The argon case actually functions as a USB M.2 enclosure you don't need to buy one. Just plug an USB A - A cable one side into the pc and one side into the Argon M.2 USB and boom, connected to the PC like a USB drive.
Thank you for sharing. Quick question - how did boot from SSD work for you right out of the box? I thought that Pi Boot flashing is required, to make boot from SSD, as a default, isn't it ?
Yes, for me it booted right off the SSD. Now, since this video there has been an updated firmware that is pretty cool that lets you setup the SSD without a microSD (network boot). If you're interested, there is a video here on that: ua-cam.com/video/xjyQoIzLWac/v-deo.html
This update video explains that you don't really need the external case: ua-cam.com/video/LHZQKr5G7MA/v-deo.html (2nd segment, see chapter markers if you want to skip the beginning).
I had this for over a year, then now it starts freaking out every few days... I wonder if due to the SSD having no thermal pad, that thing gets super hot... The v3 pi5 has a thermal pad
small tip for all who are interested the lower half of case can function like an enclosure all you need is a USB 3 TYPE A to TYPE A cable. at least that's how I do transfers
Hi Lukas, you're exactly right! I released an update video to discuss this (also added to the video description) after it was brought to my attention that there is another easier way: ua-cam.com/video/LHZQKr5G7MA/v-deo.html Thank you!
@@WagnersTechTalk as the m2 comes with a short USB to USB plug, all you need to do is plug one end into the case, then use a normal USB extension cable (m to f)to connect the other end of the cable to your computer USB port
May not be for everyone, I enjoy it with PINN Lite for running multiple OSes and easy access to the GPIO. But others are going to want to use it as a media center, which you can do with the on-board IR receiver. This remote works well for that: ua-cam.com/video/f_MfEZ194sU/v-deo.html , however the remote is about useless for anything other than Kodi. There are a lot of reasons why someone would want this case, but sure some are going to pass too. Hopefully some of this response is helpful to you.
Glad it helped! If you run into any issues, the guide may be found here: wagnerstechtalk.com/argonone . Also, if you want to run multiple OSes, you may find this helpful too: ua-cam.com/video/1Cqta4go45U/v-deo.html . I appreciate your kind comment and for watching!
Thanks a lot for the explanation, it is the clearest video I've seen so far. I've ordered the argon case (first model not with the ssd) and I was wondering if we could configurate the fan after installing recalbox or if we had to do it from pi os, and then install recalbox... what do you think?
Very welcome, happy it was helpful to you! I must be having some Mandela effect, I could have sworn I saw built-in support for Recalbox for the Argon case but can't confirm that through the changelog here: gitlab.com/recalbox/recalbox/-/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md If I come across anything useful, I'll reply back. I do have information on running the scripts for RetroPie here: wagnerstechtalk.com/argonone/
Definitely faster than a microSD card, but yes USB can become a bottleneck but with the Pi4 there are few options. If you have a Pi 5, an NVMe M.2 drive can be installed which will improve read/write speeds. More in this video: ua-cam.com/video/tF85w9GW3r0/v-deo.html
I am having trouble with my M.2 not showing up even after following your instructions. At first, I thought the M.2 was faulty, but I checked it with another tool and made it into a USB drive, which worked fine. I have spent hours trying to fix this and am getting frustrated. Do you have any troubleshooting tips? Although rpi-imager seems like the easiest solution, my M.2 still won't show up, and I don't receive any voltage warning messages. Therefore, I assume my power adapter is working correctly. Any help would be much appreciated. Has anyone had the same issue, and found a work around? I have updated the darn eem firmware. There is nothing I need to turn on to make the USB connection work?
I have some troubleshooting steps here, but it appears that you may have verified the main ones: wagnerstechtalk.com/argonone/#Troubleshooting . These are issues people have run into in the past and let me know what worked for them. If none of that helps, you can reach out to the company here: argon40.com/pages/contact
I plan on using the Argon one to a Pi 4 (8gb) to run Shinobi to capture at least 4 RTSP cameras that are running RTSP ON 4 cameras that I know have worked b4,on a Pi 3b+, using all 4 cameras that had captured videos from all cameras. Of course the FPS were really slow and sloppy. My issue is the Shinobi needs to run on a Lite version of bullseye. How do I install that on an SD card and then copy to SSD M.2 SSD installed on the Argone? Before on the pi 3 I just created the image of Pi lite version and installed Shinobi thru command lines. Since the pi 3 had everything done on an SD card but the Argone needs the image done on an SD card then copied to the SSD and the lite version doesn't have a copy of SD card copier installed is it possible to install a copy of SD card copier to the lite version, on the SSD, then somehow run it (please say you know how, will that fix my issue? Not to mention the fact that I will need to be able to remove the SD and boot off the SSD also! Anyone?
Some of the stuff mentioned, I've not used. However, if you're asking how to transfer the image from an SD to an SSD, you can use this method: wagnerstechtalk.com/common/#Backup_Clone_a_Drive
Quick tip to load OS directly to m.2 drive after it is aleady install in the case just use an usb "A" to "A" cable to your pc or like I did used a standard usb "A" to "C" cable "A" side to the bottom Argon usb port and the "C" side to my pc, it show as a normal usb external drive.
You're exactly right, I made an update to this video about a week after it came out. I've fast forwarded it here for you: ua-cam.com/video/LHZQKr5G7MA/v-deo.html (not that you need it lol)
My fan keeps running even under temp settings. I updated Ubuntu, installed curl and fan script, set default fan settings and reboot. Also uninstalled script, reboot, repeated steps, same issue. Idk what I'm missing. Any suggestions? Using putty.
Recalbox is it's own OS. You can find some information and a video here on how to install it: wagnerstechtalk.com/rpi4gaming/#Recalbox_Install_on_a_Raspberry_Pi_4
Came here after watching this video on your website just to say thanks! What a great tutorial, easily walked me through installing the Argon ONE scripts on my already built RetroPie system. Everything is great now! Really appreciate it!
Wanted the Origonal case for a long time, I was so glad I held off; I have 2 of these with Pi4 8Gig Rocking 420 M.2's. Killer Machines; I thought the 3 was awesome, this makes the 4 a Complete Daily Desktop
It is an awesome case! I really like that they included full-size HDMI ports on the V2, just easier to connect stuff up. If you're interested in the IR Remote, here's a vid on that: ua-cam.com/video/f_MfEZ194sU/v-deo.html Spoiler: Great for LibreELEC, but not much else at this time.
Thx very much Wagner. I applied your whole Setup Guide, it worked but now I have no sound at all on Recalbox. While I had sound when I run Recalbox on the micro SD card. My stuff : New Rasp Pi 4 4Go / This Argon ONE V2 M.2 SATA / A new SSD WD Blu / original power supply Rasp Pi. Do you have any tip for my problem please ? (PS : I am french, sorry for my english). Thx in advance :)
I can think of a few things to check: * Make sure the extender board is fully seated in the Pi 4 (maybe remove/reinsert) * Try a different HDMI cable (I've had some in the past that are poor quality, replaced and it was fine) * Make sure the HDMI cable is plugged into the far-left port at the back If none of the above resolves the audio issue, it may be the extender/daughter board on the Argon One case that may be an issue. Hope this helps!
Hi Mark, yes you can. At the time of this video, I made an update video a few days later to correct that I didn't recognize that possibility. I fast-forwarded to that segment of the video here for you: ua-cam.com/video/LHZQKr5G7MA/v-deo.html
_" we designed the ports new with connetion bridge inside "_ *" hell ya and you forgot those buckels in sight "* for sure it makes sense, but not really for a "used to be device" and those "USB Connector" is a USB BRIDGE in Physical a standard SSD could be better in such like case. they should redesign in FLAT and VESAMOUNT Compatible for every Monitor or as a Stand at half Inch heigt or so. in such like actual dimensions it looks like forgot his breadbox for schoolars btw: 20 bucks and the remote is not available... hmm _" what do you want with such like doors'toppers? "_ now its gonna time to get the choccolate in work
Got a new case coming for review in the next week or two that you may like (already assembled and testing and has a M.2 SSD). For some past case reviews, you can also see here: wagnerstechtalk.com/guides/#Raspberry_Pi_Cases
Nobody talks about how the fan works with different OS’s, I used Ubuntu with berryboot and the script worked for a few days and then stopped, tried re-installing it and got lots of error messages about the argon40 script, and then after a few reboots my SDD had corrupted and I couldn’t boot to any OS. Had to reformat it.
You might want to try PINN Lite, it's not as limiting as BB and seems to be a little better supported. Everything I learned when making this video can be found here: wagnerstechtalk.com/argonone . Some things may have changed since then, however.
@@WagnersTechTalk Thank you :) I will look into PINN, for now am just running TwisterOS off of the SD card as I’m too scared to touch the SSD incase it gets corrupted again lol
@@StanislavKozlovsk I did tests with the same m.2 ssd and it gets over 80°C warm. If the bottom have been made of aluminum, then you would only have needed a heat pad to connect the SSD to the aluminium housing. Then I would have bought one or more too!
@@TheVincentosborne1 You can install it using Pi Imager, it will handle creating the partitions/format, etc. There is also a cool way to update the Pi 4 firmware so you can boot without a microSD card (will need it for the fw update though), if you have an Ethernet cable available. A few links that may be helpful: ua-cam.com/video/-1d_alZNmwU/v-deo.html - Install RetroPie 4.8 Setup the Pi without a computer: wagnerstechtalk.com/rpi4/#Raspberry_Pi_Setup_No_Computer_needed_using_the_new_Network_Installer_Bootloader
@@WagnersTechTalk I was able to install the script just fine through the terminal and use the command through the terminal, but it didn't automatically install the icons to the desktop for some reason. Not sure what else to do.
Please reach out to Argon40.com here: argon40.com/pages/contact , this video is a bit old and they may have changed their script since. Perhaps ask them why the icons aren't created automatically by the script and if there is an option to do so. I'm sure they'll respond back, they were very helpful to me during the creation of this video.
@@WagnersTechTalk Thank you so much and I really appreciate it! I loved your video guide. It was able to help me a lot with the process and getting a little bit familiar with my new Raspberry Pi.
I had Retropie up and running perfectly with fan script running etc. Switched to another image this time using recalbox and I cannot for the life of me figure out how to install fan script. Please help. By the way love your channel and content. Aloha from Hawaii.
Thank you and greetings/Aloha from Alabama! Recalbox has the power-down script built in but I'm not sure about the fan control. I did some searching but didn't find much for the Pi4. You can ask your question on the forums here: forum.recalbox.com/ . I did find instructions for the Pi 3: www.argon40.com/learn/index.php/2020/03/10/argon-one-installation-guide-for-recalbox , but not sure if this script is compatible with recalbox (I'm guessing probably not). I'd recommend a post to their forums, if you hear from them please let me know. Now I'm wondering as well.
Before writing, make sure it's plugged into a USB 3.0 port, may also want to use Raspberry Pi Imager to format the SSD before re-imaging (just to make sure there are no errors writing to the SSD). Aside from that, could be your WiFi. May want to cancel, check your internet speed (go to speedtest.net to perform a test if needed). If all appears good, try again.
Well, it seems quite expensive, but for what you get with it, try to get all that in a different way! The only thing that they really should hire someone else for is the design, it's the ugliest pi case you can get. But I already got myself two of these ugly cases...
Hi, great guide! i am using this case but without the m.2 enclosure and i did as you mentioned in the video but it does not show anything on my screen. I hear the fan spinning for few seconds but then nothing. I can see also red static led on and green light blinking. Also i test it without the case my raspberry pi and it is working as usual, but when i try to add the case it is not showing, black screen, fan not working. Do you know something that might help? Thanks in advance.
Thank you Adamos, sounds like the riser card for the HDMI output may be defective. If you've already double checked the connections I'd get a replacement.
Sounds like a bad/corrupt SD card. I would try a different card. If you don't have one available, you could try re-formatting the SD card using this: www.sdcard.org/downloads/formatter and attempt to re-install. However, I would still question the integrity of the SD card itself (even if it works).
@@WagnersTechTalk yea I got cheap I bought years ago didn’t know I might buy m2 ssd probably it has to be bad sd card because I reformatted it and tried
No problem, I'd recommend a Samsung, Gigastone or Sandisk microSD. If you're in the US, you can pick up a new microSD card from Wal-Mart, Best Buy or even Dollar General pretty cheap. If you have an SSD for your M.2 case, you can also use a USB 3.0 male-to-male cable to connect the SSD to your PC and install an OS that way using PiOS imager (bypassing the need for a microSD card). I show it briefly here (I fast-forwarded the video for you): ua-cam.com/video/LHZQKr5G7MA/v-deo.html
You didnt need an extra m.2 usb enclosure, you can use the argon case without the usb expansion, hook it up directly to a computer using usb to usb cable and install your operating system.
I didn't see that in the manual, but I guess if you have a USB-A to USB-A cable this might work. Curious, did you happen to try this and it worked? If so, I definitely need to add that to the A1 guide. I appreciate the feedback!
@@WagnersTechTalk I do have the argon1 m.2 case, and I did install my operating system this way. Yes interestingly it is not stated in the manual, I have seen another youtuber do it (with a usb-A to usb-A cable) then it made sense to me as the casing is actually m.2 to usb, and you hook that up to pi using a usb jumper. Why not skip the jumper and use the board as a USB to m.2 converter? Turns out I can save 20$ this way
@@EfeArda1991 Again, thank you for this information. Tested it here as well and added it to an Update Video here: ua-cam.com/video/LHZQKr5G7MA/v-deo.html (you even got a mention for the info.) Thank you very much for this great tip.
is there a way to format the SATA? I deleted some files thst did notice was from video and cant fix it back, thanks if you have a chance to take a look.
Hi Erna, I assume you want to re-install an operating system. If so, here are some steps for you: wagnerstechtalk.com/common/#Burn_an_Image_with_Raspberry_Pi_Imager . On that same page you'll also see how to format a drive using Pi imager as well.
@@WagnersTechTalk not precise that is what I am looking for, I want to rebot from the microSD and not the SATA, I try running raspi-config, and selected "B4 Desktop Autologin", with no luck, when rebooting, not showing the desktop 😞
@@WagnersTechTalk thanks, wanted to know if what I was doing was correct or not. because Im having issues and something is broken not sure why. I connected the SSD with an installed RPI on the board on my argon one m2, case everything works fine. later I plug another simple 2.5 hard drive to the other usb3 it work fine.. next day, the rpi4 was frozen no responding. I restarded and some noice I heard in the 2.5 external drive, and I unpluged. it smell like fire/burned. I tried plugged in on my pc no detected, using another adapter to my pc, no detected. I guess the 2.5 disk was burn. then the RPI can't boot from USB to the argon board, checking the logs and hdmi when boot. it said that USB over-current. I tried with another usb3-usb3 to see if the argon bridge was broken, but same issue over-current error. then I plug a m2 enclouse on the usb3 that I connect the argon bridge and the RPI can boot fine over USB. so discarded that something broken on my RPI. then I tried connected the argon board to the PC, with usb3-usb3 from before and PC did't detected, so I unplugges, checking the cable and the board, I smell fire/burned in the usb port of the argon board m2. I guess it burned the board? or the cable burn it? the m2 sdd is fine was't damage. maybe adding 2 hard drives to the rpi4 at the begging did something and mess up the argon board?
Also my SSD (Crucial) says 2TB, PCIe 3.0 NVMe, M.2 SSD. . I UNDERSTAND the Argone uses a M.2, but I would assume that the SSD i have is both NVMe and M.2. Am I missing something?
Good concept, but I think it needs better active cooling, the fan supplied does nothing to cool the Argon. Mine runs in the mid 50's and hits 61 when I actually use it to watch a video or do some editing. I added thermal paste and it may have dropped 1 or 2 degrees. Waiting for my DeskPi Pro replacement parts then I will set it up and hopefully have better performance. My Muizei case is awesome, 36 degrees max 44 or so, I also have a dual fan on one of my pis and it is awesome.
@@sovereignlivingsoul Oh man, sorry to hear that! Hope they are able to get it resolved/replaced for you. But yeah, still loving the Argon ONE V2 here!
I have the original ArgonOne with the micro HDMI ports. I need to buy the new one with the M.2 and get one additional M.2 module, but then I'll have two cases but only one RPi4. Darn! I guess I'll have to buy another RPi4.
Hi Deech, perhaps you missed it in the video but you can get just the M.2 base and it will fit the original ArgonONE case as well as the new one. Links are in the video description, but here's the one to the base: amzn.to/3ke9JBE
If you already owned the prior model, Argon ONE case you can add the base with the M.2 to that existing case for $20. If you don't already have it, it's around $45. Hope that helps.
A 1TB should work just fine, the only limits would be those imposed by the file system used, from what I understand. The largest M.2 that I've personally tried is 512GB.
Love the channel! I'm trying to STILL get my pi to run correctly... I can't get emulators to run correctly at all... not sure what's going on. I tried updating everything but no luck.
@@WagnersTechTalk So! After hours and hours of research and tinkering... the display kept forcing itself into 4k which was causing issues all around. Appreciate the help and videos!
I'm confused. At 9:38 you load the image onto the SSD enclosure. However, you already have the SSD inside of the Argon. You never mention about taking it out. It gives the impression that you have 2 SSDs. Anyway, at 8:38 I do everything perfect step-by-step but then I get a ""failed to open device: SD Card" on bootup. But why is it looking for my SD Card when I already have the NVME installed and formatted? What am I missing?
I demonstrated multiple operating systems being installed PiOS, Recalbox and RetroPie (never know what people want to install, so showed a few to demonstrate how to do it). You actually don't need the enclosure shown in this video, you can use a USB Type-A to Type-A cable to connect it to your PC if you want (instead of the enclosure). I made a follow-up video on it here, to clarify: ua-cam.com/video/LHZQKr5G7MA/v-deo.html This case can't use an NVME drive, you'll need an M.2 SSD such as the ones shown here: wagnerstechtalk.com/argonone/#Where_to_find_an_Argon_ONE . Also have some troubleshooting info here: wagnerstechtalk.com/argonone/#Troubleshooting
@@WagnersTechTalk thanks! I said NVME but I meant the 860EVO SSD. I bought everything using your affiliate links and I’m trying to get it going but no luck. I’ll shoot a video which will help you more of what’s happening. Thanks so far.
Happy July 4th Walt! Here's a thread that sounds pretty similar to what you demonstrated in your excellent video response (thank you for that, very helpful): www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=294691 The issue reported in the thread turned out to be the power supply, he replied to his own post 8 days later with his solution. Are you using the official RPi power supply or the one from Argon ONE (18 watts 5.25 Volts 3.5 Amps)? I used the Argon ONE Raspberry Power Supply - 18 Watts 5.25 Volts 3.5 Amps (USB-C) Power Adapter ( www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07TW4Q693 ). Otherwise, I don't see anything wrong (firmware appears fine, looks like the U-Connector is installed in the back, etc.), may just be that the power being used can't pull the needed extra current for the M.2 drive. In the thread above, he had no indication that there was an under-power condition and I also didn't see any indicator in your video. One other thing that you might try, use PiOS imager to erase/format the SSD as a Fat32 (option near the bottom). Then, re-install the OS to the SSD and see if that helps. Please let me know if this helps (or not). I can't think of anything else it may be, honestly.
@@WagnersTechTalk this might be the issue! I’m using the CanaKit power supply. It came with the RPi 8gb model. But I just went ahead and ordered the Argon One which arrived in 4 days. Thanks so much! I’ll let you know how it goes.
Got this case some months ago together with an WD Red 500GB m.2 SSD and it works like a charm. Connected the Pi with an 0,25m LAN to my Router and started an SMB Server with it. Here I use two 5TB WD 2.5 HDD‘s together with jDownloader. I‘ve even installed ioBroker and Homebridge for smarthome.
Have this case on my pi but I had started with the regular Argon case. Luckily tho, you can buy the bottom part separately instead of buying a whole new case. I used a Kingston sata m.2 works great, great case 👍
I purchased this setup and having used it for three months I can say that this case overheats and the Pi freezes. The temperature on the core doesn't go ver 55C but the whole case is hot. I believe that affects the SSD on the lower part. Unless I start drilling holes on the sides, I am not sure how this can be resolved.
The case itself will get warm since it acts as a big heatsink as well as the active cooling. What is concerning is the Pi freezing, this I've not seen personally. I'd recommend contacting Argon40 here: www.argon40.com/pages/contact
Did you install the ARM version of Windows 10? There is a good instructional video by Leepsvideo here on how it can be done: ua-cam.com/video/xbRBovkmZvU/v-deo.html (I've personally not tried it). However, if you're simply installing the x86/64 version of Windows, that won't run on an ARM processor (Raspberry Pi). Hope that helps!
When you mentioned it was frozen, couldn't tell from that if you were using the ARM version or not. At this point, I've not personally tried it so I don't have anything to add but may take a look at some point.
Is anybody doing anything cool with the infrared (IR) receiver? I repurposed a IR remote from an LED strip and used the installed software to configure it to power up and shutdown the Pi. Also programmed the up/down buttons but those don't seem to do anything in Raspbian. Any advice?
@@WagnersTechTalk I wasn't able to get the Argon remote either, but based on what I saw, any IR remote will work. Just don't use your TV remote if it's the same room with your Argon/Raspberry Pi. I'm a little confused because the Argon Remote has as 11 buttons but the software only let me configure 3. So seems like there is more potential I'm missing out on.
Definitely something I need to investigate when I have time. I do have a few spare remotes, I'll add this to my to-do list for a follow-up vid in the future.
I have the argonone case w/out the m.2 half but I have orded one. At the moment I am runing kodi on a 32GB Thumb drive. If I cloned it would I need to expand the file system?
There is no raspi-config in librelelec. I should of added that to my post. I think I am going to try using gparted. Ill find out tommorrow.@@WagnersTechTalk
The case does some shielding. I changed batteries of my logitech M180 mouse. When I had my mouse in one hand and touched the tranceiver in the other, it worked okay. Now I'm using a USB extension cord. Working okay now.
Why not put the thermal pads on the chips themselves, and then put the Pi into the case? Putting the pads onto the case first doesn't seem as efficient.
I may or may not have accidently broken my micro sd holder on my rasberry pi. Is it possible to use the enclosure to add retropie to my m.2, then after plug it into its regular m.2 slot on the case and bypass using a micro sd?
Yes it is possible, see this update video: ua-cam.com/video/LHZQKr5G7MA/v-deo.html (See chapter markers in the video description if you want to skip ahead).
@@WagnersTechTalk Hey, was curious. I finally was able to get my ssd, but even booting from ssd all videos say i need a micro sd card to start before switching to ssd. After flashing retropie onto the ssd and turning on the rasberry pi 4, it still tries to boot from sd. Since my sd card slot is broken, am i screwed?
Once you burn whatever image to the SSD, should boot up fine as long as you connected the U-Adapter. Are you saying the SD card isn't detected or the SSD?
@@WagnersTechTalk burned the image to the SSD with imager. Shut down, removed the microsd card and turned on once more. System is stucked in booting screen and says that no microsd card is detected and system will not boot. Also I inserted the microsd card again and I can see that the sad is properly flashed as it shows in desktop as a Drive named Boot
You may be running an older version of the Raspberry Pi firmware. You can try booting into PiOS, make sure the network is connected and then issue the two commands to update the firmware on your Pi: sudo rpi-update sudo reboot Then remove the microSD card and see if the SSD boots. If so, let me know and I'll add it to the troubleshooting guide.
My bootloader is "c305221a", dated September 3, 2020. All I get is a screen that says "Failed to open device: 'sdcard', which is shown 4 times and then on the bottom, it says "Insert SD-CARD"... I would be grateful for any assistance you could provide. Also, I am using a Western Digital M.2 500GB SATA SSD with an M+B key connector, and this issue happens with any OS I try to install using the Raspberry Pi Imager. Thank you!
@@WagnersTechTalk I appreciate your assistance. Sadly, I have done that with no luck. I may have a defective *something*. It fine. I'll get it all sorted out. Thanks again.
@@WagnersTechTalk Followed this guide and still not able to boot off the m.2 drive. It's still looking for the SD card. I tried putting the SD card back it, but it doesn't even boot at all. Not even and error screen or anything. Just a black screen.
@@StevenT2112 Hi Steven, Hmm. Black screen and nothing else? Make sure you have the HDMI cable plugged into the far-left port and your TV/Monitor input selection is correct (HDMI1...n). If that doesn't work, disconnect the power and make sure the HDMI daughter board is seated all the way (unscrew, unplug, re-plug, re-screw) and power it back up on the microSD card. If that doesn't work, contact Argon Forty for support, at that point it's a hardware issue -most likely.
@@WagnersTechTalk Everything is hooked up the same way it was before doing the "rpi-update" command. Everything was working fine before that, except not being able to boot from the ssd drive. Hence why I did this in the first place.
Is it possible to use de Aragon Case USB to directly connect the ssd to the main computer and put the recalbox image directly on the ssd and then mounting the raspberry pi instead installing it on a sd card first?
@@WagnersTechTalk does it have to be USB 3.0? I have an old USB Male to USB female extender and plan to use the U adapter from the M.2 to adapter to USB 1.0 extender to computer. Case arrives Monday and I'm trying to set my expectations. Can't seem to find and USB male/male cables around; everything I have goes to mini/micro/C.
Anyone experiencing low voltage problems? I can boot up my Pi but not with the SSD connected. It’ll shut off the Pi and enter infinite reboot loop. If I connect an external HDD, it’ll show low voltage but not shut off. Using the official 5V 3A charger.
I have not had any low voltage issues. For this question, might need to contact ArgonForty. Could be an issue with the M.2 board, hard to tell: www.argon40.com/contact
Which OS did you install that had an issue? If the OS is PiOS, once you get it booted, make sure you update to the latest version: sudo apt full-upgrade / sudo reboot (from the terminal). You might have older firmware on your Pi 4, see the first bullet here for updating: wagnerstechtalk.com/argonone/#Troubleshooting (after updating the OS itself). If the above doesn't help, you might have a defective unit. You shouldn't have to unploug/re-plug in the U connector to get it to work.
What no joke first? lol I didn't notice any difference. With the M.2 inside the case, going from the BerryBoot to PiOS fully loaded was about 10 seconds. Using the external enclosure doing the same was right at 10 seconds as well.
It actually receives power from the USB U adapter. You can also use a USB Type-A to A (male to male cable) if you want to connect the M.2 to your PC. I mention that option in this video: ua-cam.com/video/LHZQKr5G7MA/v-deo.html
@@WagnersTechTalk Hey, sorry to bother you again, I also was wondering what if I got the one without the M.2 attachment? Then would it get power from the GPIO that is sent from the case taking the USB C? I looked on many retailers and I couldn't find a description for that :(
It will always get the power from the USB-C connection, regardless if it's using the M.2 or not and will power the GPIO port. I highly recommend you get the Argon One M.2 power adapter as it supplies the appropriate amount of volts/wattage. Should you later decide to add the M.2 option, you'll be in good shape. Hope this answers your question. Never a bother!
@@WagnersTechTalk thanks for the fast response, I appreciate it! I’ll do some further research on this; I’m also looking into the Argon Neo with the fan hat :D
I assume you mean Windows 10? There is an ARM version of Windows out there, but don't expect much in terms of performance from it. I'd recommend using it with TwisterOS or PiOS.
@@WagnersTechTalk whoops *10 - twister looks great! I'll give that a try. Is that compatible with the Argon because you have direct access to the command console and what not? Sorry, I'm new.
Yes, definitely compatible. You may want to check out my video on PINN as well here: ua-cam.com/video/1Cqta4go45U/v-deo.html Using that, you can load it up with a bunch of different OSes if you're not sure which one you want to play around with.
Thank you my friend, I always appreciate you viewing/commenting/recommending improvements! btw- you'll noticed I changed the font thickness for the transitions as you recommended 👍
The argon case actually functions as a USB M.2 enclosure you don't need to buy one. Just plug an USB A - A cable one side into the pc and one side into the Argon M.2 USB and boom, connected to the PC like a USB drive.
Hi Jeremy, you're exactly right I did mention that in a follow-up here: ua-cam.com/video/LHZQKr5G7MA/v-deo.html
What a great comment, thanks for this excellent tip!!!
I tried it with an USB A to USB C cable and it doesn´t work (mac) - only USB A to USB A???
Thank you for sharing.
Quick question - how did boot from SSD work for you right out of the box? I thought that Pi Boot flashing is required, to make boot from SSD, as a default, isn't it ?
Yes, for me it booted right off the SSD. Now, since this video there has been an updated firmware that is pretty cool that lets you setup the SSD without a microSD (network boot). If you're interested, there is a video here on that: ua-cam.com/video/xjyQoIzLWac/v-deo.html
Or can I put the SDD in the external case without the expansion board?
This update video explains that you don't really need the external case: ua-cam.com/video/LHZQKr5G7MA/v-deo.html (2nd segment, see chapter markers if you want to skip the beginning).
I had this for over a year, then now it starts freaking out every few days...
I wonder if due to the SSD having no thermal pad, that thing gets super hot...
The v3 pi5 has a thermal pad
I'd reach out to Argon40 here: argon40.com/pages/contact . Explain the issue and see what they recommend as possible solution(s).
small tip for all who are interested the lower half of case can function like an enclosure all you need is a USB 3 TYPE A to TYPE A cable.
at least that's how I do transfers
Hi Lukas, you're exactly right! I released an update video to discuss this (also added to the video description) after it was brought to my attention that there is another easier way: ua-cam.com/video/LHZQKr5G7MA/v-deo.html Thank you!
@@WagnersTechTalk as the m2 comes with a short USB to USB plug, all you need to do is plug one end into the case, then use a normal USB extension cable (m to f)to connect the other end of the cable to your computer USB port
I just don't understand buying a $45 case plus a $50+ M.2 SSD for a 3 year-old $50 computer...
May not be for everyone, I enjoy it with PINN Lite for running multiple OSes and easy access to the GPIO. But others are going to want to use it as a media center, which you can do with the on-board IR receiver. This remote works well for that: ua-cam.com/video/f_MfEZ194sU/v-deo.html , however the remote is about useless for anything other than Kodi. There are a lot of reasons why someone would want this case, but sure some are going to pass too. Hopefully some of this response is helpful to you.
Great tutorial! Many Argon 1 M.2 videos on YT did not delve into details on how to install the OS on the SSD. You saved me the extra sweat. Thanks!
Glad it helped! If you run into any issues, the guide may be found here: wagnerstechtalk.com/argonone . Also, if you want to run multiple OSes, you may find this helpful too: ua-cam.com/video/1Cqta4go45U/v-deo.html . I appreciate your kind comment and for watching!
Thanks a lot for the explanation, it is the clearest video I've seen so far. I've ordered the argon case (first model not with the ssd) and I was wondering if we could configurate the fan after installing recalbox or if we had to do it from pi os, and then install recalbox... what do you think?
Very welcome, happy it was helpful to you! I must be having some Mandela effect, I could have sworn I saw built-in support for Recalbox for the Argon case but can't confirm that through the changelog here: gitlab.com/recalbox/recalbox/-/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md If I come across anything useful, I'll reply back. I do have information on running the scripts for RetroPie here: wagnerstechtalk.com/argonone/
Does the Argon One M.2 case run the OS faster than the traditional MicroSD card? Does the SSD's reliance on a USB 3.1 jumper represent a bottleneck?
Definitely faster than a microSD card, but yes USB can become a bottleneck but with the Pi4 there are few options. If you have a Pi 5, an NVMe M.2 drive can be installed which will improve read/write speeds. More in this video: ua-cam.com/video/tF85w9GW3r0/v-deo.html
I am having trouble with my M.2 not showing up even after following your instructions. At first, I thought the M.2 was faulty, but I checked it with another tool and made it into a USB drive, which worked fine. I have spent hours trying to fix this and am getting frustrated. Do you have any troubleshooting tips? Although rpi-imager seems like the easiest solution, my M.2 still won't show up, and I don't receive any voltage warning messages. Therefore, I assume my power adapter is working correctly. Any help would be much appreciated. Has anyone had the same issue, and found a work around? I have updated the darn eem firmware. There is nothing I need to turn on to make the USB connection work?
I have some troubleshooting steps here, but it appears that you may have verified the main ones: wagnerstechtalk.com/argonone/#Troubleshooting . These are issues people have run into in the past and let me know what worked for them. If none of that helps, you can reach out to the company here: argon40.com/pages/contact
I plan on using the Argon one to a Pi 4 (8gb) to run Shinobi to capture at least 4 RTSP cameras that are running RTSP ON 4 cameras that I know have worked b4,on a Pi 3b+, using all 4 cameras that had captured videos from all cameras. Of course the FPS were really slow and sloppy. My issue is the Shinobi needs to run on a Lite version of bullseye. How do I install that on an SD card and then copy to SSD M.2 SSD installed on the Argone? Before on the pi 3 I just created the image of Pi lite version and installed Shinobi thru command lines. Since the pi 3 had everything done on an SD card but the Argone needs the image done on an SD card then copied to the SSD and the lite version doesn't have a copy of SD card copier installed is it possible to install a copy of SD card copier to the lite version, on the SSD, then somehow run it (please say you know how, will that fix my issue? Not to mention the fact that I will need to be able to remove the SD and boot off the SSD also! Anyone?
Some of the stuff mentioned, I've not used. However, if you're asking how to transfer the image from an SD to an SSD, you can use this method: wagnerstechtalk.com/common/#Backup_Clone_a_Drive
Quick tip to load OS directly to m.2 drive after it is aleady install in the case just use an usb "A" to "A" cable to your pc or like I did used a standard usb "A" to "C" cable "A" side to the bottom Argon usb port and the "C" side to my pc, it show as a normal usb external drive.
You're exactly right, I made an update to this video about a week after it came out. I've fast forwarded it here for you: ua-cam.com/video/LHZQKr5G7MA/v-deo.html (not that you need it lol)
My fan keeps running even under temp settings. I updated Ubuntu, installed curl and fan script, set default fan settings and reboot. Also uninstalled script, reboot, repeated steps, same issue. Idk what I'm missing. Any suggestions? Using putty.
Very strange, in this case I'd recommend contacting argon40 here for support: www.argon40.com/pages/contact
Ok, so how do you run recalbox from pi OS ?
Or how do you run a recalbox image from pi OS?
If anyone knows
Recalbox is it's own OS. You can find some information and a video here on how to install it: wagnerstechtalk.com/rpi4gaming/#Recalbox_Install_on_a_Raspberry_Pi_4
Thanks for the demo and info. Very detailed and precise. Easy to follow also, Have a great day
Very welcome, thank you for watching!
I love the case, but how do you not put a slot for SD card - bogles my mind. I moded mine.
Yeah, not ideal. Thanks for watching and happy new year!
You have the best video for the rasberry pi set up… thank you for it…
So nice of you, thanks, Alfonso!
Warning: The ASMedia controller cannot use TRIM. Your SSD could die sooner than anticipated.
Came here after watching this video on your website just to say thanks! What a great tutorial, easily walked me through installing the Argon ONE scripts on my already built RetroPie system. Everything is great now! Really appreciate it!
You're very welcome!
What do the status lights mean on front? Thought I saw a red and green one before but now only see a red one.
I'm sorry, I don't recall what they mean. One is for the IR receiver, I think one is power / activity. But I could be wrong.
do you need to use a heat sink pad for the ssd with this argon 1 enclosure?
This is the V2 enclosure, I didn't use one on the SSD. That said, it's likely not a bad idea.
Wanted the Origonal case for a long time, I was so glad I held off; I have 2 of these with Pi4 8Gig Rocking 420 M.2's.
Killer Machines; I thought the 3 was awesome, this makes the 4 a Complete Daily Desktop
It is an awesome case! I really like that they included full-size HDMI ports on the V2, just easier to connect stuff up. If you're interested in the IR Remote, here's a vid on that: ua-cam.com/video/f_MfEZ194sU/v-deo.html Spoiler: Great for LibreELEC, but not much else at this time.
Thx very much Wagner. I applied your whole Setup Guide, it worked but now I have no sound at all on Recalbox. While I had sound when I run Recalbox on the micro SD card. My stuff : New Rasp Pi 4 4Go / This Argon ONE V2 M.2 SATA / A new SSD WD Blu / original power supply Rasp Pi. Do you have any tip for my problem please ? (PS : I am french, sorry for my english). Thx in advance :)
I can think of a few things to check:
* Make sure the extender board is fully seated in the Pi 4 (maybe remove/reinsert)
* Try a different HDMI cable (I've had some in the past that are poor quality, replaced and it was fine)
* Make sure the HDMI cable is plugged into the far-left port at the back
If none of the above resolves the audio issue, it may be the extender/daughter board on the Argon One case that may be an issue. Hope this helps!
Quick question: Instead of buying an M.2 enclosure, can't you just connect the usb connection of the case into your computer to flash the storage?
Hi Mark, yes you can. At the time of this video, I made an update video a few days later to correct that I didn't recognize that possibility. I fast-forwarded to that segment of the video here for you: ua-cam.com/video/LHZQKr5G7MA/v-deo.html
@@WagnersTechTalk Ahh that explains a lot. Thanks for the clarification!
_" we designed the ports new with connetion bridge inside "_
*" hell ya and you forgot those buckels in sight "*
for sure it makes sense, but not really for a "used to be device" and those "USB Connector" is a USB BRIDGE in Physical
a standard SSD could be better in such like case.
they should redesign in FLAT and VESAMOUNT Compatible for every Monitor or as a Stand at half Inch heigt or so.
in such like actual dimensions it looks like forgot his breadbox for schoolars
btw: 20 bucks and the remote is not available... hmm _" what do you want with such like doors'toppers? "_
now its gonna time to get the choccolate in work
Got a new case coming for review in the next week or two that you may like (already assembled and testing and has a M.2 SSD). For some past case reviews, you can also see here: wagnerstechtalk.com/guides/#Raspberry_Pi_Cases
One more brazillian subscriber perfect video!
Thank you! 😃
Ooh. This is useful. Of course my budget is about to go geek. 😇
Nobody talks about how the fan works with different OS’s, I used Ubuntu with berryboot and the script worked for a few days and then stopped, tried re-installing it and got lots of error messages about the argon40 script, and then after a few reboots my SDD had corrupted and I couldn’t boot to any OS. Had to reformat it.
You might want to try PINN Lite, it's not as limiting as BB and seems to be a little better supported. Everything I learned when making this video can be found here: wagnerstechtalk.com/argonone . Some things may have changed since then, however.
@@WagnersTechTalk Thank you :) I will look into PINN, for now am just running TwisterOS off of the SD card as I’m too scared to touch the SSD incase it gets corrupted again lol
Understand! If you're curious about it, here's an (older) video I made about it: ua-cam.com/video/1Cqta4go45U/v-deo.html
hello!
RPI4 8GB with Kali Linux show the next when start: VCC-SD: Disabling
How can run kali on RPI4 8GB without this message?
You may want to post this question here for a faster/more accurate answer: forums.kali.org/
@@WagnersTechTalk thank you!
I think that this message is about the version of kernel. only support kernel 5.14 or above
@@crash_ackerman I'm not that experienced with Kali Linux at this point, maybe I'll get there but it was the best advice I could give you -for now.
Why not just image the SSD directly?
You're correct, you can. I made a correction video shortly after. I fast forwarded that video for you here: ua-cam.com/video/LHZQKr5G7MA/v-deo.html
the cases are very good, but have no way of actively cooling the m.2 SSD
why do you need that? what would you use to cooling?
@@StanislavKozlovsk I did tests with the same m.2 ssd and it gets over 80°C warm. If the bottom have been made of aluminum, then you would only have needed a heat pad to connect the SSD to the aluminium housing. Then I would have bought one or more too!
Thanks for the great tutorial. Got my RPi 4B set up with SSD no problems!
Works great.
Very nice, glad you're all setup! If needed in the future, this guide is also available : wagnerstechtalk.com/argonone/
Hi, your using the official Raspberry Pi power supply?
Does the drive need to be formated ntfs or fat 32?
What are you planning to install?
@@WagnersTechTalk I'm going to install retropi on a 1tb nvme ssd
@@TheVincentosborne1 You can install it using Pi Imager, it will handle creating the partitions/format, etc. There is also a cool way to update the Pi 4 firmware so you can boot without a microSD card (will need it for the fw update though), if you have an Ethernet cable available. A few links that may be helpful:
ua-cam.com/video/-1d_alZNmwU/v-deo.html - Install RetroPie 4.8
Setup the Pi without a computer: wagnerstechtalk.com/rpi4/#Raspberry_Pi_Setup_No_Computer_needed_using_the_new_Network_Installer_Bootloader
@@WagnersTechTalk thank, I format it as ntfs at first and didn't boot bit I reformat it as fat32 and work now
After installing the scripts on my Raspberry Pi, how did you get the icons/shortcuts to appear on the desktop?
At 12:00, after running the installer the icons were created automatically on the Desktop. Is that not what you're seeing?
@@WagnersTechTalk I was able to install the script just fine through the terminal and use the command through the terminal, but it didn't automatically install the icons to the desktop for some reason. Not sure what else to do.
Please reach out to Argon40.com here: argon40.com/pages/contact , this video is a bit old and they may have changed their script since. Perhaps ask them why the icons aren't created automatically by the script and if there is an option to do so. I'm sure they'll respond back, they were very helpful to me during the creation of this video.
@@WagnersTechTalk Thank you so much and I really appreciate it! I loved your video guide. It was able to help me a lot with the process and getting a little bit familiar with my new Raspberry Pi.
I had Retropie up and running perfectly with fan script running etc. Switched to another image this time using recalbox and I cannot for the life of me figure out how to install fan script. Please help. By the way love your channel and content. Aloha from Hawaii.
Thank you and greetings/Aloha from Alabama! Recalbox has the power-down script built in but I'm not sure about the fan control. I did some searching but didn't find much for the Pi4. You can ask your question on the forums here: forum.recalbox.com/ . I did find instructions for the Pi 3: www.argon40.com/learn/index.php/2020/03/10/argon-one-installation-guide-for-recalbox , but not sure if this script is compatible with recalbox (I'm guessing probably not). I'd recommend a post to their forums, if you hear from them please let me know. Now I'm wondering as well.
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Very welcome, I appreciate your support!
Man, I love your channel! You make everything so clear and easy to understand!
Thank you so much Jason, I like to simplify things as much as I can. I appreciate your support and for watching 😎
He is right even I that I am brazillian Could understand It for completely you have a marvelous explanation man,really congratulations!
@@joaopedrobelo2313 I really appreciate your kind comments! I'd love to take a trip to Brazil one of these days, looks beautiful there.
The Raspberry imager is taking forever to write to the SSD. Could it be my wifi. My SSD is a Samsung m2 sata EVO
Before writing, make sure it's plugged into a USB 3.0 port, may also want to use Raspberry Pi Imager to format the SSD before re-imaging (just to make sure there are no errors writing to the SSD). Aside from that, could be your WiFi. May want to cancel, check your internet speed (go to speedtest.net to perform a test if needed). If all appears good, try again.
But for some reason i can't see my screen after installing RetroPie to the SSD
Make sure it's plugged into the far-left HDMI port, your HDMI cable is good/working, then power on the case with the HDMI cable connected.
@@WagnersTechTalk All good now. Ended up of all things to be the HDMI Cable was to long. Thanks again.
Good news, glad you got it resolved! Have a great day!
I prefer the Original Argon One Case and a M.2 in an enclosure on a short lead, and still have access to the sd card reader
Well, it seems quite expensive, but for what you get with it, try to get all that in a different way! The only thing that they really should hire someone else for is the design, it's the ugliest pi case you can get. But I already got myself two of these ugly cases...
lol, I dig the design myself but I get it's not for everyone. Thank you for watching and commenting!
Hi, great guide! i am using this case but without the m.2 enclosure and i did as you mentioned in the video but it does not show anything on my screen. I hear the fan spinning for few seconds but then nothing. I can see also red static led on and green light blinking. Also i test it without the case my raspberry pi and it is working as usual, but when i try to add the case it is not showing, black screen, fan not working. Do you know something that might help? Thanks in advance.
Thank you Adamos, sounds like the riser card for the HDMI output may be defective. If you've already double checked the connections I'd get a replacement.
Most Samsung's Evos are Nvme the Argon One M.2 supports Sata not Nvme, so be careful with that
Yes, It must be a B-Key or B+M Key M.2 SSD to work with the case.
hmm getting error writing to my micro sd card "verifying write failed contend to sd card is different from what is written"
Sounds like a bad/corrupt SD card. I would try a different card. If you don't have one available, you could try re-formatting the SD card using this: www.sdcard.org/downloads/formatter and attempt to re-install. However, I would still question the integrity of the SD card itself (even if it works).
@@WagnersTechTalk yea I got cheap I bought years ago didn’t know I might buy m2 ssd probably it has to be bad sd card because I reformatted it and tried
Ty
No problem, I'd recommend a Samsung, Gigastone or Sandisk microSD. If you're in the US, you can pick up a new microSD card from Wal-Mart, Best Buy or even Dollar General pretty cheap. If you have an SSD for your M.2 case, you can also use a USB 3.0 male-to-male cable to connect the SSD to your PC and install an OS that way using PiOS imager (bypassing the need for a microSD card). I show it briefly here (I fast-forwarded the video for you): ua-cam.com/video/LHZQKr5G7MA/v-deo.html
You didnt need an extra m.2 usb enclosure, you can use the argon case without the usb expansion, hook it up directly to a computer using usb to usb cable and install your operating system.
I didn't see that in the manual, but I guess if you have a USB-A to USB-A cable this might work. Curious, did you happen to try this and it worked? If so, I definitely need to add that to the A1 guide. I appreciate the feedback!
@@WagnersTechTalk I do have the argon1 m.2 case, and I did install my operating system this way. Yes interestingly it is not stated in the manual, I have seen another youtuber do it (with a usb-A to usb-A cable) then it made sense to me as the casing is actually m.2 to usb, and you hook that up to pi using a usb jumper. Why not skip the jumper and use the board as a USB to m.2 converter? Turns out I can save 20$ this way
I like it, thanks for letting me know! I'll have to give this a try myself and then I'll update the guide. Makes perfect sense.
IT is working
@@EfeArda1991 Again, thank you for this information. Tested it here as well and added it to an Update Video here: ua-cam.com/video/LHZQKr5G7MA/v-deo.html (you even got a mention for the info.) Thank you very much for this great tip.
hey man, have you experienced any issue with wifi signal? like lower signal reception, since that case is made with aluminium
I personally have not experienced any issues with the wifi signal.
is there a way to format the SATA? I deleted some files thst did notice was from video and cant fix it back, thanks if you have a chance to take a look.
Hi Erna, I assume you want to re-install an operating system. If so, here are some steps for you: wagnerstechtalk.com/common/#Burn_an_Image_with_Raspberry_Pi_Imager . On that same page you'll also see how to format a drive using Pi imager as well.
@@WagnersTechTalk you are awesome, will do!!!
@@WagnersTechTalk not precise that is what I am looking for, I want to rebot from the microSD and not the SATA, I try running raspi-config, and selected "B4 Desktop Autologin", with no luck, when rebooting, not showing the desktop 😞
In PiOS Imager select 'Raspberry Pi OS (32-Bit)', insert your microSD into the computer, select the microSD and click Write. Should be good to go.
@@WagnersTechTalk it worked, thanks so much for the immediate response, you rock!!!!
can I plug the expansion board argon to my pc, to install there the SO rpi sata m2 ?
Yes, I had a follow-up to this video that demonstrated that.
@@WagnersTechTalk link for that video?
Sure, even fast-forwarded for you: ua-cam.com/video/LHZQKr5G7MA/v-deo.html
@@WagnersTechTalk thanks, wanted to know if what I was doing was correct or not. because Im having issues and something is broken not sure why.
I connected the SSD with an installed RPI on the board on my argon one m2, case everything works fine. later I plug another simple 2.5 hard drive to the other usb3 it work fine..
next day, the rpi4 was frozen no responding. I restarded and some noice I heard in the 2.5 external drive, and I unpluged. it smell like fire/burned. I tried plugged in on my pc no detected, using another adapter to my pc, no detected. I guess the 2.5 disk was burn.
then the RPI can't boot from USB to the argon board, checking the logs and hdmi when boot. it said that USB over-current.
I tried with another usb3-usb3 to see if the argon bridge was broken, but same issue over-current error.
then I plug a m2 enclouse on the usb3 that I connect the argon bridge and the RPI can boot fine over USB.
so discarded that something broken on my RPI.
then I tried connected the argon board to the PC, with usb3-usb3 from before and PC did't detected, so I unplugges, checking the cable and the board, I smell fire/burned in the usb port of the argon board m2. I guess it burned the board? or the cable burn it? the m2 sdd is fine was't damage.
maybe adding 2 hard drives to the rpi4 at the begging did something and mess up the argon board?
and also maybe the usb3-usb3 cable have issues.
Why not put SSD in the M.2 Case?
Yes, corrected that in this video: ua-cam.com/video/LHZQKr5G7MA/v-deo.html
Also my SSD (Crucial) says 2TB, PCIe 3.0 NVMe, M.2 SSD. . I UNDERSTAND the Argone uses a M.2, but I would assume that the SSD i have is both NVMe and M.2. Am I missing something?
The lower portion of the case does function as an external m.2 enclosure.
Yes, thank you. I came out with an update video shortly after here: ua-cam.com/video/LHZQKr5G7MA/v-deo.html
Good concept, but I think it needs better active cooling, the fan supplied does nothing to cool the Argon. Mine runs in the mid 50's and hits 61 when I actually use it to watch a video or do some editing. I added thermal paste and it may have dropped 1 or 2 degrees. Waiting for my DeskPi Pro replacement parts then I will set it up and hopefully have better performance. My Muizei case is awesome, 36 degrees max 44 or so, I also have a dual fan on one of my pis and it is awesome.
Thanks for sharing!
@@WagnersTechTalk My DeskPi Pro replacement parts came in and the HDMI ports don't work, lol. I guess the Argon comes up on top as it works.
@@sovereignlivingsoul Oh man, sorry to hear that! Hope they are able to get it resolved/replaced for you. But yeah, still loving the Argon ONE V2 here!
I have the original ArgonOne with the micro HDMI ports. I need to buy the new one with the M.2 and get one additional M.2 module, but then I'll have two cases but only one RPi4. Darn! I guess I'll have to buy another RPi4.
Hi Deech, perhaps you missed it in the video but you can get just the M.2 base and it will fit the original ArgonONE case as well as the new one. Links are in the video description, but here's the one to the base: amzn.to/3ke9JBE
@@WagnersTechTalk No, no, I caught it and have known about the M.2 version of the case for a while. Thanks for the video.
Why would I buy the bottom expansion board by itself?
If you already owned the prior model, Argon ONE case you can add the base with the M.2 to that existing case for $20. If you don't already have it, it's around $45. Hope that helps.
Is there a safe shutdown script for the Argon One V2?
Yes, you can find it on the Argon One page here: wagnerstechtalk.com/argonone/#Install_Argon_ONE_Scripts_in_Pi_OS_3264-bit plus much more information.
Aren’t we supposed to change the boot order in order to boot the os from ssd? 8:25
It identified the SSD fine.
you always post great videos on the raspberry pi 4 and i love it that this great lil machine is so powerful and great to have
Thank you DN for watching, I really appreciate it! There is always something new and exciting to learn and discover 😎
Please help. For an SATA M.2 can I use a 1T or am I limited to a certain gb capacity??
A 1TB should work just fine, the only limits would be those imposed by the file system used, from what I understand. The largest M.2 that I've personally tried is 512GB.
@@WagnersTechTalk wow thank you very much that was alot of help!!!!!
Very welcome!
@@WagnersTechTalk I went with the Samsung 860 EVO M.2 500GB SATA M.2
Make sure it has a B or B+M Key like the one shown here: wagnerstechtalk.com/argonone/#Where_to_find_an_Argon_ONE If it is, you should be good to go!
Love the channel! I'm trying to STILL get my pi to run correctly... I can't get emulators to run correctly at all... not sure what's going on. I tried updating everything but no luck.
Thank you, glad you're enjoying it! What's the problem, maybe I can help or point you to something that will.
@@WagnersTechTalk So! After hours and hours of research and tinkering... the display kept forcing itself into 4k which was causing issues all around. Appreciate the help and videos!
I'm confused. At 9:38 you load the image onto the SSD enclosure. However, you already have the SSD inside of the Argon. You never mention about taking it out. It gives the impression that you have 2 SSDs. Anyway, at 8:38 I do everything perfect step-by-step but then I get a ""failed to open device: SD Card" on bootup. But why is it looking for my SD Card when I already have the NVME installed and formatted? What am I missing?
I demonstrated multiple operating systems being installed PiOS, Recalbox and RetroPie (never know what people want to install, so showed a few to demonstrate how to do it). You actually don't need the enclosure shown in this video, you can use a USB Type-A to Type-A cable to connect it to your PC if you want (instead of the enclosure). I made a follow-up video on it here, to clarify: ua-cam.com/video/LHZQKr5G7MA/v-deo.html This case can't use an NVME drive, you'll need an M.2 SSD such as the ones shown here: wagnerstechtalk.com/argonone/#Where_to_find_an_Argon_ONE . Also have some troubleshooting info here: wagnerstechtalk.com/argonone/#Troubleshooting
@@WagnersTechTalk thanks! I said NVME but I meant the 860EVO SSD. I bought everything using your affiliate links and I’m trying to get it going but no luck. I’ll shoot a video which will help you more of what’s happening. Thanks so far.
@@WagnersTechTalk OK here's my video showing what's happening. Also, happy 4th of July! ua-cam.com/video/CaWyhdgQUdo/v-deo.html
Happy July 4th Walt! Here's a thread that sounds pretty similar to what you demonstrated in your excellent video response (thank you for that, very helpful): www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=294691 The issue reported in the thread turned out to be the power supply, he replied to his own post 8 days later with his solution. Are you using the official RPi power supply or the one from Argon ONE (18 watts 5.25 Volts 3.5 Amps)? I used the Argon ONE Raspberry Power Supply - 18 Watts 5.25 Volts 3.5 Amps (USB-C) Power Adapter ( www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07TW4Q693 ). Otherwise, I don't see anything wrong (firmware appears fine, looks like the U-Connector is installed in the back, etc.), may just be that the power being used can't pull the needed extra current for the M.2 drive. In the thread above, he had no indication that there was an under-power condition and I also didn't see any indicator in your video. One other thing that you might try, use PiOS imager to erase/format the SSD as a Fat32 (option near the bottom). Then, re-install the OS to the SSD and see if that helps. Please let me know if this helps (or not). I can't think of anything else it may be, honestly.
@@WagnersTechTalk this might be the issue! I’m using the CanaKit power supply. It came with the RPi 8gb model. But I just went ahead and ordered the Argon One which arrived in 4 days. Thanks so much! I’ll let you know how it goes.
Got this case some months ago together with an WD Red 500GB m.2 SSD and it works like a charm. Connected the Pi with an 0,25m LAN to my Router and started an SMB Server with it. Here I use two 5TB WD 2.5 HDD‘s together with jDownloader. I‘ve even installed ioBroker and Homebridge for smarthome.
How did you connect two HDDs to it? Isn't there any issue on the rpi4 when connecting two at a time?
Have this case on my pi but I had started with the regular Argon case. Luckily tho, you can buy the bottom part separately instead of buying a whole new case. I used a Kingston sata m.2 works great, great case 👍
Thanks for sharing
I purchased this setup and having used it for three months I can say that this case overheats and the Pi freezes. The temperature on the core doesn't go ver 55C but the whole case is hot. I believe that affects the SSD on the lower part. Unless I start drilling holes on the sides, I am not sure how this can be resolved.
The case itself will get warm since it acts as a big heatsink as well as the active cooling. What is concerning is the Pi freezing, this I've not seen personally. I'd recommend contacting Argon40 here: www.argon40.com/pages/contact
Yes, the same problem
hmmm... im just using Argon ONE M.2 Case and runing win 10 from M.2 sata 500mb/s... and its absolutely frozen... i dont understand ..
Did you install the ARM version of Windows 10? There is a good instructional video by Leepsvideo here on how it can be done: ua-cam.com/video/xbRBovkmZvU/v-deo.html (I've personally not tried it). However, if you're simply installing the x86/64 version of Windows, that won't run on an ARM processor (Raspberry Pi). Hope that helps!
@@WagnersTechTalk it runs but its not useable so ofc its latest arm
When you mentioned it was frozen, couldn't tell from that if you were using the ARM version or not. At this point, I've not personally tried it so I don't have anything to add but may take a look at some point.
Mines on order now lad. Huge thanks my friend. Excellent review.
Thank you Hunter, I appreciate your support and for watching!
Is anybody doing anything cool with the infrared (IR) receiver? I repurposed a IR remote from an LED strip and used the installed software to configure it to power up and shutdown the Pi. Also programmed the up/down buttons but those don't seem to do anything in Raspbian. Any advice?
Sounds great Paul! I've not played with the IR receiver yet. I was hoping to get ahold of one of the Argon ONE remotes but haven't as of yet.
@@WagnersTechTalk I wasn't able to get the Argon remote either, but based on what I saw, any IR remote will work. Just don't use your TV remote if it's the same room with your Argon/Raspberry Pi. I'm a little confused because the Argon Remote has as 11 buttons but the software only let me configure 3. So seems like there is more potential I'm missing out on.
Definitely something I need to investigate when I have time. I do have a few spare remotes, I'll add this to my to-do list for a follow-up vid in the future.
Really useful and comprehensive video.
Glad it was helpful!
I/O through USB 3.0 is slower, so why to downgrade your M.2 SSD? o_O
There isn't native M.2 support on the Pi itself. No other choice, if you want an M.2 SSD.
I have the argonone case w/out the m.2 half but I have orded one. At the moment I am runing kodi on a 32GB Thumb drive. If I cloned it would I need to expand the file system?
If I recall correctly, you'll have to expand the file system after cloning. You can do that easily through raspi-config.
There is no raspi-config in librelelec. I should of added that to my post. I think I am going to try using gparted. Ill find out tommorrow.@@WagnersTechTalk
@@One-Eyed-Willly Ah, ok. Yeah gparted should be able to expand the FS in that case.
The case does some shielding. I changed batteries of my logitech M180 mouse. When I had my mouse in one hand and touched the tranceiver in the other, it worked okay. Now I'm using a USB extension cord. Working okay now.
Why not put the thermal pads on the chips themselves, and then put the Pi into the case? Putting the pads onto the case first doesn't seem as efficient.
Either way works, they both meet at the same point and cover the same area 👍
I may or may not have accidently broken my micro sd holder on my rasberry pi. Is it possible to use the enclosure to add retropie to my m.2, then after plug it into its regular m.2 slot on the case and bypass using a micro sd?
Yes it is possible, see this update video: ua-cam.com/video/LHZQKr5G7MA/v-deo.html (See chapter markers in the video description if you want to skip ahead).
@@WagnersTechTalk Thanks so much! Helped a ton actually.
@@WagnersTechTalk Hey, was curious. I finally was able to get my ssd, but even booting from ssd all videos say i need a micro sd card to start before switching to ssd. After flashing retropie onto the ssd and turning on the rasberry pi 4, it still tries to boot from sd. Since my sd card slot is broken, am i screwed?
Followed all the steps but when I remove the sd card it just wont boot. SD card not detected and insert SD card
Once you burn whatever image to the SSD, should boot up fine as long as you connected the U-Adapter. Are you saying the SD card isn't detected or the SSD?
@@WagnersTechTalk burned the image to the SSD with imager. Shut down, removed the microsd card and turned on once more. System is stucked in booting screen and says that no microsd card is detected and system will not boot.
Also I inserted the microsd card again and I can see that the sad is properly flashed as it shows in desktop as a Drive named Boot
You may be running an older version of the Raspberry Pi firmware. You can try booting into PiOS, make sure the network is connected and then issue the two commands to update the firmware on your Pi:
sudo rpi-update
sudo reboot
Then remove the microSD card and see if the SSD boots. If so, let me know and I'll add it to the troubleshooting guide.
@@WagnersTechTalk will do, I’ll let you know as soon as I try it. Just emailed you with a picture of the screen.
Thanks!
Just checking-in, did this help?
Thanks for this, great help!
Very welcome, thank you for watching!
My bootloader is "c305221a", dated September 3, 2020. All I get is a screen that says "Failed to open device: 'sdcard', which is shown 4 times and then on the bottom, it says "Insert SD-CARD"... I would be grateful for any assistance you could provide. Also, I am using a Western Digital M.2 500GB SATA SSD with an M+B key connector, and this issue happens with any OS I try to install using the Raspberry Pi Imager.
Thank you!
Hi, just curious if you tried what is in the troubleshooting section here: wagnerstechtalk.com/argonone/#Troubleshooting ?
@@WagnersTechTalk I appreciate your assistance. Sadly, I have done that with no luck. I may have a defective *something*. It fine. I'll get it all sorted out.
Thanks again.
@@WagnersTechTalk Followed this guide and still not able to boot off the m.2 drive. It's still looking for the SD card. I tried putting the SD card back it, but it doesn't even boot at all. Not even and error screen or anything. Just a black screen.
@@StevenT2112 Hi Steven, Hmm. Black screen and nothing else? Make sure you have the HDMI cable plugged into the far-left port and your TV/Monitor input selection is correct (HDMI1...n). If that doesn't work, disconnect the power and make sure the HDMI daughter board is seated all the way (unscrew, unplug, re-plug, re-screw) and power it back up on the microSD card. If that doesn't work, contact Argon Forty for support, at that point it's a hardware issue -most likely.
@@WagnersTechTalk Everything is hooked up the same way it was before doing the "rpi-update" command. Everything was working fine before that, except not being able to boot from the ssd drive. Hence why I did this in the first place.
Hi! Thanks for the video! Do you Know if this case is compatible for Raspberry 3+?
Very welcome Mancha, thank you for watching! The case shown here is only for the Raspberry Pi 4 model b.
@@WagnersTechTalk ok, thanks again and congrats for your chanel, is awesome!
Thank you so much!
Can you do this on a headless setup?
Once setup using Remote Desktop/VNC in PiOS/TwisterOS, etc. you can of courses disconnect the monitor. Not sure exactly what you had in mind.
Is it possible to use de Aragon Case USB to directly connect the ssd to the main computer and put the recalbox image directly on the ssd and then mounting the raspberry pi instead installing it on a sd card first?
Yes it is, I released an update video this weekend which mentions it here: ua-cam.com/video/LHZQKr5G7MA/v-deo.html
@@WagnersTechTalk Great! I'm getting my new RBPi soon with the case and ssd drive but I totally forgot the sd card
You'll just need a USB 3.0 Type A-A (Male to Male) cable and can plug it into the M.2 and to your computer.
@@WagnersTechTalk does it have to be USB 3.0? I have an old USB Male to USB female extender and plan to use the U adapter from the M.2 to adapter to USB 1.0 extender to computer. Case arrives Monday and I'm trying to set my expectations. Can't seem to find and USB male/male cables around; everything I have goes to mini/micro/C.
Anyone experiencing low voltage problems? I can boot up my Pi but not with the SSD connected. It’ll shut off the Pi and enter infinite reboot loop. If I connect an external HDD, it’ll show low voltage but not shut off.
Using the official 5V 3A charger.
I have not had any low voltage issues. For this question, might need to contact ArgonForty. Could be an issue with the M.2 board, hard to tell: www.argon40.com/contact
@@WagnersTechTalk thanks for the reply and I’ll contact them. Really appreciate this video as I had no idea how to easily boot up from SSD.
Very welcome, thank you for watching and if you don't mind let me know what they say. Curious to know what the issue is!
Apparently my connected peripherals and storage were drawing more power. So they recommended me their 18w charger.
I had some warnings when I installed a M.2 SSD (0,95 Amp) . However since installing the new Rasbian yesterday the warnings stopped.
Top tutorial. Great work.
Much appreciated Muz, thank you for watching!
I have tried your process and the os doesn't recognize the ssd unless I unplug bridge and replug in, any ideas?
Which OS did you install that had an issue? If the OS is PiOS, once you get it booted, make sure you update to the latest version: sudo apt full-upgrade / sudo reboot (from the terminal). You might have older firmware on your Pi 4, see the first bullet here for updating: wagnerstechtalk.com/argonone/#Troubleshooting (after updating the OS itself). If the above doesn't help, you might have a defective unit. You shouldn't have to unploug/re-plug in the U connector to get it to work.
@@WagnersTechTalk I used the jan 2021 distro of PiOS
@@WagnersTechTalk Thanks for the link, the firmware update solve this for me!
@@balloonpark Awesome, great to hear!
Do you find speed any issue for the SSD being outside of the unit?
What no joke first? lol I didn't notice any difference. With the M.2 inside the case, going from the BerryBoot to PiOS fully loaded was about 10 seconds. Using the external enclosure doing the same was right at 10 seconds as well.
@@WagnersTechTalk ok, but can I play Pong?
My day is now complete, I was waiting 😎
I see that the case does not forward the USB C to the pi. Does it provide power via the GPIO?
It actually receives power from the USB U adapter. You can also use a USB Type-A to A (male to male cable) if you want to connect the M.2 to your PC. I mention that option in this video: ua-cam.com/video/LHZQKr5G7MA/v-deo.html
@@WagnersTechTalk ohhhh I never noticed you could power it from the USB A ports. Learnt something new today, thanks!
@@WagnersTechTalk Hey, sorry to bother you again, I also was wondering what if I got the one without the M.2 attachment? Then would it get power from the GPIO that is sent from the case taking the USB C? I looked on many retailers and I couldn't find a description for that :(
It will always get the power from the USB-C connection, regardless if it's using the M.2 or not and will power the GPIO port. I highly recommend you get the Argon One M.2 power adapter as it supplies the appropriate amount of volts/wattage. Should you later decide to add the M.2 option, you'll be in good shape. Hope this answers your question. Never a bother!
@@WagnersTechTalk thanks for the fast response, I appreciate it! I’ll do some further research on this; I’m also looking into the Argon Neo with the fan hat :D
Hi! What do you do if you use windows 11, is the argon case able to be used?
I assume you mean Windows 10? There is an ARM version of Windows out there, but don't expect much in terms of performance from it. I'd recommend using it with TwisterOS or PiOS.
@@WagnersTechTalk whoops *10 - twister looks great! I'll give that a try. Is that compatible with the Argon because you have direct access to the command console and what not? Sorry, I'm new.
Yes, definitely compatible. You may want to check out my video on PINN as well here: ua-cam.com/video/1Cqta4go45U/v-deo.html Using that, you can load it up with a bunch of different OSes if you're not sure which one you want to play around with.
@@WagnersTechTalk OMG so helpful. You're a legend. Subbed.
Thank you, definitely appreciate your support!
Great review again with lots of helpful information. Thanks Jon!
Thank you my friend, I always appreciate you viewing/commenting/recommending improvements! btw- you'll noticed I changed the font thickness for the transitions as you recommended 👍
@@WagnersTechTalk yes i did ;) looks much better to me. I find the text in the transitions much more readable now. Thanks!