I was recently sat in a Ford dealer waiting area and all everyone was talking about was the Ecoboost problems. Seems Ford will be losing a lot of customers over this.
@@red9zero they won't care it's all going to shit for manufacturers EV no one wants government wants car production ice stopped going to kill the industry..
This wet cam engine design is a disgrace, not the first time for poor design and not just Ford. Used cars nowadays are getting as risky as wnen cut and shuts and zip in the roofs were in circulation. To an unsuspecting used purchaser and even to the trade a huge financial risk. I had great fun in the old days, I've seen a px jag with big end journals packed with brown wrapping paper, a Beetle with a can lid pop riveted over a hole in a piston, pressure hose breaching corroded brake pipes and many more in the swinging sixties, the icing on the cake was working for a British Leyland main distributor in the days of Red Robbo and Michael Edwards. They were NOT the good old days! You make Interesting posts and seem very honest, keep it up and live to a happy retirement!
So a three cylinder ' I go bang' engine, dirty oil no service history for 6 years? and it needs a belt or rather two belts to include the oil pump, that thing is scrap surely. Unless it was bought for £50.00 ?
There are no bad products,only bad prices. Ecoboom/Puretech is absolutely fine if you understand they are high maintenance blocks and price accordingly when you/if you decide to buy. Certainly lots of folks not in the industry don't have a clue,and are hoping for top dollar. Yes there are specialist wetbelt companies that can do fords at £650/ PSA for £450. That's what I've just done, and I bought a 66 plate 1.0 ecoboom for £1750.All in all with servicing costs that's a fair price. I'd have loved a yaris /auris/corolla hybrid but they cost 3 times as much,and I don't have that sort of money.
The compressor pulley on that Yaris would be free but when you press the aircon button this activates the electro-mechanical clutch to engage the drive on the compressor, you may then find it is seized , hence the missing belt.
£850 wet belt changes on these Fiestas. Change the oil regularly with 5-20w oil like every year / 6k miles, service them, run on 97octane fuel and they are cracking little cars.
I can confirm that. My local village garage advises an EcoBoost belt change at around 80k miles, and charges £300 to £400 less than the official Ford estimate of 14 hours labour plus parts.....
It requires special tools that's why garages have been cashing in and gouging. I've had a couple of 1.0 ecoboosts and I've found them fantastic. But then I buy well and look after them.
Ive been driving convertibles for 20 years now 12 in that time and the roofs aren't anything like they used to be so quiet and refined inside. I've always found that a convertable is like having 2 totally different cars theres nothing like having the roof down in the summer at all.
I'd avoid (and do) the eco boost fiestas, plenty of cars about that don't blow up, dropping the sump and cleaning the strainer is too late as the belts had it, only good thing about having a look is hopefully it's got a new one on. I'd deffo not find customers who'll be willing to pay for a belt, or part pay, they want it all sorted in the price, I'd have passed on both cars tbh.
Had my 2017 Focus ST2 2.0 Ecoboost engine go bang on me in early 2022, leading to a fault claim on insurance after it spewed oil across the dual carriageway (with no hard shoulder at 11PM at night). Police came across me within 15 minutes and called national highways who cleared up the oil then claimed on my insurance for doing so.... 1st fault claim. Car engine was knackered and insurance wouldn't pay out, was worth around £10k-£12k at the time and ended up selling it to copart for £4k as a non-runner... took a huge loss. Mechanic reckoned the engine had thrown a rod, and when he came to inspect it, he said there was a large hole in the top of the engine block and more outside of the engine than was in it. 13 months later, 4 months after getting my new car, parked outside my house, bang, car was hit by a delivery driver in a rental van who never stopped and left details, simply drove off. Not traced thanks to no reg being captured so guess what? Yes - that's right, another fault claim! As a result my insurance went from £1,500 to £4,500 after almost 12 years on the road with a clean license, and having achieved pass plus exceeded grade a month after passing my test.
@@CarlosFandango1975 yes you can see it, tbh if you've gone that far unless belt is recent I'd carry on and replace, it's a good selling point, unfortunately it means the cars got to come cheap to allow for it.
@@CarlosFandango1975 belts supposed to have an oil resistant coating so it doesn't degrade, that's why it's got to be the proper oil, that's the theory anyway.
Show the full roof mechanism working. It’s a brilliant bit of engineering. Keep an eye out for the little flaps that come out at the back of the cabin. Nerdy but sweet. It’s a thing of beauty 😊
The problem with the eco booms 💥 is not just the wet belt to get them to go you have to thrash the engine and so after a few years the engines are trashed
with the EOS when they leak they stink of damp. but a dry stored car that comes out when the suns out will not be the same as a car that lives outside and that car looks very clean 👍👍
Sign of a blocked oil pump strainer, oil light takes a while to go out when you first start the car, also the light can flicker at tick over . At that point the engine might be screwed already .
Just avoid EcoBoost engines and Puretech engines. With the Yaris, could you not keep it as a courtesy car if you need one? Just fix the air con, wash it, clean inside, and then you run it into the ground? Surprised the gold A class hasn't sold yet, it is a really nice car and colour. Great video, have a good week, James.
Very reliable ubiquitous engine. Renault R@D most defiantly did their homework with that little gem giving a smooth delivery with just the power ratio 👍
I've had 3 EOS's since 2007 - all 2.0l diesels. My last was on a 13 plate and when I finally sold it a year ago it had nearly 190,000 miles on it. Great cars, and no problems with the roof (they all had the sunroof). BUT - you have to make sure the seals are lubricated 3 or 4 times a year!
Some cars entice you, make you want to get in & drive. Others are dull & are just a means of getting from a to b. But that Yaris was miserable 😂 looked like it had the plague, almost shouted get in me if you dare 🤣
no they dont such cars like 207 is chain or belt depending on engine but they only started doing wet belt when they made 208 and fiat don't make wet belt engines
Got a 2011 Merida , new water pump and lower wishbones usual brake pads and tyres four discs 104400 miles runs sweet. First car viva estate usual tyres, shock absorbers ,springs , water pump leaks all over plus rust new wings five exhausts recon engine and gearbox at 95000 , off the road at 105000 miles due to everything decomposing. Phil.
the 6 speed yaris has a different engine , main difference lower emissions (gets in into the £35 tax) also concentric clutch slave. I think they went to analogue dash at the same time. The 5 speeds feel better IMO.
@@ChopsGarage that’s just crazy! I wouldn’t pay that and I don’t know anyone who would, when and why have they gone up in value? I only deal in high end stuff myself and can tell you the margins aren’t great in that but I wouldn’t consider junkers like that personally.
Fiesta values will do OK they are good cars and with the number of small non hybrid cars on offer shrinking there will be a steady demand for them, not like your Corsas etc. are super reliable.
The be,t is recommended to change at 10 years, the Fiesta is 10 years old. I wouldn’t pay to have it swapped when you know it needs doing. The fact it’s expensive was a reason not to buy it in the first place. If someone buys that car and the belt makes the Big Bang, you will on the hook for ignoring the Ford advice which will cost you more than a new belt. As for the VAT, you will claim back £200 on the £1000 spent on repairs so you don’t lose out!
£3k is not bad value for that Yaris, it's just up to whoever buys it if he wants the air-con done. The Yaris is straight, it would come up really nice after a cut and polish, and after the alloys have been decontaminated.
James: "These DSG gearboxes are incredible" maybe, until they either: 1. Entirely shite themselves, that'll be £5K for a new box ta (OR) 2. The clutch packs where out and because the clutch is part of the gearbox (unlike a manual gearbox), that'll be a professional gearbox rebuild ...yeah, I can't imagine why anyone that OWNS a car might choose a manual gearbox...🤦♂
There no logic in all these comments about what COULD go wrong with certain components on cars. You will simply never buy anything other than a Hyundai i10 or in fact just not own a car at all!
@@ChopsGarage A clutch pack on a dual clutch box is a wear & tear item though and given the cost involved, most people would, quite rationally, want to avoid that, esp on an older car of low value.
1.25 is a extremely reliable engine, it's in use day and night and covering 13,000 miles per year without a single failure. They can be economical too, I can get 380 miles out of it
I had a 1.25 3 door Fiesta. Couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding. My 1.1 Seicento has a much pokier lump. Fiesta had now gone & I have a 595 Abarth Turismo, which has many more smiles per mile.
I had a fiesta 1.25 for 6 years. Reliable car. Apart from the front springs. An door switch on the back door. Only other fault was the indicator switch.
If any debris in Fiesta Ecoboost oil pick up as mentioned it’s already too late and belt degrading and dying and in need of change. You should clean oil pick along with belt change too. Any and I mean any debris in pick up it’s new belt or write engine off.
@@richardsmeeton8910 I don't know anything that runs a wet auxiliary belt; not sure that would work. They still have a wet oil pump belt, but generally they are not a problem on the Eco-boost.
I have a 2015 Fiesta Ecoboost 1.0 in Zetec trim. I bought it from a main dealer in 2017 with 7500 miles on the clock. In 2018 a few months before the Ford warranty ended the timing went. Engine light kept coming on then stayed on. Ford tried to mug me off but after much argument caved in and fitted a new belt under warranty. They told me the belt had probably failed due to previous poor servicing by Ford (make of that what you will). I change the oil ( 5-20W) regulary at 6000 mile intervals and only use premium unleaded fuel. At 31000 miles it's running well but I may go for a belt replacment ( both belts ) in the new year to be on the safe side. What I've saved in car tax ( the pre 2017 1.0 Ecoboost 99bhp Fiestas are zero car tax) over the past 7 years will cover most of the replacement cost of a new belt plus my car was pretty cheap to buy in the first place.
I've got 2013 1.5tdci fiesta had belt changed at 10 years, easier belt change compared with the eco boost,has now got 113000 milessmooth as silk nice engine and car.
VAT not sure your system works as "Value Added" should. The concept being you claim back the VAT spent on the inputs (purchase, upgrade/repair work/parts). Does your system work some other way? Are you unable to claim back the VAT on your inputs?
Where recon has a vat element you can claim it back. Scenario _ buy at 1k , sell at 3k spend 1k on prep. Net profit 1000. Pay VAT on 2k (400 to keep it simple) , reclaim £100 say on repairs that had vat element.
Just keep reducing the kia until sold, you might struggle with trade bids, probably don't buy anymore. That yaris sounded rough bud, unless it was the audio, popping could be a valve (?) your in a different world to me mate 3k on an 08 (!) this time of year everyone is checking air con I find, maybe put it to one side till November mate!
@@ChopsGarage it wouldnt value an 08 plate bud on auto trader, I'm just putting a 15 plate mint corsa up at 2995, got a mint 64 plate mii up with 45k on at just over 4k.
@@ChopsGarage James, it's a right dog, timing chain is noisy, interior is hammered, it's only an 07 plate with little test (?) you want to be paying not much more than scrap for it tbh, done up its 1295, try it on e Bay as you say and I bet it makes 800 quid. Your defiantly wearing your rose tinted glasses on that one bud, loved the cobweb under the bonnet by the way (!)
Ive just spent 5 hours changing the track control arms and track rod ends on a 2016 yaris and it was rotten as a pear underneath, advised customer to get get rid asap.
Hi James, another great video. Id double check the Wet belt freq with Ford as they have reduced the change on the 2.0Ltr from 10 years/140k miles to 6 years/100k miles. Pete Turnbridge Autos Ltd 0
if you buy and change the wingbon the fiesta look at a vid on the hidden nut behind qauter glass, open-ended spanner on it a couple turns (not to much) to take wing off, but fiddly, just had to change a white wing slso funny enough
Lot of risk with a Fox that hasn’t had a service for a few years. Would rather take one that’s been serviced every year with wrong oil that needs a belt than one that’s not been done for a few years. Best to avoid if poor history
Oh bless even jumping in on other people's comments too now so needy. 5 yrs in with an accountant signing books off odds of me not understanding vat....mmm lol!!! You have terrible logic
Yes where there was vat , sometimes there is not and not 100 percent of the margin is spent on vat so you will always end up paying healthy amount on every car. Let's face it HMRC is there to collect vat would not work if we simply cancelled it all out with claim back.
I'd never ever buy a Ecoboost in general let alone if the wet belt hasn't been replaced, why bother buying one to sell if u won't change the belt and that hasn't had a service in 6 years?
Eco boost engine, avoid. Wet belt system is crap. Apparently the beer models have a chain driven system instead of a belt. But what an absolute own goal by ford.
the 1.25 zetec engine is really good,but the emissions let it down and you're paying £200 extra a year on road tax,even more if you have to frequent the pesky CAZ zones.All adds up at the end of the day. cars built from 2012-2020 there is almost no escape from wetbelt! As I said before the aygo/C1/107 and the 1.8 prius/auris/corolla blocks are by far the best on the road,but boy do you pay a premium.
Been taking your brave pills taking that EcoBoom, at least if you keep the Fiesta a few months you'll have a few fireworks in time for Halloween or Guy Fawkes,
@@ChopsGarage Change the belt too pal. The reason the oil-strainer is blocked would be due to the belt shredding itself to minuscule pieces. If you just unblock the strainer the belt will probably break within six months. This is what happened to my wife’s and Ford let’s her go through all the warranty claim, and then rejected it due to it being a 14 plate and not a 64. They said it’s over 10 years old.
Good . They suffer from rear water leaks from several areas. Apart from that I had a 2014 1.6tdi bluemotion for 3 years with 100k on it and that was all I could say bad about it.
@@ChopsGarage pl automotive Epping, but far from you but there are specialists with the correct cam locking tooling and torque converters to get the crank pulley off that down them day in and day out. I’d sooner use one of them rather than a garage who might do one every now and then.
It seems to me that the most popular cars are often the worst for long term reliability, but then I came to the conclusion many years ago that people just love crap, no matter what the commodity!!
I like the older 1.4 Zetec Fiesta mk4. They sell so quickly, they are light on fuel, and go like s""t off a shovel. It's a pity that I lost my P reg Fiesta due to rust though.
@@ChopsGarage St up. On ramp bud, shake wheels, prod underneath, do a pre mot yourself, brake pipes, broken springs, you'll soon get the hang of it, see if a cheapie is worth going on with, only takes 15mins and saves you going down rabbit holes, cheaper stuff like that yaris, say short test is just above scrap price these days, I've just bought (and sold) civic, newer shape, 400 quid, 107 on an 07,same 425 quid, astra automatic on a 57,600 quid. Where I am cheapies rule (unfortunately).
@@ChopsGarage yeah your right, they are good for what they are, but why have a 1 litre petrol when a 1.5 diesel will be much better for your wallet over the lifetime of the vehicle, just my opinion but i think cheap saloons/sedans being replaced by hatchbacks as the entry level car has made them all a bit boring
Wet belts should be illegal
I am 89 and I am driving a 07 Fiesta 1.2 litre a nice little three door motor.
@@brianmarshall1637 watch the exhaust doesn't smoke, Starmer will have you arrested
I was recently sat in a Ford dealer waiting area and all everyone was talking about was the Ecoboost problems. Seems Ford will be losing a lot of customers over this.
Yeah wet belt problems , especially on the 1,0 engine
@@red9zero they won't care it's all going to shit for manufacturers EV no one wants government wants car production ice stopped going to kill the industry..
This wet cam engine design is a disgrace, not the first time for poor design and not just Ford. Used cars nowadays are getting as risky as wnen cut and shuts and zip in the roofs were in circulation. To an unsuspecting used purchaser and even to the trade a huge financial risk. I had great fun in the old days, I've seen a px jag with big end journals packed with brown wrapping paper, a Beetle with a can lid pop riveted over a hole in a piston, pressure hose breaching corroded brake pipes and many more in the swinging sixties, the icing on the cake was working for a British Leyland main distributor in the days of Red Robbo and Michael Edwards. They were NOT the good old days! You make Interesting posts and seem very honest, keep it up and live to a happy retirement!
Here in Somerset, around 40+ years ago we had a small dealer that was repairing rotted out chassis with concrete. He was jailed!
When you open a bonnet ad look in a Ford engine bay I always think , thank god I own a 508SW and not a Ford , so cheep a build .....cheep crap ....
So a three cylinder ' I go bang' engine, dirty oil no service history for 6 years? and it needs a belt or rather two belts to include the oil pump, that thing is scrap surely. Unless it was bought for £50.00 ?
@@TonyGray-bo4uy I can believe that. We had a MOT test station in Nottigham in the late sixties who issued "tickets" over the phone by return of post!
There are no bad products,only bad prices.
Ecoboom/Puretech is absolutely fine if you understand they are high maintenance blocks and price accordingly when you/if you decide to buy.
Certainly lots of folks not in the industry don't have a clue,and are hoping for top dollar.
Yes there are specialist wetbelt companies that can do fords at £650/ PSA for £450.
That's what I've just done, and I bought a 66 plate 1.0 ecoboom for £1750.All in all with servicing costs that's a fair price.
I'd have loved a yaris /auris/corolla hybrid but they cost 3 times as much,and I don't have that sort of money.
Peugeot Do Fixed Price Wet Belts for 500 quid as listed on the Peugeot UK Website
The engine in that Yaris sounds like a little canal boat puffing along 😂
Strange eh
@@ChopsGarageIs there even an airfilter on that engine?
😂class
Can confirm it's normal on that series of engines. I owned two older 1.0 Yaris very closely related engines, and they sounded the same.
The compressor pulley on that Yaris would be free but when you press the aircon button this activates the electro-mechanical clutch to engage the drive on the compressor, you may then find it is seized , hence the missing belt.
Cheers for tip
£850 wet belt changes on these Fiestas. Change the oil regularly with 5-20w oil like every year / 6k miles, service them, run on 97octane fuel and they are cracking little cars.
I can confirm that. My local village garage advises an EcoBoost belt change at around 80k miles, and charges £300 to £400 less than the official Ford estimate of 14 hours labour plus parts.....
You live in cuckoo land!
It requires special tools that's why garages have been cashing in and gouging. I've had a couple of 1.0 ecoboosts and I've found them fantastic. But then I buy well and look after them.
The 1.2 engined version of the Mk7 Fiesta is reliable - no wet belt or turbo..
Ive been driving convertibles for 20 years now 12 in that time and the roofs aren't anything like they used to be so quiet and refined inside. I've always found that a convertable is like having 2 totally different cars theres nothing like having the roof down in the summer at all.
I'd avoid (and do) the eco boost fiestas, plenty of cars about that don't blow up, dropping the sump and cleaning the strainer is too late as the belts had it, only good thing about having a look is hopefully it's got a new one on. I'd deffo not find customers who'll be willing to pay for a belt, or part pay, they want it all sorted in the price, I'd have passed on both cars tbh.
Had my 2017 Focus ST2 2.0 Ecoboost engine go bang on me in early 2022, leading to a fault claim on insurance after it spewed oil across the dual carriageway (with no hard shoulder at 11PM at night). Police came across me within 15 minutes and called national highways who cleared up the oil then claimed on my insurance for doing so.... 1st fault claim. Car engine was knackered and insurance wouldn't pay out, was worth around £10k-£12k at the time and ended up selling it to copart for £4k as a non-runner... took a huge loss. Mechanic reckoned the engine had thrown a rod, and when he came to inspect it, he said there was a large hole in the top of the engine block and more outside of the engine than was in it.
13 months later, 4 months after getting my new car, parked outside my house, bang, car was hit by a delivery driver in a rental van who never stopped and left details, simply drove off. Not traced thanks to no reg being captured so guess what? Yes - that's right, another fault claim!
As a result my insurance went from £1,500 to £4,500 after almost 12 years on the road with a clean license, and having achieved pass plus exceeded grade a month after passing my test.
@@thefiestaguy8831 nightmare bud
Can you inspect the belt if you remove the sump to check for bits?
@@CarlosFandango1975 yes you can see it, tbh if you've gone that far unless belt is recent I'd carry on and replace, it's a good selling point, unfortunately it means the cars got to come cheap to allow for it.
@@CarlosFandango1975 belts supposed to have an oil resistant coating so it doesn't degrade, that's why it's got to be the proper oil, that's the theory anyway.
Show the full roof mechanism working. It’s a brilliant bit of engineering. Keep an eye out for the little flaps that come out at the back of the cabin. Nerdy but sweet. It’s a thing of beauty 😊
The problem with the eco booms 💥 is not just the wet belt to get them to go you have to thrash the engine and so after a few years the engines are trashed
That old Yaris can't be worth £3k retail - That's a £500 car cleaned up.
,🤣🤣🤣
with the EOS when they leak they stink of damp. but a dry stored car that comes out when the suns out will not be the same as a car that lives outside and that car looks very clean 👍👍
Yes suspect this was pampered
Sign of a blocked oil pump strainer, oil light takes a while to go out when you first start the car, also the light can flicker at tick over . At that point the engine might be screwed already .
the reason they take a massave hit in part ex values is due to the 1.0 ecoboom
Just avoid EcoBoost engines and Puretech engines. With the Yaris, could you not keep it as a courtesy car if you need one? Just fix the air con, wash it, clean inside, and then you run it into the ground? Surprised the gold A class hasn't sold yet, it is a really nice car and colour. Great video, have a good week, James.
get the 1.5 tdci they are the best no problems ,i have one 115,000 miles runs sweet.
Very reliable ubiquitous engine. Renault R@D most defiantly did their homework with that little gem giving a smooth delivery with just the power ratio 👍
I've had 3 EOS's since 2007 - all 2.0l diesels. My last was on a 13 plate and when I finally sold it a year ago it had nearly 190,000 miles on it.
Great cars, and no problems with the roof (they all had the sunroof). BUT - you have to make sure the seals are lubricated 3 or 4 times a year!
Id trade that yaris on....that looks like a wrongun!
Like all UK spec Jampanese cars of that age that haven't been garaged, I bet the underside is at least 40% rust (the proper stuff, not surface rust).
Some cars entice you, make you want to get in & drive. Others are dull & are just a means of getting from a to b. But that Yaris was miserable 😂 looked like it had the plague, almost shouted get in me if you dare 🤣
lol!
Peugeot, Citroen and Fiat also have the wet belts
And the 1.0 Honda engine along with the Vauxhall Corsa F 1.2 (Puretech engine).
@@Xenon777_ Easier & far cheaper to swap though
@@Xenon777_ VAG 2.0 TDI's... some of those have the oil pump ran on a wet belt... even though the main cambelt is dry!
Yep, and the 1.2 puretech is crap too
no they dont such cars like 207 is chain or belt depending on engine but they only started doing wet belt when they made 208 and fiat don't make wet belt engines
Got a 2011 Merida , new water pump and lower wishbones usual brake pads and tyres four discs 104400 miles runs sweet. First car viva estate usual tyres, shock absorbers ,springs , water pump leaks all over plus rust new wings five exhausts recon engine and gearbox at 95000 , off the road at 105000 miles due to everything decomposing. Phil.
£3k for that tired Yaris?? Who ever buys it for that price has a screw loose.
Not going to be tired when done though eh
the 6 speed yaris has a different engine , main difference lower emissions (gets in into the £35 tax) also concentric clutch slave. I think they went to analogue dash at the same time. The 5 speeds feel better IMO.
All the VW Eos came with the sunroof feature. Pretty cool feature to have! Maybe the next raffle car??
Should be easy to get a 2nd hand Fiesta wing in white James
Aye, saves time and money 👍
You recon 3k for that old Yaris 🤯!. Cars must be worth more down your end.
Think you may need to do more research on car values
@@ChopsGarageup here in Scotland you’d be lucky to get £1200-£1500 for that yaris.
@@Theleague0fshad0ws just did a search , £2500 min your way
@ChopsGarage throw in a boot full of Iron brew....and it's a deal!
@@ChopsGarage that’s just crazy! I wouldn’t pay that and I don’t know anyone who would, when and why have they gone up in value? I only deal in high end stuff myself and can tell you the margins aren’t great in that but I wouldn’t consider junkers like that personally.
Wouldn't touch that Yaris with a barge pole.
Really , sell great for big money
People pay silly money for these old Yaris, they just go on and on.
@@ChopsGarage Don't like the noises coming from the engine, that's why
Fiesta values will do OK they are good cars and with the number of small non hybrid cars on offer shrinking there will be a steady demand for them, not like your Corsas etc. are super reliable.
The be,t is recommended to change at 10 years, the Fiesta is 10 years old. I wouldn’t pay to have it swapped when you know it needs doing. The fact it’s expensive was a reason not to buy it in the first place.
If someone buys that car and the belt makes the Big Bang, you will on the hook for ignoring the Ford advice which will cost you more than a new belt.
As for the VAT, you will claim back £200 on the £1000 spent on repairs so you don’t lose out!
1200 for a belt? 700 all in on the eco booms in Liverpool
If ur paying that price u need a new mechanic
He is charging that price probably. Not paying!
Will hybrid and electric cars have the same massive value loss at 8-10 years old due to impending battery failure ?
Battery is at 98% at 45k miles I think battery failure may be overstated.
EVs already have stratospheric depreciation.
Eco boom fitting name
'air con moving freely' you only spun the outer bit, the pumps seize / grenade on these
£3k is not bad value for that Yaris, it's just up to whoever buys it if he wants the air-con done. The Yaris is straight, it would come up really nice after a cut and polish, and after the alloys have been decontaminated.
James: "These DSG gearboxes are incredible" maybe, until they either:
1. Entirely shite themselves, that'll be £5K for a new box ta (OR)
2. The clutch packs where out and because the clutch is part of the gearbox (unlike a manual gearbox), that'll be a professional gearbox rebuild
...yeah, I can't imagine why anyone that OWNS a car might choose a manual gearbox...🤦♂
There no logic in all these comments about what COULD go wrong with certain components on cars. You will simply never buy anything other than a Hyundai i10 or in fact just not own a car at all!
The dsg gearbox is good when it has been serviced properly as it’s supposed to that’s why dsg boxes fail lack of maintenance
@@ChopsGarage A clutch pack on a dual clutch box is a wear & tear item though and given the cost involved, most people would, quite rationally, want to avoid that, esp on an older car of low value.
On the other hand my manual box *could* shit itself after 170k miles
@@GryphLane And in most cases, you could replace it with a used box for a few hundred quid.
1.25 is a extremely reliable engine, it's in use day and night and covering 13,000 miles per year without a single failure. They can be economical too, I can get 380 miles out of it
"380 miles", is meaningless without knowing how big the tank is.
@@wizzyno1566 42L
My Renault Austral does over 600 miles per 55 litre tank and it’s a 1.2 3 cylinder turbo.
I had a 1.25 3 door Fiesta. Couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding. My 1.1 Seicento has a much pokier lump. Fiesta had now gone & I have a 595 Abarth Turismo, which has many more smiles per mile.
I had a fiesta 1.25 for 6 years. Reliable car. Apart from the front springs. An door switch on the back door. Only other fault was the indicator switch.
If any debris in Fiesta Ecoboost oil pick up as mentioned it’s already too late and belt degrading and dying and in need of change.
You should clean oil pick along with belt change too.
Any and I mean any debris in pick up it’s new belt or write engine off.
I think the kia is the low range it has compared to other evs available. Another great video james keep up the good work
I don’t agree James has always been honest and told the truth! If you don’t like then don’t watch!
0:34 That's all you had to say 👍
You could do a timing chain conversion. They switched from wet belt to chain around 2019 I think.
2020 for the Fiestas.
@@chrispop99still a wet auxiliary belt?
@@richardsmeeton8910 I don't know anything that runs a wet auxiliary belt; not sure that would work.
They still have a wet oil pump belt, but generally they are not a problem on the Eco-boost.
Not all Fiesta have an ecoboost, the report title loses credibility as a result.
I did not know it needed any credibility lol
I have a 2015 Fiesta Ecoboost 1.0 in Zetec trim. I bought it from a main dealer in 2017 with 7500 miles on the clock. In 2018 a few months before the Ford warranty ended the timing went. Engine light kept coming on then stayed on. Ford tried to mug me off but after much argument caved in and fitted a new belt under warranty. They told me the belt had probably failed due to previous poor servicing by Ford (make of that what you will). I change the oil ( 5-20W) regulary at 6000 mile intervals and only use premium unleaded fuel. At 31000 miles it's running well but I may go for a belt replacment ( both belts ) in the new year to be on the safe side. What I've saved in car tax ( the pre 2017 1.0 Ecoboost 99bhp Fiestas are zero car tax) over the past 7 years will cover most of the replacement cost of a new belt plus my car was pretty cheap to buy in the first place.
Exactly and if you think about it a zetec would have needed 2 belts in 10yrs at prob 400 each
I've got 2013 1.5tdci fiesta had belt changed at 10 years, easier belt change compared with the eco boost,has now got 113000 milessmooth as silk nice engine and car.
Why have so many people bought a ford with this engine and still being bought..there are plenty of eco boost engines on the road..
Problem with these is people not maintaining them properly with the correct oil. People always blame the car before themselves
It's the same with VW DSG auto gearboxes. They don't get them serviced at the specified intervals, then they go bang, costing £2k plus to sort.....
Hot oil and rubber = deterioration
Maintenance sure but this car is flawed
Plenty of ecoboost specialists are doing them now for under a grand.
VAT not sure your system works as "Value Added" should. The concept being you claim back the VAT spent on the inputs (purchase, upgrade/repair work/parts). Does your system work some other way? Are you unable to claim back the VAT on your inputs?
Where recon has a vat element you can claim it back. Scenario _ buy at 1k , sell at 3k spend 1k on prep. Net profit 1000. Pay VAT on 2k (400 to keep it simple) , reclaim £100 say on repairs that had vat element.
Just keep reducing the kia until sold, you might struggle with trade bids, probably don't buy anymore. That yaris sounded rough bud, unless it was the audio, popping could be a valve (?) your in a different world to me mate 3k on an 08 (!) this time of year everyone is checking air con I find, maybe put it to one side till November mate!
Mate Yaris gets 3k on 05 mate everywhere people think they are bullet proof. Bet if you check AT for your way for same low miles one it's over 3k
@@ChopsGarage it wouldnt value an 08 plate bud on auto trader, I'm just putting a 15 plate mint corsa up at 2995, got a mint 64 plate mii up with 45k on at just over 4k.
@@ChopsGarage James, it's a right dog, timing chain is noisy, interior is hammered, it's only an 07 plate with little test (?) you want to be paying not much more than scrap for it tbh, done up its 1295, try it on e Bay as you say and I bet it makes 800 quid. Your defiantly wearing your rose tinted glasses on that one bud, loved the cobweb under the bonnet by the way (!)
@@roystonvehicles9129 ohhh a challenge, you watch
@@ChopsGarage I'll have 100 quid on it bud, sent to your charity, you don't have to pay me if you loose, good luck mate!
Ive just spent 5 hours changing the track control arms and track rod ends on a 2016 yaris and it was rotten as a pear underneath, advised customer to get get rid asap.
Yes love to rot
I serviced the brakes on my wife's car and asked how she found it. She said she doesn't know, she never uses the brakes.
Hi James, another great video.
Id double check the Wet belt freq with Ford as they have reduced the change on the 2.0Ltr from 10 years/140k miles to 6 years/100k miles.
Pete
Turnbridge Autos Ltd
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Cheers mate
@@ChopsGarageI think he means the 2.0 ecoblue. 2.0 ecoboost doesn't have a belt...
James the ecoboost are aft the 1.6 zetec is good news
if you buy and change the wingbon the fiesta look at a vid on the hidden nut behind qauter glass, open-ended spanner on it a couple turns (not to much) to take wing off, but fiddly, just had to change a white wing slso funny enough
I've done it few times. Pain
But you can claim the VAT back on the £1000 moores bill or was it £1000 excl. VAT?
As always great video James 😁
Don’t touch the Yaris, around that year they developed that weird engine noise! We had the same on our 2009 Prius!
Home for everything bud
Power steering pump probably rattles bud that's why belts off, I think a 3 grand they'll want that OK (!)
I eouldn,t but the three cylinder turbo.
You need a truckload of walnut shells to clean the thing out ??
What does 64 plate mean?
Mid 2014
From SA I wondered all along about that,now I know 👍
Lot of risk with a Fox that hasn’t had a service for a few years. Would rather take one that’s been serviced every year with wrong oil that needs a belt than one that’s not been done for a few years.
Best to avoid if poor history
0:58 That's a wing? Some cars have bigger petrol flaps.
At least it won't take much paint.
1356 on the belt had it done by ford in the last couple of weeks. would have cost more to get a car of an equivalent mileage
I guess though as devils advocate a normal belt is 500 to 600 and every 5 years
Misleading video title!
I thought that aswell
I’m very surprised anyone would buy an eco boost.
You didn't do very well bud on e Bay if you remember, was it a dihatsu?
You pay VAT on gross margin however don't you claim back the Vat on items spent on prep ?
Oh bless even jumping in on other people's comments too now so needy. 5 yrs in with an accountant signing books off odds of me not understanding vat....mmm lol!!! You have terrible logic
Yes where there was vat , sometimes there is not and not 100 percent of the margin is spent on vat so you will always end up paying healthy amount on every car. Let's face it HMRC is there to collect vat would not work if we simply cancelled it all out with claim back.
@@ChopsGarage who has ?
@@msjcars2317 that person that's commented on you post bud
@@ChopsGarage oh yes lol
Yaris been used for takeaway/Deliveroo purposes? Looks as tatty as those around our way used for that purpose!
@@howardgregory3888 thought it looked familiar, dropped a few dodgy kebabs off round my way 🤣🤣
Designes to be binned fast ?
The 1.0 Ecoboost makes all vehicles filled with that turkey completely worthless, not a secret any more.
Another good video James 🚗🚙🚘👏👏👏👍👍👍👍👍
Glad you enjoyed it
I like the eos and would like a sale price rather than raffle to possibly secure it?😊
7995
I'd never ever buy a Ecoboost in general let alone if the wet belt hasn't been replaced, why bother buying one to sell if u won't change the belt and that hasn't had a service in 6 years?
I think i will stick to my zafira rather than a fiesta.
Eco boost engine, avoid. Wet belt system is crap. Apparently the beer models have a chain driven system instead of a belt. But what an absolute own goal by ford.
£1200 TO £1600 FOR A BELT CHANGE. MY OLD FOCUS WITH ZETEC ENGINE £370.
And?
@@patrickmcteigue the zetec was a strong engine mines done 200k and still going well
the 1.25 zetec engine is really good,but the emissions let it down and you're paying £200 extra a year on road tax,even more if you have to frequent the pesky CAZ zones.All adds up at the end of the day.
cars built from 2012-2020 there is almost no escape from wetbelt!
As I said before the aygo/C1/107 and the 1.8 prius/auris/corolla blocks are by far the best on the road,but boy do you pay a premium.
I looked at Fiestas before buying my Suzuki but only the 1.25 engine - not interested in the boomer at that age.
Stop the advisory free mots at that price point people don't care about advisory free
First question I get asked. ..have you done the advisories
@@ChopsGarageyep I bet the one's who gives you this advice aren't the one's buying at this price point 🤔
If they were they'd ask 👍
Been taking your brave pills taking that EcoBoom, at least if you keep the Fiesta a few months you'll have a few fireworks in time for Halloween or Guy Fawkes,
Love the video's James
Cheers
You mad buying an eco boom 💥
Why, 5 years running channel ,sold loads and how many have you seen me have back
@@ChopsGarage
Change the belt too pal. The reason the oil-strainer is blocked would be due to the belt shredding itself to minuscule pieces. If you just unblock the strainer the belt will probably break within six months. This is what happened to my wife’s and Ford let’s her go through all the warranty claim, and then rejected it due to it being a 14 plate and not a 64. They said it’s over 10 years old.
@@DRILLBABYDRIL if it's blocked I will bud
I sold a Focus with the wet belt at ten years. I did the belt. No one asked, no one 😢 gutted!!
I don't think most of the general public know the problems awaiting them
Good Karma for you my friend, you're a good person.
Dealers won't take them in px as they won't risk selling them as high chance of a expensive waranty claim.or a refund
@@MegaReddevil71 They're garbage
Dealer in the podcast said he buys them all up says only has problem 1 in 10
Why would you buy that Yaris it’s a POS
Are VW golfs Mk7 any good?
Good . They suffer from rear water leaks from several areas. Apart from that I had a 2014 1.6tdi bluemotion for 3 years with 100k on it and that was all I could say bad about it.
Really solid mate, great to drive and economical.
Why on earth would you buy an Ecoboost with barely any service history !? Madness.
Dealers take risks or there is no business
I do like a Yaris , just not that one 😂
Lol
I’ve just done the belt on our one, £850 all in, no problems
Great price
@@ChopsGarage pl automotive Epping, but far from you but there are specialists with the correct cam locking tooling and torque converters to get the crank pulley off that down them day in and day out. I’d sooner use one of them rather than a garage who might do one every now and then.
Was about to suggest PL autos....
Never owned a single ford for donkeys years, they just don't appeal to me since the Mk1, Mk2 focus days
Anything with a wet belt would not be interested in.
It seems to me that the most popular cars are often the worst for long term reliability, but then I came to the conclusion many years ago that people just love crap, no matter what the commodity!!
lol, they love a brand I think
I'd rather have an 07 reg Toyota Yaris (any engine) than a 64 reg Ford Ecoboost. If I was going to buy a Fiesta of that era, it'd have to be a 1.25.
I'd rather walk
I like the older 1.4 Zetec Fiesta mk4. They sell so quickly, they are light on fuel, and go like s""t off a shovel. It's a pity that I lost my P reg Fiesta due to rust though.
10yrs old 150k? Nah.. these wet belts need done every 40k otherwise a new engine.....
Must be mad taking that in unless u do the belt could bite u very hard too many issues not just the wetbelt rather have th me 1 2 zetec
Us dealers are mad, it's gamble every day
Sounds like a loose spark plug on the Yaris to me ....
Oh good call mate I'll check
@@ChopsGarage hopefully it's not stripped threads!
Blown exhaust gasket maybe🤔
Check underneath that yaris before you get too far into it bud.
Very true
@@ChopsGarage St up. On ramp bud, shake wheels, prod underneath, do a pre mot yourself, brake pipes, broken springs, you'll soon get the hang of it, see if a cheapie is worth going on with, only takes 15mins and saves you going down rabbit holes, cheaper stuff like that yaris, say short test is just above scrap price these days, I've just bought (and sold) civic, newer shape, 400 quid, 107 on an 07,same 425 quid, astra automatic on a 57,600 quid. Where I am cheapies rule (unfortunately).
The one litre eco engines are awful
Hatchback eco boxes have always been crap, not much cheaper than a saloon either these days
They are great , far better then older engines but they need the right servicing
@@ChopsGarage yeah your right, they are good for what they are, but why have a 1 litre petrol when a 1.5 diesel will be much better for your wallet over the lifetime of the vehicle, just my opinion but i think cheap saloons/sedans being replaced by hatchbacks as the entry level car has made them all a bit boring
Ford engine designers need to seek alternative employment. Complete rubbish.
Was looking for a car for my son last week. Any number of ecoboost Fiestas out there - I wonder why! I wouldn't have one given to me, sorry.
Buy one with belt done and you will have cracking car