Óðinn and Dagda do indeed have a great deal in common. Their names 'Allfather' of course. Then there is their association with the dead and mounds. Their association with ravens as Óðinn has two ravens(Huginn and Muninn) and Dagda being married to the raven goddess of war, the Morrigan. The fact that the Dagda wears 7 shrouds and Óðinn is even often referred to as Grimnir, the masked one.
There's a couple of other sort of related deities such as Prometheus from Greek myth who was punished for bringing fire to humans, as in enlightenment but it makes him a god of fire. It's also similar to Odin being hung from Yggdrasil to gain knowledge. There is also Shiva from Indian tradition. Tolkien used Odin as inspiration for Gandalf, the old grey wanderer.
Wikipedia is not a good source of information. „GRÍMA, u, f. [A. S. grîma; Dan. grime = a horse's halter], a kind of hood or cowl covering the upper part of the face, Edda (Gl.), Sks. 304, Þórð. 30; ríðr Barði at Snorra Goða ok hefir grímu á höfði sér, Ísl. ii. 378, Mirm. 58. β. armour covering a horse's breast, a poitrail; en utan yfir beisli ok um allt höfuð hestsins ok um háls framan ok til söðuls þá skal vera g. gör á panzara lund, Sks. 405: the beak on a ship, gyldar grímur, Gkv. 2. 16: grímu-eiðr, m. a Norse law term, a kind of oath taken by six compurgators, an GREEK, N. G. L. i. 56 (vide eiðr); the origin of the name is uncertain, perhaps the compurgators had to appear in court in cowls: grímu-maðr, m. a cowled man, a man in disguise, Fb. i. 509, Fas. iii. 321, N. G. L. i. 175. II. metaph. the night, poët., Alm. 31, Edda (Gl.), Lex. Poët.; óróar gríma, a night of woe, Stor. 18; so in the saying, hverf er haust-gríma, shifty is the autumn night, Hm. 73: curious is the phrase, það renna á e-n tvær grímur, one wavers, is uncertain, það runnu á mig tvær grímur; the metaphor is either derived from a horse's halter or hood = doubly hoodwinked or from the night = in double darkness. UNCERTAIN Grímr and Grímnir are names of Odin from his travelling in disguise, Edda: Grímr also is freq. a masc. pr. name, and in compds, Þor-grímr, Ás-grímr, Stein-grímr, Hall-grímr, etc.; and of women Gríma, Hall-gríma, etc.; prefixed in Grím-kell, Grím-úlfr, etc.: a serpent is in poetry called grímr.
A cowl, a horse and a man that is unfamiliar or disguised is likely the implication of the heiti Grímni. Mask is a bit of the stretch but most of it helps support the arguments present.
@@damionkeeling3103 uh Shiva isn't the all father. That's Brahma, Shiva is the "son" of the Trinity. Brahma is the composer of reality, a master of music, far more comparable to Dagda than Shiva but modern Hindus give Shiva credit for everything like how modern Christians give Jesus all the credit. It's just a blatant misunderstanding of the 3 Deity team that makes up the Trinity. They work TOGETHER (I know crazy concept) and therefore their incarnations would have access to the abilities of all 3.
I took an ancestry DNA test and my highest percentage was Scotland. I just wanted to say I appreciate you making these videos to gain knowledge and insight of my Celtic heritage. As soon as I can donate I will. Thank you sir for the work you do it is truly appreciated!
This is the most I ever learned about the Dagdha. Ever. Never in my own research have I made the connection that the Dagdha could also be Cernunnos. This is fascination, I love this channel.
Have you noticed the extreme similarities to Cernunos on the Celtic Gundestrup cauldron from Denmark and the Pashupati seal from the Indus valley? The two images are practically identical.
I heard on another video that it is theorised that cernunnos is likely the primordial ancient God in Europe and as time went and societies changed aswell as other influences we ended up with pagan branches based from cernuunos but in particular Odin(in whichever version you choose) and dagdha. It's believed there very likely was a basic all round God in our very early days before things became more complex and society evolved. It's even more likely since concepts of 'god of' aswell as heaven, hell and even Valhalla were modern concepts in the grand scheme of thing. We at one point wouldn't have needed many gods when everything about Hunter gatherer culture then as time evolved and things like large scale wars and separations and divides occurred with profit and privilege became a thing, every changed. Unfortunately, due to the fires of Alexandria any proper evidence based knowledge on this topic was likely destroyed forever. I should say cernunnos most likely is far from what that original God was called it's just all we have I guess to refer to them as.
@@blakey9089I don’t thing the mythogems of IE history point to a single god. George Dumezil has found that the IE pattern has a “Mitra-Varuna” principle (dual-chieftain) and the tripartite organizational lore structure of Warfare, Priest craft, and Fertility to round out everything IE’s touched. Monotheism is subversive
I literally live at the bottom of the hill at Aileach where the fort of Grianan is you caught my house in the frame! But I have such a huge fascination of the spiritual understanding and empathy with the environment the druids of prehistoric Ireland had and how their beliefs influenced their religion and ways of life. Very interesting as a cultural synopsis to include the cultural correlations between that of others and their bidirectional relationship! Great work loved every min! Honestly I believe that having direct linkage to this inherent interest, culture and exposure to the megaliths such as Grianan and Newgrange, with some of my family owning some ground some monuments are on that this cultural identity can live on through folk like myself! Ana mhaith !
Thats exactly as it should be. Our mythology and beliefs are a reflection of the European consciousness. Im celto-norse. My family is from Barra in the hebrides, and also isle of skye. I hope to one day go there and never leave.
Real druids are bloodthirsty black magicians, and many politicians today consult and or are druids, as are many freemasons and other kabbalists. Right now the world is in the end times prophesied in the one true religion, with a great deception of false worldly "good" coming very soon, which if one is deceived by, they sever themselves permanently from GOD and are damned. So it is time to set down all fantastical delusions and focus strongly on reality to prepare for the coming spiritual war for our eternal souls.
I think we mostly forgot this stuff in Ireland. Some people here remember, I am trying myself to find out about it. If I go to Stone circles or fairy forts, I can feel the energy there. I think the boundary between dimensions is easier to cross there.
I have lost count of the times I've listened to this one. I suffer from the same lack of ability to pay attention for much more than a "short", as most others, but this is so well told and extremely enchanting that it holds you from start til finish. Very well done, does not even come close to do this work justice, so all that can be said is, thank you.
bright blessing of the sun and water to you . Da Dagda has guided me on my journey in this life for 7 years now as i de-colonialized my mind set to rid myself a life time of religious conditioning . the good God , my Grand God , his dark sided nature that i did not see , so i thank you for answering some questions , things make more sense now thanks to the work you have done and continue to do , i guess to be joined to the Morrigan is a task and she will have a dark effect on anyone . i see Da Dagda as the caller of the seasons , the one who builds the Sidh and the Chief of the De Dannan . he will do anything to protect his family the Tuatha and the land , i see the sun rise and i see Da Dagda . thank you and be safe from the foots hills on south Dublin ,under the gaze of SeeFinn.
The Dagda as a god of the underworld (at least the good parts of it) makes a lot more sense when you consider Brigid as the Dawn goddess. The sun does appear to come out of the earth in the horizon.
I cannot thank you enough for this work you are doing. Listening to it I can not stop crying. Being predominantly of Celtic genes I truly revere and cherish the lore of my ancestors whose ways were hidden for so long. 😢 My relationship with the world itself rings so true with the lore of the Dagda. Beannacht der leat 🐇🌿💚
I appreciate your exacting and persistent efforts to find a reasonable framework for pronunciation that sounds true to history, yet is accessible to modern speakers.
As the Dagda is referred to as holding an iron staff, we can assume that he came during the iron age either at the beginning and displacing the original stone builders or during the iron age where he introduced Druidisim, this means that he was several thousands of years later than the late stone age and early bronze age stone circles and standing stone era. Also recorded battles amongst Druids were often verbal battles over a piece of Philosophy or a new direction/ceremony rather than blood and guts fighting.
The iron age isn't the age iron was first discovered. Just because something happened in let's say the bronze age it doesn't mean only bronze was available. Those are named as such because these metals became much more common and widely used throughout.
@@nicholasthompson6152 You are being free with the ages of discovery, the earliest use of iron so far discovered was approx 1200bc in eastern Turkey and although it fits in with the migrations of people from 'anatolia/Turkey' approx 1200bc it is unlikely to be earlier and probably quite a bit later than this earliest date. So what I am suggesting is that as the stone megalith circle and mound building time span was typically 5800bc to 1200bc stone age and through all of the european bronze age, for a 'traveller' band to show up holding an iron staff has to be later than 1200bc, well outside the construction time span of say Newgrange. but it does fit in with migrants invading and killing off either with disease or a new culture takeover which may have being what stopped the actual Stone/Megalithic buildings. So at best you are subtly correct but it is certainly later than 1200bc as iron wasn't widely known or smelted for many hundreds of years due to its rubbish properties of corrosion, brittilness and difficulty in smelting but yes a 'priest/shaman' would more likely have it than a war leader
@@hawklord100 yes and I am. But myths evolve over time is the staff being made of iron an automatic indication that the myth is only so old? Truth be told I'm not an expert on Celtic myths it just seemed like a fair point to offer.
@@hawklord100 also they've found examples of iron beads supposedly dated to 3200 bc. Iron does rust so it's also a miracle to find any from anywhere once you go so far back
@@nicholasthompson6152 Trying hard, but it don't work the DNA show the dates of migrations, and the DNA shows how the older DNA of the stone bbuilders were from central asia/Ukraine/Crimia The Dagda was ajonny come lately, no celtic myths of the stone builders exist because they were not Celtic peoples, spoke a different langauge, had a different culture and belief system to the Dagda and Druids
Fantastic! Thank you! I'll have to re watch so I can make note of all your text mentions. I enjoy being able to read them, if they've been translated that is.
Lugh was just the SOMETIMES king of the tuathe (the celtic bronze age Poseidon) The Dagda (or Daire as his name was) was the high god worshipped by the other sons of ethniu. Dagda is almost the god of god's (like Ra in Egypt) Lugh
What is the source for the claim Daire is another name for the Dagda? I have not been able to confirm this. However, the Genealogy of the clan of Laigda says Daire is also called Lughaidh.
@@FortressofLugh Firstly thanks for the most interesting response I've ever had to a youtube comment. Secondly I can't recall and failed to find a source, however in looking it turns out the word "Darragh" is the root origin of both daire/dara and dagda LOL. It's very interesting Daire=Lughaidh in the Laigda geneology but clan genealogies are IMO the least reliable form of texts and generally invent a fake foreign origin like with the Macdonalds, Campbells and Frasers (all disproven with Y chromosome studies). It is still a very interesting link though.
@@FortressofLugh P.S: Thankyou for this channel, it's by far the best celtic and probably the best indo european mythology channel on youtube in terms of actual analysis and deduction of primary/good secondary sources. Keep it up, fear-daimh.
@@simonfraser6365 really? So what are U saying- about fake Fraser name -to a clan -via y chromosome? And does it refer to all clans? I'm confused. Please reply.
@@rachaeldover5170 You're certainly confused, that much is clear. Try asking a grammatically correct question and I might answer it, as it stands your question is objectively gibberish.
Great share. I’ve watched a dozen or more great historical videos on other pieces and perspectives of these stories and something beyond the imagination of the average mind is coming together. I’m 30, my whole life our story (through my moms side) passed down was that my great grandfather was half Cherokee born of a chiefs daughter and his father full blood Scottish, the 23&Me came up showing Ireland, and now I’m on this virtual and meditative quest for answers about these bloodlines, no matter how diverse my family has become even a small percentage holds us family with the whole world and so when I travel carrying these wisdoms and truths with me, may we all come together in the knowing and the true teachings. 🙏🏼💫
Thanks for the great presentation. Brilliant as always. We still make Brigids crosses in Ireland every Imbolc (feb 1st) they are hung up over the fireplace. She is believed to protect the home from fire :)
How on earth do you have so few subs? Your accuracy and knowledge is amazing. Being able to take information and putting it into a format of education can be quite difficult. I will keep an eye on you!
Thank you for that video! I once read about the Dagda (a life ago) and have not found that source ever again. Everything I found on the Internet sounded not right. But now I remember, thank you.
The Dagda has both Cthonic and Indo-European attributes. Sounds like a High King/Priest or Druid position of the pre-existing common folk. Later, Llugh is the high leader but Dagda is still present in his role. The Dagda is the only one who weds the Moriggan. Llugh only receives her blessing and she decides whether to enter the battle on the side of the Formorians, the Tuatha De/Fir Bolg under Llugh or not engage at all. So it seems the Moriggan and the Dagda may have been Neolithic roles of High PriestKing and High PriestessQueen elevated into Deities and incorporated into the new Tuatha De Danaan pantheon.
I don't live in Erin but my people (Collins) are from Kent. Embracing my families ancestral roots I've incorporated Irish lore and mythos into my spiritual, homely and familial praxis. My great grand mother and her kin from Kent brought the faeree over with them and the subtle practice survived in my family. And I'm sure Curnnunos as the Romans called him is actually De Dagda in one of his aspects. As the cauldron was his most important tool, and it was a regeneration cauldron for the dead, it makes sense. Keep up the good work. Like the video.
I had a theory recently while studying celtic linguistics that Sucellos' name doesn't mean "the good striker" but rather "the well hidden" or "the good hidden one" as cellos looks to me like it comes from the root cel- meaning "to hide". I further connect this to the ethnic or tribal name Celtae / Keltoi, as I think this comes from the past participle form of the root cel which would have been celtios, in the plural celtioi, thus making the word mean something like "(they who are) hidden" perhaps a reference to the fact they believed themselves descended from Sucellos. This can be supported by the fact that Julius Caesar says the gauls believe themselves the descendants of Dis Pater, and with Sucellos likely being the celtic hades, it's an interesting connection. Also I noticed that the story of Bran's invasion of Ireland to take back his sister sounds a lot like the Persephone story of a goddess entering the under world with a distraught relative who wants them to return.
Anything's possible, personally I think Celtae and Galatae are derived from the same word and perhaps related to caled - hard. Where does the t come from if Celt comes from cel? Wouldn't plural be Celae, Celici or similar?
Outstanding work. As one clarifies the characters in the myth and lore of various cultures - they can see similarities without the presumption that the deity or character had to actually be the same entities. The personification of spirits and aspects of life originally made them easier to understand. Now folks seem too literal and have lost how to get the essence of what is to be learned. You did a sterling job of covering this material. Thank you for your hard work and diligent research.
I appriciate you and your content so very much. The amount of work that you must've put into just this one video is astounding. I live in the states, more specifically, Pittsburgh. We have the Carnegie Library which is one of the greater libraries in the country. But....but, the amount of time I'd have to put into JUST FINDING the literature to tell me what this hour long video tells would literally take me weeks. So, thank you very much. Liked, subscribed, shared and all that stuff. Good luck in your personal future as well as this great channel.
This is utterly fascinating, thank you so much for all your hard work! I think "regular" Christian chroniclers might get a bad rep undeservedly. Those with an agenda - as with academics today that are trying to prove a point or make a name for themselves within the current framework of scholastics - sure, they will color their findings to suit what is "popular". But genuinely curious people who believed EVERYTHING would reflect the truth in one way or another, I think, would just record what they saw and heard of belief and folklore honestly - hoping that someone one day would understand it better. That might be naïve, but I really don't think so. It is how working anthropologists, archeologists, and free lance enthusiasts of a particular subject work to this day. Thanks again for all your work!!
It's amazing how mythology around the world has the same themes and ideas. While discussing "The "Eye".... the association of light, fire and sight....made me think of RAH the Sun God of Egypt. Just one of the many likenesses......
Also the Merlin Saga by T.A. Barron uses much of the Celtic pantheon in it's story, which is what originally started me down the path of reading mythology. Highly recommend to anyone who wants Celtic or Arthurian influenced stories!
Have you read the recently published book Taliesins map by J. Dolan? If not I’d highly recommend it it’s a comparative guide to Celtic myth through an indo-European perspective. Right up your alley.
I'm curious why the narration is done with an English accent? Americans never cease to bewilder me. So much effort in one area and huge oversights in others from our accents to pronunciations.
Maybe because they aint no such thing and a impossibility of a American being a celt, the English have more Celt DNA than American born in America even though The English are a different type of Keltoi tribe...
I've already watched some videos about Dagda, but this is the first time I've watched a video with such a detailed and perfect explanation! Brilliant stuff!👏 👏👏
Thank you for the information that you have been telling us! This is awesome! I am learning so much more than what I have been able to find on my own. Blessed be.
One of the things i value most greatly is knowing the truth- to the best of our ability. Thank you for this and all your endeavors. This means a lot to me.
I may be crazy but this is sounding a lot like Odin ( grey wanderer, many guises and names, association with death and sorcery, association with horses, the great father or father of many) Edit after watching later in the video : ok I'm not the only one who sees it Edit: you may have missed a parallel "turned aside the spears and weapons of Lugh " one of the skills Odin was said to gain from the Runes is " to turn aside the weapons of enemies " And of course there's also all the "eye" motifs "fiery eye" "one eye" etc
Very much enjoyed, thank you, being a Hoy, Hoey, Haughey, Tuatha De Danann, Haey, East Iceland Old Norse, Hoy Island Orkney, direct lineage and descendents of the Darini, Dal Fiatch dynasty, really do feel a connection, all the very best health and happiness.
I've disbelieved what I have been casually told much of my life that I am of Celtic or Scottish blood. One family I met in Portugal told me that to their eyes, I descended from a daughter of "The Dagda". Having no knowledge of any Celtic histories or mythology nor any family members who relate back, I thanked them as the context they applied was one of strength and courage. I was young and dismissed the talk and secreted my irritation that people see my coloring and label me w certain characteristics, capabilities and origins. My mothers line came from Northern France as an extended group with locks auburn and skin pale. I within myself denied the possibility. In hindsight, many times seeing art or hearing dialects and even certain beliefs of objects of power held my attention and admiration while not allowing personal application. I took the ancestry DNA test this year. Northwester Europe, England 41% Scotland 22% Ireland 11% which is 73% of myself stares me in the face. I plead w my ancestor guides to forgive my blindness, please hold no malice as I have followed in the manner guided but denied I could claim connection to the knots that are tied. So now I want to know the histories closest to correct as far as can be known and have been selective with what I put in my mind as being congruent with the ringing of Celtic truths. I read here that those who know have said this video aligns with the truth they know. Would that I'd asked for more from the family in Portugal as why and what else they could have told me had I not been in denial being told "Northern France" all my life. I'll rewatch this many times no doubt.
There were Celts , later mixed + local Liberians as Celt--- Iberians in part of modern Spain. Even today, in NW of Spain there is Celtic group called Galicians (Gallegos = Gallegos in Spanish), they speak their own Latin style language. In Portugal, there are at least 2 provinces where local folk music still sounds Irish or Scottish--- Tras, os, Montes, + ?? . So there are connections.
@@tymanung6382 I just now see this, sorry for late response. You are so right about the music in Portugal, I lived on Teceria Iland and the celt influence sounds dance and wool socks the lace making wow thanks much.
Ironically Birch being used as something in a purification ritual makes total sense because if one makes it tea out of the bark or leaves of certain birch trees it has a blood purifying effect getting rid of toxins and infections.
Never heard of dagda having horns before I only heard of crom possibly being the Gaelic Cernunnos Dagda is more like sucellus if you're talking Gaulish Gael relation however I'd be interested in seeing where the info of him with horns came from
The Dagda doesn't have horns but an aspect of him as Fer Benn might. The Dagda is also known as Ruad Rofhessa - red one of great knowledge. He could be linked to the Romano-British god Cocidius whose name probably means red one and is depicted as a warrior with horns and also associated with the Roman god Silvanus. The Gaulish god Sucellos who is likened to Dagda is also twinned with Silvanus by the Romans. Cocidius is also associated with Mars so the connection between gods from different religions is not a one for one.
I am going to have to down load this on my phone to listen as I close my eyes to sleep. For your story telling is soothing to my soul! Many Blessings 🙏🌞🌚🕸🗻🍀
32:47 I also thought The Dagda seemed a likely candidate for the Cernunnos figure, until Ceisiwr Serith’s “Looking Every Which Way” convinced me there is reason to consider Lugh as the horned god, or antlered at least. It is true, a bull figure if related to the ancient fertility cult might be more likely to be the Dagda. I would be open to consider the Cernunnos figure in this way.
@@joltjolt5060 the Bible doesn't say that Moses had horns. It's a mistranslation. When Moses descended the Mountain having been in the presence of the Creator and Sovereign, his face emitted glorious rays. He covered his face because the people were unable to look upon him. The statue of Moses in Rome depicts the mistranslation.
Look into it deeper: the sources are Irish. People always steal Irish culture. British loyalists even stole the red hand symbol, which is a symbol of the O'Neill dynasty North and South, an Irish symbol.
So one of three brothers, crated the world, practice the Gaelic version of Seiðr, king of gods, the Alfaðr, a rider, hooded/concealed one, mysterious god with many names - there’s certainly some very interesting similarities with Óðinn, possibly sharing the same roots
Great vids. I am a Christian but I love learning about various mythologies. I watched the Historicat's video on the Druids but I was disappointed because he dismissed all the written sources as being created whole cloth by Christian monks. It's nice to see a more nuanced take
I've had the distinct pleasure of walking in the tomb at Newgrange with my father and daughter before the huge visitor park was built around it. Amazing.
I enjoyed this very much!, thank you for your work! Beautiful in the way elemental wisdom is expressed. My takeaway is all about the water element. The element of water and the way it flows, trancends, mutates and expresses itself through the different fases of cardenal proceses (natural law) and mutible processes (imagination/spiritual/psych) ways to express. I think every person alive can learn something here ;)
He is, but as religions evolve less emphasis is placed on certain deities over others while others get elevated. There's a Norse god called Tiw whose name seems to be just 'god' suggesting he might have been more important once like an earlier version of Thor. Gods called just god like Dagda and Zeus tend to be important.
❤ I notice that others (in these comments) are shrugging off the shackles of social programming - from Christian sources and, personally I believe, Roman sources who tried to grind the wisdom of the trees out of us ❤ how can we change for better understanding of the future, if we don't heal what hurt our Ancestors ❤ love the vessel you inhabit ❤ respect our father/mother beneath out feet ❤
Excellent video, Thank you. I see a connection to The Dagma with Enki, the trick eater god of fertility, of All Crafts And Art, Knowledge The Earth And Water of Sumerian. He is also linked with Odin and Osiris and in my opinion the Druids overall. I’m looking forward to seeing your other videos. My Father from Two Rivers Wisconsin, our Ancestor From Enkirch Germany, so many puzzle peices. My Mother a Druid asks Christian Missionary from Christchurch England, where Jesus once worked as A Caperneter during the creation of the bell tower, she took me to stone Henge at age Three. Many are the ways to learn. Peace be with you. Jeremy Alan Burmeister
I have a friend who is Finnish and I went there one summer. I learned about this thing they do there called "birching" in English where they go to the sauna and beat each other with the branches of a birch. It actually feels very good on the skin and has the tradition of driving out the evils yet lingering from the time of darkness (winter and, in the more northern parts of Finland, it seems little light comes to it during that season. It also seems Swedes and Norwegians have a similar practice but I can't verify that. If so, it would seem there are some interesting parallels beyond the similarities of the gods.
Also an interesting but little known fact, the dagda was cast as Rubeus Hagrid in the live action film adaptation of Harry Potter. Every bit of magic you see him do in the films is him actually making those things happen, it isn’t edited.
A few points: One of Odin's titles/epithets was 'Baleygr', roughly meaning 'of the burning eyes'. I suspect that is a conceptual (if not linguistic) cognate to 'fire of the eyelid'. I have, for a while, been of the position that Odin's true typal/archetypal cognate is, to use astrological terms, not Mercury, but Saturn, and more of a cognate for Dionysus (who, especially in earlier veneration, was emphasized more as a god of madness, death and rebirth, altered states of consciousness, power, and possibly the prophesied son of Zeus stronger than his father) and Mycenaean (rather than Hellenic) Poseidon, and I was mildly inclined towards the same for Dagda. This video has heavily reinforced that position. Hades seems to have been invented during the Greek dark age, as we have no evidence for the entity in Mycenaean Greece. Conversely, Poseidon, as the Earthshaker, rather than as the sea, was the head of the (cthonic, and death-and-rebirth-emphasizing) pantheon. Poseidon seems to have there also been husband to Demeter and/or Persephone, and perhaps through that marriage, overlord of the underworld. I suspect that the use of another Saturnine deity-Cronus/Saturn-may be an explanatory holdover to explain the transition from the Mycenaean Saturn/death-and-rebirth and fertility religion to the Hellenic Jupiter/sky religion. I think Mycenaean Poseidon is a more likely cognate for Dagda than Hades. There is evidence that suggests that Odin may have been a later, foreign import as well, who supplanted Tyr as head of the pantheon. The same might be true of Poseidon, and _perhaps_ Dagda to Nuada as well.
Yes, I was aware of the Baleygr connection, but there are numerous other things which they share in common. I didn't want the video to just become me comparing and contrasting Odin and the Dagda though so I decided to skip it. Maybe it could be a future video. However, there are a number of areas in which they are not similar. In Celtic traditions, it is Lug who is master of war and decider of victory, equivalent to an important aspect of Odin. He is also linked to prophecy and kingship. The reason why I think there is a Mercurial connection with Odin is his seeking for knowledge from the dead. This connection with the dead and knowledge would have seemed akin to Hermes, but there are a number of connections, some of which I deal with in my video on Hermes. Also, since Saturn didn't get much worship in Rome by the Imperial period, it was rare for gods to be interpreted as Saturn, but there are some Roman accounts of the worship of Saturn among the Gauls.
Óðinn and Dagda do indeed have a great deal in common. Their names 'Allfather' of course. Then there is their association with the dead and mounds. Their association with ravens as Óðinn has two ravens(Huginn and Muninn) and Dagda being married to the raven goddess of war, the Morrigan. The fact that the Dagda wears 7 shrouds and Óðinn is even often referred to as Grimnir, the masked one.
There's a couple of other sort of related deities such as Prometheus from Greek myth who was punished for bringing fire to humans, as in enlightenment but it makes him a god of fire. It's also similar to Odin being hung from Yggdrasil to gain knowledge. There is also Shiva from Indian tradition. Tolkien used Odin as inspiration for Gandalf, the old grey wanderer.
Wikipedia is not a good source of information.
„GRÍMA, u, f. [A. S. grîma; Dan. grime = a horse's halter], a kind of hood or cowl covering the upper part of the face, Edda (Gl.), Sks. 304, Þórð. 30; ríðr Barði at Snorra Goða ok hefir grímu á höfði sér, Ísl. ii. 378, Mirm. 58. β. armour covering a horse's breast, a poitrail; en utan yfir beisli ok um allt höfuð hestsins ok um háls framan ok til söðuls þá skal vera g. gör á panzara lund, Sks. 405: the beak on a ship, gyldar grímur, Gkv. 2. 16: grímu-eiðr, m. a Norse law term, a kind of oath taken by six compurgators, an GREEK, N. G. L. i. 56 (vide eiðr); the origin of the name is uncertain, perhaps the compurgators had to appear in court in cowls: grímu-maðr, m. a cowled man, a man in disguise, Fb. i. 509, Fas. iii. 321, N. G. L. i. 175. II. metaph. the night, poët., Alm. 31, Edda (Gl.), Lex. Poët.; óróar gríma, a night of woe, Stor. 18; so in the saying, hverf er haust-gríma, shifty is the autumn night, Hm. 73: curious is the phrase, það renna á e-n tvær grímur, one wavers, is uncertain, það runnu á mig tvær grímur; the metaphor is either derived from a horse's halter or hood = doubly hoodwinked or from the night = in double darkness. UNCERTAIN Grímr and Grímnir are names of Odin from his travelling in disguise, Edda: Grímr also is freq. a masc. pr. name, and in compds, Þor-grímr, Ás-grímr, Stein-grímr, Hall-grímr, etc.; and of women Gríma, Hall-gríma, etc.; prefixed in Grím-kell, Grím-úlfr, etc.: a serpent is in poetry called grímr.
A cowl, a horse and a man that is unfamiliar or disguised is likely the implication of the heiti Grímni. Mask is a bit of the stretch but most of it helps support the arguments present.
Helpful feedback. Thank you for your time and knowledge
@@damionkeeling3103 uh Shiva isn't the all father. That's Brahma, Shiva is the "son" of the Trinity.
Brahma is the composer of reality, a master of music, far more comparable to Dagda than Shiva but modern Hindus give Shiva credit for everything like how modern Christians give Jesus all the credit.
It's just a blatant misunderstanding of the 3 Deity team that makes up the Trinity. They work TOGETHER (I know crazy concept) and therefore their incarnations would have access to the abilities of all 3.
I took an ancestry DNA test and my highest percentage was Scotland. I just wanted to say I appreciate you making these videos to gain knowledge and insight of my Celtic heritage. As soon as I can donate I will. Thank you sir for the work you do it is truly appreciated!
Scotland- Gaelic
Dagda is Irish tbh. Scots are basically just English...the ones who are not Pakistani lol
I’m welsh. Our gods are really hard the learn about
This is the most I ever learned about the Dagdha. Ever. Never in my own research have I made the connection that the Dagdha could also be Cernunnos. This is fascination, I love this channel.
nah not cernunnos ....an dagdha is ira 3rd battalion ...he is getting the boys back together..
Yeah he is Cernunnos, Also Woden.
Have you noticed the extreme similarities to Cernunos on the Celtic Gundestrup cauldron from Denmark and the Pashupati seal from the Indus valley? The two images are practically identical.
I heard on another video that it is theorised that cernunnos is likely the primordial ancient God in Europe and as time went and societies changed aswell as other influences we ended up with pagan branches based from cernuunos but in particular Odin(in whichever version you choose) and dagdha.
It's believed there very likely was a basic all round God in our very early days before things became more complex and society evolved.
It's even more likely since concepts of 'god of' aswell as heaven, hell and even Valhalla were modern concepts in the grand scheme of thing.
We at one point wouldn't have needed many gods when everything about Hunter gatherer culture then as time evolved and things like large scale wars and separations and divides occurred with profit and privilege became a thing, every changed.
Unfortunately, due to the fires of Alexandria any proper evidence based knowledge on this topic was likely destroyed forever.
I should say cernunnos most likely is far from what that original God was called it's just all we have I guess to refer to them as.
@@blakey9089I don’t thing the mythogems of IE history point to a single god.
George Dumezil has found that the IE pattern has a “Mitra-Varuna” principle (dual-chieftain) and the tripartite organizational lore structure of Warfare, Priest craft, and Fertility to round out everything IE’s touched.
Monotheism is subversive
You and Crecganford coming out with some highly interesting videos had made my week thank you.
I literally live at the bottom of the hill at Aileach where the fort of Grianan is you caught my house in the frame! But I have such a huge fascination of the spiritual understanding and empathy with the environment the druids of prehistoric Ireland had and how their beliefs influenced their religion and ways of life. Very interesting as a cultural synopsis to include the cultural correlations between that of others and their bidirectional relationship! Great work loved every min! Honestly I believe that having direct linkage to this inherent interest, culture and exposure to the megaliths such as Grianan and Newgrange, with some of my family owning some ground some monuments are on that this cultural identity can live on through folk like myself! Ana mhaith !
Lucky duck.
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Thats exactly as it should be. Our mythology and beliefs are a reflection of the European consciousness. Im celto-norse. My family is from Barra in the hebrides, and also isle of skye. I hope to one day go there and never leave.
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Real druids are bloodthirsty black magicians, and many politicians today consult and or are druids, as are many freemasons and other kabbalists. Right now the world is in the end times prophesied in the one true religion, with a great deception of false worldly "good" coming very soon, which if one is deceived by, they sever themselves permanently from GOD and are damned.
So it is time to set down all fantastical delusions and focus strongly on reality to prepare for the coming spiritual war for our eternal souls.
Not even a tenth of the way through, and I can already tell this one is good and well researched. I’ll watch this whole thing by the beach on Sunday.
Aside from the good information, for which many thanks, I'm enjoying hearing you speak the old names and words.
I think we mostly forgot this stuff in Ireland. Some people here remember, I am trying myself to find out about it. If I go to Stone circles or fairy forts, I can feel the energy there. I think the boundary between dimensions is easier to cross there.
I have lost count of the times I've listened to this one. I suffer from the same lack of ability to pay attention for much more than a "short", as most others, but this is so well told and extremely enchanting that it holds you from start til finish. Very well done, does not even come close to do this work justice, so all that can be said is, thank you.
bright blessing of the sun and water to you .
Da Dagda has guided me on my journey in this life for 7 years now as i de-colonialized my mind set to rid myself a life time of religious conditioning .
the good God , my Grand God , his dark sided nature that i did not see , so i thank you for answering some questions , things make more sense now thanks to the work you have done and continue to do , i guess to be joined to the Morrigan is a task and she will have a dark effect on anyone .
i see Da Dagda as the caller of the seasons , the one who builds the Sidh and the Chief of the De Dannan .
he will do anything to protect his family the Tuatha and the land ,
i see the sun rise and i see Da Dagda .
thank you and be safe from the foots hills on south Dublin ,under the gaze of SeeFinn.
Why do you think Morrigan has a dark effect ?That's not my experience.
Jesus is God.
@@saraohm9753 sure he is you keep telling your self that
Congratulations, you've put a huge amount of work into this. It's going to take me a while to get through but I'm looking forward to it.
The Dagda as a god of the underworld (at least the good parts of it) makes a lot more sense when you consider Brigid as the Dawn goddess. The sun does appear to come out of the earth in the horizon.
Solstice Blessings to all who wish to receive...
love some of these posts man.
Aye Happy feast to you.
Happy 🌞 Summer
I cannot thank you enough for this work you are doing. Listening to it I can not stop crying. Being predominantly of Celtic genes I truly revere and cherish the lore of my ancestors whose ways were hidden for so long. 😢 My relationship with the world itself rings so true with the lore of the Dagda. Beannacht der leat 🐇🌿💚
Crying...lol...why...loser
Ah whish your creening wirra. 😂
@manueldumont3709gibberish.
Agree 💯 ❤❤❤
I appreciate how much information you’ve put together here. Thanks
Simply the best channel on UA-cam
Not a dull moment in history or on the Lugh-- thanks for passing on such knowledge.
I appreciate your exacting and persistent efforts to find a reasonable framework for pronunciation that sounds true to history, yet is accessible to modern speakers.
As the Dagda is referred to as holding an iron staff, we can assume that he came during the iron age either at the beginning and displacing the original stone builders or during the iron age where he introduced Druidisim, this means that he was several thousands of years later than the late stone age and early bronze age stone circles and standing stone era. Also recorded battles amongst Druids were often verbal battles over a piece of Philosophy or a new direction/ceremony rather than blood and guts fighting.
The iron age isn't the age iron was first discovered. Just because something happened in let's say the bronze age it doesn't mean only bronze was available. Those are named as such because these metals became much more common and widely used throughout.
@@nicholasthompson6152 You are being free with the ages of discovery, the earliest use of iron so far discovered was approx 1200bc in eastern Turkey and although it fits in with the migrations of people from 'anatolia/Turkey' approx 1200bc it is unlikely to be earlier and probably quite a bit later than this earliest date. So what I am suggesting is that as the stone megalith circle and mound building time span was typically 5800bc to 1200bc stone age and through all of the european bronze age, for a 'traveller' band to show up holding an iron staff has to be later than 1200bc, well outside the construction time span of say Newgrange. but it does fit in with migrants invading and killing off either with disease or a new culture takeover which may have being what stopped the actual Stone/Megalithic buildings. So at best you are subtly correct but it is certainly later than 1200bc as iron wasn't widely known or smelted for many hundreds of years due to its rubbish properties of corrosion, brittilness and difficulty in smelting but yes a 'priest/shaman' would more likely have it than a war leader
@@hawklord100 yes and I am. But myths evolve over time is the staff being made of iron an automatic indication that the myth is only so old? Truth be told I'm not an expert on Celtic myths it just seemed like a fair point to offer.
@@hawklord100 also they've found examples of iron beads supposedly dated to 3200 bc. Iron does rust so it's also a miracle to find any from anywhere once you go so far back
@@nicholasthompson6152 Trying hard, but it don't work the DNA show the dates of migrations, and the DNA shows how the older DNA of the stone bbuilders were from central asia/Ukraine/Crimia The Dagda was ajonny come lately, no celtic myths of the stone builders exist because they were not Celtic peoples, spoke a different langauge, had a different culture and belief system to the Dagda and Druids
Thank you for preserving and sharing the tales of our ancestors! This was fantastic!
Fantastic! Thank you! I'll have to re watch so I can make note of all your text mentions. I enjoy being able to read them, if they've been translated that is.
Lugh was just the SOMETIMES king of the tuathe (the celtic bronze age Poseidon) The Dagda (or Daire as his name was) was the high god worshipped by the other sons of ethniu. Dagda is almost the god of god's (like Ra in Egypt) Lugh
What is the source for the claim Daire is another name for the Dagda? I have not been able to confirm this. However, the Genealogy of the clan of Laigda says Daire is also called Lughaidh.
@@FortressofLugh Firstly thanks for the most interesting response I've ever had to a youtube comment. Secondly I can't recall and failed to find a source, however in looking it turns out the word "Darragh" is the root origin of both daire/dara and dagda LOL. It's very interesting Daire=Lughaidh in the Laigda geneology but clan genealogies are IMO the least reliable form of texts and generally invent a fake foreign origin like with the Macdonalds, Campbells and Frasers (all disproven with Y chromosome studies). It is still a very interesting link though.
@@FortressofLugh P.S: Thankyou for this channel, it's by far the best celtic and probably the best indo european mythology channel on youtube in terms of actual analysis and deduction of primary/good secondary sources. Keep it up, fear-daimh.
@@simonfraser6365 really? So what are U saying- about fake Fraser name -to a clan -via y chromosome? And does it refer to all clans? I'm confused. Please reply.
@@rachaeldover5170 You're certainly confused, that much is clear. Try asking a grammatically correct question and I might answer it, as it stands your question is objectively gibberish.
Great share. I’ve watched a dozen or more great historical videos on other pieces and perspectives of these stories and something beyond the imagination of the average mind is coming together. I’m 30, my whole life our story (through my moms side) passed down was that my great grandfather was half Cherokee born of a chiefs daughter and his father full blood Scottish, the 23&Me came up showing Ireland, and now I’m on this virtual and meditative quest for answers about these bloodlines, no matter how diverse my family has become even a small percentage holds us family with the whole world and so when I travel carrying these wisdoms and truths with me, may we all come together in the knowing and the true teachings. 🙏🏼💫
Thanks for the great presentation. Brilliant as always.
We still make Brigids crosses in Ireland every Imbolc (feb 1st) they are hung up over the fireplace. She is believed to protect the home from fire :)
How on earth do you have so few subs? Your accuracy and knowledge is amazing. Being able to take information and putting it into a format of education can be quite difficult. I will keep an eye on you!
Thank you for that video! I once read about the Dagda (a life ago) and have not found that source ever again. Everything I found on the Internet sounded not right. But now I remember, thank you.
The Dagda has both Cthonic and Indo-European attributes. Sounds like a High King/Priest or Druid position of the pre-existing common folk. Later, Llugh is the high leader but Dagda is still present in his role. The Dagda is the only one who weds the Moriggan. Llugh only receives her blessing and she decides whether to enter the battle on the side of the Formorians, the Tuatha De/Fir Bolg under Llugh or not engage at all.
So it seems the Moriggan and the Dagda may have been Neolithic roles of High PriestKing and High PriestessQueen elevated into Deities and incorporated into the new Tuatha De Danaan pantheon.
"Muh historicism"
Stfu
I don't live in Erin but my people (Collins) are from Kent. Embracing my families ancestral roots I've incorporated Irish lore and mythos into my spiritual, homely and familial praxis. My great grand mother and her kin from Kent brought the faeree over with them and the subtle practice survived in my family.
And I'm sure Curnnunos as the Romans called him is actually De Dagda in one of his aspects. As the cauldron was his most important tool, and it was a regeneration cauldron for the dead, it makes sense.
Keep up the good work. Like the video.
I had a theory recently while studying celtic linguistics that Sucellos' name doesn't mean "the good striker" but rather "the well hidden" or "the good hidden one" as cellos looks to me like it comes from the root cel- meaning "to hide".
I further connect this to the ethnic or tribal name Celtae / Keltoi, as I think this comes from the past participle form of the root cel which would have been celtios, in the plural celtioi, thus making the word mean something like "(they who are) hidden" perhaps a reference to the fact they believed themselves descended from Sucellos.
This can be supported by the fact that Julius Caesar says the gauls believe themselves the descendants of Dis Pater, and with Sucellos likely being the celtic hades, it's an interesting connection.
Also I noticed that the story of Bran's invasion of Ireland to take back his sister sounds a lot like the Persephone story of a goddess entering the under world with a distraught relative who wants them to return.
Anything's possible, personally I think Celtae and Galatae are derived from the same word and perhaps related to caled - hard. Where does the t come from if Celt comes from cel? Wouldn't plural be Celae, Celici or similar?
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Outstanding work. As one clarifies the characters in the myth and lore of various cultures - they can see similarities without the presumption that the deity or character had to actually be the same entities. The personification of spirits and aspects of life originally made them easier to understand. Now folks seem too literal and have lost how to get the essence of what is to be learned. You did a sterling job of covering this material. Thank you for your hard work and diligent research.
I appriciate you and your content so very much. The amount of work that you must've put into just this one video is astounding. I live in the states, more specifically, Pittsburgh. We have the Carnegie Library which is one of the greater libraries in the country. But....but, the amount of time I'd have to put into JUST FINDING the literature to tell me what this hour long video tells would literally take me weeks. So, thank you very much. Liked, subscribed, shared and all that stuff. Good luck in your personal future as well as this great channel.
This is utterly fascinating, thank you so much for all your hard work! I think "regular" Christian chroniclers might get a bad rep undeservedly. Those with an agenda - as with academics today that are trying to prove a point or make a name for themselves within the current framework of scholastics - sure, they will color their findings to suit what is "popular". But genuinely curious people who believed EVERYTHING would reflect the truth in one way or another, I think, would just record what they saw and heard of belief and folklore honestly - hoping that someone one day would understand it better. That might be naïve, but I really don't think so. It is how working anthropologists, archeologists, and free lance enthusiasts of a particular subject work to this day. Thanks again for all your work!!
Things are connected in one way or another. Sometimes you have to dig deeply, but the connection is there.
It's amazing how mythology around the world has the same themes and ideas. While discussing "The "Eye".... the association of light, fire and sight....made me think of RAH the Sun God of Egypt. Just one of the many likenesses......
Also the Merlin Saga by T.A. Barron uses much of the Celtic pantheon in it's story, which is what originally started me down the path of reading mythology. Highly recommend to anyone who wants Celtic or Arthurian influenced stories!
I really want to revisit those books.
@@winnalexanderThey hold up as well as children's lit can. Definitely worth a revisit as an adult.
..by the light of lugh
AND THE TRUTH OF
THE DAGDA
AND THE WANDERINGS OF ANGUS AND THE GOOD
MILK OF BRIGHID
..THANKYOU
Have you read the recently published book Taliesins map by J. Dolan? If not I’d highly recommend it it’s a comparative guide to Celtic myth through an indo-European perspective. Right up your alley.
Thank you for sharing your recommendation
Do you have a link?
I will look for it
Cheers mate, will have to find it
The Celts are "Indo-European"
38:17 That sounds very much like the rivalry between Baldur and Hodr in Saxo's version of the tale.
Thank you so much for making this video! I found it very insightful, detailed, and fascinating. Your efforts are much appreciated!
I'm curious why the narration is done with an English accent? Americans never cease to bewilder me. So much effort in one area and huge oversights in others from our accents to pronunciations.
It's not an English accent. American speaking English possibly
Maybe because they aint no such thing and a impossibility of a American being a celt, the English have more Celt DNA than American born in America even though The English are a different type of Keltoi tribe...
Bhi an Dagdha laidir ag an am sin.
P.S. Thanks for brushing up on Gaeilge pronunciation!
I've already watched some videos about Dagda, but this is the first time I've watched a video with such a detailed and perfect explanation! Brilliant stuff!👏 👏👏
Thank you so much! So much info! Can’t wait to dive in to the next one! ❤❤
Thanks!
Thank you
Thank you so much for these videos, they're so instructing and interesting
Thank you for the information that you have been telling us! This is awesome! I am learning so much more than what I have been able to find on my own. Blessed be.
One of the things i value most greatly is knowing the truth- to the best of our ability. Thank you for this and all your endeavors. This means a lot to me.
You are spot on with all you have said here. I researched this stuff all my life. Bridget was so popular the pagens made her a saint
I may be crazy but this is sounding a lot like Odin ( grey wanderer, many guises and names, association with death and sorcery, association with horses, the great father or father of many)
Edit after watching later in the video : ok I'm not the only one who sees it
Edit: you may have missed a parallel "turned aside the spears and weapons of Lugh " one of the skills Odin was said to gain from the Runes is " to turn aside the weapons of enemies "
And of course there's also all the "eye" motifs "fiery eye" "one eye" etc
This kind of correlation is why a lot of celtic pagans look to Nordic and germanic pagans for reconstruction of their ancient myths and religion.
@@Hyperguyver2 as well they can to a degree and I'd throw Slavic mythology in there as well
@@daltonmortimer7735 especially since they all eventually go back to the Indo-European traditions.
@@Hyperguyver2 agreed
@@Hyperguyver2 😂😂😂😂 stopppit
Very much enjoyed, thank you, being a Hoy, Hoey, Haughey, Tuatha De Danann, Haey, East Iceland Old Norse, Hoy Island Orkney, direct lineage and descendents of the Darini, Dal Fiatch dynasty, really do feel a connection, all the very best health and happiness.
As soon as i have money i want to send your patreon. I appreciate all the hard work you do.
Absolutely phenomenal work, thank you so much.
I've always loved the Swastika right in the very centre of the picture that is synonymous with the Tuatha De on the horses girdle
Kevin I've just completed watching this episode..a veritable masterpiece and treasure trove of information..Thank you 🌹🍀🧙♂️
I've disbelieved what I have been casually told much of my life that I am of Celtic or Scottish blood. One family I met in Portugal told me that to their eyes, I descended from a daughter of "The Dagda". Having no knowledge of any Celtic histories or mythology nor any family members who relate back, I thanked them as the context they applied was one of strength and courage. I was young and dismissed the talk and secreted my irritation that people see my coloring and label me w certain characteristics, capabilities and origins. My mothers line came from Northern France as an extended group with locks auburn and skin pale. I within myself denied the possibility. In hindsight, many times seeing art or hearing dialects and even certain beliefs of objects of power held my attention and admiration while not allowing personal application. I took the ancestry DNA test this year. Northwester Europe, England 41% Scotland 22% Ireland 11% which is 73% of myself stares me in the face. I plead w my ancestor guides to forgive my blindness, please hold no malice as I have followed in the manner guided but denied I could claim connection to the knots that are tied. So now I want to know the histories closest to correct as far as can be known and have been selective with what I put in my mind as being congruent with the ringing of Celtic truths. I read here that those who know have said this video aligns with the truth they know. Would that I'd asked for more from the family in Portugal as why and what else they could have told me had I not been in denial being told "Northern France" all my life. I'll rewatch this many times no doubt.
There were Celts , later mixed + local
Liberians as Celt--- Iberians in part of modern Spain. Even today, in NW of Spain there is Celtic group called Galicians (Gallegos = Gallegos in Spanish), they speak their own Latin
style language. In Portugal, there are at least 2 provinces where local folk music
still sounds Irish or Scottish--- Tras, os, Montes, + ?? . So there are connections.
Northern france makes sense with your dna. You weren't in denial thinking that. Your dna shows that possibility.
@@tymanung6382 I just now see this, sorry for late response. You are so right about the music in Portugal, I lived on Teceria Iland and the celt influence sounds dance and wool socks the lace making wow thanks much.
Thank you for all of your hard work, a subject that fascinates me, I have learned a lot today, thanks again, I am sure to watch this more than once,
Very interesting. Thank you for doing the research and posting.
Ironically Birch being used as something in a purification ritual makes total sense because if one makes it tea out of the bark or leaves of certain birch trees it has a blood purifying effect getting rid of toxins and infections.
I welcome your return.
A savour your insights.
Never heard of dagda having horns before I only heard of crom possibly being the Gaelic Cernunnos Dagda is more like sucellus if you're talking Gaulish Gael relation however I'd be interested in seeing where the info of him with horns came from
The Dagda doesn't have horns but an aspect of him as Fer Benn might. The Dagda is also known as Ruad Rofhessa - red one of great knowledge. He could be linked to the Romano-British god Cocidius whose name probably means red one and is depicted as a warrior with horns and also associated with the Roman god Silvanus. The Gaulish god Sucellos who is likened to Dagda is also twinned with Silvanus by the Romans. Cocidius is also associated with Mars so the connection between gods from different religions is not a one for one.
I am going to have to down load this on my phone to listen as I close my eyes to sleep. For your story telling is soothing to my soul! Many Blessings 🙏🌞🌚🕸🗻🍀
💖 wonderous! Will have to listen agai n. Tons of fascinating material. Thanks for your video.
You've outdone yourself, sir!
Thank you, for referencing the literature. I'm always looking for new books.
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I also thought The Dagda seemed a likely candidate for the Cernunnos figure, until Ceisiwr Serith’s “Looking Every Which Way” convinced me there is reason to consider Lugh as the horned god, or antlered at least.
It is true, a bull figure if related to the ancient fertility cult might be more likely to be the Dagda.
I would be open to consider the Cernunnos figure in this way.
Bible says Moses had horns. It also calls him the accuser. Methinks Moses was the horned god.
@@joltjolt5060 the Bible doesn't say that Moses had horns. It's a mistranslation. When Moses descended the Mountain having been in the presence of the Creator and Sovereign, his face emitted glorious rays. He covered his face because the people were unable to look upon him. The statue of Moses in Rome depicts the mistranslation.
Moses was also "the accuser" said jesus, and had horns
Oh happy days! Just in time for our Winter Solstice down South 🌹🧙♂️..Thank you Kevin 🍀
Thank you for sharing. Sending love from Ontario Canada ❤️🎶🍁
Look into it deeper: the sources are Irish. People always steal Irish culture. British loyalists even stole the red hand symbol, which is a symbol of the O'Neill dynasty North and South, an Irish symbol.
Thank you. its important work you do. Remembering is our greatest resistance after warriors fall.
So one of three brothers, crated the world, practice the Gaelic version of Seiðr, king of gods, the Alfaðr, a rider, hooded/concealed one, mysterious god with many names - there’s certainly some very interesting similarities with Óðinn, possibly sharing the same roots
Noah and his 3 sons
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Noah never existed - the Abrahamic Flood fairytale is basically just poorly written fantasy fiction based on the epic of Gilgamesh!
And as you bring up Noah, Viasudra, I will bring up the similarities to The Dadgan and Enki, both of whom share a connection to Osiris and Odin.
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I didn’t bring up Noah!
The Abrahamic fairytales are a waste of time!
Good to see you back man!
Thank you for this video. ☘️
You got me with 'poetry'...
(added w/edit: "sweet sounding and radiant")
This presentation is wonderful! Thanks for making it.
Thank you for sharing with us!
Great vids. I am a Christian but I love learning about various mythologies. I watched the Historicat's video on the Druids but I was disappointed because he dismissed all the written sources as being created whole cloth by Christian monks. It's nice to see a more nuanced take
Christianity is mythology too. Someday you will see.
@@feloniousbutterfly Folks can decide their own path. And see where truth leads.
I've had the distinct pleasure of walking in the tomb at Newgrange with my father and daughter before the huge visitor park was built around it. Amazing.
This was fantastic. Thank you so much for your work!
Thank you for the history breakdown, I understand more than ever about lineage.
Where is the footage with the man in the hood and the mask from? It looks great
This video was very illuminating. Thank you
I enjoyed this very much!, thank you for your work! Beautiful in the way elemental wisdom is expressed. My takeaway is all about the water element. The element of water and the way it flows, trancends, mutates and expresses itself through the different fases of cardenal proceses (natural law) and mutible processes (imagination/spiritual/psych) ways to express. I think every person alive can learn something here ;)
31:50 So your saying he had the boots with the fur, and she asked him to take her down low, low, low?
31:57
"BOOTS WITH THE FURRRR"
It is nice to know the rich ancient religion ( or mythology) of the lands of great Britain and Ireland.
Even so, I strongly believe that Dagda is the continuation of the IE Sky Father.
He is, but as religions evolve less emphasis is placed on certain deities over others while others get elevated. There's a Norse god called Tiw whose name seems to be just 'god' suggesting he might have been more important once like an earlier version of Thor. Gods called just god like Dagda and Zeus tend to be important.
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Thank you for your work ❤
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Oh yes I studied accounts of tge Dogda from a WICCAN teacher years ago. I love the Irish. Morrigana is Irish.
Archangel Michael
Wonderfilled lesson, TYSM.
Funny that the tuning for many Celtic folk music tunes is the DADGAD tuning
On a guitar?
@@ruthanneseven yea, on a guitar. Sorry i forgot to mention that 😅
Excellent video,
Thank you.
I see a connection to The Dagma with Enki, the trick eater god of fertility, of All Crafts And Art, Knowledge The Earth And Water of Sumerian. He is also linked with Odin and Osiris and in my opinion the Druids overall.
I’m looking forward to seeing your other videos.
My Father from Two Rivers Wisconsin, our Ancestor From Enkirch Germany, so many puzzle peices. My Mother a Druid asks Christian Missionary from Christchurch England, where Jesus once worked as A Caperneter during the creation of the bell tower, she took me to stone Henge at age Three.
Many are the ways to learn.
Peace be with you.
Jeremy Alan Burmeister
So interesting hearing about my ancestors mythologies
Thanks very much, super enjoyable
I have a friend who is Finnish and I went there one summer. I learned about this thing they do there called "birching" in English where they go to the sauna and beat each other with the branches of a birch. It actually feels very good on the skin and has the tradition of driving out the evils yet lingering from the time of darkness (winter and, in the more northern parts of Finland, it seems little light comes to it during that season. It also seems Swedes and Norwegians have a similar practice but I can't verify that. If so, it would seem there are some interesting parallels beyond the similarities of the gods.
When I was in HS we used to go to a Finnish sauna all the time.
Wonderful video, thank you.
Also an interesting but little known fact, the dagda was cast as Rubeus Hagrid in the live action film adaptation of Harry Potter. Every bit of magic you see him do in the films is him actually making those things happen, it isn’t edited.
Hummmm interesting thanks!!
Up the dosage and mind the busses
Absolutely wonderful thank you
Thanks for the history and the research done
Michael Moorecock wrote a lot about these mythologies. Great books
A few points:
One of Odin's titles/epithets was 'Baleygr', roughly meaning 'of the burning eyes'. I suspect that is a conceptual (if not linguistic) cognate to 'fire of the eyelid'.
I have, for a while, been of the position that Odin's true typal/archetypal cognate is, to use astrological terms, not Mercury, but Saturn, and more of a cognate for Dionysus (who, especially in earlier veneration, was emphasized more as a god of madness, death and rebirth, altered states of consciousness, power, and possibly the prophesied son of Zeus stronger than his father) and Mycenaean (rather than Hellenic) Poseidon, and I was mildly inclined towards the same for Dagda. This video has heavily reinforced that position.
Hades seems to have been invented during the Greek dark age, as we have no evidence for the entity in Mycenaean Greece. Conversely, Poseidon, as the Earthshaker, rather than as the sea, was the head of the (cthonic, and death-and-rebirth-emphasizing) pantheon. Poseidon seems to have there also been husband to Demeter and/or Persephone, and perhaps through that marriage, overlord of the underworld. I suspect that the use of another Saturnine deity-Cronus/Saturn-may be an explanatory holdover to explain the transition from the Mycenaean Saturn/death-and-rebirth and fertility religion to the Hellenic Jupiter/sky religion. I think Mycenaean Poseidon is a more likely cognate for Dagda than Hades.
There is evidence that suggests that Odin may have been a later, foreign import as well, who supplanted Tyr as head of the pantheon. The same might be true of Poseidon, and _perhaps_ Dagda to Nuada as well.
Yes, I was aware of the Baleygr connection, but there are numerous other things which they share in common. I didn't want the video to just become me comparing and contrasting Odin and the Dagda though so I decided to skip it. Maybe it could be a future video. However, there are a number of areas in which they are not similar. In Celtic traditions, it is Lug who is master of war and decider of victory, equivalent to an important aspect of Odin. He is also linked to prophecy and kingship. The reason why I think there is a Mercurial connection with Odin is his seeking for knowledge from the dead. This connection with the dead and knowledge would have seemed akin to Hermes, but there are a number of connections, some of which I deal with in my video on Hermes. Also, since Saturn didn't get much worship in Rome by the Imperial period, it was rare for gods to be interpreted as Saturn, but there are some Roman accounts of the worship of Saturn among the Gauls.
Excellent work