I know of Frank Scoblete.I have read his books. The statistics I was referring to do not involve "idiot" or, any other gamblers' individual success rate (yours or mine included).They are mathematically defined normal fluctuation. It is important to note that just 2 Standard Deviations from the expected result is statistically accurate 95% of the time, 3 is 99.7%. I believe there is an art form to dice control, with a scientific element involved (arm speed, angle of the throw etc.).continued....
I have the same thing except I use my cheap home pool table as the felt. The dice landing on mine sounds exactly like yours which means it is not the same table as casino table as the dice don't make the same sound in casino and thus, the experiment can not be duplicated in real game. The result is, no matter how you set the dice, either 4-2 or any other combination, unless you have a real casino crap table, you can't duplicate the same results. After hours of practice, I still 7 out quickly.
ultimately you want primary numbers, but that is the beauty of the hardway set, either dice can go off axis one click and you are still good. You need the 1 and 6 every now and then to hit all the numbers.
teezboo I only shoot a hard way when I'm trying to get one dice to go off access it makes your odds better one die off axis on a hard way to many think every throw has to be on axis I disagree I believe it depends on your grip throw force of throw and landing zone shooting position for what dice set to use and I like the hard way for off axis throwing and yes I have had more luck in actually casino play when shooting to get one die off axis
taking note that the dice control is super, realistically you have to have better control with your dice. where you have them flying apart, you have to dodge and avoid other players chips that get in way from time to time. Had great rolls (20+ majority field numbers) that came to a end because of those damn chips killing the spin of the dice
for setting up in the 4/2 hardway, your rolling alot of 6s and 1s. Im new to the whole dice control thing, but should you not be coming up with these faces if you are getting proper rolls? Thanks the the video.
Add a sheet under your felt and you will get more spring and quieter sound. You don't need to worry about duplicating the sound or the dice reaction. You only need to be able to duplicate your practice throw at the real tables. Consistency in practice will pay off with consistency when money is on the line. I threw 2 4 point fires in a row at 2 different tables. Practice pays off.
@teezboo your totally right about that. getting them to the back wall is the most important but i never heard anything about the last two things they told you.
@calvin19082 it doesn't matter but use the same set all the time. Use it until you can see frequencies with that particular set. Then bet into those frequencies and you will have an edge.
Have not taken the GTC course but have the videos. I have a few different techniques based on what the table is giving me. Depending on felt. GTC recommends one method only but I have practiced several to where I'm confident in all of them.
Hi, amazing, appreciate your work here. BTW, i am ordering the things to build my rig. I wanna order the felt from amazon costing $11. But I am think that would not give any bounce like the real casino. Should I order the premium rubber layout or put something under the felt? And did you make some cash from the casino so far? Thank you very much.
That was an awesome practice session. Based on your rolling with the hardway 4/2 set, I've tracked your primary numbers as 8,9,10 with left side dice 3, 4 and right side dice 5, 3, 6. Wow! 25 rolls and 3 points made. Cheers! here is your tracking chart talkcraps.com/teezboo.png
nice craps table good video i learned about axis, i noticed the 44/22 set produced a 6 and a 1 around 14 out of 24 times 0.5833 58% so 42% of the time you were on axis, 8out of 20 shots were textbook.
As beginner, just seeing you keep the dice on the table and close together (not to mention the 24 rolls) is a sign of dice control. I too, would like to see the throw technique and where you stand.
Craig Ramsey ----> Having stacks of chips right where you land the dice and bumps against them, really changes the out come on the roll even if you are setting the dice.
TheyCallhim Lighting -----> Yes, I agree with you, but just like Craig Ramsey posted, when you have 4 people with stacks of chips on the pass line , plus each person has 4 stacks of chips for odds behind them, and the chip are right where you want to land your dice after you have set them, this often changes the axis of the two dice if either one of them bangs into the stack of chips. I set dice and I have had this happen to me.
Yes, I agree with you. This changes the whole out come of me setting the dice and then having one dice of both of them hit a stack of chips. My only option is to throw the dice in a corner on the table.
I've never been kicked off. I've been warned many times about hitting the back wall with BOTH dice. I've also been asked to move farther from the back wall and I've been asked to throw the dice farther away from the back wall to allow them to bounce higher (I used to throw into the crack of the wall and the table and it would kill the dice immediately.) Tipping the dealers DOES help.
he clearly explains his fault in why the six or one shows. That right there shows that he has a complete understanding of setting the dice and controlling them. It is to mitigate the probability of a 7 showing. On mathematical average a 7 should have shown after or within 6 throws...he threw 24 times. He absolutely has control!!
Much improvement since this video was made. The distance was a little farther than needed to be.. I've since moved close, and softened the throw. Much less explosion off the felt.
It does not matter but you should use the same set everytime for a long time to see what the numbers are that you tend to throw. Then you can bet into this edge.
@TheCliffsbs The felt I purchased online. I will be replacing it with Billiard felt as recommended by the pros. The wood was purchased at homedepot and cut to specs. The rubber diamonds was also purchased online. Do NOT cut the rubber piece. It's heavy, just set it on top and bent the ends like my rig shows on the video. The rubber will stay in place and mimic a perfect craps table.
don't buy cheap felt then add rubber underneath. If you are going for the real table felt, then go with the synthetic layout. It's pricey but you can cut what you need for your station and sell the other portion to others. Synthetic is bouncy and what the casinos are using these days.
You used the 4/2 set for each shot? Man, looks like someone could make a good roll very profitable. I want to go to the tables with someone who can make those 4s and 10s, press place bets on them and you're $100 a roll after they hit 4 times.
The casino table has a Different Bounce. Absolutely not the same. This table is Hard. You also have to take in account chips on the table and Distance.
@702SharpShooter I have made significant improvements since making this video. When using the hardway set, I rely on some randomness with the ace and 6 going off axis but not at the same time.
you need to look into how to properly grip the dice and how to properly throw the dice. You can set the dice like a champ everytime, however if your grip and throw is crap then there is no point in setting the dice.
I also believe Frank can do it. However, the same can be said for a Major League pitcher. Pick any great one. Now how many people can do it? The percentage of those who try to be that good compared to the the Cy Youngs' of the world are miniscule. Frank can make stacks, but for 99.99% of the rest of the would be arms in a casino, it's not likely. If you really had that advantage, you would win well beyond any standard deviation and win big. I'm guessing money management wins more for you. GL!
Then I shall refer you to researching Frank Scoblete. You can find the History channel special on "breaking Vegas" where it does a 50 minutes documentary on Frank and another man making stacks! I on the other hand can tell you that when I play craps I dont win stupid amounts of money. However I am there long enough to watch the table change over 3-4 times with the random rolers. Point being with advantage playing you can out last probability. Statistics are created off of idiot gamblers.
Go practice at a casino. Bet pass line and don't pass at same time. Occasionally bet odds behind them if you like the number. Won't cost you a bunch of money actually learning on the real deal. Be nice if I lived in Vegas.
Not a strategy if it is only for practicing your throw at a casino to keep from losing a ton of money. What is the point to practicing at home all the time and never trying it at a casino?
What's the point of practicing at the casino when all shooters are random? Nobody has special skills that make their rolls lower the probability of rolling any number. You have a 1 in 6 chance of rolling a 7 just like everyone else
I keep double pitching the dice. Please help me!! My dice is on axis majority of the time, my grip is straight and the projectile arc on both dice when launched are aligned not staggered. What's wrong with my throw. Btw the table is bouncy.
When you dice set , you are trying to shoot and deaden the dice against the wall. You NEVER DO THAT!!! Every roll is just standard deviation. Your rolls are REALLY BAD!!!!!!!!
There is no surefire way to win! The Casino always has the edge any winning just consider it a loan!! But this guy and many others have poven dice control.
That could be said for hundreds of tutorials on UA-cam. Just because he posts a video doesn't mean "one " would become an advantage craps player over night. BTW great Video @teezboo!
***** It is all bullshit, and hype. There is nothing you are going to find that will give you an edge at this game. You are not going to get this money back, but only lose more. If you must play the game, play only the very best bets and nothing else. If you don't know what I mean by that statement, you shouldn't be playing the game. And play small and have fun. The only thing that playing large proves is: That large players lose a lot of money and smaller players lose less money.
Nice roll - but you had a 6 or 1 come up on nearly every roll....so not very 'controlled'. When your 6 and 1 come up, by definition you're NOT on axis...Lots of 6/3's and 5/1's in this session. But, still a nice roll.
What I love about this video is he seven out once in almost 10 minutes of play. Great job homie.
I know of Frank Scoblete.I have read his books. The statistics I was referring to do not involve "idiot" or, any other gamblers' individual success rate (yours or mine included).They are mathematically defined normal fluctuation. It is important to note that just 2 Standard Deviations from the expected result is statistically accurate 95% of the time, 3 is 99.7%. I believe there is an art form to dice control, with a scientific element involved (arm speed, angle of the throw etc.).continued....
Awesome Dice 4/2 control!
I have the same thing except I use my cheap home pool table as the felt. The dice landing on mine sounds exactly like yours which means it is not the same table as casino table as the dice don't make the same sound in casino and thus, the experiment can not be duplicated in real game. The result is, no matter how you set the dice, either 4-2 or any other combination, unless you have a real casino crap table, you can't duplicate the same results. After hours of practice, I still 7 out quickly.
ultimately you want primary numbers, but that is the beauty of the hardway set, either dice can go off axis one click and you are still good. You need the 1 and 6 every now and then to hit all the numbers.
teezboo
I only shoot a hard way when I'm trying to get one dice to go off access it makes your odds better one die off axis on a hard way to many think every throw has to be on axis I disagree I believe it depends on your grip throw force of throw and landing zone shooting position for what dice set to use and I like the hard way for off axis throwing and yes I have had more luck in actually casino play when shooting to get one die off axis
taking note that the dice control is super, realistically you have to have better control with your dice. where you have them flying apart, you have to dodge and avoid other players chips that get in way from time to time. Had great rolls (20+ majority field numbers) that came to a end because of those damn chips killing the spin of the dice
for setting up in the 4/2 hardway, your rolling alot of 6s and 1s. Im new to the whole dice control thing, but should you not be coming up with these faces if you are getting proper rolls? Thanks the the video.
Seeing is believing! Ainokea what people think. You either have it or you don't! I do. Mahalo from Honolulu.
Add a sheet under your felt and you will get more spring and quieter sound. You don't need to worry about duplicating the sound or the dice reaction. You only need to be able to duplicate your practice throw at the real tables. Consistency in practice will pay off with consistency when money is on the line. I threw 2 4 point fires in a row at 2 different tables. Practice pays off.
@teezboo your totally right about that. getting them to the back wall is the most important but i never heard anything about the last two things they told you.
@calvin19082 it doesn't matter but use the same set all the time. Use it until you can see frequencies with that particular set. Then bet into those frequencies and you will have an edge.
Have not taken the GTC course but have the videos. I have a few different techniques based on what the table is giving me. Depending on felt. GTC recommends one method only but I have practiced several to where I'm confident in all of them.
Hi, amazing, appreciate your work here. BTW, i am ordering the things to build my rig. I wanna order the felt from amazon costing $11. But I am think that would not give any bounce like the real casino. Should I order the premium rubber layout or put something under the felt? And did you make some cash from the casino so far? Thank you very much.
That was an awesome practice session. Based on your rolling with the hardway 4/2 set, I've tracked your primary numbers as 8,9,10 with left side dice 3, 4 and right side dice 5, 3, 6. Wow! 25 rolls and 3 points made. Cheers! here is your tracking chart talkcraps.com/teezboo.png
Nice work.. where do you find tables to practice at? I'm in Las Vegas....
nice craps table good video i learned about axis, i noticed the 44/22 set produced a 6 and a 1 around 14 out of 24 times 0.5833 58% so 42% of the time you were on axis, 8out of 20 shots were textbook.
As beginner, just seeing you keep the dice on the table and close together (not to mention the 24 rolls) is a sign of dice control. I too, would like to see the throw technique and where you stand.
Believerification No such thing as dice control. They will land on a number that is on axis 66.7% of the time regardless of how you throw them
His technique his 50 takes until you FINALLY get a 20+ roll.
You throw way too hard and land way too far from the wall.
Put about 4 stacks of chips on the pass line and another 4 behind.
Craig Ramsey ----> Having stacks of chips right where you land the dice and bumps against them, really changes the out come on the roll even if you are setting the dice.
TheyCallhim Lighting -----> Yes, I agree with you, but just like Craig Ramsey posted, when you have 4 people with stacks of chips on the pass line , plus each person has 4 stacks of chips for odds behind them, and the chip are right where you want to land your dice after you have set them, this often changes the axis of the two dice if either one of them bangs into the stack of chips. I set dice and I have had this happen to me.
Yes, I agree with you. This changes the whole out come of me setting the dice and then having one dice of both of them hit a stack of chips. My only option is to throw the dice in a corner on the table.
I've never been kicked off. I've been warned many times about hitting the back wall with BOTH dice. I've also been asked to move farther from the back wall and I've been asked to throw the dice farther away from the back wall to allow them to bounce higher (I used to throw into the crack of the wall and the table and it would kill the dice immediately.) Tipping the dealers DOES help.
Nice roll do it matter what number is u set it as long as it us the hard ways?
he clearly explains his fault in why the six or one shows. That right there shows that he has a complete understanding of setting the dice and controlling them. It is to mitigate the probability of a 7 showing. On mathematical average a 7 should have shown after or within 6 throws...he threw 24 times. He absolutely has control!!
Thats what I thought, just wanted to see what you thought. Thanks.
Much improvement since this video was made. The distance was a little farther than needed to be.. I've since moved close, and softened the throw. Much less explosion off the felt.
Thanks bc I always bet 6 and 8 and if I hit a point then I use that winnings for another number inside number
I like your video. You should do more dice videos
Why can't I ever be at a table when someone hits a roll like this? Sheesh...
It does not matter but you should use the same set everytime for a long time to see what the numbers are that you tend to throw. Then you can bet into this edge.
@TheCliffsbs The felt I purchased online. I will be replacing it with Billiard felt as recommended by the pros. The wood was purchased at homedepot and cut to specs. The rubber diamonds was also purchased online. Do NOT cut the rubber piece. It's heavy, just set it on top and bent the ends like my rig shows on the video. The rubber will stay in place and mimic a perfect craps table.
How about some proper lighting, are we going to shoot in the dark all night ?
where would u consider yourself shooting from back of table, stick left 1 or 2 in this video?
yes. cost about $60 to make. Saved a lot by making it myself.
don't buy cheap felt then add rubber underneath. If you are going for the real table felt, then go with the synthetic layout. It's pricey but you can cut what you need for your station and sell the other portion to others. Synthetic is bouncy and what the casinos are using these days.
Do you have a video of your throwing the dice ?
That set is called just the "hardway" set. It's not just the 4 and 2, it's hardways all around. ;)
You used the 4/2 set for each shot? Man, looks like someone could make a good roll very profitable. I want to go to the tables with someone who can make those 4s and 10s, press place bets on them and you're $100 a roll after they hit 4 times.
Do you roll at least 24 points consistently before sevening out?
+Richard III Exactly. He only uploads long rolls. Short rolls will never see the light of day.
Richard III No he does not
The casino table has a Different Bounce. Absolutely not the same. This table is Hard. You also have to take in account chips on the table and Distance.
this dude is the real deal...I like how you say on axis.lol
pocketducks890 No such thing as dice control. They will land on a number that is on axis 66.7% of the time regardless of how you throw them
I've softened my throw quite a bit since this video...
@702SharpShooter I have made significant improvements since making this video. When using the hardway set, I rely on some randomness with the ace and 6 going off axis but not at the same time.
That a piece of plywood with felt over the top of it...show me a video of you "controlling" the dice with a zero padded surface.
Thanks Bro.
No this is not Ironwig. This is teezboo.
I say, practice how you play. I'm ahead at the casinos. I've improved 35-40% since making this video. I also work the horn bets on come outs.
you need to look into how to properly grip the dice and how to properly throw the dice. You can set the dice like a champ everytime, however if your grip and throw is crap then there is no point in setting the dice.
The throw is inline with the GTC method. Have to stay anonymous.
@SLOTPLAYA ...been playing for a few years but practice a lot!
I also believe Frank can do it. However, the same can be said for a Major League pitcher. Pick any great one. Now how many people can do it? The percentage of those who try to be that good compared to the the Cy Youngs' of the world are miniscule. Frank can make stacks, but for 99.99% of the rest of the would be arms in a casino, it's not likely. If you really had that advantage, you would win well beyond any standard deviation and win big. I'm guessing money management wins more for you. GL!
My experience is that the 7 comes after a soft 10. You should take everything down after soft 10.
superstitious much? ;)
Stick 1 Right
did you make that rig yourself?
I'll use better lighting on my next video
Then I shall refer you to researching Frank Scoblete. You can find the History channel special on "breaking Vegas" where it does a 50 minutes documentary on Frank and another man making stacks! I on the other hand can tell you that when I play craps I dont win stupid amounts of money. However I am there long enough to watch the table change over 3-4 times with the random rolers. Point being with advantage playing you can out last probability. Statistics are created off of idiot gamblers.
what position are you standing at the table?
Why dark background?
by the looks of this vids angle it looks like you're stick left 1. unless you are walking all the way around the table.
Yes it's 4/2 for every shot....
were did u get the pratice rig from
Amazon has all the things you need to get started, good luck.
Go practice at a casino. Bet pass line and don't pass at same time. Occasionally bet odds behind them if you like the number. Won't cost you a bunch of money actually learning on the real deal. Be nice if I lived in Vegas.
Michael Vandeburg Dumbest strategy ever.
Not a strategy if it is only for practicing your throw at a casino to keep from losing a ton of money. What is the point to practicing at home all the time and never trying it at a casino?
What's the point of practicing at the casino when all shooters are random? Nobody has special skills that make their rolls lower the probability of rolling any number. You have a 1 in 6 chance of rolling a 7 just like everyone else
if you do this on a hard surface table you don’t impress me cause bouncy surface is the rule at the casino
4/2 4/2 til I’m ☠️🪦🤡💥🔫
I keep double pitching the dice. Please help me!! My dice is on axis majority of the time, my grip is straight and the projectile arc on both dice when launched are aligned not staggered. What's wrong with my throw. Btw the table is bouncy.
hooikidz turn one face on one dice forward or backward
hooikidz No such thing as dice control. They will land on a number that is on axis 66.7% of the time regardless of how you throw them
When you dice set , you are trying to shoot and deaden the dice against the wall. You NEVER DO THAT!!! Every roll is just standard deviation. Your rolls are REALLY BAD!!!!!!!!
There is no surefire way to win! The Casino always has the edge any winning just consider it a loan!! But this guy and many others have poven dice control.
Tank West No such thing as dice control. They will land on a number that is on axis 66.7% of the time regardless of how you throw them
One must ask the question.
Why, if any person has a system that works, would he post it on you tube?
Why would he even have the time?
Dice control is nothing new, it is just ridiculously challenging to master and takes hundreds or thousands of hours to practice.
That could be said for hundreds of tutorials on UA-cam. Just because he posts a video doesn't mean "one " would become an advantage craps player over night. BTW great Video @teezboo!
*****
thank you for your advice im down like 13 grand for the last 6 months
***** It is all bullshit, and hype. There is nothing you are going to find that will give you an edge at this game. You are not going to get this money back, but only lose more.
If you must play the game, play only the very best bets and nothing else. If you don't know what I mean by that statement, you shouldn't be playing the game.
And play small and have fun. The only thing that playing large proves is: That large players lose a lot of money and smaller players lose less money.
lol yes i just lost 2500 today sick this life we live
Nice roll - but you had a 6 or 1 come up on nearly every roll....so not very 'controlled'. When your 6 and 1 come up, by definition you're NOT on axis...Lots of 6/3's and 5/1's in this session. But, still a nice roll.
You can't link to a video that shows a series of throws that stay on axis.