Sorry for not being more clear about this but I was only scaling Lego Batman from the video game trilogy, not his Lego movie counterpart. When I talked about his relativity to certain master builders, I was talking about his showings in Lego dimensions. Where he’s shown teaming up with and being on par with Wyldstyle and Gandalf the grey.
Imo You should've edited Batman (Earth-0 or Mainstream DC Comic Universe or Infinite Frontier) instead of (New 52 & Rebirth). His new earth version and new 52 version have merged stacking the priors feats on the current batman and also accounting for dr manhattan restoring some of the damage he made to earth-0 history and death metal restoring all of the characters histories and experiences from previous continuities erased by crisises over the decades. Earth-Two pre-crisis, earth-one pre-crisis, new earth and new 52 making the main comic counterpart goated.
Like Bruh e was able to take down a whole army and tanks, high criminals etc in 1 night. Respect to every other adaptations but Arkham Batman is on a top level
The Arkham games each take place in a single night for each game and I'll be straight with you, i can't even find the time to do dishes and do my laundry in a single night much less beat 400 riddler riddles, hunt down a psychopathic doctor in a pig mask, get in to about 300 individual fist fights, get drugged and cleaned up, hunt down an arsonist with a flame spewing jetpack, hunt down a giant bat, investigate the League of Assassins, and beat up my own subconscious in a single fucking night. Arkham Knight Batman is op
@@timotfenyvesi9863my Batman let’s the riddler roam free he’ll get the damn trophies when Gotham isn’t being gassed, turned into a prison, or having it’s most dangerous prison be overrun by the inmates. I’m sorry Catwoman, im sure Edward will wait one more night for me To rescue you
I think he never get hit in ak knight due to him low diff arzel who supposed to copy/mimic batman fight style for years to beat all type of thugs in the games without getting hit once + deadstroke too
i hate when people see batman dodge bullets and assume his reaction speed is faster then bullets. its not a reaction to the gun firing its him pre dodging the shot before they actually shoot
He brought that up in the video. But I agree, I don't think the writers really mean to say that he's moving at bullet or even light speed. It's just whatever looks cool at the moment.
@@elijahshewell1176 studies have been done that show there's barely any difference in the speed necessary to dodge a persons aim, and the actual bullet. The reflexes and timing and speed required for both are equally insane.
@smitefulaxe1344 he did. It just seems like powerscaling hype train to make him be able to do stuff that breaks the whole notion of what is human and inhuman in comics.
Considering the events of Dawn of DC, Infinite Frontier, or whatever we choose to call it, wouldn't his feats encompass all of his comics ever? This is due to the way the universe operates within the omniverse situation, where all stories hold significance.
Kinda dawn of dc and infinite frontier merges all main continuities So golden, silver, bronze/pre crisis, post crisis, new 52 and rebirth all happened. Or rather every character in dc has all the memories experiences and histories of those previous continuities (their bodies are still the chronological age they were when it was rebirth/DCU) The alternate or else world continuities were not blended in So anything that happened in a comic under the Batman series from 1939-2011, 2011-2016 2016- Or detective comics It’s canon
Any Batman (without Superman’s powers or superpowers in general) being faster than light is crazy. I guess humans in some of these places also have that potential if they trained as much and faced as many insane challenges as Batman does.
i just cant understand the batman who laughs. Do people like him or something? He's freaking evil, and theres almost no reason for his evil besides breathing in funny gas one time. most of the comics hes in consist of him flexing his might by killing all my favorite dc heros. You would think this was something liked more by batman haters
where were these writers when spiderman needed them like honestly this too much power for a guy who has no power like the amount of plot armour is insane
sorry but i really just refuse to believe gotham knights is actually canon to Nolan verse. Bales batman wore a stiff rubber suit and threw the same slow powerhooks and overhands 24/7 in every fight (and occasionally those weird looking elbow strikes). He would his expose his whole body constantly and always put his guard up too high, he may as well have had a sign on his chest saying "hit me with a liver shot". Personally i'd day Pattinsons batman is above Bale in tier level. Not only does Pattinson have better combat feats/fight choreography, he also built majority of his equipment/gadgets/batmobile unlike Bale who heavily relied on Fox for everything
Whoa whoa. If batfleck is s tier then arkham batman definitely is. He scales far higher than batfleck, especially with tri weave titanium coated suit…..everything else is facts though
@@WarFox7012 have you ever played arkham knight. You could argue batfleck scales higher than arkham city, origins and asylum version, but the latest version of Arkham batman stomps…badly. But still even in the previous arkham games, Batman’s knowledge and iq is far higher than what we’ve seen from batfleck. Besides, what crazy feats does batfleck have besides beating the WEAKEST superman with kryptonite gas, while superman wasn’t even trying to fight him? Batfleck’s strength is very close to the comics version but I would say arkham Batman’s strength, durability, iq and biq is more comic accurate. And with his fear suit, he is probably faster than comics version. I ask again, have you played arkham knight, are you a fanboy or a hater, or both?
@@AverageGamer67 Good? But that doesn't mean a thing since a 2nd season and a conclusion to the story isn't ever gonna come out cause no one plays this garbage
@@destro3004 i guess theres only so far you can call someone 100% human and still have them performing feats that are borderline superhuman if not superhuman. I know DC has a different standard but even so theres only so far you can stretch human feats.
Id probably consider the arkham batman to be the strongest considering he beats most of his rogues gallery in one night. But im worried in suicide squad he'll be downplayed like peter in spiderman 2
Didn't the Batman Who Laughs conquer the entire dark multiverse in like 2 years or something? I haven't read it since it came out so I don't really remember but I'm pretty sure he did. If he did and I'm not just tweakn' then he's easily way ahead of Arkham Batman. The Darkest Knight is definitely the strongest though so saying Arkham Batman is stronger is kinda goofy
I feel like not using Batman 140 and the scaling presented in the zdarsky run is kinda criminal But based on tech presented and statements I put tdr Batman above most everyone but current comics Bruce Also current Bruce is above Batman who laughs. Who is only equal in skill to a 2017 Batman (he’s more unpredictable and dangerous but they share literal skills) since then Batman’s gone through a lot and while definitely not in his physical prime he’s got a robot hand and his multiple rematches with ghostmaker would have dramatically raised his skill
Most definitely sure it’s the Lego Batman from the video games. Later in the story, joker show up with the mech from Lego Batman 2 in Lego dimension and Batman remembers fighting it. You have him acknowledge moments that only he’s been through in his games.
@@Caspff i misunderstood what you were saying. I understand they are two completely different people but DC comics lego Batman should still be relative to or faster than Wyldstyle.
Bale's Batman got his ass kicked by Bane, and was only Batman in that timeline for like 6 years, I feel like Pattinson's Batman would beat Bale's in a fight
I mean, the speed that radiation, bullets and light travels is hardly relevant to what we see on screen. Battfleck seeing Superman's eyes start glowing red and covering his own face with his gauntlets isn't competing with the speed of a laser, but with the wider context of the situation. Likewise with Brave and the Bold, sure the lasers he's dodging are fast, but if its a continuous beam being shot from a slowly pivoting cannon, it's not the lasers speed to which you would measure Batman's speed, it's how fast the cannon moves. When Terry dodges the radiation globules, radiation travels fast, sure. But those globs weren't, they were travelling about as fast as I can throw a brick. The Omega Beam and Flash stuff are genuine moments of speed, but you can't keep saying batman has a reaction speed 3 million times the speed of light while playing footage of him dodging a laser by running to the right at a normal pace. I mean you can but it'd be silly lol
Using cinematic timing to scale certain feats can definitely be a double edged sword. Even the brave and the bold feat, although I didn’t show the whole scene. There are moments where Batman evades the beams of light from the device while it’s in a stationary position. Even when accounting for the slow pivot of the device, he’d still have to have subrelatvistic to relativistic reactions to dodge those light beams at any capacity from that range. All of these variables is why I didn’t say he was light speed. He falls in the tier below it.
@destro3004 I’m still not sure tbh, cus in most examples he’s still not dodging the laser/bullet from when it begins it’s trajectory to where he is currently standing, that would be Superman/Flash tier speed, he’s diving out of the way when it looks like it’s about to fire, like when a goon lifts his pistol up, or a guy pulls a lever, or when a cannon is facing right at him. Maybe you’re right though, wouldn’t be the first time Bat’s has been written to do something impossible/inhuman simply cus he’s the “goddamn Batman” Sometimes it’s cool tho, I stand by the Omega Beam scene being too cool to throw shade on. Though I will call complete bullshit on the whole -punching a sniper round out of the air- thing, especially when it’s set in the grounded and realistic Nolan-verse
If anything this list has shown me just how much DC has buffed Batman over the years because no human could do any of the things he can do lol and I love it
I've always felt that there should be a variation of Batman that becomes the world's greatest combatant and surpasses Lady Shiva, Richard Dragon, and even more dramatically metahuman combatants like Wonder Woman and Karate Kid. It seems like his naturalistic evolution. It also seems as though this would be a natural extension of his detective skills. He finds some ancient ruins with "dead" martial arts hyrogliphs. (Like how they have dead languages) Batman uses his Bat computer to retro engineer these disciplines, and then engineers a "danger" room to train these disciplines. Martial Arts truly have their own mythos that are ancient. Mastering the animal styles to their full potential unlocks the relative physicality of the associate animal. A Batman that drops all other physical training and totally commits to martial arts mastery, because he discovers that's the key to being naturally superhuman beyond super soldier tier and into Animal tier Superhumans (essentially Vampiric) is through martial arts mastery.
9:07 my guy unironically wrote "0.005 tons small building level" for those who do not know he just said literally everyone watching this video is at least small building level since 0.005 tons is 5kg... You know what I'm fairly confident this video has no calculations or mathmatical evidence and he just threw in random numbers that he thought sounded right or plausible I mean I'm now at 11:44 and he's basically said a bell that probably weighs at least a ton after falling generated 0.014 tons of force meaning it got lighter from falling. I appreciate the effort put into the video regardless of the somewhat unbelievable force calculations. The list still looks pretty accurate despite it, so it doesn't really matter if the numbers are wrong. It has since been clarified the units were tons of tnt and I should've checked the description where the sources are listed.
If you take a look at the description you’ll find that many of the calculations within this video are from Vs battle wiki. So there are a calculations with mathematical backing present in this vid. For example, they labeled the baseline for small building level at 0.005 tons of energy/ TNT in conventional terms.
I'd like to add that Batman in The Flash is not Burtonverse Batman, as he said he'd never heard of Superman, and DC confirmed that Burtonverse Batman lives in the same universe as Donnerverse Superman.
He’s not a normal human by our standards. Peak humans in DC are just built different. Cassandra Cain was literally shown staring down bullets like they were in slow motion. Arkham Batman can take down up to 7 armed men in mere seconds before they can even react to him. Even the concept of aim dodging bullets to the degree that Batman does it is literally impossible in the real world.
It’s funny how insanely powerful supposedly normal people are in comics. “Holy automotive incident Batman, I’ve been hit by a speeding car and only have minor bruises”
The most powerful version of Batman would be a super savant Bruce Wayne losing his parents at the age of 5 and successfully becoming Batman at nearly 20 years old and using synthetic chemicals based on the Lazarus pit. Able to stay a young adult forever. After 40 years of experience he would be nearly impossible to beat
In that instance, yeah. But in that same episode, he was also able to outright dodge the light beams fired from the machine while it was stationary position.
This is an extremely well done and high effort video for a low subscribers youtube channel. And all of them are fr facts. Giving you a sub and a bell Anyways im gonna go cry on how batfleck beats arkham (kill me)
Once kill the justice league drops, I wouldn’t be surprised if Arkham Batman shows better feats than batfleck. He’s been in the league for some time and naturally he would’ve combated these same threats.
I personally think Batman is stronger than Batman but Batman has also shown promise in being close to Batman in terms of feats which means he's not thst far off from Batman
8:38 although his death was horrible his scaling has increased dramatically going from super sonic to ftl+ in 5yrs and being able to one shot king shark a demi god and a superboy level character(waller states that shark can go toe to toe with superman) and react to flash managing to grab flash while he is running, he was clowning on the squad in his cave who were powered by lex corp futuristic tech and powered by a sinestro core battery and only lost to harley's asspull (batman was holding back the entire fight too due to brainiac ordering him to keep them all alive) and the squad collectively agree that it was complete luck that they survived so yeah bro has grown in strength and speed considerably plus he survived a barrage of enhanced mini guns which is crazy, bro is literally the definition of built different
it’s crazy how many stupid people are saying he was nerfed in this game when he’s way stronger. although he offgaurds Shark, off guard Barry after he’s fatigued and damaged, that’s still was stronger than a dude who got pressed by tanks and squads of normals. Also the sinestro batteries don’t amp stats
@@thandoncube920 he didn't off guard barry, barry straight up jumped him how could he be off guarded but yeah the only reason he lost was because he was kinda dumb and playing around with them, about the sinestro batteries we sure it don't amp stats
No one is a master of hunderds of martial arts. If anything martial arts is not real combat. Real fighting doesn't do "Showing off with art". The key word is art. Real fighting is about moving as little as possible to get the result. Someone trained in the army with real CQC will beat a "master" of martial arts. This has been proven over and over. Real combat is not the same as art. The only purpose "showing off" has is catching the enemy off guard. But even then that's IF they fall for the flashy tricks. If they don't then it won't work. Real combat is about thinking outside the box. Watch Kung Fu Panda. Sifu teaches Po with things other then combat. Batman thinks outside the box. You don't have to know everything. Just use your brain and think beyond the narrow viewpoints of others. Something like Karate (the real kind. Not that fake nonsense) is about the state of mind. Flow. Teaching patience. That kind of thing. There is something to learn there. But the lessons are less about combat and more about focus. Learn better focus and you get better in all things. What Batman does is explore everything but he uses his brain to filter out the real lessons instead of the useless crap. And most of what "martial arts" teaches is useless. In terms of real combat situations where people don't play by "the rules". Deathstroke might be one of the few characters that's about as expreinced as Batman is in terms of CQC. Unless it's Arkham Knight. They did him dirty there. Arkham Origins was a great time fighting him though. This makes zero sense if you think about it. How can a CQC vet hold his own but then be reduced to getting taking down in one hit? This isn't Batman being "that good". It's devs not doing enough TLC for Deathstroke and giving him a real fight the players can engage with. Devs (film or game makers. Or comic book writers) can mess things up. And that's an important factor to consider here. As for the speed, it's more about predicting where something will hit and moving before it does. And if the characters are that fast then why aren't they as fast as Superman the rest of the time? Too much of an immersion break if they are that fast. Either they're that fast or they're not. If they are then they can move faster at other times, but they don't. Most of the time Batman seems to move before shots are fired. You see someone raising a gun? I'd be moving already too. The vid even shows that. And if Joker can survive a bell landing on him, why don't bullets bounce off his body? Sometimes it's "looking cool and flashy for the sake of it." It's pretty clear when that happens. To be fair the bell has a big gap inside of it as well. So there is wiggle room there.
It always irks me when people bring up dodging rockets from rocket launchers when they measure it against a real one, despite the fact that they move much slower in most media than IRL.
The main question I had going into this video based on the thumbnail was whether or not Lego Batman would be scaled based on being a Lego size or being human size
See I think Telltale would be higher if you calc put all his speed feats and his crazier feats I’d also note The Batman enduring oil explosions which would be some crazy calcs
Sorry for not being more clear about this but I was only scaling Lego Batman from the video game trilogy, not his Lego movie counterpart. When I talked about his relativity to certain master builders, I was talking about his showings in Lego dimensions. Where he’s shown teaming up with and being on par with Wyldstyle and Gandalf the grey.
Was pretty clear to me 🤷♂️. The clips clearly showed lego video game batman. All good on my end
Will arnet’s Batman is clearly the best Batman ever
Should we really make the Lego Batman “man size”? Cause I mean it is still Lego and should be scaled based of what he is and has. In my opinion 🤷🏿
Lego movie batman is too powerful to put on the list
Imo You should've edited Batman (Earth-0 or Mainstream DC Comic Universe or Infinite Frontier) instead of (New 52 & Rebirth). His new earth version and new 52 version have merged stacking the priors feats on the current batman and also accounting for dr manhattan restoring some of the damage he made to earth-0 history and death metal restoring all of the characters histories and experiences from previous continuities erased by crisises over the decades. Earth-Two pre-crisis, earth-one pre-crisis, new earth and new 52 making the main comic counterpart goated.
Personally, i think Batman is the strongest, but... Batman is a close second.
Nah bro batman beats batman with ease but i agree batman is second
@@amaansheharyar8720 nah bro, batman beats batman, i agree batman beats batman with ease but batman still beats batman ez
You tripping, batman is obviously the weakest
Batman is better
no way man batman is batman. batman can never beat batman
Lego Batman is actually tweaking, he can become a giant version of himself made out of bats
Batman Ninja
I like how the power scale is 95% dependent on the thickness of the walls he’s been thrown through.
Yeah lol
And also he's biase as hell
@@Pat12379 possibly
@@destro3004 no abusltly
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“Lego Batman has the strength of about 18-26 3x2 Lego bricks.”
Seeing arkham bat halfway through the list is actually criminal.
my thoughts exactly
Like Bruh e was able to take down a whole army and tanks, high criminals etc in 1 night. Respect to every other adaptations but Arkham Batman is on a top level
That's just how it is.
Bro he gets stomped by every1 above him ur meat riding atp
@@batguy39 Batman Arkham is top level batman
The Arkham games each take place in a single night for each game and I'll be straight with you, i can't even find the time to do dishes and do my laundry in a single night much less beat 400 riddler riddles, hunt down a psychopathic doctor in a pig mask, get in to about 300 individual fist fights, get drugged and cleaned up, hunt down an arsonist with a flame spewing jetpack, hunt down a giant bat, investigate the League of Assassins, and beat up my own subconscious in a single fucking night. Arkham Knight Batman is op
My batman was trying his augmented reality training for 3 hours so idk how he managed to do all thhese things too
@@timotfenyvesi9863my Batman let’s the riddler roam free he’ll get the damn trophies when Gotham isn’t being gassed, turned into a prison, or having it’s most dangerous prison be overrun by the inmates. I’m sorry Catwoman, im sure Edward will wait one more night for me To rescue you
I think he never get hit in ak knight due to him low diff arzel who supposed to copy/mimic batman fight style for years to beat all type of thugs in the games without getting hit once + deadstroke too
Adam West is the strongest Batman no cap
i hate when people see batman dodge bullets and assume his reaction speed is faster then bullets. its not a reaction to the gun firing its him pre dodging the shot before they actually shoot
He brought that up in the video. But I agree, I don't think the writers really mean to say that he's moving at bullet or even light speed. It's just whatever looks cool at the moment.
@@elijahshewell1176 studies have been done that show there's barely any difference in the speed necessary to dodge a persons aim, and the actual bullet. The reflexes and timing and speed required for both are equally insane.
But he has dodged arfter it was fired even missiles and lasers
@smitefulaxe1344 he did. It just seems like powerscaling hype train to make him be able to do stuff that breaks the whole notion of what is human and inhuman in comics.
WRONG. Batman is a bullet timer, he literally sees bullets in slow motion. It is canon.
Punching a sniper bullet out of the air being a c tier feat is bonkers
Lego Video Game Batman and Lego Movie Batman are different characters, Lego Dimensions has both versions and they do cross paths.
I love how some of his logic is:
His sidekicks and villains survived this attack and pulled of these insane moves, so if they can do it he can do it 😂
Considering the events of Dawn of DC, Infinite Frontier, or whatever we choose to call it, wouldn't his feats encompass all of his comics ever? This is due to the way the universe operates within the omniverse situation, where all stories hold significance.
That’s unfortunately something I didn’t even take into account ngl 💀
@@destro3004 Its kinda forgotten because of all the "normal" reboots instead of what we got currently
Kinda dawn of dc and infinite frontier merges all main continuities
So golden, silver, bronze/pre crisis, post crisis, new 52 and rebirth all happened. Or rather every character in dc has all the memories experiences and histories of those previous continuities (their bodies are still the chronological age they were when it was rebirth/DCU)
The alternate or else world continuities were not blended in
So anything that happened in a comic under the Batman series from 1939-2011, 2011-2016 2016-
Or detective comics
It’s canon
Dcamu may not be as strong as the others, but he’s got the gadgets and much better fighting skill than a lot of these
Any Batman (without Superman’s powers or superpowers in general) being faster than light is crazy. I guess humans in some of these places also have that potential if they trained as much and faced as many insane challenges as Batman does.
Arkham Batman has the best endurance of them all. Fighting all his rogues and extras in one night is possible but he has to go non stop.
Haven't watched this video yet but lego batman punches so hard people explode so he better be high up on the list
None of these batmen are ftl lmao stop the cap, it’s just plot armor
i just cant understand the batman who laughs. Do people like him or something? He's freaking evil, and theres almost no reason for his evil besides breathing in funny gas one time. most of the comics hes in consist of him flexing his might by killing all my favorite dc heros. You would think this was something liked more by batman haters
where were these writers when spiderman needed them like honestly this too much power for a guy who has no power like the amount of plot armour is insane
I think the telltale one should be a bit higher since he was able to defeat Joker, Freeze, Harley and Bane wearing nothing more than a leather jacket
He all right about them
Thanks man
sorry but i really just refuse to believe gotham knights is actually canon to Nolan verse. Bales batman wore a stiff rubber suit and threw the same slow powerhooks and overhands 24/7 in every fight (and occasionally those weird looking elbow strikes). He would his expose his whole body constantly and always put his guard up too high, he may as well have had a sign on his chest saying "hit me with a liver shot". Personally i'd day Pattinsons batman is above Bale in tier level. Not only does Pattinson have better combat feats/fight choreography, he also built majority of his equipment/gadgets/batmobile unlike Bale who heavily relied on Fox for everything
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This list was irrelevant as soon as he didn't put arkham batman in s tier
I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks Baleman looks like he can’t fight.
@@fissilewhistle honestly wouldn't have mind that he couldn't fight if at least the choreography looked cool
But it was just ass
the robbert pattison batman seems more realistic than other batmans
Nah he’s just young and hasn’t had as much prep time as all the others have
Whoa whoa. If batfleck is s tier then arkham batman definitely is. He scales far higher than batfleck, especially with tri weave titanium coated suit…..everything else is facts though
Not really. Batfleck scaling is higher. It makes no sense how he can do the stuff he can do, but he can.
@@WarFox7012 have you ever played arkham knight. You could argue batfleck scales higher than arkham city, origins and asylum version, but the latest version of Arkham batman stomps…badly. But still even in the previous arkham games, Batman’s knowledge and iq is far higher than what we’ve seen from batfleck. Besides, what crazy feats does batfleck have besides beating the WEAKEST superman with kryptonite gas, while superman wasn’t even trying to fight him? Batfleck’s strength is very close to the comics version but I would say arkham Batman’s strength, durability, iq and biq is more comic accurate. And with his fear suit, he is probably faster than comics version. I ask again, have you played arkham knight, are you a fanboy or a hater, or both?
@@NormanOsbornMSF iq maybe, knowledge definitely not.
@@WarFox7012 ok. That still doesn’t counter my argument though 😂
@@NormanOsbornMSF im not trying to. What your saying makes no sense, and is just wrong. So I don’t see a reason to try to.
My favorite is DC batman ngl, arkham batman comin at a close second for me regarding my like for them not strength
Those two and the 2004 Batman are tied at #1 for me
The devil may cry soundtrack goes hard
Arkham Batman’s been upscaled being able to catch speedsters who should be relative to a superman who can fly to the sun and back
I still hate The Batman Who Laughs, hes too awesomebro, but still, awesome video!
Lego Batman not being the strongest is a whole another level of disrespect and I won't sit here and take it gentlemen
After Suicide Squad Arkham Batman is D tier, dude lost to Deathshot, a Clown girl, a Shark and an Australian with a boomerang
That is not cannon lil bro batman is still alive it was just a clone
@@AverageGamer67 proof?
@@Ligmaballin The creators of the game said it because they was getting cyber bullied.
@@AverageGamer67 Good? But that doesn't mean a thing since a 2nd season and a conclusion to the story isn't ever gonna come out cause no one plays this garbage
@@Ligmaballin I can agree with you on one thing the game is Garbage
No love for Robot Chicken Batman
Considering that DC even confirmed that the three Robot Chicken DC specials are Canon to the DC Multiverse
I’m pretty sure we can agree that Batman having subsonic speeds is just poor writing and not meant to be broken down on such a level lol
How so? Batman is literally peak human by DC’s standards, not our worlds.
@@destro3004 i guess theres only so far you can call someone 100% human and still have them performing feats that are borderline superhuman if not superhuman. I know DC has a different standard but even so theres only so far you can stretch human feats.
@@nosleepforme2242bro, it’s fiction. Batman is not even close to the most ridiculous a person could do in fiction.
The Arkham subreddits is a infection at this point. I can’t man made an appearance in this video.
All of this for them but still to be mental health victims
You’re so original
@@ponquin e
I'm just glad Brave and the Bold batman got far he's my favorite batman.
Fr Brave and The Bold was underrated
The Batman 2004 had the best fight animations out of all the Batman shows. It was like it was animated by the guys who did Jackie Chan adventures.
Idk man, your list is pretty solid but Arkham Batman is definitely S to S+ Tier.
Id probably consider the arkham batman to be the strongest considering he beats most of his rogues gallery in one night. But im worried in suicide squad he'll be downplayed like peter in spiderman 2
Knightfall batman did the same thing on a bigger scale
The Arkham rogues gallery is pretty weak tho, only Ivy has good feats
Didn't the Batman Who Laughs conquer the entire dark multiverse in like 2 years or something? I haven't read it since it came out so I don't really remember but I'm pretty sure he did. If he did and I'm not just tweakn' then he's easily way ahead of Arkham Batman. The Darkest Knight is definitely the strongest though so saying Arkham Batman is stronger is kinda goofy
Adam West’s Batman should be number 1
Man solos every version of Batman.🗿🗿🗿
if lego batmans strength scaled to the real world he'd dismember crooks like minifigures 😂
I feel like not using Batman 140 and the scaling presented in the zdarsky run is kinda criminal
But based on tech presented and statements I put tdr Batman above most everyone but current comics Bruce
Also current Bruce is above Batman who laughs. Who is only equal in skill to a 2017 Batman (he’s more unpredictable and dangerous but they share literal skills) since then Batman’s gone through a lot and while definitely not in his physical prime he’s got a robot hand and his multiple rematches with ghostmaker would have dramatically raised his skill
Bro Is making these numbers up 😂
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DC Comics lego Batman isn't related to master builders. In LEGO Dimensions it is revealed that they are completly diffrent people.
Most definitely sure it’s the Lego Batman from the video games. Later in the story, joker show up with the mech from Lego Batman 2 in Lego dimension and Batman remembers fighting it. You have him acknowledge moments that only he’s been through in his games.
@@destro3004 In the starting cutscene of lego dimensions, batman from dc gets into a fight with his lego movie counterpart
@@Caspff i misunderstood what you were saying. I understand they are two completely different people but DC comics lego Batman should still be relative to or faster than Wyldstyle.
Bale's Batman got his ass kicked by Bane, and was only Batman in that timeline for like 6 years, I feel like Pattinson's Batman would beat Bale's in a fight
I mean, the speed that radiation, bullets and light travels is hardly relevant to what we see on screen.
Battfleck seeing Superman's eyes start glowing red and covering his own face with his gauntlets isn't competing with the speed of a laser, but with the wider context of the situation.
Likewise with Brave and the Bold, sure the lasers he's dodging are fast, but if its a continuous beam being shot from a slowly pivoting cannon, it's not the lasers speed to which you would measure Batman's speed, it's how fast the cannon moves.
When Terry dodges the radiation globules, radiation travels fast, sure. But those globs weren't, they were travelling about as fast as I can throw a brick.
The Omega Beam and Flash stuff are genuine moments of speed, but you can't keep saying batman has a reaction speed 3 million times the speed of light while playing footage of him dodging a laser by running to the right at a normal pace.
I mean you can but it'd be silly lol
Using cinematic timing to scale certain feats can definitely be a double edged sword. Even the brave and the bold feat, although I didn’t show the whole scene. There are moments where Batman evades the beams of light from the device while it’s in a stationary position. Even when accounting for the slow pivot of the device, he’d still have to have subrelatvistic to relativistic reactions to dodge those light beams at any capacity from that range. All of these variables is why I didn’t say he was light speed. He falls in the tier below it.
@destro3004 I’m still not sure tbh, cus in most examples he’s still not dodging the laser/bullet from when it begins it’s trajectory to where he is currently standing, that would be Superman/Flash tier speed, he’s diving out of the way when it looks like it’s about to fire, like when a goon lifts his pistol up, or a guy pulls a lever, or when a cannon is facing right at him. Maybe you’re right though, wouldn’t be the first time Bat’s has been written to do something impossible/inhuman simply cus he’s the “goddamn Batman”
Sometimes it’s cool tho, I stand by the Omega Beam scene being too cool to throw shade on. Though I will call complete bullshit on the whole -punching a sniper round out of the air- thing, especially when it’s set in the grounded and realistic Nolan-verse
@@Wattsyy that’s fair
Even the weakest Batman is still the freakin Bat
If anything this list has shown me just how much DC has buffed Batman over the years because no human could do any of the things he can do lol and I love it
why the hell devil never cry is playing in background
Why not
Good game. Good music. And when has Batman ever cried? Somehow it seems fitting for him.
@@Veldazandtea I thought it was random but you have a point
Criminal how Lego and Arkham are not S+
Telltale Batman was a special game
Lego batman was just using only 1% of his power during his game imagine him going all out
Interesting that you merged diff Lego Batmens into 1 Lego Batman.
I've always felt that there should be a variation of Batman that becomes the world's greatest combatant and surpasses Lady Shiva, Richard Dragon, and even more dramatically metahuman combatants like Wonder Woman and Karate Kid. It seems like his naturalistic evolution.
It also seems as though this would be a natural extension of his detective skills. He finds some ancient ruins with "dead" martial arts hyrogliphs. (Like how they have dead languages)
Batman uses his Bat computer to retro engineer these disciplines, and then engineers a "danger" room to train these disciplines.
Martial Arts truly have their own mythos that are ancient. Mastering the animal styles to their full potential unlocks the relative physicality of the associate animal.
A Batman that drops all other physical training and totally commits to martial arts mastery, because he discovers that's the key to being naturally superhuman beyond super soldier tier and into Animal tier Superhumans (essentially Vampiric) is through martial arts mastery.
9:07 my guy unironically wrote "0.005 tons small building level" for those who do not know he just said literally everyone watching this video is at least small building level since 0.005 tons is 5kg...
You know what I'm fairly confident this video has no calculations or mathmatical evidence and he just threw in random numbers that he thought sounded right or plausible I mean I'm now at 11:44 and he's basically said a bell that probably weighs at least a ton after falling generated 0.014 tons of force meaning it got lighter from falling.
I appreciate the effort put into the video regardless of the somewhat unbelievable force calculations. The list still looks pretty accurate despite it, so it doesn't really matter if the numbers are wrong.
It has since been clarified the units were tons of tnt and I should've checked the description where the sources are listed.
If you take a look at the description you’ll find that many of the calculations within this video are from Vs battle wiki. So there are a calculations with mathematical backing present in this vid. For example, they labeled the baseline for small building level at 0.005 tons of energy/ TNT in conventional terms.
When I said things like 0.014 tons or 0.005 tons, I went off their metric of tons regarding energy/TNT.
@@destro3004 Okay, that does make more sense. Thanks for the clarification on it.
you left out “The Darkest Knight” aka TDK
TDK is The Batman Who Laughs but with doctor manhattans power on steroids, he’s scaled to a hyperversal lvl
And then he lose to Wonder Woman in a 1 on 1 fight ):
@@cheesemoon6319That was not an ordinary Wonder Woman, that's Golden Wonder Woman or Anti-Crisis Wonder Woman.
@@cheesemoon6319 exactly as redace4821 said and he was holding back like by a lot
All was gud until laughing tryhard showed up. We’re better off without him.
There’s also the Batman from (2009 Superman Batman public enemies) who fought against multiple super powered enemies all at once
I'd like to add that Batman in The Flash is not Burtonverse Batman, as he said he'd never heard of Superman, and DC confirmed that Burtonverse Batman lives in the same universe as Donnerverse Superman.
Batman cannot move supersonic. Batman does not have superpowers.
He’s not a normal human by our standards. Peak humans in DC are just built different. Cassandra Cain was literally shown staring down bullets like they were in slow motion. Arkham Batman can take down up to 7 armed men in mere seconds before they can even react to him. Even the concept of aim dodging bullets to the degree that Batman does it is literally impossible in the real world.
Its comic book logic bro don't think about it too much. Its like how action movie heroes do impossible feats
Man from aslume?
Batman brave and the bold also did a fist fight with darkseid
Batfleck is an absolute unit, we should have gotten his solo movie :(((
It’s funny how insanely powerful supposedly normal people are in comics. “Holy automotive incident Batman, I’ve been hit by a speeding car and only have minor bruises”
youre telling me lego batman can beat christian bale batman in a fight
Honesty, I don't understand why Man is in a Batman tier list
"batman is the best because he doesnt have superpowers" this whole video shows he does
Remember, he is just human like you and me lol
Battinson is gonna be OP
Keaton's Batman should be in A tier atleast he knocked down Nam-Ek with explosives who has town level durability
The most powerful version of Batman would be a super savant Bruce Wayne losing his parents at the age of 5 and successfully becoming Batman at nearly 20 years old and using synthetic chemicals based on the Lazarus pit. Able to stay a young adult forever. After 40 years of experience he would be nearly impossible to beat
Great, now I want to see this but with Superman or Spider-Man😅 Definitely Subbing
There was no Adam West batman in the list : (
Man this video is so freaking well made
9:19 wouldn’t he have to just be faster than the machine?
In that instance, yeah. But in that same episode, he was also able to outright dodge the light beams fired from the machine while it was stationary position.
Batman = Plot Armor!!!
If Lego Batman ain’t 1st, I don’t want it
8:12 ha infamous franchise oh yeah im from poland btw and i love this franchise
This is an extremely well done and high effort video for a low subscribers youtube channel. And all of them are fr facts. Giving you a sub and a bell
Anyways im gonna go cry on how batfleck beats arkham (kill me)
Thank you so much
Once kill the justice league drops, I wouldn’t be surprised if Arkham Batman shows better feats than batfleck. He’s been in the league for some time and naturally he would’ve combated these same threats.
@@destro3004 True
Underrated Scaler, i loved this and your Arkham video
you just got a new sub
Lego Batman can’t die meaning he is top tier because everytime joker tries to kill him he comes back in just a few seconds
I personally think Batman is stronger than Batman but Batman has also shown promise in being close to Batman in terms of feats which means he's not thst far off from Batman
8:38 although his death was horrible his scaling has increased dramatically going from super sonic to ftl+ in 5yrs and being able to one shot king shark a demi god and a superboy level character(waller states that shark can go toe to toe with superman) and react to flash managing to grab flash while he is running, he was clowning on the squad in his cave who were powered by lex corp futuristic tech and powered by a sinestro core battery and only lost to harley's asspull (batman was holding back the entire fight too due to brainiac ordering him to keep them all alive) and the squad collectively agree that it was complete luck that they survived so yeah bro has grown in strength and speed considerably plus he survived a barrage of enhanced mini guns which is crazy, bro is literally the definition of built different
it’s crazy how many stupid people are saying he was nerfed in this game when he’s way stronger. although he offgaurds Shark, off guard Barry after he’s fatigued and damaged, that’s still was stronger than a dude who got pressed by tanks and squads of normals. Also the sinestro batteries don’t amp stats
@@thandoncube920 he didn't off guard barry, barry straight up jumped him how could he be off guarded but yeah the only reason he lost was because he was kinda dumb and playing around with them, about the sinestro batteries we sure it don't amp stats
How about the batman prep time or darknest night batman
Arkham Batman in A is insane. Hes an S Tier, its the strongest version of Batman that isnt amped by powers
Kinda sad flashpoint batman didnt appear hopefully we get a part two
Bro batflect took like 10 minutes to take those guys out unlike fear multi takedown
No one is a master of hunderds of martial arts. If anything martial arts is not real combat. Real fighting doesn't do "Showing off with art". The key word is art. Real fighting is about moving as little as possible to get the result. Someone trained in the army with real CQC will beat a "master" of martial arts. This has been proven over and over. Real combat is not the same as art. The only purpose "showing off" has is catching the enemy off guard. But even then that's IF they fall for the flashy tricks. If they don't then it won't work.
Real combat is about thinking outside the box. Watch Kung Fu Panda. Sifu teaches Po with things other then combat. Batman thinks outside the box. You don't have to know everything. Just use your brain and think beyond the narrow viewpoints of others.
Something like Karate (the real kind. Not that fake nonsense) is about the state of mind. Flow. Teaching patience. That kind of thing. There is something to learn there. But the lessons are less about combat and more about focus. Learn better focus and you get better in all things. What Batman does is explore everything but he uses his brain to filter out the real lessons instead of the useless crap. And most of what "martial arts" teaches is useless. In terms of real combat situations where people don't play by "the rules". Deathstroke might be one of the few characters that's about as expreinced as Batman is in terms of CQC.
Unless it's Arkham Knight. They did him dirty there. Arkham Origins was a great time fighting him though. This makes zero sense if you think about it. How can a CQC vet hold his own but then be reduced to getting taking down in one hit? This isn't Batman being "that good". It's devs not doing enough TLC for Deathstroke and giving him a real fight the players can engage with. Devs (film or game makers. Or comic book writers) can mess things up. And that's an important factor to consider here.
As for the speed, it's more about predicting where something will hit and moving before it does. And if the characters are that fast then why aren't they as fast as Superman the rest of the time? Too much of an immersion break if they are that fast. Either they're that fast or they're not. If they are then they can move faster at other times, but they don't. Most of the time Batman seems to move before shots are fired. You see someone raising a gun? I'd be moving already too. The vid even shows that.
And if Joker can survive a bell landing on him, why don't bullets bounce off his body? Sometimes it's "looking cool and flashy for the sake of it." It's pretty clear when that happens. To be fair the bell has a big gap inside of it as well. So there is wiggle room there.
do the same for spider-man!
This is absolutely amazing keep up the great work can’t wait to see more 🔥!
I’m glad you liked it
Batman didn't kill that Red Triangle Circle thug, the bomb did 😉
Batlego solos all because he destroyed every villain to ever exist im Gotham within the movie’s opening. And his nine pack
Im mercy! Im the day light! Im Man!
It always irks me when people bring up dodging rockets from rocket launchers when they measure it against a real one, despite the fact that they move much slower in most media than IRL.
The main question I had going into this video based on the thumbnail was whether or not Lego Batman would be scaled based on being a Lego size or being human size
What about the darkest knight
You’re forgetting the animated justice league Batman dodged the omega beams
Wonder where Batman from the MK crossover scales
See I think Telltale would be higher if you calc put all his speed feats and his crazier feats
I’d also note The Batman enduring oil explosions which would be some crazy calcs