The Rule of 72 (with Private Equity Interview Questions)

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  • Опубліковано 5 жов 2024

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  • @ChiefBeef3
    @ChiefBeef3 2 роки тому +8

    Watch your vids, bought the PE course, and learned a ton. I'm at a small/middle-market investment bank and I was hoping you could do a video on small/middle-market private equity as I'm looking to transition into that sector. Another user said something akin to this as well & you were going to look into something like that, but there wasn't a whole lot of empirical data to go off of unlike firms with $1B+ of capital.

  • @michaelking1647
    @michaelking1647 2 роки тому +3

    Great video for quick LBO mental math! I will be using this for sure. Rule of 72, 114, 144 - no having to memorize IRR tables 🙌🏻

  • @ksjb85
    @ksjb85 2 роки тому +2

    Dig your vids - I'm an Economics major (3 classes left!) considering getting an MBA in finance from a T15 school. Ultimately I want to become an Impact investor in the Private Equity space (btw I'm 36 so time is of the essence 😅) but thanks for the vids. You have a knack for breaking down things!

    • @PeakFrameworks
      @PeakFrameworks  2 роки тому

      Good luck, impact investing space seems really cool!

  • @Woodshadow
    @Woodshadow 2 роки тому

    Awesome video as always. You made this extremely simple to understand.

  • @Lofibootleg
    @Lofibootleg 2 роки тому

    Thank you so much for this, absolute lifesaver! Do you have any tips on 5x, 6x, 7x ... return on multiples though?

    • @PeakFrameworks
      @PeakFrameworks  2 роки тому +1

      I think you can kind of do it for multiples of 2 and 3, but there's not one for 5x and 7x to my knowledge. Rule of 216 works well for 8x. I just quickly checked a Rule of 186 (72 + 114) for 6x, but it's not quite as accurate.
      In an interview setting, they'll generally give you numbers that you can work backwards from. In a non-interview setting... you should probably be using Excel for returns that big

    • @ArbitraryThought
      @ArbitraryThought Місяць тому

      If you are down to memorize numbers, please refer to the below for the "Rules" for 5x and beyond. E.g., for MoM of 7x in 4 years, applying the Rule of 250, you would get 250/4 >> 62.5%, while the actual IRR is 62.7%. The table can be found in 11:20 of a video I made, link: ua-cam.com/video/aCHFgOCX1hU/v-deo.html
      5x: 198
      6x: 226
      7x: 250
      8x: 272
      9x: 292
      10x: 311
      11x: 328
      12x: 344
      13x: 359
      14x: 373
      15x: 387
      16x: 400
      17x: 412
      18x: 424
      19x: 435
      20x: 446
      21x: 456
      22x: 466
      23x: 476
      24x: 485
      25x: 494
      26x: 503
      27x: 511
      28x: 520
      29x: 528
      30x: 536
      31x: 543
      32x: 551
      33x: 558
      34x: 566
      35x: 573
      36x: 579
      37x: 586
      38x: 593
      39x: 599
      40x: 606

  • @andrewpj7
    @andrewpj7 2 роки тому

    Hello, I appreciate your content on providing educational and intuitive approach to finance, especially private equity. But do you provide courses in corporate development (it can be basic understanding, career path, or any related topics)? If so, can you link me to the course? If not, do you plan to tackle it in the future?

    • @PeakFrameworks
      @PeakFrameworks  2 роки тому +1

      We don't have a corp dev course (though we have an overview of corp dev video coming out in a bit). We have a general corporate finance / valuation course, but that might be different from what you're looking for: www.peakframeworks.com/valuation-finance-starter-kit
      Honestly I think corp dev recruiting is pretty similar to IB, but more focus on specific company research

  • @derekliu8512
    @derekliu8512 2 роки тому

    Hey Matt, for the last question, I was just wondering, does paying down the debt not counteract the IRR in someway? If you had bought the company with just debt, then would that mean you have an infinite IRR as the debt is paid off as you sell the company?

    • @PeakFrameworks
      @PeakFrameworks  2 роки тому +2

      I'll first clarify that in an LBO, we're focused on the IRR of the equity investor. The debt investor by definition doesn't actually get access to any of the profits of the company. Debt investors only get the interest on the debt and their principal. That's why we calculate this using levered free cash flow.
      Paying down the debt does not counteract the IRR (though I'm not sure what you mean by counteract). Paying down debt generally is actually going to increase the investment's IRR because you're reducing the amount of total interest you have to pay.
      For your second question, the mechanics don't work quite like that because debt only gets their interest / principal. You don't get the whole company for debt.
      But even if you were a debt investor who received the whole company, it still wouldn't be infinite IRR. You'd have to map out the cash inflows and see what your return would be. It's not like the basis of your investment shrinks to 0 because the debt is paid down. Getting your debt paid down would count as a cash inflow.
      You should check out the LBO video if you haven't already to make sure you know the mechanics.

  • @blakeandrews3613
    @blakeandrews3613 2 роки тому

    Hey Matt, I am currently looking at pursuing an MBA from Ivey business school at western as well as the CFA designation, in order to obtain a position at an investment bank. However, my bachelors degree is from Athabasca University which is by no means a top tier school. If I get an MBA from Ivey and a CFA designation, will anyone care where I did my bachelors? Please let me know your thoughts on this. Thanks!

  • @HelloColorClear
    @HelloColorClear 2 роки тому

    Matt in your LBO example you don’t count the value of the cash flows you receive as the owner over the course of the investment?

    • @PeakFrameworks
      @PeakFrameworks  2 роки тому +1

      Well, we assume that the cash flows are used to pay down debt. We also aren't explicitly told that there is positive cash flow here (only EBITDA).

  • @ArbitraryThought
    @ArbitraryThought Місяць тому

    @PeakFrameworks Hi Matt - thank you for the video! Learnt a lot from you in general.
    For IRR/CAGR estimation, I have formulated the Rule of 40M, where M is the MoM.
    If you use [40 * M / No. of Years] for the questions in the video, it provides decent approximations.
    The neat part is, The Rule of 40M also works for MoM that are not whole numbers.
    For MoM of 2.8x in 3.5 years, the Rule of 40M gives us that the IRR is 40*2.8/3.5 >> 32%, while the actual IRR is 34%.
    I have made a video about it, feel free to check it out! Link: ua-cam.com/video/aCHFgOCX1hU/v-deo.html

  • @EdmundKirk-c6j
    @EdmundKirk-c6j 27 днів тому

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  • @tootplox
    @tootplox 2 роки тому +2

    Damn your ideas must be running out huh