Big Black - Atomizer The Jesus Lizard - Goat Slint - Spiderland Shellac - At Action Park Minutemen - Three Way Tie (For Last) Bonus: Green River - Rehab Doll
My personal favorites: NoMeansNo - Wrong Fugazi - The Argument Hüsker Dü - Zen Arcade Gospel - The Moon Is A Dead World Thrice - Vheissu Orchid - Dance Tonight! Revolution Tomorrow! ....also mentioned Leaves Turn Inside You and Relationship Of Command from the video.
Mines are: Rites of Spring - s/t Fugazi - Repeater Drive Like Jehu - Yank Crime At The Drive In - Relationship of Command Refused - Shape of Punk to Come
@@usualdosage7287 I disagree. The list from the video is "albums to GET YOU INTO post-hardcore", not "best albums". Albums like "Yank Crime" are definitely not for beginners unless you already like dissonant music. It's a very abrasive, dissonant album. That's its beauty ofc, but not necessary best album to begin post-hardcore journey. But as I said, depend on where you came from. Also "The Shape..." is kinda more Avantgarde
These are great albums! Personally, I prefer the S/T Drive Like Jehu album... Thrasher magazine coined the term emo-core to describe Rites of Spring and Embrace to which Ian M responded "Isn't hardcore emotional enough already???" And I mention this only because I don't think there is anything "post" about it... These are all still basically hardcore albums or emo or punk albums... Stop calling this "Post-hardcore".
I saw them love before they blew up. All my friends were so blown away to listen to them for the first time live. My friends actually play with some of the members or at least they did before covid
Big Black - entire catalog Scratch Acid - entire catalog Fugazi - entire catalog (but In On The Kill Taker is my favorite) Rites Of Spring - s/t Hüsker Dü - Zen Arcade
In the 1980s there were two different TV shows called Voltron which were almost the same but different... That is what Big Black and Husker Du is to post-hardcore. It is a completely different genre. Personally, I don't think that anything that still sounds that punk is post-hardcore.
Was NOT expecting The Fall of Troy! Not sure why I wasn't, just all the other bands seemed so traditionally classic. Doppelganger is one of my absolute favorite albums of all time. Literally EVERY song on here is amazing. Never ever is there a dull moment on here. Nice list.
Totally agree, when he put down new post-hardcore I was like, "well no FoT". Namely because of the vocals are more in line with that new Post Hardcore crowd.
Glassjaw were my first post-hardcore love...also, one of my favourites and something i always have to recommend, is Hopesfall's "The Satellite Years"...honestly one of the most impactful albums to me personally...huge guitar sounds, amazing drumming and euphoric/screaming vocals...every track will lift you into a different place...please listen at least once if you haven't before!! EDIT: Thanks for the Unwound mention...new to me...now listening to "Leaves Turn Inside You"...what an intro!!
I think La Dispute does definitely deserve some spotlight but I do appreciate you mentioning them and Touché Amore toward the end of the video. Both bands have at least a couple modern classics under their belts in my opinion. Also I have a soft spot in my heart for Selfish Machines by Pierce the Veil but I can totally see why people wouldn’t like them, that’s the album in their discography I would defend because I think there’s a lot of interesting things going on in that record. Big fan of Brand New and Pianos Become The Teeth aswell.
I mean, if you search specifically for album discussions on a particular record, of course you'll come across them. RYM is a pretty decent place, not denying you that, but I just meant discussion if this album in the wild, so to speak. Plebbit never speaks on it, it's rare on /mu/, so on.
@@luketuke02 I wouldn't even call them neo-psych. I mean technically you could, if you use the term literally. But neo-psych is usually psych influenced but pulls from folkier or electronic sides of the spectrum. They do both of those things. I wouldn't disagree that you could label them as such. But they're more straight up psychedelic rock in a lot of ways.
I've gotta shout out Mclusky Do Dallas as another Post-Hardcore classic that I've only just discovered, great video as always Oliver, that Fugazi record is going on my list
Not necessarily midwest emo but just emo in general: Lobsterfight- Pink Black and Orange in the Corners Rites of Spring- Rites of Spring Weezer- Pinkerton American Football- American Football Sunny Day Real Estate- Diary
@@spoonmeanie5644 my chem but not mineral-the power of failing or sunny day real estate-diary. Those bands are at least closer to Midwest emo than mcr, just my two cents though.
I'm not sure if some of these count as post-hardcore because of influences in math/indie/etc. but Wildlife by La Dispute, Emergency & I by Dismemberment Plan, Different Damage by Q And Not You, and Read Music/Speak Spanish by Desaparecidos are all staples for me
Slint - Spiderland Drive Like Jehu - Yank Crime Unwound - Fake Train (feel like that's the more quintessential "post-hardcore" as opposed to Leaves Turn Inside You, which isn't very hardcore-ish)
Spiderland isn't fully post-hardcore, I mean, I myself have it on my post-hardcore playlist but it's generally hard to classify. It's kinda math rock, kinda post-hardcore, kinda rock, it's pretty much it's own thing.
For Unwound I would go with New Plastic Ideas. To me NPI is where they really perfected their early sound of "melancholic aggressiveness" if that makes any sense.
Here are some underrated one's if you're really deep into post hardcore. Frodus - And We Washed Our Weapons in the Sea Q and Not U - No Kill No Beep Beep Juno - This is the Way it Goes and Goes Monochrome - Laser Alexisonfire - Self Titled Lync - These are not Fall Colors
Although Helmet isn't 100% Post-hardcore, I really like the Post-hardcore elements present in their music. Especially 'Meantime' and the first half of 'Betty'. It would be nice if I could find something like that.
@@wombatmats it's definitely not a guilty pleasure to me. Aftertaste is just as good as Meantime or Betty (imo) and is the album that got me into Helmet. It's also in my top 3 favorite albums of all time. If you want pure hard rock then you may not have to look any further than Aftertaste. I think it could've been just as iconic as Meantime or Betty but due to their record label at the time providing less advertisement for Aftertaste it wasn’t perceived as good.
The first Post Hardcore show I ever went to was in the Fall of 1994. Helmet played at a local venue and Quicksand and Orange 9mm opened for them. Orange 9mm opened the show with a ton of energy as the 1st track they played was "Driver". Chaka Malik was all over the place during that set. Quicksand completely blew me away. It was the 1st time I had attended a show where the opener was far more impressive than the lead act, and Helmet's set was by no means boring, they were great as well. If I were to recommend 1 Post Hardcore album that doesn't get mentioned but is amazing it would be the Post Hardcore super group Handsome (1997) - self titled album It is: Jerry Chatelain who was in Jets to Brazil (Vocals) Tom Capone of Quicksand (guitar) Peter Mengede of Helmet (guitar) Eddie Nappi (bassist) Pete Hines of the Cro-Mags (Drums) If you are a fan of the genre of Post Hard I can't recommend this album enough as it is a complete masterpiece. It is too bad the band broke up a year later and were not able to make more music together.
Oof very hard to pick just 5. I personally feel that Refused - Shape of Punk to Come is just TOO important not to include on this list, it broke so many boundaries for the genre and still remains one of the most ambitious albums of its kind. I really don't think it's aged either! More Essential Post Hardcore Albums: Drive Like Jehu - Yank Crime Shellac - At Action Park Thrice - The Illusion of Safety Brand New - Deja Entendu Orchid - Chaos Is Me
@@Frenchiedog It is really just a hardcore punk album. The title "Shape Of Punk To Come" is a jazz reference. It isn't "Post-Hardcore" at all. Sure, there are those samples and whatever, but it is so aggressive. It is definitely PUNK.
Great list, here's mine: Water and Solutions by Far Domestica by Cursive Ideas Above Our Station by Hundred Reasons Relationship of Command by ATD-i In/Casino/Out by ATD-i
This is a great list. Relationship of Command is a personal favorite of mine. One record I've always loved but found underappreciated was Lyrburnum by Moss Icon. Fantastic post-hardcore with some early emo. Very wordy and unhinged. Love the videos as always!
Great list and here are some of my favorites: Nation of Ulysses - plays pretty for baby Fugazi - steady diet of nothing Dismemberment Plan - Emergency & I Refused - shape of punk to come At the Drive In - relationship of command
Random Guy123 one of the most emotional albums I've ever heard, if you're interested my buddy and I did a podcast talking about that album as his dad is currently battling stage four lung cancer
My list: Saosin - *Translating The Name* Escape the Fate - *Dying Is Your Latest Fashion* The Red Jumpsuit Apparatus - *Don't You Fake It* From First to Last - *Dear Diary, My Teen Angst has a Bodycount* Silverstein - *A Shipwreck in a Sand*
I admire you for choosing albums that YOU love, its passion like that that is missing from music criticism. Stage Four by Touché Amore is a friggin masterpiece though
Got into all of these through contemporary post-hardcore. I think the influences are more evident than you think, even if different. Especially when talking about The Fall of Troy.
Thrice should also be mentioned, they have made many great albums throughout their career. "The Illusion of Safety," "The Artist in the Ambulance," "Major/Minor," and their most recent one "To Be Everywhere Is to Be Nowhere."
I just said that. Artist in the Ambulance paved the way for post-hardcore bands. I just saw their 20th anniversary tour show in Orlando three days ago. It was UNREAL.
Here are more Ling Tosite Sigure - Inspiration Is Dead Lync - These Are Not Fall Colors Off Minor - The Heat Death Of The Universe Alexisonfire - Alexisonfire
Bit late to the conversation but here's my list; Alexisonfire - watch out These arms are snakes - Easter Refused - tsoptc At the drive in - relationship Circa survive - juturna
Also got recommended this video today. I've been listening to watch out on repeat this past month, Dallas is so talented and the contrast between him and the unclean vocalist (can't remember his name) is just so good especially off their first couple albums
@@youhavetogoback8449 I just prefer how much more polished watch out is production-wise than the self titled, will admit though, water wings, and pulmonary archery are still fantastic tunes
When I first discovered "Post-Hardcore" it was referring to just any hardcore band of the 1990's like Rollins Band and Helmet. It wasn't really referring to bands that were considered pop punk or screamo at the time. That later on began to be the case, perhaps in part for marketing reasons. Like the nu metal bands, many of those artists tried to escape from the emo label and seem to have successfully done so, as a description of screamo seems to have in large part been wiped from wikipedia of any valuable solid description of the divide between it and what post-hardcore has become. While I am not here to state that what post-hardcore was in the beginning is what it is commonly regarded as today, the influence of post-hardcore did play some role in developing it into what it became...in large part against its wishes. Sort of how grunge played a role in influencing what would become post-grunge. PS: Don't expect that if you go to a Fall of Troy show that they will play FCPREMIX. They probably won't and tell you to go fuck yourself if you yell it out like an idiot yelling "Free Bird!"
I own every album on this list. Great video. Here's some albums that are essential for the genre: Yank Crime by Drive Like Jehu Manic Compression by Quicksand Plays Pretty for Baby by Nation of Ulysses For Your Special Sweetheart by Jawbox
The Fall of Troy’s Doppelgänger is an absolute standout album from me, haven’t heard anything that comes close to its unique brand of brutality yet. The production was never really an question for me but I do have that in mind when it comes to their ST.
I was one of those people who had trouble with the production on the first couple Fall Of Troy records but that was only because my initial exposure to them was someone playing me Phantom On The Horizon all the way through. Once I wore out Phantom, I went back and definitely got way into the first couple releases as well. I haven't played those in quite some time... gonna dig em out!
Ah neat, I don't know that much about post-hardcore apart from Fugazi and Unwound, big fan of both though. Good discussion starter and thanks for the recs! Also, if any of you want a more hard-hitting, aggressive Unwound album, definitely check out Fake Train. It's one of my favourite records and quite different from Leaves Turn Inside You. Incredible album to absolutely lose your shit to, with simple, effective lyrics and roaring guitars. The way the album cuts off at the end always leaves me in awe. It's a bit derivative of earlier bands at times, I suppose, but definitely check it out if you like your albums to have LOUD parts.
I went to university in DC during the early to mid-90s. A lot of the bands in that scene always referred to themselves as post-punk and fully embraced the DIY ethos with minor local record labels like Simple Machines and Teenbeat and the bands that founded those labels (Tsunami and Unrest respectively) leading the way.
You've got a pretty solid list. I was glad to see Unwound on there. Some of my faves in the underrated post-hardcore: NoMeansNo - Wrong (1989) Slint - Spiderland (1991) Craw - Lost Nation Road (1994) Dazzling Killmen - Face of Collapse (1994) Drive Like Jehu - Yank Crime (1994) Hum - You'd Prefer an Astronaut (1996)
What an great list! Agree with basically everything here. I think it was the right decision to skip over the more recent Post-Hardcore music. However, I don't think it's fair of you to group in Dance Gavin Dance with bands like Peirce the Veil. While I see the comparison, the skill at which DGD goes about their style is unique and unmatched. Usually DGD's singles don't give a fair representation of what they bring to the table, because their label is trying to market them to the same people who are fans of pierce and asking. They are able to blend funky whimsical riffs and attitude, with the contrasting poppy vocals of Tillian, and the chaotic shouts of Mess. It's not really music you are supposed to take seriously all the time. Not only that, their music has been so influential it has created it's own sub-sub genre of music called "swancore" which are bands influenced by their music (Named after the guitarist of DGD, Will Swan.) I really suggest giving happiness and their self-titled death-star album a listen. There is some really great stuff in there. Their best tracks (imo) include Carl Barker, NASA, Privilously Poncheezied, Buffalo!, The Robot with Human Hair Pt. 4, and Eagle Vs Crows
Yeah DGD has always been their own thing. And far and away better then their peers. But since they came out of the Myspace era. They will always get pegged with bands like PTV and A Day to Remember. Though I'd actually say their first album, Downtown Battle Mountain, is their greatest work and most closely fits the bill of post-hardcore. Albeit still pretty unique with progressive rock and soul flairs.
Maybe they’re higher up than PtV, but they’re still kind of in that vein, especially vocally and lyrically. Way I see it, Pierce the Veil < DGD < Fall of Troy < Mars Volta/At the Drive In
My top 5 - Fugazi - Repeater Quicksand - Slip Slint - Spiderland Drive Like Jehu - s/t Jawbox - For Your Own Special Sweetheart Honorable mentions: Nation of Ulysses - 13 point Program to Destroy America Unwound - The Future of What Frodus - And WeWashed Our Weapons in the Sea Karp - Suplex Helmet - Meantime Texas is the Reason - Do You Know Who You Are?
Big love for TITR, though emo for me, as offshoot of Sensefield, and Helmet hardcore metal, slightly diff. sub genre. Slint huge love , but post rock for me.
Refused-Songs To Fan The Flames Of Discontent Hot Water Music-A Flight And A Crash Alkaline Trio- Maybe i'll Catch Fire Rise Against-The Unraveling Berri Txarrak-Ikasten
Been waiting so long for these list, 3 out of the 5 album are in my top records list and i’ve just checked out quicksand and have just fell in love. Good sr, i approve this listing.
About time!! I was kind of thinking The Blood Brothers would be a good pick, but then I realized you'd have to be super into aggressive music to get into them. One of the most inaccessible bands ever but still great!
Good introduction to post-hardcore, especially as the second wave. For the first wave I'd definitely put Rites Of Spring, Embrace, Fugazi and Husker Du. Maybe also Minutemen, though not sure if they fit the bill accurately. Personally I've never been too fond of this sub-genre, though I dig Fugazi big time. As for favorite Fugazi album, I'm torn as it changes with years. It used to be "13 Songs", then "Repeater" for a long time, and recently it would be a toss between "Steady Diet of Nothing" or "In On The Kill Taker". I had privilage to see them live back in 2001 or 2002. Epic experience. I've been part of the hardcore/punk scene since '92, but I have to admit I had never heard of no.4 on your list.
I still remember I started listening to ATDI last year and it completely changed my perception in terms of music. But, the fact you mentioned Fall Of Troy and Doppelganger is awesome. I still remember FCPREMIX was a buyable track on Guitar Hero 3 and the was the first time I was exposed to that Post-hardcore/Mathcore sound. Played a big role for me in my early childhood and my love for music. Great Video!!!
Dance Gavin Dance shouldn’t be put in the same circle as Pierce The Veil ever! They’re definitely post-hardcore fused with other genres. First 2 albums stick to the roots of Post Hardcore but later on their newer albums they become experimental, definitely still post hardcore
The last 3 DGD albums have propelled them to legendary status. I was about to give up on em too. Hated the Kurt Travis era and the first couple Tilian albums were meh then somethin happened on Mothership. Better production, gruffer less thin sounding clean vocals, ditching depressing emo vibes for a more fun and funky approach...whatever it was, the last 3 DGD albums have been unlike anything else in their career. They are so damn good now. I got their latest album on vinyl.
Thank U for mentioning Unwound (rest in POWER - Vern Rumsey) I would say the album “New Plastic Ideas” from 94’ should be on this list! I am biased because I’m 43 & from Washington State - I can tell U that seeing Unwound live in the 90’s, hit me like a train!
The fall of Troy definitely deserves a spot on this list. I was 14 or 15 when I heard it too and I saw them every time they came to my town. saw them start off playing for about eight people in a tiny apartment all the way up to bigger night clubs. The farewell tour when they broke up was one of the best shows I’ve ever seen.
Love the name drop for Oceansize. Their first 3 albums are incredible with Frames being a masterpiece. I was gutted when they split although I struggled with self preserved.. really enjoyed the video as well
I am hooked to Fugazi's Repeater since I first heard it back in 2013. Since then "Two Beats Off" and "Repeater" have found a permanent place on my playlist.
Great list. Thank you for including Doppelgänger! This album, much like Relationship of Command, are pretty ageless. Fire from start to finish with so much technical skill...what’s not to like. These two albums singlehandedly changed my musical taste when I discovered them.
Oliver, I love your enthusiasm and commitment to quality. In the case of Post-Hardcore, I do think that the ease of internet hyperlinks has obscured the meaning of the term. This list greatly misrepresents what it is! The defining characteristic of Post-Hardcore is that members must have previously participated in the hardcore scene and moved on to other types of music. Beyond that, it is an ambiguous genre, yet nothing aggressive enough to fit under the umbrellas of punk, hardcore, or metal should be called Post-Hardcore. In its truest sense, the term was used to differentiate “mellow Indie-Rock” or “experimental ambient Space-Rock” bands who came from the DIY HC community from others who did not, which is significant. To the rest of the world Quicksand were just a grungy-alternative band. Personally, I saw At The Drive in play in 2000 and I don’t think a single person in that audience would have called them a “post-hardcore” band.
i discovered at the drive in when i was 13 at the tail end of 2000 and, have never stopped listening to their albums. I never got to see them live since they broke up pretty much as soon as i found them and, i refuse to watch them now when they do random tours because its just not the same energy wise as it was back then its just mars volta covering adti now. but man 24 years later and they are still in my top 5 favorite bands.
Here's my personal favourite Post Hardcore Albums Shellac - At Action Park Drive Like Jehu - S/T Fugazi - Red Medicine Unwound - Fake Train Jawbox - For your own special sweetheart Honourable mentions Quicksand - Slip The Jesus Lizard - Goat Helmet - Meantime Slint - Spiderland Girls Against Boys - Cruise Yourself Idlewild - Hope Is Important McLusky - Do Dallas ...And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Dead - Madonna Cable - When Animal Attack Bob Tilton - Cresent Understand - Burning Bushes and Burning bridges Tar - Toast
La dispute is fucking great. Great vid. Doppleganger 4 life but Dance Gavin Dance is the the current band that grooves and keeps the hardcore alive imo
Personally I'm a huge sucker for anything Swancore and that's really the sound I prefer. Hail the Sun, Royal Coda, A Lot Like Birds have a really nice dark and complex sound to them that just hit something deep in my head. Hail the Sun's New Age Filth is the most approachable, I think, but I'm really partial to Wake. Both are top tier albums though.
Love this genre/list. Very great pics (though I vehemently disagree with you about Worship and Tribute not aging well!!) Keep up the great work. Look forward to more vids.
Alexisonfire - Watch Out Fear before - The always open mouth As Cities Burn - Son, I loved you at your Darkest People might not agree but thats just a few that come to mind, I love that Post-Hardcore covers so much variety. Sucks theres not as many bands doing it like that anymore, probably cause it doesnt make money. Would be cool if you could do a list of recent releases that you would consider this sort of interesting Post-Hardcore
Top 5 Emo 1. Sunny Day Real Estate - Diary 2. Christie Front Drive - Stereo 3. Mineral - The Power of Failing 4. The Promise Ring - Nothing Feels Good 5. Jimmy Eat World - Static Prevails
Tough tough choices for all. Mine: Refused :The Shape of Punk to Come (equally timeless, beg to differ, with... ) ATD-I: Relationship of Command Quicksand : Manic Compression (this over Slip always provokes, but there we go...) Fugazi : Red Medicine Moss Icon : Lyburnum... (so underrated) Only because they belong in other genres for me, to clarify, big love for : Cap'n Jazz - post rock Slint - post rock Helmet - metalcore Poison The Well - as above Orchid - Screamo Drive Like Jehu - just sorry I can't fit you on 😞 Yes, Glassjaw has aged badly, can't get into Rites of Spring, but don't tell the boys club, they'll kick me out... 😋
Big Black - Atomizer
The Jesus Lizard - Goat
Slint - Spiderland
Shellac - At Action Park
Minutemen - Three Way Tie (For Last)
Bonus: Green River - Rehab Doll
This, so much more this than his list
albini-core
@@conneither Drums by Roland..
i like this list
Rad list! To me, Slint & Minutemen albums could be the ‘stranded on a desert island’, top of the list.
Leaves Turn Inside You was so good it killed the post-hardcore genre
It could be said it killed rock music, but that's maybe kinda cliché
fuckk yesss!!
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Leaves Turn is sooo great.
@@djed7235 womp womp
Unwound is the best band of the nineties to me. Every album of theirs has been my favorite at one point
My personal favorites:
NoMeansNo - Wrong
Fugazi - The Argument
Hüsker Dü - Zen Arcade
Gospel - The Moon Is A Dead World
Thrice - Vheissu
Orchid - Dance Tonight! Revolution Tomorrow!
....also mentioned Leaves Turn Inside You and Relationship Of Command from the video.
Wrong is fucking awesome and definitely fits the eighties definition of post hardcore.
imo orchid are unappreciated as an influence on extreme music as a whole, not just post hardcore/skramz
Thrice pick is based
I love The Argument as my Fugazi's favourite.
idk if zen arcade fits post hardcore
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I MUST HAVE ROBBED THEM OF THEIR CAUSE
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Mines are:
Rites of Spring - s/t
Fugazi - Repeater
Drive Like Jehu - Yank Crime
At The Drive In - Relationship of Command
Refused - Shape of Punk to Come
@@usualdosage7287 I disagree. The list from the video is "albums to GET YOU INTO post-hardcore", not "best albums". Albums like "Yank Crime" are definitely not for beginners unless you already like dissonant music. It's a very abrasive, dissonant album. That's its beauty ofc, but not necessary best album to begin post-hardcore journey. But as I said, depend on where you came from. Also "The Shape..." is kinda more Avantgarde
@@pinkraven4402 i was mad he left out jehu but this makes a lot of sense.
Fuck man, Drive Like Jehu fckn good! I forget! Thanks mate!
Dinosaur jr anybody?
These are great albums! Personally, I prefer the S/T Drive Like Jehu album... Thrasher magazine coined the term emo-core to describe Rites of Spring and Embrace to which Ian M responded "Isn't hardcore emotional enough already???" And I mention this only because I don't think there is anything "post" about it... These are all still basically hardcore albums or emo or punk albums... Stop calling this "Post-hardcore".
Leaves Turn Inside You is one of the best albums ever. I love it so much
Seeing you talk about Leaves Turn Inside You and Red Medicine made my day
Doppelgänger by Fall of Troy is so damn underrated...
I love this so much!
I saw them love before they blew up. All my friends were so blown away to listen to them for the first time live. My friends actually play with some of the members or at least they did before covid
Such a great album
My favorite is Collide with the Sky by Pierce the Veil. Selfish machines is a close second
@@Digital_PeterGriffin my fav by ptv is either selfish machines or a flair for the dramatic tbh
Big Black - entire catalog
Scratch Acid - entire catalog
Fugazi - entire catalog (but In On The Kill Taker is my favorite)
Rites Of Spring - s/t
Hüsker Dü - Zen Arcade
In the 1980s there were two different TV shows called Voltron which were almost the same but different... That is what Big Black and Husker Du is to post-hardcore. It is a completely different genre. Personally, I don't think that anything that still sounds that punk is post-hardcore.
Another victim of the Waldo shirt
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wally not waldo
lol I've got a Waldo shirt
Sartorially valuable. See how the stripes meet at the shoulders?
I feel Bear Vs Shark never get nearly enough recognition, Terrorhawk is one of the greatest post hardcore albums imo
Was NOT expecting The Fall of Troy! Not sure why I wasn't, just all the other bands seemed so traditionally classic. Doppelganger is one of my absolute favorite albums of all time. Literally EVERY song on here is amazing. Never ever is there a dull moment on here. Nice list.
Totally agree, when he put down new post-hardcore I was like, "well no FoT". Namely because of the vocals are more in line with that new Post Hardcore crowd.
this is late but TFOT has some of my favorite guitar work ever. I’ve got no idea how they play those songs live.
have you ever seen them play with CHON? they gooood
yeah,they’re wild. i’ve got no idea how erak does it
Just got to hang out with Thomas Erak the other day. I watched him practice his Solo stuff at my Friends house. Cool guy
Glassjaw were my first post-hardcore love...also, one of my favourites and something i always have to recommend, is Hopesfall's "The Satellite Years"...honestly one of the most impactful albums to me personally...huge guitar sounds, amazing drumming and euphoric/screaming vocals...every track will lift you into a different place...please listen at least once if you haven't before!!
EDIT: Thanks for the Unwound mention...new to me...now listening to "Leaves Turn Inside You"...what an intro!!
At the Drive In, Relationship stayed in my CD player for 2 years straight!
I think La Dispute does definitely deserve some spotlight but I do appreciate you mentioning them and Touché Amore toward the end of the video. Both bands have at least a couple modern classics under their belts in my opinion.
Also I have a soft spot in my heart for Selfish Machines by Pierce the Veil but I can totally see why people wouldn’t like them, that’s the album in their discography I would defend because I think there’s a lot of interesting things going on in that record.
Big fan of Brand New and Pianos Become The Teeth aswell.
Thursday’s War All the Time is what got me started.
Leaves Turn Inside You is never talked about and it makes me sad. Top 25 albums of mine, easily.
Really? I see it talked about a lot.
Well that's just like, your opinion man
Ghoulish Lol. if you visit the albums RYM page you'll see it featured on loads of favourite albums lists just so ya know
I mean, if you search specifically for album discussions on a particular record, of course you'll come across them. RYM is a pretty decent place, not denying you that, but I just meant discussion if this album in the wild, so to speak. Plebbit never speaks on it, it's rare on /mu/, so on.
It's one of the most talked about post-hardcore albums on /mu/, same with >implying and PMC, what are you talkin about
5 albums to get you into Neo-Psychedelia?
1. The Flaming Lips - The Soft Bulletin
2. Animal Collective - Merriweather Post Pavilion
3. Mercury Rev - Yerself Is Steam
4. Tame Impala - Lonerism
5. Deerhunter - Halycon Digest
jamebonez I agree with this
King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard
@@luketuke02 I wouldn't even call them neo-psych. I mean technically you could, if you use the term literally. But neo-psych is usually psych influenced but pulls from folkier or electronic sides of the spectrum. They do both of those things. I wouldn't disagree that you could label them as such. But they're more straight up psychedelic rock in a lot of ways.
Fishmans
I've gotta shout out Mclusky Do Dallas as another Post-Hardcore classic that I've only just discovered, great video as always Oliver, that Fugazi record is going on my list
Honestly, a 5 albums midwestern emo video would be pretty tight
Not necessarily midwest emo but just emo in general:
Lobsterfight- Pink Black and Orange in the Corners
Rites of Spring- Rites of Spring
Weezer- Pinkerton
American Football- American Football
Sunny Day Real Estate- Diary
@@spoonmeanie5644 my chem but not mineral-the power of failing or sunny day real estate-diary. Those bands are at least closer to Midwest emo than mcr, just my two cents though.
@@spoonmeanie5644 My Chemical Romance ain't emo chief
@@antimusicmusicenjoyerSorry 😔
Appleseed Cast - Mare Vitalis, and I will always prefer "How It Feels..." to "Diary" sorry not sorry
Holy fuck. I love you for including Unwound. They're great and not enough people talk about them.
I'm not sure if some of these count as post-hardcore because of influences in math/indie/etc. but Wildlife by La Dispute, Emergency & I by Dismemberment Plan, Different Damage by Q And Not You, and Read Music/Speak Spanish by Desaparecidos are all staples for me
La Dispute and The Dismemberment Plan are definitely good picks. I've heard about Q and not U and I'm not familiar with Desaparecidos.
I like No Kill No Beep Beep better, but that's just me.
Slint - Spiderland
Drive Like Jehu - Yank Crime
Unwound - Fake Train (feel like that's the more quintessential "post-hardcore" as opposed to Leaves Turn Inside You, which isn't very hardcore-ish)
Spiderland isn't fully post-hardcore, I mean, I myself have it on my post-hardcore playlist but it's generally hard to classify. It's kinda math rock, kinda post-hardcore, kinda rock, it's pretty much it's own thing.
For Unwound I would go with New Plastic Ideas. To me NPI is where they really perfected their early sound of "melancholic aggressiveness" if that makes any sense.
@MemesAreDreams Yup, that's what I meant but I made a typo haha
Also, check out Bleach03 "Kibaku-Zai". AMAAAZING!
@@pinkraven4402 spiderland is actually pretty much 100% 4/4 the whole way through so I wouldn't call it math rock per se.
Here are some underrated one's if you're really deep into post hardcore.
Frodus - And We Washed Our Weapons in the Sea
Q and Not U - No Kill No Beep Beep
Juno - This is the Way it Goes and Goes
Monochrome - Laser
Alexisonfire - Self Titled
Lync - These are not Fall Colors
and we washed our weapons in the sea.....brillant record
Although Helmet isn't 100% Post-hardcore, I really like the Post-hardcore elements present in their music. Especially 'Meantime' and the first half of 'Betty'. It would be nice if I could find something like that.
Helmet tends to fall under the broad category of "Alt-Metal", although I agree they have some limited Post-Hardcore elements for sure.
Call it a guilty pleasure, but I really like Aftertaste, too.
@@wombatmats it's definitely not a guilty pleasure to me. Aftertaste is just as good as Meantime or Betty (imo) and is the album that got me into Helmet. It's also in my top 3 favorite albums of all time. If you want pure hard rock then you may not have to look any further than Aftertaste. I think it could've been just as iconic as Meantime or Betty but due to their record label at the time providing less advertisement for Aftertaste it wasn’t perceived as good.
@@DonnyBomb The guitar solo in Driving Nowhere is one of my all-time favorites and was a huge awakening for me when I was 15.
I was going to say helmet it one of the best post hardcore bands
Post hardcore is my favorite genre im really glad you made this lost to get more people into it
I appreciate this list so much.
Great list. Quicksand was so under appreciated.
I'd also highly recommend Jawbox's final two albums.
The first Post Hardcore show I ever went to was in the Fall of 1994. Helmet played at a local venue and Quicksand and Orange 9mm opened for them. Orange 9mm opened the show with a ton of energy as the 1st track they played was "Driver". Chaka Malik was all over the place during that set. Quicksand completely blew me away. It was the 1st time I had attended a show where the opener was far more impressive than the lead act, and Helmet's set was by no means boring, they were great as well.
If I were to recommend 1 Post Hardcore album that doesn't get mentioned but is amazing it would be the Post Hardcore super group Handsome (1997) - self titled album
It is:
Jerry Chatelain who was in Jets to Brazil (Vocals)
Tom Capone of Quicksand (guitar)
Peter Mengede of Helmet (guitar)
Eddie Nappi (bassist)
Pete Hines of the Cro-Mags (Drums)
If you are a fan of the genre of Post Hard I can't recommend this album enough as it is a complete masterpiece. It is too bad the band broke up a year later and were not able to make more music together.
Oof very hard to pick just 5. I personally feel that Refused - Shape of Punk to Come is just TOO important not to include on this list, it broke so many boundaries for the genre and still remains one of the most ambitious albums of its kind. I really don't think it's aged either!
More Essential Post Hardcore Albums:
Drive Like Jehu - Yank Crime
Shellac - At Action Park
Thrice - The Illusion of Safety
Brand New - Deja Entendu
Orchid - Chaos Is Me
Would you really recommend The Shape of to the people who've never heard of post-hardcore as one of the best albums to start the journey? :P
@@pinkraven4402 yes absolutely. Totally essential and important to the genre. Should be within the first 5 albums you hear of the genre absolutely.
@@Frenchiedog It is really just a hardcore punk album. The title "Shape Of Punk To Come" is a jazz reference. It isn't "Post-Hardcore" at all. Sure, there are those samples and whatever, but it is so aggressive. It is definitely PUNK.
Great list, here's mine:
Water and Solutions by Far
Domestica by Cursive
Ideas Above Our Station by Hundred Reasons
Relationship of Command by ATD-i
In/Casino/Out by ATD-i
This is a great list. Relationship of Command is a personal favorite of mine. One record I've always loved but found underappreciated was Lyrburnum by Moss Icon. Fantastic post-hardcore with some early emo. Very wordy and unhinged. Love the videos as always!
Yes to Moss Icon!!
Leaves Turn Inside You is definitely in my top 10 favorite albums of all time.
Yesss!! So happy you mentioned The Fall Of Troy!! I couldn't agree more that their DIY aesthetic is part of their charm!
Great list and here are some of my favorites:
Nation of Ulysses - plays pretty for baby
Fugazi - steady diet of nothing
Dismemberment Plan - Emergency & I
Refused - shape of punk to come
At the Drive In - relationship of command
Saosin- Translating the Name is the best post hardcore project ever and arguably the most influential of it's time
No glassjaws eyewtkas is
most people consider that screamo than post hardcore for what ever reason though
Man thanks for including Unwound in your list, very cool vid btw
I reccomend touche amore - stage four if you would like some contemperary post hardcore. Real good record imo.
Random Guy123 one of the most emotional albums I've ever heard, if you're interested my buddy and I did a podcast talking about that album as his dad is currently battling stage four lung cancer
Chase Urias nice.
Random Guy123 m.soundcloud.com/user-35884301/1-stage-four-by-touche-amore
OMG I love Touche Amore
mad promo skillz
My list:
Saosin - *Translating The Name*
Escape the Fate - *Dying Is Your Latest Fashion*
The Red Jumpsuit Apparatus - *Don't You Fake It*
From First to Last - *Dear Diary, My Teen Angst has a Bodycount*
Silverstein - *A Shipwreck in a Sand*
I admire you for choosing albums that YOU love, its passion like that that is missing from music criticism. Stage Four by Touché Amore is a friggin masterpiece though
I love Relationship of Command, but In/Casino/Out just scratches that itch for me. Perfect record
Yep much better imo
Thursday has always been one of my favs.
I'm going to have to checkout that Unwound album, thanks Oliver.
Got into all of these through contemporary post-hardcore. I think the influences are more evident than you think, even if different. Especially when talking about The Fall of Troy.
Thrice should also be mentioned, they have made many great albums throughout their career. "The Illusion of Safety," "The Artist in the Ambulance," "Major/Minor," and their most recent one "To Be Everywhere Is to Be Nowhere."
I just said that. Artist in the Ambulance paved the way for post-hardcore bands. I just saw their 20th anniversary tour show in Orlando three days ago. It was UNREAL.
Have you heard of the dismemberment plan? I really like their stuff.
Agreed. But due to it being a classic, I end up listening to the other records by them more often.
Change is of my favorite albums ever. Super underrated band.
Unwound is so awesome
Unwound is beyond awesome.
Yayyyyy I love this series. Love me some Fugazi. Would you ever do one of these for some type of Folk?
Double Nickles on the Dime by the Minutemen would've been a cool inclusion
I called Three Way Tie (For Last) because muh preference, but any Minutemen reference is just fine with me.
Here are more
Ling Tosite Sigure - Inspiration Is Dead
Lync - These Are Not Fall Colors
Off Minor - The Heat Death Of The Universe
Alexisonfire - Alexisonfire
yeee nicee... inspiration is dead is so underrated
Really good taste, love it
Yes thank you for including Leaves Turn Inside You
Bit late to the conversation but here's my list;
Alexisonfire - watch out
These arms are snakes - Easter
Refused - tsoptc
At the drive in - relationship
Circa survive - juturna
Also got recommended this video today. I've been listening to watch out on repeat this past month, Dallas is so talented and the contrast between him and the unclean vocalist (can't remember his name) is just so good especially off their first couple albums
nice list...
I think Alexisonfire debut is better than watch out. It's so underrated and it has Pulmonary Archery.
@@youhavetogoback8449 I just prefer how much more polished watch out is production-wise than the self titled, will admit though, water wings, and pulmonary archery are still fantastic tunes
When I first discovered "Post-Hardcore" it was referring to just any hardcore band of the 1990's like Rollins Band and Helmet. It wasn't really referring to bands that were considered pop punk or screamo at the time. That later on began to be the case, perhaps in part for marketing reasons. Like the nu metal bands, many of those artists tried to escape from the emo label and seem to have successfully done so, as a description of screamo seems to have in large part been wiped from wikipedia of any valuable solid description of the divide between it and what post-hardcore has become. While I am not here to state that what post-hardcore was in the beginning is what it is commonly regarded as today, the influence of post-hardcore did play some role in developing it into what it became...in large part against its wishes. Sort of how grunge played a role in influencing what would become post-grunge.
PS: Don't expect that if you go to a Fall of Troy show that they will play FCPREMIX. They probably won't and tell you to go fuck yourself if you yell it out like an idiot yelling "Free Bird!"
I own every album on this list. Great video. Here's some albums that are essential for the genre: Yank Crime by Drive Like Jehu
Manic Compression by Quicksand
Plays Pretty for Baby by Nation of Ulysses
For Your Special Sweetheart by Jawbox
something smugly satisfying about watching this to find that all 5 albums are ones i already listen to and adore. really well made video too
You fucking off all those modern versions of PH earned you a new sub straight away!
The Fall of Troy’s Doppelgänger is an absolute standout album from me, haven’t heard anything that comes close to its unique brand of brutality yet. The production was never really an question for me but I do have that in mind when it comes to their ST.
Leaves turn inside you, relationship of command, I was lucky to be in my teens at that time
I was one of those people who had trouble with the production on the first couple Fall Of Troy records but that was only because my initial exposure to them was someone playing me Phantom On The Horizon all the way through. Once I wore out Phantom, I went back and definitely got way into the first couple releases as well. I haven't played those in quite some time... gonna dig em out!
Ah neat, I don't know that much about post-hardcore apart from Fugazi and Unwound, big fan of both though. Good discussion starter and thanks for the recs!
Also, if any of you want a more hard-hitting, aggressive Unwound album, definitely check out Fake Train. It's one of my favourite records and quite different from Leaves Turn Inside You. Incredible album to absolutely lose your shit to, with simple, effective lyrics and roaring guitars. The way the album cuts off at the end always leaves me in awe. It's a bit derivative of earlier bands at times, I suppose, but definitely check it out if you like your albums to have LOUD parts.
I went to university in DC during the early to mid-90s. A lot of the bands in that scene always referred to themselves as post-punk and fully embraced the DIY ethos with minor local record labels like Simple Machines and Teenbeat and the bands that founded those labels (Tsunami and Unrest respectively) leading the way.
You've got a pretty solid list. I was glad to see Unwound on there.
Some of my faves in the underrated post-hardcore:
NoMeansNo - Wrong (1989)
Slint - Spiderland (1991)
Craw - Lost Nation Road (1994)
Dazzling Killmen - Face of Collapse (1994)
Drive Like Jehu - Yank Crime (1994)
Hum - You'd Prefer an Astronaut (1996)
slint is not underrated
What an great list! Agree with basically everything here. I think it was the right decision to skip over the more recent Post-Hardcore music. However, I don't think it's fair of you to group in Dance Gavin Dance with bands like Peirce the Veil. While I see the comparison, the skill at which DGD goes about their style is unique and unmatched. Usually DGD's singles don't give a fair representation of what they bring to the table, because their label is trying to market them to the same people who are fans of pierce and asking. They are able to blend funky whimsical riffs and attitude, with the contrasting poppy vocals of Tillian, and the chaotic shouts of Mess. It's not really music you are supposed to take seriously all the time. Not only that, their music has been so influential it has created it's own sub-sub genre of music called "swancore" which are bands influenced by their music (Named after the guitarist of DGD, Will Swan.) I really suggest giving happiness and their self-titled death-star album a listen. There is some really great stuff in there. Their best tracks (imo) include Carl Barker, NASA, Privilously Poncheezied, Buffalo!, The Robot with Human Hair Pt. 4, and Eagle Vs Crows
Yeah DGD has always been their own thing. And far and away better then their peers. But since they came out of the Myspace era. They will always get pegged with bands like PTV and A Day to Remember.
Though I'd actually say their first album, Downtown Battle Mountain, is their greatest work and most closely fits the bill of post-hardcore. Albeit still pretty unique with progressive rock and soul flairs.
Mud Kips I think they became more Mars Volta influenced later, and then from there it was just them being them as much as possible.
Maybe they’re higher up than PtV, but they’re still kind of in that vein, especially vocally and lyrically. Way I see it, Pierce the Veil < DGD < Fall of Troy < Mars Volta/At the Drive In
@@rashotcake6945 I'm so confused by this, because all these bands sound so different to me.
@@rashotcake6945 DGD in the same level as saosin
My top 5 -
Fugazi - Repeater
Quicksand - Slip
Slint - Spiderland
Drive Like Jehu - s/t
Jawbox - For Your Own Special Sweetheart
Honorable mentions:
Nation of Ulysses - 13 point Program to Destroy America
Unwound - The Future of What
Frodus - And WeWashed Our Weapons in the Sea
Karp - Suplex
Helmet - Meantime
Texas is the Reason - Do You Know Who You Are?
Big love for TITR, though emo for me, as offshoot of Sensefield, and Helmet hardcore metal, slightly diff. sub genre. Slint huge love , but post rock for me.
Yes! Texas is the Reason is soooo good and under-appreciated!
Refused-Songs To Fan The Flames Of Discontent
Hot Water Music-A Flight And A Crash
Alkaline Trio- Maybe i'll Catch Fire
Rise Against-The Unraveling
Berri Txarrak-Ikasten
Been waiting so long for these list, 3 out of the 5 album are in my top records list and i’ve just checked out quicksand and have just fell in love. Good sr, i approve this listing.
About time!! I was kind of thinking The Blood Brothers would be a good pick, but then I realized you'd have to be super into aggressive music to get into them. One of the most inaccessible bands ever but still great!
Good introduction to post-hardcore, especially as the second wave. For the first wave I'd definitely put Rites Of Spring, Embrace, Fugazi and Husker Du. Maybe also Minutemen, though not sure if they fit the bill accurately.
Personally I've never been too fond of this sub-genre, though I dig Fugazi big time. As for favorite Fugazi album, I'm torn as it changes with years. It used to be "13 Songs", then "Repeater" for a long time, and recently it would be a toss between "Steady Diet of Nothing" or "In On The Kill Taker". I had privilage to see them live back in 2001 or 2002. Epic experience.
I've been part of the hardcore/punk scene since '92, but I have to admit I had never heard of no.4 on your list.
I still remember I started listening to ATDI last year and it completely changed my perception in terms of music. But, the fact you mentioned Fall Of Troy and Doppelganger is awesome. I still remember FCPREMIX was a buyable track on Guitar Hero 3 and the was the first time I was exposed to that Post-hardcore/Mathcore sound. Played a big role for me in my early childhood and my love for music. Great Video!!!
Dance Gavin Dance shouldn’t be put in the same circle as Pierce The Veil ever! They’re definitely post-hardcore fused with other genres. First 2 albums stick to the roots of Post Hardcore but later on their newer albums they become experimental, definitely still post hardcore
Yeah Dance Gavin Dance is a mixture of modern post hardcore and math rock. They're pretty good ngl
facts
Pierce the Veil, Sleeping With Sirens, etc. aren't even post-hardcore to begin with
The last 3 DGD albums have propelled them to legendary status. I was about to give up on em too. Hated the Kurt Travis era and the first couple Tilian albums were meh then somethin happened on Mothership. Better production, gruffer less thin sounding clean vocals, ditching depressing emo vibes for a more fun and funky approach...whatever it was, the last 3 DGD albums have been unlike anything else in their career. They are so damn good now. I got their latest album on vinyl.
@@oropendola01 they’re emo pop / post hardcore / hard rock. It’s all fusion bands lol
Summer's freezing here
Please come back next year
Thank U for mentioning Unwound (rest in POWER - Vern Rumsey) I would say the album “New Plastic Ideas” from 94’ should be on this list! I am biased because I’m 43 & from Washington State - I can tell U that seeing Unwound live in the 90’s, hit me like a train!
Did it hit you like a... _Fake Train?_
I'll see myself out...
@@mtr801 yes, it knocked me in to the Future of what, but then i had to go take my Red Medicine.
@@slimchance7748 Well, in that case I'd suggest a _Steady Diet of Nothing,_ however I could be _Wrong..._
Was expecting to see Rites of Spring and La Dispute on the list, but also can't argue with any of your choices, Oliver. Good to see you back!
So glad to see Quicksand getting some love
love love love 'leaves turn inside you'
Oliver you a real g and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise ya wee gem
The fall of Troy definitely deserves a spot on this list. I was 14 or 15 when I heard it too and I saw them every time they came to my town. saw them start off playing for about eight people in a tiny apartment all the way up to bigger night clubs. The farewell tour when they broke up was one of the best shows I’ve ever seen.
Love the name drop for Oceansize. Their first 3 albums are incredible with Frames being a masterpiece. I was gutted when they split although I struggled with self preserved..
really enjoyed the video as well
I am hooked to Fugazi's Repeater since I first heard it back in 2013. Since then "Two Beats Off" and "Repeater" have found a permanent place on my playlist.
Great list. Thank you for including Doppelgänger! This album, much like Relationship of Command, are pretty ageless. Fire from start to finish with so much technical skill...what’s not to like.
These two albums singlehandedly changed my musical taste when I discovered them.
I was literally writing a comment about Capp'n Jazz when you name dropped them.
Instant subscription.
I heard dance Gavin dance and that made me find Doppelgänger. First album I heard where the guitar playing blew my mind.
Oliver, I love your enthusiasm and commitment to quality. In the case of Post-Hardcore, I do think that the ease of internet hyperlinks has obscured the meaning of the term. This list greatly misrepresents what it is! The defining characteristic of Post-Hardcore is that members must have previously participated in the hardcore scene and moved on to other types of music. Beyond that, it is an ambiguous genre, yet nothing aggressive enough to fit under the umbrellas of punk, hardcore, or metal should be called Post-Hardcore. In its truest sense, the term was used to differentiate “mellow Indie-Rock” or “experimental ambient Space-Rock” bands who came from the DIY HC community from others who did not, which is significant. To the rest of the world Quicksand were just a grungy-alternative band. Personally, I saw At The Drive in play in 2000 and I don’t think a single person in that audience would have called them a “post-hardcore” band.
Doppelganger. such a great addition. The production is perfect imo wouldn't have it any other way.
i discovered at the drive in when i was 13 at the tail end of 2000 and, have never stopped listening to their albums. I never got to see them live since they broke up pretty much as soon as i found them and, i refuse to watch them now when they do random tours because its just not the same energy wise as it was back then its just mars volta covering adti now. but man 24 years later and they are still in my top 5 favorite bands.
Dude this list is awesome!! Slip by Quicksand is amazing, i never see it being talked about enough
I'm hearing red medicine for the first time and this is freakin incredible, thank you
I would've included The Shape Of Punk To Come, otherwise great list!
Amazing record too. Love refused.
Well, remember that this album is more agressive and experimental, not necessary for beginners I think
Jan Lewandowski it’s definitely easier to get into than the unwound record he chose
@@pinkraven4402 I feel like it's more accessible than Red Medicine.
Here's my personal favourite Post Hardcore Albums
Shellac - At Action Park
Drive Like Jehu - S/T
Fugazi - Red Medicine
Unwound - Fake Train
Jawbox - For your own special sweetheart
Honourable mentions
Quicksand - Slip
The Jesus Lizard - Goat
Helmet - Meantime
Slint - Spiderland
Girls Against Boys - Cruise Yourself
Idlewild - Hope Is Important
McLusky - Do Dallas
...And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Dead - Madonna
Cable - When Animal Attack
Bob Tilton - Cresent
Understand - Burning Bushes and Burning bridges
Tar - Toast
You hit two of my favourite albums of all time in Relationship of Command and Doppelganger. There's really nothing quite like The Fall of Troy.
Bro, New Plastic Ideas from Unwound is my favorite hands down
Please, 5 Albums to Get You Into Industrial/Industrial Rock, please
La dispute is fucking great. Great vid. Doppleganger 4 life but Dance Gavin Dance is the the current band that grooves and keeps the hardcore alive imo
Personally I'm a huge sucker for anything Swancore and that's really the sound I prefer. Hail the Sun, Royal Coda, A Lot Like Birds have a really nice dark and complex sound to them that just hit something deep in my head. Hail the Sun's New Age Filth is the most approachable, I think, but I'm really partial to Wake. Both are top tier albums though.
Love this genre/list. Very great pics (though I vehemently disagree with you about Worship and Tribute not aging well!!)
Keep up the great work. Look forward to more vids.
Alexisonfire - Watch Out
Fear before - The always open mouth
As Cities Burn - Son, I loved you at your Darkest
People might not agree but thats just a few that come to mind, I love that Post-Hardcore covers so much variety. Sucks theres not as many bands doing it like that anymore, probably cause it doesnt make money. Would be cool if you could do a list of recent releases that you would consider this sort of interesting Post-Hardcore
Top 5 Emo
1. Sunny Day Real Estate - Diary
2. Christie Front Drive - Stereo
3. Mineral - The Power of Failing
4. The Promise Ring - Nothing Feels Good
5. Jimmy Eat World - Static Prevails
Oliver, thank you. I appreciate you deeply and can't wait to check these albums out
Tough tough choices for all. Mine:
Refused :The Shape of Punk to Come (equally timeless, beg to differ, with... )
ATD-I: Relationship of Command
Quicksand : Manic Compression (this over Slip always provokes, but there we go...)
Fugazi : Red Medicine
Moss Icon : Lyburnum... (so underrated)
Only because they belong in other genres for me, to clarify, big love for :
Cap'n Jazz - post rock
Slint - post rock
Helmet - metalcore
Poison The Well - as above
Orchid - Screamo
Drive Like Jehu - just sorry I can't fit you on 😞
Yes, Glassjaw has aged badly, can't get into Rites of Spring, but don't tell the boys club, they'll kick me out... 😋
happy to see quicksand mentioned