Why Hip Hop Doesn't Respect Eminem Anymore
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- Опубліковано 19 січ 2023
- Across all industries, it’s natural that the most popular export is always going to catch a degree of flak from fans who misinterpret respecting success as a mark against your taste. Yet in recent years, it seems that the disdain for Eminem has gone beyond being ‘too cool’ to admit fandom and veered into disrespect. Now, hip-hop’s perception of Em has mutated to the point where he’s now as discredited as he is celebrated.
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HOT TAKE: i think Eminem doesn’t get respect beacause he’s a white rapper.
if Eminem was black, he would be respected as Kanye and Jay-Z.
You are right
No. He doesn’t get that respect because he hasn’t made a really good album in 20 years.
@MyBeautifulDarkTwistedSilentPlanet Depends. The Marshall Mathers LP is on that level, and so is The Eminem Show. Eminem also is a WAY better rapper than Kanye. They are worlds apart when it comes to that. Kanye makes better MUSIC. But remember “rap” stands for RHYME and POETRY. Eminem fits that. Kanye does not
Welp, finally some black privilege somewhere in America 😂
@@drezz8k FACTS! Last Eminem album I really liked was Recovery
If em dropped dead tomorrow you can bet every celebrity, rapper and musician in the world would be talking about how much they loved and miss him, about what an impact he had on their lives, childhood and hip hop itself. Whatever you think of him now, he's cemented. His effect and legacy are clear and long lasting.
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That's it
They always do forreal their fake as fuck
Thank you all these mfers Cap em and Wayne are forever goated
Of course. How is this related to the trash music' he is putting out?
"I used to think, that Eminem is better than me"... Hell, yeah! He was, and he still is, no matter of what else you try to convince yourself 😉😅
I used to be an em fan, big listener from relapse to mmlp2, later enjoying MtbMB but I gotta be completely real
This last year I've been branching out in hip hop and listening to folks like cole JID and greater dreamville, Kdot, jack Harlow, fuck even stuff like zel and mac, but the more I listen to other hip hop the more I realise em just isn't great, his lyricism is insane as is his diction, but his flow is stagnant, there's no soul in it at all it's all just this samey "bullets from a mag" da da da da da flow and as a result there's just no depth in his work
On the one hand I'm sad since I loved em and I feel like I've watched a hero die, but on the other I have so much better music around nowadays
@@ImMimicute Respect to your opinion, and here's mine: yes, nowadays there are some good songs and singers here and there in hip hop, but if we talk about consistency, the highs that Em reached, still are very rarely reached, especially for a white rapper. Em is probably the only one, that African-Americans accept and support in the raw of the best ones, as far as I know. And there's another thing: I was not a hip hop fan, but Em made me listen to this music for some period of time, and because of him, I enjoyed to listen to some other good hip hop performers. Some of my friends too. And we are not the only ones, as far as I read in the forums and comments. In other words, Em made many people, who don't listen to hip hop in principle, to become fans of it, because of him. 🙂
@@DorianaGray sure, you're not wrong, like I said, I got into hip hip via em, but like, consistency doesnt mean much when you have a range of 1
Also, you make a very bold claim having your original comment be "em is still better than you" when you literally only listen to em, how on earth would you know weather or not em is better than them?
@@ImMimicute In my opinion, consistency means much - many singers can shine with a good song or a good performance, but it's harder to maintain the high level for months or years. That's why I said, nowadays many singers have good songs and performances here and there, but after that they fade, for a time, or in principle. Only few can do what Em did, he managed to stay on the top for years (of course with the support of Dr Dre and some others). That defines the difference between "one hit wonders" and the top performers.
@@DorianaGray yea but em was only really as relevant as he was because he was what he called "the king of controversy". Guy essentially made a rage bait buzz feed article of himself that that kept him afloat, that part isn't talent, it's just good branding taught to him by being the only white kid in the underground
Rap has changed so much since Em's hay-day. You can get absolutely eaten alive in a diss like Killshot but that then boosts your own career. That's why the Game flip-flopped, he saw that he could profit from it.
New generations won't listen to old artists unless their style is continued. As far as rapping goes, Eminem is the most skilled, but his personaility is what made him famous. Unfortunately, Em's early 2000s antics would be cancelled if translated into modern society.
I think every one hates him now because his new music doesn’t come close to sounding as good as his early work
@@daltonvillani8341 can you blame him? His catalogue of earlier music is literally leagues above any other rapper whenit comes to influence an his new music still shits on anything these new rappers got going on an not just number wise but talent wise still nobody is touching him after 2 an a half decades you don't have to like it but you have to respect it
@@daltonvillani8341 which is an incredibly stupid reason to hate him. If that's the way it is he should have never made any music for anyone to listen to at all.
Oh they tried to Cancel him back then. The Whole FCC thing.
He is not the most skilled 😂
Em doesn’t need to do sh!t. His legacy is forever solidified.
Right
THATS WHY YOU YOUNG PUNKS ARE DISILLUSIONED.. EHO EVER SAID IT WAS ABOUT LYRICS OR SALES ??? SOMETIMES ITS JUST ABOUT MUSCI YOU CAN LISTEN TOO AND RELAX MAYBE DRINK A BEER AND COOL OUT. EMINEM IS BY FAR (CONTENT WISE) FAR FROM WHAT I WOULD EVER PLAY. EM IS WHITE OK. BUT LETS NOT FORGET. DRE ONLY PUT HIM ON BECAUSE HE LOST DEATH ROW AND EMINEM CLOWN EVERYONE...EXCEPT FOR REAL MCS AND GANGSTAS. SNOOP EVEN SAID HE WOULD SLAP SUGE KNIGHT. EM WAS SCARED TO EVEN MENTION HIS NAME ON TOY SOLIDERS. HE SOLD YALL PINK FOLK A DREAM KEEP THE WHITES AND ROBOTS AND WEIRDO OUT OF HIP HOP. THEY DONT WANT US HAVING SHIT !!!
Why shouldnt he do something though? JayZ adapted to the new wave of hiphop in a phenomenal way and still drops critically acclaimed music to this day. Why do we make excuses for Eminem dropping stale, boring and out of touch music. If you put the two in the same category, there should be no excuses for em dropping what sounds like half assed uninspired shit
@@jak_bcbeats3840 Because he doesn't give a fuck what you think. He's a 500 million dollar man. You say his music sucks now yet he outsells EVERYONE. People don't agree with you, he's one of the best and always will be. Even if he never made music again, he's a GOAT. Hate all you want, he won.
@@jak_bcbeats3840 out of touch!? He still oversold EVERYONE. 10x. Nobody comes close. Your hate fuels him...knowing you hate it, he would DO MORE of what you hate just because it makes you mad. Get it!?
Eminem is respected by the most important and biggest heads in hip hop. Those who talk shit about him are totally irrelevant people.
When Eminem show up, many rappers we now call GOATs were in their prime, and Eminem blew them all away. Today, when he is 50 years old, a man just wants to enjoy life. The era of rap in the 90s, 2000s cannot be compared to today's era. Today's rap is so soft ,it's funny. FACT: in April 2023, Eminem has the most views on YT and he is the top10 most streamed artist and top10 with most monthly listeners on Spotify. Leave the man alone..These clowns mention his name for attention.
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these wannabe rappers are all mentioning Eminem to be relevant. all nameless loosers on this vid
@random money makes the world go round and money gives YOU the money to pay for internet so your little voice can be heard here on this platform
Then I guess the entire rap community is ireavent by those logic standards
We all know they were saying he was the greatest because they had to. He can rap but he is not top 10. Gucci was right, I never used to hear him playing in the street. He's top selling because whites are the majority, same as all the likes he gets when they say he's the GOAT. If Em was black, it would have went different. Y'all wouldn't have been standing with him and we still wouldn't have been listening to 90 percent of that weird and craziness he be rapping, ain't nobody checking for that.
The problem is that Em was hungry and in pain when we were introduced to Slim Shady. The music was fueled by depression, addiction, isolation, and regret. That was him at his most raw. But now, he's grown. His family has grown. He's able to provide for those he loves. He's gone into rehab. He's gone through therapy. Expecting him to tap back into the old Em would be like asking him to invite all his demons back in so we can get a great record. It's not gonna happen. Just like Cube ain't the No Vaseline dude anymore and Nas is talking about brunch instead of ether, Em has moved into the realm of grown men with things to lose. To expect him to dredge up that old pain just so you can get the final album of your dreams is unrealistic.
I’d actually like Em to write an album about legacy, instead of resentment.
What does he want the world to learn from his life?
@@daves-c8919 he's already got like 3 tracks about his legacy
@@WAND3R101 oh really?
Can you tell me what they are? I haven’t really been following since about rehab
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Also, are they songs about legacy, or are they songs about how great of a lyricist he is?
You say that.. but Eminem’s content hasn’t really matured with him lol. He’s still immature when rapping which isn’t a bad thing but invalidates ur entire comment
At this point, Em is just doing laps for fun, side missions. He’s already won, he’s conquered the game and mastered the sport. He’s got nothing left to prove and people only disrespect him because they expect so much from him that it’s impossible to meet those standards so everything is going to be a letdown no matter how good it is.
Yea, those "laps for fun" are the pivotal cause of the current disrespect, and it's hurting his catalog. Putting Em in your top 5 oaf prior to revival was something logical and very common in the hip hop community, but after that it raises eyebrows.
@@arseeoliveira6934 If you know were honest Eminem was always disrespected this new "disrespect" is from old jealous rappers with Snoop saying Em is a product of Dr Dre is like the pot calling the kettle black.
In my opinion the only genre I'd put shady In is was Dax logic Tom Mac Donald and all those ppl he needs a break from this hate
Nah, should have quit while he was ahead...easy to say in hindsight but Em is a quantity over quality artist now and that is a shame. I never forgave him for that Trump shit though, I mean look how that worked out....Trump's gone, we have Biden fucking up everything he touches but is Em saying anything about him?? Not a Good damn word.
@@dirkdiggler5821 but you forgave jay z for his satanic and gay shit? LOL
The man is 50 something yrs old. Jayz like 55 something yrs old. Nas pushing 50.. Enjoy these GOATS and others like them while they still out here amongst us.
Yeah, hell we still got their ogs krs one, Rakim, Kane and many others. Not many genres can speak to the ones that paved the way for them.
Jay & Nas aged like wine, Em aged like milk, they’re NOT the same, Em could NEVER make a album like King’s Disease 3 at this stage of his career, hell he couldn’t make a album that good 15 years ago
@@Logic7 whoa, Idk.. Em still got it, bro tbh. I was just listening to his verses in songs like Caterpillar and Killshot... lets not forget his most recent verse ON Nas's EPMD2 last year.. I kept rewinding it.. Oh shit, and that verse he did on Logic's shit was Flawless
@@bennyhundo9131Eminem doesn’t have the maturity to make a KD3 he still thinks he has to fight with the young guys which makes him look weak tbh
@@imanigordon6803 thx you
He doesn't need to prove anything to anyone, certainly not a culture that's gone down the drain. He already earned artistic and poetic respect a long time ago.
The culture itself has never gone down the drain. In fact, it’s more alive and active than before
@@smaaron_j_46 Lol ok buddy. Nobody even has fav rappers anymore. Just what’s hot for the time being
@@highroller4203 that was 3 months ago lol I didn’t know the entire entertainment industry would go to shit 💀
@@highroller4203 my favourite rapper is cole atm but I KNOW his boy JID is gonna take the game into his hands
The industry didn't go down the drain, you just stopped listening to new shit
New rap is garbage. You name me one good song that's better than pre 2005 @@ImMimicute
Man, Eminem doesn’t need to prove to anyone ANYTHING.
Everyone knows that there will never be another Eminem.
The fact that people are still talking about him today, speaks for itself
The narrator in this video even talks like him.
It's like people who comment about how they don't like a certain channel, you on the damn channel and helping that algorithm idiot
@@christopherstein2024 brooo i can’t unhear it now
word!
@@christopherstein2024😂😂😂😂😂😂
It's strange how Em has no problem with anybody and just minds his own business, but so many ppl still tryna disrespect him
Are you serious? He literally starts shit with tons of people all the time, the weaker the better for him.
@gogetta80 alot of people are ass, they deserve it lmfao
When you are the most successful one and you got worldwide respect, Failures will always try to bring you down. they'll do everything they can to do that.
Eminem has no problem with anybody?
@@Gogetta80 what people are you referring to exactly? only time eminem starts shit with other rappers are when they start shit in the first place. If you are talking about his early days when he name dropped popstars and members of boy/girl bands he wasnt shitting on a person personally he was shitting on the genre as a whole and used names to fit rhyme schemes.
And yes when he shits on rappers they are generally weaker because hes far better than 99% of rappers out here lol
We should give him flowers while he's still with us. Eminem always be my No.1 and his legacy will live on forever.
Em is not to be played in happy days.His music is for the ones who are struggling and falling apart.His 70% music will motivate you like no other.And if an artist can do that, he's timeless.
You mean white boys falling apart
White trash party go hard at the backyard boogie fosho tho
I was thinking about this earlier today, if Eminem never existed, the hip hop we have today, we would not have. The hip hop of the last 12 years wouldn't be here, Eminem influenced so many artists it's insane.
Not sure if that’s a compliment because most rap these days sucks
So if he not existed no one of these mumble rapper wouldn't too? That would be a wonderfull world
@@si8723Eminem doesn’t mumble though, that’s not at all what he’s saying
@@tonicsmily4513 i changed my mind since that comment and i think Em has nothing to do with the influence of nowdays mumble rappers
The bottom line is that nobody respects lyricism anymore. Em comes from an era where rappers battled. Rappers don't battle anymore. So anytime he goes at anyone, he's just seen as out of touch and corny. I will always be an Eminem fan and appreciate that he's a student of legends that came before him, which is becoming increasingly rare today and that he's STILL trying to improve even at almost 50. His dedication to hip hop is unmatched.
No they still do that today. You have too not listen rap that much too come up with you're conclusion most rappers wear their influences on their sleeves and give props too legends before him
It's just that Eminem isn't influencing anyone that rap game respects. He partially influenced Kendrick, him and nas we're influence on j.cole but j.cole has gone on record quite literally and said nas influenced him more
Eminem is influencing people like Tom McDonald, NF, token. People who EMS own diss against benzino would apply "real lyricist don't like or respect you period" majority of his fanbase are people who don't listen too rap. There's a lot of factors
@aaadddggg4 There are plenty of artists that used to claim Em as an influence. It's just not as cool as it once was. Plus, there are plenty of old rappers that nobody claims anymore, but they still belong as legends
This is an underrated comment, and something I wish the video touched on but didn’t. The fact that Drake can call himself the 🐐 and the general public wouldn’t dispute it all that much should probably say all it needs to.
He's top 10 on Spotify. Somebody is playing him in the car...a lot.
Facts... that's me lmao
Yeah, white people and asians
Lol we all know “whose” listening to him 😂 👨🏻👨🏼🦱🧔🏼♂️👨🏼🦲
@@Countmacula666 who?
@@Countmacula666 who? A bunch of emojis?
The wildest part about Em is that any serious critique you have of him he probably already addressed in multiple bars dating all the way back to his earliest music
right and it just goes over everyone heads lol
So why isn’t he talking about how his beats are garbage and he can’t stop projecting hatred
@@daltonvillani8341 Couldn't be more true. His beats are some of the worst and his current flow pisses me off. Listen to something like Deja Vu then come back and listen to Alfred's Theme
@@daltonvillani8341lmao why listen then
@@skythundersky1544My guy Alfred's theme is so good tho. The flow, the bars, the beat might be a bit wierd but it's a banger
You can't please everyone forever. I still love Em's music. People just like being critical just because.
People are being critical because his last few albums are a major disappointment and his early work was amazing. That’s all there is to it
@@daltonvillani8341 Maybe, but in my experience, people usually have weird reasons for their criticisms.
@@daltonvillani8341dunno man, mtbmb was an amazing album
@@daltonvillani8341I don't know man I think kamikaze and mtbmb are really good. Fuck it I even think revival is decent if not good
Em is stuck in a “Damned if you do, damned if you don’t” limbo. There are worse places to be when you’re one of the most successful artists of all time with a beloved back catalogue, but as a songwriter it’s hard to think that you can’t just write something without it being vehemently dissected. And towards these criticisms you’re either getting hounded at for being a pushover if you don’t retaliate, or you get labeled bitter and sensitive if you do.
There’s no winning for em at this point, but what does that matter when he’s won so much already?
AMEN. THIS is the correct response, & would have been a much better, much more honest video. But whatever, people are allowed to have bad takes. And make little videos about Shady for clout
I agree, well said! I feel at this point, Em is so technical with his rhymes, that it flies over a lot of our heads. And he admits, he has an addictive personality, so he replaced his drug habit with making these amazing technical rhymes. That's his addiction now.
And unfortunately, those kinds of songs won't see much radio or club play. I personally loved Em during the Bennzino and early 50 Cent days, that was my favorite version of Em. But as a true fan and recovering addict, I'm very happy for Em and where he is now in life. If I have to listen to technical Em, but know he's sober, I'm good with that.
Considering where 50 and Em both are in there lives, I'd love to see a collab album. They both done care about numbers no more, so it would be dope to hear, but problem is we will never get hungry 50 cent ever again. Go back and listen to Power of a Dollar and you'll know what I mean.
Beloved back catalog???? Eminem has 3 or 4 well received albums in the culture in the entirety of his career the culture has not vibed with an Eminem album in almost 20 years.
^^^ I mean ….. let’s keep it a buck. No one cares if Lil Tee Tee from “da hood” likes Em. If the culture consists of rappers like ‘Gucci Thug & Migos’ well damn. That culture fken sucks
He's the one who starting Godifying himself in Black Culture.. Putting This extra pressure on himself.. Making songs like Rap God insinuating he's The King.. And throwing red meat to his Stans who possess biases themselves, and can't see the culture except thru him..
The Game and Joe Budden are the last rappers that should comment on Ems career or talent.
Facts
Exactly m8t 👍🏾
Exactly, this is the wackest shit I've ever seen. He set out what he meant to, get clicks. But I'll UNSUB for this
I know right
Why TF should I care about 2 blood sucking rappers aiming for money opinion at the end of the day?
I think the thing that changed is the public's reaction. B4 when you lost to em, you were gone for GOOD. but now it's like you get a free shoutout from a superstar (wether you win or not doesn't matter). That's why people go on their way to poke at him every chance they get.
People disrespecting Eminem are irrelevant
I think that Em now does rap mostly for himself, not for critics, not for anyone, he's just havin fun with wordplays, double-entendres and complicated rhyme schemes. That's probably why he's more concentrated on rhymes and wordplay cause that's what he finds important and good in rap
You're not having fun with it if you're chasing hit records the whole time and getting super mad when people don't like it.
@@jalazel6447 I see your point with that, but I was mostly talking about his work from Music To Be Murdered By and on, cause It can be seen in the increase of double entendres, and more complicated rhyme schemes
@@_seferovich It just kinda sounded like he was over complicating things to compensate for the lack of content.
@@jalazel6447 I mean there's a big chance that he doesn't have nothing else to say after 25 years and that he just loves the craft so that's why he isn't retiring yet
@@_seferovich You say it's for the love of the craft, I say it's bc he's bored and has nothing else going. Agree to disagree.
I think it's just the times we're in where disrespecting legends is just the case.
Spot on
After the 1st 3 albums his albums got worse and worse
Yeah he’s a legend.. but if we’re talking about his music currently - I wouldn’t call him the best rapper anymore.. Kendrick, Cole, Kanye and Tyler are all better artists than Em.. sure Em’s a better rapper than most - but his projects can’t touch a project like TPAB or MBDTF
@@AUGUSTBURNSDOOMthat thing you call lyrical miracle is em at All it just what happened when people try to copy him and don’t understand what he’s saying em is the best rhyme and lyrically as he’s ever Been my his music is bad but can’t say that about him not far to what he actually does
@@firstlast9846see I respect this stand on em respect of his lyrical abilities just don’t like the music thank you for having a brain
No, he's deff still respected. He's just old. He's 50. Rap is a young man's game. Tupac & Biggie both died young so they're forever immortalized as young artists but if they were alive today, it would be the same thing. Gen Z wanna listen to guys their own age (which I respect) however that doesn't discredit Eminem or his legacy. And guys like The Game are just tryna clout chase. 💯
It's funny how everyone only started talking shit about him when they felt safe from retaliation, that says everything right there.
Ummm no.. in recent years he’s strayed further from what people initially enjoyed and the rabid Em fans go crazy over any criticism
@@firstlast9846 no he didn't he just not as angry anymore he's just making music cause he loves I personally like it but if you don't that's cool different strokes for different folks
@@nottodayimbusy7146 i feel like the problem also is when he came out hiphop was still new... not new new but new and he was so different than everyone else. Counter Culure basically. Like how all the rappers now that ppl like are the drill rappers because they literally rapping about real life situations that most ppl will never go thur in their lifes. It's counter to all the fake cappin rap of the last 20 years. Watch in like 5 years noone gonna wanna hear drill anymore. Things and styles just get boring and for em i think it was just that also.
Did you forget about Encore?
@@firstlast9846 Facts. Eminem's music since 04 has been decent to forgettable. Not to mention a lot of his older material didn't age well. His fans can get mad, but all criticism is not hate.
Em will always be a hip hop legend, it was almost impossible to be a respected white rapper in the 90's, he wasnt an industry plant his underground freestyles were undeniable, he battled his way to his deal and EARNED his respect, not sure why the disrespect especially from todays rappers who have little to no lyrical skill at all
Eminem doesn't even have lyrical skills anymore bro does double entendres sometimes triple with the same flow everytime and thinks that sounds good it's some dr.suess shit really
@@MIICAH2 You really just said Eminem copies one flow in his songs. Yet he did 9 different flows on The Ringer. You really are clueless as fuck. He raps on a level that is unmatched and can't be replicated by any living artist. His lyricism reached a point where it's so good that it sounds underwhelming. Name a rapper, nowadays, with that much lyrical skill.
@@MIICAH2 respectfully as possible you haven’t been listening to his shit or it’s just going over your head. He has put some whack shit out in the recent years but he still has crazy bars. Just gotta pay a little more attention, lyrics always help with Em.
"It was almost impossible to be a respected white rapper in the 90s"? Not if you weren't someone corny like Vanilla Ice. The Beasty Boys and House of Pain were respected just fine.
Not to mention when people diss him they act like his big 3 albums are his only great work like bad meets evil and recovery aren’t great and imo relapse
Lose Yourself is the workout anthem and played everyday on every radio station
When you get played on every radio station whether it's Rock or hip-hop or top 40s you're a king and anyone that thinks otherwise is lying
it’s funny how back when he was extremely famous with Slim Shady, people hated for being to aggressive, and now when he is not focus on the angry and hatred anymore people start recalling Slim Shady. The point is , hiphop is always changing, there are new rapper, new trends, new tastes, it’s okay if he changes his music to be relevant with the public, but it’s still okay if he wants to stick with what he is doing, which is focusing on lyrics and skill, idk if people really listen to his new stuffs, but for me they’re not bad, still pretty great, since i like lyrical rap, if you are not into that, instead prefer to more chill songs with catchy hooks and simple lyrics, then that’s fine too
The problem is not Eminem
The problem is the people who don't want to accept the fact that he grew up and when people grow up their point of view in life starts to be deeper and more mature
And as you get older you start focusing on other stuff things you really want to do
And if you wanna continue with career you do it because you love what you're doing not because you have to do it
fr fr ,bro is 50 years old and they only expect sslp mmlp from him or that old shady,and even if he does that or tried to do that or if he would ve been like that people would say it s weird and cringe ,like they simply can t accept anything
@@spiridonrobert16 that's sad
@@husseindarwish exactly,personally i enjoy both old and modern em their both special in their way (being catchy or technical he has songs about everything)i love even some of his fast verses ,this man helped me to get better and throught tought times and i will respect him till i die tbh
@@spiridonrobert16 he's still doing it cas he wonna do it at this point he don't need to prove nothing
You either enjoy the music or just don't listen it's that simple
In the end, music is a taste and may not be liked by everyone, and frankly, it is impossible to satisfy the audience no matter what you do
@@husseindarwish exactly ye i listen to em ,he s having fun his legacy in status in hip hop is legendary whatever people feel about him,let s not forget how critics always try to change the narrative at first even sslp mmlp tes got mixed reviews but with time passed and em dropping more albums critics fans sy those we re the greatest,they liked em only cause it was trendy ( he still is)they been platic fans relapse they hated that at first now it s considered an underground classic and on and on
It’s because people expect Eminem to stay the same after 25 years
That's the problem with this, even though Eminem is a famous artist, he's still a person and people change all the fucking time, which will change his look on the industry.
This comment is very true, and something I have a hard time accepting.
Kanye,Jay z,k dot,nas,Andre 3k have been good for years but em has only been good for 4 years em is mad overrated
exactly. ive seen 10 times in the comments already how great he was on the 1st 3 albums and now he's trash. cant rap about mom and kim forever guys.
its strange, when i listen to the 1st 3 now i realize how technically flawed they were and how sharp he is now.
i remember back then they all said "all he does is rap about white people shit." now "he was so great back then but not now." truth is, they just want him to go away.
@@markmac2206 lol i feel you, but the first 3 are technically amazing too
Man! The comments did not disappoint!!
“There is no room for hate in a world full of love!” ❤ Kanye
He had 3 good albums, being original and telling stories. Then he started to make awful unoriginal pop rap songs, then just rapping fast but saying nothing. Still to this day.
There's still some gold in the mine-tailings. "Like Toy Soldiers", "I Need A Doctor", "Mockingbird", "Bad Guy"
@@zimriel for sure.
3 good albums?
Way more than that
Relapse, sslp, mmlp, mmlp2 , tes, recovery and so on..
@@nishitbhaskar 2 actually
Em said it right , back when he became famous, everybody needed to be unique and show a different level of talent in order to survive, nowadays if you dont sound like something others sound like , you wont be liked, Eminem is and always be a legend, he was never a trend which would end in few years, his legacy is immortal
And thats the reason why today rappers are forgotten fast and replaced even faster
I don't agree with you. For example, Hov's 4:44 sounds differently than other popular rap, but everybody liked that album. The problem with Revival is not that it sounds differently, the problem is with the quality of music on that album
Jpegmafia
With his randomness
Tyler with genre switch
He's a corny white rapper who wouldn't have the success he enjoys had he not been born white.
That's just facts.
Completely untrue and out of touch cope from Eminem. Artists like jpegmafia and clipping have carved out a niche and diehard fan base for themselves while dropping off the wall weird shit.
Em a legend for better or worse. I don’t rock with his music like I did when I was a teenager but you can’t deny from 99-03 he was that dude.
*97-03
Thats it right there he sound good to teenagers, he was a rapper with a great flow on beats and he had shock value nothing more
Cuz he was WITh DRE! Once he left Dre he tanked hard
@@sickathanyouraverage4404 nah not 'nothing more' The dude has wordplay, a storyteller rapper, he's more of lyrical genius than Kanye for example
@@sickathanyouraverage4404 yeah u trippin his first 3 albums was some of the best shit I've ever heard
All them black guys pretending not to listen to Em, I bet they grew up bumping his tracks, thus, getting influenced without even knowing it. Little Stans.
Hurts that the white boy out sold, out rapped, and out classes all the other rappers, huh? Even Snoop fell back in line so he could keep making interviews 😢
I find it strange that people try to bash him for being a mature grown man. He is fucking 50 now. He didn’t fall off he just changed like every human does.
People basically forced him to get angry again and the second he was a little bit like the old shady people thought he went too far.
I think it mostly has to do with envy that he can leave for years not say a single word and then out of nowhere drop an album that goes number 1.
The soft ass modern world can't stomach slim shady lol
people don't bash him for changing they bash him for making trash music. No one would care about anything he says or does if the music was actually good.
The problem is that he isn’t matured!! He hasn’t grown or evolved at all, just sounding more constipated with every new verse lmao
Nah lol Jay z and Nas are 50+ and dropping good verses/ projects. The cultures proud of them. Mind you, Nas similarly had a bad album streak but he broke out of that hole
@@austinlittle4576 only revival is debatable as bad ,and even that has his good songs and points so lol
Eminem gets respect, the biggest artists from this genre have given him props and declared that they have been influenced by him. It’s just that his level of fame, controversy , and the fact that he’s white makes him an easy target.
Being a white rapper at a time when that was almost unheard of, was partly why he blew up as he did. Yo stans are crazy, talking about being white. Stfu
they just want clout for most of them cause em was and always will be relevant ,,they say nobody listen to him and that he is irelevant just to see how he breaks the charts
@@njhovo_ ye they we re not taken seriously but not only cause he is white,talent controversy also helped him to push more,at that time everybody tried to cancel him get rid of him cause of his lyrics and they made him bigger
@@njhovo_ yeah that’s why he blew up but don’t sit here and act like he doesn’t get discredited for literally being white. People say he’s not apart of the culture because he’s white. So stfu. Also it’s not like he blew up just bc he was white. He could actually spit unlike all those other white rappers before him
Stop with this he's white shit
You look at Spotify, over 60 million people listen to Eminem, and even more on every platform. So he has a bad album for some people? You can’t expect someone who’s grown over a 20 year period to stay young forever, it would be weird if Eminem in his 40’s and 50’s still used the same style he had in 2000. He had a huge drug problem, lots of family issues, and dealt with personal dilemmas. None of these guys would say this shit to Eminem in person, and I’m sure he cares more about his family than anything else.
how tf snoop got the balls to credits em's success to dre like people even knew his name b4 he signed w death row?
I’ll be an Eminem fan until the day I die. He’ll always have my respect
What if he turned out to be a racist?
I would not put that on your grave but hey if you like it I love it
@@BoatPatrol you better be talking to the original commenter because you say that as if you're some well-established figure that just appeared in my presence. go find somthing safe to do
Sounds about whyt
Meat riding much?
He is the most listened, viewed hip hop artist for the last 25 years, how it is possible to set a title "Hip Hop Doesn't Respect Eminem Anymore". Eminem is the hip hop
because a lot of eminem fans aren’t even hip hop fans. like most of em just listen to eminem and 50 cent. most hip hop fans don’t listen to em either.
@@fshhh Thats a damn lie, if you a fan of bars, you down with Shady. Almost every lyrical rapper ever has given em his flowers.
@@fshhh Thats some real BS!
@@fshhhfacts gods chosen don’t rock with Eminem like that he can rhyme well but he overrated his best album is the recovery.
He said it himself now people hate u if u arent like everyone else.
Also they acting like him not destroying peoples careers is somehow bad. He mellowed out and is not vindictive towards his critics. That's good. It says more that a dude firing shots as his daughter trying to bring the worst out in him. They act like him not being a dick is somehow bad.
These mfs know that they can never achieve or even come close to the success or legacy Em has
Em was IT until IT changed. Happens to everyone in music. He has no reason to appeal to younger generations with new material, his old stuff speaks for itself. Most lose their aility to create great songs at an older age and that is fine. You don't have the same hunger or message.
I think people need to remember that Eminem doesn't even need to make music anymore if he wanted to. The guy is already filthy rich and set for the rest of his life. He still makes music because he loves music. He loves rap. He loves hip-hop. I honestly don't think there is any music artist out there who loves the game more than him. While people are out here trying to "diss" or "call out" Eminem, he doesn't respond to the drama in words, but with lyrics, and he will always come out on top.
Fr he is the goat 🐐
Its cool that he loves hip hop that much but it would be cooler if he made good music
Paul McCartney is 80+ still making ALBUMS … he’s the richest person in music … he also is the number 1 when it comes to albums sold .. I don’t listen to rap anymore it’s corny & played out .. I don’t want to listen to what everyone in my generation listens to I wanna be different.. it’s corny I wanna hear real music real instruments real melody .. listen to old rock .. RAP IS OVER
He shoulda taken a leaf from Andre 3000s book. No one will ever question his legacy, because he quit while he was ahead. Music often captures a moment in time for an artist - and that moment we are getting right now is a rich and bitter old man with nothing much to say.
@@ftb282 Andre always said that he wouldn't be a 40 year old rapper. Even during OutKast peak he would say it. On the thing he failed was that he said he would always keep making music. Clearly for some reason that didn't happen.
iam in india's deep corner and we play Eminem all day..... Not just us the whole state does.
He has a total different kind of respect that the western contries have no idea about..!
Eminem WAS born in a Western country. He was born in DETROIT, in the UNITED STATES. If it wasn’t for Eminem, you probably wouldn’t have had Emiway or KRSNA.
@@Unicysiswell, they are not that great either. Trash lyrics and voice box like a sick lizard
lol
agreed. Indian here too. Eminem is probably far ahead of any other rapper ever .
Agreed dude introduced most of us into the hiphop genre
Everyone shi talk him yet no one can touch him.
Love how all these washed out rappers who have not made content in years talking shit on em. Most of these folks sold out and went full balls deep corporate years ago and half the use ghost writers.
OGs still respect Em.
Naw
@@arizonaFIREent delusional
@@arizonaFIREent u just mad you not em but everyone calls you him lol
Except Lord Jamar lmao
@@andyrsonx2182 L Jamar ain't no OG, he just a clown with one good verse who has been around for years.
His biggest problem is that ever since Rap God, he’s relied too much on the lyrical miracle stuff and proving he has great technical abilities instead of making music that’s enjoyable to listen to. He’s one of the GOATs, but he’s still desperate to try and prove that instead of just having fun
THIS is what people are missing! People forget what real hip hop is all about! It's not about the technicality. There is nothing wrong with being technical, but if you compare Em to Aesop rock for example, Aes is not just technical, he has soul!
Drake has fun with his music And y’all don’t even respect him
So the problem is, after rapping for like over a decade, he’s enjoying himself?
Was always a fan but that lyrical miracle shit is played out. I just like it when he makes shit people can vibe to, not some shit reactors and Stans tell you “you gotta read the lyrics to understand it!”
I can’t stand the lyrical miracle stuff… that Trump freestyle years ago was atrocious and was the first time I couldn’t take him serious and found him corny
Saying people don’t respect em is like saying the sun won’t rise tomorrow
You’re just wrong
These rappers didn't have the balls to face Em when they were in their prime of their careers. But now, since they have nothing to lose and everything to gain from the clout, they're disrespecting him.
I dont think it even matters if people dont respect him anymore, the point is he already has a strong legacy and is widely considered iconic, i dont even listen to rap that much and i consider him an icon. He literally has nohing more to prove, it shouldnt matter whatever ppl say about him now🤦
I've always said that Em actually pays too much attention to his fanbase. That's a breath of fresh air in hip hop but it's too extreme. Like relapse was what he wanted to do but then it got huge backlash for the accents and it was considered too much rap so he slowed it down on Recovery with his normal voice and pop hooks to make it more globally accessible. Then his fans complained about missing the old Em and not the new serious Em so he did MMLP 2 ( actually a very good album) but again that was him doing what the fans wanted more than what he really wanted then people complained about Em not being political enough so he does revival Everyone hates it and says he should just go back to straight rapping in comes kamikaze but then they complained that kamikaze was too rap rappy so he did MTBMB that has both the mainstream stuff and the heavy rap stuff
He should just lock himself in the studio and really do the album HE wants to do. I kinda feel like that's what he did on side B a little bit but he should do it all the way. Killshot that was Em totally wanting to do that his way which is why it felt much better than most of his other stuff around that time. I remember Tyler the creator saying that about Em too. That he was paying too much attention to his fans. You have the biggest fanbase on the face of the earth you're not going to be able to please them all.
So what do you suggest then?
@@jayc5756 That he makes music for him first. I'm sure if he does an album doing what he feels on every track he could easily have another classic in him. Darkness was one of the few recent songs that's really him A to Z and again many said it was the best song he did in years.
Mmlp2 was not a good album hahah I’m a huge Em fan but it’s his second worst album behind encore.
@@dtmfool789 If you think the album that had Bad guy Evil twin. Legacy. Groundhog day and rap god is worse than Recovery revival and even kamikaze. You're funny
So accurate lol
The issue I have with Rap is the fact that it's more of a social thing. It's always moving forward, and you can never go back to the old days without looking corny yourself. It became the one thing it tried to avoid, and that is become pop culture itself. I remember Snoop Dogg was going on Twitter asking the rap community why don't old rappers get respect unlike in rock where older musicians still get the praise and recognition. Like you can listen to Jimi Hendrix, appreciate how much he pioneered the hard rock sound and people are gonna look at you in a good way. The same can't be said with any old rapper who pioneered a style.
False
@@jameztheartist3893 explain?
@@vDeadbolt people love old school rap, soul, rnb, and pretty much everything else. You can see it in modern rap music with the sampling of course
@@jameztheartist3893 I get clowned on for saying that MF doom is one of my favorite rappers.
Mainstream rap is a social genre. Otherwise a ton of rappers would be out of a job.
@@vDeadbolt all depends on the crowd your around
It's ridiculous that things have turned this way. Eminem is, objectively, an astonishing rapper. I enjoy writing out and studying the lyrics of rappers and then seeing how they use sounds, slant rhymes, allusions, assonance, consonance, etc to formulate poetic stories.
Eminem is consistently amazing. I personally think he is getting better with age. His production isn't always memorable but his lyrics and flow is.
Hating on him is hating on the craft. If you're gonna do it, I will listen but I want a real, sensible reason that has to do with his ability itself and not his "place in the culture".
No fucking way I would look at Willie Mays and say "He's ok but he's a guest in the house of baseball" just because he didn't match skin color of the games inventors. He deserves to be in every conversation about the GOAT. So does Em. And I think, deep down, everybody knows it.
well said
You have shitty taste 😂
Eminem is legend
Just wondering if any of these people trashing him are already in or even have a snowballs chance in hell at being in the Rock N Roll hall of fame. An accolade that not just any rapper can accomplish. History. Best selling. Top tier in his prime.
The only bar that he has to surpass he has set himself.
Hes already accomplished so much why does he need to prove anything else to anyone? Give the man his roses.
Andre 3000 said it best. Hip Hop means hip. too many people fuck up their careers by carrying on past the right point
They all wanna use his name for clout. Everyone. The only time benzinos relevant for one day is if he mentions em. But he had to stop so his daughter's rap career wont be tarnished. The game made the absolute worst diss track in history hoping he'd piss off the goat and make some fast cash, but it didnt work and now hes bitter. Say what you say, wont change shit.
Hip hop itself, is a former shell of itself, including the fans it appeals to. Although there are still rappers out here still holding the torch, most of them do it out of their own love for it.
You a old head 🤔
@@TheFictionalRealmofJamal1017 I'm 30. So I haven't been alive as long as hip-hop has, but I've had enough of an appreciation for it to go back in time before mine and appreciate the evolution of it. 🤷
@@DadeHudson93 true
I am 46 and all I have to say is.... well said!
The Core of Hip-hop hasn't changed much, it grew, there's more Rappers than ever, and more diverse audiences.
Em grew up... he made his mark...no one can take his legacy or say he doesn't have it because even if you don't like Eminem once he drops a song does a collab or takes a dump in a public restroom everyone will still be playing his shit when it drops
Who everyone? This video is clearly showing a certain important audience isn't fxking with Eminem anymore.
@@jalazel6447 "Who everyone?" - DUH, of course not everyone, in the same breathe, not everyone doesn't respect eminem
the "certain important audience" you're mentioning is NOT really that important in the grand scheme of things
@@digitalian99 I guess from you're point of view, it doesn't really matter if the culture fw Em bc he'll go platinum with or without Hip-Hops acceptance. If u don't find the core hip-hop audience (the real gatekeepers) then fine, no debate.
When they tell the story of Hip-hop, Eminem's later career isn't even going to be mentioned, and that's important to ur mans.
HOT TAKE : They just hate his beard
I'd say he's still respected, just not as respected.
cause people only want the old slim,this gen can t take that slim lmao they are soft nowadays
Em still has plenty of love from greats like Rakim, Nas, Kool G Rap, Jadakiss, Styles P, Sheek Louch, Jay Z, 50 Cent, Kanye West, Dr Dre, Ras Kass, Kurupt, DMX while he was alive, Ludacris, Redman, TI, KRS One, And lots of other people within Hip Hop today yeah.
Add Lil Wayne to that list.
Kendrick, Drake, and J. Cole too. The artist who dropped the greatest rap album of all time, the most popular artist, and the most underappreciated artist of all time.
Dude.....the evidence to back up the argument in this video is trash
The list of rappers that respect EM are literally gods in the tab game but a 17 year old would swear they are trash cause they don’t talk about oops and dropping shit on sight, also not to mention the game has not made a relevant track since the one he did with drake because Drake was in it lol
Nah KRS hates white people and Jay Z was mad Eminem got to do the halftime show. Wouldn't be surprised if Nas hates Eminem too given his affinity for the NoI
A lot of black rappers will diah hate on him because he is a white man that made it huge in a black dominate industry. But theres still honeslty A LOT of black rappers still love him and ALWAYS WILL!!!!!!
I love to hear these dudes bitching about Em.... one point, just one.
Produce one record, one song, one second that comes close to what he has done.just sayin
I feel it is his wisdom now. He got older, he had being living life in a way that he never had. Now, he gets to reflect about his life, his actions and mistakes and the feelings he hurt. At the end, we are all human, and we can all go back and see how uncontrolled we were. Eminem was a beast because he was anger, and he fueled from that. Now, he is wise and now he doesn't need to shelter there anymore, for he has...grown up. That is why he doesn't answer everyone anymore, besides, he is smart and does other things. It is a coming of age story truly if we think about it. He doesn't have to retire because maybe he may sometimes want to spit some bars, express himself or spread a message, but we can say that he won't be the same anymore.
Honestly, all I see is Eminem grow up because it makes sense when he was in his 20s early 30s or even his 30s in general it out for him to be angry and all that so now this is ruined way releasing his anger but he wouldn’t say need to realize he grew up with a game when he was acting like that I always thought of him being a coward and a child at the game. Tammie was acting when he was on there making those statements I’m like you’re just being a child and you know you’re a coward because you’re his face is not in there saying shit on TV like a coward yeah you see when you guys are younger doing that what you were doing like even Eminem but I think him and him just grow up. You know he’s not angry like he used to be and now he just ignores the people that will sit there and talk shit because you know there’s no point anymore. It really isn’t. He’s being a better person and the bigger man and that’s how I see it I see my better person. I still loves music or whatever and I’ll still support him now unless I really takes a while but I think of it at the other day long she’ll talk about his kids. I don’t think he cares what people say about him.
Couldn't have sum it up better. Makes me really happy that there are people who actually understand the way of life ❤ Em have contributed more to hip hop then any other artist have.
He is great
The wisdom of raising a thot 😅
it’s cuz his songs are ass now
He was just inducted into the rock n roll hall of fame....
He's the GOAT.
wheres the rock n roll songs?
@@sum1ne0ya got me crying😂😂😂
Bruh why are rappers getting inducted in rock n roll. Make a new one for hip-hop bruh
@@shaunsensei6948 I know it's crazy
Jayz was too
Idk much about rap music until i heard Em's songs when i was like in middle school and found out more about hip hop, but other than snoop i dont recognize anyone else mentioned in this video, i think this explain why Em is a legend 🙂 Oh im all the way from indonesia.
"Is it because you love me that y'all expect so much of me?" - Marshall Mathers, From The Marshal Mathers LP
He spoke to a generation of misfits fight back against censorship, the problem is those misfits have become mainstream so theres nothing to fight against but the masculinity eminem was respected for.
It's crazy cause back in the day when I was kid when Em was in his prime I never looked at his skin color but was aware of the hate he received. I just loved his music. I never put a color on music. Bro came with the crazy heat back in the day. I'm 27 years old and I will always have respect for Em and all the OGs who paved the way for the new generations. He's solidified, appreciate him while he still here cause there won't be another Em
Eminem was like my top 5 for the longest time growing up. Ngl I wanted him to be black lol but his music was cold.
Yea well that was before a BLM and Trump. Now everyone is defined by thier sex, race and political stance .
Trump is a voice for poor white folks, Eminem going against Trump made him seem not only desperate for the approval of the black community but disrespectful towards his own past and upbringing
I feel the same way man, but his new shit is wack, slim shady is gone
@@C-64that diss he just dropped on Melly Mel and Gen Z might suggest otherwise. I’ll let you decide that for yourself though.
@@C-64if he was singing "if this chick was my mother id still fuck her" at 50 years old you would call him crazy and hate on him
What I'm not playing in my car is mumble rap or sampled beats with boring lyrics
Why are all these "gangsters" sitting down with their cups of coffee gossiping about the people who they dont like. What happened to just making art for people to appreciate it. Hip-hop is supposed to be about expression of ones thoughts in a clever and lyrical way.
For me I liked Em when he used to tell stories and not just put long ass words back to back like he doe's now.
Ok
have you ever listened to "darkness"?
Have you listened to his new albums? There are plenty of songs like that on them
@@greenbird3269 of course they dont. They just repeat what other people say online
@@SoldJesus4Crack yeah that’s a good one. I still like his newer stuff but his first run (MMLP - 2006) won’t be topped
Ok so What’s crazy is that EMINEM is succeeding in every single way AFTER Revival, his numbers in the streaming Era (In which he ain’t a part of btw), his music still going viral within the Youth in apps like TikTok. Being induced in the Hall of Fame and Performing in the SuperBowl. When it comes to beef, thing is Eminem has ALWAYS respected others first, people like budden and the game are examples of old men… especially the game, who was so very desperate to get a response from him. Also budden was wrong, Eminem was referring to “Forever” not renegade. People forget Mgk made comments about his underage daughter and started dissing Eminem first. And if we watch his history when it comes to actual rap beefs, it’s other rappers that say something first. Not him.
Now when it comes credibility in rap, while Revival was a L as he said it himself, tho it had many great heartfelt personal songs but pretty much his Stans have come back when Kamikaze dropped and MTBMB. To the point many are so very much intrigued what his next album is going to be because it seems he’s fully motivated and serious about trying to push his pen to the next level in terms of being a GOATED Writer that nobody can ever replicate. He’s dealt with critics his whole life, but it says a lot about how Eminem now is at a point where when he finally acknowledged Fantano lol he basically said “oh yeah he always gives me bad grades” to his Shady Records artists Westside Boogie for reassurance. Compare that response to someone like drake who actually got offended and even texted dude for the bad rating💀 Eminem now is Fully comfortable with his art.
Eminem is such an interesting artist because you think after all the memes (he’s always mocked himself) hate, dis-credibility by every person imaginable. The man is Still not giving up and is proving everyone wrong.
I do believe Hip-Hop will miss him dearly if he were to go away, especially after all the good things he’s done personally for the genre.
Regardless He himself likes a little bit of a challenge anyways and he’ll stop on his own accord. + the man who’s 50 now mind you still dropping bangers :))
mgk literally made that comment about her saying ,,hot as fuck ,,when she was 16 years old and we know how em feels about that,and then subliminally dissed him he really tried to be the victim and acted like not alike came outta nowhere ,just lol:))game is a bipolar clown he does the same with dre and 50 respect them then talk shit about them and ye revival might not be his best work but has his good songs (arose castle bad husband )framed offended a little bit of slim,and ye people tried to cancel em since day 1 ,lmao drake did that eminem doesn t stay too much on the internet but he still sees everything and watch trends nowadays but before he wasn t an internet person he even said he doesn t know to use it,and abous disses what can you say about a man that mocked himself a lot dissed his own momma ex wite,what the fuck is gonna say about you?lol
Maybe its a hot take, but after LP2, Em's work started wildly fluctuating in quality.
He still had Bangers here and there, like Venom, Headlights, and Godzilla in particular, but when you're a controversial dude like Em, people tend to focus on the negative more, so him dropping stuff like Tone Deaf was fuel for the fire.
Don't Say That EM has Destroyed The HiPHop
We Will Love Him No Matter What He's Doing
The Greatest Rapper Of All The Time
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Nobody would even recall all that Eminem's haters names in 10 years lol. Eminem is a straight up legend. The one and only
This is really true. Even though he changed his artistry he still rose so much higher than anyone else.
*Lol all I’ve seen is just a bunch of has-beens and losers hating on Eminem 💀*
Yesterday when i told a guy that I listen so much to eminem he started shits like i m a 8 year old kid who trying to enter hip hop world and How Eminem’s only 3 albums were successful which were sslp2, mmlp2 and Show. He told me i should expand my taste in other rappers and was talking shits. I hate people who judges other
Im not gonna take anything away from Eminems Legacy but even tho he evolved lyrically, he lost it on anything else, nowadays he sounds cramped and his robot flow + delivery is ass, im just not feeling him anymore. I like his old stuff for sure but todays Eminem is really something i can’t and don’t wanna listen to.
For example, KGR is in the game since the 80s and he still raps, but he still got the delivery, the beats, bars and he brings a good vibe to his joints, can’t say the same for Eminem
There are people who disrespect him, but when greats like Rakim, Nas, Jay, Kendrick, 50, Tech and countless more, are praising his greatness, who really cares about the haters? It's okay not to like his music, that's fine not everything is for everyone. But you can't blatantly lie and say no one listens to him, or that he is irrelevant, when some of the biggest and best newer rappers have said time and time again that he has inspired them.
okay bro so you listening to Rakim really, you bumping tech really you stans are hilarious
@@sixeladadon Yall kill me with this "nobody is bumping [Insert artist here]". Do you know how weak of an argument that is? No artists' music stays hot forever. It's about the mark they leave during their career. Tech and especially Rakim have _been_ solidified and are respected by their peers.
It's never about how Eminem is performing as a rapper.
If you listen to rappers who hate on him i guarantee you that they all say something like "he doesn't deserve where he stands, I should be the one there" and it all stems from either him being white or them being nobodies.
Eminem has always been driven by criticism but most of these nobodies don't even critique they just attack.
That’s actually true.. I myself stand more towards issues with his current music - I think Tyler said it best, that his production is lacking and Em freaked out and responded in such a lame way. Even tho Tyler had a valid point
@@firstlast9846 nah that was not the reason. Tyler disrespected him calling it trash and all. Fair game, personally i wouldnt be saying it public like that because of the respect for em. But ones you do that it's free game for em to hit back
Its also the fact that with age he's become more liberal politically in a way that is definitely anti- counter culture. He falls in line with "big government" along liberal/Democrat ideology and thats a huge sign that he's more in tune with the system than against. Which is off putting for true rebel/anti establishment types like me.
Beyond that, although ive always acknowledged his astronomical ability as a wordsmith, as I mature into deeper faith I really can't vibe with all the murder and demonics he be talkin. And that being so central to his legacy, it don't connect with me the way it used to.
Eminem was pretty much R rated hip-pop, with a Weird Al twist to his gimmick.
His word play & delivery is legendary but many of his songs have aged terribly..even alot of the "classics" back in the day.
Same can't be said for Jay-Z, Snoop Dogg, Busta Rhymes and many other rappers whose music back then, still kicks today!!
I don't think so, why many of his songs have aged terribly? because he doesn't talk about gangs all the time like so many other rappers? man I'm a hip-hop fan but I don't wanna hear rappers talking about the same shit over and over again, it's boring, that's why it's great to listen to a guy who can come up with Without me or The Real Slim Shady, most of the time rap is to damn dark, many Eminem's classics have a funny side to it.
Hip Hop does respect Em. Some just don't think he's a GOAT and/or the type of artist you blast in your car and/or at a club. A lot of the shots that were taken at him were for clout and some were valid but also said for clout. Some of the shots come from jealousy or hate.
Now Snoop taking shots at em only to drop a dope track with him was from personal issues, jealousy type shit. Game straight up was tryna sell his album, Em never acknowledged him.
Also they take shots at Em cause they call him the creator of the corny rappers.
There's the youngers rappers and/or rap fans that don't respect a lot of OG rappers, their songs and albums.
from my understand and the points from this vid there's not much to say that "Hip Hop doesn't respect Eminem anymore". They come for everybody's neck, Game is the Game type shit.
Every person he quoted in this video has always thrown shade his way... They all a joke and only ever drop his name for publicity. The rest of the game respects him, always have always will. No one gives a fuck what snoop, jermaine, gucci or budden say... Half are completely irrelevant and the other half say so much dumb shit that anyone who takes them serious is also completely retarded.
the game was scared of him he even said em killed him on his track,he had time since 2006 to diss him if he wanted he waited till now cause people don t care about him or to make him big again with attention just like mgk,he is a clown and bipolar he is that guy today he says he respect you like he did with dre tomorrow ,,kanye did a lot for me in the last months than dre for my career ,,just lol,and em doesn t make club music this is double standards you say this about em and if you tell them nas jay z are nbot played in the clubs they are gonna say ,,they don t do club music,,this applies for em tho and still crack a bottle smash that smack that they been played in a lot of clubs lol
He was the top dog at one point, he’s still a legendary lyricist and skilled rapper. There will never be another rapper like Em. Specially now with AI helping people write lyrics.
Wouldnt that mean the complete opposite?
@@jameztheartist3893 no because Eminem is raw and real it’s his own word ai can make things like Eminem can but it won’t be real there no real emotion attached to ai and it’s not impressive anymore
@@Kira45874 as a musician A.I is very scary for what I do, and it's advancing at a scary pace. Eminem in the hip hop space probably won't be relevant if the use of A.I was completely accepted, he would be relevant as a talking peice for other people.
Exactly... like you can't remain no 1 forever like everything changes. Man had his absolute time and no one wanted any beef with him. Now my man is just enjoying life and providing care for his family.
Nah daylyt a better lyricist.
Snoop is one to talk, he got his start from dre, dre pulled out the best snoop, the best easy e, the best 50
Dre is the god father of rap and knows a legend when he hears it.
I'm so sick of people attacking eminem, he's still number 1
It's funny, everyone's reason on why Eminem doesn't belong amongst the greats is "well, do you bump him in the hood?" Like that is the all determining demographic of one's greatness. Eminem's impact is global. And no not every hood bumps Eminem. But give me your top 5 rappers with street cred and I will name 100 regions where people haven't even heard of them. It's comical, another one I heard was "would you bump Em in the car with your lady?" Probably not, but if you're on a date you're also not bumping Nas illmatic. Eminem is not everyone's preference, but you cannot deny his impact, his greatness, and the skills he brings to the table.
As an European i can give 100% that Eminem is more worldwide known and loved than Jay Z or all other rappers
And why do you think that is whitey
@@marvingriffin3 because he doesn’t primarily rap about women, drugs, and shooting
@@MattC-jg1yb but that’s exactly how he got his start. Remember his first three albums?
@@MattC-jg1ybhe raps about all 3 of those all the fucking time though. The fact you think Em is special for that shows an immense amount of ignorance in not only Em's music, but hiphop in general.
@@marvingriffin3 blacky
EM is one the of the greatest and no one can take this from him! he is a lyrical genius and most cant really hold a candle to him. he made history and broke records.
Lyrical genius? Calm down bro
Exactly this video is garbage
@@MIICAH2 wdym calm down he’s literally white lil Wayne
@@Mjiw-hn2zm y u have to bring race into it lol wayne isn't a lyrical genius either there's no such thing. There's just good lyricist
@@MIICAH2 go listen to drake kid .. you don't know nothing
Eminem is known to practically every person in the world. He is more known, more talented, more respected than these fools, who most people have no clue who they are. Jealousy is an ugly thing.
Em doesn't need to proof anything to anybody anymore. People love him and that's that
His flow just dropped. Now he just raps word garbles whereas back then he was vicious. He'd say the craziest shit or just stuff that nobody had the balls to actually say.
Hot take:
People are dumb
Ems a damn legend
100% true. I won't create separate comments with the same message. This is the only response I'm leaving. Most people on Earth have below average IQ. It's not an exaggeration to say most people are dumb. It's just a fact. You can't be an idiot when listening to Eminem. A lot of the criticism stems from exactly that. Idiots speaking. But it's ok. Freedom of speech, personal taste, and all. Let people speak their mind and live their lives. None of those opinions take away from Eminem's quality rap.
@@VladimirMizich pweople talk about eminem and his bars went over their head ,and i saw people like that and he is right for saying that cause his bars can go over your head if you don t listen properly
@@joseph7105 exactly youth don t respect old and etc,they talk about eminem cause they bringed them clout and views lol,or don t accept him cause he is white they can stay mad his name is up there with the best
These "changes" are what we call maturation. Dude's grown as a person & is being crucified for doing so. 🤦♂️
That's the world we live in now... smh
I'd say that's a very naive take. It's not completely false, there is a section of group who dislike em because "he's not the same as before" but imo a lot of the criticism aimed towards him are valid. IMO he's constantly getting better at rapping but giving away his artistry to do so. He's free to do whatever he likes, but the current direction is unlikely to be taken positively by the "hip hop community" at large. He'll find a niche though.
There's no denying the fact that he's a bigger hip-hop head than most of us. Dude loves to rap.
@@sagarmishra1192 ^OPs comment def rings true to this video
Yeah, the world we live in .. Some people actually consider Em&Em the Goat. smh