Has Sunbreak Gone Too Far?

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    With Title Update 4 out for Monster Hunter Rise: Sunbreak we get to hunt Velkhana, and Risen Crimson Glow Valstrax! That second one is the one I'll be focusing on today as I try to answer the question: Is Risen Crimson Glow Valstrax too aggressive?
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  • @JaceOKami
    @JaceOKami Рік тому +144

    Something similar can also be said about the new Lucent Narga quest, Hazy Shadow or something. If you're used to the regular one from TU1 and do this quest, he'll throw you for a loop, with extra follow ups he didn't have before. There's no visual indicator of it being anything special, which is why it'll get you for sure on your first run.

    • @dragontechgaming6677
      @dragontechgaming6677 Рік тому +5

      just keep a eye out on it's glowing eyes wen it's pissed off and problem solved.
      Lucent Narga is still easy but it is more fun now then before and keeps things interesting.

    • @calebfoley5872
      @calebfoley5872 Рік тому

      I had no idea there was a new lucent quest with different ai. Made me wanna turn the game back on, thanks!

  • @quino711
    @quino711 Рік тому +489

    We need to go even further. Been carting against Valstrax and having a lot of fun, just like the good old days haha Monsters in older games used to be like this, monsters having the upper hand at all times against the player is waaaay more fun tbh. I love Rise/Sunbreak, but MH needs to be more like this Valstrax fight.

    • @wilmertapia6839
      @wilmertapia6839 Рік тому +62

      As someone that beat 4U WORLD and xx I can say that I don't know what mh are referring bc this too much in my opinion the pace of the game is out place it feels more like frontier no saying it's bad it just it became too fast that even the counter became useless from a cb player the moment I do discharge the monster just hit me twice

    • @sam2.061
      @sam2.061 Рік тому +15

      I've played many of the older games and I actually agree with you. I think this entire game is really easy. Risen valstrax was a refreshing challenge and is not that hard in the long run

    • @mhswoocer
      @mhswoocer  Рік тому +33

      absolutely agree, I haven't felt this challenged in a while

    • @BBBerti
      @BBBerti Рік тому +2

      @@wilmertapia6839 no

    • @evol_x_lillygaming4740
      @evol_x_lillygaming4740 Рік тому +1

      @@wilmertapia6839 Me who spams SAED constantly: weak

  • @michaelbernardi1453
    @michaelbernardi1453 Рік тому +173

    Risen valstrax puts the fear of God into me - we need more of this

  • @meudeth5748
    @meudeth5748 Рік тому +7

    People complain that monster hunter rise isn't hard enough then the release a hard monster and complain it's too hard 😭

  • @valfodryonsirius7698
    @valfodryonsirius7698 Рік тому +13

    The first time I fought risen Valstrax, I'll be honest I did it with followers and a gathering cat. However, I think I remember only dying once. Risen Val to me is a more of a dance than a fight I have ever experienced, and I love it. I use a special IG set that capitalizes on dodging through a lot of attacks to prevent any down time in my weapon with bladescale hone and get buffs with adrenaline rush and status trigger, I always hated monsters having annoying end lag that leaves them standing when they could be moving and Valstrax has given me the perfect monster who can match up and fare with my assault as much as he swats away at me. Killing him became so satisfying with all his moves being an either dodge or die to make the fight a brawl with zenny on the line. I'm gonna fight him again after this cause he's so much fun

  • @hennyzhi2261
    @hennyzhi2261 Рік тому +39

    I haven't fought it yet, but it seems like a logical conclusion to the late-stage title updates for these type of games. A good amount of players were getting angry over the black dragons that returned in Iceborne's final updates... and now you can find speedruns of both in under 5 minutes. I'm thinking it's just going to be one of those cases where taking things slowly and labing the moveset down is going to be mandatory to complete it (e.g. what type of behavior does it do when it goes from this combo string, how many attacks does it do in the combo string normally or enraged or close to death etc.). I really struggled with normal Valstrax in XX and trying to lance him for the first time in Rise was even more challenging, but the tells are still there. If a large part of that initial version was his wing orientation (folded in or out) determining allot of what moves would come out it makes me wonder if some other more subtle tells exist for Risen (feet and head position have been used before for attack signs). And I'm somewhat glad that we finally get a few returning Elders this time around to go with him instead of just trying to make the og elder trio more difficult, or potentially annoying (I'm not sure I haven't gotten back to this game since clearing out the title update 1 stuff).

  • @Suirioujin
    @Suirioujin Рік тому +84

    Most agressive monster I've fought in Monster Hunter, and it's really refreshing

    • @MrCharly780
      @MrCharly780 Рік тому +5

      You haven't fought extreme behemoth then

    • @Suirioujin
      @Suirioujin Рік тому +15

      Don't remember, Behemoth wasn't a fight I really like honestly, it's juste "hit until big rock falls twice, and you win"
      Maybe I should fight it again ?

    • @alderwield9636
      @alderwield9636 Рік тому +12

      @@Suirioujin trashemoth aint worth your time

    • @MrCharly780
      @MrCharly780 Рік тому +1

      @@Suirioujin fight the extreme version with HR gear like God intended, nothing comes close to it.

    • @infinitezion2029
      @infinitezion2029 Рік тому +17

      @@MrCharly780 extreme Behemoth, A Leshen, and Safi are way less like proper hunts with all the mmo pieces they have tacked on. A guaranteed one shot no matter how well you play if your rng is bad is insane levels of mid for a non mmo. RCGVal challenge and Extremoth challenge ain't the same.

  • @grapplesauce9939
    @grapplesauce9939 Рік тому +6

    I even though Risen Valstrax and Crimson Glow Strax aren’t my favorite fights, I’ve come to understand them a bit.
    I think of him as a Monster in Rise that’s finally equally aggressive as the player character can be. And when something like that happens, the game plan for fighting him changes entirely. I feel like players have to take a less aggressive, to even *defensive* approach when fighting Risen Strax. Since his fight is in one of the least hunting helper abundant areas (most you get is a paratoad and some stinkminks, a marionette spider too), and his general “I don’t care” fighting style, you’ll get into a lot of situations where he just has no chill, and hoping you flinch him without some knowledge and Team Darkside level teamwork, you need to chill out and back off of him. A tough fight for sure, but you won’t be killing him in 4 minutes unless you’ve evolved to another level of play.

  • @superstickpro8629
    @superstickpro8629 Рік тому +7

    Risen Valstrax definitely carried this update for me. As a DB player it was pretty easy for me to close in on him but just as dangerous to even be next to him. Stamina management was a problem too. And the rush I felt when he did his meteor shower attack was insane. Can’t say the same for Velkhana though as that fight felt so insanely easy.

  • @justsomeguywithlasereyes9920
    @justsomeguywithlasereyes9920 Рік тому +9

    4:53 Val: Why are you running?! WHY... ARE YOU RUNNING?!
    But honestly very true and I love Val even more because of this, also *AGGRESSION* might be a key word in the conversation of why Old Hunters say new world is too easy.

  • @rDuskHuntress
    @rDuskHuntress Рік тому +5

    As a dual blades and glaive player, the entirety of risebreak was a breeze, Risen valstrax is the first one that made me use my brain in a fight, and I'm loving it, we need more of this.

    • @Pakinov
      @Pakinov Рік тому +4

      Problem is that what is easy with DB or Glaive, can be a pain in the ass with other weapons xD I was also having a breeze with DB, got bored and swap to GS and oh my did I suffer to finish hunts in under 20 min

    • @brandonzarate703
      @brandonzarate703 10 місяців тому

      Would u say monster hunter rise sunbreak is worth it??

  • @wingnutmcmoomoo494
    @wingnutmcmoomoo494 Рік тому +2

    I'm a hunting horn player (i've only used hunting horn in rise) I found him to be a really fun fight overall. I never felt like I was stuck waiting but also I'm an insanely aggressive player and have been since the first game. I had a blast with risen valstrax, it felt like we were both going at 100% the whole fight slaming into eachother over and over taking turns falling over. Its a rewarding fight with windows that reward aggressive play, I'm more excited about the "super hard" endgame of sunbreak than I have been for i think any monster hunter to date (in most of the games i start to find it more tedious than fun)

  • @oryon6502
    @oryon6502 Рік тому +8

    I remember my first Monster Hunter game, Freedom Unite, the game was so tough that I literally filled a book with notes about the sets of equipment + items I used to defeat each monsters, just to help me. But I still think MHFU is my favorite game

    • @wulli_
      @wulli_ Рік тому +4

      Same, i have been playing mhfu again on my psp and it is still amazing, truly mh at it's peak. It saddens me that we will probably never see a mh game like it again.

    • @AcediaIX
      @AcediaIX Рік тому

      @@wulli_ old and clunky?

    • @recu1
      @recu1 Рік тому

      @@wulli_ the fifty billion bullfangos

    • @Apoollo_11
      @Apoollo_11 Рік тому +1

      ​@@mansart26 The material requirements are so accurate,Need to gather different specific mats instead of Just mats of one monster

  • @gajspalt
    @gajspalt Рік тому +2

    Definitely one of my favorite monsters so far! Love Valstrax, now so even more!
    Can't say the same about the slogfest that is Velkhana though.

  • @CrayonConoisseur
    @CrayonConoisseur Рік тому +1

    This was fight was so exciting and kept me on my toes. After several hunts, my boyfriend and I finally completed the quest. Reminds me of when we defeated HR pink Rathian in 4U with only a few minutes to spare.

  • @ZeklorWGD
    @ZeklorWGD Рік тому +20

    I think it's a great fight. I had a blast with my friends hunting it and screaming "RUN!" as soon as I saw him take off for a bombing run.

  • @aresmikhail7126
    @aresmikhail7126 Рік тому +1

    Worth the challenge, and it's been a while to see this hecc of a hunt.😄

  • @Vlaffffy
    @Vlaffffy Рік тому +2

    I can't wait for the final Title Update where will finally get afflicted arc tempered apex risen Crimson Glow Valstrax.

  • @97dusk
    @97dusk Рік тому +1

    I've fought Valstrax so many times between MHGU, Rise, and base Sunbreak that I was able to adapt pretty quickly to Risen Valstrax's fight. I took it down on my first attempt with only one cart taken. I main IG, so I have an edge in that I can actively attack the wings while others won't have as easy of a time doing, and it also keeps me almost as mobile as the monster. I can dodge and dip out of any particular situation a lot faster than other weapons, and I haven't had much problems countering it with Advancing Roundslash (which is probably the trickiest counter in the game because of the startup lag imo), either.
    Base Rise's Crimson Glow Valstrax was basically MHGU's G Rank Valstrax with a few bells and whistles, base Sunbreak's Crimson Glow Valstrax throws new moves into the mix, and Risen Valstrax feels so much fresher than ever before!

  • @xander0901
    @xander0901 Рік тому +3

    “Is Sunbreak too aggressive?”
    This is hilarious after people have been making fun of Rise/Sunbreak being too easy since launch.

  • @rosengre
    @rosengre Рік тому

    Smoothest transition to a subscribe segment I’ve ever seen, MY GOSH!

    • @mhswoocer
      @mhswoocer  Рік тому

      Thank you! I was VERY proud of this one lol

  • @hexmaniacviolet4678
    @hexmaniacviolet4678 Рік тому +3

    I have yet to do all the new 7* Quests but Risen Valstrax is a very chaotic fight. I do have some issues with it actually tracking you with his wing uppercut move, making it a little difficult to dodge him if you aren't up close to his face, which that itself makes for a dangerous answer when his other moves are also dangerous up close. But other than that I don't have too much of an issue with the fight. The Ambush feels like you have to GTFO and I flee to an area he can't reach just so I don't get hit by it

  • @hisdudeness1835
    @hisdudeness1835 Рік тому +4

    It's funny because with lance I didn't really struggle with him. I just blocked what he did and learned which moves I can counter better than others. I was kinda amazed how little tick damage his combos did through my shiels. Gunlance the same. Wide shelling and just shell at him and block his attacks. Sticking constantly under him limits so many of his options and everything that can get you there is easily blocked. But once you have to actually dodge his attacks and then position right for counters I can totally see how this is insane

    • @AcediaIX
      @AcediaIX Рік тому

      *empowered guard*

    • @ah-ys8gs
      @ah-ys8gs Рік тому

      "little tick damage" ..yea sure..when ure hiding behind ur guard 5 n guard up 3 it is easy lmfao

    • @hisdudeness1835
      @hisdudeness1835 Рік тому +1

      @@ah-ys8gs that's what these skills are for?

    • @AcediaIX
      @AcediaIX Рік тому

      @@ah-ys8gs insta block exists......

  • @michaelsnyman2800
    @michaelsnyman2800 Рік тому +16

    I love the slow, methodical positioning based combat of old, so when they add a monster that has barely any endlag, ridiculous tracking and gigantic sweeping hitboxes, I can’t even begin to imagine any flow to the fight. Fought him 4 times and the only time I could get any damage off was when I used items or endemic life to CC him, there are barely any damage opportunities otherwise. Even the instant counters the silkbinds give are too slow. Idk I love old MH for the calm and predictable nature, the classic MH “Dance”so I can’t get behind this. I love my “ okay he’s doing this attack so I should stand here and begin my combo at this time to get the damage off” it’s super satisfying to me. There’s none of that with this guy. I’m happy for all you guys who love the thrill and adrenaline rush but this is too much for me lol

    • @Way2MuchFlava
      @Way2MuchFlava Рік тому +2

      Which previous titles did you play? I am just curious because MHGU was my favorite and there were quite a few frenetic and difficult fights in that game.

    • @michaelsnyman2800
      @michaelsnyman2800 Рік тому +1

      @@Way2MuchFlava Started with world but gave GU and 3U a go and I definitely preferred them. I think GU is genuinely perfect for me, it’s got the best roster, what I consider to be the best speed of a MH game, the arts and styles are awesome and the hunters pub is such a damn vibe

    • @boltreaverastalos8310
      @boltreaverastalos8310 Рік тому

      I agree Sunbreak combat definitely not for me.

    • @holykonchu7250
      @holykonchu7250 Рік тому

      Helpful tips from a long time LS user, the sacred sheath counter has a lot of invincible frames, letting you get through a shit ton of bullshit you shouldn't be able to, don't know the exact frames but you can also do some extra shenanigans with the dodge counter to dodge the first hit, into sacred sheath then into tempered spirit, which should let you get into yellow immediately. Special sheath moves you out of the way to dodge the attack, sacred gives you a fuck ton of I frames, hell if you sacred sheath khezus body electric attack you can STAY IN THE ELECTRIC ATTACK AND JUST KEEP WAILING ON THAT GUY

    • @disu317
      @disu317 11 місяців тому

      @MaximilianReyCartwrightsunbreak nerfed the shit out of Ls and only got slightly better in tu 5 with a little buff

  • @wetnoodlex
    @wetnoodlex Рік тому +3

    Reminds me of the Furious Rajang fights prior to Rise. In IB, he had almost zero endlag on his attacks.

  • @shnsnto
    @shnsnto Рік тому +3

    Risen Valstrax gave me the adrenaline I had soloing extremoth for a while. its a fun fight. i actually love it.

  • @gemmiethegemini6808
    @gemmiethegemini6808 Рік тому +3

    This aint that bad, says i a frontier player. The monsters are faster sure but are less agressive and nigh-unkillable then they could be
    Oh and dont forget, he is bloody mr160

  • @Mysticshosh42
    @Mysticshosh42 Рік тому +2

    Risen valstrax forced me off switch axe to insect glaive and I love when monsters are so difficult they force me to change up my play style completely

  • @kobold_sushi_executive_chef
    @kobold_sushi_executive_chef Рік тому +3

    I want to be afraid on a hunt. There isn't enough of that in Sunbreak.

  • @tintedpalette653
    @tintedpalette653 Рік тому +20

    I can understand saying the damage is a tad overtuned, but I warmly welcome the aggressive attack patterns displayed with this hunt. I love it when I feel like I’m being jerked around back and forth from a monster, that I am forced to follow their momentum. It makes for an exhilarating hunt. The most memorable quests for me are the ones where I’m squealing like a schoolgirl trying to avoid carting and that sense of accomplishment of improving during the hunt and ultimately winning. Hunters in Rise/Sunbreak can often feel like demigods with their insane movement and capabilities, so it only makes sense that the monsters are also getting their own tricks. I can’t help but think that those calling this too far aren’t receptive to the idea that they need to approach a hunt with a different attitude, or to utilize tools in the game they normally ignore. Grab some spiribirds if you need to, no one will judge. Just do what makes for the most enjoyable experience, whatever that may be for you.

  • @TheTyrantAussie
    @TheTyrantAussie 11 місяців тому +1

    Here’s my general idea the base of Mh dlc should be an equal fight but post game monsters, endgame monsters should be incredibly punishing like you said this is a perfect thing as the monster is in control exactly what endgame Mh should be

  • @Foerarn1234
    @Foerarn1234 Рік тому

    Haven't had this much fun with a monster since i discovered some difficulty increased monster mods on MH: World, it's been a blast getting my ass beat until you start recognizing the patterns well enough to kick back against the monster and eventually win!

  • @6packproductions710
    @6packproductions710 Рік тому +2

    I have to catch up on sunbreak after a long time away, but I liked it the first time zinogre punished my wirefall as it does that triple stomp. The game was criticized by some as being too easy…well capcom listened! Love it

  • @RoninAuron
    @RoninAuron Рік тому +1

    His new ultimate is my favorite monster attack in the game.
    The scream of his wings when he charges to hit you with the stab after the spin is chef's kiss.
    I love my autistic jetpack dragon

  • @KyloB
    @KyloB Рік тому +4

    Man I dunno, it felt awesome to me personally, finally something that actually made me triple cart for the first time since iceborne fatalis in release.
    Kinda find it funny though all the people saying sunbreak and rise are way too easy and now suddenly they change their tone the moment they cant meta-fuck a monster to death in 5 minutes on their first try.
    Its nice to finally have a monster i need to actually respect. It doesnt give you any room to breathe. You get the feeling that you're actually walking into a bossfight, instead of the monster walking into a bossfight (against you)

    • @mhswoocer
      @mhswoocer  Рік тому +2

      Couldn't agree more. I've never struggled with a monster this much in rise/sunbreak, and I'd love to see more like it

    • @Way2MuchFlava
      @Way2MuchFlava Рік тому +1

      My concern is that these kind of fights seem so rare in current gen Monster Hunter. Iceborne had Alatreon, Arch-tempered elders, and Fatalis, and once you beat Fatalis you kind just became OP because of the equipment. Sunbreak has a few risen monsters. GU had 18 EX fights, some of the hyper monsters were really hard (looking at you metal raths), and there were the black dragons as well. It seems to me that the newest monster hunters give the player way more power without giving hardly any challenges that actually merit that kind of power.

  • @a.n.g.aso2862
    @a.n.g.aso2862 Рік тому +1

    This is basically going back to their basics and is better than just caressing through every quest without any planning or grind!! 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @Ten_Thousand_Locusts
    @Ten_Thousand_Locusts Рік тому +2

    Risen Crimson Glow Valstrax is genuinely a badly designed fight. There's nothing wrong with hyper aggressive monsters, there's nothing wrong with monsters that do ridiculous damage, there is something wrong with a monster that does both. Every attack WILL two shot you and some will straight up one shot you. That's fine, but when the monster just doesn't fucking let up EVER it becomes frustrating. This isn't a fun fight, there's nothing fun about spending the entire fight healing because if you don't heal after every attack that hits you you'll just die when the next attack hits. And you WILL get hit with its ridiculous sweeping attack and AOE that has hitboxes that span the entire map. It isn't a fun fight. Furious Rajang is hyper aggressive and keeps you on your toes, but in turn it doesn't do all that much damage and it has a very low health pool. Fatalis does a shit ton of damage but isn't overly aggressive. RCGV has everything, a ridiculously aggressive moveset, attacks that do way too much damage AND an inflated health pool. Nothing about the fight is fun, I didn't even feel good the first time I killed it, I was just angry because of how ridiculous of a fight it was. If this is the future of Monster Hunter it can be without me.

  • @alexisjunerepil5040
    @alexisjunerepil5040 Рік тому +19

    I think this is just how a monster on that level should be, the challenge is very good. I think this is the start of the foreshadowing on how much power level and difficulty the future title update monsters will have, maybe Fatalis will return, but this time a Risen one, or any Risen black dragons

  • @Jbrowni3
    @Jbrowni3 Рік тому

    If a monster can be beaten within 50 minutes by playing it safe and attacking when you have the opportunity, then no, it’s not too far.
    As a beginner, one of the key obstacles you must overcome balancing your aggression with knowing when to fall back, and when to quaff a potion.
    Sometimes this means taking attacks of opportunity (when a monster is down or flinches) and turning them into Heals or WireBuffs of opportunity.
    Sticking to the general guideline of not letting your health really fall below 60% without taking the time out to heal is also one of the best strategies to overcome a tough hunt (unless you’re trying to proc a skill)
    You can use your first cart to play more haphazardly, but just remember, the hunt is a Marathon, not a short race. If you pace yourself, most hunts can be completed. I would say any- but I’ve not played every quest in the MH series.

  • @cathycatsville67
    @cathycatsville67 Рік тому +4

    I'm playing a hunting horn total defense build i need 25-30 minutes but i can beat Risen Valstrax 😅 it's definitely my favorite risen elder dragon his moveset is amazing and while he is a great challenge he is still a fair challenge if you don't go for damage 😅 use a defense build if you have problems it might take longer but it's better to beat it in 30 minutes than cart 5 times in a row 😁

  • @thewomboldt7899
    @thewomboldt7899 Рік тому

    My first mh game introduced Valstrax this monster single handedly nearly made my last mh game as well. Learned get a big shield and high guard and and become that unmovable object against that unstoppable force.

  • @sidneyemunoz
    @sidneyemunoz Рік тому +1

    Risen Shagaru followed up on this new trend. I can't even begin to imagine how crazy will Primordial Malzeno be 😢😢😢

    • @darkchaozbringer785
      @darkchaozbringer785 Рік тому

      Greetings from the future. I regret to inform you that Prime Malz is indeed fucked.

    • @Ayberrr
      @Ayberrr 8 місяців тому

      Y'all are probably the same people to say sunbreak is too easy then bitch and complain when they actually add a hard monster

  • @grilledeel6042
    @grilledeel6042 Рік тому +1

    I would equate this hunt to a secret boss in Kingdom Hearts. Usually in KH you need to be really fast and aggressive with each boss, and it's relatively easy to find openings to heal. When I first fought against Sephiroth in KH1 and KH2, that all changed. It was, like the video said, a bit of fresh air to get a challenge. It didn't really seem too unfair once you figure out a pattern to a pretty aggressive boss.

  • @Sanctuary666
    @Sanctuary666 Рік тому +12

    He's challenging but far from a serious difficulty spike compared to the rest. Fatalis from iceborne...now that's a difficult fight

    • @NazcaGaming
      @NazcaGaming Рік тому

      Dude fatalis is fcking ez hagagag

    • @yes3802
      @yes3802 Рік тому +3

      @@NazcaGaming No tf he ain't

    • @extremkaijuu9314
      @extremkaijuu9314 Рік тому +2

      A lot of really good players think that risen valstrax is harder than iceborne fatalis .

  • @darkmodeenjoyer3367
    @darkmodeenjoyer3367 Рік тому +1

    We have never gone too far until we reached the fronteir.

  • @Ippiki9
    @Ippiki9 Рік тому +3

    You asked for Frontier, you get Frontier

    • @shojyn7643
      @shojyn7643 Рік тому +1

      More like HR 6 in frontier :v

  • @christopherzirkel1792
    @christopherzirkel1792 Рік тому

    Idk if they had gone way too far when it comes to monsters and updates. But in the monster’s’ defense, they did allow a breather or two after certain attacks.

  • @kalidwapur
    @kalidwapur Рік тому +2

    This sounds similar to the dance of early psp games but uptempo. There is a rythm but in the early games both you and the monster were slower and had less moves. It was a slow valse now it's a fast tango

  • @asahi366
    @asahi366 Рік тому +1

    i've reached mr999 and have been actively using all 14 weapons, and imo risen val is kinda ridiculous mainly because of the charge up move being so fucking random despite the fact that the topple you can get from preventing him charging up is the key of the hunt.

    • @asahi366
      @asahi366 Рік тому

      does this randomness makes hunt impossible to success? absolutely not. But it does make players feel that they're on the mercy of the game's fucking rng and the overall experience frustrating and tedious

  • @peterduprey7286
    @peterduprey7286 Рік тому

    A variant of a variant of my favorite monster, with the best fight in the best game. I couldn’t be happier.

  • @Rytom
    @Rytom Рік тому

    No. Especially not when it's Valstrax. It's the first time I've been "scared" of a move. That moment when he charges his wing for a stabing attack (which I believe is unblockable), while the engine goes "SWHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII" is fucking scary. I love that fight.
    And the missile shower before the dive ? Lovely.

  • @deffarhan6748
    @deffarhan6748 Рік тому +1

    now this is a true risen elder because you fear it and its fun hunting something so scary.

  • @Nebby_smells
    @Nebby_smells Рік тому

    I'd see this as a good thing because it actually makes the monsters feel like monsters, while also proving to be a challenge. Sure it's not fun just dodging all the time but we can also find ways to force monsters to stop their combos via flash bombs, staggers, traps, etc.

  • @juanfranciscoronanduano2441

    Yeah, the "follow up" AI system was quite a shock for me when I first faced Velkhana in World. I guess they found a more suitable and balancing use by recicling the same concept with the later monsters for sunbreak

  • @tenkovito
    @tenkovito Рік тому

    regular valstrax ifrom base rise is also KINDA like risen too, the charge into dive into explosion is done by crimson glow too and it also has the the combo claw slam + wing slam TWO TIMES into explosion

    • @judehaylesa
      @judehaylesa Рік тому

      almost like they're the same monster or something

  • @ArcsOfficial
    @ArcsOfficial Рік тому +2

    i want even MORE aggressive monsters. most things are too easy when you get perfect gear

  • @TheTrevorBrady
    @TheTrevorBrady 8 місяців тому

    I enjoyed the Risen Shagaru Magala fight because of how aggressive it felt. I felt I was dancing with it, with my gunlance.

  • @wafflinxes5224
    @wafflinxes5224 Рік тому +2

    The problem with MR vasltrax is still there, you cannot stop the first charge vasltrax does, ignoring it being stupidly fast, the damage threshold is too high

    • @Pizzaisbetter72
      @Pizzaisbetter72 Рік тому

      but isnt the first one impossible to stop because its a power up and not a topple opportunity?

    • @eawavy2316
      @eawavy2316 Рік тому +1

      If you use great sword u can 😂😂

  • @themeow-sician1664
    @themeow-sician1664 Рік тому +1

    Im glad that we get fights like that we need more fights like fatalis from iceborn

  • @cheeszy4696
    @cheeszy4696 Рік тому +1

    The Risen Valstrax makes me sweat my palm

  • @KowalskyOFC
    @KowalskyOFC Рік тому

    Hojo and the entire guild: ibushi and narwa are the strongest monsters!
    All the other elder dragons: im a joke for you?

  • @soulstech414
    @soulstech414 Рік тому

    How do you have available combos on the screen during a fight?

  • @mint5438
    @mint5438 Рік тому

    I can learn to live with the challenge. What I can't live with is the grind it takes to reach them. I've yet to reach scorned Magnamalo yet because I just don't feel doing it. I've been a vet of monster hunter for a long long long time, and I absolutely wanna fight the new monsters. I just don't have the time or patience to grind out that much.

  • @eye1dry138
    @eye1dry138 Рік тому

    When I finally battled the valstrax I finally felt like it was truly a monster hunter game

  • @JanusHoW
    @JanusHoW Рік тому

    Keep in mind that this won't even be the hardest version. In TU5, we'll likely get Anomaly Investigation versions of this guy. And people are commenting on how crazy the other Risen elders are in their 8* Anomaly Quest incarnations...one player even called Anomaly Quest Risen Chameleos "EX Risen Chameleos" as a callback to the EX Deviants from GU and their brutally difficult fights.

  • @kbrxion5620
    @kbrxion5620 Рік тому +4

    I'm loving the powerlevel risen valstrax is at. I play insect glaive so the first few time fighting it were a pain as stamina management can be a big issue. But the more that I fight it, the more that I really rolling into the monster protects you from alot of attacks. I feel like the difficulty of this monster is the highest its ever been for sunbreak but can be made way easier or harder depending on the weapon you choose. IG doesn't have inherent counters so I have to spend a lot of time dodging and weaving through attacks just so I can optimize time. compared to weapons like LS and DB that have counters and can get close really easily.

  • @theworstateverythingB
    @theworstateverythingB Рік тому

    I honestly need help . 14 hour shifts 3 days at most on a lucky day off . Rank 50 . MHR been playing for weeks . Went into sun break and I just decided to take a nap out the window . Any help with charge blade builds I can pour these off days into so I can enjoy rather than deploy my switch out the window

  • @alondite215
    @alondite215 Рік тому +2

    Risen Valstrax is the first monster since like...maybe 3U where it feels like the player is completely outmatched by the monster, and given that you're a little human fighting typically giant monsters, that makes sense for MH. It feels desperate, like any mistake could be your last, and that's not something I've gotten from MH for a long time. It's a sweaty, nerve-wracking hunt in the best way.

  • @andhikaaryasena5234
    @andhikaaryasena5234 Рік тому

    I really love this fight, its like different from before, many punishing move, after i get used to risen valstrax then comeback to grind anomaly research, hoo boy the difference when fighting anomaly f rajang is much easier now

  • @jmneo4635
    @jmneo4635 Рік тому

    As a bow user taking potshots in between dodging is an experience why I love the bow but it kinda pissed that "Dragon piercer" has become so dangerous to use it feels like being left out from other weapons.
    Unless I have enough time to get used to the monsters then it's less painful and I can get pretty good "Dragon piercers" that stagger a charging monster.

  • @ndnofmana521
    @ndnofmana521 Рік тому +1

    Mh has been known for "wall monsters". Imo it needs to continue. Good video

  • @ramontavaresdacruz2256
    @ramontavaresdacruz2256 Рік тому +1

    Lance is great in this fight, aggression is always welcome when holding a lance

  • @gabrielcrepeault497
    @gabrielcrepeault497 Рік тому

    I didn't have problems with him last time I played. Did they change him recently?

  • @Ashaweshk
    @Ashaweshk Рік тому

    Then there's me... With a impenetrable shield... "you wot?" xD

  • @snowdrifter6187
    @snowdrifter6187 Рік тому

    Can't complain. Really enjoyed the chaotic feel from world and playing rise, everything felt...clunky? So vel being this giant robo-chicken of torture and doom is perfect. Let's keep it coming!

    • @18ps3anos
      @18ps3anos Рік тому +1

      What are you talking about.

  • @febus3
    @febus3 Рік тому

    Haven't played sunbreak yet. But for me it was the legendary Velkhana from world. Took me almost 5 hours to finally take it down.

  • @epsilon1372
    @epsilon1372 Рік тому +9

    Here’s hoping they make the rest of the risen monsters on a similar level of challenge and engagement

    • @kisukami6719
      @kisukami6719 Рік тому +1

      Technically they have in the anomaly quest. The risen monsters have new follow-ups

    • @Melkac
      @Melkac Рік тому +2

      I really hope not. I’m not very good at the game and I don’t like to be locked out of content just because they felt like making a ridiculously strong monster that only pros can kill.

    • @epsilon1372
      @epsilon1372 Рік тому +2

      @@Melkac you can always bring followers and plus, even risen valstrax isn’t so hard that only pros can kill him. Besides, worst case scenario, you’ll only be unable to get a couple armor sets. You’re not missing out on any major systems. It’s endgame content

    • @epsilon1372
      @epsilon1372 Рік тому

      @@kisukami6719 I heard about that and I hope those quests offer a good challenge

    • @dippking4638
      @dippking4638 Рік тому +2

      @@Melkac you have a reason to become better at the game then.

  • @BanisherDarkness
    @BanisherDarkness Рік тому +1

    The problem I have is that I either have to run healer builds to keep everyone else alive, or do everything alone so that I can play the way I want too. This ended up sucking all the fun out of Iceborne with the last two title updates for me, as I had to do the same there. This difficulty over fun mentality they get with these monsters has been making me dread title updates.

  • @PHDpulls
    @PHDpulls Рік тому

    Valstrax has been a cake walk I think I've died to him like 2 different times and it's when I first played him and in the event quest against him

  • @rainqueens1731
    @rainqueens1731 Рік тому

    Oh this Valstrax fight really reminds me of the original g rank MHGU fight, its intense and fast fight

  • @amsaa91
    @amsaa91 Рік тому

    I was like finally a challenging monster. It’s a fun fight

  • @franzukato2822
    @franzukato2822 Рік тому

    My discord friend took me to Risen Valstrax along with other discord members and man even though I was still MR 50 that time using HBG Magnamalo Sticky Slicing build it was fun, what’s weird for me though was they kept getting the aggro even though I’m pelting valstrax with slicing Stickies and even pierce xD

  • @Vampshroom420
    @Vampshroom420 11 місяців тому

    I played through the game with my friend and the main thing we were bitching about the entire time is how the monsters seem to have unlimited stamina,barely get slowed down as they get the shit beat out of them,and generally just has no cooldowns between most attacks. we would watch a monster with barely any parts left on it,looking borderline like a zombie,just fucking rampaging at full energy like we havnt been obliterating its skull the past 40 minutes. I love Rise,but man....i really hope the next MH installment slows it down a bit again....these monsters never get tired at all. I havnt hunted valstrax but i can only imagine how annoying he is

    • @anthonygamer
      @anthonygamer 11 місяців тому

      If it takes you 40 minutes to kill something, you are playing the game wrong.

  • @ValkyrianWyverian
    @ValkyrianWyverian Рік тому

    This is my opinion. But I haven't really been vibing with the master rank experience so far. I noticed in Iceborne it felt like I was retreating more than I was actually attacking.
    I've experienced G-Rank difficulty in games prior, but I don't remember feeling as powerless as I did when I played the MHW expansion. I have yet to play Sunbreak, but it seems like it'll follow the same pattern.
    So nowadays it seems like it might just be best for me to play the base game experience, and just leave it at that. But I'm gonna try Sunbreak and see how it goes.

  • @Simbaninogaming
    @Simbaninogaming Рік тому

    I completely agree with the opinion that the game is becoming more aggressive, however I don’t feel it much since I main dual blades in this game and that allows me to play reactive since I have at least 2 counters and 1 of them pretty frame 1. I can see how dealing with him can be rough for the average player or other weapons

  • @user-pn4px5lr8w
    @user-pn4px5lr8w Рік тому

    The hazard treatment Lucent has been given is something I'd like wholesale for all the monsters in the anomaly system. Would give them a nice shakeup beyond just bigger numbers, since them simply being stronger, and spongier isn't enough imo.

    • @biggreen6437
      @biggreen6437 Рік тому

      if you fight the risen elders in the A8 anomaly quests (not anomaly investigations), they do get similar changes to hazard lucent.

    • @JanusHoW
      @JanusHoW Рік тому

      I'd love to see every Afflicted monster get the EX Deviant treatment - clearing a level 300 Anomaly Investigation with them as the primary target would unlock a quest featuring super-hard version of them. I'd LOVE to fight a super-crazy Afflicted Great Izuchi with elder-dragon level power. To make it worth the trouble, it could give a ton of Afflicted parts of all ranks to make maxing out your weapons with Qurious Crafting easier.

  • @amv_meta
    @amv_meta Рік тому +5

    this is the ''problem'' of end game monsters
    they have to be harder than ever before or they wont fit into the end game cycle
    like alatreon in mh3u wasnt that hard compared to iceborn where he was a really hard monster
    they have to make them really really hard so they can fit into the final bosses of the expension ! and even tho it doesn't look fair, it has to be this way or youll just ez everything

    • @magnabueno5360
      @magnabueno5360 Рік тому

      Mhp3rd alatreon was meh in terms of difficulty (still the most enjoyable one in my experience).

  • @TheTyrantAussie
    @TheTyrantAussie Рік тому +1

    I don’t care if he’s to aggressive it was so fun playing him and I cannot wait for risen shaguru

  • @someboiwhogivesadamn
    @someboiwhogivesadamn Рік тому

    Whether it's wings of sterling silver or a hand of unalloyed gold... scarlet reigns supreme

  • @user-on6wc8oj9u
    @user-on6wc8oj9u Рік тому +2

    I think Risen CG Valstrax is honestly Capcom's response to those players who complain that Monster Hunter's difficulty is too easy lol

  • @Godslayer96
    @Godslayer96 Рік тому

    As someone who really dislikes Crimson Glow Valstrax, but couldn't really put into words why at the beginning, it finally dawned on me a while back: his attacks are far too long lasting. His hurtboxes either persist for a really long time, they linger for a while, have multiple delayed damaging components, or are just very difficult to dodge in general.
    His wingstabs into the ground now produce delayed dragon explosions, his dragon mortar produces patterns which are very difficult do dodge, almost all attacks have absolutely INSANE tracking. He also has unforseeable combos but that's not unique to him.
    It just feels so much less clean than the fight in GU did. An enterprising Hunter could feasably dodge through attacks without needing to get out of the way. Not so in Rise/Sunbreak.

  • @spence6195
    @spence6195 Рік тому

    I honestly loved playing against Risen Valstrax, I tried beating it with each weapon but I was most successful with the Gunlance, I wish the other Risen elder dragons were that hardcore

  • @projectfree8544
    @projectfree8544 Рік тому

    There were saying "if they attack you from the ground, go fly" most valstrax atk focus on ground if you succed doing air dodge it should be easy to avoid its chain atk

  • @KAT-zz9dv
    @KAT-zz9dv Рік тому +1

    To think that there's a monster that's more aggressive than nergigante 🥶

  • @deojxd4101
    @deojxd4101 Рік тому

    Danced with RCGV yesterday using my decked lance build damn felt like a slug fest...damn a boxing match for sure

  • @darkchaozbringer785
    @darkchaozbringer785 Рік тому

    Aside from a few glaring issues, let's focus on the one you briefly touched on unbeknownst to yourself - If counters (a small portion of the many OPTIONAL switch skills) become MANDATORY, the answer to your question is an very obvious yes; we have gone to far. Mind you, this response I'm making here is months later where we now have the new Malzeno that quite literally teleports faster than camera can manage. Valz, Malz, and Risen Shaggy are clear signs that the devs were swinging for the fences to create something "difficult", but just ended up fumbling in regards to the established design philosophy of the game. All the other monsters in the game fall in line to a degree, while these 3 function as if they were meant for a different game entirely.

  • @afeef2152
    @afeef2152 Рік тому

    that thing made my head hurts more than AT Velkhana

  • @blazyrod3313
    @blazyrod3313 Рік тому +1

    Kylo Ren: “MOOOORE”

  • @MetalHowitzer
    @MetalHowitzer Рік тому

    I like how hard this bastard is every time me and the boys go to fight him we’re scared the whole time because one screw up and your nearly dead or just dead its pure adrenaline that I feel like the other monsters lack the fear the feeling of fighting a superior being that will end if you don’t keep your composure something I hope monster hunter goes further into

  • @crag_
    @crag_ Рік тому

    I just remember struggling to kill the kut ku in 2006, never fought this thing but it looks crazy.