@@viego29 if you don’t know what they are on about they are referring to a character in Honkai star rail which requires the need for a certain type of character archetype (that being nihility) to utilise the character’s talent buff at c0/e0
It ain’t really dangerous since people expect archons to be strong if some random character were to be op it’d be different but we’re talking about elemental gods
This is why the golden four is still on top. It took HYO 3 years to even start replacing them. One by one, every year. Even so, they still stand strong like ex. Fischl.
I think it's actually worse for Cryo. Xiangling is much better and has way more elemental application that Kaeya/Rosaria. It seems like unlikely that Mavuika will completely powercreep Xiangling and likely will do less damage but have better support and qol.
if they dont powercreep xiangling's damage thats fucked, not gonna sell well, i think they will, she just wont have the icd or lack there of that xiangling has
Sorry, but I run a mean 3 hydro and 1 dendro team with Baizhu as a great dps damage dealer & healer with Nilou, Furina and either Neuvillette or Yelan. Nilou with furina cause the extra dps buff and the dendro explosions for Baizhu to be basically instant while amplifying dps and yelan adds an extra layer of HP & dps with her ult and passive buff or Neuvillette for his outstanding burst damage when necessary depending on your situations. Would normally use Nahida with her signature that I have, but after awhile she just can't make it work right when those very strong mini map bosses were put out so I built the best team you can get on low constellations and it came to be the one I have above all because of Baizhu's ability to keep constant dendro flow, damage, and healing with some shield.
Man I sure hope that the new characters helps out older ones so we can try out more teams! love Deyha! But she traditionally hasn't always been the best or the strongest.😊
We really need Main DPS archon with Lingerie Pyro application effect similar to Burning. Maulani and Kinich need Burning Reaction to triggered something.
Neuvilette - better go with a dragon 😅 Arleccino - i'm addicted to this finger snapping and the scythe. Navia bc guns and damage...Zhonghli for emergency shield and crystals for Navia. Paimon for emergency food is a pretty good idea 😅
I don't think it's as dangerous as you say for two big reasons. First you are talking about a specific natlan character that is going to get stronger, I know I skipped her, and this means that while the Pyro archon will be a boost to her there is a roster of over 50 other characters who are hardly going to notice a shift. Second, Pyro has already been the god child of genshin since day one. Pyro has both melt and vaporize which even though in modern meta they are not as strong as they were at the start, they still are strong enough that a good vaporize hu tao team has only gotten minor boosts over time and has never fallen off, only gotten competition. Because of this adding yet another viable Pyro character isn't going to break the game, it's only going to being Pyro back on the map again as hoyo really likes to do. Maybe one day geo will rule, until then Pyro will be the default power hitting element in nearly every case.
Hm...you are right that's why they gave us world level 9 because FuFu + Arle basically anything was two shot ir one shot thing and if i added Raisin Shotgun...that combo can crack Teyvat in half without 4th character
Talking about sheznaya... If archons are a direct buff (through support capabilities) to a lot of chars from their region (like alhaitham and nahida or furina and neuvi) then will the tsaritsa/cryo archon buff the harbingers?
Well looking at the current trend of Archons and the new region + new characters having a special mechanic ( Fontaine ft. Pneumia and Ousia + HP mechanic ~ Furina being compatible with it) We can deduce that the Pyro Archon will have a kit that has smth to do with the Nightsouls Blessing State . If the Snezshnaya Characters have a new unique mechanic then the Cryo Archon will have a kit compatible with it .
well yea. you dont HAVE to summon you can clear the hardest content in the game with the free characters only. It will take longer but its still very much possible
@@kuki2800 that’s a boring way to play gacha games. Playing a new character may it be strong or mid is best part of playing genshin. Genshin is like 4yrs old. We are past that point to summon for meta. I summon for characters I like using.
I didn't build Bennet until last week to use him in Ganyu burnmelt...and I hate how Xiangling plays so I have refused to build her... Mavuika can't come soon enough
Well technically venti and zhongli also apply their respective elements just like nahida, raiden and furina so it is very likely that mavuika would follow the same rule... But as it turns out, genshin is progressively building a reputation of not following patterns...
Not really a "dangerous trend" being caused by the pyro archon. Instead she can fix the problem. Hopefully they can add someone else eventually, and maybe even pyro traveller will help in this regard. I actually neglected the pyro characters because they disappointed me other than Arlecchino. Looking back going for Hu Tao would've helped though. Bennet and Xiangling really carried pyro. But other than that I like the way things have been balanced. I feel like I didn't actually need to pull that often, so I have no saved 160k primos. I may end up trying to get c6 Pyro archon so it would be awesome if c6 allowed both main and offfield dps.
You explained the video exactly - because currently only Xiangling and Bennett are good (but not that good for Natlan) you literally have to pull for her, making her dangerous for everyone else who may not want to get her
Mualani passive is for her Elemental Burst, not her NA. And you need C4 at least if you want to beat the damage of her C1 first NA with her Burst, so why bother trying. Plus why are you using Dehya like that? If you leave her for usage just before Mualani, she can cover Mualani's entire normal Nightsoul duration. Yeah, Pyro lacks good off-fields applicators in general, but Dehya is actually not only good enough already for Mualani, but her current best Pyro team mate. Your video just shows an example in which Kazuha Swirls an already burning enemy and my guess is that this is consuming the Pyro aura too fast. The final straw is that commentary about Cryo applicators. Do you even know how much "often enough" is for a Cryo applicator that allows for Forward-Melt of someone like Xiangling? It has to be as fast or faster than Xianglings application to even stand a chance, and that's insane.
@@Dehya_889 mualani was better than neuvilette pre beta tests (and sigewinne was speculated to be a electro charged suppor). dont trust leaks/speculations THREE patches beforehand lmao
@@Dehya_889 the leaks on youtube are always false because they will say whatever they wanna say and call it a "leak from a reliable source" if you wanna follow leaks use the genshin leaks subreddit because those leaks are from trusted sources and most of the times are accurate As for current leaks, nothing has been revealed about the pyro archon's abilities and only Xilonen's kit has been showcased so far and also we have a few crumbs regariding Chasca's kit As for mavuika it has only been leaked that she will be on a banner in 5.3 and her abilities havent been leaked yet
“Neuvillette can do fine without Furina…” I believe you meant to say “Neuvillette can do fine without anyone.” 😅
He cant … Thats Like saying acheron doesnt Need nihility characters
@@samcreeper8728 ???
@@samcreeper8728 solo neuvillette with the appropriate artifacts can still do pretty good damage
@@viego29 if you don’t know what they are on about they are referring to a character in Honkai star rail which requires the need for a certain type of character archetype (that being nihility) to utilise the character’s talent buff at c0/e0
Umm this is a different game bud.@@samcreeper8728
It ain’t really dangerous since people expect archons to be strong if some random character were to be op it’d be different but we’re talking about elemental gods
Maybe the new archon is the dragon we meet in early journeys.
Xilionen is stronger support possible Pyro Archon doesn't focus in support similar to Raiden kit.
@@yoiko89 pyro archon is a sub dps so better xangling after 4 years
I need Bennett and Xiangling to gtfo anyway. After 4 years, it's about time
Mavuika and Xbalanque: We are the heroes you are seeking for
@@AmbroseVermillion xbalanque is not a playable character he is most likely either an npc or a past character like remus/deshret
This is why the golden four is still on top. It took HYO 3 years to even start replacing them. One by one, every year. Even so, they still stand strong like ex. Fischl.
Who’s the golden 4? Benny Xiangling Xinqiu and Fischl?
@@Defiancy yes
@@Defiancy Yes
And sucrose is the pseudo 5th.
I think it's actually worse for Cryo. Xiangling is much better and has way more elemental application that Kaeya/Rosaria. It seems like unlikely that Mavuika will completely powercreep Xiangling and likely will do less damage but have better support and qol.
I think shell power creep her in damage too because:
1.shes a 5star
2. shes an archon
3. shes new
if they dont powercreep xiangling's damage thats fucked, not gonna sell well, i think they will, she just wont have the icd or lack there of that xiangling has
Charlotte has pretty strong cryo application, she has similar skill to nahida
Archons have always been able to output alot of damage if we ignore the first 2 losers
I have c6 top 15% Xiangling build and her dmg is lack luster (let's be honest weak) it were to be the dmg a 5-star would deal let alone an archon.
Sorry, but I run a mean 3 hydro and 1 dendro team with Baizhu as a great dps damage dealer & healer with Nilou, Furina and either Neuvillette or Yelan.
Nilou with furina cause the extra dps buff and the dendro explosions for Baizhu to be basically instant while amplifying dps and yelan adds an extra layer of HP & dps with her ult and passive buff or Neuvillette for his outstanding burst damage when necessary depending on your situations.
Would normally use Nahida with her signature that I have, but after awhile she just can't make it work right when those very strong mini map bosses were put out so I built the best team you can get on low constellations and it came to be the one I have above all because of Baizhu's ability to keep constant dendro flow, damage, and healing with some shield.
You shouldn’t be using Xianling, you should be using Dehya if you have her. She’s sososo much better for Mualani.
Man I sure hope that the new characters helps out older ones so we can try out more teams! love Deyha! But she traditionally hasn't always been the best or the strongest.😊
We really need Main DPS archon with Lingerie Pyro application effect similar to Burning.
Maulani and Kinich need Burning Reaction to triggered something.
inb4 mavuika gets announced as a main dps
No character is must pull again. Im getting mavuika anyways
I'm saving for Pyro Archon.
If you join a war against Celestia, which team will you choose? (All C0 R1)
I'd have to find my sibling first💀
MC only, like a chad
klee for the dmg, nahida for the plan, qiqi for the heal and paimon for emergy food
Neuvilette - better go with a dragon 😅 Arleccino - i'm addicted to this finger snapping and the scythe. Navia bc guns and damage...Zhonghli for emergency shield and crystals for Navia. Paimon for emergency food is a pretty good idea 😅
@@ainLuka Heaven principles= Cps
According to leaks Xbalanque is a must pull support
Just do your quest before posting this 😂.
So much copium about xbalanque
I don't think it's as dangerous as you say for two big reasons. First you are talking about a specific natlan character that is going to get stronger, I know I skipped her, and this means that while the Pyro archon will be a boost to her there is a roster of over 50 other characters who are hardly going to notice a shift. Second, Pyro has already been the god child of genshin since day one. Pyro has both melt and vaporize which even though in modern meta they are not as strong as they were at the start, they still are strong enough that a good vaporize hu tao team has only gotten minor boosts over time and has never fallen off, only gotten competition. Because of this adding yet another viable Pyro character isn't going to break the game, it's only going to being Pyro back on the map again as hoyo really likes to do. Maybe one day geo will rule, until then Pyro will be the default power hitting element in nearly every case.
Come on Layla is a pretty new character compared to zhongli and before she came out anyone could work fine without him
Hm...you are right that's why they gave us world level 9 because FuFu + Arle basically anything was two shot ir one shot thing and if i added Raisin Shotgun...that combo can crack Teyvat in half without 4th character
I feel like what this lad is saying is not only charged, but it's also a coin.
Talking about sheznaya... If archons are a direct buff (through support capabilities) to a lot of chars from their region (like alhaitham and nahida or furina and neuvi) then will the tsaritsa/cryo archon buff the harbingers?
Well looking at the current trend of Archons and the new region + new characters having a special mechanic ( Fontaine ft. Pneumia and Ousia + HP mechanic ~ Furina being compatible with it)
We can deduce that the Pyro Archon will have a kit that has smth to do with the Nightsouls Blessing State .
If the Snezshnaya Characters have a new unique mechanic then the Cryo Archon will have a kit compatible with it .
By your logic.. we don’t need to summon ever.😂
well yea. you dont HAVE to summon you can clear the hardest content in the game with the free characters only. It will take longer but its still very much possible
@@kuki2800 that’s a boring way to play gacha games. Playing a new character may it be strong or mid is best part of playing genshin. Genshin is like 4yrs old. We are past that point to summon for meta. I summon for characters I like using.
I didn't build Bennet until last week to use him in Ganyu burnmelt...and I hate how Xiangling plays so I have refused to build her... Mavuika can't come soon enough
Well technically venti and zhongli also apply their respective elements just like nahida, raiden and furina so it is very likely that mavuika would follow the same rule... But as it turns out, genshin is progressively building a reputation of not following patterns...
Nahida and furina are must pulls… especially nahida
i have enough for mauvika problem is that new characters drip marketing are making me crazy and create PHOMO..........
who dont want to get her bro??
Not really a "dangerous trend" being caused by the pyro archon. Instead she can fix the problem. Hopefully they can add someone else eventually, and maybe even pyro traveller will help in this regard. I actually neglected the pyro characters because they disappointed me other than Arlecchino. Looking back going for Hu Tao would've helped though. Bennet and Xiangling really carried pyro. But other than that I like the way things have been balanced. I feel like I didn't actually need to pull that often, so I have no saved 160k primos. I may end up trying to get c6 Pyro archon so it would be awesome if c6 allowed both main and offfield dps.
You explained the video exactly - because currently only Xiangling and Bennett are good (but not that good for Natlan) you literally have to pull for her, making her dangerous for everyone else who may not want to get her
Tsaritsa is 1 year away at minimum
you forgot about venti
I mean all tho it’s annoying it does make sense. They are archons so lore wise they should be better
HP for Foutain was fine, EM for sumeru and previous mation were not that well organised but Nathlan and def are not mixiing for me.
Well, at least not all of them gonna be def. Look at Mualani and Kinich. It’s a good mix up tho, at least the def artifcats can be used
Mualani passive is for her Elemental Burst, not her NA.
And you need C4 at least if you want to beat the damage of her C1 first NA with her Burst, so why bother trying.
Plus why are you using Dehya like that? If you leave her for usage just before Mualani, she can cover Mualani's entire normal Nightsoul duration.
Yeah, Pyro lacks good off-fields applicators in general, but Dehya is actually not only good enough already for Mualani, but her current best Pyro team mate.
Your video just shows an example in which Kazuha Swirls an already burning enemy and my guess is that this is consuming the Pyro aura too fast.
The final straw is that commentary about Cryo applicators. Do you even know how much "often enough" is for a Cryo applicator that allows for Forward-Melt of someone like Xiangling?
It has to be as fast or faster than Xianglings application to even stand a chance, and that's insane.
Pull for Pyro Archon, support her with the previous Pyro Archon C6 Bennett. Ignore everyone else.
We ain't got a cryo archon tho
Cryo archon shouldn't be playable. She shouldn't be visible to the end.
Sadly mauvika support abilities are locked behind constellation
how do you know?
@@kuki2800 His source is that he made it the fk up
@@kuki2800 i watched some leaks
@@Dehya_889 mualani was better than neuvilette pre beta tests (and sigewinne was speculated to be a electro charged suppor). dont trust leaks/speculations THREE patches beforehand lmao
@@Dehya_889 the leaks on youtube are always false because they will say whatever they wanna say and call it a "leak from a reliable source"
if you wanna follow leaks use the genshin leaks subreddit because those leaks are from trusted sources and most of the times are accurate
As for current leaks, nothing has been revealed about the pyro archon's abilities and only Xilonen's kit has been showcased so far and also we have a few crumbs regariding Chasca's kit
As for mavuika it has only been leaked that she will be on a banner in 5.3 and her abilities havent been leaked yet
I'm skipping Pyro Archon.
The hell you care
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