Bold and the Beautiful: 5 Grossest Things About this RJ, Luna, & Zende Plot!
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The Bold and the Beautiful storyline involving RJ Forrester (Joshua Hoffman), Luna Nozawa (Lisa Yamada), and Zende Forrester Dominguez (Delon de Metz) has sparked controversy among viewers. The plot, involving Luna's inadvertent drug use and ensuing intimate encounter with Zende, has been condemned for its handling of sensitive themes.
Luna's mother, Poppy Nozawa (Romy Park), has been heavily criticized for her irresponsibility in presenting serious drugs as harmless 'mints'. Meanwhile, RJ Forrester's casual revelations about Luna's virginity to others have been found distasteful and disrespectful.
The storyline has also come under fire for shifting the focus from Luna, who arguably is the victim, to the reactions of the other characters. This treatment of Luna's character raises questions about the handling of consent and victim trauma on the CBS soap opera.
It's not the first time head writer Brad Bell has been criticized for such depiction, with similar storylines involving Ridge Forrester (Thorsten Kaye) and Caroline Spencer in the past. Despite the controversy, The Bold and the Beautiful continues to intrigue its audience with its complex and provocative storylines.
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I don't know why RJ would send Luna outside by herself to wait for a ride. A gentleman would have went outside and stayed with her till her ride came and seen her safely on her way!!
Agreed!
I also agree with you both 100%. R J should not tell everybody at work he slept with Luna for the first time. R J is no gentleman.
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I agree it is senseless and does leave horrible thoughts re Brad Bell. He is a creep get rid of him
You're so right, weird & icky storyline, especially when she jumped right back in bed with RJ without telling him. 😬 This gives me the same feeling as when they passed Caroline Spencer II around, with Rick, Thomas, then 2x her age Ridge 🤢
Exactly I couldn't agree with you more on this one
I agree. RJ should have made sure Luna got home safe. That's what a true gentleman do. All of them need to take some responsibility.😮
This is so awful. I have no interest in this soap at this point. Why would a gorgeous, smart and talented man like Zende even be involved with RJ and his girlfriend
Give zendne his own woman. More young people. He is too sexy and beautiful to waist.
I think RJ is just weird anyway
RJ's like a muscle bound "shrimp" (on steroids?). Entitled rich kid. Goofy. Bad actor.
@@terrestrialradio
Everything you said. RJ is straight weird, goofy, naive and highly immature.
RJ is creepy imo
@@nlung12345 He is icky- telling everyone about sleeping with Luna.🤮
@@terrestrialradio that’s just gross. The way he’s telling everyone!
I agree Belinda, Luna and her feelings are not being considered. The storyline insults Luna and infers that Zende is an unthinking uncaring cad. Meanwhile RJ is like a rooster in the barnyard crowning about his conquest. Luna is a victim, and on another level so is Zende.
I haven’t watched b and b for over a week and surprisingly, I don’t feel like I missed a thing.
For real, it's been 3wk are longer since I've watched it myself.
You haven't missed a thing
I’m only watching if I like what’s in the spoiler. I don’t watch every day
Maybe you have to think what Bell thinks about. It is very sick the Luna storyline. She would feel violated. But the mindset a lot of his stories are made from. It’s a bit alarming really.
This whole storyline sums everything about Brad Bell's tenure at B&B it sucks period and it just shows me that he is a hack of a writer and needs too be removed.
Totally agree with all you said. The writers need to step up
Luna isn't right not telling RJ about sleeping with his cousin.smh watch her be pregant! Oh and please forget about so called "mints" They are drugs!!
Zende said they used protection...but did be she and RJ the next night???
You are right, the storyline is icky! The fact that RJ is crowing like a rooster in heat bragging about taking Luna's virginity, who does that when you respect and love someone? Is Brad Bell condoning sexual assault? Frankly, it is all sickening! I never liked RJ's character, now, the dislike is real! What the what? As my aunt used to say, "Everything is "a _ _" backwards!! Wow, Mr Bell, what gives? Belinda, you ate spot on! This soap is seriously in trouble!
RJ is a terrible actor, short, young man on steroids. How did he get this gig?
Sexual assault? Who was assaulted? Zende definitely didn't assault Luna.
Zende is a dog also. He works with all those beautiful models but he is only interested in his relative girlfriend
RJ and Luna need a break. They have been on EVERY episode for months!! Ready for new storylines with the regular cast
We need the break
They need to go to Paris and never come back
I watched this week because there were people other than RJ. I still got RJ, can’t shake him😅
It’s crazy that Bold has even done this, especially considering what just happened to Days losing a Lawsuit over something pretty similar to this very story but in Real Life!!
The whole storyline is crazy, Zenda would not have crossed that line. Remember when Carter liked Zoe , Zenda didn't cross that line with her when she tried to get him. They are ruining the Zenda character with this storyline. Stupid writing.😢
Instead of finding out what's troubling Luna, he goes for sex again. Great job and another pregnancy story in the works.
One thing I found hilarious the other day was Brooke telling RJ that he was 1/2 Logan and 1/2 Forrester, now forgive me if I’m wrong, but Eric isn’t Ridge’s biological father, Massimo Maroni is, so actually RJ is a Maroni. This entire storyline is absolutely disgusting and the only character I have any empathy for is Zende, he’s being thrown under the bus. I really want to see RJ, Luna and Poppy removed from the storyline, they are disgusting. The way RJ is bragging about taking Luna’s virginity is almost like him being so cocky (just like Ridge) and regarding her as an conquest, although I did like the fact that Hope tried to tell him not to discuss his exploits. Maybe Bill will send her to a rehab facility and then send her packing back to where she came from, after all, she only came to LA for a holiday
This story bother me too. Do writers think viewers like this. And RJ’s wardrobe is grampa (cardigans). The whole story. Don’t even know where to start
I know that RJ and Luna are over 18 and supposedly adults, but to me, they are like young teenagers who are pretending to be adults (especially in bed), and for B&B to be spending so much time on them is a bit ridiculous!!! There are so many other storylines that need to be shown more!
You're so right, I dislike the whole storyline.
Yes Beylnda it’s just gross and tacky if he’s such a wordy guy than he should have questioned more and less about what was going on!! Bell is just incesuast!! It’s rather gross 🤮
This shows RJ's immaturity. And you definitely know men are writing this story line. It's awful. I now record and skip through the parts with RJ and Luna. I don't like the storyline at all. I've been watching since the Bold & the Beautiful first started.
Writing is offensive in so many ways
How does this show stay on? Lather , rinse, repeat stories?! Unimaginable and humdrum writers . Watch the news if you need ideas!!😮
Bell thrives on these disgusting storylines bc he has a twisted mind. Not worth watching, so shove it, writers.
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I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID BELINDA!!! I SECOND THAT 💯💯.
This soap that I used to love is not only in TROUBLE, it s completely DOOMED! I am so sorry that Steffy, and I started to like the new couple Thomas & Hope are still waisting their talents in that creepy soap.
I think RJ needs to keep what he and Luna do sexually to himself. He’s acting like a child instead of a grown man.
Making it seem that all of a sudden Zende was always crazy for Luna 😒 yah? No🤨 he was jealous of RJ. And he didn't know Luna was a virgin or if she's a "party girl". They put her in his bed acting like a cat in heat and she didn't say RJ's name or I love you while she was there 😒 she was all frisky with him before she left the party so it could have been anybody who came in🤥
I don’t see why Zendaya would be in trouble at work or anywhere else there’s a naked girl in his bed saying she was waiting on him. He had been floating with her all night so he just assumed that she took him up on his offer. That’s the bottom line. I think RJ should have blocked her outside waited for her car to pick her up and her mom and her mints not Zendaya.
Walked
I think bell is still living in the past, when this behavior was acceptable, this storyline is despicable, if the writers think any viewers would enjoy this they all should be fired.
Beylnda Brad Bell needs fired!!
Luna was assaulted and it’s her mother fault!!
I totally agree with all you said💯💯...this awful storyline is ridiculous🤦♀️ ...and i feel so Sorry for luna😥. .she has nobody to turn to just for her and for them to be objective and to to express her feelings too. all she's gettng is "Dont tell RJ"....... "Dont tell RJ". "Dont tell RJ". from her dopey pill popping mom Poppy and her vengeful jealous boyfriend's cousin Zende neither has her best interest at heart💔. I wish she would had told RJ bc you can see its eating her up inside😢...but i really hope she doesn't fall for zende alternative of dropping RJ and being with him💔🤦♀️💯. She doesnt love or even care for him that way🤷♀️...she has never flirted or lead him on in anyway🤦♀️...his jealousy for his cousin didnt allow him to question why was she even in his room in his bed, he didnt care🤷♂️ Poppy is really the blame bc those are her drugs and zende kinda bc he could had been a man/ cousin and ask her if she's sure🤔. And he should had known she wasn't herself but he didn't care🤦♀️ ,he thought he had took something from Rj and he was happy🤗🤗🤗. Until he found out she thought he was RJ🤷♂️🤷♂️to me zende looks stupid😮😮
RJ's smug comments about his intimacy with Luna all over his workplace were disgusting.
And Zende's pathological proposal to have a relationship with Luna are thought numbing.
I don't care where this storyline goes except away.
Hi Belinda:
I look at Bold but I don't comment on it.
But, I just had to. I have one word for
the storyline "egregious".
In my opinion they need to end it now
Send Zenda to Paris or anywhere but stop this.
This is the grosses storyline Luna double dipping bed hopping with RJ & Zenda none of them ever showing them taking a shower period Luna showing no shame when she slept with RJ again the next day after she she slept Zenda RJ sounds like a pervert
Muscle milk...😂 you kill me Belinda! Yes, it's gross, absolutely gross
Not Zende's fault. Do you remember Z telling Luna if she wanted to talk, he lives across the corridor? Then he goes home and she is waiting in his bed!
Completely icky through and through…. And do these doors at Forester Creations not have LOCKS!
I think this storyline is horrible!! The worst one to me is Zende convincing Luna not too tell RJ an s be with him! What decent person does this! Zende wants RJ to thank that Luna wants him and then he will feel this us superior to RJ! He has been flirting with her anyway s I when she was in his bed he didnt care about finding out of her was drunk or not, he just wantef to have sex with her. Zende is an evil, jealous person and he is very jealous of RJ. I will be so glad when RJ and everybody in the show finds about what happened with Zende and I hope they let Zende know how disappointed they are with him for going to bed with his cousins girlfriend. I hope he pays dearly for it!!
9:21 This is some bad writing, I really think the pills/mints should have put Luna in the hospital. And Li or Finn treat her.
Can someone please tell me why Liam is able to walk into his ex-wives’ homes without knocking? He claims it’s because they share kids, but I still don’t understand.
What man in his right mind let kid or no kid disrespect like that there's away to do anything right
Maybe sender is not telling truth. Maybe they didn’t have sex. If not he should lie and let it go
Aunt lia was bang on about POPPY, Miss free spirit grow to F up . This show needs to write better, do better, just do better
i think zende is lieing abt using protection,yeah sure he stopped and got a condom beforehand,i doubt it...luna is gonna b pregnant nxt week😢
This whole thing is really getting nuts. This three-way is totally nuts. Enough is enough. either sit on the pot or get off. Let's move on people.
I keep my tv on mute for RJ, L and Z
So glad I did
Ugh 😩
Thanks for sharing in your own words…because I couldn’t have kept my coffee down hearing all this mess…I only started watching again when I found your podcast…but I know when to hold ‘em and know when to fold ‘em and when to flip the off button when necessary. Lol 😝
Thanks for the cringeworthy update
I think Rj Luna and zenda look like little teenagers I think it’s gross how they are making them look
Im so sick of them being on everyday
Would it have been better if Zende lied and they didn't have sex? I still don't like the storyline it is a recycled Thomas and ridge wife storyline.
Luna appears to be not thinking of it as an assult or a victim. It surprise me that Luna was so back in bed with RJ so quickly.
Luna is brokenhearted and she is only getting started because when she finds out RJ has been broadcasting their first time together she just might not like it appreciate that, people know when she and her boyfriend spent time with each other is nobody business, it's personal and should be considered special, that probably would make her feel uncomfortable being around people knowing that she got laid when it was supposed to be between the two of them,RJ is not mature enough for Luna, now she is cursed to carry a weight which was supposed to be another special night with her boo but she woke up to another guy which could seem like her worst nightmare, but the choices she is making right now could cause her more than she can bear, but she is young and will get over it, she needs to free herself from feeling guilty before RJ finds out some other way, there is no reason to delay telling RJ the truth because being in his face turning this into a ugly secret is wrong on her part and true love doesn't act like that, neither one of them knows about true love, they got puppy love for each other, this kind of burden will only strengthen them to become better people, she better hurry before RJ gets blindsided and im sorry is a lame excuse for betrayal, its not true, you dont betray and say im sorry, that just dont cut it nor justify it,
I'm sick of all that to
I agree! Also wardrobe! Icky Need new writers!😢
Belynda you are spot on with everything you said!!! my issue all along (and this is strictly on the writers) if luna was hallucinating so badly, there would have been other indications she was impaired that Zende could not overlook (miss?) - and therefore he should have known - i hesitate to say this cause i don't want him accused of assault (i love the character and the actor) but can't get over the thought either
Zende didn't know that Luna was impaired. Luna was flirting with zende at the party. She entered his place and claimed in his bed. She said she was waiting for him. Zende did what any man would've done.
@@nikkinicole3538 Not every man. Some would have never done that to their family member, some would have wondered wth she was doing there considering she has turned him down many times and never reciprocated any type of flirting or acted like she was into Zende, ever. Some would have asked other questions, engaged in a conversation...at least enough to know she was impaired big time by the way she was talking and acting. So no, not every man. Only the ones who didn't care to know the answer to those questions because he was thinking of nothing but two things: 1. The object of his obsession was finally his, and 2. This will show RJ. I'm the man....
THANK YOU! NO ONE is talking about the trauma Luna is feeling. Zende is a creep for the very reasons mentioned. No - he did not know Luna was drugged but he DID know that’s his cousins girlfriend! He didn’t care about RJ, family, etc. What he knew was that by sticking it to Luna, he was sticking it to RJ bc he’s THAT damn envious. EVERYONE is talking about themselves and no one - including Luna - is talking about Luna. It really does piss me off the way Brad Bell writes women as if they are inanimate objects.
RJ......is stll a baby .....needs to grow up
In todays world sleeping and saying your in liove should absolutely say..IM TAKEN..This is absolutly terruble. . ..You are absolutly rught..
We're supposed to believe a man Zende's age about 35, who has been around and can have any beautiful women, wants a unsophisticated 20 year old girl, it's almost predatory.
Zende needs to be as far from Luna as possible!! Him even asking Luna to be his Girlfriend (especially Knowing that she is with his COUSIN)!!
The Writers(including Bradley Bell)should've *NEVER* given *Destiny and Logan* a child up in this in the 1st place!.
I TOTALLY AGREE with the majority of all these comments. YUCK!🤮
You are absolutely correct Belinda, something is wrong with Bell and his, for writing such messy storylines, doesn't he pay heed to your comments and those who agree with you? Or is he on some kind of personal payback? Get some new writers!
Poppy offered Bill a pill right? That's so irresponsible! Offering someone drugs when you have no idea what health issues they have ...what medications they are on. So dangerous . Poppy is a mess.
Thank you!
I do not see this as Zendes fault at all. Zende did what almost any male would do. She gave consent.. he was unaware.
B&B has always been a sex show. All one ever sees are two people going at it, even in their place of business. Any conversation is met by a tumble on the couch, the floor, wherever ... I usually see about 10 minutes of it after fast forwarding through the bed scenes ...
Interesting B & B Topic on review here.
I'm one of the viewers that is not bothered by it all much. Your 5 "Icky" scenarios, are funny, though.
Yeah I am not happy about that either !! And don’t get me started on Thomas And Hope !!!! Omg quite making Thomas look so bad and slap Hope make her wake up.Thomas is 1000 times better than Leam omg
R.j. is very immature, honestly zendae, maybe a better man for her. I wish this storyline didn't go in this direction.
All I can say is thar totally agree with you on all terns about Luna, RJ, and Zende.
What is GROSS, the Bell family keeps approving these Me too RAPE storyline. Why are the BLACK male character involved in these storyline Zende and Malcolm from Y& R
As a black man I’m sick of race baiters … stop with playing the race card … u just a latent racist
💯 Belinda!! Like are there any women in the writers room? If they are trying to do a new Hope Liam Steffy young love triangle this ain’t it. Even the Hope, Oliver and Brooke story wasn’t this gross. Tack on how they had Eric talking to Zende too about Luna…the juxtaposition was gross. It’s just not cool in this climate. They dealt with it a little bit better when Ridge laced into Thomas when he did it to Caroline. The writing is terrible and has gone down hill. Just can’t watch this train wreck.
That's what I don't like about zenda, he knew she was with rj, rather she wasdrugged are not. He is just as guilty as poppy. He ain't innocent in this. And had the nerve to ask her to leave rj. I'm glad she say no.
You are right. 100%
This is a awful storyline to do to 3 young people, shame on you writer Brad Bell😢
RJ didn't send Luna outside, she told her boyfriend that she was going home and for him to stay at his Grand-father wedding.
Actually, you have to give kudos to hope. When the talk started happening about, you know, losing virginity.
Hope said we shouldn't be talking about this.
What a cast of creepy characters…….really all of them
And Zendae trying to convince her to be his girlfriend while she is clearly not in a good place right now! The whole story line is soooo bad and hate Zendae
They have turned Zende into a pathetic creepy stalker. Poppy should have never came to town. They gave her the right name. All she does is pop pills and now she has ruined her daughter's life.
Hey Belinda, you need to know this RIGHT NOW! MIchael Jackson NEVER called whatever he was drinking JESUS JUICE! That quote was completely MADE UP! Mike NEVER would've said such a thing because he grew up in the Jehovah Witness religion. WHERE did you HEAR that mess anyway, huh? PLEASE don't go around REPEATING that. As a LIFELONG MJ fan, I just felt the need to DEFEND him because he's the SINGER of MY HEART!
From watching the show for 25 years l know what will happen next, Luna and Zende will keep their night together secret from RJ, but LUNA will discover she is pregnant and not know if RJ or ZENDE is the father, LUNA will tell RJ she is pregnant with his kid and RJ will say his happy that his to be a father but then the truth will come out that ZENDE could be the DAd and RJ will leave luna. THats the same plot that they have used with other characters on the show about 100 times over the past 25 years
Agree with your post but this is Ba&B fodder. The terrible trios ridge bouncing in and out of bed with Brooke and Taylor(and I liked their faux friendship). The Ick queen Brooke whose criteria is to sleep with her is they must be related. Bill Bill Spencer, Fortester family Eric Ridge Thorne insinuate just fit at one point and who can forget all of Brooke’s trysts with her daughters lovers impregnated by Deacon married to deacon. Multiple flings with Nick again Bridget’s man. And who can forget patio sex with Oliver in goofy masks. Eric has mounted almost Logan family from mom and two daughters. Then there’s Spencer tango hope and steffy married to both Spencer brothers and steffy finally crossed line with. Only thing savingvaThomas and Will are they are blood relatives Lastly Rick affairs with steffy and Taylor. Ick is just writing non imagination. In city of 5 milllion?
Plz give us our beautiful couple thope , am tired with luna and rj , we need our beautiful couple thope , so many ppl fall in love with our beautiful thope , i dont mind zende and luna ,it would be nice
Hope is crazy to attach to psychopath Thomas.
@@terrestrialradioAnother icky storyline.
Can't believe how juvenile the story line is and how RJ is acting like a 6 year old. Also hate that the "office" is considered open to whoever wants to come in and attack family members about their issues. No business ever gets done and there is no boundaries. BTW, glad Taylor is gone, she was the worse!!!
You are so funny! Love it!
I agree with you about all of this. I didn’t think about how RJ was talking to people about taking Luna’s V card. I don’t listen to what he says mostly. I did laugh how you said you wouldn’t be surprised if Charlie or the guy he got his muscle milk from knows 😂. It is really bad that they’re making RJ the real victim when it is Luna. I get she’s upset that she’s hurt him but she needs to take a step back and realize what’s happened to her and she should tell him and if he doesn’t understand then forget him.
I totally agree with you Belinda! I don't like this storyline either, it is very gross! There is too much passing each other around between cousins, siblings and parents. Like I commented in a previou commentary, these people have no class. I hate several of these awful storylines. I also can't stand the Hope/Thomas relationship. Not just because he did so many terrible things to her, but they are family members. They share a brother (RJ) together, and their parents are together, married now or not; They've been married and have kids together. That means Hope/Thomas are connected by their half siblings. This is family!! What are the children suppose to call them--Aunt sister and Uncle Brother? Everytime they show Hope and Thomas in bed together, I wanna puke!! I don't care if it is just a soap opera. A message is being sent somewhere to young viewers who watch this show too. There's a subliminal message that this kind of behavior between step siblings is okay just because they're not full-blood siblings. Where's the respect for each other as family members? I know this is just a soap but it still should make sense. Desperate, unstable Thomas is even talking marriage and believes it's ok. Hes not even trying to get with anyone else. Why is he not attracted to one of those Neither models they work with? Hope knows it's not right but she can't stop being a freak with him. This is not a "hot" relationship and storyline, it's sick! For smart, brilliant people, they sure are dumb about this relationship. I wish the writers would bring back Sasha for Zende and get him away from Luna, but I'll bet they will nasty that storyline up even more by making her pregnant and not know who the father is or let her be pregnant with twins, making RJ the father of one and Zende the father of the other, since Luna slept with RJ one night and Zende the next night. It just seems anything goes on this soap opera.
Luna is the VICTIM here, this storyline is appalling!
I never liked the RJ character, the way he is being put on a pedastle because he is Ridge/Brooke's son. I can't believe the writers put them back together again for the 100th time and got rid of Taylor's character.
I'm fed up with the storyline
Zenda should not have touched Luna. Luna is his cousin RJ's girlfriend. Just saying
Not sure Zende cares.
Zenda needs to go away. And let rj and Luna along
Thank goodness no Luna and RJ today(Thursday) Such a relief. I am so sick of them.
Yes,Belinda. The whole storyline is terrible.
Rj, bragging about Luna losing her virginity ?
It’s not his business to tell the whole world.
The fact Luna , losing her virginity, 3 days later,
Sleeps with someone else?.
Dosent remember
Then she saids to Zadie,
Your a stand up guy?
Oh It’s not your fault ,
Your a nice guy?
Well, l would asking Zande
all sorts of
Questions’.
He would see she was not her self?
Like , he would seen she was out of it.
She would have called our RJ name,
Whist doing the deed.
It’s just a stupid story line .
Zende shouldn’t slept with his cousins girlfriend?
Who does that?
The bold do
I’m sick of poopy calling them
Mints.
There not mints ?
The whole thing is a mess
Zande all sudden Is in love with her?
Like it takes 2 ?
He tells her , leave Rj
Come with me
It’s so silly?
Love your segments .
Belinda x
I agree with you Belinda on everything you have addressed.
RJ, Zende, Poppy & Luna needs to go and take Brad Bell with you. PERIOD
I don't think Luna should tell RJ Poppy and Zende only looking out for themselves
If a naked woman is lying in a man's bed, talking about "I've been waiting for you", how is he supposed to know that she doesn't consent? That's stupid!