5 Albums to Get You Into POST HARDCORE

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  • Опубліковано 24 чер 2018
  • I’m talking about Post Hardcore today, and I’ve got five cracking records for you to take a listen to! What are your favourite Post Hardcore records? Let me know in the comments section below!
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    TOP 5 ALBUMS TO GET YOU INTO POST HARDCORE:
    1) Quicksand - Slip (1993)
    2) Fugazi - Red Medicine (1995)
    3) At The Drive In - Relationship of Command (2000)
    4) Unwound - Leaves Turn Inside You (2001)
    5) The Fall of Troy - Doppelgänger (2005)
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 732

  • @SEGAClownboss
    @SEGAClownboss 6 років тому +253

    Leaves Turn Inside You was so good it killed the post-hardcore genre

    • @gabrielmarcal683
      @gabrielmarcal683 2 роки тому +6

      It could be said it killed rock music, but that's maybe kinda cliché

    • @dafizakaria727
      @dafizakaria727 2 роки тому

      fuckk yesss!!

    • @analazovic441
      @analazovic441 11 місяців тому +1

      džoniiiiiii

    • @djed7235
      @djed7235 8 місяців тому

      ? 2002 saw some of the best of the genre

  • @Arkain89
    @Arkain89 6 років тому +407

    Another victim of the Waldo shirt

    • @MarkQuick0411
      @MarkQuick0411 6 років тому +4

      -xX666Archain666Xx- I Approved by China 1927-1949 damn you got good eyes

    • @user-wo5tc9ux7u
      @user-wo5tc9ux7u 3 роки тому +4

      wally not waldo

    • @samboger25
      @samboger25 3 роки тому +2

      lol I've got a Waldo shirt

    • @needfoolthings
      @needfoolthings 3 роки тому

      Sartorially valuable. See how the stripes meet at the shoulders?

  • @rockkiller124
    @rockkiller124 6 років тому +159

    My personal favorites:
    NoMeansNo - Wrong
    Fugazi - The Argument
    Hüsker Dü - Zen Arcade
    Gospel - The Moon Is A Dead World
    Thrice - Vheissu
    Orchid - Dance Tonight! Revolution Tomorrow!
    ....also mentioned Leaves Turn Inside You and Relationship Of Command from the video.

    • @lessthanpinochet
      @lessthanpinochet 5 років тому +23

      Wrong is fucking awesome and definitely fits the eighties definition of post hardcore.

    • @dakane328
      @dakane328 4 роки тому +11

      imo orchid are unappreciated as an influence on extreme music as a whole, not just post hardcore/skramz

    • @midnuit4452
      @midnuit4452 3 роки тому +7

      Thrice pick is based

    • @irisink
      @irisink 3 роки тому +4

      I love The Argument as my Fugazi's favourite.

    • @beebbeebson259
      @beebbeebson259 3 роки тому +2

      idk if zen arcade fits post hardcore

  • @tchoupitoulos
    @tchoupitoulos 3 роки тому +83

    Big Black - Atomizer
    The Jesus Lizard - Goat
    Slint - Spiderland
    Shellac - At Action Park
    Minutemen - Three Way Tie (For Last)
    Bonus: Green River - Rehab Doll

    • @drdelewded
      @drdelewded 3 роки тому +6

      This, so much more this than his list

    • @conneither
      @conneither 3 роки тому +33

      albini-core

    • @drdelewded
      @drdelewded 3 роки тому +3

      @@conneither Drums by Roland..

    • @brainrottedindividual
      @brainrottedindividual 3 роки тому +1

      i like this list

    • @slimchance7748
      @slimchance7748 3 роки тому +1

      Rad list! To me, Slint & Minutemen albums could be the ‘stranded on a desert island’, top of the list.

  • @gimmick_central
    @gimmick_central 6 років тому +40

    Unwound is the best band of the nineties to me. Every album of theirs has been my favorite at one point

  • @caiojulioary
    @caiojulioary 6 років тому +130

    Doppelgänger by Fall of Troy is so damn underrated...

    • @letzteraufruf4053
      @letzteraufruf4053 3 роки тому +2

      I love this so much!

    • @Togotzi
      @Togotzi 3 роки тому +2

      I saw them love before they blew up. All my friends were so blown away to listen to them for the first time live. My friends actually play with some of the members or at least they did before covid

    • @RyanRexWrex
      @RyanRexWrex 3 роки тому +2

      Such a great album

    • @Digital_PeterGriffin
      @Digital_PeterGriffin 2 роки тому +1

      My favorite is Collide with the Sky by Pierce the Veil. Selfish machines is a close second

    • @DillyWilly-pl7cc
      @DillyWilly-pl7cc Рік тому

      @@Digital_PeterGriffin my fav by ptv is either selfish machines or a flair for the dramatic tbh

  • @ResistReact
    @ResistReact 5 років тому +54

    Mines are:
    Rites of Spring - s/t
    Fugazi - Repeater
    Drive Like Jehu - Yank Crime
    At The Drive In - Relationship of Command
    Refused - Shape of Punk to Come

    • @pinkraven4402
      @pinkraven4402 4 роки тому +7

      @@usualdosage7287 I disagree. The list from the video is "albums to GET YOU INTO post-hardcore", not "best albums". Albums like "Yank Crime" are definitely not for beginners unless you already like dissonant music. It's a very abrasive, dissonant album. That's its beauty ofc, but not necessary best album to begin post-hardcore journey. But as I said, depend on where you came from. Also "The Shape..." is kinda more Avantgarde

    • @brainrottedindividual
      @brainrottedindividual 3 роки тому +3

      @@pinkraven4402 i was mad he left out jehu but this makes a lot of sense.

    • @andreyzorkin9324
      @andreyzorkin9324 3 роки тому

      Fuck man, Drive Like Jehu fckn good! I forget! Thanks mate!

    • @josevargas685
      @josevargas685 3 роки тому

      Dinosaur jr anybody?

    • @tigerxbeach
      @tigerxbeach Місяць тому

      These are great albums! Personally, I prefer the S/T Drive Like Jehu album... Thrasher magazine coined the term emo-core to describe Rites of Spring and Embrace to which Ian M responded "Isn't hardcore emotional enough already???" And I mention this only because I don't think there is anything "post" about it... These are all still basically hardcore albums or emo or punk albums... Stop calling this "Post-hardcore".

  • @michaelray7505
    @michaelray7505 6 років тому +253

    I MUST HAVE READ A THOUSAND FAAAAAAACEEEEEES!!!!!!!!

    • @adorno_gang37
      @adorno_gang37 6 років тому +22

      I MUST HAVE ROBBED THEM OF THEIR CAUSE

    • @danekelley3117
      @danekelley3117 6 років тому +21

      SICKENED THIRST SICKENED THIRST GLUES IT TOGETHERRRRR

    • @Connorslamevideos
      @Connorslamevideos 6 років тому +17

      SOFT WHITE GLOW IN THE CRANIUM A BULLSEYE MADE SEDATEEED

    • @EclecticoIconoclasta
      @EclecticoIconoclasta 6 років тому +38

      gucci gang gucci gang gucci gang

    • @coffdrop77
      @coffdrop77 6 років тому +2

      Ecléctico Iconoclasta Spent ten racks on new chains

  • @hgoh95
    @hgoh95 6 років тому +31

    Leaves Turn Inside You is one of the best albums ever. I love it so much

  • @codymcgrew4015
    @codymcgrew4015 3 роки тому +14

    Big Black - entire catalog
    Scratch Acid - entire catalog
    Fugazi - entire catalog (but In On The Kill Taker is my favorite)
    Rites Of Spring - s/t
    Hüsker Dü - Zen Arcade

    • @tigerxbeach
      @tigerxbeach Місяць тому

      In the 1980s there were two different TV shows called Voltron which were almost the same but different... That is what Big Black and Husker Du is to post-hardcore. It is a completely different genre. Personally, I don't think that anything that still sounds that punk is post-hardcore.

  • @blakewesthomas8051
    @blakewesthomas8051 6 років тому +357

    Honestly, a 5 albums midwestern emo video would be pretty tight

    • @spoonmeanie5644
      @spoonmeanie5644 3 роки тому +10

      Not necessarily midwest emo but just emo in general:
      Lobsterfight- Pink Black and Orange in the Corners
      Rites of Spring- Rites of Spring
      Weezer- Pinkerton
      American Football- American Football
      Sunny Day Real Estate- Diary

    • @bassman2189
      @bassman2189 3 роки тому +8

      @@spoonmeanie5644 my chem but not mineral-the power of failing or sunny day real estate-diary. Those bands are at least closer to Midwest emo than mcr, just my two cents though.

    • @Skramzgangit
      @Skramzgangit 3 роки тому +4

      @@spoonmeanie5644 My Chemical Romance ain't emo chief

    • @spoonmeanie5644
      @spoonmeanie5644 3 роки тому

      @@SkramzgangitSorry 😔

    • @th3giv3r
      @th3giv3r 3 роки тому +4

      Appleseed Cast - Mare Vitalis, and I will always prefer "How It Feels..." to "Diary" sorry not sorry

  • @marcosencarnacao9908
    @marcosencarnacao9908 6 років тому +44

    Seeing you talk about Leaves Turn Inside You and Red Medicine made my day

  • @whatfuckinwaster
    @whatfuckinwaster 6 років тому +50

    Leaves turn inside you is amazing. terminus is such a masterpiece

    • @InfamousQwaQwaFruit
      @InfamousQwaQwaFruit 6 років тому +9

      That one, Off This Century, and October All Over just blow me away. Such great writing.

    • @rashotcake6945
      @rashotcake6945 3 роки тому +2

      It kinda reminds me of Marque Moon during the first third but then it goes off and does it’s own thing

  • @LewBro95
    @LewBro95 5 років тому +43

    I feel Bear Vs Shark never get nearly enough recognition, Terrorhawk is one of the greatest post hardcore albums imo

  • @Hummabubba
    @Hummabubba 6 років тому +104

    Was NOT expecting The Fall of Troy! Not sure why I wasn't, just all the other bands seemed so traditionally classic. Doppelganger is one of my absolute favorite albums of all time. Literally EVERY song on here is amazing. Never ever is there a dull moment on here. Nice list.

    • @huntermauk9601
      @huntermauk9601 6 років тому +12

      Totally agree, when he put down new post-hardcore I was like, "well no FoT". Namely because of the vocals are more in line with that new Post Hardcore crowd.

    • @liamburke66
      @liamburke66 5 років тому +13

      this is late but TFOT has some of my favorite guitar work ever. I’ve got no idea how they play those songs live.

    • @Dropeeer
      @Dropeeer 5 років тому +4

      have you ever seen them play with CHON? they gooood

    • @liamburke66
      @liamburke66 5 років тому

      yeah,they’re wild. i’ve got no idea how erak does it

    • @Chicagosmisfit
      @Chicagosmisfit 5 років тому +6

      Just got to hang out with Thomas Erak the other day. I watched him practice his Solo stuff at my Friends house. Cool guy

  • @ghoulish6125
    @ghoulish6125 6 років тому +124

    Leaves Turn Inside You is never talked about and it makes me sad. Top 25 albums of mine, easily.

    • @o.binwheelie9733
      @o.binwheelie9733 6 років тому +9

      Really? I see it talked about a lot.

    • @ghoulish6125
      @ghoulish6125 6 років тому +7

      Well that's just like, your opinion man

    • @o.binwheelie9733
      @o.binwheelie9733 6 років тому +13

      Ghoulish Lol. if you visit the albums RYM page you'll see it featured on loads of favourite albums lists just so ya know

    • @ghoulish6125
      @ghoulish6125 6 років тому +4

      I mean, if you search specifically for album discussions on a particular record, of course you'll come across them. RYM is a pretty decent place, not denying you that, but I just meant discussion if this album in the wild, so to speak. Plebbit never speaks on it, it's rare on /mu/, so on.

    • @jomthegreat1412
      @jomthegreat1412 6 років тому +10

      It's one of the most talked about post-hardcore albums on /mu/, same with >implying and PMC, what are you talkin about

  • @scottmactavish9716
    @scottmactavish9716 3 роки тому +12

    At the Drive In, Relationship stayed in my CD player for 2 years straight!

  • @jdgonzo1982
    @jdgonzo1982 3 роки тому +12

    Glassjaw were my first post-hardcore love...also, one of my favourites and something i always have to recommend, is Hopesfall's "The Satellite Years"...honestly one of the most impactful albums to me personally...huge guitar sounds, amazing drumming and euphoric/screaming vocals...every track will lift you into a different place...please listen at least once if you haven't before!!
    EDIT: Thanks for the Unwound mention...new to me...now listening to "Leaves Turn Inside You"...what an intro!!

  • @wisp.
    @wisp. 6 років тому +20

    I think La Dispute does definitely deserve some spotlight but I do appreciate you mentioning them and Touché Amore toward the end of the video. Both bands have at least a couple modern classics under their belts in my opinion.
    Also I have a soft spot in my heart for Selfish Machines by Pierce the Veil but I can totally see why people wouldn’t like them, that’s the album in their discography I would defend because I think there’s a lot of interesting things going on in that record.
    Big fan of Brand New and Pianos Become The Teeth aswell.

  • @gravidadealarmante9899
    @gravidadealarmante9899 6 років тому +7

    I'm so glad you picked Leaves turn inside you! That's one of the best albums ever made.

  • @evanphillips2126
    @evanphillips2126 6 років тому +23

    I've gotta shout out Mclusky Do Dallas as another Post-Hardcore classic that I've only just discovered, great video as always Oliver, that Fugazi record is going on my list

  • @46thandBliss
    @46thandBliss 6 років тому +12

    Thursday’s War All the Time is what got me started.

  • @8bitDude0
    @8bitDude0 6 років тому +9

    Holy fuck. I love you for including Unwound. They're great and not enough people talk about them.

  • @tshai
    @tshai 6 років тому +29

    Although Helmet isn't 100% Post-hardcore, I really like the Post-hardcore elements present in their music. Especially 'Meantime' and the first half of 'Betty'. It would be nice if I could find something like that.

    • @ShonnDaylee
      @ShonnDaylee 3 роки тому +2

      Helmet tends to fall under the broad category of "Alt-Metal", although I agree they have some limited Post-Hardcore elements for sure.

    • @wombatmats
      @wombatmats 3 роки тому

      Call it a guilty pleasure, but I really like Aftertaste, too.

    • @BrandonJFlores
      @BrandonJFlores 3 роки тому +2

      @@wombatmats it's definitely not a guilty pleasure to me. Aftertaste is just as good as Meantime or Betty (imo) and is the album that got me into Helmet. It's also in my top 3 favorite albums of all time. If you want pure hard rock then you may not have to look any further than Aftertaste. I think it could've been just as iconic as Meantime or Betty but due to their record label at the time providing less advertisement for Aftertaste it wasn’t perceived as good.

    • @wombatmats
      @wombatmats 3 роки тому +1

      @@BrandonJFlores The guitar solo in Driving Nowhere is one of my all-time favorites and was a huge awakening for me when I was 15.

    • @apocalypsepow
      @apocalypsepow 2 роки тому

      I was going to say helmet it one of the best post hardcore bands

  • @boafewahserf3858
    @boafewahserf3858 5 років тому +40

    Slint - Spiderland
    Drive Like Jehu - Yank Crime
    Unwound - Fake Train (feel like that's the more quintessential "post-hardcore" as opposed to Leaves Turn Inside You, which isn't very hardcore-ish)

    • @pinkraven4402
      @pinkraven4402 4 роки тому +6

      Spiderland isn't fully post-hardcore, I mean, I myself have it on my post-hardcore playlist but it's generally hard to classify. It's kinda math rock, kinda post-hardcore, kinda rock, it's pretty much it's own thing.

    • @akulahirpada1993
      @akulahirpada1993 4 роки тому +6

      For Unwound I would go with New Plastic Ideas. To me NPI is where they really perfected their early sound of "melancholic aggressiveness" if that makes any sense.

    • @pinkraven4402
      @pinkraven4402 3 роки тому +1

      @MemesAreDreams Yup, that's what I meant but I made a typo haha

    • @pinkraven4402
      @pinkraven4402 3 роки тому

      Also, check out Bleach03 "Kibaku-Zai". AMAAAZING!

    • @ultimadum7785
      @ultimadum7785 3 роки тому +1

      @@pinkraven4402 spiderland is actually pretty much 100% 4/4 the whole way through so I wouldn't call it math rock per se.

  • @youhavetogoback8449
    @youhavetogoback8449 Рік тому +5

    Here are some underrated one's if you're really deep into post hardcore.
    Frodus - And We Washed Our Weapons in the Sea
    Q and Not U - No Kill No Beep Beep
    Juno - This is the Way it Goes and Goes
    Monochrome - Laser
    Alexisonfire - Self Titled
    Lync - These are not Fall Colors

    • @ingomichiels3121
      @ingomichiels3121 6 місяців тому

      and we washed our weapons in the sea.....brillant record

  • @Dinocore666
    @Dinocore666 6 років тому +1

    Yesss!! So happy you mentioned The Fall Of Troy!! I couldn't agree more that their DIY aesthetic is part of their charm!

  • @ace-rog
    @ace-rog 6 років тому +21

    I'm not sure if some of these count as post-hardcore because of influences in math/indie/etc. but Wildlife by La Dispute, Emergency & I by Dismemberment Plan, Different Damage by Q And Not You, and Read Music/Speak Spanish by Desaparecidos are all staples for me

    • @makotoisthebestprotag1870
      @makotoisthebestprotag1870 6 років тому

      La Dispute and The Dismemberment Plan are definitely good picks. I've heard about Q and not U and I'm not familiar with Desaparecidos.

    • @coffdrop77
      @coffdrop77 6 років тому +3

      I like No Kill No Beep Beep better, but that's just me.

  • @calebheaphy6050
    @calebheaphy6050 6 років тому

    Been waiting so long for these list, 3 out of the 5 album are in my top records list and i’ve just checked out quicksand and have just fell in love. Good sr, i approve this listing.

  • @hx0ad5
    @hx0ad5 5 років тому

    something smugly satisfying about watching this to find that all 5 albums are ones i already listen to and adore. really well made video too

  • @mrt77wv
    @mrt77wv 5 років тому +9

    Great list. Quicksand was so under appreciated.
    I'd also highly recommend Jawbox's final two albums.

  • @frenchieprtrail3013
    @frenchieprtrail3013 6 років тому +11

    Oof very hard to pick just 5. I personally feel that Refused - Shape of Punk to Come is just TOO important not to include on this list, it broke so many boundaries for the genre and still remains one of the most ambitious albums of its kind. I really don't think it's aged either!
    More Essential Post Hardcore Albums:
    Drive Like Jehu - Yank Crime
    Shellac - At Action Park
    Thrice - The Illusion of Safety
    Brand New - Deja Entendu
    Orchid - Chaos Is Me

    • @pinkraven4402
      @pinkraven4402 4 роки тому +1

      Would you really recommend The Shape of to the people who've never heard of post-hardcore as one of the best albums to start the journey? :P

    • @Frenchiedog
      @Frenchiedog 4 роки тому +1

      @@pinkraven4402 yes absolutely. Totally essential and important to the genre. Should be within the first 5 albums you hear of the genre absolutely.

    • @user-vs4rv6bi6p
      @user-vs4rv6bi6p Місяць тому

      @@Frenchiedog It is really just a hardcore punk album. The title "Shape Of Punk To Come" is a jazz reference. It isn't "Post-Hardcore" at all. Sure, there are those samples and whatever, but it is so aggressive. It is definitely PUNK.

  • @AllMediaReviewsPodcast
    @AllMediaReviewsPodcast 6 років тому +4

    I'm going to have to checkout that Unwound album, thanks Oliver.

  • @mouldyseagull887
    @mouldyseagull887 6 років тому +81

    5 albums to get you into Neo-Psychedelia?

    • @jamebonez
      @jamebonez 5 років тому +24

      1. The Flaming Lips - The Soft Bulletin
      2. Animal Collective - Merriweather Post Pavilion
      3. Mercury Rev - Yerself Is Steam
      4. Tame Impala - Lonerism
      5. Deerhunter - Halycon Digest

    • @ISuckOffCops
      @ISuckOffCops 5 років тому

      jamebonez I agree with this

    • @luketuke02
      @luketuke02 5 років тому +1

      King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard

    • @jayt7178
      @jayt7178 5 років тому +1

      @@luketuke02 I wouldn't even call them neo-psych. I mean technically you could, if you use the term literally. But neo-psych is usually psych influenced but pulls from folkier or electronic sides of the spectrum. They do both of those things. I wouldn't disagree that you could label them as such. But they're more straight up psychedelic rock in a lot of ways.

    • @slateman118
      @slateman118 3 роки тому +4

      Fishmans

  • @captainmofongo584
    @captainmofongo584 3 роки тому +3

    The first Post Hardcore show I ever went to was in the Fall of 1994. Helmet played at a local venue and Quicksand and Orange 9mm opened for them. Orange 9mm opened the show with a ton of energy as the 1st track they played was "Driver". Chaka Malik was all over the place during that set. Quicksand completely blew me away. It was the 1st time I had attended a show where the opener was far more impressive than the lead act, and Helmet's set was by no means boring, they were great as well.
    If I were to recommend 1 Post Hardcore album that doesn't get mentioned but is amazing it would be the Post Hardcore super group Handsome (1997) - self titled album
    It is:
    Jerry Chatelain who was in Jets to Brazil (Vocals)
    Tom Capone of Quicksand (guitar)
    Peter Mengede of Helmet (guitar)
    Eddie Nappi (bassist)
    Pete Hines of the Cro-Mags (Drums)
    If you are a fan of the genre of Post Hard I can't recommend this album enough as it is a complete masterpiece. It is too bad the band broke up a year later and were not able to make more music together.

  • @mattchew420
    @mattchew420 6 років тому +24

    I appreciate this list so much.

  • @MichaelJimenez416
    @MichaelJimenez416 6 років тому +12

    Yayyyyy I love this series. Love me some Fugazi. Would you ever do one of these for some type of Folk?

  • @dylanmcmahon4902
    @dylanmcmahon4902 6 років тому +8

    This is a great list. Relationship of Command is a personal favorite of mine. One record I've always loved but found underappreciated was Lyrburnum by Moss Icon. Fantastic post-hardcore with some early emo. Very wordy and unhinged. Love the videos as always!

  • @joshdot9244
    @joshdot9244 6 років тому +32

    Have you heard of the dismemberment plan? I really like their stuff.

    • @joshdot9244
      @joshdot9244 6 років тому +2

      Agreed. But due to it being a classic, I end up listening to the other records by them more often.

    • @lessthanpinochet
      @lessthanpinochet 5 років тому +3

      Change is of my favorite albums ever. Super underrated band.

  • @ip3948
    @ip3948 3 роки тому +5

    Great list, here's mine:
    Water and Solutions by Far
    Domestica by Cursive
    Ideas Above Our Station by Hundred Reasons
    Relationship of Command by ATD-i
    In/Casino/Out by ATD-i

  • @gabrielst-amant5439
    @gabrielst-amant5439 5 років тому +5

    Man thanks for including Unwound in your list, very cool vid btw

  • @enswert
    @enswert 6 років тому

    Oliver, thank you. I appreciate you deeply and can't wait to check these albums out

  • @Andrew-zb8fn
    @Andrew-zb8fn 6 років тому +9

    Post hardcore is my favorite genre im really glad you made this lost to get more people into it

  • @loudbill
    @loudbill 6 років тому

    Dude this list is awesome!! Slip by Quicksand is amazing, i never see it being talked about enough

  • @nedkuczmynda3782
    @nedkuczmynda3782 5 років тому +2

    I admire you for choosing albums that YOU love, its passion like that that is missing from music criticism. Stage Four by Touché Amore is a friggin masterpiece though

  • @viral0998hj
    @viral0998hj 5 років тому +10

    Here are more
    Ling Tosite Sigure - Inspiration Is Dead
    Lync - These Are Not Fall Colors
    Off Minor - The Heat Death Of The Universe
    Alexisonfire - Alexisonfire

    • @yusa4467
      @yusa4467 2 роки тому

      yeee nicee... inspiration is dead is so underrated

    • @youhavetogoback8449
      @youhavetogoback8449 Рік тому

      Really good taste, love it

  • @p.phillips7036
    @p.phillips7036 6 років тому

    Great list. Thank you for including Doppelgänger! This album, much like Relationship of Command, are pretty ageless. Fire from start to finish with so much technical skill...what’s not to like.
    These two albums singlehandedly changed my musical taste when I discovered them.

  • @glynthomas4833
    @glynthomas4833 3 роки тому

    Love the name drop for Oceansize. Their first 3 albums are incredible with Frames being a masterpiece. I was gutted when they split although I struggled with self preserved..
    really enjoyed the video as well

  • @readymade83
    @readymade83 3 роки тому +1

    Great list and here are some of my favorites:
    Nation of Ulysses - plays pretty for baby
    Fugazi - steady diet of nothing
    Dismemberment Plan - Emergency & I
    Refused - shape of punk to come
    At the Drive In - relationship of command

  • @mrpinguimninja
    @mrpinguimninja 6 років тому

    Was expecting to see Rites of Spring and La Dispute on the list, but also can't argue with any of your choices, Oliver. Good to see you back!

  • @HEELDAVE4LIFE
    @HEELDAVE4LIFE 5 років тому +14

    Dance Gavin Dance shouldn’t be put in the same circle as Pierce The Veil ever! They’re definitely post-hardcore fused with other genres. First 2 albums stick to the roots of Post Hardcore but later on their newer albums they become experimental, definitely still post hardcore

    • @Skramzgangit
      @Skramzgangit 3 роки тому +4

      Yeah Dance Gavin Dance is a mixture of modern post hardcore and math rock. They're pretty good ngl

    • @eric_stewart
      @eric_stewart 3 роки тому

      facts

    • @oropendola01
      @oropendola01 3 роки тому

      Pierce the Veil, Sleeping With Sirens, etc. aren't even post-hardcore to begin with

    • @Rob_Cary
      @Rob_Cary 3 роки тому

      The last 3 DGD albums have propelled them to legendary status. I was about to give up on em too. Hated the Kurt Travis era and the first couple Tilian albums were meh then somethin happened on Mothership. Better production, gruffer less thin sounding clean vocals, ditching depressing emo vibes for a more fun and funky approach...whatever it was, the last 3 DGD albums have been unlike anything else in their career. They are so damn good now. I got their latest album on vinyl.

    • @cryptictriscuit207
      @cryptictriscuit207 Рік тому

      @@oropendola01 they’re emo pop / post hardcore / hard rock. It’s all fusion bands lol

  • @nayfehn89
    @nayfehn89 3 роки тому +2

    Bit late to the conversation but here's my list;
    Alexisonfire - watch out
    These arms are snakes - Easter
    Refused - tsoptc
    At the drive in - relationship
    Circa survive - juturna

    • @instantgrat1881
      @instantgrat1881 3 роки тому +1

      Also got recommended this video today. I've been listening to watch out on repeat this past month, Dallas is so talented and the contrast between him and the unclean vocalist (can't remember his name) is just so good especially off their first couple albums

    • @yusa4467
      @yusa4467 2 роки тому +1

      nice list...

    • @youhavetogoback8449
      @youhavetogoback8449 Рік тому

      I think Alexisonfire debut is better than watch out. It's so underrated and it has Pulmonary Archery.

    • @nayfehn89
      @nayfehn89 Рік тому

      @@youhavetogoback8449 I just prefer how much more polished watch out is production-wise than the self titled, will admit though, water wings, and pulmonary archery are still fantastic tunes

  • @khalidsayeed134
    @khalidsayeed134 6 років тому +11

    I love Relationship of Command, but In/Casino/Out just scratches that itch for me. Perfect record

  • @TY_2020
    @TY_2020 6 років тому +4

    Leaves Turn Inside You is definitely in my top 10 favorite albums of all time.

  • @c.o.n.o.n
    @c.o.n.o.n 6 років тому +13

    Double Nickles on the Dime by the Minutemen would've been a cool inclusion

    • @tchoupitoulos
      @tchoupitoulos 3 роки тому

      I called Three Way Tie (For Last) because muh preference, but any Minutemen reference is just fine with me.

  • @ericmurphy750
    @ericmurphy750 5 років тому +2

    Love this genre/list. Very great pics (though I vehemently disagree with you about Worship and Tribute not aging well!!)
    Keep up the great work. Look forward to more vids.

  • @WaylonYT
    @WaylonYT 5 місяців тому

    I still remember I started listening to ATDI last year and it completely changed my perception in terms of music. But, the fact you mentioned Fall Of Troy and Doppelganger is awesome. I still remember FCPREMIX was a buyable track on Guitar Hero 3 and the was the first time I was exposed to that Post-hardcore/Mathcore sound. Played a big role for me in my early childhood and my love for music. Great Video!!!

  • @ebeaver15
    @ebeaver15 6 років тому +1

    Yes thank you for including Leaves Turn Inside You

  • @Oceanic83
    @Oceanic83 6 років тому +4

    Leaves turn inside you, relationship of command, I was lucky to be in my teens at that time

  • @ThatOneGuy7550
    @ThatOneGuy7550 5 років тому +14

    Unwound is so awesome

  • @lessthanpinochet
    @lessthanpinochet 5 років тому +4

    I own every album on this list. Great video. Here's some albums that are essential for the genre: Yank Crime by Drive Like Jehu
    Manic Compression by Quicksand
    Plays Pretty for Baby by Nation of Ulysses
    For Your Special Sweetheart by Jawbox

  • @orchidmalevolence9726
    @orchidmalevolence9726 3 роки тому +1

    My list:
    Saosin - *Translating The Name*
    Escape the Fate - *Dying Is Your Latest Fashion*
    The Red Jumpsuit Apparatus - *Don't You Fake It*
    From First to Last - *Dear Diary, My Teen Angst has a Bodycount*
    Silverstein - *A Shipwreck in a Sand*

  • @oogaftw
    @oogaftw 4 роки тому

    I was literally writing a comment about Capp'n Jazz when you name dropped them.
    Instant subscription.

  • @caiojulioary
    @caiojulioary 6 років тому

    I'm hearing red medicine for the first time and this is freakin incredible, thank you

  • @Silencex84
    @Silencex84 6 років тому +24

    I personally think Dance Gavin Dance is one of the best in the modern post hardcore scene. Great musicians, fantastic vocalists, and a strong consistent discography.
    8 Albums in, 3 lead vocalist changes, and they are STILL killing it.

    • @MyoticTesseract
      @MyoticTesseract 6 років тому +6

      That band is the epitome of “Never a dull moment”.

    • @Silencex84
      @Silencex84 6 років тому +1

      Myotic Tesseract DEADASS

    • @RussianBot69420
      @RussianBot69420 6 років тому +2

      They're going very pop, but I loved DTBM2 and everything before.

    • @Silencex84
      @Silencex84 6 років тому +1

      Super Soviet Pop influenced yes, but not exactly pop or anywhere near pop. Their new album actually does have chaotic tracks like The Rattler for example and has been incorporating some breakdown riffs.

    • @ldekker97
      @ldekker97 6 років тому +1

      For some reason I could never quite get into DGD, but there is a band called Hail The Sun that sounds similar in some ways that I really enjoy.

  • @crackedrod6778
    @crackedrod6778 6 років тому +2

    Ah neat, I don't know that much about post-hardcore apart from Fugazi and Unwound, big fan of both though. Good discussion starter and thanks for the recs!
    Also, if any of you want a more hard-hitting, aggressive Unwound album, definitely check out Fake Train. It's one of my favourite records and quite different from Leaves Turn Inside You. Incredible album to absolutely lose your shit to, with simple, effective lyrics and roaring guitars. The way the album cuts off at the end always leaves me in awe. It's a bit derivative of earlier bands at times, I suppose, but definitely check it out if you like your albums to have LOUD parts.

  • @RandomGuy-ii6gg
    @RandomGuy-ii6gg 6 років тому +39

    I reccomend touche amore - stage four if you would like some contemperary post hardcore. Real good record imo.

    • @chaseurias8874
      @chaseurias8874 6 років тому +3

      Random Guy123 one of the most emotional albums I've ever heard, if you're interested my buddy and I did a podcast talking about that album as his dad is currently battling stage four lung cancer

    • @RandomGuy-ii6gg
      @RandomGuy-ii6gg 6 років тому

      Chase Urias nice.

    • @chaseurias8874
      @chaseurias8874 6 років тому +1

      Random Guy123 m.soundcloud.com/user-35884301/1-stage-four-by-touche-amore

    • @makotoisthebestprotag1870
      @makotoisthebestprotag1870 6 років тому

      OMG I love Touche Amore

    • @isaiahdickey6760
      @isaiahdickey6760 6 років тому

      mad promo skillz

  • @nicklose3631
    @nicklose3631 3 роки тому +1

    I was one of those people who had trouble with the production on the first couple Fall Of Troy records but that was only because my initial exposure to them was someone playing me Phantom On The Horizon all the way through. Once I wore out Phantom, I went back and definitely got way into the first couple releases as well. I haven't played those in quite some time... gonna dig em out!

  • @makotoisthebestprotag1870
    @makotoisthebestprotag1870 6 років тому +1

    About time!! I was kind of thinking The Blood Brothers would be a good pick, but then I realized you'd have to be super into aggressive music to get into them. One of the most inaccessible bands ever but still great!

  • @dannygibson2597
    @dannygibson2597 Рік тому +2

    Saosin- Translating the Name is the best post hardcore project ever and arguably the most influential of it's time

    • @xildu4830
      @xildu4830 6 місяців тому

      No glassjaws eyewtkas is

  • @owenphillips6421
    @owenphillips6421 6 років тому +23

    Glassjaw, too!

    • @owenphillips6421
      @owenphillips6421 6 років тому +3

      Well, that's what I get for not watching the video...

    • @xxcrysad3000xx
      @xxcrysad3000xx 5 років тому +5

      I think they've held up well but I guess I'm a tad biased as they are my favorite band from that whole scene in the early 2000's.

    • @Strizz484
      @Strizz484 4 роки тому +2

      Yeah, not a fan of his take on them lol. W&T is a classic, straight up.

  • @YuxinZhou13
    @YuxinZhou13 6 років тому +1

    Great list! Keep getting amazed by deep cuts. Btw can you do any cut about Japanese band?

  • @hldr4345
    @hldr4345 5 років тому +1

    This guide is fire! Love the fact that you cited The Fall of Troy's Doppelganger, I love that fucking record, mainly the first track.
    Also, could you do a 5 albums guide to glitch? I loved Chiastic Slides, but couldn't find another record like it.

  • @chapter_black3234
    @chapter_black3234 6 років тому +2

    When I first discovered "Post-Hardcore" it was referring to just any hardcore band of the 1990's like Rollins Band and Helmet. It wasn't really referring to bands that were considered pop punk or screamo at the time. That later on began to be the case, perhaps in part for marketing reasons. Like the nu metal bands, many of those artists tried to escape from the emo label and seem to have successfully done so, as a description of screamo seems to have in large part been wiped from wikipedia of any valuable solid description of the divide between it and what post-hardcore has become. While I am not here to state that what post-hardcore was in the beginning is what it is commonly regarded as today, the influence of post-hardcore did play some role in developing it into what it became...in large part against its wishes. Sort of how grunge played a role in influencing what would become post-grunge.
    PS: Don't expect that if you go to a Fall of Troy show that they will play FCPREMIX. They probably won't and tell you to go fuck yourself if you yell it out like an idiot yelling "Free Bird!"

  • @SoumyadityaDasguptarondg95
    @SoumyadityaDasguptarondg95 5 років тому

    I am hooked to Fugazi's Repeater since I first heard it back in 2013. Since then "Two Beats Off" and "Repeater" have found a permanent place on my playlist.

  • @bentarpey8666
    @bentarpey8666 3 роки тому

    Good list!
    I'd vouch for Vheissu by Thrice. Great, great, GREAT album and near flawless. Definitely worth being mentioned alongside The shape of punk to come and Relationship of Command.

  • @user-fo3yt1jq6n
    @user-fo3yt1jq6n 6 років тому

    Exciting to see you uploading now, keep up the good work Oliver. Maybe you can work on a list for Art Punk or Abstract Hip Hop, two genres I dig. Thanks

  • @patrickdolph3088
    @patrickdolph3088 6 років тому +21

    I would've included The Shape Of Punk To Come, otherwise great list!

    • @wespenn6139
      @wespenn6139 4 роки тому +3

      Amazing record too. Love refused.

    • @pinkraven4402
      @pinkraven4402 4 роки тому +4

      Well, remember that this album is more agressive and experimental, not necessary for beginners I think

    • @tpags7398
      @tpags7398 3 роки тому +3

      Jan Lewandowski it’s definitely easier to get into than the unwound record he chose

    • @michaelgraham9774
      @michaelgraham9774 3 роки тому

      @@pinkraven4402 I feel like it's more accessible than Red Medicine.

  • @musicmanLPB
    @musicmanLPB 6 років тому +5

    Thrice should also be mentioned, they have made many great albums throughout their career. "The Illusion of Safety," "The Artist in the Ambulance," "Major/Minor," and their most recent one "To Be Everywhere Is to Be Nowhere."

    • @thirdmonkeyent_llc
      @thirdmonkeyent_llc Рік тому

      I just said that. Artist in the Ambulance paved the way for post-hardcore bands. I just saw their 20th anniversary tour show in Orlando three days ago. It was UNREAL.

  • @chris.hartliss
    @chris.hartliss 6 років тому

    Even though I'm a huge fan of the genre already, I love seeing your reccomendations

  • @Kekktye
    @Kekktye 8 місяців тому +1

    Got into all of these through contemporary post-hardcore. I think the influences are more evident than you think, even if different. Especially when talking about The Fall of Troy.

  • @frankofilm
    @frankofilm 6 років тому

    Fantastic list; would love to see a "5 albums to get you into Slowcore" video

  • @existentbeing9678
    @existentbeing9678 5 років тому +2

    The Fall of Troy’s Doppelgänger is an absolute standout album from me, haven’t heard anything that comes close to its unique brand of brutality yet. The production was never really an question for me but I do have that in mind when it comes to their ST.

  • @Woodchuck799
    @Woodchuck799 6 років тому +3

    Oliver you a real g and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise ya wee gem

  • @JustNoobie34
    @JustNoobie34 6 років тому

    Great list!! Would have been great to see something like nomeansno's wrong, but this is a great intro list

  • @RIGGOTS
    @RIGGOTS 3 роки тому +3

    You fucking off all those modern versions of PH earned you a new sub straight away!

  • @VCCassidy
    @VCCassidy 5 років тому +3

    My top 5 -
    Fugazi - Repeater
    Quicksand - Slip
    Slint - Spiderland
    Drive Like Jehu - s/t
    Jawbox - For Your Own Special Sweetheart
    Honorable mentions:
    Nation of Ulysses - 13 point Program to Destroy America
    Unwound - The Future of What
    Frodus - And WeWashed Our Weapons in the Sea
    Karp - Suplex
    Helmet - Meantime
    Texas is the Reason - Do You Know Who You Are?

    • @sarahmartin9107
      @sarahmartin9107 5 років тому

      Big love for TITR, though emo for me, as offshoot of Sensefield, and Helmet hardcore metal, slightly diff. sub genre. Slint huge love , but post rock for me.

    • @micahflips1928
      @micahflips1928 Рік тому

      Yes! Texas is the Reason is soooo good and under-appreciated!

  • @ShonnDaylee
    @ShonnDaylee 3 роки тому +2

    Thursday has always been one of my favs.

  • @MrBroDash
    @MrBroDash 6 років тому

    Great vid! Definately subscribing after this

  • @pawelzawislak1671
    @pawelzawislak1671 3 роки тому +1

    Good introduction to post-hardcore, especially as the second wave. For the first wave I'd definitely put Rites Of Spring, Embrace, Fugazi and Husker Du. Maybe also Minutemen, though not sure if they fit the bill accurately.
    Personally I've never been too fond of this sub-genre, though I dig Fugazi big time. As for favorite Fugazi album, I'm torn as it changes with years. It used to be "13 Songs", then "Repeater" for a long time, and recently it would be a toss between "Steady Diet of Nothing" or "In On The Kill Taker". I had privilage to see them live back in 2001 or 2002. Epic experience.
    I've been part of the hardcore/punk scene since '92, but I have to admit I had never heard of no.4 on your list.

  • @usernamedenied1881
    @usernamedenied1881 6 років тому

    Just checked out Quicksand, sounds great!!

  • @boredpassenger
    @boredpassenger 6 років тому +1

    Great video! Refused and Glassjaw were left out, but fantastic list either ways. A little disappointing, though, when you mentioned Dance Gavin Dance along with bands like Pierce the Veil and all that stuff because they’re nothing like it.

  • @the_hwyman
    @the_hwyman 3 роки тому +1

    I went to university in DC during the early to mid-90s. A lot of the bands in that scene always referred to themselves as post-punk and fully embraced the DIY ethos with minor local record labels like Simple Machines and Teenbeat and the bands that founded those labels (Tsunami and Unrest respectively) leading the way.

  • @nathanchildress5596
    @nathanchildress5596 3 роки тому

    Great insight, some gems I love, some I haven’t heard yet. If you like Fall of Troy check out Hail the Sun, a really cool progressive post hardcore band

  • @Lucols4
    @Lucols4 6 років тому

    Summer's freezing here
    Please come back next year

  • @winnars
    @winnars 3 роки тому

    happy to see quicksand mentioned

  • @jshizzay
    @jshizzay 3 роки тому +1

    You've got a pretty solid list. I was glad to see Unwound on there.
    Some of my faves in the underrated post-hardcore:
    NoMeansNo - Wrong (1989)
    Slint - Spiderland (1991)
    Craw - Lost Nation Road (1994)
    Dazzling Killmen - Face of Collapse (1994)
    Drive Like Jehu - Yank Crime (1994)
    Hum - You'd Prefer an Astronaut (1996)

  • @GrooveCityAcademy
    @GrooveCityAcademy 6 років тому +1

    would have loved to hear you gush about touche amore. truly one of the greatest in the current scene

  • @blakegollehon9341
    @blakegollehon9341 6 років тому

    Great video! You should do goth rock, even if it overlaps a little with the new wave genre at times

  • @paulham9018
    @paulham9018 4 роки тому

    Quicksand's Slip is an amazing album. Just saw them live at Warped 25th Anniversary and they still got it.