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The way you taught this was great. I can say I never couldn’t see your point. When I first heard you teach on this I was very skeptical. I’m starting to believe the earth could be flat. Like you said, it has nothing to do with my salvation. I seek knowledge about God and his word. You’re helping me with that. I know one day I will shake your hand in heaven and say “Thank you David, for letting the Lord use you while we were on earth”. God bless you brother. 🙏🤝
@@terrymalicoat6892 the planets appear to be a different form of star because 2 Kings 23:5 replaces the word "stars" to planets. This is the only occurrence of the word "planets." Inside the word is the word "plane." If they are within the double pane firmament that is filled with water, they appear to be lights dancing in water. There was a scientist in the early 60's who stated that no one was going to the moon because it was made of plasma. See: ua-cam.com/video/1oCNGcbwxWg/v-deo.html No doubt the man was blackballed.
Excellent. Thank you for your teachings. So many believers don’t believe the truth. Amen. Since 2012. Believed the Earth was not a spinning ball. So grateful to have found a balanced king James teacher, that is not afraid to even research this. This channel is a blessing. This teacher is a blessing to us. The Lord bless you and your family.
So sad to see those self-proclaimed KJV Bible-believing pastors bash flat earth that can be inferred from the KJV. Hypocrisy at its finest. I have unfollowed them all. 😢
Some good verses on the matter 1 Chronicles 16:30: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable.” Psalm 93:1: “Thou hast fixed the earth immovable and firm .” Psalm 96:10: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable ” Psalm 104:5: “Thou didst fix the earth on its foundation so that it never can be shaken.” Isaiah 45:18: “...who made the earth and fashioned it, and himself fixed it fast...”
Wow, I was having this discussion with the Lord this morning, again. After hearing you discuss this in another teaching yesterday. I have touched on this ? before, but didn't put a lot of time in it. Being an artist we study the horizon line, it is always flat and straight. Vanishing point is where things disappear from sight. Round earthers use the argument that as the earth curves...that is the reason for the vanishing point. I don't buy it. Still cant quite understand how the sun works though. I may do some more research on this now. Thank you for talking about this intelligently. Psalm 104:5 states the earth was formed on foundations and will not move. I brought this up one time with a friend that I think the earth is flat and doesn't move. He said what about earthquakes. I let it drop. I had to laugh when you mentioned the poetry. They facing off against this army and he is going to have time for poetry? Really???? Shalom and thanks.
The sun moves over the earth in a circle motion. Solomon says in Ecclesiastes that the sun has a circuit. When it’s summer in North America the sun is closer to the center of the earth, the North Pole: when it’s summer in South America and Australia, the sun is closer to the Antarctic circle. The sunsets during the southern continents summer is actually 15 minutes faster because the sun has to speed up because of a bigger circuit path. Solomon expresses this also in Eccl. 1: 5 - “The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose.” The sun hastens. The Bible is absolutely clear that the sun moves over a stationary earth. I was watching a documentary about Islam and it’s false teachings and they were saying that the Koran is not inspired bc it Muhammad taught the hat the sun moved over the earth ( I don’t believe the Koran is inspired, I believe Muslim faith is satanic) but to say that as a Christian is ignorant bc the Bible again is clear in its teaching of the motion of the sun.
@@mikewallace4497 thank you for your fine comment. It simply stated the idea without any berating of another. That is a good find about the sun hastening.
It’s so much easier to just believe what the scripture actually says, think how much school indoctrination and mental gymnastics it takes to believe what the secular world believes
Geocentricity and a flat earth are two different subjects. I 100% agree with you concerning geocentricity versus heliocentricity, but I would like to ask you to please explain how I can video chat with my granddaughter in Japan and I can see that the sun is rising there while it is setting here? How does the sun get from the west at night to the east in the morning? How did my son fly from Las Vegas to Hawaii, across the ocean continually heading East and to reach Tokyo to visit his daughter in Japan? How do people cross Antarctica in about a week if it encircles the entire earth? I don't understand how these things can be unless the earth is shaped as a sphere.
One may not be able to answer every question to one's satisfaction about the flat earth, but I see more problems with the heliocentric globe than I do with the geocentric flat earth. This video might be able to help: ua-cam.com/video/tPvwdn6Iodo/v-deo.html The Antarctic question is something I cannot answer because the governments of the world have a treaty that forbids independent studies or visits to the place.
@Purewordsoftruth1611 I will try to watch the videos you suggested tomorrow. I didn't see your reply until now and I need to get some sleep, but what are your thoughts about a egocentric globe?
The way you taught this was great. I can say I never couldn’t see your point. When I first heard you teach on this I was very skeptical. I’m starting to believe the earth could be flat. Like you said, it has nothing to do with my salvation. I seek knowledge about God and his word. You’re helping me with that. I know one day I will shake your hand in heaven and say “Thank you David, for letting the Lord use you while we were on earth”. God bless you brother. 🙏🤝
Thank you for your kind words and your gracious approach to truth.
A follow up question to this study:
Do you think the moon and other planets are not a sphere/ball? Any biblical verses about them? Thank you.
@@terrymalicoat6892 the planets appear to be a different form of star because 2 Kings 23:5 replaces the word "stars" to planets. This is the only occurrence of the word "planets." Inside the word is the word "plane." If they are within the double pane firmament that is filled with water, they appear to be lights dancing in water. There was a scientist in the early 60's who stated that no one was going to the moon because it was made of plasma. See: ua-cam.com/video/1oCNGcbwxWg/v-deo.html No doubt the man was blackballed.
I'm laughing so hard at what Martin Luther said 😂. And I don't feel the "spinning" either 🤔. Great study pastor Hoffman 👍
Praying The Lord gives you more time in the days and energy to make more videos because the time is short
I love your videos sir. Please keep uploading!!
Excellent. Thank you for your teachings. So many believers don’t believe the truth. Amen.
Since 2012. Believed the Earth was not a spinning ball. So grateful to have found a balanced king James teacher, that is not afraid to even research this.
This channel is a blessing. This teacher is a blessing to us. The Lord bless you and your family.
Thank you for your kind words. Some KJV guys are upset about this topic.
There are always some. Lol But I share your view with others and they are grateful for your teaching also
So sad to see those self-proclaimed KJV Bible-believing pastors bash flat earth that can be inferred from the KJV. Hypocrisy at its finest. I have unfollowed them all. 😢
Some good verses on the matter
1 Chronicles 16:30: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable.”
Psalm 93:1: “Thou hast fixed the earth immovable and firm .”
Psalm 96:10: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable ”
Psalm 104:5: “Thou didst fix the earth on its foundation so that it never can be shaken.”
Isaiah 45:18: “...who made the earth and fashioned it, and himself fixed it fast...”
Before Gleason, you also have the Mapa Urbano Monte of 1587 and many more flat earth maps
Wow, I was having this discussion with the Lord this morning, again. After hearing you discuss this in another teaching yesterday. I have touched on this ? before, but didn't put a lot of time in it. Being an artist we study the horizon line, it is always flat and straight. Vanishing point is where things disappear from sight. Round earthers use the argument that as the earth curves...that is the reason for the vanishing point. I don't buy it. Still cant quite understand how the sun works though. I may do some more research on this now. Thank you for talking about this intelligently. Psalm 104:5 states the earth was formed on foundations and will not move. I brought this up one time with a friend that I think the earth is flat and doesn't move. He said what about earthquakes. I let it drop. I had to laugh when you mentioned the poetry. They facing off against this army and he is going to have time for poetry? Really???? Shalom and thanks.
The sun moves over the earth in a circle motion. Solomon says in Ecclesiastes that the sun has a circuit. When it’s summer in North America the sun is closer to the center of the earth, the North Pole: when it’s summer in South America and Australia, the sun is closer to the Antarctic circle. The sunsets during the southern continents summer is actually 15 minutes faster because the sun has to speed up because of a bigger circuit path. Solomon expresses this also in Eccl. 1: 5 - “The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose.” The sun hastens. The Bible is absolutely clear that the sun moves over a stationary earth. I was watching a documentary about Islam and it’s false teachings and they were saying that the Koran is not inspired bc it Muhammad taught the hat the sun moved over the earth ( I don’t believe the Koran is inspired, I believe Muslim faith is satanic) but to say that as a Christian is ignorant bc the Bible again is clear in its teaching of the motion of the sun.
@@mikewallace4497 thank you for your fine comment. It simply stated the idea without any berating of another. That is a good find about the sun hastening.
@@mikewallace4497 Thank you for responding. I appreciate your knowledge on this. More study for me. Shalom and happy new year.
@@shirah9582 amen absolutely
It’s so much easier to just believe what the scripture actually says, think how much school indoctrination and mental gymnastics it takes to believe what the secular world believes
Geocentricity and a flat earth are two different subjects. I 100% agree with you concerning geocentricity versus heliocentricity, but I would like to ask you to please explain how I can video chat with my granddaughter in Japan and I can see that the sun is rising there while it is setting here? How does the sun get from the west at night to the east in the morning? How did my son fly from Las Vegas to Hawaii, across the ocean continually heading East and to reach Tokyo to visit his daughter in Japan? How do people cross Antarctica in about a week if it encircles the entire earth? I don't understand how these things can be unless the earth is shaped as a sphere.
One may not be able to answer every question to one's satisfaction about the flat earth, but I see more problems with the heliocentric globe than I do with the geocentric flat earth.
This video might be able to help: ua-cam.com/video/tPvwdn6Iodo/v-deo.html
The Antarctic question is something I cannot answer because the governments of the world have a treaty that forbids independent studies or visits to the place.
This video might help also: ua-cam.com/video/tkBlFTcBpFQ/v-deo.html
May the Lord bless you.
thank you for your questions. You helped me.
This might help also: ua-cam.com/video/xstKfD8qKY4/v-deo.html.
@Purewordsoftruth1611 I will try to watch the videos you suggested tomorrow. I didn't see your reply until now and I need to get some sleep, but what are your thoughts about a egocentric globe?
@@bartonandlucindabedwell554 egocentric sounds suspicious to me, but it does provide another option.