Logan Stieber vs. Tony Ramos: 2013 NCAA title match (133 lbs.)
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2020
- Ohio State's Logan Stieber defeated Iowa's Tony Ramos in this 2013 NCAA wrestling championship match at 133 pounds to secure his second of four straight individual titles. Watch the full title match here.
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I wrestled Logan in high school, he was the best wrestler I’ve ever faced by a long shot. Great to see how much he’s accomplished in college. Dudes a beast.
hell yea
Just to clarify a few things, im an ohio state fan, (logan has even stayed at my house). And despite that potential bias I still believe tony got 2 backs, regardless it wouldn't have changed the final result. And for those who say he was pinned, in all divisions of folkstyle wrestling, the shoulder blades must be flat for a 2 count, they clearly were not. Any hope that helps, have a blessed day!
Grew up wrestling with Tony in Illinois, and I agree with everything you just said.
Was very close to a pin though. But yea def two backs n logan is the homie... What u think about the last second controversial no call his 1st title
Never realized it before, but he did..had a 2 count AFTER holding him there.
You dont know how the rest plsys out if Ramos is awarded the 2.
Ramos had 2 near fall and Oliver should of had 2 takedown
Tony had the near fall
2 backs for sure
But man is Logan strong. Ramos had the chin & you could see the power Stieber had not to be taken down again
Great match
That was for sure two back points 7:45
Would not matter. He still would have won
No doubt
@@nathanaeldavid6238 but he didn’t win lol
You can hear Brands yell “ you son of a bitch” as he’s running up the the mat lmao
@@nathanaeldavid6238 No, match changes dynamics when there is back points awarded, as they should have been, and no breaks for the wrestlers. Emotions, tight match
@6:28 "YOU SON OF A BITCH!" haha, we agree coach, we agree.
Thank you for uploading all of these
We greatly missed the Tournament last year
It's our pleasure! More to come.
Logan Steiber, one of 4 4x NCAA champions. I wonder who’s gonna win?
It’s good to watch them back for when your bored and just wanna watch some old wrestling.
Xenonmaster 666 yeah that’s why I watched this match. But it’s just like watching a Rocky Marciano match. Rocky Marciano is widely known as the only undefeated heavyweight champion, so you know he’s gonna win, but you watch him for entertainment or for lessons on boxing. That’s kinda how it is here
Tony had the near fall
@@michaelgorogianis8571 Yeah, I’ll admit he probably should’ve got near fall, but I don’t know if it would’ve been enough to win
@@ianshue2890 it would have changed the dynamic of the match
Stieber lost two finals, this and against Oliver. I consider Stieber an excellent wrestler but he lost this one and the other where, bizarrely, Oliver didn't get the take down. I don't even like OK. State, but I remember yelling at the screen at the ref, "what are you waiting for?" That was an easy takedown call for Oliver. He got robbed horribly, the worst call in NCAA finals ever.
To clarify, he was pinned clearly. It's a quicker call than in HS, and be is clearly flat and done at 7:45. Ramos should have been a two-time champion.
@@mariofreak9660 at 5:04 Ramos had 2 backs they didn’t call it either
@@mariofreak9660 As much as I like Ramos and his energy, he did lose this match. That pin call wasn’t really in the question and while the backs were definitely there, Stieber still would have won.
I think Ramos got 2 NF here (these were clearer imo than the ones Ramos got against Graff in the finals the following year), but you can't say for sure Ramos would have won. I still think Stieber would have had the advantage.
But the Oliver non-call was downright criminal. As someone who had no dog in that fight, it was a blown call of epic proportions.
I just honestly can’t believe out of all the talent that has come through collegiate D1 wrestling...Logan Stieber is a 4 timer...David Taylor, IMAR, Nolf, Bo Nickal, V. Joseph, Burroughs, Dierenger (to name a few) all had the caliber and dedication to be 4 timers yet they’re NOT! Like you see something like this kind of a title as the pinnacle of collegiate D1 wrestlers and you put THIS guy in that prestigious group??? It just doesn’t make sense man...personal opinion of course.
Ya he definitely stands out in the 4 timer group and not in a good way.
Y’all sleepin on the work he did in freestyle too he has 61kg wins over beka lomtadze and Benham eshanpour and at 65kg had great matches with Chamizo and Romanov, Logan was low key world class up under everyone nose
Well let’s see technically they robbed Oliver & robbed Ramos so…
@@Ur2ez4me81 Ramos would have lost in the end but JO definitely was robbed. Logan was still extremely dominant, he was putting up retherford like numbers. However, he was a tweener in terms of weight and his style just didn’t translate as well to the international level.
Is Tony Ramos’s National Championship win on UA-cam? I can’t find his win anywhere and it would be nice to see after his opening interview
Steiner and Ramos are going to be great head coaches someday
Crazy match! I can’t believe these coaches didn’t tell the interviewer to F off haha
Back points, hell, Stieber was pinned. I’ll never forget this match.
I genuinely don’t understand thinking he was pinned. Near fall points yes. Pin? Absolutely not.
@Kieran McGuire 1 second is not collegiate, one second is freestyle or greco, in no folkstyle division is 1 second a pin. And incase you want some credentials im a D1 commit as of this year. Still though I love how peaceful and calm your discussion was, god bless!
@@mikejay1385 Art. 1. Fall. A fall occurs when any part of both shoulders or part of both
scapulae of either wrestler is held in contact with the mat for *one second.* The
one-second count (one-thousand-one) shall be a silent count by the referee
and shall start only after the referee is in position to observe that a fall is
imminent. (See Table 4.11.1.)
From the NCAA wrestling rulebook.
Perhaps you should maybe read it if you're a D1 commit, no?
I was looking for this comment, Steiber got some much luck in 3 of his titles. No one may ever get as lucky as he was in NCAA wrestling ever again.
8:06 Logan was basically pinned
Not giving him the near fall gave Stieber all the momentum you could see it on his face that was 2
Not a Ramos pin but he should’ve been awarded back points!
I wanna know where Ramos/Stieber Carver Hawkeye arena is???? “Any other use of this telecast or any pictures, descriptions, or accounts of the match without the Hawkeye wrestlings consent is prohibited.” ??????????
That was back points for IOWA when the ohio state got the crapped kicked out of them in KINNICK 55-24
The interviewer should have asked Steiber how does it feel to have the refs win you two ncaa wrestling championships 😂
I love Brands' face at 6:00
Didn't realize it WAS a 2 count, but it was!!
I see now where Gilman got his tactics.
Blessings
That interviewer is horrible
Let Tom talk about beating Steiber and Jordan Oliver beating Steiber. Pitiful refs everywhere, Joe Woodell
100% 2 points, 100% NOT A PIN
Am I the only who can’t believe they actually interviewed the coaches during a freaking challenge? I’m surprised neither of them shoved that mic down dudes throat
was definitely a 2 count and would have definitely made a difference
It was a one and a half count. Needed a two. Should be no controversy with this. For those clamoring for a pin- pins in the NCAA tournament normally are not called quickly.
Refs blew it x2. First, they missed the pin. Stieber was flat on his back. Then, they missed the back points.
Ramos should’ve tried a cradle at the end.....
definitely was 2 nearfall
Damn Refs back in the day were ASS
The Brands are absolutely the best
I mean who else would you want in your sons corner? Who else would have their back like them? I mean just look at Terry’s face when he’s on the Ref about the back points
The Brands brothers are elite and some of the best out there but it seems like they feed the hot hand. Ramos was the guy, then Dan Denis came along and it seemed like the Brands’ brushed Ramos aside. Then Gilman was the guy, then Gilman left for PSU/NLWC because Spencer Lee became the guy. I cannot speak all that poorly of the Brands’ as they represent Iowa very well, they produce great talent and I don’t see any of the behind the scenes info. I can only go off of what the wrestlers speak of in interviews. There is a trend that past wrestlers feel as though the Brands’ do indeed feed the hot hand. When the Brands’, specifically Tom, are asked about this kind of stuff happening they tend to avoid the topic.
Stieber was incredible. 3x NCAA champion. Just like Jordan Oliver won 3 national titles.
stieber won 4
@@landobaggins4023 I know he got his arm raised 4 times. But I’m saying that both he and Jordan Oliver won 3 national titles. LOL
@@andizzyJD12 Jordan Oliver won 2
Robbed of 2 back points.