How Speedrunners Broke Quest for Glory III
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- Опубліковано 1 лип 2024
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00:00 A Hero (?) Approaches
03:35 Bed Tech
10:21 DDD
15:34 The Lost City
16:59 Mike Tyson
22:13 Holes in the Walls
"Required agility check" footage comes from pawdugan
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Notes / Addenda:
03:15 The reason Lemming puts the skill slider back down is because of the fight at 17:00.
14:08 Earlier, Rakeesh will also stop you to sleep as he's escorting you to the Simbani village.
14:47 A point of clarification: you can ALWAYS run away, you just normally have to wait a few seconds until the worm shows up. Using the glitch featured allows to leave early.
22:08 It's possible to speed this up a little by increasing the skill slider back up to max.
This is one of the few QFG speedruns where we save more lives by skipping all that pesky heroism content. Can't get the Laibon killed if we never send him to make peace with a demon.
It's fascinating that one of my biggest contributions to the QFG series has been through discovering a glitch that I almost never use because it isn't applicable to the categories I prefer to run (usually 100% for each class).
I didn't see DDD's game-skipping effects immediately. In addition to the "not passing time" effect described in the video, it completely prevents you from getting random encounters. Devastating to a fighter 100% run, but even the other classes need to visit the lost city screen to free Manu from the cage. The total loss of random monsters prompted me to reset my run before fully exploring the consequences. We discovered the free trip to the Lost City when Misterprmiller played with the glitch later.
teamwork!
I love these Sierra game speedrun videos so much
So many of the tricks are just "yeah so I was clicking one day and then I skipped half the game, crazy right?", its beautiful
That's how it happens! :)
While this subgenre of youtube documentary is definitely getting more and more popular, you're one of the only people actively pushing the format forward by including the interviews. It's a detail that vastly improves the delivery and professionalism of the whole video, and I'm really hoping it starts a trend to get the subjects more personally involved in telling their own stories.
Thanks! I'd really like to see more of that, too. I've watched some speedrun docs where I was having trouble keeping track of who was who because all I had was a name. To be fair, it takes a lot of time. For the three runners in this video, I interviewed each of them for about an hour. Then there's the time going back through it and finding the choice quotes, etc.
@@OneShortEye It’s definitely worth the effort. Speedrunners usually seem to be pretty interesting people, and they bring a lot of personality to the video! They really make these old games sound like precision engineered rocket science. Thanks for all the work you do to show off such a charming subculture.
@@OneShortEye Keep at it and maybe expand to another franchise or two to scale up. I'd bet on there being a zero on the end of your sub count in a year.
Agreed
I hear you but just ignoring summoning salt is just oblivious!
16:20 "But if you don't have the gem, the game puts one in the statue so you're not stuck."
That sounds surprisingly merciful for a Sierra game.
It surprised me too.
The Quest for Glory series is surprisingly merciful with this kind of thing. Fighters also get the spear of death at the end even if they didn't grab it earlier in the game.
Maybe I misheard, but a small point of clarification. You can run away from the demon worm even casually. You just have to wait a few seconds for the game to let you. There is specific Manu dialog saying how smart you are for not facing the Bad Thing. The tricks mentioned just let you run sooner. (and these are tricks I didn't know yet, time save here we come!)
You are correct, and that's a good point. I've added it to the pinned comment.
Asking new runners to "fix your skip" is such a good idea. Sometimes all you need is a new perspective
Absolutely. We've been lucky to have a lot of new runners come to the series and their perspective is so important for finding skips and new optimal ways to run.
The Quest for Glory videos really make me want to play the games honestly.
The games might be broken to hell and back, but they look so unique and interesting.
I think the QfG games hold up extremely well. I didn't play most of them until very recently, and I'm really enjoying it. (Currently in the middle of playing 4.)
I'll second OneShortEye the games are well worth playing through. Taking my character through every game is still one of my top gaming memories.
QFG1 is definitely worth playing through at the very least. Great little game that. Don't be afraid of heavily using a walkthroguh. Those old Sierra games can be pretty obtuse at times.
1 through 4 are fantastic. Make sure to play the fan remake of 2.
@@Joker22593 I still need to get around to that
I'm a simple man. I see a new OneShortEye video, I smile and watch.
Finally, the one I grew up with, but I never managed to get to the Leopardmen Village back then because I was ultimately a dumb kid before the internet.
To be fair, any% speedrunners never make it to the Leopardmen Village either.
@@OneShortEye That'll be my cover story from now on. I was just practicing my speedrun...before actually beating the game properly.
The internet may not have helped. Getting the leopardwoman to spawn, depending on your class, is one of the biggest pieces of misinformation out there in walkthroughs.
2:53 "Normally this conversation has a lot of pawses in it"
yeah it does
Silky smooth editing the whole way through! I haven't played the Sierra games, so the extra detail into strategies not used in this particular run was especially appreciated!
Every time I see a new video from you it's like opening a present! I love everything about your videos: structure, interviews, humor, editing and so on. But my favourite thing is that you focus on cool ideas, coming up with new shortcuts, abusing glitches rather than boring grind etc. Most speedrunning videos I've seen are concerned mostly with how fast someone mashed their buttons, and how they were then surpassed by someone who mashed their buttons slightly faster, and so on for 40 minutes. Which gets old rather quickly. You, instead, find interesting games with interesting speedrunning tactics and then make interesting videos about them. Please, continue!
Everyone runs thief because it's faster and has 100% less Blue Orchid RNG.
But for the budding speedrunner, there is a lot of room for improvement in the wizard category that is a thorn to many a Miller's side. A totally fetching runner could blossom with this category that has stemmed the tide of many runs.
Thief was always my preferred for Completionist (not speed) runs cause it's the best for Hybrid from #1.
@@TrentR42 thief with magic use added from QFG I is such a fun way to play the games just to play them - so many options for puzzle solutions are open to you that way!
@@TrentR42 this, also you get to see both wizard specific and thief specific rooms that way.
Now that I mentioned this, I never tried a fighter, wonder if there's a Fighters guild area I missed
Seeing the protg rest in 1-hour intervals makes for an easy DnD Short Rest joke.
Awesome a new vid! I'm currently on game 5 of my first playthrough of QfG 1-5. Picked it up because of your QFG 1 video and Miller's and Davidtki's RPG Limitbreak runs. So thanks for that, amazing game series!
Glad you're enjoying them! I'm actually still in the middle of QfG 4, casually. Really liking it. I only played QfG 1 VGA as a kid, so playing these as an adult, I think they really hold up.
I'm really happy to hear that you are playing Dragon Fire as well. QFG5 is a little off-putting at first but it absolutely deserves love and is a worthy finale to the series.
@@DavidKraftIshihama Finished QFG 5 last night and it was a bit harder getting into it than the first 4 but I still enjoyed it for the amazing conclusion to the hero's journey. 60 fps dragon and the souls in hades killed me quite a lot though :)
These documentaries about speedrunning old DOS games are amazing. I also love how you interview the speedrunners and let them talk in detail regarding glitches or strategies, and even if I have never played any of these games their explanations are usually good enough that even I understand what's going on. Keep up the great work, can't wait to see the next video.
Okay, so first the world is cast into perpetual darkness, then time is made to no longer pass? Are we sure we're the heroes here?
"Hero"
So happy when I see these videos drop on my home page. Keep them up. They always bring a smile to my face.
Glad to hear it!
I love that point and click adventure games have their own Summoning Salt now lol
I remember as a kid playing and beating Monkey Island multiple times and wishing I had more.
If only I knew about things like Quest for Glory, I'd have loved this game back then.
Nice! The 4th best QFG game 😆
Thief guy: You did good, kid.
"Starts rapidly rave dancing"
Lion guy: This is dark magic! Zappy Stabby!
The editing in video is amazing, from all the little animations, to the text bars and highlighting. Not to mention the interviews and the way you neatly summarised the plot of the game so people like me, who haven't played it, can appreciate the story and how much time was saved via sequence breaks. Phenomenal work!
I appreciate the kind words. Glad you enjoyed it!
incredible dance party of 1 at the end, such interesting glitches here, awesome video on an awesome game I wish I knew about before!
Love the QFG series with all my heart
It's a great series that still holds up today, imo.
Love these videos. So fun seeing a small niche speedrun and getting to hear the mix of hard work, luck and team work that goes into cracking a game wide open
I've been waiting for a good explanatory video on the skips in this game. I've seen them done live in speedruns but never seen a full rundown of any of them. Nicely done.
Wow, glad I could catch this right as it was uploaded! I recently found this channel and all of your videos are super interesting and well-made. Keep up the great work!
Thanks for the kind words! Glad you're enjoying them.
Love your work! It's fun to see you level up with editing and scripting! Been really fun to revisit some of my favorite childhood games
Excellent as always. A perfectly made video, both in visual and vocal presentation.
Enjoyed it a lot, thanks!
Seriously love your channel! I am not at all into speedrunning but you present everything in such a succinct and straightforward manner its absolutely fascinating to watch!
I'm surprised this wasn't recommended to me for 3 days! Super excited to watch this analysis video! Thanks for uploading!
Might comment more later!
I'm excited for this video format, looking forward to more videos!
Always a treat to see you upload, man :) I love your style and love the informative nature of your videos. Keep it up!
2:50: The Liontaurs assume Zappy Stabby would look at them instead of checking himself out if he wanted to speak up.
Your videos are amazing, superbly edited and narrated. Love the focus given on what seems to be a smaller but still crazy dedicated speedrunning scene.
Glad you enjoy them!
I never really appreciated how different and unique the QFG games were compared to other point-n-click adventures as a kid. They really do have a vibe all their own. Maybe the closest thing I can liken them to is actually the old Lone Wolf gamebooks, but even that’s a stretch. Thanks for not only providing an exceptional speedrunning documentary but a little taste of what these unique games are like. Like others here, I’m really tempted to go play them now. (And Heroine’s Quest, and that new game the Coles made…)
Glad you're enjoying the videos, and I appreciate the kind words.
I always get so excited when I see that you’ve posted another video! Keep up the good work, your content is awesome!
Happy you're enjoying it. :)
you are an amazing historian. I've been binging your videos. The time it took to make each one must have been ages. Keep up the good work man.
I love these videos, thank you for taking the time to make them
The QFG series are one of my favorite games! Would love to see more QFG content. Great video!
Can't wait to enjoy the whole thing. Thank you for the captivating content.
LOve these speedruns videos, keep up the good work
these videos are so fun to watch! I don't enjoy playing these types of games myself so I'm glad that I can still experience parts of the game and its history through your videos
The best part of UA-cam for me is watching someone go really deep into a subject I have no interest in myself. I can watch Technology Connections rant about toasters and dishwashers forever.
I love quest for glory. One of my all times favs
It's really held up as a series.
Not only did this channel already have masterfully made content, this is definitely a new level!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Really brilliant put together video again. If I were you I'd be expanding your speedrun documentary horizons beyond the Quest games.
These video's are so good, going the extra mile to talk to the runners was an amazing call
Glad you're liking them!
yet another awesome vid! i never thought puzzle game speedruns could be so exciting yet time and time again you surprise me. excellent script and production quality keep me coming back for more!
Admittedly they don't start out as very interesting speedruns but they have has many bugs/exploits as any other genre and if you play them enough you start to notice the cracks you can take advantage of.
I really love the QFG series. Thanks for showcasing this!
I played most of them for the first time as an adult, and it really has held up well.
Love your videos tbh
Great job with this one OneShortEye!
bro i love your content, never did a speedrun in my life nor did i play any Quest for Glory but i love these documentaries, it makes me appreciate all the people that dedicate so much time becoming the best in something they love.
Glad you're enjoying them!
19:00 So even official QFG2 speedruns use the fan remake now? LOL
Anyway, love these QFG videos! I hope you'll eventually cover the whole series. 🙂
(Also, it would be interesting to hear more about running the other character classes, and\or why one class is picked over others.)
We wouldn't use the fan-remake if it didn't have that all important limited-license that was granted by Vivendi/Activision at the time that allowed them to do it and release it for free. :) Because it has that license, it is approved for runs.
It's the faster option for runs through all five games, but I strongly recommend you check out the original QFG2's speedruns, so many great skips and VERY optimized.
The multi-minute wait in Raseir is a major obstacle to QFG2EGA runs. In the best case scenario you're spending 5.5 minutes dealing with the fact that your inn room doesn't open until night, and it's hard for EGA to compete when the remake has that wait cut out completely.
I missed your previous comment about the other character classes.
For QFG3, the Thief is chosen primarily because of how little they have to deal with in the end game. Mike Tyson is their only major obstacle. The fighter doesn't have a way to skip the first blue demon fight AND has to deal with a gargoyle fight in the final screen AND is unable to use magic in combat. Fighter can deal with all of this but they do end up a fair bit slower in the process.
And wizard. Poor poor wizard. The amount of creativity that goes into the wizard run is fascinating, but: The wizard can't beat the game without the Summon Staff spell. Which means they have to find the orchid in the jungle WHILE DDD IS ACTIVE, go back to Tarna and walk with Rakeesh AGAIN and activate DDD a second time so that time will pass until night so that they can dip the orchid in the pool of peace at night. They get their magic wood, go back to Tarna, get the Summon Staff spell, then walk with Rakeesh again and activate DDD a THIRD time.
Amazing video as always!
Love these videos!
Also known as: QfG3: The Christmas Season Filler
I was thinking about this today. I actually enjoyed my time with it. I don't think it's a bad game. But the Coles always explained that this was a bridge between 2 and 4, and sort of necessary transition before getting to the darker game. And you know, the game FEELS that way, like a transition, a trip on the way to something better.
@@OneShortEye Imagine how much better both Shadows of Darkness and the imaginary winter-themed game could have been if the Coles had been given the time to deliver their vision.... or maybe they would have been forced to move to WA then fired without finishing anything......
just as I was rewatching your content, a new upload today, awesome!
Good timing!
Interesting video, please keep uploading!
Such a great channel. Love this content!
Glad you're enjoying it!
YES! I love these videos you make.
He is back! One of the few things that can save a boring Monday: A new OneShortEye video and a cold beer after work. What a time to be alive! Cheers and thanks for the video
Glad to be a part of your Monday.
The production value in your videos is so good, I envy it so much lol
Thank you for the kind words. :)
Always love seeing quest for glory content
It's a great series with a lot of really cool runners.
Dude. I just realized that I never subscribed. But I LOVE this stuff and I’ve never played any of these games. Always loved maniac mansion and stuff like that. But I’m ALWAYS pumped when we get new content from this channel.
Finally! I am so excited to come on YT and see it!
Another one? Great!
Keep up the great work!
Literally laughed out loud with my kids at Rakeesh: "Zappy Stabby!"
I guess this video is good enough for an algorithm boost.
Guess so.
Great video. I wonder what next Sierra or LucasArts game we could see next. I'd love to see something like Maniac Mansion or one of the LSL games. Maybe another Space Quest.
Thanks for the video. Some crazy stuff 😅
Love your videos. I used to love adventure games but, never thought I'd find their speedrunning so interesting as well.
I love these videos. I've only ever speedran things like Killing Floor 2 but this makes me want to expand into other games. The communities in these older games are amazing and unlike anything ive been a part of while running games.
Excellent content
Funny thing, this video actually got me interested in wanting to play the game like normal. The artwork and world it's set in look lovely.
This era of Sierra games has some of my favorite artwork. Quest for Glory, King's Quest V and VI... The Quest for Glory series is still worth playing through.
Awesome video!
I love how we're talking about time skips in this game that was released in 1993 (when my parents got us our first computer and bought this game off for me) 30 years later.
Great video!
QFG3 was the first ever game I purchased. It holds a special place in my heart. Really interested to see this video.
Hell yeah another one of these
One of my all time favorites.
"Furious narcissism." XD
love the channel
Great video. Quest for Glory series is the GOAT! Also QFG4 is the best hands down :)
I'm actually in the middle of playing QFG4 casually and really enjoying it.
@@OneShortEye Glad to hear that your enjoying the game.
I love the amount of skips in this run that were found by rapidly clicking as usual...but this time something different happened! lol
Always hyped to see video content from you, you're a real inspiration
That's very kind of you!
Yes, another oneshorteye video!
I require more of your videos 😳
I wish you’d do one of these for KQIV !! Immediately subscribed
"Furious narcissism" is an absolutely legendary phrase.
It's my lunch break and I'm ready for a great video
Hope your lunch was good!
Woooow I loved this game as a kid and NEVER beat it. When I subbed to this channel I hoped maybe you'd cover it some day.
You can finally beat it now if you have 15 minutes to spare. :)
Given my sleep schedule recently, I could use some bed tech. >_>
Amazing video as always~
Don't we all!
Yay new video!
never played RPG games like this but damn do i eagerly await these videos
You are so goddamn great at making these. One of my very favorite creators on YT.
You're too kind. I'm glad you're enjoying the videos!
ZAPPY STABBY TEARING IT UP ON THE DANCE FLOOR
It's kind of funny seeing a game I played so much as a kid in the 90s being put through the blender in the present