Everything Hawk Helium Climbing Sticks: New Mini, Mods, and Actual Weights!!
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- Опубліковано 24 лип 2024
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In this video I discuss Hawk Helium climbing sticks. Full length, the all new Mini. and a modified 24" stick. I also talk about rope mods, climbing aider, and versa buttons. Thanks for watching. Please subscribe if you haven't yet....after all it's free!!
Link to gear mentioned in this video:
Muddy Safe-Line app.rockporch.com/prd/wcmsRxbI7U
Hawk Helium Sticks Old Style (3 pack) app.rockporch.com/prd/QiVyfK3Fwu
Hawk Helium Mini (4 pack) app.rockporch.com/prd/pPsU6UrCtp
Ropeman 2 app.rockporch.com/prd/HAt7u87LQY
10mm Climbing Rope app.rockporch.com/prd/OPc1qhofJH
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I have not done any mods to my 30" hawk sticks except add a one step aider. These 20" mini sticks have my attention with the versa button. Thanks for sharing the in depth video on these stick.
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Wow, mate, you are flying with the videos on your channel. This is all good stuff and you have a distinct style. Great job!
Thanks for your support and encouragement! I sure do appreciate it 👍
I’ve been waiting for a video exactly like this, so thanks! Very quality production also. New subscriber here 👍
Thanks for watching and subscribing! I really do appreciate it 👍
Again, another unbelievable video. Your content is great. I'm going to modify my 30" inch sticks to your 24" version, like the play.
Keep it up and thanks again for sharing!!!
Thanks for watching! I still enjoy my helium sticks 👍
Glad that guy asked for a review. This is very interesting and you always do a great review. Thanks for this video!
Thanks for watching! I sure do appreciate it 👍
Good review. I know this is a couple years old, but a few things stood out to me:
1) Hawk places the lower step 1" higher than what you have showcased here. This puts the distance between steps at 17".
2) The new mini sticks don't have the two drilled holes I see on your mini stick, about 1/3 of the way up from the bottom. It appears that these were the factory drilled holes from a full stick, cut down to 20".
3) Grinding down that first ridge in the top step, thus getting the top steps to close tighter is spot on. It's one of the first things I noticed about mine.
4) Adding a Backwoods Mobile Gear "Versa Aider" allows you to get a comfortable 5' out of each mini stick. It's an alternative aider device to stretch out these minis. The advantage (as I see it) is two-fold; it stays attached to you as you climb and there's no searching for a toe loop on the way down.
5) Everyone should address/accept the well known problem of the suction cups being too tight and breaking off the male end of the connection. A couple minutes with a rotary tool or a sharp knife will fix that issue.
6) I added amsteel daisy chains for my attachment method. They hardly weigh anything, and served me well last season.
I'm convinced the price to performance ratio can't be beat on these Hawk steps. Why anyone would spend 2-4x more money, to save a couple lbs, is beyond me.
I appreciate you sharing your experiences and advice. You make some great points. Thank you 👍
Great input showing weights, climbing aider, size for packing, and step measurements. The 20's + the aider get you same as the full length but a lot of weight savings with the 8mm rope mod. At 2.5lbs x 4 = 10lbs total for 60" - 70" work area and 72" is 6 feet. So one mini with aider gets you roughly 6 feet of climbing distance. Math of 4 sticks x 6 = 24 feet which is plenty for a 10 -12lb system and smaller / easier to move through the woods with.
Thanks for watching! I appreciate you taking the time to comment also! 👍
@@HuntingFarmerOfficial which sticks do you recommend the 20 in or 30 in sticks? The 30s seem like they could be cumbersome on long treks through the woods because of how long they are. I feel like they could get caught on stuff as I'm walking through the woods
These look very handy. I think like you have, a person would want a few in different sizes to make the hight you personally want. Very cool sticks and I like how they can be hushed while walking.
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Awesome show n tell Dave I like your mods but I'm not as flexible as I used to be, the 30s with the 13" steps look great 👍
Haha! I hear ya on the flexibility thing. I ain’t as young as I once was! 😂🤣😂
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Hope your haveing a brilliant Tuesday love the new video allways love catching up on your videos your intro I habe to say is amazing well done top video
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Great video 👍 I used hawk helium’s last year with Amsteel daisy chains and liked them a lot! I just got some new lone wolf climbing sticks for this year though and am already missing the double step the hawk sticks offer.
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I never knew anything like this existed, great idea for climbing into a hunting treestand. 👍
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I did a thing with my 30 inch sticks that I have not seen anyone do. Works great. I cut the each stick off about 2 1/2 inches below middle step and all I had to do was drill a bolt hole to reattach the bottom stand-off. This eliminated a lot of the flat bar a set of steps and one of the rubber stacking cups. I purchased a Ultimaider 3 step aider which I use all the way up to climbing height by attaching to next stick up until I reach height I need. Cut out lots of weight. I can climb higher with this setup than I could using full length set of sticks.
Thanks for watching and sharing your idea! Sounds like a great system 👍
Great modifications brother I’ve never been much of a bow hunter but wanna get into cross bow hunting
That’s how I am with rabbit hunting! So many things I’m interested in...only so many hrs in a day 😁 Thanks for watching. I appreciate your support and encouragement 👍
I just got the newer 30" stix from Amazon for $98. They came with woven Versa straps. I'm 64 so I need shorter steps and hope these will work well with my JX3 Hybrid...I love them. TY for the review!
Thanks for watching! Enjoy your new steps! 👍
How's she goin'? This a great review of these climbing sticks!!! Thanks for doing this. After seeing them all, I have to say, I like your's the best!!! Take care!!!
Thanks Mike. I appreciate you stopping by! I sure do appreciate it 👍
I cut my 30 inch helium's down to about 17 inches and use a five step aider. They were light originally but too cumbersome in length. Now they are much easier. I'll have to do a video on them soon.
Thanks for watching! Sounds like you were able to modify them to perfectly fit your needs! 👍
I've got the hawk combo on the way from Midway. Versa buttons are already on the way from LW but that step grinding tip is the first thing I'm going to do when I get them. Thank you
It’s a small simple thing, but definitely narrows the profile. Thanks for watching and taking the time to leave a comment. I appreciate it 👍
@@HuntingFarmerOfficial Have you tried attaching the receiver part of the suction cup to your stand so in pairs the sticks "stick" to the stand? There is a video abt this somewhere.
I’ll look that up. Sounds like a great idea. Can you buy extra suction cups from Hawk??
@@HuntingFarmerOfficial when you stack them 2x2 on either side of the seat post you don't need extra cups. Just take the bottom cup off the one on top. The problem I found when doing it is that one side works well but the other side doesn't fit because the platform grate doesn't line up the same. I had to cut half of my tension knob off to get the seat post to lay flat when folded. On a side note, I also grabbed a shoulder harness and lumbar support from an old backpacking pack and now have a fully adjustable harness system to carry it.
I just got the Hawk Mimi. And there are a couple things I'm going to change. I've had one of the suction cup break on me while trying to pull them apart in cold weather, And your Video was good.
There has been some discussion in the comments from other viewers on how to “soften” those suction cups up a bit. If you figure out a way, let us know! 😁
I’m also concerned the colder it gets the stiffer they’ll be ☹️
Bought four Hawk Heliums (full size) from Cabelas two weeks ago. The sticks were a nightmare to pull apart and every mating pair broke--either male or female. Called Hawk; they are well aware of the problem. All they could send me under warranty were replacement male parts until after the season is over. I compared the replacement item with the original. The materials indeed appear different and there is now a radius on the part where it failed.
@@willcoates1587 Hawk did not respond to my email, But what I did was grind out the inside of the female cup using a dremel with small round sanding cup. Also sanding on the male bottom head. They now slide together an apart without a lot of force. I should of did a video of it and posted it but made if Hawk sends me replacement ones I can .
Thank you for the video. I am looking at getting a set. Does the lone wolf versa button interfere with the original stacking method at all? I assume it’s basically the same profile as what comes on the hawk originally but wanted to double check. Thanks for the help.
The versa button does interfere because the bolt head sticks above the button. I countersink the bolt head to eliminate that problem. You also have to stagger the mounting position of the versa buttons to keep them from hitting each other 👍
I made amsteel daisy chain for my mini's and made double amsteel aiders on two bottom sticks and one step aiders for tops two sticks. I love this setup and can get 20ft very easy.
Are you happy with how tight you can make the step with the daisy chain Amstel? That’s high on my list do next. Anything you’d do different? Thanks for watching my video. I just love learning from others when I can👍
@@HuntingFarmerOfficial yeah I'm pretty happy with them. Certain trees I have to go to the next loop on daisy chain and as long as you pull down and set step good they bite in good.
@@gregbowen9546 did you go with a 2 1/2” spacing?
@@HuntingFarmerOfficial no mine loops are closer to 2". Some measure 1 3/4 and some measure 2". I tried to make them as close together as I could and they slide over versa button real nice. As I was making them I didn't measure with tape measure I used the versa button as my guide for size. But if I stretch the rope/loops out flat they measure 1 3/4 to 2". And they fit real good over button and I can keep rope as tight as possible around tree.
@@HuntingFarmerOfficial I'm gonna grind inside of steps so they close together more like you did. Good idea!!
My 30" hawks came with webbing daisy chains. They work well and weigh next to nothing. Much easier to get off that put on. I use 4 hawk 30's. Oddly the single 30" Hawk stick I ordered cam with a buckle. I rope modded it with 1/4" HMWPE from ebay. $12 for 50' and works great. No need for a lone wolf button.
That’s good information! I appreciate you watching and sharing your experience 👍
I have the 30" 2019 sticks and I'm considering the 8mm rope mod. With the button that is already on the stick, how about reducing the gap of the existing button for the ropes to cinch down on each other. Chuck the button up in a lathe or set it up in a mill to take material off the end that contacts the stick. Achieving approximately the same space as if using the Versa Button and a spacer ?
I think that would work! You need that space between the button to “pinch” the rope so what you described should work 👍
Looks great my friend 👍
Thank you John! 👍
Great video, thank you!
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I don't use these kinds of things so I'll have to trust your judgement on how sturdy and reliable your mods are, but if they suit your needs and you feel safe then that's what matters.
Thanks Bill! Have a great weekend 👍
Looking to get into saddle hunting and shopping around these seem to be the most inexpensive sticks around are they pretty rock solid?
I’m still using the Hawk sticks. I’ve been pleased with them (and have used them for many years) 👍
Excellent video
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I am in the market for some climbing sticks myself. I hadn't decided which ones I would want to get.
Thanks for checking out my video! I appreciate it. There are so many options out there. It can be a bit overwhelming. I’m sure you’ll be able to find something that suit your needs 👍
Last question I think. I be heard of some using amsteal vs the rope, any input on this? I think I'm leaning on the 8mm climbing rope like you said.
No worries about questions...that’s how we all learn!! The Amsteel is popular because it’s so lightweight and strong. It does cost more and you won’t be able to use the versa button in the same way. With rope, the two layers of rope pinch together in the button creating a friction that helps hold it tight. The Amsteel won’t do that in the same way.
I bought the sticks my straps have no buckle like lone wolf seems kinda odd ya just wrap around tree and button and let settling in secure it
Thanks for watching. The newest style does just have the loop that goes around the button 👍
Thanks for the review and putting out the measurements. I am considering the Hawks Mini. but I still think the distance between steps might be a little long. Do you think the bottom steps can be moved up, maybe 2 or 3 inches, leaving everything else in place. Just drilling two holes and grinding the inside humps would be the extent of this mod. Really don't want to carry the 30" sticks. Yeah, I'm kinda short, lol.
Thanks for watching! You could move the steps closer. There are holes from the factory (to reduce weight) so you’d have to work around them. 👍
@@HuntingFarmerOfficial Just from looking at pictures, it seems like the the Top Step can move down to the just above the stand off (1.5 - 2 "drop) ; move the stand off to the bumper, bumper to Versa Button position and drop the versa button a couple inches. Or, just move the stand off to the space above the Versa Button. Either of those of those mod would require drilling 3 holes. Should be minimal impact on structural integrity. Also with the Versa button lower, I can place the stick higher on the tree. I'll know soon enough wen I get my sticks. Off course, if the step distance isn't an issue....no mod will be done.
Do you have a suggestion for how to break in the suction cups on the newer sticks? I bought some recently and they are quite the pain to get separated, especially quietly. Did they eventually get easier for you to take them apart?
Mine are still fairly stiff still. I would also like to soften them up somehow but haven’t found a way yet. I’m concerned as winter approaches they are only going to get worse ☹️
@@HuntingFarmerOfficial Yeah, that was my exact fear too. What I ended up doing was using a utility knife and shaved out a portion of the receiver cup. I just cut, and then checked periodically. I eventually got to a point where they hold well still but are not difficult to remove.
I think I may give that a try also. Thanks for the tip 👍
Heat gun. Soften them up briefly and quickly put them together and take them apart. Then repeat. DON'T MELT THE CUPS. Be careful.
Nice climbing stick review
Thank you! 👍
Is there a cheaper way to get 3 lone wolf versa buttons? Lone wolf is 6 buck a piece which isn't bad by 12 dollars to ship?
You could watch eBay etc. At $12 shipping would practically double their cost. You could always order a dozen of them and the shipping would only be a dollar a piece. 😂🤣😂
Thanks
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Excellent job
Thank you! I appreciate you stopping by Scott👍
HuntingFarmer as always Dave
I know this video is old but the hawk Mini stick comes with Daisy chains and not that big bulky strap. It's lighter
That’s good to know. Thanks for watching and for the information 👍
How do you pack your modified 24” sticks? Thanks
Thanks for watching. I countersunk the veras button bolt heads so the sticks pack together nicely. They are slightly staggered like from the factory 👍
Something new to me didn't even know something like this even existed. Lol
See, we learn something new everyday! 😁
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One issue, not yours, but I've had to deal with warranty customer service and found it's a any way to get out of warranty or service is their priority.
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Very nice 👍
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3lbs 6.1oz is not 3.6 lbs. 6.1 oz is .38 lbs. Should be 3.38 lbs.
Thanks for watching! You’re right. My mouth moves faster than my brain most days. 😂
wow cool environment
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Interesting!
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Great video 👍3
Thank you 👍
I appreciate your information. However, you were talking decimal but your scale was set to ounces.
Good catch! You’re right! Thanks for watching 👍
How tall are you for stick ref
Thanks for watching. I’m 5’11”
this totally new to me would of like to see them in actual use on a tree.
I demonstrate them in this video. You can skip to 10:39mark in that video for the demo👍
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@@HuntingFarmerOfficial Great video thanks for the link HuntingFarmer.....
It would be interesting to count the number of times "ahhh" is used... whoooo.
Sorry for my bad habit. I appreciate you watching regardless 😁👍
Very informative! However your scale is set to read pounds and ounces. For example you stated the full length stick plus buckle weighed 3.6 lbs. and that is NOT what your scale read. It actually said 3 lbs. 6.1 ounces. Similar mis-reading was done with each weight.
Good catch! You’re 100% correct. I was reading the scale wrong. Thanks for watching and paying close attention 👍
Thanks for the video!
Are these sticks made in the US?
No, like almost all of them, they are from overseas 🙁
@@HuntingFarmerOfficial novix claims on their site that their sticks are made in the US. Shikar as well. But yeah, most of the others are from china
@@HuntingFarmerOfficial I'm leaning towards the novix 32 in. double step sticks. They look like they're gonna be good ones
That's not the full product show them with the original straps
Ounces=pounds and pounds=pain
True!!! Thanks for watching. I appreciate it 👍
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It’s a terrible habit of mine (that and my flailing hands) 😂
Thanks for watching 👍