Yeah I know this video is overly censored, UA-cam automatically flagged this video when I uploaded it and I reuploaded it like 8 times trying to find what triggered the system, even had to censor the word "teabagging" 😭 I also stream on Twitch on twitch.tv/mujinofficial, here are some highlights: ua-cam.com/video/J1kZbiizMBU/v-deo.html Napnide's twitch: www.twitch.tv/napnide
“you can tell by his voice that he’s privileged” you can tell by the fact she has enough money to afford a streaming set up, a v tuber model and the time to stream and the fact she seems to have no understanding that her actions have consequences that she’s very privileged
The most privilege is not a race or gender. It is those who are wealthy and lack a understanding of hard work and the understanding of money. Some people look at others doing ok or well and make assumptions to feel better. I only say it this way because there are wealthy people who earned money through actual hard work and luck, then there are others who borrowed it, inherited it or earned it easily. You can usually tell by their attitude but not always.
@@staticbuilds7613 Preach. That whole privilege bs is insanity and it's only purpose is divide people while the actually privileged ones profit and laugh in the background.
@@staticbuilds7613 The only two privileges in life in my opinion is wealth and health, if you have both anywhere in the world you are free to do what you please. You can break law, you never run out of food and you can order people around. Those streamers who have insane setups, can start a twitch career for a long time before being profitable ARE privileged in lots of ways. Most people white black asians no matter where, can't do this, even in their native countries. But like you said, there are also people who are rich by working their asses off every day for years and don't have free time, they just work all day every day.
I like how the apologies nowadays starts with a "I've been sick for the past few days", "my dog passed away", "someone close to me unalived themselves" to garner sympathy points first like im sorry if its real but the internet made it sound like its a sarcastic opening sentence now
@@MinkxiTeswe all know what it is but it never works. They always get caught because the first reaction is wtf apology is this? Yet they ALWAYS do it. It like comes with the territory or something. If you ever made an apology starting with your trauma then you're on a fast track to being a dick and then doubling down on gas lighting.
tbh, if u think about the french expression for that, it doesnt have any reacist bias but if u want to use it in english, it does, its one of those situation where if u dont know perfectly english, u can end up saying things like that without actually knowing what it means in english to other english speakers
@@SpeedyGwen thats true. I have it sometimes. After I heard that, I also thought that maybe it wasn’t as bad but I wrote the comment before I got to that part of the video
@@SpeedyGwenI want to believe you but when she goes into details about it That just isn't the case it's definitely racially charged the way she meant it
uhm but it IS the truth? for example nowdays youths language is way more "rude" than it was before. you can use it with each other and it's fine. but use it on elderly and they say you are insulting rude and they won't talk to you. same here. nowadays you are not allowed to say anything or get mad or socials will cancel you and the funniest thing is all the people who interfere and think THEY re nice and can judge are often way worse.
I still find it absolutely wild that they’re calling him privileged meanwhile their literal job is to play games and talk to their chat, they need to get a grip lmfao
i'm white i rebuild trailers ranging from lowboy, flat decks, Reefer, cargo hazmat tankers Box trucks. My privilege is that my hands get dirty and cut up and i bleed blood sweat and tears repairing these trailers to keep the american logistics chain rolling all in inclement weather from freezing cold to sweltering 90+ hot heat with max humidity. Thats my privilege in life, i can be uncomfortable for 8 years a day depending on the weather. meanwhile homegirl probably makes as much or more than me sitting in AC and talking to a computer screen.
yea, its bad enough when bad people that happen to be minorities appropriate the language to excuse their behaviour, but this is straight up hypocritical
And they barely acknowledged that they did something wrong. Bub tried to diminish many of the accusations and Ann tried to blame her actions on being ESL as if she only said a single thing that she misunderstood the meaning to, but in reality she also spent literal hours (as her saying Napnide should "get shot" allegedly happened hours after) attacking the guy
@IYIisterJacky yeah...but hey at least their not getting the overused 2024 plot of being a edp So for once the writter team of 2024 are using some other plots
Even though I'm a right-populist guy, I enjoy seeing Community Notes contradict bad info and takes, and that includes those on my side. If it keeps people honest and well informed I'm all for it, but of course I enjoy seeing mainstream Reddit-approved media being blown up as well, but the fact it punches all directions to knock down bad info is something I truly appreciate.
"Two partnered streamers is too much for him" seriously these two are so entitled. They think so highly of themselves for being partners, so disgraceful.
I don't even get their point. Two people with privilege and power is enough to do a lot of damage and if clips hadn't gotten out about their actions they could have 100% started a harassment campaign against him and likely destroyed his life. They legit had power over him in that situation. It's also pretty hard to deal with things if you are getting piled on which is a factor in it all too
The “English isn’t my first language” excuse gets me everytime, cause you clearly have a strong grasp on the English language with what you had said and are now typing
As someone with english as their second language, I never understood that excuse. You are speaking it fluently and seem confident enough to make content solely in english, you dont get to have that excuse. Its not a lack of understanding of the language, but the ignorance of it.
@@_Worthless_ Same here. I'd like to think that you automatically lose access to that excuse when your second language is native-level fluent and there's no struggle to understand subtle cultural nuances.
One thing these apology videos have taught me is how to differentiate between a genuine person who wants to apologize, and a manipulator who is only 'apologizing' because they had no choice. thank you Mujin
Pewdiepie's apology, he's changed. And ngl, I believe he didn't really mean the n word at heart. No racist would even 'adopt' a female fictional character like Clementine in their edgy years.
Friendly reminder that these 2 did not admit they were in the wrong UNTIL the situation was brought to mainstream media. The first 5-6 days after the incident they were extremely defensive, lying about/downplaying what they did and doubling down on their position. Then SpookNJukes make his video on the situation getting the attention of lots of people. Then within 48 hours of that video going live they both issued their apology statements. They’re not sorry at all. Their statements were just damage control.
I'm french, this was clearly discrimination. Even if the term "blondinet" alone isn't pejorative itself, the context and the way she said it was 100% discrimination based on appearance
As a French myself, I do a lot of mocking. This right there? That was unprovoked, unwarranted bullying. Well, not totally unwarranted, she was just being a sore loser. And then the gumption to hide behind her own ethnicity and language? No ma'am, just... Non 🤨
I’m not French but I’m French Canadian and I don’t even understand how that French expression even relates to what she said in English. She was definitely using the fact that a lot of people do not speak French as well as using her culture to try and get sympathy.
@@SoulOfUnderworldUwU don't forget they also use the "i'm a cute & beautiful girl" & "it's just a joke bro" card to use as a scapegoat for their actions. It's crazy to me that Anntan is still active & has a platform on twitch but locked it for members only. Both of them should've gotten the permanent boot.
some chicks think that using a cute anime avatar and talking in a cutesy fake voice makes them completely invulnerable and lonely guys will defend them
but nearly no one defended them? It's pretty clear in the video if you're talking about AFTER apology (for example here, in this comments) I do agree with defenders, at least for the green one because her apology seems decent enough and at least she didn't say anything as bad as her friend (white man thing)
I was part of bub's community back when she had less than 10k follows back in 2021, I was banned from her discord because I would call her out on her behavior with some other members with each other in DMs and just completed ignored that she existed up to now and would you look at that, she's been exposed for who she really is
With this attitude of hers she'll just continue streaming as if nothing happens,not unless her viewers/chat would continuously call her out until she just leaves
i started watching her streams and she had these weird outbursts were she would mock me for trying to help her with something in a game. Really disrespectful behavior, basically went full bully in front of everyone in chat laughing and shaming me for trying to be nice so i just stopped watching her. Then she blames the reason her viewcount dropping on some Genshin creator and not her behavior.
Her entire thing is built on narcissism: Narcissists' prayer: That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it. And if I did, you deserved it.
Just a quick reminder: racist people will not see themselves as being racist. They will find means to justify their actions & words to make it seem okay to be racist. That, and bullies have that same mindset, too.
Racists always carry this nebulous perceived irony anytime they get called out they say “It’s just memeing bro what are you so mad about I’m saying it ironically.” And then try to turn it around on you and project. It’s insanely pathetic but works for them I guess 🤷♂️
Is it that hard to admit you're in the wrong and apologize? Not only it would have settled everything down but also you'll gain others respect. As admitting you were wrong takes courage and is a sign of maturity.
Honestly? This doesn't clear the top 50 of Bad behavior from content creators, IF they had just apologized and owned it to start with, They wouldn't be in so much hot water. Instead, She decided to Lie, TWICE, about something that was streamed from multiple perspectives, That so dumb, Literally caught on camera. Instead of just admitting "I fucked up, This wasn't right, I'm sorry" She proceeded to Lie, Deflect and only put out a boiler plate non-apologue once the backlash showed actual consequences.
Pride doesn't allow people to take accountability. Narcissism is also a reason. That's sad but unless you have the awareness to understand that you can make mistakes and grow from them, this will always happen
I dislike SunnyV2 for a lot of reasons, but one of the truest things he's ever stated is that apologising, no, even REACTING to drama is a decision that can kill a channel. Even if the allegations get bad enough, apologising is still an extremely dangerous move because there is almost no case where an apology permanently got creators out of troubles. Yes, most of their apologies are shit, but at the same time, there is few that are ever successful or that can be deemed "good" especially in the vtubing space (and twitter) riddled with toxicity and petty hatred. That said, lying about it, then DOUBLING DOWN, is one of the stupidest decisions you could do as a content creator.
@@EternaMidnight I am sure she genuely believes she wasn't bullying or being racist, it's socialy aceptable in the west to behave like her, truly privilaged.
@@EternaMidnight She was being playful... clearly. Whereas he was being borderline misogynist for beating them in a match when they happen to be women and were even playing female characters. Pig!
It's not bullying, somehow. Because despite him being a smaller streamer and them being "partners" and much bigger, also four versus one. He was the privileged one with original sin for being who he is, thus they were "punching up".
I had ~8000 hours in dbd when I stopped playing. The "humping" as anyone who played killer even once should know is when you're trying to find the survivor on the floor or get the prompt to pick them up. All of this started because the killer was trying to pick up their victim that they knocked down. Man that dead by daylight community is full of weirdos
I know nothing about dead by daylight and from his POV it's pretty obvious he was just trying to pick them up. They got salty they were getting steamrolled lol
As a native french speaker (belgian) I can confirm that Anntan is bullshiting. First and foremost I find it hilarious that there is a massive error in the one sentence that is in French (supposedly her birth language). About the "blondinet riche" : nobody uses it in that way and no one would ever translate this in "white man with privileged". "Blondinet can be used in a playful way but if you speak to someone you don't know (especially with her tone) it is probably trying to be slightly insulting (like calling someone "cute" in an argument, the word isn't bad but you get the meaning pretty well). I have never heard the mix "blondinet riche" as an expression and I have met and worked with a lot of French persons. There is an expression "le blond" that come from a famous French comedy sketch wich refers to a rich blond guy who does everything perfectly effortlessly. It's more used to joke about yourself, like "le blond" would have done this .. while you failed or struggled epicly. Either way, even if she was trying to refer to this, it refers more to the cliche of the rich families from Paris that goes to pricey private schools and act superior (it is a really specific look that you can quit often see in French comedy movies). And let's be honest, he doesn't even look one bit as this cliche. Thanks for reading this long long post, hope I helped a bit. Thanks Mujin for your great videos
French girl here (Parisian). I agree with everything you said. I've never heard the expression 'blondinet riche' in my entire life. 'Blondinet' alone, sure... it would be the equivalent of 'blondie' in English, with cute and flirty undertones (often used affectionately or playfully). But used in a context of obvious animosity like in the clip, it's totally different. For people with no notion of the French language, don't let her fool you... she's speaking nonsense. She's also very fluent in English. Pulling the second-language card is not very convincing when the girl speaks almost like a native English speaker during the collab.
To me the crazy thing is them attacking this man because of how he looks but they hide behind their vtuber avatars. Like that’s coward shit right there
Its cause a lot of vtuber fans are loli sympathizers. Why do you think majority of the popular vtubers use children models? Its cause they're 20+year old women and cant emulate the look of a child IRL. Of course not all vtuber fans like Lolicon but its too big of an elephant to not acknowledge it.
Yeah, let them show how you REALLY look like instead of hiding behind your avatar. I know she is a white girl, acting Asian and is 400 pounds that no one will f*ck.
@synister9059 No.... just no. Temp bans are synonymous with suspensions. In no game have I ever heard of using your account during a suspension. Shadow bans are the only thing even close to that type of punishment.
@@synister9059 It what world of definition does suspension equal "still some access"? You made that up. Suspension is a temporary ban. Like when you were younger and the bad kids got suspended/suspension. They were banned from school entirely until a further date. You're talking about restrictions or limits.
@@madmike171 Twitter,FB,IG,YT,all online games has suspensions there are post suspension where you can still scroll & message people but can't like nor post anything up & there are message suspensions where you can scroll through & post stuff up but can't send messages to anyone & for online games they have message & voice suspension where you can still play but can't talk to others maybe you should do your research before yappin about school suspensions
Neither she nor her friends ever mention this but I heard directly from Napnide and his mods on one of his streams that the same night they harassed him on stream the two twitch partners viewers/chat (not sure if they did themselves) invaded and hate raided his discord server. He literally had to private his server because they kept joining and harassing. The fact they either incentivized or did not stop or even condemn a HATE RAID in his server is infuriating- especially because Napnide is such a sweetheart and did absolutely nothing to deserve this. I’m glad he’s getting more recognition because his content is amazing, I joined to show my support but ended up staying after 5 hours in his 15 hr stream because I enjoyed it so much.
I had a server i was active in hate raided by a big streamer. We were a small league of legends coaching server, the average coach only charged people like five to ten bucks per session. And the average session could last hours, we were mostly new player focused. And some big "lol coach" thought we had no right to teach new players and sent his entire army to hate rade our server. What made it so hypocritical is the fact the same dude who raided our server charges literally hundreds of dollars just for a 1 hour session
white privilege does exist, this sort of insulting and harassing happens to POC creators daily and it is unfair that this dude immediately has people on his side while poc creators get told off that it’s just a joke and they should stop being sensitive.. so yes this situation is white privilege i’m not defending them fyi
@@luvrboyhaloif stupid was in the Olympics you would have won gold. You fighting demons that don’t exist and make up situations to suit your foolish narrative and victim complex seek help and think for yourself for once in your life😊
I’m poc. I hate how normalized it’s become to immediately make fun of someone if they’re white. On a anon account I used to have I got harassed and called white for a year until I literally had to post a skin reveal and they never bothered me again. Some even groveled. It’s so refreshing hearing Mujin laugh at how ridiculous ALL skin discrimination is.
@@heavensfayeracism against white are are at an extreme now. Or are you just saying it doesn’t happen? I don’t see whites going around stabbing, robbing. And other stuff based on race.
I get what you're trying to say, but racism is racism regardless of the victim or perpetrator. White people can be racist towards others, black people can be racist towards black people. Sometimes people are so spiteful or self-hating that they are prejudiced against the label that could or does define them. While not racism, a good example of that kind of behavior is how some gay and lesbian people claim bixesual isn't a thing or otherwise discriminate against them.
"I didn't know I was being racist" "I didn't know it was a slur" "I didn't mean to harass" They are completely missing the point, imo. Someone who had only the best of intentions, someone who wasn't TRYING to be mean to/harass someone, someone who wasn't salty over a stupid videogame and was trying to make it someone else's problem, doesn't need to know whether or not they are doing those things. You have to go out of your way to be mean. It costs nothing to be nice... and they went out of their way, and said some very unflattering things in some very unflattering ways. At that point, it probably wouldn't have mattered exactly what they said, they were doomed to say something bad, one way or another... but they are so caught up on the specifics that it took them forever to apologize, and even when they did, they couldn't do it appropriately.
Most are garbage. Only one bully of mine actually apologized to me during highschool. I do think he meant it because we had a random encounter when he did apologize.
"As I've been sick for the past week and just has been released from the hospital today I find I have to speak about events publicly." Rather privileged to be able to afford hospital trips, buster.
Im clearly certain that they are living in Québec, we get free hospital at the cost of eternal wait LOL, but they are just cringe, hiding behind a avatar is total cowardise to my opinion.
"I can feel your pain we have similar wounds" (or something like that) This gives villain speech of "You and I are not so different" and I can't help but laugh my ass off
They probably think that white men just don't have problems in life because they don't want to think of them as normal human beings. They just want something they can pin their problems on because they are taught that white people caused it somehow.
As a DBD player with enormous 7K hour count I have to say DBD is probably one of the most toxic communities I had to be a part of where winning is considered Bad Manners. But despite watching SpooknJukes content I somehow missed this entire situation? Honestly, at this point you're my main news channel even about game communities I'm part of but never considered you'd be making videos about. No, like, really, I subbed for Genshin and now we're somehow touching my favorite Dead By Daylight subject because of VTubers? How does this even happen, haha.
The problem is Behavour Interactive makes absolutely zero effort to moderate their own user base. This has always been a big problem with the company. They hire one or two people as community team staff... that's it. The developers are expected to do double duty as game devs and baby sitters for the players (this negatively impacted Eternal Crusade), the DBD devs however, decided, screw that, so they don't bother doing anything. The only place DBD has any degree of order is the official Discord server which is monitored by unpaid volunteers from Reddit. bE is a tryhard company who underpays staff and overreaches in ambition while cost cutting so they can cosplay at being AAA with a AA budget. They operate like it is still 2004, game doesn't even have any anti-harrassment features and bH does nothing to put toxic streamers to task, leaving it up to others to do so instead. Compare this to Square Enix who will punish someone in game for their negative behaviour on a streaming site while playing their games, worlds apart on terms of trying to discouage toxicity.
What i found off with Ann's apology was that she first apologised to her community, which was not hurt or anything the like. Secondly, she said that she has trauma from racism but reduced a person to only their skin colour and made jokes about it... that is racism. I dont know her ethnic background, but just because she might be not white, does not make racism in any form ok. Sadly, often enough the abused becomes the abuser, like her.
@@einfachignorieren6156 not true at all lol. many parts of africa were colonized by france, including some of the places the prior commenter posted. there is more french influence in these areas due to colonization. you should look it up, because colonization is awful and denying its occurrence is kind of rancid. it fucked up a lot of different african countries' politics, economics, and society because they were brutalized by the french, as they were by other colonial nations as well that im sure youve heard of, like united states and the uk. yeah i also forgot to share the list of all the countries in africa that speak french, according to google: "French is the official language in Benin, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cameroon, the Central African Republic, Chad, Comoros, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Congo, the Côte d'Ivoire, Djibouti, Gabon, Guinea, Madagascar, Mali, Niger, Rwanda, Senegal, the Seychelles, and Togo." (from guides.loc.gov). I used to work at a family business where they were majority morrocan and tunisian, two north african countries, and they spoke french as well as farsi.
Immediately what I thought too. The amount of buzzwords in this is far too many for it to seem like a real person. And if her primary language isn’t English, there’s no way she could write that comprehensively, even with a translator.
@@PanAndProudI don't disagree with your primary point, but there's plenty of people with native languages other than English who are able to speak and write it very fluently. No need to assume they're incapable of the same level of writing quality as a native speaker.
The french "apology" is something. English is my second language, but just like her, im fluent in english...and her being that fluent can understand how much racially profiled her comment wasp
English is my first language and I have taken offense to people for statements they made when it was not THEIR main language. Difference being that their TONE was a lot more harsh/short than intended, and once they explained themselves a little more it was immediately resolved, because the statement itself wasn't in bad faith, it was just a bad choice of words to express it. Someone who's innocent would clarify their position in good faith and the mistake would be evident. When you say something directly and overtly malicious, there is no such leniency, which is why all she can do is deflect and deny she said anything.
@@whoknows-oz6cy no She is fluent enough in english to be talking like that, in addition to branding herself as an ENVtuber (ergo having high enough fluency to not only speak english in a formal manner- like school taught english- yet also being in a community where english is the main language (the internet community where english expressions, syntaxes etc etc etc are mainly being used). She does not have problems or need to think when talking in english, even using tones and rhythm in her speaking. Furthermore, VTubing is a job mainly connected to the internet. (Edit starts because i forgot to elaborate). Of course there are many communities and languages circulating the internet, but the main ones revolves around English. For someone who made it their professionalism, they have to scour many parts of the internets, learning expressions, and even talk with natives... So its unlikely for her to be incapable of understanding beyond the wordings (edit end) With the context in mind, its unlikely for her not understanding the semblance of her wordings. The addition of "*of course* its a white man..." Shows her disdain.
@@whoknows-oz6cy If you're talking to me, then no, that isn't what I'm saying. Actually THIS right here is what I'm talking about lol English is very context sensitive and things like tone do not translate well over text, add in a language barrier and it's even worse. Sarcasm is basically an entire genre of making innocent statements sound obnoxious and insulting by simply altering the tone of voice, it isn't difficult for an innocent statement to come across the wrong way. Such misunderstandings are easily resolved by simply asking why they are taking offense, and then correcting them if what they repeat back to you is not what you intended to say. If it really is a genuine mistake, it should be rather obvious once you add more context. Some people are just very sensitive and read extra meaning out of a statement that isn't there, it's just part of being human.
The controversy he's gonna be in, is about redeem channel. MUJIN! GIVE ME BACK MY CHANNEL POINTS!! I'LL WILL THE RACE SO GIVE ME BACK THE CHANNEL POINTS! Ilovemujin,jk
They always always always bring up saying, "Im in a hospital" "Ive been sick for awhile" and "my mental health...blah blah blah" What illness have they caught?? Accountability?? Lol
it's because they see the reaction when it happens to the people who really are suffering problems, and in their attention seeking, modern female brains think "I want attention geeb geeb nao grown baby woman want attention!" etc etc :/... just more downward spiraling of society when we have fed these narcissists. Ya wanna know the truely, horrific, scary and disgusting thing? She will still have a bunch of slobering simps / companies feed her money.
Hang on a minute... 17:50 , English isn't first language..But somehow she can perfectly say the words "priviledged young white male" holy shit she's cooked.
28:44 that’s heartwarming to know he is gaining more and more followers after getting follower shammed, I wish him the best. I am going to follow him as well even though I don’t watch streams or use twitch
I genuinely love how female vtubers are calling someone privileged. Legitimately, to make it to where they are is an extremely privileged position, and they ruined it by racism. Also Anntan also defended herself in the clip saying she wasn't being racist. She absolutely knew what she was saying.
I mean, you can be absolutely vile to Whites because they're the acceptable target - if this had been a black streamer then Twitch would have burned and there would have been legislators talking about how they need spaces to destroy because of racism. It's time to start pulling out pages from the playbook - if one group is allowed to go absolute babirusa over racial incidents, why aren't others?
I may not like live streams, but watching highlights of vtubers is enjoyable; learning about people like these 2 kind of shatters the fantasy of what vtubers tend to be: light-hearted performers to unwind with their antics.
I love how people like this justify that you can be racist to white people since they are white. Just be kind to everyone and treat them all the way you want them to treat you. Glad more people are waking up to this hypocrisy. Actually happy to see the streamer blew up after this as well LuL.
@Kirlgisermoniyou can be racist to White people. Racism: To treat someone differently (almost always worse) based on their appearence, ethnicity or place of birth. Pretty Universal definition.
@Kirlgisermoni white ppl aren't the majority in most non-western countries lol. yes u can be racist to white ppl and the fact you don't believe this implies 1) ur American or 2) ur a kid. none of what they said about napnide was justified.
Exactly I'm black and it's mind boggling to me that people think white people are immune to racism simply because they're white, it's idiotic and people who believe that clearly don't know what racism is 🤡
hiya, so finnish person here (napnide is finnish) and what is ironic is that finnish people have went years of colonization and slavery, especially in karjala. so people being racist to my people and minimalizing it down to 'a white guy' is very, VERY offensive to me and other finnish people i'd expect. apology not forgiven
They also magically forget Africans and muslims started to take slaves from and colonize Europe 700 years before Europeans did it to them. Hypocrite losers.
@@Snuquli the word slave originates from the people group known as 'Slavs'. Basically poles, russians and ukrainians are some of the people from this group. Due to historically being a region with weak kingdoms or tribes they where very populor to kidnap and turn into slaves. If any info i have said from the top of my head is wrong feel free to corect me.
The fact that Anntan didn't bother to double check the only sentence in french she wrote and managed to make a mistake + the other fact that "blondinet" doesn't translate to white guy in any capacity and that she searched for a way weasle out of the situation made me chuckle :') If you can't insult ppl in a language you are not familiar with without being racist, I think you should kinda give up on the idea of being a D while streaming
@@aR0ttenBANANA she's ethnically a Moroccan-Swiss. Make a guess which country she was born and raised in; however I'd still call point at her the same way I look at Amandala; she's still half white. And people really need to drop that "African" descriptor cause it means jack as the continent is not a homogeneous culture. I wouldn't put it past Morrocan's saying they do not claim her since she has that typical Western viewpoint; in the same way I've seen Latinos and Africans say they want nothing to do with people from Europe, Canada or USA claiming solidarity with them just on skin tone alone.
Even while trying to dance around the issue she still make it racist. Furthermore, her tone was spiteful and filled with disdain so you can also forget her "it's said playfully".
@@strategicperson95 ah yeah, that explains it. Kinda cringe that she plays the “white privilege” card on the other dude when she probably uses that on the daily for her own benefit.
This video was hilarious, was linked to me by a friend of mine😂 Subscribed immediatelly! I have been avoiding watching most of these videos about the situation but this genuinely made me almost tear up (both from being funny as well as very kind). All the love, Nap
I'm glad the consequences happened and that a lot of people are holding those vtubers accountable or making it clear they're not accepting their insincerity. I hope you've gotten a lot of support or will get a lot and that things will get better for you.
"in french there is a more playfull term, blondinet" i feel like the actual term translated would be "blondie", and that literally has the same meaning as the french one, but it's definitely different from "priviledged white guy" or whatever she called the dude
@@Jokuthesaiyangod Definitely and there are one too many high-level indie AND agency VTubers out there just saying completely racist nonsense like its the norm. The community is just way too comfortable spewing garbage
@@Jokuthesaiyangod I agree with you two, it's sad how bad apples in any community are always louder and make everyone look a little worse. I'd say that influence is pretty understated and should be adressed more.
The two vtubers made it sound like they had no choice but to go to the guy's stream and make fun of him. There're plenty of choices: get better at the game, leave the game, ask him to go easy on them next time, Leave The Game, go take a walk, close the tab, switch to a new game, Leave, etc. But no, they had to harass a guy who was playing a game he enjoyed, respected yall's gameplay, and thought that he could relax the rest of the night without worrying until four strangers decided "hmm no". Great video. Community notes went for the throat this time around
"I never sent anyone to target the said individual" It seriously seems like the last people to realise when someone is getting bullied are the people *_doing_* the bullying
6:14 as a DBD player, this is a dysync moment, happens a lot in matches where you down someone is one spot and they teleport to another, entirely due to ping. Its easy to tell when it happens and idk how anyone could think thats humping
Any multiplayer, er, player can tell. You misconstrue it as an offense when you're spoiled, salty and hungry for excuses to assuage your ego and to bully.
@@saphojuiced6243 I mean they clearly couldn’t tell considering tell considering they called it humping initially and is the whole reason this drama started, and I didn’t know sharing an obvious fact and then giving an opinion is me being “hungry for excuses to assuage my ego and to bully” but go off I guess
@@Frallicus ESL, I assume. Yes, I obviously meant them. My use of the second person is basic figurative rhetoric. Even if you don't know that, it's easy to tell by the context who I meant. Also, we don't know that they genuinely thought he was "humping." Could've well been an act. Or they might've fooled themselves, because, that's what they wanted it to be. My first reply covers both possibilities.
Her apology was definitely not written by herself, the differences in the way she "talks(types)" is so vastly different. Not only that, theirs so many more upper management phrases used.
also not the least bit surprised that Baebub started throwing her friends under the bus in her "apology". very much the time "My friends said these things and I should have stopped them" yeah some friend you are.
This is what gets me. Both apologies weren't great but Bub's is on another level of bad. Just immediately throwing her friends under the bus, no introspection, and no accountability.
Yeah I know this video is overly censored, UA-cam automatically flagged this video when I uploaded it and I reuploaded it like 8 times trying to find what triggered the system, even had to censor the word "teabagging" 😭
I also stream on Twitch on twitch.tv/mujinofficial, here are some highlights: ua-cam.com/video/J1kZbiizMBU/v-deo.html Napnide's twitch: www.twitch.tv/napnide
Man, that's rough buddy, but hey, at least we have new video for education.
This is an absurd amount censorship, ^ don’t know why the community isn’t pushing back against UA-cam about this.
teabagging??? WHAT-
Did you try asking your youtube guy (if you have one)? Thats really unfortunate.
@@UniqueHandles newsflash: we can't. Not even anti-trust laws work against convicted monopolies like Google because they're just... too big :/
“you can tell by his voice that he’s privileged” you can tell by the fact she has enough money to afford a streaming set up, a v tuber model and the time to stream and the fact she seems to have no understanding that her actions have consequences that she’s very privileged
I'm assuming here but a quote may apply "Don't forget the most privelige after the white man is the white woman"
Her voice sounds like a privileged bullies who think that they can get away with anything because they have rich parents
The most privilege is not a race or gender. It is those who are wealthy and lack a understanding of hard work and the understanding of money. Some people look at others doing ok or well and make assumptions to feel better. I only say it this way because there are wealthy people who earned money through actual hard work and luck, then there are others who borrowed it, inherited it or earned it easily. You can usually tell by their attitude but not always.
@@staticbuilds7613 Preach. That whole privilege bs is insanity and it's only purpose is divide people while the actually privileged ones profit and laugh in the background.
@@staticbuilds7613 The only two privileges in life in my opinion is wealth and health, if you have both anywhere in the world you are free to do what you please. You can break law, you never run out of food and you can order people around.
Those streamers who have insane setups, can start a twitch career for a long time before being profitable ARE privileged in lots of ways. Most people white black asians no matter where, can't do this, even in their native countries.
But like you said, there are also people who are rich by working their asses off every day for years and don't have free time, they just work all day every day.
I like how the apologies nowadays starts with a "I've been sick for the past few days", "my dog passed away", "someone close to me unalived themselves" to garner sympathy points first like im sorry if its real but the internet made it sound like its a sarcastic opening sentence now
it always feels like a 'this is the reason why I didn't talk about the situation, please believe me, I wanted to talk about it sooner' to me.
It is a common deflection tactic to garner sympathy, like you said yourself, and to reduce how people might feel about the actual thing done.
damage control basically
Ratsu pioneered this tactic btw (jk)
@@MinkxiTeswe all know what it is but it never works. They always get caught because the first reaction is wtf apology is this?
Yet they ALWAYS do it. It like comes with the territory or something. If you ever made an apology starting with your trauma then you're on a fast track to being a dick and then doubling down on gas lighting.
Me when im in the "drama" competition and my opponents are vtubers: 😮💨
*western indie vtubers
@@ENKTDeeColon_and_randomnumbers yeah bro the Asian ones are the same only difference is they are kept on a leash like dogs and treated like ones too
@swagermaster8573 Real 😭
Anime watchers when they must hate a vtuber but they say "when cute/girl not bad"
Same though lol 🤣
Live streamer in general
Not her insulting his looks (like that he is a white guy) while she is hiding behind a vtuber model… like damn this is embarrassing
Yea for real 😂😂
tbh, if u think about the french expression for that, it doesnt have any reacist bias but if u want to use it in english, it does, its one of those situation where if u dont know perfectly english, u can end up saying things like that without actually knowing what it means in english to other english speakers
@@SpeedyGwen thats true. I have it sometimes. After I heard that, I also thought that maybe it wasn’t as bad but I wrote the comment before I got to that part of the video
@@SpeedyGwenI want to believe you but when she goes into details about it That just isn't the case it's definitely racially charged the way she meant it
Nah fr don't insult someone looks when you're hiding your face from the world
"Some people are more sensitive to some stuff being said" is straight up high school bully rhetoric oh my god
Narcissist prayer seems apt here
It's on par with saying "sorry you got offended"
I can 100% hear this in Gretchen Weiners' voice and it could be a quote from Mean Girls.
uhm but it IS the truth? for example nowdays youths language is way more "rude" than it was before. you can use it with each other and it's fine. but use it on elderly and they say you are insulting rude and they won't talk to you. same here. nowadays you are not allowed to say anything or get mad or socials will cancel you and the funniest thing is all the people who interfere and think THEY re nice and can judge are often way worse.
Granted people might have legitimate trauma triggers here and there, but that's obviously not at play here.
I still find it absolutely wild that they’re calling him privileged meanwhile their literal job is to play games and talk to their chat, they need to get a grip lmfao
while not even doing the bare minimum of showing their face lol
whats even worse is the guy revealed in a video with a youtuber called spooknjukes he grew up poor and abused.
i'm white i rebuild trailers ranging from lowboy, flat decks, Reefer, cargo hazmat tankers Box trucks.
My privilege is that my hands get dirty and cut up and i bleed blood sweat and tears repairing these trailers to keep the american logistics chain rolling all in inclement weather from freezing cold to sweltering 90+ hot heat with max humidity.
Thats my privilege in life, i can be uncomfortable for 8 years a day depending on the weather.
meanwhile homegirl probably makes as much or more than me sitting in AC and talking to a computer screen.
yea, its bad enough when bad people that happen to be minorities appropriate the language to excuse their behaviour, but this is straight up hypocritical
Also vtuber models are very expensive, so they are privileged to be able to afford one rather than stream through video
The fact that they apologized after they realized "actions have consequences" explains everything to me ☠️ They dont seem genuine at all
The entire apology post looked like the Ukelele apology in text form.
The second one is just pulling out a goddang harp.
Exactly
They're not sorry for their actions, they're sorry they got caught.
an actual apology begins and ends with "im sorry, i was wrong." its that simple. no sob story, no twitlonger wall of text.
And they barely acknowledged that they did something wrong. Bub tried to diminish many of the accusations and Ann tried to blame her actions on being ESL as if she only said a single thing that she misunderstood the meaning to, but in reality she also spent literal hours (as her saying Napnide should "get shot" allegedly happened hours after) attacking the guy
he’s at 11k now. good on him!
Sweet sweet justice
Its concerning when my 1st thought was
"Oh god not again"
It genuinely becomes a problem if its a repeating trend, or in this case... *It already is.*
@IYIisterJacky yeah...but hey at least their not getting the overused 2024 plot of being a edp
So for once the writter team of 2024 are using some other plots
@@Evan_doodlearts brother dont jinx it 2024 is not over yet xD
Exactly
At this rate, the amount of agains are going to be uncountable
Attacking small streamers while hiding behind a vtuber persona 🤡🤡🤡
lol
Talk shit about said small streamers regarding their appearance while hiding behind anime avatar 🤡🤡🤡
a classic tactic 😌
I bet they look horrid behind all that facade
@@leduq2383🧐🧐🧐
community notes basically saying "nu-uh" to every tweets about addressing drama is always chuckle me
Even though I'm a right-populist guy, I enjoy seeing Community Notes contradict bad info and takes, and that includes those on my side. If it keeps people honest and well informed I'm all for it, but of course I enjoy seeing mainstream Reddit-approved media being blown up as well, but the fact it punches all directions to knock down bad info is something I truly appreciate.
@@Keirnoth You're like a vegan but with GamerGate how are you real
I read your comment with Piccolo's voice!
Sucks that the community notes on this one were so bad. Lol. Still, it is funny.
It's my favorite thing lmfao.
-received a 7-day ban
-unbanned after 2 days
-inactive on Twitch ever since
The real punishment was nobody buying their equine fertilizer and hounding them about it every step of the way...
But yeah, Twitch fucked up
good
Looks like it hurts to get expose and burned ❌🔥 lol
Sometimes mob justice is the only justice going around. When institutions fail somebody has to get justice done, and it clearly isn't twitch.
-received a 7 day ban (for HARASSMENT AND RACISM)
-unbanned after 2 days
-calls the person they harassed “privileged”
"Two partnered streamers is too much for him" seriously these two are so entitled. They think so highly of themselves for being partners, so disgraceful.
She'll do well in vshojo
@@akira8393 For 1 week maximum - then she graduates.
And then they have the audacity to say that the guy is the privileged one.
@@Lunk42 i mean is it really a surprised for toxic political nutjobs? This is like their speech pattern
I don't even get their point. Two people with privilege and power is enough to do a lot of damage and if clips hadn't gotten out about their actions they could have 100% started a harassment campaign against him and likely destroyed his life. They legit had power over him in that situation. It's also pretty hard to deal with things if you are getting piled on which is a factor in it all too
The “English isn’t my first language” excuse gets me everytime, cause you clearly have a strong grasp on the English language with what you had said and are now typing
As someone with english as their second language, I never understood that excuse. You are speaking it fluently and seem confident enough to make content solely in english, you dont get to have that excuse. Its not a lack of understanding of the language, but the ignorance of it.
"English isn't my first language"
(Properly uses "prepubescent white boy")
@@_Worthless_ Same here. I'd like to think that you automatically lose access to that excuse when your second language is native-level fluent and there's no struggle to understand subtle cultural nuances.
she made a mistake on the french sentence "face palm"
well anntan did say she had a friend help write her apology, but that still doesnt excuse everything she said/typed before then
One thing these apology videos have taught me is how to differentiate between a genuine person who wants to apologize, and a manipulator who is only 'apologizing' because they had no choice. thank you Mujin
Same
What’s an example of a genuine apology made by a UA-camr or Vtuber because I’ve yet to see one 😭
@@strawberryfaithx3666I believe that Pewdiepie's apology is an example of a sincere apology.
@@strawberryfaithx3666 I second pewdiepies apology, it's pretty good
Pewdiepie's apology, he's changed. And ngl, I believe he didn't really mean the n word at heart. No racist would even 'adopt' a female fictional character like Clementine in their edgy years.
Friendly reminder that these 2 did not admit they were in the wrong UNTIL the situation was brought to mainstream media. The first 5-6 days after the incident they were extremely defensive, lying about/downplaying what they did and doubling down on their position. Then SpookNJukes make his video on the situation getting the attention of lots of people. Then within 48 hours of that video going live they both issued their apology statements.
They’re not sorry at all. Their statements were just damage control.
Annatan really pulled out the "we're not so different, you and I" villain cliche
Dattebayo Napnide
talk no jutsu not so effective after all
23:22
As an african person who speak arabic and french that's the worst excuse I've ever heard we don't want her too
blaming her own ethnicity to excuse herself, this is why everyone in social media is racist. they see bad behavior and associate it with culture.
eww colonial guy
Based
Based
yknow
since she is a vtuber and is using it to garner sympathy for something she did wrong...
i cant help but think she is lying
I'm french, this was clearly discrimination. Even if the term "blondinet" alone isn't pejorative itself, the context and the way she said it was 100% discrimination based on appearance
You mean it was racism?
As a French myself I start getting so angry by the way she try to make it less severe when she explains it☠️☠️
As a French myself, I do a lot of mocking. This right there? That was unprovoked, unwarranted bullying. Well, not totally unwarranted, she was just being a sore loser.
And then the gumption to hide behind her own ethnicity and language? No ma'am, just... Non 🤨
I’m not French but I’m French Canadian and I don’t even understand how that French expression even relates to what she said in English. She was definitely using the fact that a lot of people do not speak French as well as using her culture to try and get sympathy.
I'm not French but you're probably correct
> Harasses small streamer
> Gets dogpiled for it
> Plays victim card
The jokes write themselves, folks.
They act without realizing the consequences ahead❌
@@SoulOfUnderworldUwU don't forget they also use the "i'm a cute & beautiful girl" & "it's just a joke bro" card to use as a scapegoat for their actions. It's crazy to me that Anntan is still active & has a platform on twitch but locked it for members only. Both of them should've gotten the permanent boot.
some chicks think that using a cute anime avatar and talking in a cutesy fake voice makes them completely invulnerable and lonely guys will defend them
@@neonyankun 2/10 ragebait
Unfortunately, the vtuber fanbase is such as that. They will defend the crap outta vubers.
With that profile picture theyre probably legit 😂@@slicoxe2865
but nearly no one defended them? It's pretty clear in the video
if you're talking about AFTER apology (for example here, in this comments) I do agree with defenders, at least for the green one because her apology seems decent enough and at least she didn't say anything as bad as her friend (white man thing)
You mean peds?
That's not a cutesy voice, it's a little girl voice.
I was part of bub's community back when she had less than 10k follows back in 2021, I was banned from her discord because I would call her out on her behavior with some other members with each other in DMs and just completed ignored that she existed up to now and would you look at that, she's been exposed for who she really is
Some people never change, do they?
With this attitude of hers she'll just continue streaming as if nothing happens,not unless her viewers/chat would continuously call her out until she just leaves
Tea
This should be pinned
i started watching her streams and she had these weird outbursts were she would mock me for trying to help her with something in a game. Really disrespectful behavior, basically went full bully in front of everyone in chat laughing and shaming me for trying to be nice so i just stopped watching her. Then she blames the reason her viewcount dropping on some Genshin creator and not her behavior.
"It wasn't racist" - proceeds to be racist.
if you can be racist against white people, than i can fall upwards and fly
The hypocrisy is literally in the same sentence(s) too its crazy
are we pretending that calling someone a white guy is racist now?
That qualifier "I'm not racist, it wasn't racist" always sets them up for them to shit all over it.
"Please do not harass the said person" said the person who harassed the said person
Her entire thing is built on narcissism:
Narcissists' prayer:
That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.
And if I did, then you are a bad person so you deserve it
Just a quick reminder: racist people will not see themselves as being racist. They will find means to justify their actions & words to make it seem okay to be racist. That, and bullies have that same mindset, too.
Or to go even more generalized:
Evil people rarely see themselves as evil.
Racists always carry this nebulous perceived irony anytime they get called out they say “It’s just memeing bro what are you so mad about I’m saying it ironically.” And then try to turn it around on you and project. It’s insanely pathetic but works for them I guess 🤷♂️
They usually see themselves as some kind of hero
Nah, I'm racist and I fully own it
Same. I like to call it "learning from statistics." That said, they were so salty. Pathetic and weak.
"The clip takes me out of context to make me look bad."
*Full context makes them even look even worse.* 😂
Lol 😂
Racist bullies? They’d fit right in at NIJISANJI.
Uki will be their bestie!
@@MinkxiTes yo i have been not hearing if that man for years what has he done? is he racist now?????
He’s made dozens of anti-white remarks, essentially he’s racist because he was “traumatized” by white people. Also he can’t read the room on Twitter.
I thought he was one of the good ones???
@@sparksparkdie he openly hates white people. Especially elderly ones that say hello.
Community Notes being so passive aggressive and I live for it
It gives those Jonathan Frakes Beyond Believe "or did we just make that up? 😏" vibe 😂
Is it that hard to admit you're in the wrong and apologize? Not only it would have settled everything down but also you'll gain others respect. As admitting you were wrong takes courage and is a sign of maturity.
Honestly? This doesn't clear the top 50 of Bad behavior from content creators, IF they had just apologized and owned it to start with, They wouldn't be in so much hot water.
Instead, She decided to Lie, TWICE, about something that was streamed from multiple perspectives, That so dumb, Literally caught on camera. Instead of just admitting "I fucked up, This wasn't right, I'm sorry" She proceeded to Lie, Deflect and only put out a boiler plate non-apologue once the backlash showed actual consequences.
In this day and Age. As Legal Mindset said it we need to allow Creators to say "I fxxx up" And allow them to actually make mistakes. It's that bad
Pride doesn't allow people to take accountability. Narcissism is also a reason. That's sad but unless you have the awareness to understand that you can make mistakes and grow from them, this will always happen
Blame their stupid pride and ego on that one
I dislike SunnyV2 for a lot of reasons, but one of the truest things he's ever stated is that apologising, no, even REACTING to drama is a decision that can kill a channel.
Even if the allegations get bad enough, apologising is still an extremely dangerous move because there is almost no case where an apology permanently got creators out of troubles. Yes, most of their apologies are shit, but at the same time, there is few that are ever successful or that can be deemed "good" especially in the vtubing space (and twitter) riddled with toxicity and petty hatred.
That said, lying about it, then DOUBLING DOWN, is one of the stupidest decisions you could do as a content creator.
"I don't like bullying" Delusion is a hell of a drug 😭
Exactly like wtf did she think she was doing then?
@@EternaMidnight I am sure she genuely believes she wasn't bullying or being racist, it's socialy aceptable in the west to behave like her, truly privilaged.
@@EternaMidnight She was being playful... clearly. Whereas he was being borderline misogynist for beating them in a match when they happen to be women and were even playing female characters. Pig!
It's not bullying, somehow. Because despite him being a smaller streamer and them being "partners" and much bigger, also four versus one. He was the privileged one with original sin for being who he is, thus they were "punching up".
I had ~8000 hours in dbd when I stopped playing. The "humping" as anyone who played killer even once should know is when you're trying to find the survivor on the floor or get the prompt to pick them up. All of this started because the killer was trying to pick up their victim that they knocked down.
Man that dead by daylight community is full of weirdos
8k hours??? 💀💀
I know nothing about dead by daylight and from his POV it's pretty obvious he was just trying to pick them up. They got salty they were getting steamrolled lol
Dead By Daylight players try not to be racist whenever they have a small inconvenience (challenge impossible)
@@px2a dbd has an insane learning curve. only game i know that requires several hundred hours for people to consider a player "decent"
Not Ann's apology giving ukulele girl apology vibe, wtf lmao 😭😭
I still don’t see why she didn’t just apologize like a normal human being.
As a native french speaker (belgian) I can confirm that Anntan is bullshiting.
First and foremost I find it hilarious that there is a massive error in the one sentence that is in French (supposedly her birth language).
About the "blondinet riche" : nobody uses it in that way and no one would ever translate this in "white man with privileged". "Blondinet can be used in a playful way but if you speak to someone you don't know (especially with her tone) it is probably trying to be slightly insulting (like calling someone "cute" in an argument, the word isn't bad but you get the meaning pretty well).
I have never heard the mix "blondinet riche" as an expression and I have met and worked with a lot of French persons. There is an expression "le blond" that come from a famous French comedy sketch wich refers to a rich blond guy who does everything perfectly effortlessly. It's more used to joke about yourself, like "le blond" would have done this .. while you failed or struggled epicly.
Either way, even if she was trying to refer to this, it refers more to the cliche of the rich families from Paris that goes to pricey private schools and act superior (it is a really specific look that you can quit often see in French comedy movies). And let's be honest, he doesn't even look one bit as this cliche.
Thanks for reading this long long post, hope I helped a bit. Thanks Mujin for your great videos
im belgian too and yea what they were saying was BIG bs, embarrassing ngl
French girl here (Parisian). I agree with everything you said. I've never heard the expression 'blondinet riche' in my entire life. 'Blondinet' alone, sure... it would be the equivalent of 'blondie' in English, with cute and flirty undertones (often used affectionately or playfully). But used in a context of obvious animosity like in the clip, it's totally different. For people with no notion of the French language, don't let her fool you... she's speaking nonsense. She's also very fluent in English. Pulling the second-language card is not very convincing when the girl speaks almost like a native English speaker during the collab.
Fr*nch!
To me the crazy thing is them attacking this man because of how he looks but they hide behind their vtuber avatars. Like that’s coward shit right there
Real
They are a mirror of negativity towards anything better or healthier them ..which is alot of people
Its cause a lot of vtuber fans are loli sympathizers. Why do you think majority of the popular vtubers use children models? Its cause they're 20+year old women and cant emulate the look of a child IRL. Of course not all vtuber fans like Lolicon but its too big of an elephant to not acknowledge it.
They also attacked him for how he talks. While attacking him for how he talks she can barely get though the sentence
You sound like a guy I know with your last sentence lol
Vtubers making fun of people for physical attributes is hilarious. YOU PAID FOR A 2D AVATAR
Yeah, let them show how you REALLY look like instead of hiding behind your avatar. I know she is a white girl, acting Asian and is 400 pounds that no one will f*ck.
Honestly. I have a shark model because the real me looks like Gollum with hair. Imagine Gollum with hair telling you you’re ugly.
THIS💀
Side note: Can we stop using "banned" to describe someone losing access to their account temporarily? That's not a ban, that's a suspension.
Nope it's called a temp ban a suspension would be them being able to still use their account in someway
@synister9059 No.... just no.
Temp bans are synonymous with suspensions. In no game have I ever heard of using your account during a suspension.
Shadow bans are the only thing even close to that type of punishment.
@synister9059 Do you get a little burst of ego when you're confidently wrong?
@@synister9059 It what world of definition does suspension equal "still some access"? You made that up. Suspension is a temporary ban. Like when you were younger and the bad kids got suspended/suspension. They were banned from school entirely until a further date. You're talking about restrictions or limits.
@@madmike171 Twitter,FB,IG,YT,all online games has suspensions there are post suspension where you can still scroll & message people but can't like nor post anything up & there are message suspensions where you can scroll through & post stuff up but can't send messages to anyone & for online games they have message & voice suspension where you can still play but can't talk to others maybe you should do your research before yappin about school suspensions
I was trying to find something to watch while eat for so long thank you for uploading🙇♂️
oh dude, glad that you made it, how many hours you had to endure without food?
@ditrypand8273 bro you have no idea it felt like decades
me too I enjoy these kind of videos while I eat😂
@@ditrypand8273nah fr, it’s impossible for me to eat without youtube
imma have a ramyeon with steamed whole chicken thighs while watching this
Neither she nor her friends ever mention this but I heard directly from Napnide and his mods on one of his streams that the same night they harassed him on stream the two twitch partners viewers/chat (not sure if they did themselves) invaded and hate raided his discord server. He literally had to private his server because they kept joining and harassing. The fact they either incentivized or did not stop or even condemn a HATE RAID in his server is infuriating- especially because Napnide is such a sweetheart and did absolutely nothing to deserve this. I’m glad he’s getting more recognition because his content is amazing, I joined to show my support but ended up staying after 5 hours in his 15 hr stream because I enjoyed it so much.
I had a server i was active in hate raided by a big streamer. We were a small league of legends coaching server, the average coach only charged people like five to ten bucks per session. And the average session could last hours, we were mostly new player focused. And some big "lol coach" thought we had no right to teach new players and sent his entire army to hate rade our server.
What made it so hypocritical is the fact the same dude who raided our server charges literally hundreds of dollars just for a 1 hour session
@@phantomgg7790 can u share the discord link? I wanna learn LOL too as a Briar JG OTP. ❤
"Don't harass the person" after doing that yourself 😂
4:01 it wasn't racist I just decided my opinion about his character based solely on his appearance
Agreed, at best it’s racial prejudice
white privilege does exist, this sort of insulting and harassing happens to POC creators daily and it is unfair that this dude immediately has people on his side while poc creators get told off that it’s just a joke and they should stop being sensitive.. so yes this situation is white privilege i’m not defending them fyi
@@luvrboyhalo You are not well...
@@luvrboyhaloif stupid was in the Olympics you would have won gold. You fighting demons that don’t exist and make up situations to suit your foolish narrative and victim complex seek help and think for yourself for once in your life😊
@@luvrboyhaloStill, on either side, harassment is not okay
I’m poc. I hate how normalized it’s become to immediately make fun of someone if they’re white. On a anon account I used to have I got harassed and called white for a year until I literally had to post a skin reveal and they never bothered me again. Some even groveled. It’s so refreshing hearing Mujin laugh at how ridiculous ALL skin discrimination is.
@@heavensfayeracism against white are are at an extreme now. Or are you just saying it doesn’t happen? I don’t see whites going around stabbing, robbing. And other stuff based on race.
@@heavensfaye i mean, they did harass him on the basis of his race, no? that's, like, the definition of racism.
I get what you're trying to say, but racism is racism regardless of the victim or perpetrator. White people can be racist towards others, black people can be racist towards black people. Sometimes people are so spiteful or self-hating that they are prejudiced against the label that could or does define them. While not racism, a good example of that kind of behavior is how some gay and lesbian people claim bixesual isn't a thing or otherwise discriminate against them.
It very well could also be misandry as well though, sometimes people are hateful to more than one subset of humans
I mean it’s normalized both ways have you seen twitter recently?
21:53 Bro waited his whole UA-cam career for that one moment
Lmao yeah. The fact that she tried to defend herself with French only for Mujin to see through her bs is hilarious
Real bro🤣🤣🤣
"I didn't know I was being racist"
"I didn't know it was a slur"
"I didn't mean to harass"
They are completely missing the point, imo. Someone who had only the best of intentions, someone who wasn't TRYING to be mean to/harass someone, someone who wasn't salty over a stupid videogame and was trying to make it someone else's problem, doesn't need to know whether or not they are doing those things. You have to go out of your way to be mean. It costs nothing to be nice... and they went out of their way, and said some very unflattering things in some very unflattering ways. At that point, it probably wouldn't have mattered exactly what they said, they were doomed to say something bad, one way or another... but they are so caught up on the specifics that it took them forever to apologize, and even when they did, they couldn't do it appropriately.
*Bullies are never deserving of any respect.*
Well besides tectone
Most are garbage. Only one bully of mine actually apologized to me during highschool. I do think he meant it because we had a random encounter when he did apologize.
@@koriharpoon3357 people can change, if they so choose to. We our only in control of ourselves
@@MelRetroIndeed.
@@Datkblack lmao 💀
"As I've been sick for the past week and just has been released from the hospital today I find I have to speak about events publicly." Rather privileged to be able to afford hospital trips, buster.
Im clearly certain that they are living in Québec, we get free hospital at the cost of eternal wait LOL, but they are just cringe, hiding behind a avatar is total cowardise to my opinion.
Clearly got sick with having to accept responsibility for the first time ever
"I can feel your pain we have similar wounds" (or something like that)
This gives villain speech of "You and I are not so different" and I can't help but laugh my ass off
You and I are not so different, Spiderman
I hate when people say "Wow of course a white man look at all that privilege" like why what did I do
They probably think that white men just don't have problems in life because they don't want to think of them as normal human beings. They just want something they can pin their problems on because they are taught that white people caused it somehow.
As a DBD player with enormous 7K hour count I have to say DBD is probably one of the most toxic communities I had to be a part of where winning is considered Bad Manners.
But despite watching SpooknJukes content I somehow missed this entire situation?
Honestly, at this point you're my main news channel even about game communities I'm part of but never considered you'd be making videos about.
No, like, really, I subbed for Genshin and now we're somehow touching my favorite Dead By Daylight subject because of VTubers? How does this even happen, haha.
DBD? dungeons 🅱️and dragons?
these types of games are literally designed for people to rage at
@@hasanmuttaqin464 Dead By Deadlight, horror survival game about people fixing generators and evading horror villain characters
The problem is Behavour Interactive makes absolutely zero effort to moderate their own user base. This has always been a big problem with the company. They hire one or two people as community team staff... that's it. The developers are expected to do double duty as game devs and baby sitters for the players (this negatively impacted Eternal Crusade), the DBD devs however, decided, screw that, so they don't bother doing anything. The only place DBD has any degree of order is the official Discord server which is monitored by unpaid volunteers from Reddit. bE is a tryhard company who underpays staff and overreaches in ambition while cost cutting so they can cosplay at being AAA with a AA budget. They operate like it is still 2004, game doesn't even have any anti-harrassment features and bH does nothing to put toxic streamers to task, leaving it up to others to do so instead. Compare this to Square Enix who will punish someone in game for their negative behaviour on a streaming site while playing their games, worlds apart on terms of trying to discouage toxicity.
@@jason-qc5lryeah I mean you can rage without yelling about people’s race and viewer count though
Muujin speaking French was not only a jumpscare, but it got me over here like 😳🫣💕👉👈
Right?? Like okay I see gurl 😳
Bruh french is easy peasy, yk english copy 30% into french and you got 30% of it's vocab. Then just learn some basic terms.
@@AlwaysThirstys Intriguing!
@@AlwaysThirstysinteresting, but don’t shit on the fact that speaking two different languages fluently, and whenever they want at will, is impressive.
@@AlwaysThirstys no it's not easy. Grammar is super F up.
Least toxic DBD beef:
With how many vids spooknjukes comes out with its true.
its so sad that youre correct with this statement lmao
The moment I heard dbd ik it's gonna be war crime 😭
one reason i don't play some pvp games
@@kingtaetae110right😭😭
Dude he’s thriving now. 12k followers and he has some banger streams. Rare W for the good guy over the bully’s
What i found off with Ann's apology was that she first apologised to her community, which was not hurt or anything the like. Secondly, she said that she has trauma from racism but reduced a person to only their skin colour and made jokes about it... that is racism.
I dont know her ethnic background, but just because she might be not white, does not make racism in any form ok. Sadly, often enough the abused becomes the abuser, like her.
I think she's Japanese due to her accent and her name, especially the kanji, idk though cuz I didn't do any research on her.
@@user-rh1vv3jg1gDidn't she say in her apology in the video at 23:19 that she's African?
@@user-rh1vv3jg1g French African so Somewhere like Mali, cameroon, Chad, Nijeher, Ivory Coast, Senegal, North Congo etc etc etc
@@SombreroGatoafrican cant be french
@@einfachignorieren6156 not true at all lol. many parts of africa were colonized by france, including some of the places the prior commenter posted. there is more french influence in these areas due to colonization. you should look it up, because colonization is awful and denying its occurrence is kind of rancid. it fucked up a lot of different african countries' politics, economics, and society because they were brutalized by the french, as they were by other colonial nations as well that im sure youve heard of, like united states and the uk.
yeah i also forgot to share the list of all the countries in africa that speak french, according to google: "French is the official language in Benin, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cameroon, the Central African Republic, Chad, Comoros, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Congo, the Côte d'Ivoire, Djibouti, Gabon, Guinea, Madagascar, Mali, Niger, Rwanda, Senegal, the Seychelles, and Togo." (from guides.loc.gov). I used to work at a family business where they were majority morrocan and tunisian, two north african countries, and they spoke french as well as farsi.
These two Vtubers are just an example of the saying "think before you act" :)
Most people nowadays act before they think. Lucky I was raised to think before I act
@@itzmeyaho8092 even I wouldn't dare to self proclaim like that
@@gerardwolf8507 I mean..excuse me if I sound prideful. But I see a lot of people nowadays being that way
@@itzmeyaho8092 same fr
@@itzmeyaho8092 common sense isn't common anymore
everytime i see new drama on my twitter feed i kick my feet in joy
Real
Sad
Cause the big man himself has a high chance of covering it😂
Sounds miserable ngl
ban total deserves
both apologies _scream_ delusional narcissist with a victim complex... id est, *"sociopathy."*
18:17 close enough! Thank you ChatGPT for writing this apology!!
LOL
Immediately what I thought too. The amount of buzzwords in this is far too many for it to seem like a real person. And if her primary language isn’t English, there’s no way she could write that comprehensively, even with a translator.
i was looking for this comment lmaoo
Yup, definitely a bullshit apology 💯lol
@@PanAndProudI don't disagree with your primary point, but there's plenty of people with native languages other than English who are able to speak and write it very fluently. No need to assume they're incapable of the same level of writing quality as a native speaker.
The french "apology" is something. English is my second language, but just like her, im fluent in english...and her being that fluent can understand how much racially profiled her comment wasp
English is my first language and I have taken offense to people for statements they made when it was not THEIR main language.
Difference being that their TONE was a lot more harsh/short than intended, and once they explained themselves a little more it was immediately resolved, because the statement itself wasn't in bad faith, it was just a bad choice of words to express it.
Someone who's innocent would clarify their position in good faith and the mistake would be evident. When you say something directly and overtly malicious, there is no such leniency, which is why all she can do is deflect and deny she said anything.
Can you explain a bit more? Like if i apologize to someone in English instead of my native language, its disrespectful?
@@whoknows-oz6cy no
She is fluent enough in english to be talking like that, in addition to branding herself as an ENVtuber (ergo having high enough fluency to not only speak english in a formal manner- like school taught english- yet also being in a community where english is the main language (the internet community where english expressions, syntaxes etc etc etc are mainly being used). She does not have problems or need to think when talking in english, even using tones and rhythm in her speaking. Furthermore, VTubing is a job mainly connected to the internet. (Edit starts because i forgot to elaborate). Of course there are many communities and languages circulating the internet, but the main ones revolves around English. For someone who made it their professionalism, they have to scour many parts of the internets, learning expressions, and even talk with natives... So its unlikely for her to be incapable of understanding beyond the wordings (edit end)
With the context in mind, its unlikely for her not understanding the semblance of her wordings. The addition of "*of course* its a white man..." Shows her disdain.
@@whoknows-oz6cy If you're talking to me, then no, that isn't what I'm saying. Actually THIS right here is what I'm talking about lol
English is very context sensitive and things like tone do not translate well over text, add in a language barrier and it's even worse.
Sarcasm is basically an entire genre of making innocent statements sound obnoxious and insulting by simply altering the tone of voice, it isn't difficult for an innocent statement to come across the wrong way.
Such misunderstandings are easily resolved by simply asking why they are taking offense, and then correcting them if what they repeat back to you is not what you intended to say.
If it really is a genuine mistake, it should be rather obvious once you add more context. Some people are just very sensitive and read extra meaning out of a statement that isn't there, it's just part of being human.
Mujin: [speaks fluent French]
Me: O.O
Same, I’m glad someone else commented on it too LOL
He has a couple of vids where he speaks fluent French!! I think its the one where he talks about Fontainians special dish
Me too! I was napping a little and my head shot up WHO THIS???
French girl here. Yes, I was surprised as well, and his accent is very nice for a native English speaker.
Nicest survivor after getting Nurse for the 8 billionth time in a row:
Will you be safe of controversy?? I mean.. Look at your channel.. The irony will be the best of drama.. Do it for dramatic effect please
THE MUJIN CONTROVERSY IS INSANE 🗣🗣🗣
This Mujin situation is crazy
@@KhezuOnYourScreen HE is done!
The controversy he's gonna be in, is about redeem channel. MUJIN! GIVE ME BACK MY CHANNEL POINTS!! I'LL WILL THE RACE SO GIVE ME BACK THE CHANNEL POINTS!
Ilovemujin,jk
Mujin is finna be canceled with this one 😔
Literally caught in 4k and shes like, "nah, that's not something i would do.🤷♀"
They always always always bring up saying, "Im in a hospital" "Ive been sick for awhile" and "my mental health...blah blah blah"
What illness have they caught?? Accountability?? Lol
it's because they see the reaction when it happens to the people who really are suffering problems, and in their attention seeking, modern female brains think "I want attention geeb geeb nao grown baby woman want attention!" etc etc :/... just more downward spiraling of society when we have fed these narcissists. Ya wanna know the truely, horrific, scary and disgusting thing? She will still have a bunch of slobering simps / companies feed her money.
Don’tcha know? Narcissists have a lethal allergy to accountability
I like that they start by expressing annoyance at the community for them having to deal with it during their 'unlucky' sickness.
@@glitchyboi-nk1qv nah, not this again. I AM a narcissist.
They are just douchebags with golden spoon.
Hang on a minute... 17:50 , English isn't first language..But somehow she can perfectly say the words "priviledged young white male" holy shit she's cooked.
28:44 that’s heartwarming to know he is gaining more and more followers after getting follower shammed, I wish him the best. I am going to follow him as well even though I don’t watch streams or use twitch
Please don't, if he doesn't have active watchers he'll probably be shamed for follower botting/buying.
@@RinsDesknah, people know the situation. Follow the guy and support em. Forget what the other folks say
I genuinely love how female vtubers are calling someone privileged. Legitimately, to make it to where they are is an extremely privileged position, and they ruined it by racism.
Also Anntan also defended herself in the clip saying she wasn't being racist. She absolutely knew what she was saying.
"It's not racist if it's an acceptable target, which is NOT a racist notion"
I mean, you can be absolutely vile to Whites because they're the acceptable target - if this had been a black streamer then Twitch would have burned and there would have been legislators talking about how they need spaces to destroy because of racism.
It's time to start pulling out pages from the playbook - if one group is allowed to go absolute babirusa over racial incidents, why aren't others?
@@leiderhosen7110that's not at all what anntan was saying in her apology, she instead had some bullshit excuse about language
@avalokiteshvara113 op and replier were referring to the clip not her apology
Gaslight, gatekeep, girlboss, guilt trip and blame your friends.
I may not like live streams, but watching highlights of vtubers is enjoyable; learning about people like these 2 kind of shatters the fantasy of what vtubers tend to be: light-hearted performers to unwind with their antics.
21:53 bro pulled out the most flawless-sounding french out of nowhere 💀
He's french, no?..
@@Sfhjgds he's not french, he just lives in the country 24:18
@@Gibinhafilho yeah I commented this from impulse just as i heard it
He has a slight accent but it's very good for someone who hasn't been born there.
I love how people like this justify that you can be racist to white people since they are white. Just be kind to everyone and treat them all the way you want them to treat you. Glad more people are waking up to this hypocrisy. Actually happy to see the streamer blew up after this as well LuL.
@Kirlgisermoni get your dumbass out of here
@Kirlgisermoniyou can be racist to White people. Racism: To treat someone differently (almost always worse) based on their appearence, ethnicity or place of birth. Pretty Universal definition.
@Kirlgisermoni white ppl aren't the majority in most non-western countries lol. yes u can be racist to white ppl and the fact you don't believe this implies 1) ur American or 2) ur a kid. none of what they said about napnide was justified.
Exactly I'm black and it's mind boggling to me that people think white people are immune to racism simply because they're white, it's idiotic and people who believe that clearly don't know what racism is 🤡
hiya, so finnish person here (napnide is finnish) and what is ironic is that finnish people have went years of colonization and slavery, especially in karjala. so people being racist to my people and minimalizing it down to 'a white guy' is very, VERY offensive to me and other finnish people i'd expect.
apology not forgiven
Americans when they learn where the word 'slave' came from: 😮
They also magically forget Africans and muslims started to take slaves from and colonize Europe 700 years before Europeans did it to them.
Hypocrite losers.
@@pancake1751 im not american im confused what does this answer mean 😭
@@Snuquli the word slave originates from the people group known as 'Slavs'. Basically poles, russians and ukrainians are some of the people from this group.
Due to historically being a region with weak kingdoms or tribes they where very populor to kidnap and turn into slaves.
If any info i have said from the top of my head is wrong feel free to corect me.
I know so very little about history from that part of the world, that I had to google about this.
“Send the clip”
“I’m closing the tab”
-_-
The fact that Anntan didn't bother to double check the only sentence in french she wrote and managed to make a mistake + the other fact that "blondinet" doesn't translate to white guy in any capacity and that she searched for a way weasle out of the situation made me chuckle :') If you can't insult ppl in a language you are not familiar with without being racist, I think you should kinda give up on the idea of being a D while streaming
I haven’t watched the vid but why would she apologize in French if she ain’t French?
@@aR0ttenBANANA she's ethnically a Moroccan-Swiss.
Make a guess which country she was born and raised in; however I'd still call point at her the same way I look at Amandala; she's still half white. And people really need to drop that "African" descriptor cause it means jack as the continent is not a homogeneous culture.
I wouldn't put it past Morrocan's saying they do not claim her since she has that typical Western viewpoint; in the same way I've seen Latinos and Africans say they want nothing to do with people from Europe, Canada or USA claiming solidarity with them just on skin tone alone.
I can't even think up of a way to say "white guy" in French, except the literal translation, "mec blanc" or "un blanc".
Even while trying to dance around the issue she still make it racist. Furthermore, her tone was spiteful and filled with disdain so you can also forget her "it's said playfully".
@@strategicperson95 ah yeah, that explains it. Kinda cringe that she plays the “white privilege” card on the other dude when she probably uses that on the daily for her own benefit.
21:53 timestamp for Mujin's French. Didn't understand a word (I don't know the language), but it sounds beautiful.
Forgot that Mujin knows french and got jumpscared again
I didn't know he knew French when did he when did he ever saw his ability to speak French am I missing something here
@@anthonypalos3244 Mujin mentioned in a few videos he lives in France.
my mouth opened WIDE when i heard him start speaking in french where'd it come from 😭😭
I read this comment after watching the video and I'm glad people were as surprised as me 😭
This video was hilarious, was linked to me by a friend of mine😂
Subscribed immediatelly!
I have been avoiding watching most of these videos about the situation but this genuinely made me almost tear up (both from being funny as well as very kind).
All the love,
Nap
Top top video. Only what could've made it better was if I had not ever heard of the situtation. Outstanding job gahahah much love
Hey man, is that actually you? Much love and support for you despite this drama. Hopefully you're doing great at your end ❤
Hope the situation isn't too hard on you
And congrats on all of the new attention heading your way! ❤
I'm glad the consequences happened and that a lot of people are holding those vtubers accountable or making it clear they're not accepting their insincerity. I hope you've gotten a lot of support or will get a lot and that things will get better for you.
The fact this all happened over a DBD match is insane to me.
0:13 - That amount of chin should be downright ILLEGAL
😂
Here comes the Crimson Chin!!!
"in french there is a more playfull term, blondinet"
i feel like the actual term translated would be "blondie", and that literally has the same meaning as the french one, but it's definitely different from "priviledged white guy" or whatever she called the dude
I swear you should just start making "Daily dose of vtuber drama" This is a whole cornfield that can grow anything.
Unexpected to be running into you here.
The switch up at the end is crazy 👀
Hassing a streamer if your streaming is the lowest of the lowest
That low to the point you make someone else look good
Punching down is never a good look
Its the equivalent of wrongfully copyright striking another youtubers video. Unspoken rules of the game, man, you just don't do it
As a person who’s working on making her own VTuber, s**t like this makes me extremely reluctant to actually engage with the community
Same there so many good v tubers and yet this two is the top example why no one takes it seriously
@@Jokuthesaiyangod Definitely and there are one too many high-level indie AND agency VTubers out there just saying completely racist nonsense like its the norm. The community is just way too comfortable spewing garbage
@@Jokuthesaiyangod I agree with you two, it's sad how bad apples in any community are always louder and make everyone look a little worse. I'd say that influence is pretty understated and should be adressed more.
@@PerfectOxygen you are completely right
@@PerfectOxygenmhm
“We act a certain way when our past drama is trig-“
NO, NO, NO… we all know where this is going…
Can't wait for "if we didn't do that then Napnide wouldn't have gotten those followers, we helped him"
Mujin being Vtuber/Streamer Police is a career trajectory neither he nor his parents could imagine 10 years prior lol.
The two vtubers made it sound like they had no choice but to go to the guy's stream and make fun of him. There're plenty of choices: get better at the game, leave the game, ask him to go easy on them next time, Leave The Game, go take a walk, close the tab, switch to a new game, Leave, etc. But no, they had to harass a guy who was playing a game he enjoyed, respected yall's gameplay, and thought that he could relax the rest of the night without worrying until four strangers decided "hmm no". Great video. Community notes went for the throat this time around
Man not having twitter is consistently being the best decision I have ever made with my life istg
Real
frrr
"I never sent anyone to target the said individual"
It seriously seems like the last people to realise when someone is getting bullied are the people *_doing_* the bullying
Boy oh boy another day another good video
6:14 as a DBD player, this is a dysync moment, happens a lot in matches where you down someone is one spot and they teleport to another, entirely due to ping. Its easy to tell when it happens and idk how anyone could think thats humping
Any multiplayer, er, player can tell. You misconstrue it as an offense when you're spoiled, salty and hungry for excuses to assuage your ego and to bully.
@@saphojuiced6243 I mean they clearly couldn’t tell considering tell considering they called it humping initially and is the whole reason this drama started, and I didn’t know sharing an obvious fact and then giving an opinion is me being “hungry for excuses to assuage my ego and to bully” but go off I guess
@@Frallicus They are referring to the streamers, not you
@@IMikalottafriends I hope so. Feel they worded it awfully and it came off as very direct
@@Frallicus ESL, I assume. Yes, I obviously meant them. My use of the second person is basic figurative rhetoric. Even if you don't know that, it's easy to tell by the context who I meant.
Also, we don't know that they genuinely thought he was "humping." Could've well been an act. Or they might've fooled themselves, because, that's what they wanted it to be. My first reply covers both possibilities.
THE FRENCH PRONONCIATION IS INSANEEEEEEE (Saying this as a french person)
Not them calling him sonething along the lines of "prepubescent boy" ma'am have you seen the avatar you use thats a sizable chunk of your audience 😭
As a French guy, absolutely nobody say "Un blondinet riche" over there
I'm a Quebecan, and no one says that over here either.
21:53 ok dropping the french on us. hit me like a bus
Ikr, it didnt have to be that good lol
Community notes are fantastic it's like having a pocket inquisition on demand.
Her apology was definitely not written by herself, the differences in the way she "talks(types)" is so vastly different. Not only that, theirs so many more upper management phrases used.
also not the least bit surprised that Baebub started throwing her friends under the bus in her "apology". very much the time "My friends said these things and I should have stopped them" yeah some friend you are.
This is what gets me. Both apologies weren't great but Bub's is on another level of bad. Just immediately throwing her friends under the bus, no introspection, and no accountability.
Your giggles are the cherry on top of these videos tbh 😂
Also that French caught me off guard omg
The mockingly tone Mujin reads out the apologies are just "French kiss" 💋😂😂😂
The Internet does not forget, those 2 will likely never gain that trust ever again.