Worn/slipping centrifugal ATV clutch symptoms and a cheap fix
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- Опубліковано 2 сер 2024
- Centrifugal ATV clutches don't wear out that often, but this is what happens when they do, and a cheap way to get some more life out of your old clutch.
This 90s Kawasaki KLF300b (Bayou 300) Has been abused and neglected. The Centrifugal clutch is severely worn and slipping badly. - Авто та транспорт
I would imagine that the thumbs down are from shops not wanting the people to know you can fix this so cheaply yourself ! Great video man !!
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You are a mechanic that FIXES, not assembles new parts! Great video!
I did this today on my 1987 Suzuki quad runner 300 that was slipping very badly (it would barely move) and same thing happened, the clutch drum had deep groves and the clutch had worn down a lot. So I did the same(removed the grooves with a flappy disk and used the dremal to regroove the clutch) and it does not slip anymore! THANKS MAN for the vid! Very helpful.
is the nut to remove the clutch drnm left or right
Thanks again for takin your time for the video and audio,the more we get to know the more we realize how little we know.regards TW Canada s west coast
Really great demonstration and diagnostic video!
I’ve been needing to see this for a whole year super glad you took the time to make the video!
The first videos I found didn't explain much. You explained everything. Now I understand the problem that just showed up on mine. Thank you.
This is amazing. Thank you so much for showing how all that works. I would have just replaced the whole assembly (which means for some older ATVs, it is cheaper to junk it), but this extends the life with a pretty easy fix.
No I've been searching all over the place for videos on what my four wheelers been doing and this video is exactly what my four wheeler was doing so great great video it just helped me find a problem with mine
Just bought a Kawasaki bayou klf220 (late 80's early 90's model) that is doing almost exact same, maybe a little worse. Going to try this DIY method this weekend. Great video and very thankful for it!
11mo later did it work😂
Even if I dont do it , it was great video that shows the problem real well , explains the clutch workings and shows a cheap fix., well done. Thank you!
Thanks for the video, great explanation and good tips for repairs if you do not want to spend money that does not need to be spent - especially on old bikes that are just for fun rides. Cheers!
😅 God Bless You I have one just like it with same problem. You explained repair perfectly I replaced the churches but still won't move I did not know I could recut groves in the other clutch I will give it a try. Thanks so much
I have a 1986 Kawasaki bayou 300 2x4 and I need to do that same exact job and now I know how to do it lolz. Thank you for that video. I'm gonna be re surfacing the drum and I'm gonna put 4 new clutch shoes and springs in. It's only like 60 bucks. And I suspect that there's nothing wrong with the other clutch pack for the shifter just like on your machine. Sweet now I'm gonna have a good four wheeler again!!!
Great video, right to the point....
Thanks very much for the information dude
Well having same problem now I know what to try
Great video..... I have the same problem with my ATV and I'm going to follow your instructions and see if it helps. I'll comment again with the results.
Works?
@@rolls3965 Took it all apart but haven't done anything else yet. I ordered a new gasket and primary clutch plates and will wait until they are delivered before cleaning the grooves on the centrifugal clutch. I'll post the results after I'm all done.
getting the most out of your stuff its the way i like it you are a beast my man! gonna fix my atc200 for free this summer 🤘
Great video !!
you might chuck that grinding disc in a drill press and use the table to raise and or lower the pads.
Good job and thankyou for the video
freaking brain buster thanks for this video
That is amazing im gonna try it on mine
Might try this on my yamaha big bear, it revs really high in first and second and doesn't pick up much speed till 3rd or 4th
I know this is a old video but I’m hoping you can help me... on the friction plates does it matter where the notches on the ends of the plates go?
Very good. Thanks a lot.
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Incredibly helpful, about to do this on my 2003 Bayou 300. Question, what’s the proper torque when I put the nut back on that holds the centrifugal clutch in place? Also: what type and weight oil would you recommend for a quad with these clutch issues?
Not sure about torque. This is rat quad so I just zipped it down with an impact and didn't worry about it. 10w-40 Motorcycle or ATV oil, needs to be rated for wet clutch use.
Use Oil with No Friction Modifiers. This may be what happened to the one I'm working on. I just put regular 10w- 40 Did not Know until I started reading more about this quad.
@@rickyoshields6256 Anything with a wet clutch needs an oil rated for wet clutch use. Normal oil will cause the clutches to slip.
Ours is stuck on NOT slipping tried adjusting jamming on brakes whilst accelerating. We tried engine breaking and it’s not letting go, stuck solid
very well explained, thanks, so easy, a caveman could do it!
I got an older yamamaha moto 4, light constantly says neutral when I shift it and get on it the speedometer moves like I’m operating it, but the quad isn’t moving an inch
what size is the Centrifugal clutch bolt?
Awesome
Great video. One thing you didn't touch on is the adjusters. I have an 01 Bayou 300 4x4 that all the forums said you only had to adjust the top clutch adjuster. After I got a manual I learned different. I found my lower adjuster feels like it's not on anything, won't tighten in either direction as described. What's your best guess on what I'll find inside? I was going to wait until I got the gasket in, but it's slipping under a load in the upper gears. pulls fine in 1st & 2nd, so I'm cracking it open tomorrow.
I Didn't mess with the adjusters since my shift clutch was fine. They should only be for the shift clutch, which is only activated when you shift. If it's slipping under high load but takes off fine your shift clutch is likely worn out and slipping under heavy load.
Both of my clutches look pretty good. The centrifugal clutch has a few nicks, but not bad at all. I found the lower adjuster moves the cam release piece slightly left, or right. Not sure why yet.
@@jackhenhoeffer1581 The non centrifugal one.
I have the same issue
Did you ever figure it out
nice work, sounds like your valves need adjustment
Already tried that. They still rattle. Rat quad is just rattly.
Excellent information!!! I got a strange situation going on myself. We bought a used 1998 bayou 300 4x4 1-owner for my daughter. It ran ok after I put stock oem carb on it . But less than 15 min of ride time into ownership the rear prop shaft was chewing up the differentials gear because the rear prop shaft bearing was completely destroyed. This made some load screeching noises an felt like clutch slipping when getting heavy in the throttle . After replacing the differential an prop shaft with good used ones it now will barley move itself you can actually hear the clutch slipping . Oh plus I changed oil prior to riding because owner said it had been 7 years ! I put good wet clutch oil in it . I’m about to inspect clutch I suppose. Also I tried adjusting clutch and it did not work. It almost sounds like something loose inside. Any guesses on what may be issue before I open it up?
You could have a slipping clutch or something may have just broken from the stress.
@@pfun41 replaced the clutch and it is better for now
2 questions please,,, When you took the Wet clutch off and Cut the lines in the clutch and reassembled the One way bearing witch way did the one way bearing go back in. mine has a Little Lip on one side about a 1/2 inch long and I'm thinking this Goes Down in the slot of the housing. and the 1996 KLF 300B that I'm working on would not pull at all so I'm just going to replace the clutch that you cut the Lines in. am I on the right track here please inform me if I'm incorrect. the little 11 year old would not change the gears when driving so I think he just burnt the clutch up. but I don't think it is the one with all the rings. I have rewired this Puppy for him and rebuilt Carb and she ran good for about 3 Months but then it stopped Pulling all together. any help would be greatly appreciated and a big thumbs up on your UA-cam Video.
If you have it in right the outer clutch drum should spin freely counter clockwise but lock to the crankshaft when you spin it clockwise.
LOL great job but don't forget your front tires are directional going the wrong way :) Thanks for the video
They were kinda bald anyway. I don't think it's gonna hurt much at this point.
I have a 220 Bayou and it runs good just when you try to put it in gear it dies but if you push it it'll go on
That sounds like you have a sticking clutch.
What’s the part actually called so I can order a new one
what's do you torque the shift clutch bolts on the springs to? or just did them tight>?
I have a Yamaha Wolverine with the same setup. My problem is the engine revs freely in neutral, but when you try to take off from a standstill, it stumbles and hesitates. If I engage the clutch by holding the shifter up with my toe, I can rev the engine, then drop into gear and take off normally. Would that be a clutch or carb problem?
The engine stumbles? That would be a carb or engine problem.
thank you for info a have a 01 Yamaha wolvine 350and i am haveing clutch problems so i think its kinda the same clutch and i use it to plow snow so its does have a load i noticed it acts up when trying to go at first then now it dont move( it had a oil line brake but shut it off fast) and it dont work right now any good clutches?
I usually go OEM for internal components on ATV so I couldn't tell you what brand to use otherwise.
Man you got that idle set waaay to high!
I have a trx250r and when i go slow i get a gringing sound and feeling coming from somewhere around the front sprocket next to the motor. It doesnt happen when i take off fast
That doesn't sound like a clutch issue.
My son's Bayou 220 has the opposite problem with the clutch. If you put it in gear it dies. You can rev it up and put it in gear and it will drive but I made him park it until I can get it fixed so it won't further damage the gear box. I'm going to tear it down this weekend. What should I be looking for? Bad one way clutch?
Hey i have 220 bayou and it dies when i try put it in gear any idea. but if you push it a little it gos on
@@roysmith2770 It turns out that the nut holding the clutch on had tightened up to the point it wasn't allowing the clutch to disengage. I removed it and then loctited the nut and let it set up for a couple of days making sure the clutch operated properly before hand. It has worked perfectly ever since.
I have a kawaski bayou 220 when i shift into 1st it makes a grinding nosise, then when i push it forward and backwards then it drive in 1st
That doesn't sound like a clutch issue to me.
What was your problem at the end?
I have problem my atv 110 runs in 1 gear good but when i put it in 2 gear it jumps to 3 than back to 2 and that always
Those 110s use a completely different design, but it sounds like you have an issue with the shift drum and not the clutch.
What year is yours??
Ive replace clutches and Centrifugal clutch and it still slips , any ideas ?
Did you soak the new clutches in motor oil and are you using a motor oil rated for wet clutches?
I have the exact opposite issue. I can pop wheelies in 1st. 2nd is good to. Higher gears it slips. Need new clutch plates?
Did you ever find an answer?
@@gumbilitous2804 I actually did this process and have had reasonable results so far.
awnser?
please adjust the valves and camchain
I did after this.
When it was going out did it make any noise under a load?
If I did I couldn't hear it, the pipe on this thing is ungodly loud.
I've been working on one, and it loses power past half throttle? it seems to take off okay, and shifts okay, but once you getting it going it won't go past 20mph, you can push the throttle past half all the way to full and nothing happens? I have no idea what it is, but I've just spent 4 months working on rebuilding the whole front end and part of the rear end as well as a new carb, but can't figure this issue out?
So it doesn't rev out any more after half throttle?
@@pfun41 When it neutral i think it revs fine, but when you get going, like in third gear or more, it doesn't.
@@bobperley3689 Sounds more like a carburetor or engine issue. If its clutch related the engine will rev way out but you won't move faster.
hrmm, don't think its the carb because i bought a new carb, and the old one did the same thing. I thought it might be just the throttle cable? but when I press throttle all the way in it seems to work properly on the carb, although it's really hard to press. I dunno, but I already gave the wheeler back so it's out of my life, hopefully for good, lol. Thanks though, atleast I know its not the clutch.
@@bobperley3689 Hey Bob. I know you said you gave the Unit back. but if you ever have that problem again I would look at the choke lever and cable that comes in to the top of the Carb. it has two slots in it and it is real easy to get this Backwards the longer cut grove in the Tube should be the lowest pin of the two on the inside of the Carb and of course if the bent line going into it is broken you will have issues with the Throttle
My trx250r feels like something grinds when first taking off slow but after going it doesn't feel anything . What could be the problem
Sounds like you've got metal to metal contact on your centrifugal clutch. In other words it's completely shot.
Is that expensive
@@juantellez9280 IDK Ive never priced a trx250 clutch.
Have a 185 bayou have replaced both clutch’s primary and secondary but still getting slip any ideas would it be anything to do with the shaft slippin as it’s shaft driven??
Might need to have the shift clutch adjusted.
Tried that is that not only for the gear level lossen or tighten adjustment of the pedal ? I e the if the quads jumping once u select your gear
@@davidmilliken573 That is odd. Only thing I can think of is something didn't go together right and the clutch isn't able to engage.
pfun41 what would you suggest ??
Also once tightening the clutch springs how much do u tighten? Till it’s sitting on the spring nice or compressing the spring tight?
Can you help me out I bought one for like 500 but it doesn't have strength to pull unless I lift it in the air and they muffler is missing screws can that be a reason?
Missing muffler screws won't cause that. If it revs out freely but doesn't move its a clutch issue. If it revs just a little and doesn't move you have a power issue.
How deep should the grooves be
No grooves in the drum, for the shoes it's going to vary by how worn they are. You don't want to cut down to the metal, just enough so the oil can be expelled from between the shoe and drum. Shouldn't take much.
Hello, my atv seems to run fine in 1st and 2nd then when I get to 3rd there’s no power .. what do you think ??
Probably a carburetor issue if it's not revving out.
Was it making a whining sound also?
Not that I recall
Great video!
I’m having same symptoms on my 300 4x4 but I’m getting a clunking noise if I start to go up hill in 2nd gear. Like a pretty bad knocking/clunking. The clunk is there slightly in 1st and second then becomes unnoticeable.
Clunk is much less noticeable or perhaps non existent when the bike is in neutral. Is this another issue of a damaged clutch or worse? Help!
Sounds like an issue in the drivetrain. It doesn't clunk in neutral because it's not under load.