In a residential neighbourhood I almost got my arm ripped off because I got in the centre of the narrow street with my arm out to the left signalling that I was taking that next left and to wait behind me for a few seconds and they went past me ON THE LEFT, and that pissed me off as it made me fearful. Like I'm not telling you to pass me, I'm telling you I am turning.
I want to start my comment by saying great video, and awesome that you are willing to cycle here! But as someone that has lived in the Netherlands all their live, these roads look quite badly designed (if one were to follow all traffic rules) for cyclist and even drivers. The stop signs at most intersections, which (on the uphill) would be incredibly annoying, the lack of real dividers between cars on (straight and wat looks to me, higher speed roads (50+ kph, 30+mph) that don't give any real feeling of danger with speed to drivers and the lack of any shades in a part of America that gets quite hot in summer (I imagine). And as you pointed out the behaviour of cars, the car speeding up to get ahead in the beginning, at 4:39 the cars the looked like they were just guessing who goes first instead of having a ridged order (cars from the right, straight ahead, right turn, left turn). In general, props for cycling here, and a great message at the end!
Thanks, @febstone! I've only been to Amsterdam once, and only for a couple of days, and it was magical wandering around such a city. I didn't get a chance to ride, though, as I quickly figured out there were certain rules and norms I didn't have time to learn. Plus, I didn't know the city at all, so seeing it on foot was a better option. But I can't wait to get back one of these days!
@@RidingBikesinSanDiego For when you get the chance to go again here are some general rules and norm (that I can think of, with the small annotation that I have never cycled in Amsterdam, as I live quite a bit away from it (for Dutch standards)) if there is a cycling path / road (marked by a blue round sign with a bike, or recognizable by it's red colour) use it (real easy one) a second easy one, keep in mind people use the cycling path to get to work or shops, so don't cycle in the middle and be predictable (don't swerve) a third easy one, don't suddenly stop for no apparent reason) indication is probably the same (point with a arm in the direction you want to go, after looking over your shoulder (to know no one is coming up behind)) if someone is blocking the road you can use your bicycle bel and they will probably get out of your way (or they use it to get past you) cycling 2 wide is no problem, but again, keep in mind other cycle path users When there is no cycling path, just use the road on and stay on the right, so car traffic can pass if needed (if you are 2 wide and a car comes up, it is nice if you switch to a line again, but most drivers will be able to pass either way) I think a lot of places will have a no bike parking policy, as there are dedicated spots for them, it might be in english as well, but most of the times they mark it with a round white sign, with a red circle and a bike on it (or in dutch with the text: Geen fietsen plaatsen). (very very rare) emergency services can use the bicycle path if needed, try to get out of their way I think most road signs should speak for themselves, but for a small overview blue circle with bike on it: This is a cycling path, cyclist should cycle here. If it has a red line across it it is the end of the cycling path, but you can still cycle there there is also a second version with 2 bike like thing on it, this is a shared path, you can expect mopeds here as well There are also one way streets, marked by a red sign with a white stipe horizontally in the middle, if there is not a white sign underneath saying "uitgezonderd fietsen" bicycles are not allowed to go into that one way street (though you can get trough it by walking with the bike, as you are considered a pedestrian then). A small tip if you ever need to cross a busy street with a zebra crossing, if you walk with the bike in your hand you are considered a pedestrian and cars have to yield, if you are sitting on the bike you are not considered a pedestrian and cars don't have to yield) And if you ever want to cycle to a different town, google maps does work but can send you on wierd trips, most of the time you can just follow the signs for cars, with the exeption of when those point to a highway (square blue sign with a road on it), as those are off limits for cyclist and are not places where you want to be outside of a car anyways). It should also be possible to go by train, you do need a special ticket for it and it is only allowed on the off peak hours (all information for this should be on ns.nl (the site for the dutch railways)) Your main takeaway should be: be predictable, as there is nothing worse than not knowing what someone will do. Hope this is helpful
That's all very reasonable! Next time, I'll ride, especially now that I have a mental map of the city. One thing that was fascinating to me were all the bikes with the blue front tires, and I later learned that those are part of a rental service. Can't wait to get back!
You're not wrong - bike lane design (and non-car infrastructure in general) is terrible in most of the US. A few reasons for it... - Federal road funding requires states consider alternative transportation. So, if the traffic engineers/DoT don't want to put the effort into good designs, they select poor designs to keep federal money flowing. - Most Americans have never lived where there is good multi-model infrastructure, so they have no idea what it looks like. Yes, even the traffic engineers. - Most Americans are too self-centered to "give" space to bikes or pedestrians. They firmly believe lower lane count will make traffic worse (even if that's demonstrably false). Installing bad infrastructure confirms those biases - "look we added a (unsafe) bike lane and nobody uses it! Let's make it a car lane instead!"
@anotherelvis. I understand. I would it help if they also put their arm out, as is the signal for moving left? The video doesn't show it, but that's what I was doing before they accelerated up on me.
I have an open question for our Mesa, AZ City Council... Would you let your kid ride this city's bike lanes? My Councilmember gave me unequivocal, NO! We have a few round-abouts, too, where the bike lane evaporates (you're on your own!) then picks up again on the other side. Invariably, the driver speeds up and squeezes the cyclist to the curb.
@@jattikuukunen Actually, 2:57 is worse. Wow! I hadn't seen that triangle curb first time round. even tho it appears beveled, this is an accident waiting to happen. Ours, the paint line ends and the road narrows going into the round-about. To be honest, I can't put too much blame on the driver. The design really sucks for the bicyclist.
Just the fact that you are biking with a child, you'd think they'd be a little more cautious driving near you. It's just so dangerous, and for absolutely no good reason!
Nah, people don't give a $. I've seen people, multiple cars no less (2 to be exact) move to the oncoming traffic lane at the same time rather than stop when I'm crossing the school X-zing crosswalk.
As a cyclist I struggle with this a lot. I'm in Washington and I know I'm entitled to my spot on the road, but only until there are three cars queued behind me, at which point I'm obligated to pull over and let cars pass.
I get that, @insanity54, but I don't think that's happening in any of the contexts of this video. That said, if it's safe to do so, I have no problem at all moving to the right and motioning drivers to get around me. But I'm not going to blame drivers or myself for that; we can only do what the design allows.
@stephenherring Stop signs were installed widely specifically in response to drivers killing people, so feel free to consider that before you run around making false equivalences.
I avoid those roundabouts on Meade like the plague. You’ve got cars entering from blind corners and coming up behind you without slowing down. University from 52nd to Fairmount should also be interesting once it’s finished.
Drivers definitely come up from behind, but I might disagree with you about blind corners. Other alternative here will be El Cajon Blvd, which isn't great. There's also Monroe, which doesn't have any bike lane, but also doesn't have stop signs from Texas to 30th.
Kiddo's doing his best! I don't think I was riding with gears until I was like 14. Funny thing is that another dad and I were having a conversation, and he asked if his 6yo should get a bike with gears. I was like, "That doesn't seem necessary." About a week later, I'm at Bikes Del Pueblo, and they have kid's bikes for free. I brought the one he outgrew to donate, and see about one that fit him, and this is the one I was able to score, complete with 6 gears.
Poor infrastructure, poor driver training, poor accountability, road entitlement, poor enforcement. Even with what looks to be fairly good bike paths in your videos, nothing overcomes bad driving
Balboa park area is so bad, had someone talk in one of my classes from Ohio, say that walking there when he arrived felt so unnatural. Its a joke that such a nice part of our city has been transformed into a parking lot. Like a mtb trail or more sports facilities, nah lets chuck on parking that's and a freeway. At least they turned an area of parking into a pedestrian only area recently.
Notice also how narrow most of the sidewalks next to paved surfaces for cars are. It just reinforces the priority of cars over people in the park. I don't go to any park to have to dodge and listen to cars.
At 3:34 in the video, you pull over at the light. Is the purpose of this solely to trigger the green light for bikes, or is there another reason? I usually use the shared lane transition and stay in the road. I always wonder if the pull-off might confuse cars turning right. What’s been your experience?
There's a similar design along Meade at Texas Street. It's for people on bikes and puts you right next to the beg button to get a signal. During lighter traffic periods you may get a green signal quickly. During busier times, you may just have to wait until your turn in the signal cycle. If I'm crossing following a red light, I haven't had issues with turning cars. But if I get to the intersection and the light's already green with turning cars, taking the lane might be the safer option versus the red path on the right.
Thanks for the question, @jkl3768. I pull up onto the island for a couple of reasons. One is to hit the button. The other is because it puts me a few feet ahead of a car that might be making the right turn. The position is designed to help that driver see someone on the curb. If the light's green, I tend to stay in the main travel lane, but when it's red, I do what you see here.
Honest question: are you supposed to ride in the left lane to make the turn? I mean, as a father that rides with his daughter of 7yo in a country with soooo much less respect than US, I always make her ride on the right. In this case I would have preferred to stop at the crossing street and wait the light. But I don't know if in US you are legally mandated and entitled to left turn like that?
Thanks for the question, @ramiroolarte7169. If you're intending to make a left, we can be in the left turn lane. We could also stop, cross, then wait for the next change and cross, but that doesn't always feel necessary.
@@RidingBikesinSanDiego oh ok thanks for the answer... That is a weird thing for me, mainly because here there aren't left turns. Just a few in specific places and only with left turn lights. I think that when I get there to visit my family it could be the last thing to get used to...
I think in the last video you said that Sprouts location was going to be "redeveloped." Do you know if that's just a store renovation or are they replacing it with something else? I stop in at that store often when I come up to Hillcrest. I'd hate to see it go.
I can't say for sure, but the rumors are that it's set to close sometime in the next few months, and then Sprouts is going to take over the Pancho Villas location on El Cajon Blvd just over the 805. I don't have confirmation for this, except what I've heard from some employees here and there.
in America there is a collective attitude that sees bicycle in the road as an obstacle to be overcome as quickly as possible . some go further than that and see cyclists as a target . on top of that the police do not punish drivers for their dangerous maneuvers . i live in Germany where bike riders are mostly treated with respect for two reasons . 1- the drivers are aware of the danger their cars create for the cyclists and,,, 2- they are scared of getting caught doing something dangerous because of the extreme penalties for reckless driving . you can easily lose your license if the police catch you driving like an idiot and then you will have to start riding your bike to work and shop and at that point you want the cars to drive safely around you .
Hey RBiSD, can I take a few screen grabs to show to my traffic commission? We're planning a bunch of roundabouts that, so far, are as poorly designed as this one.
I live up the road in San Bernardino County. I can't be certain, but I've found that drivers in my town have been better in recent years wrt to cyclists. Perhaps it's the 3ft law, but whatever it is, I've experienced noticeably fewer close passes or drivers speeding up while they pass me (which I've long interpreted as deliberately aggressive/menacing). Still, there's no shortage of bad, dangerous driving--which I tend to observe much more when I'm driving.
What's your hurry, @seanhenderson552? Is that living room you're driving around not comfy enough? Most of the time we're going to get to the next red light together, so relax. Or, better, yet, consider riding a bike!
I would never ride in painted bike lanes on roads designed for motor vehicles, that's just stupid, and inviting disaster. But California is crazy in so many different ways.
While I agree with most of what you said, the bicycle can also a weapon. I got hit from behind by a cyclist whilst running. That did some damage to my body. Now it's not the same as a car, but, if the person thinks they're a Tour de France cyclist it feels the same. Now you also show you never stop at stop signs and you run red lights. That is not obeying the rules of the road. That is the biggest pet peeve that I have with all cyclists, runners and walkers. It takes no extra time to be safe and not get injured or killed. Per the code is CVC 21200(a) states that bicycle riders have all the rights - and are subject to all the obligations - as vehicle drivers
For @porschekid70, I'm sorry that some roadie hit you. Obviously, they shouldn't have done that, and they should be held accountable for that harm. Luckily it was only a bicycle. If you spend more time around this channel, you'll see that I do stop at stop signs and red lights. Frequently. I also treat them as yields, often, when it's safe to do so, like when there's not another person even approaching the intersection for at least a block in any direction. For @newmobile1455, I'd suggest that laws equating riding a bike to driving a car are lazy legislation, failing to recognize important distinctions that make major practical differences in the real world. As a reminder, federal law also recognizes the tomato paste in the pizza of school lunches as portion of a serving of vegetables, so let's not act like laws are actually built with precision.
No excuse for drivers to risk harm to bikers due to impatience. Also, bikers need to follow road rules themselves. Such as impeding traffic, pull over and let the cars pass and it's amazing how you're lecturing drivers as you run a stop sign. Yes, those stops are for bikers too.
@klyles70 Stop signs were installed widely specifically in response to drivers killing people, so feel free to consider that before you run around making false equivalences.
@@RidingBikesinSanDiego that is wrong. Per the code is CVC 21200(a) states that bicycle riders have all the rights - and are subject to all the obligations - as vehicle drivers. Read up on some bike codes for the state.
@@RidingBikesinSanDiego sure. And after I stop and then go in my vehicle, I don't want to kill a biker that flys through the intersection that I was not given time to see. Nevermind it's the law that you stop but I would hope you would also want to protect yourself. And that's assuming a four way stop, imagine if it's an intersection where the crossing traffic doesn't even have a stop. Ouch.
@klyles70 Trust me: when cars are present, I stop. You're getting on my case for going through an intersection (treating a stop as yield, which is proven to be safer) when there's literally no driver anywhere even approaching the intersection. Context matters. Similarly, I don't get on drivers who roll stops at 5mph when there's clearly nobody coming from the other direction.
It seems you are already well informed of the current state of driving in America. Also the recent incidents that have happened involving bikes. I think the idea of "you can either be right or be safe" applies here. Should people be doing the things you've mentioned 100%. Cars absolutely should be seen as weapons. But I sure ain't bringing my family on the road because of what "should" happen. Same reason why I will never ride a motorcycle.
I appreciate your point of view, @Nonsense116, but we're not going to be intimidated from riding our bikes around our city. The spaces are here, and the only thing that puts us in danger are drivers. If people don't like it, they should advocate for safer infrastructure, and change their own behavior. Otherwise, it's just good ol' fashion victim blaming.
In a residential neighbourhood I almost got my arm ripped off because I got in the centre of the narrow street with my arm out to the left signalling that I was taking that next left and to wait behind me for a few seconds and they went past me ON THE LEFT, and that pissed me off as it made me fearful. Like I'm not telling you to pass me, I'm telling you I am turning.
I want to start my comment by saying great video, and awesome that you are willing to cycle here!
But as someone that has lived in the Netherlands all their live, these roads look quite badly designed (if one were to follow all traffic rules) for cyclist and even drivers.
The stop signs at most intersections, which (on the uphill) would be incredibly annoying, the lack of real dividers between cars on (straight and wat looks to me, higher speed roads (50+ kph, 30+mph) that don't give any real feeling of danger with speed to drivers and the lack of any shades in a part of America that gets quite hot in summer (I imagine).
And as you pointed out the behaviour of cars, the car speeding up to get ahead in the beginning, at 4:39 the cars the looked like they were just guessing who goes first instead of having a ridged order (cars from the right, straight ahead, right turn, left turn).
In general, props for cycling here, and a great message at the end!
Thanks, @febstone! I've only been to Amsterdam once, and only for a couple of days, and it was magical wandering around such a city. I didn't get a chance to ride, though, as I quickly figured out there were certain rules and norms I didn't have time to learn. Plus, I didn't know the city at all, so seeing it on foot was a better option. But I can't wait to get back one of these days!
@@RidingBikesinSanDiego For when you get the chance to go again here are some general rules and norm (that I can think of, with the small annotation that I have never cycled in Amsterdam, as I live quite a bit away from it (for Dutch standards))
if there is a cycling path / road (marked by a blue round sign with a bike, or recognizable by it's red colour) use it (real easy one)
a second easy one, keep in mind people use the cycling path to get to work or shops, so don't cycle in the middle and be predictable (don't swerve)
a third easy one, don't suddenly stop for no apparent reason)
indication is probably the same (point with a arm in the direction you want to go, after looking over your shoulder (to know no one is coming up behind))
if someone is blocking the road you can use your bicycle bel and they will probably get out of your way (or they use it to get past you)
cycling 2 wide is no problem, but again, keep in mind other cycle path users
When there is no cycling path, just use the road on and stay on the right, so car traffic can pass if needed (if you are 2 wide and a car comes up, it is nice if you switch to a line again, but most drivers will be able to pass either way)
I think a lot of places will have a no bike parking policy, as there are dedicated spots for them, it might be in english as well, but most of the times they mark it with a round white sign, with a red circle and a bike on it (or in dutch with the text: Geen fietsen plaatsen).
(very very rare) emergency services can use the bicycle path if needed, try to get out of their way
I think most road signs should speak for themselves, but for a small overview
blue circle with bike on it: This is a cycling path, cyclist should cycle here. If it has a red line across it it is the end of the cycling path, but you can still cycle there
there is also a second version with 2 bike like thing on it, this is a shared path, you can expect mopeds here as well
There are also one way streets, marked by a red sign with a white stipe horizontally in the middle, if there is not a white sign underneath saying "uitgezonderd fietsen" bicycles are not allowed to go into that one way street (though you can get trough it by walking with the bike, as you are considered a pedestrian then).
A small tip if you ever need to cross a busy street with a zebra crossing, if you walk with the bike in your hand you are considered a pedestrian and cars have to yield, if you are sitting on the bike you are not considered a pedestrian and cars don't have to yield)
And if you ever want to cycle to a different town, google maps does work but can send you on wierd trips, most of the time you can just follow the signs for cars, with the exeption of when those point to a highway (square blue sign with a road on it), as those are off limits for cyclist and are not places where you want to be outside of a car anyways).
It should also be possible to go by train, you do need a special ticket for it and it is only allowed on the off peak hours (all information for this should be on ns.nl (the site for the dutch railways))
Your main takeaway should be: be predictable, as there is nothing worse than not knowing what someone will do.
Hope this is helpful
That's all very reasonable! Next time, I'll ride, especially now that I have a mental map of the city. One thing that was fascinating to me were all the bikes with the blue front tires, and I later learned that those are part of a rental service. Can't wait to get back!
You're not wrong - bike lane design (and non-car infrastructure in general) is terrible in most of the US.
A few reasons for it...
- Federal road funding requires states consider alternative transportation. So, if the traffic engineers/DoT don't want to put the effort into good designs, they select poor designs to keep federal money flowing.
- Most Americans have never lived where there is good multi-model infrastructure, so they have no idea what it looks like. Yes, even the traffic engineers.
- Most Americans are too self-centered to "give" space to bikes or pedestrians. They firmly believe lower lane count will make traffic worse (even if that's demonstrably false). Installing bad infrastructure confirms those biases - "look we added a (unsafe) bike lane and nobody uses it! Let's make it a car lane instead!"
not just look American streets and roads are bad
2:56 The design of this roundabout is crazy. As a driver I wouldn't expect the cyclist to suddenly change lane.
@anotherelvis. I understand. I would it help if they also put their arm out, as is the signal for moving left? The video doesn't show it, but that's what I was doing before they accelerated up on me.
I bet that 2 minutes (at most) really changed his day
@ablackney Maybe they need a comfier chair in that living room they're steering around...
I have an open question for our Mesa, AZ City Council... Would you let your kid ride this city's bike lanes? My Councilmember gave me unequivocal, NO! We have a few round-abouts, too, where the bike lane evaporates (you're on your own!) then picks up again on the other side. Invariably, the driver speeds up and squeezes the cyclist to the curb.
You mean like 2:57? That's terrifying street design.
@@jattikuukunen Actually, 2:57 is worse. Wow! I hadn't seen that triangle curb first time round. even tho it appears beveled, this is an accident waiting to happen. Ours, the paint line ends and the road narrows going into the round-about. To be honest, I can't put too much blame on the driver. The design really sucks for the bicyclist.
Just the fact that you are biking with a child, you'd think they'd be a little more cautious driving near you. It's just so dangerous, and for absolutely no good reason!
We would think that, especially the first driver who has a kid in the car. But cars dehumanize people.
Nah, people don't give a $. I've seen people, multiple cars no less (2 to be exact) move to the oncoming traffic lane at the same time rather than stop when I'm crossing the school X-zing crosswalk.
That pass coming into the roundabout/traffic circle was bloody criminal
As a cyclist I struggle with this a lot. I'm in Washington and I know I'm entitled to my spot on the road, but only until there are three cars queued behind me, at which point I'm obligated to pull over and let cars pass.
I get that, @insanity54, but I don't think that's happening in any of the contexts of this video. That said, if it's safe to do so, I have no problem at all moving to the right and motioning drivers to get around me. But I'm not going to blame drivers or myself for that; we can only do what the design allows.
You call it unaware, We call it "You Can't Fix Stupid. "
I think people have the capacity to learn and change their points of view. But looking at life through a windshield makes that difficult.
I love the way you comment on drivers and then run stop signs.
@stephenherring Stop signs were installed widely specifically in response to drivers killing people, so feel free to consider that before you run around making false equivalences.
I avoid those roundabouts on Meade like the plague. You’ve got cars entering from blind corners and coming up behind you without slowing down. University from 52nd to Fairmount should also be interesting once it’s finished.
Drivers definitely come up from behind, but I might disagree with you about blind corners. Other alternative here will be El Cajon Blvd, which isn't great. There's also Monroe, which doesn't have any bike lane, but also doesn't have stop signs from Texas to 30th.
lol @1:33 I'm like lil bro should change his gears and then "MILES CHANGE GEARS!!!"
Kiddo's doing his best! I don't think I was riding with gears until I was like 14. Funny thing is that another dad and I were having a conversation, and he asked if his 6yo should get a bike with gears. I was like, "That doesn't seem necessary." About a week later, I'm at Bikes Del Pueblo, and they have kid's bikes for free. I brought the one he outgrew to donate, and see about one that fit him, and this is the one I was able to score, complete with 6 gears.
Poor infrastructure, poor driver training, poor accountability, road entitlement, poor enforcement.
Even with what looks to be fairly good bike paths in your videos, nothing overcomes bad driving
Balboa park area is so bad, had someone talk in one of my classes from Ohio, say that walking there when he arrived felt so unnatural. Its a joke that such a nice part of our city has been transformed into a parking lot. Like a mtb trail or more sports facilities, nah lets chuck on parking that's and a freeway. At least they turned an area of parking into a pedestrian only area recently.
Notice also how narrow most of the sidewalks next to paved surfaces for cars are. It just reinforces the priority of cars over people in the park. I don't go to any park to have to dodge and listen to cars.
Driving should be a privilege not a right.
Special because cars are weapons
Last I checked, driving is a privilege. Sadly, there are far too many people operating vehicles that should not be.
driving has never been a right that's a lie the Auto Industry pays politicians to say
At 3:34 in the video, you pull over at the light. Is the purpose of this solely to trigger the green light for bikes, or is there another reason? I usually use the shared lane transition and stay in the road. I always wonder if the pull-off might confuse cars turning right. What’s been your experience?
There's a similar design along Meade at Texas Street. It's for people on bikes and puts you right next to the beg button to get a signal. During lighter traffic periods you may get a green signal quickly. During busier times, you may just have to wait until your turn in the signal cycle. If I'm crossing following a red light, I haven't had issues with turning cars. But if I get to the intersection and the light's already green with turning cars, taking the lane might be the safer option versus the red path on the right.
Thanks for the question, @jkl3768. I pull up onto the island for a couple of reasons. One is to hit the button. The other is because it puts me a few feet ahead of a car that might be making the right turn. The position is designed to help that driver see someone on the curb. If the light's green, I tend to stay in the main travel lane, but when it's red, I do what you see here.
Honest question: are you supposed to ride in the left lane to make the turn? I mean, as a father that rides with his daughter of 7yo in a country with soooo much less respect than US, I always make her ride on the right. In this case I would have preferred to stop at the crossing street and wait the light.
But I don't know if in US you are legally mandated and entitled to left turn like that?
By the way, I didn't use the "entitled" in the bad meaning, but just as you said, in the legal rights one
Thanks for the question, @ramiroolarte7169. If you're intending to make a left, we can be in the left turn lane. We could also stop, cross, then wait for the next change and cross, but that doesn't always feel necessary.
@@RidingBikesinSanDiego oh ok thanks for the answer... That is a weird thing for me, mainly because here there aren't left turns. Just a few in specific places and only with left turn lights. I think that when I get there to visit my family it could be the last thing to get used to...
I think in the last video you said that Sprouts location was going to be "redeveloped." Do you know if that's just a store renovation or are they replacing it with something else? I stop in at that store often when I come up to Hillcrest. I'd hate to see it go.
I can't say for sure, but the rumors are that it's set to close sometime in the next few months, and then Sprouts is going to take over the Pancho Villas location on El Cajon Blvd just over the 805. I don't have confirmation for this, except what I've heard from some employees here and there.
@@RidingBikesinSanDiego Wow I've been out of the loop and haven't heard about any of that. What kind of re-development (if rumors are true)?
@@RidingBikesinSanDiego aw man, I don’t want Pancho Villa replaced by Sprouts ☹️
in America there is a collective attitude that sees bicycle in the road as an obstacle to be overcome as quickly as possible . some go further than that and see cyclists as a target .
on top of that the police do not punish drivers for their dangerous maneuvers .
i live in Germany where bike riders are mostly treated with respect for two reasons .
1- the drivers are aware of the danger their cars create for the cyclists and,,,
2- they are scared of getting caught doing something dangerous because of the extreme penalties for reckless driving .
you can easily lose your license if the police catch you driving like an idiot and then you will have to start riding your bike to work and shop and at that point you want the cars to drive safely around you .
Hey RBiSD, can I take a few screen grabs to show to my traffic commission? We're planning a bunch of roundabouts that, so far, are as poorly designed as this one.
Have at it! Any driver who is accelerating towards a round-about doesn't know what they're doing.
I live up the road in San Bernardino County. I can't be certain, but I've found that drivers in my town have been better in recent years wrt to cyclists. Perhaps it's the 3ft law, but whatever it is, I've experienced noticeably fewer close passes or drivers speeding up while they pass me (which I've long interpreted as deliberately aggressive/menacing). Still, there's no shortage of bad, dangerous driving--which I tend to observe much more when I'm driving.
if your going to slow me down on the road im going to speed around you
What's your hurry, @seanhenderson552? Is that living room you're driving around not comfy enough? Most of the time we're going to get to the next red light together, so relax. Or, better, yet, consider riding a bike!
traffic circle lmao
I actually prefer them to intersections with stop signs or lights. I just wish drivers knew more about how to use them.
@@RidingBikesinSanDiego it's more a Thing in Europe. You find the best Example in National Lampoons European Vacation.
I would never ride in painted bike lanes on roads designed for motor vehicles, that's just stupid, and inviting disaster. But California is crazy in so many different ways.
While I agree with most of what you said, the bicycle can also a weapon. I got hit from behind by a cyclist whilst running. That did some damage to my body. Now it's not the same as a car, but, if the person thinks they're a Tour de France cyclist it feels the same. Now you also show you never stop at stop signs and you run red lights. That is not obeying the rules of the road. That is the biggest pet peeve that I have with all cyclists, runners and walkers. It takes no extra time to be safe and not get injured or killed. Per the code is CVC 21200(a) states that bicycle riders have all the rights - and are subject to all the obligations - as vehicle drivers
in Alabama law says the samething but added that a bicycle is a vehicle the same as what a car is
For @porschekid70, I'm sorry that some roadie hit you. Obviously, they shouldn't have done that, and they should be held accountable for that harm. Luckily it was only a bicycle. If you spend more time around this channel, you'll see that I do stop at stop signs and red lights. Frequently. I also treat them as yields, often, when it's safe to do so, like when there's not another person even approaching the intersection for at least a block in any direction.
For @newmobile1455, I'd suggest that laws equating riding a bike to driving a car are lazy legislation, failing to recognize important distinctions that make major practical differences in the real world. As a reminder, federal law also recognizes the tomato paste in the pizza of school lunches as portion of a serving of vegetables, so let's not act like laws are actually built with precision.
No excuse for drivers to risk harm to bikers due to impatience. Also, bikers need to follow road rules themselves. Such as impeding traffic, pull over and let the cars pass and it's amazing how you're lecturing drivers as you run a stop sign. Yes, those stops are for bikers too.
@klyles70 Stop signs were installed widely specifically in response to drivers killing people, so feel free to consider that before you run around making false equivalences.
@@RidingBikesinSanDiego that is wrong. Per the code is CVC 21200(a) states that bicycle riders have all the rights - and are subject to all the obligations - as vehicle drivers. Read up on some bike codes for the state.
@@RidingBikesinSanDiego sure. And after I stop and then go in my vehicle, I don't want to kill a biker that flys through the intersection that I was not given time to see. Nevermind it's the law that you stop but I would hope you would also want to protect yourself.
And that's assuming a four way stop, imagine if it's an intersection where the crossing traffic doesn't even have a stop. Ouch.
@klyles70 Trust me: when cars are present, I stop. You're getting on my case for going through an intersection (treating a stop as yield, which is proven to be safer) when there's literally no driver anywhere even approaching the intersection. Context matters. Similarly, I don't get on drivers who roll stops at 5mph when there's clearly nobody coming from the other direction.
there is no law that says cyclist have to pull over for drivers in any state a bicycle is a vehicle the same as a car by law
It seems you are already well informed of the current state of driving in America. Also the recent incidents that have happened involving bikes. I think the idea of "you can either be right or be safe" applies here. Should people be doing the things you've mentioned 100%. Cars absolutely should be seen as weapons. But I sure ain't bringing my family on the road because of what "should" happen. Same reason why I will never ride a motorcycle.
I appreciate your point of view, @Nonsense116, but we're not going to be intimidated from riding our bikes around our city. The spaces are here, and the only thing that puts us in danger are drivers. If people don't like it, they should advocate for safer infrastructure, and change their own behavior. Otherwise, it's just good ol' fashion victim blaming.