THESE FINS WILL CHANGE THE WAY YOU SURF
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- Опубліковано 17 лис 2023
- In this day and age, there’s some incredible surf technology coming out that we can take advantage of to enhance our time in the water. Today, I wana talk about fins; specifically the new Futures Blackstix range.
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Great vid about a subject that is often overlooked by many. I remember hearing Wayne lynch say that fins can change 40% of how a board performs/responds.
You missed 1 element out. Size of fin.
That’s easy to understand yourself tho
Yeah big factor! Hope to cover in another video - can’t cover everything at once
@@foxgd9117 In what way? If you take the manufacturers recommendation of fin size per your weight then yeah I suppose so. But if your more high intermediate to advanced then the recommended Fin Size to weight isn’t necessarily always the right choice. For example, Sometimes a smaller fin on larger waves work better than a large fin, or a smaller centre fin in a tri setup will make a board more lively, and obviously when riding twinnies or 2+1’s the side fins are much larger than a standard tri or quad sets. Recently Kai Lenny is promoting large rear quads over the traditional large front-smaller rear quad sets. So theres actually quite a but of content there to cover.
@@eatsurfsleeprepeat5485your right. Bigger fins in small waves are a option for pros and medium or smaller fins in big waves for less drag, but it doesn’t get that advanced just everyone seems to get it the wrong way around
I have an old Rusty piranha. Really old. Rode it with blackstix for ever. Bought some neutral fiberglass very stiff fins and wow what a difference. They gave the board much better hold in more solid beachbreak. Still like the blackstix but these are my new step up fin set. Felt like old glassed in fins of the 90s
Really helpful, thank you. I wish Futures would sort out the UK website as it offers so much less choice than in US/AU.
Twenty years ago I got a board with the EA future fins template, made from solid fibreglass, I could feel they were to stiff but otherwise liked the feel. So, I bought the same template in Blackstix construction. Mind blowing difference!
Over the years I collected a few templates that I like in a few different constructions. Always amazed at how such subtle differences can have such a huge impact on how a board feels.
That's interresting. I honestly can't feel much difference between different fins as long as they are same setup and not overly experimental. As long as they are about the same size and look somewhat normal, they will all feel normal too. I think much of it is in marketing and in peoples heads.
Great description of the different fin dimensions and elements. This is always confusing. Those waves looked super fun.
Thanks for watching!
That shot of the dolphins at 1.55 is so good
Lovely wAves. Funnnnn. Nice style bro
very interesting. keep up the good work
Love this video! great content. Fins are make or break in any board.
Interesting, I'll have to take a sponsored video with a grain of salt but would be cool to try these regardless to see the difference.
Thanks for your videos always 💚.
Thanks :) we are only partnering with brands who we see adding real value to surfing 😊
A fin's ability to flex and recoil back greatly increases the responsiveness to a surfboard. Take an otherwise sluggish board and upgrade the fins, its a game changer!
I use the 2+1 Blackstix on my GSkate🤙🏼 I’ve noticed a difference for the better with the speed and how they cut/glide through the water compared to the 2+1 CI Gudauska Bro’s made for the board.
In break break conditions, I only use Blackstix!! Love the LIFT and SPEED!!!
Great piece! I just watched another video yesterday on JS carbon boards and apparently they’ve also developed a new fin that is revolutionary. If all these fins are as good as the manufacturer says then I’ve gotta start buying a lot more fins 😂
!!!Man this’s a great video
good point! i have the HS2 pivot template (M size) from futures/Haydenshapes, very little less flex than blackstix. i'am 65Kg intermediate+ level. very fast for small waves 50cm to 1.2m weak conditions. depending of your board and size of your tail...for more powerfull waves fins have to control power , not generate it. neutral or rake depending of the shape of the waves (have Mayem neutral for classic break and AM1 honeycomb for open faces).
Great Video - Thanks Kale! Starting with which Board Size does it make sense to start upgrading fins?
I'm riding a 6,6 / 39 Liters and did some fin testing. To be honest: everything I put on, incl. speed generating fins, didn't feel as good as my "good old plastic fins" :D:D Was surprised myself. But I was thinking, it might be my stance - since I'm mostly very central on my board - midlength style. Meaning, I don't have my backfoot right over the fins very often. Might this be a reason for the experience? Or in other words - do you think, you can only start properly feeling the influence of your fins on your surfing when you are "stepping" on them properly / applying pressure? Which is probably mostly the case with shorter boards?
You should give a review on the AU curved fins out of California
I wish this went a little more in depth as far as varying the size and shape. I just learned the other day that the bigger the wave you want smaller fins because they work with speed, so if you're going real fast your fin works better. This is such a huge subject! I'm really excited to try out Slater's hollow (they float!) Endorfins.
Not sure that's 100% correct - you can ride a smaller fin in larger waves if you're riding a bigger board, because you're using a board with a longer rail line and that provides hold and grip, so you aren't solely relying on the fin. I hope that makes sense!
your bigger wave board has more rocker, so you can se a stiffer raked fin to add drive, a less rockered board becomes to stiff to turn with carbon stiff fins, (and already has a lot of drive) so you need more flexy fins, with a pivot template, in my experience..
Just got a new board, but they only had it in FCS, what would be the best option for FCS
Wassup Kale!!?🤙 What do you think of the Town and country 2+1 setup?? I am enjoying it but what do you think of them??? 😁
Kale love your vid’s I wanna surf just like you
Surf like the best version of you!
Where is this spot
Looks just like my home break in nor cal
will it work on quads ?
I just got the pivot blackstix and wow they made a stiff board feel electric great fins
Had the same experience, Blackstix pivots, wow
Did you get the Blackstix twin + 1? Such a good twin set to add some spice to your board!
Nah I haven’t tried that yet!
Great vid. I’m stuck with fcs 2. What would the comparable comparison be? Neutral fin, same template, only changing materials. Fcs dosent really give the best descriptions of each material. Only “for fast, critical surfig”. Lol
They have pc carbon which is stiff.. they have performance core which is best imo.. then they have neo glass for the most flex..
Try the MR 2+1s they're epic.. I also like Kolohe andinos and hs stiff fins for easier turning on those tight boards..
Kolohes for good waves
Was that your camera man? Looks like a real nice guy. I think he could benefit from changing his weighting on the board more, to the front to gain more speed, and lifting the nose to get light enough to get up the wave, to enable turns up into the wave. I may not know what I'm talking about, it's just from my personal experience and could be completely wrong.
Fins make a massive difference 100% .
I’ve tried AM1 blackstix on one board and the F6 blackstix on a different board. They generate speed well but when I get too much speed I find it wobbles and doesn’t track straight.
Interesting. I only found they were shaky in waves over 4-5 foot :)
At which point I would swap to the legacy
I found the same in 3-4 ft mushier waves. It must be the flex because it didn’t happen on the Hs fins that have foil too. Personally I prefer the consistency of honeycomb and techflex
yes flat foil is easier to control in turns compared to inside foil unless super weak and clean.
Can we get a name for 05:00 music please
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Same Glidz！
flex is the key.
good race braap
I’ve had 2 pairs of black stick. For bigger surfers these fins don’t spring back. It feels like they flop over when pumping or placing the board on rail. Does anyone else have this problem?
Hmmm interesting - maybe a size issue?
@@KalesBroccoli definitely not a size issue. I had the Craig Anderson fins, which were one of future’s biggest fins. And I also had the Rusty’s, which I also had in a different material. The other material fins worked fine.
I have the exact same problem. I weigh 190ish and like to do hard rail turns and the blacksticks feel like absolute shit unless its tiny. My go to fin is the AM2 in honeycomb when its small and techflex when its pumping.
@@AlexanderBoutilier my go to fin for large soft shoulder waves is also the AM2. My beach break more pockety wave fins are the John John’s. For xxl waves I use the Pancho’s. All are honeycomb accept the John John’s, which are tech flex.
I’m sold. I'm off to my local surf store.
Definitely a game changer for shit waves! For small waves or mush like the camera guy had, I go to the pivot blacksticks (yellows). Totally notice more speed and easier turning without sinking the tail. Bigger waves/ faster and I’ll go F8 blacksticks or G10 fiberglass.
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What’s your board and size?
See my board update video recently
After all this talk about flex, makes me wonder if fins lose that springiness over their life, kind of like a 4X4 glassed board. Theres no stringer in the fins, but I'm sure the same theory applies to some extent?
Interesting question!
Feels to bought and paid for 😂
What size fins are you on?
Mediums
I honestly cant feel any difference between different fins as long as they are same setup and not overly experimental. As long as they look normal, they will all feel normal to me. I think much of it is in marketing and in peoples heads.
As you get better you’ll notice!
@@KalesBroccoliI might, but then again most surfers will never get to that level.
I can't afford that. Thanks Albo.
FCS II H4 carbon fins all day long
Same. Effortless speed that you can push as hard as you like.
fcs2 equivalent anyone?
My guess would be the Reactors in the Carbon construction. Maybe the JS carbons could be a close fit as well. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
@@MH_347 I believe they are a lot more stiff. FCS don't have an equivalent as far as I'm aware
@@joshsaacks8822the Fcs performer and reactor in Neo Glass have a very snappy rebound like the blackstix. I like futures fins, but I actually find the blackstix too soft if you push too hard they can overflex and the board can stall. Prefer the honeycomb in futures.
It looks like you are riding a medium fin? Why is that?
He’s like 5’8 80kg
Appropriate size for me
@@KalesBroccoli Very interesting to learn that, a bit surprised actually as I assumed you would be riding large, based on your skill and weight. Noel Salas is 72kg and recommends surfers his size rise a size large fin. In an interview with Lakey Peterson she said she is riding a size L and she is sub 59kg. Filipe rides a large and he is sub 70kg. I'm 6'1 and 72kg and have recently moved to a large fin based on the above info, It feels very draggy and difficult to turn the board. Honestly I'm very confused, maybe medium fins are best for me after all.
What wetsuit are you wearing!
See my wetsuit update video recently
@@KalesBroccoli oh my god I'm so sorry, I haven't checked my notifications and you have replied to every comment,
Sorry!
You need too know how to surf good before you know how fins work these videoed are for the amateur surfers , I had them and thought they where shit , give me AM2s any day
190$....🥲