears in this video: ua-cam.com/video/-lIT3QpkYRo/v-deo.html That works out to about $8000 in Luna products and thousands of miles ridden. Not the answer you were hoping for? We have lots of Luna experience along with about 100 other eBikes. -Producer Tim
Luna's success in the e bike biz reminds me of the way the best early hang glider and then ultralight aircraft businesses came about: they were founded by people who were first and foremost avid fliers, that had to make for themselves what they felt was the best aircraft for their needs. And then....., other people asked them if they could buy one, and before they knew it they were in business! When you deal with Luna, you are not dealing with a faceless corporation, but rabid e bike geeks who are learning how to run a business, making it up as they go along, and getting better at it by the day, as this video illustrates.
right on
Thank you so much for going out to Cali to interview the founder of Luna! I've been interested in them since I found out they distribute Sur Ron. To me, Luna is the biggest name in ebikes, other than maybe Rad, and I never see channels talking about them or reviewing their bikes. Glad to learn what the X2 bike is. I want an eMTB but was thinking I'd need to buy a $3200 Salsa bike and motor/battery. The X2 in the end is better, and no engineering work done by me! Now I know what to save up for. The shocks are 160mm, which is real MTB spec.
We are so glad you dig this. We also think Luna gets too little attention. They sell some fantastic bikes.
X2 is incredible. We now have one. Right now we have too many videos in production for us to do it justice but we will produce a full review when we can give it the attention it deserves. That will be a special review.
Great video! LUNA ROCKS!
Agreed
Great story!
It was cool to learn so much about Eric's journey creating Luna Cycle.
I noticed they don't offer one single step thru model, seems to me they're missing out on a pretty big segment of the e bike buying public.
We are also partial to step through bikes but we know Luna is aiming for "badass" rather than general purpose.
I must say iam really enjoying these videos. Please come to Canada and do a story on my favorite company Fabolous ebikes. Please 🙏
If you follow them on social media, it could be helpful for you to drop a hint. If enough people want us to go, they'll send an invite and we can head on up there to check them out! :)
Luna and GRIN have a 🇨🇦 connection too
Wowza, Laycee. You're sure making the most of this CA trip. Since you're in El Segundo, I hope you stop by to say 'hi' to Chelsea. I'm jealous! Y'know, the more I see of your work, your reviews, your interviews, the more I realize… I'm out of my league here… and will never catch up. Indeed, my pitiful Bafang conversion now makes me blush. Kudos to you! So glad you're on this planet to help enlighten us.
We had a lot of fun in California in October and learned a lot. We are happy to be progressing through post production and publishing these stories. Thank you for your encouragement.
You are right, the technology is moving quickly. It is fun to see.
@@MissGoElectric Aha…! So it's a backlog! Now I get it. I thought that perhaps you had gone to CA early to attend the LA Auto Show next week. My mistake!
@@Yanquetino editing, color work, and publishing for a tour like the one at EBC takes us about 20 hours. Bike reviews take slightly less time to edit but more time to build and shoot. We publish most segments we about a month after production. Occasionally we bump a project to the front of the line. Usually that would be event coverage or content with an expiration date.
Mad genius
We love to introduce the colorful characters behind eMobility. Meet more at: incharge.missgoelectric.con
A lot of tech info in this segment. Really interesting.
Thank you. I thought so too. It was very insightful and fun to talk to Eric. Not too many ebike companies are really focused on advancing the engineering like they are. Thanks for tuning in :)
Fascinating!
We think part two (the interview) is even better. Eric has great stories and a colorful personality.
ua-cam.com/video/F_50y8Ma6Us/v-deo.html
-Producer Tim
I know, but they're neglecting the wrinkle ass market. There are a lot more wrinkle than bad.
Hah! Clever.
Luna Cycle Part 2 link says video has been removed?
ua-cam.com/video/F_50y8Ma6Us/v-deo.html
Thank you, we've fixed it.
Oh nice. Would be interesting if you met with wattwagons too!
We aren't familiar with them, but we will look them up.
@@MissGoElectric oh, yeah they make pretty high end ebikes. Their hydra is pretty similar to Lunas high end emtbs. Bafang motor, throttle, 40mph, carbon fiber, full suspension, wattwagons is based in the US as well which is nice. Just purchased one of their bikes so we shall see if it lives up to my expectations of a 6k electric bike 😬.
X2 for me or maybe the Apollo for $700 more. Apollo is out of stock is it worth the wait or just go with the X2?
We have an X2 and it is a delight. We have no experience with the Apollo.
Direct MOSFETs aren't military grade ;) They have a tendency to desolder underneath their heatspreader 😊 So I'm totally on the side of the Marco 😁
Ok.
Has the quality improved? I have been keeping an eye on the Luna Stealth but the reports of burned out motors and lack of service a little scary. Hope things improved.
We have no new insight to offer.
Eric just comes across as really nice, straightforward man. I look forward to being able to buy one of his bikes!
He has been very warm, encouraging, and welcoming to us. We are happy to see him succeed. Thank you for watching! -Producer Tim
I’m torn on wanting either z1 or x2
X2 has a motor which is more discreet and we have been happy with ours so far
Next time please ask him why he didn't put a brake sensor nor a shift sensor in it
Thanks for watching!
We don't have another interview planned but they are active on social media and you could ask them directly.
Unless you live in California close to the shop, DO NOT BUY ONE. Mine has been broke more than it has been working and there's no way to get it repaired. I took the battery out and put it back in and the bike literally caught on fire. Now there's nothing I can do to get it working again. I have even been willing to drive 6 1/2 hours to the shop and have them work on it but it would still take them several days and cost me several hundred dollars. Hey mysterious
Thanks for sharing your experience. We live in Michigan and have enjoyed the Luna X2 as well as the Luna Surron XX. We've experienced no trouble of any kind and this is the first we've heard of an experience like this with tens of thousands of viewers. -Producer Tim
@@MissGoElectric ok, in all fairness, while it was a pain and cost me an extra $100 in shipping. I shipped the motor and battery to them and they fixed it. It was expensive but less than buying a new bike. I'm anxious to see if this one lasts.
The X2 is their crowning achievement. During the pandemic when prices were sky high the X2 offered world class value for performance. I have the Ludi and it’s an absolute trail bully. The only thing Luna need to do now is to improve the low cadence torque in the firmware. I can’t wait for the X3.
We have the X2 Ludi and think it is great. We'll feature it in some content this summer.
Some nice machines. Cool stuff!
Completely agree, Norm!
Cant wait until this black bikes trend ends. Looks like spray can and enjoy looking at your scratches
Maybe at Luna it is not merely a trend. Black frames have been central to their brand from the start. -Producer Tim
Ahh yes the worlds greatest car, Koenigsburgg.
We look forward to their Dark Matter motors shaking up the business. -Producer Tim
OK, the X2 is a really interesting bike. I have to wonder if it could be tuned to be legal as a category one bike for competition sake. If they could do that, I believe it would make that a game changer. But more importantly, what is the story on the dinosaur outside. We really need more info on that. Thanks for the video, I really enjoyed it as it is nice to put a face to a company that I have purchased from before.
I agree with you, it is a very intriguing machine. I'm going to be doing a review of the X2 soon so stay tuned.
Eric, Ashley and the team are an eccentric bunch so the decor inside and out is incredibly creative and fun! I did not get the story behind the dino but in my opinion it just fits the vibe going on here lol. Definitely recommend stopping by if you ever get the chance.
Thanks for watching!
Super73 is good at marketing but they make piles of overpriced 💩
We are lucky to have so much choice in the US right now. We foresee the demise of many large and small players over the next two years. It will be interesting to see how the landscape changes. Thanks for watching and commenting.
-Producer Tim
@@MissGoElectric i bought a s73 a few years ago when they first started… it’s crazy to see how much bike you can get in a telaria x3 vs what you would get from s73 for the same or more money. I don’t recommend them at all unless you just want to blend in on a bike path or something.
A serious eDirt bike is certainly not a competitor for street-intended eMoped bikes. Thanks for commenting -Producer Tim
He is lying, that controller cost them like 10 USD to produce. Of course there was lot of money in developement.
Development costs must be attributed to the yield when expressing the economic realities of production. Accounting can be honestly presented in many ways and this is not a lie. -Producer Tim
All the made ebikes from Lunna are shitty quality! Cheap components, bad customer service.
The opinion you have expressed does not mirror our experience with the Luna product or support team. -Producer Tim
@@MissGoElectric Ok Lady. How many stuff you did buy from them? As I did. Many people can talk about customer service.
More than three years ago we paid for our first Luna product. It was the Surron XX. We also purchased the belt kit and we did need customer support. They answered the phone immediately and helped us with answers. At that time, we were a new channel with no following and no reviews. The XX was one of our first.
ua-cam.com/video/jOeQgkJpjSU/v-deo.html
Since then we have added a Luna X2 eMTB. It appears in this video:
ua-cam.com/video/-lIT3QpkYRo/v-deo.html
That works out to about $8000 in Luna products and thousands of miles ridden. Not the answer you were hoping for? We have lots of Luna experience along with about 100 other eBikes.
-Producer Tim