Well, the Groza is different. Base on the AK variant but in the bullpup way. Two versions in BF4, the Groza-1 had a foregrip and only used 7.62x39mm M43, while the Groza-4 with the suppressor is in 9x39mm Subsonic.
2:41 The Pieper revolver carbine is a forgotten weapon for a reason--it may be light and handy, but the cartridge it fires is 8mm Pieper and it uses the same gas system as the 1895 Nagant revolvers. One source says the cartridge was loaded by Remington at 106 grains at 1100 FPS, so not too awful for a pistol rounds, but not too great in a carbine, especially not compared to the kinds of Winchester rifles that would have been common in the Mexican rural areas where the only users--Mexican Rural Police--would have operated. Much less any of the machine guns and proto-assault rifles floating around in Battlefield's alternate WW1.
The Madsen is actually king in mid range! Do use it more! Little recoil lets you laser beam people, 40 bullets lets you take out an enemy even if you only spot a foot at medium-long distance, and it lets you take out 2-3 guys with good visibility. Do use the 3x scope though, it hides the huge mag from your field of vision. And oh, you can kill anything with five bullets maximum at long distance, all other LMGs take six bullets to do the trick. It is my go to LMG.
yeah, I don't play BF much but I saw the recoil on that gun even with the scope and instantly thought it would be great for long sightlines. It's not meant to get right up close and shred people, it's meant to lock down an open area from a vantage point.
Despite what you say they still did this gun so dirty this could have really been used as a light machine gun considering it’s ammo capacity and actual weight since it weighed about the same as a BAR and the caliber being roughly the same size (the Madsen used 8x58mmr Danish Krag and the Bar used 7.62x63)
@@jblazerndrowzy bullet velocity doesnt matter when target is stationary. At that point it's just raw DPS. They tried to have ranged damage drop off but people hated it. So this is what they were left with it
@@the47thsoldier67 that "trash bullet deviation" is one of the biggest reasons why BF1 is such a well balanced game. I suggest watching Enders deep dive into the differences between the gunplay of BF1 and BFV and why BF1 is superior.
@@Ashar121 What do you mean by “they tried to have ranged damage drop off”? Every gun has ranged damage drop off, with SMGs starting off at ~25 damage dropping to 12 damage. The Madsen meanwhile drops to 18 damage which, in BFV at least, is quite hard hitting compared to pretty much every other automatic weapon that isn’t the Chauchat or the Breda. SMGs have horrible damage beyond ~20 meters and typically get outgunned beyond that point. How TBAG didn’t rip apart that Medic using the ZK, an SMG that has horrible damage output without light bolt, is a wonder. EDIT: What I can say is that there’s definitely ranged superiority in BFV, it’s just not as immediately noticeable as previous BFs. If it were raw DPS, the Madsen would’ve won instead of it being a draw. TBAG clearly missed several shots while the Medic hit just about every single one, so the fact that it still ended in a draw should say something.
Ja, it's one of my main guns, if only because I have terrible recoil control. I actually win almost all encounters with it if I spot the enemy before he spots me. Plus, the 40 round mag lets you laserbeam and can potentially take out multiple enemies.
When I started playing bfv recently I started using weapons that I never used before, one of them being the madsen mg, at first I found it weird but after a few minutes I was outgunning everyone, including zk's and mp40's, it is a very fun gun to use really
1:58 That’s the case because of sub-sonic ammo. Sub-sonic ammunition is where the bullet goes below the speed of sound. With sub-sonic ammo, you can use suppressors perfectly. Without that ammo, suppressors wouldn’t work except at long distances.
Been thinking about this a lot. I hate the fact that there was 1 VA with the same voice lines (minus a few class specific lines) regardless of which class you chose. The Bad Company series of games made things feel different since each class had a different VA with different lines for the same action.
@@n8zog584 for the teammates yes. Tons of different VA but not for the classes you play as. Not sure about BF3 as I haven't played MP but its pretty evident in BF4, 1 and V
The Madsen is an interesting gun, it has lower damage than most of the other lmgs but it has better damage falloff and even without the bipod it is one of the most controllable at long range do to low and consistent recoil patterns. You can only really be competitive with it at medium to long range.
Most the guns you used are actually viable in their games, pieper being the only ass one here. Both groza are used for different situations and is really good in general. Madsen is a king at medium range for small groups. Due to the Vcar attatchments its fairly good for both QCB and long range engagements but not medium, also the best semi-auto of the current 3.
1:36 WWIII be like: “But this one have a permanently fixed suppre-“ **dude screaming by suffer of war and freaking dies in front of him** “Oh well, he’s dead! ANYWAYS....”🤣
Youre only half right. Only black powder revolver carbines were prone to this which had to reloaded by hand. The carbine in BF1 uses a cartridge which is pretty safe.
@@I_AM_VERRUCKT that being said gas can also escape from the chamber gap (not in the case of the Pieper though, it uses the same gas seal system as the Nagant revolver), which can get pretty annoying and you'll probably burn yourself after a while
I actually managed to take a plane out with the pieper once in BF1, bailed from my plane as it was nearly dead and fired off some shots into the enemy plane chasing me to finish it off.
You are the only gaming youtuber that i still watch at 17 years old. I just wanna thank you for all the times you made my day better whenever i was bored. You are one of the last existing gaming youtubers in 2022 that are still really fun to watch
Dude same here, I'm turning 17 in 5 months time and I still watch this guy. I've outgrown most gaming youtubers that I watched but TBag is the only gaming youtuber I'd still come back and watch. His content is just so entertaining
Me having only Bf 1 and BF 5, well nice play 4:30 with that sentry kit, mostly i will get killed in 00,5 seconds after i put it on, because of muromets, or some rambo flankers that are around to just backstab you, but you made nice killstreak respect that , 7:40 me who read about Zk 383 - that it was smg called Machine gun pistol, because it could play a role of actual light machine gun, very precise, 30 rounds in magazine and bipod, while still shooting pistol bullets, and i think that it had good balistics tests even on 200 meters soo on smg great, while expensive in real life, here it seems to overpowered over your Madsen(which is old design of lmg during WW2) :D But hey great plays have some hope for these games again to play them, you always makes me smile over your video, Stay awesome in continuing making more videos men.
If you think about it, no gun is entirely useless, the term useless is based on personal preference this term can be used if one’s playstyle does not fit the characteristics of a certain weapon
The funniest part about the gun in bf2042 is that irl its .22 Magnum which makes it strange that any military would use it in combat due to its lack of armor penetration and its pickyness with ammo.
TBAG I think my favorite thing about these videos is how you seem dominate with some these guns in gameplay and still follow up with “So yeah this gun is just horrible.” Like you could travel to Olympus with a Kolibri, kill every god with it and say “See this gun is so bad. Point made.”
Dude I’ve actually used the groza quite proficiently. In many situations ranging from close to mid-farish range. Nothing as good as the SG553 but still decent
I have one thing to say about madison though, it has one of the best damage drop value in machine gun class. Plus the relatively controllable recoil and HV bullet at level 4making it a really good camp weapon. Also i know the menu stats in 2042 is broken RN but VCHR have almost identical stat to mp28... Which is a secondary...
I love watching him try the weapons he doesn’t use just to realize they aren’t bad. He’s running the peiper and calling it trash just to not do bad with it because it isn’t actually a bad gun.
I dunno. Other than the Pieper, simply because I don't use non MG weapons on Support, all the firearms listed I use regularly, do quite well with, and am pretty happy with using.
@@encross8058 When we are playing CQB maps, and we are highly mobile, I've been known to run the pistol carbines. Usually that's when we are playing around objectives, but not necessarily *in* objectives. Flares, dummies, etc.
HV-Car is based on a Kel-Tec Pistol Caliber Carbine meant for Civilian Market, Currently Chambered in .22 Long Rifle (Pistol Cartridge), which is By Military standards is WEAK, but I guess in Bf2042 they rechambered it to FN 5.7×28mm
I miss the commander thing. I use to play battlefield 2. It's like Squad but older. The commander can controls anything from Artillery barrage to UAVs and supply drops. Or I think it's the first Squad game. You can also apply for team leader. Team leader's role is to spot enemies and direct fire on them.
The Madsen LMG is actually a rather legendary design. It's a very early LMG design but it also has seen A LOT of service to my understanding. There's even footage of a Brazillian Police Officer within the past 10 years or so using one on-the-move. A MADSEN. Which is from like 1905 or something crazy like that. No, I just checked, it was adopted in 1902. Must have been designed right around 1900. Epic.
Battlefield stil my fav military shooter and Bf3 and Bf4 looked so good I had so much fun playing these and it took awhile to level up making you play it more for longer and Physics was pretty good to
Fun fact: the VCAR irl, the Kel-Tec CMR-30 is as useless as it is in the game since it fires .22 WMR rounds, in which they are not recommended for combat use.
Some guns requires special play style, i.e. RSC SMG or Pieper M1893 (BF1). Like all weapons, each one does have its own Pros/Cons which comparing to other weapons might change even more (especially when you compare weapons from different classes/types). That's something that not everyone really think about it when they pick up guns. For example, I like to use the Parabellum MG14/17 (BF1) because of the high rate of fire (which can suck with accuracy (cons) but can stop the entire squad or two from pushing at you (pros) at close-mid ranges). TBH I don't see too often people using it (people more likely use either MG15 nA or broken M1917 MG because of better recoil control/accuracy and med-long range effiency). Basically when one weapon is outstanding far behind, the other shines there. It's still most likely all about the skills, not being as cheap as you can be with the most well balanced weapons.
Yo tbag, here is a random fact: the mars pistol is actually a bad gun irl. Due to how much kick it has firing it once feels like breaking your hand and those who ever fired it quoted "never wanted to fire it again"
funny tidbit about that Madsen gun... "Who would ever use this thing..." Brazil. matter of fact, Brazil STILL USES THEM TODAY. it's the standard armament of their Military Police.
Basically difference between Groza A1 and Groza A4 is A1 is basically a bulpup AK, A4 is more of a bulpup AS Val. With the A1 using 5.45x39 and the A4 using 9x39SP, which is why is has a suppressor. As it's a subsonic round.
I find it funny that every game that the Madsen and Chauchat appear in, they're portrayed as hunks of shit when IRL they were really good. The Madsen specifically got used a lot and still sees unofficial service among some militias and terrorist groups who use whatever they can get their hands on.
dang I have not played Modern Warfare, BF1 or BF5 in a while. Been busy and I tv set up is not the same as my apartment (at parent's place and got to move i graduated from college :) ) also the controller is not as good because of Modern warfare lol. Good video man keep it up!
Glad to see an entire video that was made just because the vcar has no point. (Bad buff concept: always accurate within 125 meters and full auto (240 per minute))
Tbag can you please give some aiming tips for battlefield 1 on console since, I am getting railed on in the game by the SMG 08/18 and M1917 MG telescopic spammers, plus please tell how did you develop such good recoil control and accuracy on console, cause I am struggling (came bact to console gaming after 5 years, last played on a PS3) and please play on Asian servers if you really want a challenge...thanks
The Madsen Gun was made by the Danish in 1886 i believe. It has a very unique style of action. being able to load a full size rifle round in half the space. the "magazine" is more or less a spring loaded hopper. all it does it force feed bullets into a tray, as the gun cycles it literally throws the bullets into the action. the spent casing come out the bottom of the gun. The madsen was the first "LMG" in a world of HMG's. it was chambered in every popular round you can imagine. 8mm mauser, 30-06, 303 british, 7.62x54R. it was a commercially produced gun that never actually got officially adopted by any military. however the germans used a large amount of them organizing regiments with them until they ran out in the early war. the Japanese bought a load of them and used them to great effectiveness in the russian japanese war. it was truly a remarkable design for its time. being a top fed machine gun, it was really meant for trench warfare. to keep you as low as possible. i use to own one of these in 8mm mauser. the whole barrel and action cycle together as 1 giant piece inside the barrel shroud. originally the gun required a muzzle booster to help the cycling. its quite remarkable how the danish came up with this LMG during a time period when we really hadnt even figured out how to make a good semi auto handgun. Since the madsen shoots from a closed bolt instead of an open bolt, its one of the few machine gun kits that are allowed to be rebuilt here in the USA after being fully converted to semi auto only. this gun weighs a ton. you would NEVER think of attempting to shoulder this gun. you can shoot it from the hip or under your arm but shouldering would be a terrible idea. also all the madsens came with carry handles on the barrel. and the magazines never held 40 rounds. sorry but they just didnt make them that way. the one in the game is giant compared to what they were actually like. and not sure how they actually would have mounted a scope on the madsen. i highly doubt that was a common let alone actually done. miss my madsen gun. sometimes i wish i never sold it.
I find it interesting you chose the revolving rifle in BF1... In Far Cry 6, the same model is a vicious monster that will eat anything smaller than a cargo truck.
I wouldn't call me Madsen useless. Its most consistent weapon in damage in the game. Very accurate and good at range, especially with the 40 round mag, bipod and scope
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remember the *''something something something... in different Battlefield games''* series? Let me know if you want me to do more👍😁
Yes
where is battlefield hardline We want battlefield hardline
Of course !!!!! 😃😃😃😃😃 And historically accurate loadouts again !!!!!! PLEASE !!!!!!
Do most annoying characters in different battlefield games includes campaign and for 2042 the multiplayer specialists counts too
Bro I enjoy your content so much :)
Finally the in different battlefield games Series is back I hope this isn’t just a one time thing because there so much potential to this series
True.
Honestly, I missed this series
So much potential? There are only like 8 guns in BF2042 🤷♂️
@@beachparty2613 thanks for sharing your input!
@@beachparty2613 I meant that he would avoid it but I didn’t know he would just drop hardline like that
Tbag: *lists the groza as useless*
Also tbag: *shows the groza shredding*
its honestly only useless when you dont have any sights unlockrd
@@dorsets9295 all to do with you're aim, most guns are great.
@@dorsets9295 found the guy who can't aim
@@Assassino275 did you not see the sights for it?
It feels like a Close Quarter weapon when using regular sight
Well, the Groza is different. Base on the AK variant but in the bullpup way. Two versions in BF4, the Groza-1 had a foregrip and only used 7.62x39mm M43, while the Groza-4 with the suppressor is in 9x39mm Subsonic.
And both are good smh
Technically you can kill an AEK971 user if you shoot for the chest quickly - faster than the AEK I mean
man, i love russia too, he said even that he uses the groza least
Me after all these years just realizing the gross is literally an AK
@Kray on point
2:41 The Pieper revolver carbine is a forgotten weapon for a reason--it may be light and handy, but the cartridge it fires is 8mm Pieper and it uses the same gas system as the 1895 Nagant revolvers. One source says the cartridge was loaded by Remington at 106 grains at 1100 FPS, so not too awful for a pistol rounds, but not too great in a carbine, especially not compared to the kinds of Winchester rifles that would have been common in the Mexican rural areas where the only users--Mexican Rural Police--would have operated. Much less any of the machine guns and proto-assault rifles floating around in Battlefield's alternate WW1.
12 degree burns
@@djd2304 Uses Nagant's gas seal system, no burns.
@@VorpalDerringer it was a gas seal?!
@@djd2304 Yes! Made by the same company that made the Nagant revolver's design.
@@VorpalDerringer I think I heard that in simpel history
The Madsen is actually king in mid range! Do use it more! Little recoil lets you laser beam people, 40 bullets lets you take out an enemy even if you only spot a foot at medium-long distance, and it lets you take out 2-3 guys with good visibility. Do use the 3x scope though, it hides the huge mag from your field of vision. And oh, you can kill anything with five bullets maximum at long distance, all other LMGs take six bullets to do the trick. It is my go to LMG.
yeah, I don't play BF much but I saw the recoil on that gun even with the scope and instantly thought it would be great for long sightlines. It's not meant to get right up close and shred people, it's meant to lock down an open area from a vantage point.
The only reason I’ve used it is because it’s a Norwegian/Danish machine gun and I love nationality
Despite what you say they still did this gun so dirty this could have really been used as a light machine gun considering it’s ammo capacity and actual weight since it weighed about the same as a BAR and the caliber being roughly the same size (the Madsen used 8x58mmr Danish Krag and the Bar used 7.62x63)
The fact that you got out gunned by an SMG is due to how the gunplay works in BF5. There is no ranged superiority since every gun is accurate
Then again at least its not the same trash bullet deviation in bf1
Except that SMGs still do less damage over range and have dogshit muzzle velocity speeds
@@jblazerndrowzy bullet velocity doesnt matter when target is stationary. At that point it's just raw DPS. They tried to have ranged damage drop off but people hated it. So this is what they were left with it
@@the47thsoldier67 that "trash bullet deviation" is one of the biggest reasons why BF1 is such a well balanced game. I suggest watching Enders deep dive into the differences between the gunplay of BF1 and BFV and why BF1 is superior.
@@Ashar121 What do you mean by “they tried to have ranged damage drop off”? Every gun has ranged damage drop off, with SMGs starting off at ~25 damage dropping to 12 damage. The Madsen meanwhile drops to 18 damage which, in BFV at least, is quite hard hitting compared to pretty much every other automatic weapon that isn’t the Chauchat or the Breda. SMGs have horrible damage beyond ~20 meters and typically get outgunned beyond that point.
How TBAG didn’t rip apart that Medic using the ZK, an SMG that has horrible damage output without light bolt, is a wonder.
EDIT: What I can say is that there’s definitely ranged superiority in BFV, it’s just not as immediately noticeable as previous BFs. If it were raw DPS, the Madsen would’ve won instead of it being a draw. TBAG clearly missed several shots while the Medic hit just about every single one, so the fact that it still ended in a draw should say something.
Glad to see these types of videos back,
So when’s every door in battlefield V ranked worst to best?
Now that is something we need
Nah doors in BFV are boring and have less variety than in BF1
@@sharky9075 how about end of round themes?
I also think that we need this video
@@lunchtime_mmmmmmm Hmm, who could have thought
The madsen in bfv is actually a fun one to use. It has a very manageable recoil and fire rate, as well as fast reload.
Ja, it's one of my main guns, if only because I have terrible recoil control. I actually win almost all encounters with it if I spot the enemy before he spots me. Plus, the 40 round mag lets you laserbeam and can potentially take out multiple enemies.
And it does more damage at longer ranges than any other mg(with the exception of the Chauchat)
It was great when the TTK got changed a while back because it doesn't have a damage drop-off at range. I believe it's five bullets at any range.
When I started playing bfv recently I started using weapons that I never used before, one of them being the madsen mg, at first I found it weird but after a few minutes I was outgunning everyone, including zk's and mp40's, it is a very fun gun to use really
@@jessestevens_aka_jesus that’s decent actually
1:58 That’s the case because of sub-sonic ammo. Sub-sonic ammunition is where the bullet goes below the speed of sound. With sub-sonic ammo, you can use suppressors perfectly. Without that ammo, suppressors wouldn’t work except at long distances.
Been thinking about this a lot. I hate the fact that there was 1 VA with the same voice lines (minus a few class specific lines) regardless of which class you chose. The Bad Company series of games made things feel different since each class had a different VA with different lines for the same action.
There is more than one VA in pretty much every class.
@@n8zog584 for the teammates yes. Tons of different VA but not for the classes you play as. Not sure about BF3 as I haven't played MP but its pretty evident in BF4, 1 and V
I mean, so did BFH
who the fuck cares its a shooter not a visual novel lmao
*goes from bf1 Madsen to bfv Madsen*
"look at how they massacred my boy."
You can hear neebs shouting in the background at 1:37😂
The Madsen is an interesting gun, it has lower damage than most of the other lmgs but it has better damage falloff and even without the bipod it is one of the most controllable at long range do to low and consistent recoil patterns. You can only really be competitive with it at medium to long range.
Actually it has no damage falloff. Its a 5 hit kill at every imaginable range pretty much.
@@imrefuty7592 No, it drops to a 6 shot kill, but the best part is that it doesn’t drop to a 7 shot kill like most other MGs
Most the guns you used are actually viable in their games, pieper being the only ass one here. Both groza are used for different situations and is really good in general. Madsen is a king at medium range for small groups. Due to the Vcar attatchments its fairly good for both QCB and long range engagements but not medium, also the best semi-auto of the current 3.
Well, i use the pieper and i like it. Its not that bad
I actually like the piper since it has such low recoil.
3:06 nice transition on the reload
"This gun is so inconsistent!" Try hitting your shots lol.
1:36 WWIII be like:
“But this one have a permanently fixed suppre-“
**dude screaming by suffer of war and freaking dies in front of him**
“Oh well, he’s dead! ANYWAYS....”🤣
Those revolver rifles were actually one of the most dangerous to use bc they were prone to chain fire and blow your hand off 💀
Youre only half right. Only black powder revolver carbines were prone to this which had to reloaded by hand. The carbine in BF1 uses a cartridge which is pretty safe.
@@imrefuty7592 that carbine also makes for a good trolling gun too lol
@@imrefuty7592 ah I forgot Ty
@@I_AM_VERRUCKT that being said gas can also escape from the chamber gap (not in the case of the Pieper though, it uses the same gas seal system as the Nagant revolver), which can get pretty annoying and you'll probably burn yourself after a while
The good thing about the Madsen is that has a consistent damage model
At all distances it's going to be a 5 shot kill.
I actually managed to take a plane out with the pieper once in BF1, bailed from my plane as it was nearly dead and fired off some shots into the enemy plane chasing me to finish it off.
Yeah it does like two to three damage to planes which doesn't sound like a lot but really adds up so it's fun to harass them with it
TBag talking about the Pieper: Everything is bad about this gun
Me a masochist and got 2 service stars with it.
same here lmao
@@encross8058 Yeah, i bet it sucked for you too huh.
You are the only gaming youtuber that i still watch at 17 years old. I just wanna thank you for all the times you made my day better whenever i was bored. You are one of the last existing gaming youtubers in 2022 that are still really fun to watch
Do you...like...S.T.A.L.K.E.R., Borderlands, or Half-Life?
Dude same here, I'm turning 17 in 5 months time and I still watch this guy. I've outgrown most gaming youtubers that I watched but TBag is the only gaming youtuber I'd still come back and watch. His content is just so entertaining
Awww loook at you young lads battlefield Vietnam was where it was at 🤘🏻
@@jared.p240 almost 17? Dude you're ancient
@@allgunsblazed9106 I feel ancient🤣
Me having only Bf 1 and BF 5, well nice play 4:30 with that sentry kit, mostly i will get killed in 00,5 seconds after i put it on, because of muromets, or some rambo flankers that are around to just backstab you, but you made nice killstreak respect that , 7:40 me who read about Zk 383 - that it was smg called Machine gun pistol, because it could play a role of actual light machine gun, very precise, 30 rounds in magazine and bipod, while still shooting pistol bullets, and i think that it had good balistics tests even on 200 meters soo on smg great, while expensive in real life, here it seems to overpowered over your Madsen(which is old design of lmg during WW2) :D But hey great plays have some hope for these games again to play them, you always makes me smile over your video, Stay awesome in continuing making more videos men.
TBAG: "mmgs are trash because all you do is camp with the bipod"
Also TBAG: 7:15 camps with a bipod
If you think about it, no gun is entirely useless, the term useless is based on personal preference this term can be used if one’s playstyle does not fit the characteristics of a certain weapon
who asked
@@theswagman1263 I did
@@theswagman1263 I did
Waited so long for this return
The funniest part about the gun in bf2042 is that irl its .22 Magnum which makes it strange that any military would use it in combat due to its lack of armor penetration and its pickyness with ammo.
It’s the games “funny gun” it’s kind of just a staple of the franchise at this point
I don't know many other guns that aren't picky with their ammo besides that one revolver meant to take like four different calibers
@@encross8058 many rimfire self loading guns will only shoot 1 or 2 brands of the type of ammo they're supposed to take.
@@lolk4530 ah alright I didn't know that thanks
The return of the best series!
Man I remember this series when I was in love with BFV. TBAG’s still the man, if a little angrier lol
"Excuse my clumsiness" that's y we're all here tbag😂😂😂
0:30 you literally shot everywhere he wasnt😂
YES THE KING HAS RETURNED TO THE KING SERIES!
TBAG I think my favorite thing about these videos is how you seem dominate with some these guns in gameplay and still follow up with “So yeah this gun is just horrible.” Like you could travel to Olympus with a Kolibri, kill every god with it and say “See this gun is so bad. Point made.”
Groza-4 has lesser bullet velocity not because of suppressor but because of its caliber. Its actually sub-sonic 9x39.
Here’s a video idea: Using all BOLT-ACTIONS RIFLES in [Battlefield game]
Love that you added the noob from BF friends at 1:38-1:40
I love how Tbag rages even while recording, it's more realistic than being chill after dying unfairly 5 times
“Wow we got 2 kills in the same mag” *me playing any fps*
Dude I’ve actually used the groza quite proficiently. In many situations ranging from close to mid-farish range. Nothing as good as the SG553 but still decent
Good ol' times when you used to make these
I have one thing to say about madison though, it has one of the best damage drop value in machine gun class. Plus the relatively controllable recoil and HV bullet at level 4making it a really good camp weapon.
Also i know the menu stats in 2042 is broken RN but VCHR have almost identical stat to mp28... Which is a secondary...
For some reason, I love using the pieper
yeah it's fun
1:52
"I really dislike suppressors in this game, because it turns bullet velocity into 5 centimeters per year"🤣
I love watching him try the weapons he doesn’t use just to realize they aren’t bad. He’s running the peiper and calling it trash just to not do bad with it because it isn’t actually a bad gun.
1:37 Did I hear a neebs gaming reference
1:22 the Top Gun Advertisement with Tom Cruise showed up.. what a perfect timing 😂😂
I dunno. Other than the Pieper, simply because I don't use non MG weapons on Support, all the firearms listed I use regularly, do quite well with, and am pretty happy with using.
I like spamming the other pistol carbines at close range since they don't start off inaccurate like the lmgs do
@@encross8058 When we are playing CQB maps, and we are highly mobile, I've been known to run the pistol carbines. Usually that's when we are playing around objectives, but not necessarily *in* objectives. Flares, dummies, etc.
@@FokkeWulfe yeah
the pieper is actually cool when you begin to use it on the hardcore server, very satisfying
HV-Car is based on a Kel-Tec Pistol Caliber Carbine meant for Civilian Market, Currently Chambered in .22 Long Rifle (Pistol Cartridge), which is By Military standards is WEAK, but I guess in Bf2042 they rechambered it to FN 5.7×28mm
Not weak, useless, today every modern soldiers have protection good enough to stop 22. without problem.
@@andrijasaviccsavic1124 Protection? bro .22 LR Doesn't Kill Anything Larger than a Cat
@@GaryHamad it can still lead to serious injury and bleeding, so it can still be very dangeorus.
@@andrijasaviccsavic1124 still "Not a Toy" on the Label, except Kolibri, that's a Toy
@@GaryHamad thats what i said, it can be dangeorus without body protection, but with protection (which is standard for today battlefield) its useless.
1:18
Lost the opportunity to scream "BANZAIIIIIII" at the top of your lungs.
I miss the commander thing. I use to play battlefield 2. It's like Squad but older. The commander can controls anything from Artillery barrage to UAVs and supply drops. Or I think it's the first Squad game. You can also apply for team leader. Team leader's role is to spot enemies and direct fire on them.
are you talking about Project Reality?
Playing MW2 (the OG) soundtrack over BF1... very nice!
The Madsen LMG is actually a rather legendary design. It's a very early LMG design but it also has seen A LOT of service to my understanding. There's even footage of a Brazillian Police Officer within the past 10 years or so using one on-the-move. A MADSEN. Which is from like 1905 or something crazy like that.
No, I just checked, it was adopted in 1902. Must have been designed right around 1900. Epic.
3:40 Guy: *misses half of his shots*
"WhY diD tHaT tAkE sO LoNg?"
TBag: plays bf1
Also TBag: Calls it bfv in chapters
Glad you didn’t use kolibri as most useless gun in bf1. As I’m sure you know it is quite op.
It should be nerfed. That guaranteed 21 shot kill completely breaks the game
FINELLY !!! BF series come back🔥🔥🔥🔥
It’s not a true TBAG video without hearing neebs say “BATTLEFIEEEELL- * boom *”
You should post a video of you doing commander mode. Even just a few short because I know it's pretty boring to watch
Battlefield stil my fav military shooter and Bf3 and Bf4 looked so good I had so much fun playing these and it took awhile to level up making you play it more for longer and Physics was pretty good to
Oh man, that Madison gameplay just made me remember why I never want to touch that game after the last ttk patch.
Where my every door in battlefield 5 *TBAG*
Fun fact: the VCAR irl, the Kel-Tec CMR-30 is as useless as it is in the game since it fires .22 WMR rounds, in which they are not recommended for combat use.
Yeah, it's really weird that they made what is essentially an underpowered MP7 into a DMR.
Some guns requires special play style, i.e. RSC SMG or Pieper M1893 (BF1). Like all weapons, each one does have its own Pros/Cons which comparing to other weapons might change even more (especially when you compare weapons from different classes/types). That's something that not everyone really think about it when they pick up guns.
For example, I like to use the Parabellum MG14/17 (BF1) because of the high rate of fire (which can suck with accuracy (cons) but can stop the entire squad or two from pushing at you (pros) at close-mid ranges). TBH I don't see too often people using it (people more likely use either MG15 nA or broken M1917 MG because of better recoil control/accuracy and med-long range effiency). Basically when one weapon is outstanding far behind, the other shines there. It's still most likely all about the skills, not being as cheap as you can be with the most well balanced weapons.
you have NO IDEA how excited and happy i got when i saw you posted this video, keep up the epic work buddy :)
I’d love to see the commander position to come back to the bf games. So fun to see an overhead of the map and all the fighting. That was sweet
fun fact : the madsen in bfv is actually a dutch madsen. it's recognisable by its very curved magazine.
Tbag: "season 1 is not too far away..."
Bf2042 launch date: Nov 12 2021
I like Madsen. You have to play it mid range. Close you lose everything if enemy is same skill.
Yo tbag, here is a random fact: the mars pistol is actually a bad gun irl. Due to how much kick it has firing it once feels like breaking your hand and those who ever fired it quoted "never wanted to fire it again"
The groza was actually the gun I have the most hours with. *It’s an underrated, overlooked gun in BF4 and it slaps cheeks all day boy.* 👌
Also one of the first guns a player unlocks
The madesen MG is actually frome WW1
I like the piper it's got a gunslinger vibe to it
Yeah
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For the next video do, “Playing with my most useless friends in different battlefield games” a way to joke with and roast them
funny tidbit about that Madsen gun... "Who would ever use this thing..." Brazil. matter of fact, Brazil STILL USES THEM TODAY. it's the standard armament of their Military Police.
It's pretty wild seeing videos of them carrying a 110 year old machine gun in the favelas.
Basically difference between Groza A1 and Groza A4 is A1 is basically a bulpup AK, A4 is more of a bulpup AS Val. With the A1 using 5.45x39 and the A4 using 9x39SP, which is why is has a suppressor. As it's a subsonic round.
[gets a kill]
"I can't even get a kill"
[gets a triple kill]
When I play as a Sentry, I get killed instantly, and when you play s a Sentry, all the enemies ignore you.
I find it funny that every game that the Madsen and Chauchat appear in, they're portrayed as hunks of shit when IRL they were really good. The Madsen specifically got used a lot and still sees unofficial service among some militias and terrorist groups who use whatever they can get their hands on.
Love this types of videos man hope we get more. Maybe Playing with the most firerate Guns in different Battlefield games?
And ofc the lowest
dang I have not played Modern Warfare, BF1 or BF5 in a while. Been busy and I tv set up is not the same as my apartment (at parent's place and got to move i graduated from college :) ) also the controller is not as good because of Modern warfare lol. Good video man keep it up!
Glad to see an entire video that was made just because the vcar has no point.
(Bad buff concept: always accurate within 125 meters and full auto (240 per minute))
Hi keep upp the great work, groeten uit Den Haag!!!!🇳🇱💪🏻
yes i want the commander mechanic back it was really cool to be honest
About the Groza - you have bullpop configuration AK and the silenced version is like VAL but also again in bullpop configuration.
Tbag can you please give some aiming tips for battlefield 1 on console since, I am getting railed on in the game by the SMG 08/18 and M1917 MG telescopic spammers, plus please tell how did you develop such good recoil control and accuracy on console, cause I am struggling (came bact to console gaming after 5 years, last played on a PS3) and please play on Asian servers if you really want a challenge...thanks
The Madsen Gun was made by the Danish in 1886 i believe. It has a very unique style of action. being able to load a full size rifle round in half the space. the "magazine" is more or less a spring loaded hopper. all it does it force feed bullets into a tray, as the gun cycles it literally throws the bullets into the action. the spent casing come out the bottom of the gun. The madsen was the first "LMG" in a world of HMG's. it was chambered in every popular round you can imagine. 8mm mauser, 30-06, 303 british, 7.62x54R. it was a commercially produced gun that never actually got officially adopted by any military. however the germans used a large amount of them organizing regiments with them until they ran out in the early war. the Japanese bought a load of them and used them to great effectiveness in the russian japanese war. it was truly a remarkable design for its time. being a top fed machine gun, it was really meant for trench warfare. to keep you as low as possible. i use to own one of these in 8mm mauser. the whole barrel and action cycle together as 1 giant piece inside the barrel shroud. originally the gun required a muzzle booster to help the cycling. its quite remarkable how the danish came up with this LMG during a time period when we really hadnt even figured out how to make a good semi auto handgun. Since the madsen shoots from a closed bolt instead of an open bolt, its one of the few machine gun kits that are allowed to be rebuilt here in the USA after being fully converted to semi auto only. this gun weighs a ton. you would NEVER think of attempting to shoulder this gun. you can shoot it from the hip or under your arm but shouldering would be a terrible idea. also all the madsens came with carry handles on the barrel. and the magazines never held 40 rounds. sorry but they just didnt make them that way. the one in the game is giant compared to what they were actually like. and not sure how they actually would have mounted a scope on the madsen. i highly doubt that was a common let alone actually done. miss my madsen gun. sometimes i wish i never sold it.
I find it interesting you chose the revolving rifle in BF1... In Far Cry 6, the same model is a vicious monster that will eat anything smaller than a cargo truck.
Finally ..... original content returns
I wouldn't call me Madsen useless. Its most consistent weapon in damage in the game. Very accurate and good at range, especially with the 40 round mag, bipod and scope
Gets a triple kill.
"I almost got zero kills!"
The sadness i feel when i watch tbags videos bc i go on to these games and cant find a game for hrs.
Love this series. Keep it up!
There's like zero bullet drop in 2042 ....just straight Lazer beams across the map
100 stars with the heavy bomber? is he a virgin?
I like the commander and I hope we get this feature in the future but in my opinion the commander should have more influence on the game
"This video isnt about guns being bad" *proceeds tp name title most useless guns*
Love you’re videos TBag! Keep up the awesome content! 💜