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I also completely missed that the iBasso has ITS OWN OPERATING SYSTEM that is just the raw music player.. I will re-review that unit with the new amp module in the future. No worries.
yeah I actually need a dap. I use an ear studio but I want a stand alone player after a couple months of use and now I need a dap. this ibasso might be it!
After listening to this review and many others about the DX240, I bought it. Your review is my favorite. The DX240 is everything you say it is. It was your review that really brought my attention to the DX240 vs the Fiio, any Astell&Kern player, or any other. If anything ever "happens to it", I would buy this one again in a second.
I've had 4 iBasso DAPs, three were DX200 and one DX160. Two of the DX200s failed with different faults, and thenDX160 lasted 5 days before it stopped allowing me to unlock the screen on bootup. That's a 75% failure rate. I don't care how good they sound, I will never buy another iBasso product.
I used to love small DAPs just for music, but over the last like 4 years I got used to a huge in comparison screen of a phone that I just can't go back to the smallest DAPs. Like it feels like I'd need a microscope to navigate the thing and reading glasses to see the album art. Which is such a contrast to the effortless presentation of massive, glorious album art and all the information you ever need on a big-screen device. On the other hand, giant players like the M11 or the iBasso lineup are of good size screens, but the weight and thinness.. fk. I do not want to carry a brick. I don't care how good the music sounds, that's just insane. If I want the best of the best sound I'd listen on my home setup with all the giaat amps and dacs and the like. Portable. As in pocketable, not need-a-truck-to-howl-around.
ditch all cell phones.. don't even carry a flip phone. get a portable cassette player, cd player or if you're truly adventurous, a minidisc player. absolutely no laptops, ever.. only use a computer when you're sitting at a desk and when you do that, no 'social media' sites. Life is immediately 100000000000x better.
@@edwindejesus1573 No, not yet. But the M11 Plus is my top choice so far. Pricing has dropped and Apos’ certification process for their refurbed equipment makes me less apprehensive to purchase with them. I’ll circle back when I pull the trigger!!
@@terryss95 as far as i've seen a connector being fragile. there are only few. mini hdmi and micro usb. its not the size that makes things fragile. i can dangle my phone off the wall from a 1 ft usb c cable.
I just ordered the AP80 Pro coming tomorrow at $100 on Amazon. A. DAPs usually sound far superior to the phones or tablets B. conrol over the collection and C. can use them with wired and/or balanced headphones and just get a superior listening experience. Also battery life, and features. My IPhone 14 is fine for the car but I wouldn't rely on it otherwise for serious music. I also got some AirPod knock off IEMs and they sound fine, but have almost NO power. Plus the DAPs have at least a decent amp built in. The Bluetooth on the AP80 is just icing on the cake, as I doubt I'll even use it that much.
@@spamcan9208 I found a deal one on Amazon, refurb or repacked, not sure. Well, I ended up returning it, only because it had trouble finding a ton of newer .wav music on my transferred SD card, I'm not sure why. I tried everything to get it to do so, it just wouldn't. The player seemed good, if a bit tiny. I ended up going a different way.
Being new to audiophilia and slowly learning. Daily drivers are Audeze Isine 20, Qudelix 5k attached to the monoprice monolith portable dac amp. Just bluetooth from my phone on amazon music. Its a start and as newbie as i am, its amazing. Just waiting on a Modhouse Argon mk3 and then Audeze lcdx cuz i love America. Then just need to round up on a home system for gaming and music.
With the Ap80pro-x player, I can say that it runs well on Android systems and is stable if you want to stream it with your smartphone. Via cable as well as Bluetooth, but with Apple I can't recommend it. With Apple, only Bluetooth with the neutered SBC mode works, which is really disappointing. And with cable to connect an Apple device, the player crashes, interrupts the playback, so it doesn't work. Which is a real shame otherwise it would have been a pretty good player if both worked equally. Also the Kamaeraadt adapter doesn't work, I tried it and decided to return it. Hidizs didn't give me the impression that they were going to fix it with a firmware update. So I can say for Android devices it's okay but for Apple devices it's not. At this price you have to say that you should consider the Ifi Hip Dac 2 because you need a smartphone for the Hidizs anyway. The Hip Dac 2 probably does a better job and runs on both operating systems.
They all need wireless charging too, i leave my old Fiio lying around and it doesn't take long to die unattended, when i font leave it perma plugged in for a week.
Hey Zeus - do you know any one that sells a Pentaconn 4.4mm right angle into a pentaconn 4.4mm. Thanks for your great reviews - I bought the M11 Plus after watching them.
Another thing I don't like about using the phone is that constant media playing kills the battery fast, unless it's plugged in and charging the whole time. Esp in the car.
Is there any DAP out there that only has a USB digital out, you mentioned you have a bunch of dongle DACs, well, I have a lot of them too and I would like a cheap DAP that only outputs digital over USB, so that I can customize it's profile by switching DACs.
Hi Z! I recently purchased some T60rp Argons from Modhouse and was wondering if you could recommend the perfect DAP to pair with it with a great cable. Price range anywhere from £500 - £1500. I have quite a bit of money but would appreciate your tips for the perfect match for my Argons. Let me know. Love your videos! Chris
A DAP will always sound better then a phone, doesnt matter what you do with dongle dacs, because you must live with the Android stack in the middle or equivilent on IOS, pit it this way, the Hidisz sounds better then a dongle dac of twice the price. MSEB is an AI parametric EQ that translates your preference into the proper settings and filters that you would mostly not know how to use on an actual professional parametric eq, not being a studio sound engineer.
A lot of people would be better off with a used LG v60 or G8X or G7 or v40 or something. You can get them for a hundred bucks these days. Don't put a SIM card in it, just use it as dap. You're going to get a modern version of Android, LDAC, can drive up to 600 ohms, aptx, native EQ, SD card support etc...
More people need to know this. I’ve been using the v50 as my dap purely and it is driving my 6xx and sundara just fine with a -11dB EQ just fine at volume 65/75. A used LG V series is going really cheap these days. They are really good.
Or, LG could get into the DAP market, add play buttons and a balanced output... $289? I find a dedicated player potentially a lot smaller, instead of carrying literally two phones in my pocket.
I have been using my Xduoo X3 for a long time but they had the second generation for a while but it's no longer up for sale anymore which is a let down.
could you please review the jbl nano k8's not a first time viewer by the way your reviews saved me from buying the m50x and buying the sony 7506 and im planning on upgrading to speakers now and the nano k8s are the only 8 inch speakers that are fitting inside my budget and r=other reviews say it is better than the 308mkii's but in the end its your reviews that have my heart thanks for the reviews man really appreciate it !
Zeos: why does most BT stuff have no power at all as far as built-in amps? That's yet another thing I cannot stand about it. The only BT I bought that I love is a BT speaker that has 70 watts left and right per channel. Now THAT sounds great!!
Anyone know if the Fiio M11 Plus (or Pro) sound 'better' than a Fiio X7 mark 2? Or basically the same I know that the UI would be way better anyway, which is why I may want to upgrade.
Exactly what I have. Works very well, lasts long, easy UI, balanced, no issues. Well except it's not recognizing all my meta data for songs/albums. I'll figure that out eventually.
whens the promo in the RD7X ending? hoping to see what other headphone go on sale for drop’s anniversary and purchase it together if there are any other good promos.
Ease of convenience…. Which one can I download apps on Spotify Tidal etc. and listen to high quality audio on my expensive wireless or wired headphones?
I fancy another dap and it's between fiio m11s and ibasso dx170. Can't find a comparison anywhere. Has anyone got an opinion on which is best for sound stage, depth, instrument separation and layering.
Hi! Thank for the video. Do you have a video or post with music recommendation? What music do you usually put on your DAP? I usually put Yoko Kanno or 70's Metal
I want to just buy a refurbished unlocked Samsung Note 9 thing was $1100 new a few years ago and you can get them for $199 refurb directly from amazon now just and use it as a media player. I truely can't come up with a reason this wouldn't function as an exceptional dap.
hello, a strong click is heard in the player DX240 when turned on, is this normal? in other players DX150 DX220 it is not as strong as it is. is this a problem?
I actually think that in daps there is more to really burn in than in headphones. There are capacitors and the burn in process is recommended by manufacturers, like for example Audio Note. Their Audio Note Kaisei capacitors reach their full potential after around 200h according to the company. When it comes to the headphones, i dont believe in a burn in process longer than 20h. Just my 12 cents.
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For iems, how does the m11 compare to the m17?
WTF is a dap? Crappy title. Not watching to find out.
@@filonin2 Digital Audio Player
wallpaper link doesn't work.
I also completely missed that the iBasso has ITS OWN OPERATING SYSTEM that is just the raw music player.. I will re-review that unit with the new amp module in the future. No worries.
First haha
Also where is 16/10
When I use a dap I use it raw ain’t no other way.
yeah I actually need a dap. I use an ear studio but I want a stand alone player after a couple months of use and now I need a dap. this ibasso might be it!
Do I look worried to you? 😃Line from a movie, calm down! Why no Edifiers in your hour long video? Loved it! You didn’t keep them?
After listening to this review and many others about the DX240, I bought it. Your review is my favorite. The DX240 is everything you say it is. It was your review that really brought my attention to the DX240 vs the Fiio, any Astell&Kern player, or any other. If anything ever "happens to it", I would buy this one again in a second.
I've had 4 iBasso DAPs, three were DX200 and one DX160. Two of the DX200s failed with different faults, and thenDX160 lasted 5 days before it stopped allowing me to unlock the screen on bootup. That's a 75% failure rate. I don't care how good they sound, I will never buy another iBasso product.
That's chifi 4 ya. Great sound, great prices, terrible durability/warranty.
I used to love small DAPs just for music, but over the last like 4 years I got used to a huge in comparison screen of a phone that I just can't go back to the smallest DAPs. Like it feels like I'd need a microscope to navigate the thing and reading glasses to see the album art. Which is such a contrast to the effortless presentation of massive, glorious album art and all the information you ever need on a big-screen device. On the other hand, giant players like the M11 or the iBasso lineup are of good size screens, but the weight and thinness.. fk. I do not want to carry a brick. I don't care how good the music sounds, that's just insane. If I want the best of the best sound I'd listen on my home setup with all the giaat amps and dacs and the like. Portable. As in pocketable, not need-a-truck-to-howl-around.
"haul"
Portable is really defined by how big it is relative to you. Im 6 8" so the m11 feels pretty small. Probably still could not carry a m17, though.
@@enjoshi-godrez8775 68" is pretty short dude.
I love how he’s the most excited about the speaker on a glass spinner
ditch all cell phones.. don't even carry a flip phone. get a portable cassette player, cd player or if you're truly adventurous, a minidisc player. absolutely no laptops, ever.. only use a computer when you're sitting at a desk and when you do that, no 'social media' sites. Life is immediately 100000000000x better.
Will try to do!!
This is especially good advice for neurospicy people!
I love my DX240. It has very natural sound, bit warm and it sounds even better when switched to Mango OS player
I’ve always used DAC’s. However, I recently purchased a current gen DAP outta’ curiosity. I now totally get why people buy them 😉
I’m here in 2024 thinking of buying the FiiO M11 Plus as an Apos cert refurb. I always check out your reviews prior to a purchase!!
Did you buy the fiio? I'm looking to get either the fiio m11 plus or ibasso dx240
@@edwindejesus1573 No, not yet. But the M11 Plus is my top choice so far. Pricing has dropped and Apos’ certification process for their refurbed equipment makes me less apprehensive to purchase with them. I’ll circle back when I pull the trigger!!
Video quality looks so much nicer! :o
Topping DX5 Z-review incoming?
Love the looks, couldn't choose between the EX5 and the DX3-Pro+ and then that came out.
Don’t Be a Menace to South Central While Drinking Your Juice in the Hood
That's a movie I haven't thought of in quite some time.
I put my phone in the pocket you said no one uses... and/or my dap
super video. really enjoying the speaker one too.
i'm cool with the 2.5mm balanced on desktop/portable/headphone cable.
it's incredibly fragile though, won't last and costs just as much as 4.4mm
@@terryss95 as far as i've seen a connector being fragile. there are only few. mini hdmi and micro usb. its not the size that makes things fragile. i can dangle my phone off the wall from a 1 ft usb c cable.
Battery life is EVERYTHING on a DAP, that's why I'll stick with the 45hrs of my Sony NW-A45.
Yes! Pure music DAPs (huge battery) vs streaming DAPs (not). My Hiby R3 Pro lasts a good long while too.
I just ordered the AP80 Pro coming tomorrow at $100 on Amazon. A. DAPs usually sound far superior to the phones or tablets B. conrol over the collection and C. can use them with wired and/or balanced headphones and just get a superior listening experience. Also battery life, and features. My IPhone 14 is fine for the car but I wouldn't rely on it otherwise for serious music. I also got some AirPod knock off IEMs and they sound fine, but have almost NO power. Plus the DAPs have at least a decent amp
built in. The Bluetooth on the AP80 is just icing on the cake, as I doubt I'll even use it that much.
Are you sure you ordered the right thing? I just checked and the closest thing to a hundred bucks is the DH80S at $109 but it's a DAC/amp not a DAP.
@@spamcan9208 I found a deal one on Amazon, refurb or repacked, not sure. Well, I ended up returning it, only because it had trouble finding a ton of newer .wav music on my transferred SD card, I'm not sure why. I tried everything to get it to do so, it just wouldn't. The player seemed good, if a bit tiny. I ended up going a different way.
Being new to audiophilia and slowly learning. Daily drivers are Audeze Isine 20, Qudelix 5k attached to the monoprice monolith portable dac amp. Just bluetooth from my phone on amazon music. Its a start and as newbie as i am, its amazing. Just waiting on a Modhouse Argon mk3 and then Audeze lcdx cuz i love America. Then just need to round up on a home system for gaming and music.
Aannndd now I know what I want. Thanks for reviewing these!
With the Ap80pro-x player, I can say that it runs well on Android systems and is stable if you want to stream it with your smartphone.
Via cable as well as Bluetooth, but with Apple I can't recommend it.
With Apple, only Bluetooth with the neutered SBC mode works, which is really disappointing.
And with cable to connect an Apple device, the player crashes, interrupts the playback, so it doesn't work.
Which is a real shame otherwise it would have been a pretty good player if both worked equally.
Also the Kamaeraadt adapter doesn't work, I tried it and decided to return it.
Hidizs didn't give me the impression that they were going to fix it with a firmware update.
So I can say for Android devices it's okay but for Apple devices it's not.
At this price you have to say that you should consider the Ifi Hip Dac 2 because you need a smartphone for the Hidizs anyway. The Hip Dac 2 probably does a better job and runs on both operating systems.
The white Roccat Kova looks great, i am rocking a grey one. Good mice overall
They all need wireless charging too, i leave my old Fiio lying around and it doesn't take long to die unattended, when i font leave it perma plugged in for a week.
Hey Zeus - do you know any one that sells a Pentaconn 4.4mm right angle into a pentaconn 4.4mm. Thanks for your great reviews - I bought the M11 Plus after watching them.
Now THAT'S some video production my friend! Great review too! 😉👌🎼💯🔥
You are a great audio tech guy. Even lowly me have a 4.4 to 2.5 adapter. So that's not a negative at all lol
Tiny menus are still hard to see :( perhaps you could get a cheap fresnel lens / magnifying glass? Would be funny if nothing else.
Another thing I don't like about using the phone is that constant media playing kills the battery fast, unless it's plugged in and charging the whole time. Esp in the car.
Is there any DAP out there that only has a USB digital out, you mentioned you have a bunch of dongle DACs, well, I have a lot of them too and I would like a cheap DAP that only outputs digital over USB, so that I can customize it's profile by switching DACs.
Hi Z! I recently purchased some T60rp Argons from Modhouse and was wondering if you could recommend the perfect DAP to pair with it with a great cable. Price range anywhere from £500 - £1500. I have quite a bit of money but would appreciate your tips for the perfect match for my Argons. Let me know. Love your videos! Chris
Your videos are very informative. Factual.
A DAP will always sound better then a phone, doesnt matter what you do with dongle dacs, because you must live with the Android stack in the middle or equivilent on IOS, pit it this way, the Hidisz sounds better then a dongle dac of twice the price. MSEB is an AI parametric EQ that translates your preference into the proper settings and filters that you would mostly not know how to use on an actual professional parametric eq, not being a studio sound engineer.
5:43 damn, that scared me!
A lot of people would be better off with a used LG v60 or G8X or G7 or v40 or something. You can get them for a hundred bucks these days. Don't put a SIM card in it, just use it as dap. You're going to get a modern version of Android, LDAC, can drive up to 600 ohms, aptx, native EQ, SD card support etc...
How about a Galaxy A10e (no SIM + 400GB SDXC) feeding a Ikko Zerda? GMTA.
More people need to know this. I’ve been using the v50 as my dap purely and it is driving my 6xx and sundara just fine with a -11dB EQ just fine at volume 65/75.
A used LG V series is going really cheap these days. They are really good.
Or, LG could get into the DAP market, add play buttons and a balanced output... $289? I find a dedicated player potentially a lot smaller, instead of carrying literally two phones in my pocket.
Can't agree more, though only Darko covered the LG phone as an HiFi DAP. The rest are totally oblivious. A new LG DAP will definitely be a buy for me.
Using lgv40. Bought once ibasso dx240. Returned it after listening few songs. No difference with my cheap LG v40
I have an old Sony C something cellphone as my dap. I want a new true dap with a really good battery life, good storage and can be used as a dac/amp
I have been using my Xduoo X3 for a long time but they had the second generation for a while but it's no longer up for sale anymore which is a let down.
Wait wait wait, THE Triangle? Holy shit! Congrats.
could you please review the jbl nano k8's
not a first time viewer by the way your reviews saved me from buying the m50x and buying the sony 7506 and im planning on upgrading to speakers now and the nano k8s are the only 8 inch speakers that are fitting inside my budget and r=other reviews say it is better than the 308mkii's but in the end its your reviews that have my heart
thanks for the reviews man really appreciate it !
Zeos: why does most BT stuff have no power at all as far as built-in amps? That's yet another thing I cannot stand about it. The only BT I bought that I love
is a BT speaker that has 70 watts left and right per channel. Now THAT sounds great!!
Does the AP80 allow for digital audio coaxial output?
An IPod gen 5.5 w/ rockbox with the SDCard mod (1tb+) with everything on it is still the best imho.
Lmao that interchangeable amp module is a money making scheme 🤣 I'll stick with my WM1A thank you very much lole
Well the drop test did it for me. I’ll have the iBasso please.
Anyone know if the Fiio M11 Plus (or Pro) sound 'better' than a Fiio X7 mark 2? Or basically the same
I know that the UI would be way better anyway, which is why I may want to upgrade.
Nice hiby r3pro!
Exactly what I have. Works very well, lasts long, easy UI, balanced, no issues. Well except it's not recognizing all my meta data for songs/albums. I'll figure that out eventually.
whens the promo in the RD7X ending? hoping to see what other headphone go on sale for drop’s anniversary and purchase it together if there are any other good promos.
Ease of convenience…. Which one can I download apps on Spotify Tidal etc. and listen to high quality audio on my expensive wireless or wired headphones?
And the new Mojo2 audio comparison?😉
Does the AP80 Pro-X cut off the first fraction of the track you start playing, like the other Hiby OS products do?
hi zeos. is questyle qpr2 any good compared to fiio m11 plus?
you should charge tickets for people to go and visit the Audio Museum that is your house.
would anyone happen to know how the dx240 compares to the shanling m7/ m8 or the new dx320 ?
Hidisz AP80 Pro-X tem acesso aos streamings como tidal?
I fancy another dap and it's between fiio m11s and ibasso dx170. Can't find a comparison anywhere. Has anyone got an opinion on which is best for sound stage, depth, instrument separation and layering.
How does dx300 compare to dx240?
Is the previously reviewed Lotoo PAW 6000 still relevant?
i literally just use the fiio m11 plus as my phone now
only downside is the mic bullox and the fact that the codex stuff required for calling is shafted so that means no discord calls or online app calling
theres apps for rotating the screen sideways for movies and anime and theres nova launcher for fixing the ui to your liking
works fantastic [yo it also can play Ds games]
🔥NTH 100s with Periodic audio Rhodium dongle , on the way.
If you have an audioquest dragonfly red DAC is the M11 plus ESS a huge jump or not really
Hi! Thank for the video. Do you have a video or post with music recommendation? What music do you usually put on your DAP? I usually put Yoko Kanno or 70's Metal
Have you ever tried an iPod classic work modded storage, through an amp vía the line out???
I want to just buy a refurbished unlocked Samsung Note 9 thing was $1100 new a few years ago and you can get them for $199 refurb directly from amazon now just and use it as a media player.
I truely can't come up with a reason this wouldn't function as an exceptional dap.
hello, a strong click is heard in the player DX240 when turned on, is this normal? in other players DX150 DX220 it is not as strong as it is. is this a problem?
I have an old iPod 256gb player and I want to replace
All living person is waiting for your fh9 review...just saying xD
Can you do a more budget friendly DAP.
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3:2 > 4:3 > 16:9
1:1
Hifimans for under a Benjamin? Just take my money!
Nothing wrong with ess dap's, but I have like 10. Give me thx or akm.
I truely believe in amplifier burn in lol.
Sony's dap even has a guide on how to burn them in.
A VIVO X51.....
If it takes you 35s to take out the blade of a swiss army knife you have serious brain damage.
weep
More views from the bobble-head. 🙂
I didn't believe in wire burn in until I experienced it first hand with AudioQuest cinnamon. But its real.......
How did you experience it? I mean if it's just trusting your ears,, it's hard to put too much stock in one anecdotal example.
DId you compare it blindly to another unit without the burn in?
Can you tell me if downloading illegal music files onto a dap impacts the software at all?
Doubt it
facepalm
Wallpaper links don't fuckinn work
I actually think that in daps there is more to really burn in than in headphones. There are capacitors and the burn in process is recommended by manufacturers, like for example Audio Note. Their Audio Note Kaisei capacitors reach their full potential after around 200h according to the company. When it comes to the headphones, i dont believe in a burn in process longer than 20h. Just my 12 cents.
Currently burning in my new cables built with rare minerals(you won't have heard of them) from a child labor force in the Congo. The difference after 400 hours is outstanding. My wife can hear the difference from the kitchen! I'm telling you, the chocolatey midrange is something to behold.
@@Jon-nz3dm a child labor force in the congo ? hahaha you trippy cnt
I have no idea what the video is about.
No everyone needs an intro
but this guy has no explanation
No
after the claim that Hidizs sounds like a desktop unit I stopped watching
M11?
naw its M17 now (even though the M11 looks better)
Nah
I'm getting sick of my generation and why we MUST use as many aberrations as possible. W T F is a *dap*