In-depth Roland TD-1K review | Features + Performance

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  • Опубліковано 12 лис 2024

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  • @NickLeonard
    @NickLeonard  2 роки тому +1

    Do you own an electronic drum kit? What do you think of them?

    • @NickLeonard
      @NickLeonard  Рік тому

      @Robert Xavier The TD-1k is pretty great, only major downside is kick "drum" pedal. I wish I knew of a game like that, but no, I only use it to record drum tracks!

    • @ianhinrichsendrummer2113
      @ianhinrichsendrummer2113 Рік тому

      Yes, I do. A Roland TD11KV, and I'll honestly never go back to acoustics - bang, smash, crash and going deaf too. To me it's all about sound quality - I want my drums to sound like the drums sound on a recording - with acoustics live this is almost impossible without good mics and a good techie, but then it's even louder than before. So I just gave up with them - never to return. Good edrums sound just like the drums you hear on a record and that's the deal breaker for me. Acoustics (especially the 2nd and floor tom) have this hideous DONG sound so you have to work out ways to muffle them - not impossible. I can literally carry my entire kit, put it in the car, go to a gig, plug it in and the sound guy is grinning from ear to ear - no mics, no eq-ing, no tons of cables - 2 guitar cables into the mixer - studio quality stereo sound. (and I can wacky the hell out of them!) 😊
      But ea to their own. Some guys will never touch edrums coz it's not "real". The way things are going, within a few years /decades I think acoustics will almost be extinct, only a matter of time. My music store manager was telling me the other day that edrums now make up 75% of their drum sales now. Even Ian Paice has 2 Roland kits 😊

    • @ianhinrichsendrummer2113
      @ianhinrichsendrummer2113 Рік тому

      @@NickLeonard I bought a TD - 1K last week 2nd hand, but I'm very dissapointed - the kits are terrible. The toms have huge amounts of ring and there's no muffling option. In fact you can't even build a custom kit as there are some usable sounds on the module. I find kit 3 and 10 are ok, but I wouldn't even use it for a band practice as it just sounds terrible. BUT, it is an entry level kit, and you do get an extra cymbal cable, and chokable cymbals. The vintage TD - 3 is a much better option sound wise and you also have a 2nd crash trigger option.
      What I do with my TD1, is I use my iPad which has DRUMS XD and Drum Session, and I use that via usb. I use my TD11KV s bass drum pedal and trigger and the KD-9 Hihat pedal and it's a lot better. Still not sure if I want to keep it though.

    • @NickLeonard
      @NickLeonard  Рік тому

      @@ianhinrichsendrummer2113 I agree that the module sucks, that's why I only ever use it for triggering software drums as I did here. I played with the kits for a few minutes once and never again. At this point, I've got such a frankenkit. TD-4 module (still for software, but better control) upgraded snare, extra cymbal, FD-8 hihat and a DIY kick drum!
      I also picked it up used for $250 so I can't complain. Pads and cymbals are good and the module was okay for software but not great.

    • @ianhinrichsendrummer2113
      @ianhinrichsendrummer2113 Рік тому

      @@NickLeonard Awesome! Yes, I often thought that it was the module AND the pads, but wen using software the rubber pads are still "ok". Good cymbals as you say. The TD4 modules not bad, I find. 👍🏻

  • @BomberSteve
    @BomberSteve 2 роки тому +3

    i recently picked up one of these and got back into drumming...didnt take long and I have upgraded the kick pedal to a pearl kick with the roland KD-10 kick pad. The difference is amazing. For me and my current place in drumming skills, it is now an awesome kit to learn on. the high hat pedal is still rubbish but for me at the moment it is ok and will do the job. great review mate

    • @NickLeonard
      @NickLeonard  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks! Glad to hear you're enjoying it. I practice a lot more than I ever did with my acoustic kit

  • @stevechristopher4123
    @stevechristopher4123 2 роки тому +1

    I bought this used to get back into drumming. For me the module sounds great since I’m not gigging with it. Simply learning skills and jamming at home. I live in a townhome and the size and quiet is perfect. Small kit with big sound that is deceiving given the size. I’m getting by with original kick and Hi hat controller but takes getting used to. It’s simple, sounds good and is fun. And it’s Roland.

  • @Mr4Strings
    @Mr4Strings Рік тому +2

    Damn, what a thorough and intelligent review!!! Wow. The kit overall sounds OK, it's the hi-hat that concerns me.

    • @NickLeonard
      @NickLeonard  Рік тому

      Thanks! The hihat isn't great, but it is passable. I did upgrade it with a used FD-8 eventually, which has the same sensor, but a heavier build and that helps - its still not perfect. I hear the new Roland flagship hihat is great, but at 1500...won't be anytime soon for me.
      I did also upgrade to a mesh snare and a TD4 module which gives more precise triggering. All in, about $625 since I bought everything used.

    • @Mr4Strings
      @Mr4Strings Рік тому

      Hey thanks for the reply. So many UA-camrs say don't forget to comment but they very rarely reply. I don't know when you posted that vid, but I have seen some reviews where the hi-hat sounds really good. Problem is a lot of the instrument reviews come from music retailers so what are they going to say? They might even edit the sounds. They never even review anything that they don't sell so how can you expect an unbiased review. Not in a hurry here but 2nd hand I see the Rolan for around $200. I kinda like the Yamaha TDX400 and 402 a little better than the Roland. We'll see. Thanks again. Again, a really great review of the Roland kit.@@NickLeonard

    • @NickLeonard
      @NickLeonard  Рік тому

      @@Mr4Strings I haven't played yamaha kits, roland are certainly more popular, but the most expensive.
      As I mentioned here, I'm not using the stock sounds of rhe module at all (I don't like them) since that's not what I use it for. Drum plugins are so far ahead of what's in any module except the pearl mimic, which uses steven slate drums, which I'm using here too haha
      I try not to be overly negative in my reviews, but it's most important to be honest with the audience. Most companies are willing to take criticism in a review, and if they aren't, they should just go make an ad...
      This video, and many others of mine, were just things I bought for my own use, so I bought them because I liked them, but can say whatever I want!

  • @docgerbil1956
    @docgerbil1956 2 роки тому +2

    Heavily considering this kit because its all I really have space for thanks for the honest review! Also I really appreciate the measurements its gonna be tight but I think I can make it work. Haven't played in almost 15 years looking forward to coming back!

    • @NickLeonard
      @NickLeonard  2 роки тому +1

      Good luck, I hope it works out! I was in the same position wondering if I had room and couldn't find the measurements either, so someone had to put them out haha
      There's not much out there that's more compact. Probably the biggest flaw is the module, it does the job just fine, but it's nothing amazing - that can always be upgraded though! I like the stand design, though I occasionally get a cymbal triggering a tom if I hit them really hard, so I've put the hat and one of the cymbals on individual stands to fix that, but it may not be an issue for everyone.

  • @EasyHeat
    @EasyHeat Рік тому

    Just bought an old TD-6 module for a DIY "A to E" conversion I'm doing on my old 90's era Mars Series Mapex shell pack for a whopping $150 free shipping!
    I also kinda splurged on a tiny Roland HD-1 module ($50) and some weird Chinese knock off "Vangoa" brand VED B100 module ($40)
    BTW!
    The Lemon brand e-cymbals are freaking amazing for the price IMO!
    I've got two 13" (one triple zone/one dual) right now, but am looking at getting a 15" dual z and 18" triple z ASAP.
    Love your content my dude!
    Cheers!

  • @ricardoluciosuarez8871
    @ricardoluciosuarez8871 Рік тому

    really great review!!! great job!!!

  • @opwave79
    @opwave79 2 роки тому

    Excellent insight. I appreciate your honest insight. I’m thinking of buying this to learn on, and maybe later record some drum tracks.

  • @MiladKhaldar-o7k
    @MiladKhaldar-o7k 2 місяці тому

    Hello. Can I do the following with the TD-1K connected to my laptop?
    Can I customize the sound of each pad for live performance? (Recording is not important to me).
    If the answer is yes, do I need an audio interface to ensure sound is played without delay from the laptop’s output? (The quality of the output sound is not very important to me).
    There aren't many sounds predefined in the module. Can I use computer software to play more samples and sounds?
    Can I later add another kick to the module for double kick performance?

  • @kanye8409
    @kanye8409 Рік тому

    amazing review. thanks!

  • @silasnofx
    @silasnofx 10 місяців тому

    thank you so much for this video

  • @JRyMeRr
    @JRyMeRr 6 місяців тому

    I don't expect you to make another video but I have the tdmk only difference is the mesh Tom's each Tom also being dual triggered is there a way to midi map the Tom rims ad a different sample and if so is the procedure the same as what you did for the chokes on ur cymbals

    • @NickLeonard
      @NickLeonard  6 місяців тому

      Unless they changed the module and wiring harness, there won't be enough inputs on that for the rims to be picked up separately. You can tell by checking if the plugs are stereo (TRS) or mono (TS). A stereo plug can handle two triggers like the dual zone cymbals. The cymbal chokes work like an aftertouch sensor I think, so that's why they're a little different in some software.
      If you only play to PC with software, I recently got an Edrumin module and it's really good. Will have a video coming on that.

    • @JRyMeRr
      @JRyMeRr 6 місяців тому

      Can you try and make a video on how to make map the hihat open closed and in-between or just explain the easiest single open to single close procedure outcome

    • @NickLeonard
      @NickLeonard  6 місяців тому

      @@JRyMeRr I assume you're talking about mapping in software. That really depends and it can be very easy or a pain. Ideally, you just map the pedal itself, that's a CC, and then open hat, and the rest should take care of itself. Some software requires a bit more effort though, so it all depends. There isn't one procedure for all, you have to mess around. Most have midi learn though and that helps a lot.

  • @nickpaunovic8157
    @nickpaunovic8157 2 роки тому

    Wicked video. Thinking of buying this kit tomorrow. I would upgrade to a kick tower, but unfortunately my downstairs neighbors probably wouldn't love me for that ...

    • @NickLeonard
      @NickLeonard  2 роки тому +1

      The stock one isn't great but it is quiet at least. They have an upgraded weighted silent kick and you can isolate with a rubber mat

    • @nickpaunovic8157
      @nickpaunovic8157 2 роки тому

      @@NickLeonard I'm not so fussed on the kick drum for now, I'm more leaning towards a space saving kit for this apartment which i can play on and record. I'm living in Croatia currently and my old acoustic kit is back in New Zealand 😭
      The kit is really only for practicing and recording purposes. I will upgrade to a mesh snare and proper kick later i suppose. Overall, are you pretty satisfied with the roland td1k?

    • @NickLeonard
      @NickLeonard  2 роки тому +1

      @@nickpaunovic8157 I think it's great, overall. The module could do with some better settings and the mesh snare is a worthy upgrade, but if you can get a good price on it, even stock, it's a nice kit. I don't think I'll be feeling the need to upgrade for a while

    • @nickpaunovic8157
      @nickpaunovic8157 2 роки тому +1

      @@NickLeonard that's great to hear. I'm pretty sure I'll be purchasing this kit tomorrow! The fact that I can Always upgrade/add on to the roland td1k is reassuring. I have watched enough video's ( including yours, ofcourse ) to see that even the base sounds that come with the module sound better than a lot of the other kit's marketed at the same or near price.

    • @NickLeonard
      @NickLeonard  2 роки тому

      @@nickpaunovic8157 durability I what puts it ahead of kits from Alesis, even if they might feel better with mesh. The stock sounds are better too from what I hear, though I would always recommend using software (I use slate drums mostly) for recording, plus you have Midi you can edit after. My latest video has a demo with this kit and SSD5.5 drums

  • @gnm280
    @gnm280 Рік тому

    Hey, I have the same roland td-1k with the defaults ride and crash plate. What is the name of the third plate for this drum set?

  • @TheLadsBandLive
    @TheLadsBandLive 2 роки тому

    Very nice review. Sweetwater has these on their Black Friday sale ATM for just under 500. I'm tempted. How loud are the pads acoustically?

    • @NickLeonard
      @NickLeonard  2 роки тому +1

      I think when I tested the dB near the kit it was around 65 or 70, but that's mostly the loudest transient, they obviously have to sustain. The rubber pads are slightly quieter than my practice pad. Mesh are quieter, but an all mesh kit will still have rubber cymbals

    • @TheLadsBandLive
      @TheLadsBandLive 2 роки тому

      @@NickLeonard Nice. As a longtime guitarist (and frustrated drummer), if I pickup this kit it will be my first. I'll definitely upgrade the snare, at least.

    • @NickLeonard
      @NickLeonard  2 роки тому +1

      @@TheLadsBandLive I would upgrade the kick first, snare second, unless you happen to like the feel of the kick, but that's the weak point I feel

    • @TheLadsBandLive
      @TheLadsBandLive 2 роки тому +1

      @@NickLeonard Ah. Okay. I'll get both. Thank you for the advice.

  • @PillowheadCreations
    @PillowheadCreations Рік тому

    you have a video for your kit tower?

    • @NickLeonard
      @NickLeonard  Рік тому

      Yes.
      ua-cam.com/video/D9h5cJtvAss/v-deo.html

  • @napdrums
    @napdrums 2 роки тому

    Hey again! I bought the td1k and it's pretty sweet! Would you recommend changing the sensitivity of the basic snare pad to a little higher? I intend to upgrade to a mesh snare later, but for now, would it be advisable to adjust the snare sensitivity? It feels quite 'flat' and doesn't pick up all the rolls as much as i would like it to.

    • @NickLeonard
      @NickLeonard  2 роки тому +1

      Yes, its a matter of personal preference, but I played around with mine a lot to find the sweet spot. Can't hurt!

    • @napdrums
      @napdrums 2 роки тому +1

      @@NickLeonard I'll mess around with the values when i get home then! For me, the toms are mostly fine, but the hi hat and snare need some improvements for sure.

    • @nickpaunovic8157
      @nickpaunovic8157 2 роки тому

      @@NickLeonard sorry to bother you again, but I'm just having some issues trying to figure out why the choke doesn't work on the cymbals in garage band via Midi. I see that all the other drums ( toms, snare etc ) all have assigned by number's to them when i hit them on the module, but when i choke the cymbals theres no response on the module for numbers. Is it possible to get a choke by using garage band? Or is choke only possible using the basic module? Thanks for your time !

    • @NickLeonard
      @NickLeonard  2 роки тому +1

      @@nickpaunovic8157 did you try the method I showed in my video on chokes? That's the only way I figured out, but it should work fine in garage band. If you're on Mac, I haven't tested it there, but worth a shot

    • @nickpaunovic8157
      @nickpaunovic8157 2 роки тому

      @@NickLeonard yes! Awesome. Thank you! I have one last question if you don't mind..
      Would you by chance know how i could record simple drum covers using only my android phone as the camera? I would also only be using the drum module sounds ( no laptop programs for midi or anything like that )

  • @bryanz5904
    @bryanz5904 2 роки тому

    Hi, may I ask, does it possible to take and move? I always relocate to different cities.

    • @NickLeonard
      @NickLeonard  2 роки тому +1

      Yeah it folds up pretty compact and it's easy to setup. Better for travel than most e-kits. I bought it used and it was easy to throw in my trunk and set it up

  • @elomgoka9282
    @elomgoka9282 2 роки тому

    Great review! What height is your snare drum at ? I'm also 5'11 but i sit kind of high on my drum throne so just want to make sure the height of the kit will work for me. I think it should

    • @NickLeonard
      @NickLeonard  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks! My snare is about 2' high, I'll adjust it a little here and there but it has plenty of room to go higher or lower

    • @elomgoka9282
      @elomgoka9282 2 роки тому

      @@NickLeonard thank you!

  • @cikibiu7209
    @cikibiu7209 2 роки тому

    Hey is it possible to change the midi map of tom 2 to be a cymbal without using vst/daw (only using the own module) ?

    • @NickLeonard
      @NickLeonard  2 роки тому

      You can change the MIDI note output within the module, however, I'm not sure if the sound from the module can be changed, it's mostly for changing the midi notes for use with vst software.

    • @cikibiu7209
      @cikibiu7209 2 роки тому

      @@NickLeonard and one more question sir, i use roland pcy8 to be an extra cymbal, i use ez drummer software, why the sound out put become the choke? Even i change the midi map to crash, splash, or china, its always become choke 🙏

    • @NickLeonard
      @NickLeonard  2 роки тому

      @@cikibiu7209 you can either remap the module or EZdrummer mapping. If that doesn't work, check out my video about fixing chokes, it's not exactly your problem, but that software may help you fix it!

    • @cikibiu7209
      @cikibiu7209 2 роки тому

      @@NickLeonard thank you sir

  • @andybratt6022
    @andybratt6022 5 місяців тому

    My son has this kit. Hi hat is the weak point for sure. If the hi hat rubber trigger gets stiff, you can put it in boiling water and it'll soften right up again. Worked for his but the hi hat still sorta sucks.

  • @Dozereyes
    @Dozereyes 7 місяців тому +1

    Man don’t mean to sound like a dick but, this has nothing to do with the kit. You are using a VST. That an easy $300 for software and a pc or Mac to run it min $1000, why not just buy a decent module.

    • @NickLeonard
      @NickLeonard  7 місяців тому

      This video is more about the kit itself than the module, yes. you can get Slate drums free, and the full version is on sale every so often for $100. A Pearl Mimic, which uses Slate drums is $2500. All you need is a PC capable of running a drum plugin and that won't cost $1000, it's mostly about cpu power.
      Besides, I'm just a guy showing what I've done to it and how I use it, there are official videos from Roland and plenty others showing off the module sounds (they're not very good)

  • @jackcooper2384
    @jackcooper2384 Рік тому +1

    That hi hat pedal... That is worst thing ever. But you can buy hi hat pedal upgrade i fixed this like that

    • @NickLeonard
      @NickLeonard  Рік тому

      Yeah I hate it. What did you buy to replace it?

    • @jackcooper2384
      @jackcooper2384 Рік тому

      @@NickLeonard roland fd8.. same mechanism i think but design makes different. It dont makes you feel lack of contact. Dont misses hihat opening. So its good

    • @NickLeonard
      @NickLeonard  Рік тому

      @@jackcooper2384 thanks! I'll check that out

    • @berlinshoegazer
      @berlinshoegazer Рік тому

      @@NickLeonard Hey Nick, great videos! Without you I would never have discovered the secrets behind holding the metronome knob. :) Very helpful for my midi mapping. Anyways.. I bought a cheap hihat stand for 10 bugs used (it was even black and looks cool) I added a Roland VH-11 hihat controler and simply mounted the standard hihat cymbal pad of the TD-1K on top ...and now it feels exacly like playing a real drum kit. Perfect response of the open hihats - even the up and down movement of the hihat gives you a little extra feel. It's so addictive. It was about 110 bugs extra, but worth the update.

    • @NickLeonard
      @NickLeonard  Рік тому +1

      @@berlinshoegazer awesome, sounds like a good upgrade! Love your videos too, been following you for a while 😉

  • @MiladKhaldar-o7k
    @MiladKhaldar-o7k 2 місяці тому

    Hello. Can I do the following with the TD-1K connected to my laptop?
    Can I customize the sound of each pad for live performance? (Recording is not important to me).
    If the answer is yes, do I need an audio interface to ensure sound is played without delay from the laptop’s output? (The quality of the output sound is not very important to me).
    There aren't many sounds predefined in the module. Can I use computer software to play more samples and sounds?
    Can I later add another kick to the module for double kick performance?

    • @NickLeonard
      @NickLeonard  2 місяці тому

      yes, recording or not, it's the same. you want an audio interface for latency, though it doesn't need to be a fancy one. your computer will also need to be fast enough for the software, but then you can use any sample or VST instrument you want. I run everything through my DAW (Reaper) and that's how I play and record all the time. For a double kick, you can add another pedal and use the extra crash 2 cable, and re-map that to the kick note, or get a kick tower and a real double kick pedal, which is better.