Replacing The Battery In A Honda Shadow 750
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- Time to change the battery in my 2005 Honda Shadow Spirit 750, so I thought I'd show you how it's done. Enjoy!
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The battery removal strap is genius
Yeah do you know where you could get some?
@@timmyearle7773 No idea where to get the strapping from but other things could be adapted such as zip ties or folded up gaffer tape maybe.
All that did was throw sparks and heat up.
A belt also works great! I couldn’t find anything to work then when I had my head in my hands looking at the floor I saw my belt. Eureka!
Hey thank you for showing that direction on how to remove the battery. Everybody's telling me it comes out from the side and I was fighting it and fighting it and fighting it. Found your video. I had it out in like 5 minutes.
Well done on clearly explaining the terminal connection/disconnection order Fran. So many make this mistake and it's very important to get right.
I did not know that it was different for batteries. I've used flukes all my life and it's the opposite of connecting a battery. Wild.
That strap idea was a big brain move. I was having trouble trying to get it out with my big hands and didn’t even think of doing this.
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Well you've got a bike and guitars so there's my two favourite passtimes covered ! Peace and love and thanks for the videos they're so informative and entertaining. 👍🏻☮❤
I have the same year and model bike. I just used your strap idea to remove my old battery and it really helped. It seems that the Shadow is notorious for this battery drain issue.
Transalp 600 rider here. Beautiful bike, deserves some love (cleaning!) :D My tip is using JIS screwdrivers when doing a little more work on those old Japanese bikes, to avoid ruining the soft phillips head screws. Good idea on checking the regulator voltage regularly, those are notorious for ruining the battery when voltage is too high.
I put a 12v accessory plug for my GPS in addition to a charging adapter on my 750 Shadow Spirit. Sold that bike though. Thanks for the video - brought back memories.
I don't mind if you do more videos like this honestly you could do a video on microwaving a frozen meal and I'd probably watch.
Very helpful! I have pretty much the same bike and watched this prior to doing a battery change today. Made it so much easier. Thank you.
You're welcome!
I could not get that battery out of the box to save my life. Made one of your little handles and it popped right out! THANKS!!
Love the handle!! I have 2 M5x100's to lift mine out ....never thought of making a handle! until now.
I love it when you show your bike! Feel free to do so as often as you wish!
Ma'm thank you for teaching me how to replace my first bike's battery for the first time :).
Only for you would I watch something I know exactly how to do to the end. Glad you are still doing good Fran!
just subscribed, just got my license, bought this exact bike lastnight. rode 1hr home through lots of towns, handled beautiful
THANK YOU FRAN!!! Your instructions are easy to understand and follow!!❤
uh... looking at the wiring diagram, I think what your testing when you find that high resistance load is...well... the bike. Well, the bike or your starter relay switch is a high resistance short to ground, or a wire related to the starter relay has some chaffed insulation and its about to short to ground.
@franblanche +1 for keeping that old bike going, I learned a lot from mine, included in that is to always brink a LiPo jump pack, and drop in a cut-off switch & a permanent supercap bank to replace the battery at the earliest convenience.
The stator is so horrid I took an Altoids tin lid & installed a Schenzen market voltmeter attached to the handlebars so I could get a warning when the charging system was going out.
Love the plastic strap trick. I loosely wrap a couple of zip ties around the battery when installing it. Same net result. Your aux charging adapter can also be used to power a cell phone charger...
Love the videos Fran!
My car is sitting outside year round, too. I've had my battery changed in 01/2017. It's still going strong. A plain and simple lead-acid battery for 40 bucks, really nothing fancy. Once I've had to boost it because I left on the light for 7 hours, but that's to be expected.
Have you considered mounting a battery cut-off switch to completely isolate the battery? That may help the slight drain.
Yes, and more work for me!
@@FranLab isn't that the fun of it? Lol
Doing that is one of my tasks once the shop is done with my 1998 BMW R1100R (it was parked for 3 years so needs some work to run again.) There's a persistent drain that I think is from the analogue clock in the console that, after 3-7 days, depending on the temperature, takes the battery down enough it won't start.
I also need to finally wire a switch for the ABS power. It's a work-around for a problem with that generation of ABS system - it will go into an error state and require being powered off to clear if the voltage drops below something like 11 or so volts which can happen when starting while it's cold out. However, it doesn't care if the engine is already running when it gets power, only that the bike isn't moving, so the work-around is to switch it off, start the bike and let it run for a little bit, then switch the ABS on and it works fine.
I see Fran, I see a bike, I like... That nylon strap is brilliant!
My old Yamaha is ‘72 650XS had some fun electrical issues. The best one I recall was turning on the lights as the sun was going down and the bike completely shutting down and me wiping out on the shoulder. Went back the next day and found I had about 2 more feet to go before I went over a cliff into lake Travis 50 feet below. New battery, too.
I love to watch someone who knows what they're doing! It would be nice if you did another ride around town video... different time of year would be a contrast from the first one...
Fantastic and simple idea with the self made tool to get the battery out! :) I`m going to make one too!
Fran, I really appreciate that you pointed out that it's a Phillips #3. There is a huge difference!
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Brilliant solution for removing the battery!! Only common sense hack I’ve found. 🙌
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I've had an odyssey battery in my Ducati for over ten years, having a great run with that.
Hi Fran - Cool bike and thanks for the tip on the lifting strap. My bike lives outside year round as well, I use an isolator switch and solar trickle charger and they can be a big help, even in winter.
I used to put a strap under the battery to make it easier to remove...never thought about just bolting it on the top...nice life hack Fran!
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This was perfect! Thanks so much for the excellent video - exactly what I needed!
Fran, when you replace the battery, it is good to clean the connectors with fine sandpaper or a brush and apply chemical protection. Best wishes! :-)
I ride a '94 Magna 750, very similar electronics, and one thing that is often responsible for premature battery failure on these bikes is a defective Rectifier/Regulator (R/R) module. I installed an LED voltmeter on my battery terminals that I can turn on and off with a toggle switch. When riding, regardless of engine RPM, the charging voltage on your battery terminals should never exceed 15VDC. If it does, that'll cook your battery in short order. Typically the voltage increases with RPM. When you checked yours in the video, it appears to decrease. ?? Typically my voltage runs 14.4VDC max. R/R failure is quite common resulting in voltages of 20+VDC, and replacement of the module is easy, So I'd suggest you add this as a way to continuously monitor your charging performance as you ride.
Looks like you got an endless supply of cool stuff! Really enjoy all your videos!
The strap thing to take out the battery is ingenius
That is great on the battery replacement I would love to see the wires going into see module on top of your battery I can't find it anywhere somebody had pulled the wires out of the module
Cool handle . Simple . I like that .
8M ohms might be that module or something. What I’d do Fran is put your meter in amperage mode, and put your meter in series between one battery cable and the battery terminal. You should see either nothing or a few milliamperes which could be a “sleeping” module. If you saw something over 100mA or even an amp or so I’d be concerned. In that case, while observing your meter, disconnect fuses and or disconnect modules one at a time. It could also be resistance in the ignition switch or something (due to gunk or corrosion or something).
Hope this helps. Good video Fran!
Fran. I think you will find that the resistive load will be the diode leakage of the bridge rectifier. The other is the capacitor used in the ignition circuit that is leaking, but this is not too bad.
Yes, the ignition circuit is disconnected with the ignition off but the rectifier is always across the battery.
You use a Tru-Gel battery is that a good brand ? & do you have a video on how to make the wire for the remote battery charger , where to get the materials etc; ? Thankyou for the video
That is a nice bike. There are electronics in mordern viercels that are always running, imobalisers are one case, clocks another. The ECU usualy has some power permintly running into it to run such functions, starting the engin etc.
Have you thought about hooking up a small solar charger to it?
Only if I wanted it stolen.
Did you ever find out what the parasitic draw was?
I have an idea it might be the cdi but the only way to check would be to unplug and then ohm test.
At 14, I found out why you disconnect the negative first. A metal watchband can get hot real fast....
Hi Fran. I have 2009 shadow 750 and my turn signals inconsidently work. Im thinking it's the turn signal relay. Have you had this issue? Im new to repairing motorcycles and I ant figure out how to get the plastic cover off. Ugh
I'm switching to using Super Capacitors in my vehicle to make it less likely I need to replace the battery in my car. I designed a 3D Printed case for 6x capacitors to use up the space of a normal sized battery.
I'm no electrical expert but I noticed you have a digital odometer. Doesn't it cause a small electrical drain for the memory function?
I was trying to get the battery out and my girlfriend used shoe string. It came right out, I was so impressed.
Freaking brilliant. Subscribed!!
I have a trickle charger that gives all kinds of varying voltage readings after hooking up, but then it settles to 13.6 V. I have not checked how accurate it is, but there is a nagging other number in my head saying that the full charge (before the long term trickle) is 2.35 V per lead acid cell.. So you may be spot on. However, somebody else mentioned missing one of the three phases of the alternator. If that would be the case, then the peak voltage at the battery terminals remains the same, but with plenty of ripple,, the charging current would be reduced. Also, the battery may not like the ripple. I don't know if you have means of measuring the charging current ripple, but that would possibly be worth trying.
Honda reg/rect's are notorious,especially on the VFR range. didn't known you rode. Great idea with the strap
I had one go on a 94 Magna once. It was on the bottom of the battery box.
@@DanielleWhite mmmhh get a lot cooling down there :O ) sometimes I wonder about Honda
My friend had a Yamaha Virago 1100 and it had a very big and heavy battery on it, looked way bigger than this one. How many CC's is the shadow is the 750 just the model or is that the capacity, it looks more like 1100.
Helped me a great deal, thanks a lot!! ❤️
I have a question. The module you move that sits on top of the battery, what is that? I have a 2000 but the cover of that module is gone and the board is exposed.
I can't get my battery out for some reason but I'm going to try your idea. Great video of
thank you for making this video,
I have a honda shadow too and I need to change the battery!
it's my first motorcycle and even though I've had it hooked up to a trickle charger, the cold temps here have sapped all the cranking power out of the battery! :(
So there is nothing holding the battery down besides the connectors and gravity? Mine is in there solid and I'm almost scared to use more force on it
why dont you make a desufator? ive saved soo many batteries using it including saving one for over 4 times
Nice bike there Fran, I like the battery lifting idea. I had a Moto Guzzi and the previous owner had left a boot lace around the battery I found out its usefulness when I had to remove it.........common sense ideas win every time.
Cool looking motorcycle!! Looks fun!
Hey, can you make a video showing how to make your custom charging cable?
Fran that power drain is interesting.... if you ever work it out I wound love to know
Why would you buy the same model battery if it only lasted 2 years? That is a defective battery, unless there is another electrical problem.
Thanks! This helped me a lot!
Great, super practical tips!
If you bike keeps going dead, its NOT the battery its either 1. The voltage rectifier, 2. If older bike its a blocking diode located near the stator pack.
Also you should see 14.7v to charge lead acid battery, but if AGM you require 13.7 no more or you will damage the cells in an AGM battery.
Oooooh what a beautiful bike! One day hope to have a bike to ride one day
The nylon strap tool @ 3:12 is genius!
You continue to impress me.
They cost a lot more but I put a lithium battery in my 2014 Fury 1300. Expensive but much longer life
So cool that you have a 750 shadow, I have a 1100 shadow in addition to the 1300 Fury
How is your honda Fury if you compare it to your honda shadow ?
You should probably put in a fuse for your external battery charging adapter - just in case the wire should get pinched somewhere to the frame and short out or your charger screwing up. At least that's how I would have done it :3
The nylon battery lifting strap is a good idea.
Nice job, use a solar trickle charger ?
Hi Fran. Nice to see your bike again. I suppose this is an obvious question, but given that winter will be coming as usual, why don't you take the battery indoors for the winter? Or are you able to ride it occasionally in the winter for short trips?
Love your video😉
Thank you for this tutorial
Now we got some content !! ❤️👍
'Glad I didn't buy a Shadow! I bought a 1990 Nighthawk 750 and the battery was easily accessible thru a side panel which snapped off, battery was a lead/acid. Make sure the ignition connectors are clean and free of corrosion as sometimes they leak across to another terminal and might be leaking some current from the battery. Wish you well with your Shadow Fran. Walt in Miami
Maybe wise to put a 5 amp inline fuse next to the positive on the charging connector wire. This could avoid an unscheduled ElectroBoom moment...
Fiddly job, that. What a good looking bike though! That charge adapter is very handy.
Thanks, smart lady!
Nice Honda, Fran.
Time for a Lithium battery?
Another Dave meter pulling video duty. :)
What would happen if you put a true cut-off switch at the battery? At least you'd limit the battery to self-discharge rate.
I have no idea if that year Shadow has an actual need for actual continuous power, or if you have an alarm system on it.
Dad has a honda shadow spirt 750 he been trying to sell for $2500. I think it has about 300 or less miles on it. His back can't take riding. Wanna say it's an 02 model with a cobra exhaust, corbin leather seats, and swapped over to leds.
how much louder is that horn fran ? Or should i say that life saver.
love the vids
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If the resistance through your bike connections were infinite then I would say you had a real starter relay. But since it is several megohms I bet its a solid state relay.
Will this fix my Honda shadow 07 speedometer ?
2 years is average life for smaller batteries. I really like the strap idea.
Does the parasitic load doesn't light up a test light?
There must be some drain on the battery or you are not driving often enough or far enough to keep it charged. Presuming charge system is good. With a few exceptions, no one parks their car indoors where I live in NY on Long Island. Outdoor year round. Every house has a garage with everything in them - except a car. Wet cell sealed or not, 5 yrs minimum. Then replaced as a routine, if one can afford to. Otherwise take it to failure.
A little help to find the drain. removce fuses one at a time and chack ti see if the drain is gone. Won't tell you exactly what it is but will get youy into the ball psrk.
Fran is amazing.
Nice bike Fran!