It's funny that 95% of ALL cars sold in the U.S. are automatics, and yet, so many manual owners make nasty comments about people (yes, people, not the cars themselves), who buy automatics. There is a name for people who think they are better than 95% of the people in their own country, they're called douchebags. I've driven big rig trucks, with 10,13,15 and 18 speed transmissions, with double trailers, on mountain roads. Does that somehow make me manlier than some guy, who's never driven a big powerful truck, with 18 gears to shift? Do I have to turn in my "Man Card", for buying my 2012 auto Mustang, after owning 10 manual shift cars, in 35 years? Most guys are so prissy, fussy, picky and whiny, when it comes to their preferred computers, phones and electronic devices, that will do everything for them, except wipe their butts. But, now all of a sudden, those same guys are super manly when it comes to their cars having manual shifters. What a load of crap! If you're so fucking manly, then why don't you just trash your precious cell phones and start building fires with only a knife, some sticks and dried leaves and learn how to send smoke signals? Because, that would be pretty fucking manly too. If you're gonna give people crap for driving an auto, then don't you dare ever drink anything again, with the name "Latte" in it. And don't ever take a "selfie" and send it on your phone with the caption, "loving it". And don't ever buy a puppy or a cat for your wife or girlfriend (yeah, right! It was only for them). And don't ever order a drink that isn't beer or straight booze. Honestly guys, it gets really old, hearing all this macho crap all the time. When I drove a beastly, old, big rig diesel truck, with 8 gears and two separate sticks that had to be shifted sequentially and independently, I didn't feel any more manly, than when I drive my auto Mustang and some pretty woman smiles at me says, "nice car". I'm still the same guy, no matter what I'm driving.
thanks man. finally words of logic!!! (especially when it comes to mustangs) so fed up of hearing idiotic things when people say "automatic is for pussies" wtf:)
I agree with you 100%. I have driven manual GT's and love them. They are a blast, but not so much when you live in a big city with horrible traffic. Driving an auto doesn't make you, or anyone else less than a man.
I am Lucky that my wife supported me in getting my 2013 Mustang GT. We got in auto so that we could both drive it. After we got it tuned it ran better than a manual. I am so happy that I married such a understanding beautiful women. could be driving a mini van. Cool car check, Beautiful wife check.
Yeah he kinda talks alot of crap on the auto, but I have one too. And I down shift it every day for shits and giggles. It's not needed but it's fun to rip around in the lower gears. Once you learn how it works then you know exactly how to time it and get a proper down shift. Hell I could show this guy how to do it better for his video lol 😆 And if you really want to rip into someone, just throw it in drive and haul ass. Also he never said anything about how reliable they are. I beat the hell out of mine, and takes it like a champ, already got 105 thousand on it too. For some reason I don't hear the same about those tremmec Manuels tho huh?? 🤔 These automatics are way underrated, and they are way cheaper then the Manuel too. I really don't get all the hate
@@churlafangaming1671 I will definitely keep it in mind. I want to do some mods and upgrades to it soon. And I appreciate the advice you give 👍. Just got her all paid off, so soon I will be investing into some more power to the ground lol 😆
Yep, that crappy automatic will handle over 1,000 horsepower stock but the manual 6 speed fails frequently with just 420 horsepower. I'll take the automatic on race day and daily driving. Sure, the stick is more fun until your broken in your driveway.
The 6 speed autos in these s197 5.0s are no where near crap they're well built, they may have some lag in between shifts but that can easily be addressed witha tune
People who hate automatics are people look for the hard way to do things in life even if the easier way is right in front of them they'll look for a difficult way to do it.
Thanks. I did forget to mention one very important thing.... If you want to drag race the automatic can be reprogrammed to be much faster in the 1/4 mile.
To comment of the auto trans flushing down the toilet, typically I would agree. Unfortunately, the MT82 is a Chinese turd. Wanna go fast-constantly-auto in these cars are impeccable!
I really appreciate how neutral this review was. Most people come into reviews with set expectations and I didnt see that you had any. Good job, you just gained one more Subscriber.
I have a 2012 automatic with a BAMA tune, now the transmission works like it should from the factory, very crisp: at WOT, chirps in 1st, 2nd and 3rd. I also upgraded to 3.73 gears and a Steeda CAI. Goes like a bat. I used to have a 2005 Mustang GT with a whipple - made 490 RWP and ran 12.006 in the 1/4. I think this car would give it a run. The 2013 has track apps that make it more fun to race as well.
Same feelings about the auto in stock form BUT when you get an SCT tune done it changes EVERYTHING. The shift points are crisp and under WOT it shift EXACTLY at redline. Agree about the gearing too. Much better with 3.73 or 3.90's with an auto trans. The 4.10 is to steep for me and cuts into everyday gas mileage to much.
I have an 07 Stang GT auto and it works great. This guy just really prefers a stick to an auto. For a weekend car to play with I would also prefer the stick (I've owned manuals my entire life) but to use in traffic as a daily driver I prefer the auto all day.
The Auto Transmission in a Mustang behaves differently whether its shifted into D or into S. On the 2013 Mustang, D is for daily driving and S is Sport Mode. Wonder if this guy used Sport Mode because it looks to me like he shifted into D.
Hey man Im probably going to buy a 2013 auto because my wife cannot drive stick. Do you have experience with the auto and how well it shifts? If so could you let me know if theres a big difference in 0-60 time, etc.? Thanks
I test drove one today. In reality I drive a 03 V6. I did test drive an auto and it was pretty strong even though I went around a couple of blocks with it. I immediately felt the power when I barely got on the gas. I was really amazed how the car drove, when I let loose on the straight it had very good pick up and go. Today my dreams came true I'm actually looking forward to getting one in the near future even though the 15's are getting ready to come out. I'm still very much in love with this model. I might go tomorrow and do another test drive on the freeway to see how it feels since the salesmen seemed to be in a hurry.
IMHO the 2015 looks like a 2 door fusion in steroids; I was waiting for the new model to change my 2013 Gt, but now that it´s out ... It went from nicely looking muscle car to generic sports car.
How good is the automatic? Does it respond quick enough when you put your foot down? And you said something about the automatic that it doesn't let you rev it to the limit (about 7k rpm). Then what about when you use manual mode? Can you do rev-matching by downshifting and waiting a very few half seconds and then press the gas pedal?
did somebody know if the Recaro´s give more legroom than the std. seats ? Im very tall and i drove a 2012 version for about 300km nonstop and my right leg hurts because it always lay at the middle console as you can see in the vid too. i sit later in a camaro and it´s seat gives much more legroom for me.
i had a LS1 TA with auto, and I LOVED IT. And, I came from a slew of mustangs, all manual. The trans in the Transam shifted fast . Wonder why so hard for Ford to make a good auto.
Quick question for you guys. I have a 2012 Mustang and its an automatic. That being said I was wondering if you guys could tell me what the 1 2 and 3 are for on the shifting platform? Is it for up hill driving? Isn't overdrive for uphill driving? I'd really appreciate an answer. Thanks guys!!
I disagree with some of what is said in this video. 1st gear with the 6 speed auto is well over 4:1 ratio, which is very steep. A turbo 350 transmission has a 2.53:1 1st gear. That is why it comes with a 3.15 rear ratio, as the overall ratio is steep. Even 4th gear isn't a 1:1 ratio, many 4 speed autos actually have a 1:1 in 3rd gear, so this transmission is actually very well geared. I do agree with the delay in shifting in sport mode, however every review I read on these cars said the 6 speed manual is notchy and does not like to be shifted fast, so it is what it is. I am happy with the auto, reading from many of the faster 9/10/11 second cars, the auto trans is pretty much bullet proof. Finally, and this is just personal preference, I like the shifting on the stick better than on the wheel. It is a natural position to have a hand on the shifter when shifting, it has never felt natural to me to try to shift on the steering wheel.
I bet if you add 3.73 or 4.10 gears & get an SCT 93 octane Race Tune which improves the shifts of the transmission on top of the power gains, this would be a great combo. I prefer a 6 speed manual, but I would never badmouth someone for choosing an automatic. It's their car, if they wanted a manual, they'd get a manual.
I have 2012 performance pack without rear camera and park assist, never had a visibility problem backing up into a parking slot or parallel park it. Also all those electronic gizmos in the cabin are nice but also very heavy, which is a no no for a performance car. IMHO the only useful options for lover tier V6 and GT are bucket seats and brakes. Some of the bigger dealerships like Galpin outside LA also offer pre-installed Ford Racing handling pack which completely transforms the ride quality.
You've must've have the wrong Mustang man...The auto transmission is fantastic in my 2014...I changed in mine the original air intake with a JLT one and the exhaust with Borla Ataks ..she produces now a 502 HP and in Sport mode feels like a f rocket..I love that 6 speed AT, it's damn awesome..
Actually ZF box "as is" is pretty responsive and can handle upto 430ft-lb of torque with lesser power loss than MT82! BUT its software for digital clutches has been written by a someone who genuinely wanted it to have shift lag in first 3 gears in order to improve city MPG.
if i knew how to drive manual i might get one. that said i like that the mustang locks in the gears on the transmission. my acura red lines on my sportronic but it does not lock in the gears. so idk.
In my opinion, If you just want to have fun with your car and feel more connected to it get a stick shift but if you just want to cruise in it or use it for everyday things then get an automatic . I personally prefer stick shift not just because of the mileage and price but also because it's just simply more fun to use .
I own a 2011 mustang 5.0 with the auto. Banging gears is fun, but i did not want to deal with the 6 speed manual that has issues when you power shift it. The manuals are a little faster than the auto, auto has 3.15 gears, but the auto is no slouch, mine with a tune, cold air kit and x pipe ran 12.0 at116 on factory perelli tires. No issues and mine has 10K on it so far. Ive owned over 100 cars so far, autos are nice, 6 forward gears gotta love it:) Prices of the 2011s are 23K with some miles
ohhhh i'm gonna miss my 2012 GT.... 6spd..... I find the 3:31's just fine, it's just great but thats just me. but then again...only a few more weeks to go before I leave for working to mexico
Those of us that have drag raced Mustangs like the automatics. Go for a ride in a tuned auto in a 2011, it is night and day. Go for a ride in one with gears, tune and torque converter and it is right around low 12s to high 11s.
In realty most of us use our cars to go to work and run around town for errands .Once in a while we go for a drive on a twisty or country road ..The automatic is the cats ass for us .A manual - which I've riven most of my life is a pain in the ass in city traffic , Drag racing is just bullshit and if you do it in city streets your out of your mind ..All in all the way this mustang is optioned out is the way I would buy mine ., and the review was very well done .
Maybe the transmission ratios are different, but I remember when GM introduced the 6 speed auto in the C6 Corvette for 2006 and it came with as they called aggressive 2.56 gearing. They claimed the 2.56 gearing in the 6 speed auto is equivalent to 3.90 gearing in the previous 4 speed automatic. Then for 2008 they made the 6 speed auto available with even more aggressive 2.73 gearing which is equivalent to 4.10 gearing in a 4 speed automatic. Now this 6 speed auto in the 5.0 is 3.31 and you're saying it's extremely tall. That's pretty strange because the transmission gearing in the 3.31 geared 6 speed manual transmission in the 5.0 is a lot more aggressive than the 3.42 gearing in the 6 speed manual Corvette... Even more aggressive than the Z51 3.42 gearing which is shorter in the first three gears. I figured it would be the same with the automatic?
I'm picking up my 2013 next week. Only reason I'm getting the auto is because I fell 32' in 2010 and broke my back and neck. Although I have seen good & bad reviews on both the auto and manual. But I think the auto is more ideal for me in my situation
I live in Canada as well and I grew up around Mustangs and Camaros. I remember the year Ford decided to increase the price of the Mustang because they wanted it to compete with the Corvette instead of the Camaro. Increasing the price doesn't automatically make the car better. That was a very risky move because the Mustang is one of Ford's best sellers. People were already on the fence with imports and now Ford has made their mind up for them. I love the Mustang but not for that price.
Goin' back to the '60's 'bout automatics and street quick.. The chances of getting off the line or going from the crack of 30 are much improved with an automatic and torque converter. Stick a good rear like 3:73 or above in back of almost any automatic even an old Powerglide overcomes the chances of executing a perfect launch and 2 or 3 perfect powershifts. 5.0 auto's are indeed street quick.
i have seen alot of reviews about the auto transmission. everyone talks crap about it. well i decided to go test drive a 2013 5.0 it had an auto transmission. let me say,,its not that bad i actually liked it. the one thing i didnt like was the little rocker arm to change gears. it defiantly needs paddle shifters or a slap stick . but its an awsome car1 i liked it so much im gonna buy one next year..
for the people who arent every good with manual trans. and worry about stalling or a bumpy ride. believe me test drive it first before the auto. you will be impressed, the new manuals feels more comfortable than auto, they are harder to stall than older cars and smooth switching gears. My wife got a 2013 manual accord and it felt smoother than the automatic also i have driven the newer manual trans and its so much easier it really is, give it a shot first before going for auto so u dont miss out
I don't get why you guys are hating on the fact that he prefers manuals over autos. The stick has long been preferred over the slushbox by car enthusiasts, this guy is no different. I'm sure Jeremy Clarkson, Chris Harris, and many other well known automotive journalists would have said the same thing this guy said.
This guy is a tool, first off the Automatic is much faster in a drag race than the manual, reason for this is the first gear is 4.06 in the transmission, while the manual uses 3.66 first gear ratio. That is exactly the reason why ford didn't equip the mustang standard with anything higher than a 3:31:1 rear axle ratio. The car has a hard enough time keeping traction for the that low of a transmission first gear, let alone slapping some 3:73s to the automatic. Second they have made fast improvements in the shifting patterns of the automatic to make it competitive whether you drag race or auto cross it. This is exactly the reason why i dislike non technical savvy people reviewing cars that give the wrong information out and discouraging people.
Yup I've always driven manual all my life but decided to get a 2011 5.0 auto because of all of the horror stories I've heard about the Chinese manual. I was bored to tears! It was quick but it felt slow and none of the control you get with the manual. I wouldn't even chirp 2nd with the Ford Racing tune:/ I traded it in for a 2012 Brembo 5.0 manual and couldn't be happier! Night and day difference! Wheel hop is an issue with the brembo package is a negative but manageable.
I got an automatic because it's less effort... When I open it up on the freeway I do have the urge to shift and in those instances I wish it was a manual... but for my daily commute I see no downside to having an automatic. I will admit that when out playing on the road it is more fulfilling to be shifting gears yourself...
I'm not sure if it serves a specific purpose but I know you can upshift and downshift in those three gears, so it might just be a primitive sport mode. I never use it, it's a little silly for my taste
I'd buy an Acura as well. I know what you mean. As I get older (approaching 40) I find I am not as excited about cars as I was when I was 16. Too bad I didn't have the money back then. On second thought, probably a good thing because of my love for speed. Now, I'm happy just getting to where I need to go. Unfortunately it is really hot here. I'm in Vancouver, B.C. We are in the middle of a dry spell. Have a great day. Nice chatting with you :)
This is not the base GT, it's the premium. For the 2015 GT, I personally didn't go for the premium and got the performance package with manual instead. It all costs less and is a very good bargain for the performance.
yea i think your right, i kno it as the Ford 6R Series tho, lol i still like the 6-speed auto tho, its way more capable of producing better numbers than the standard option on the Mustang, reason why Ford gives the automatics a higher gear ratio (3.15) than the lower 3.73 gear ratio thats on all standard 5.0s.. which makes ppl think the auto Mustang is boring but really is not.. :) they do it on purpose..
I switch back and forth between auto and manual regularly. Manual is more fun, more control of car no doubt. But those that hate rush hour, automatic is a valid choice. I also find it easier to fuck with radio/ipod, talk on cell (not text), eat, etc with auto. My 5.0 is auto (slightly used so didnt get to pick trans) but its tuned and its a beast. Lol i remember my TA had such a shitty cupholder that driving manual was a total pain in the ass when had a drink in vehicle
yea i kno my man, the 6-Speed Auto has DUAL-CLUTCH which helps shift even faster than any person could with a standard trans. but as the man said, Ford gave the auto GT "Higher" Gear (3.31) instead of the "Lower" Gear (3.73) option, aka Faster Acceleration On All 6 Gears, to keep ppl thinking that a "Muscle Car" will always be better standard not Auto, times hav changed, just look at the GTR, has the same auto Mustang 6-Speed trans AND DOES 2.7 Sec. 0-60 MPH with the better Turbo they put.. :)
Any questions about the strength of the 6 speed auto? search First 2011 Mustang GT 5.0L Factory Auto In The 8's! 8.99@153MPH I knew of a few in the 9s with the stock auto, but this one touched 8s. That transmission is bulletproof and the best hidden secret. I have talked to transmission builders about it and they have all said the same thing, a hidden treasure.
honestly that really depends on the person on which transmission is best. i know alot of people have egos and tout this is the best way or only way, but realistically thats BS. some people dont want a manual. and the times in testing between the two are virtually identical so its down to user preference. not an opinion, just a fact.
It's pretty obvious that Kevin Gordon doesn't have a lot of experience with this shift-able automatic transmission. First of all, it will allow you to run to redline and squeal the tires into 2nd gear, as long as you don't wait until redline to hit the button. After experimenting with my 2013 auto GT, I found that shifting right before redline allowed for a very powerful fast shift at redline. Second, if you reach 4th, 5th or 6th, the car will auto downshift all the way back to 1st on it's own.
To everyone bashing an automatic, some ass threw me a grenade in Iraq and damn near blew up my right hand. I drive an automatic because of that. Why can't people just drive their car and not worry so much about others. Fucking grow up.
my left knee is messed up due to an accident years ago, i want to get an auto but i cannot find a decent non biased review about the auto. and almost every comment i read says the auto in every variation sucks. im never going to be taking it to the track or racing it, i just want a fun car to drive as a daily. anyone know if the 2014 mustang auto is any good?
Buddy I have a 2014 V6 Mustang Auto an I LOVE it......the only thing I would like changed if for my "17 wheels to be "19.....but anyway the V6's rumble sounds like a V8
Also the Porsche 911 Turbo PDK 7 Speed DCT semi-auto to add to your good list. The funny thing is, look at the fastest Coyote 5.0s. Almost all of them are Automatics.
Bad points of the GT, the dash rattles, and the bushing for that fancy rear sway bar squeak. On a long trip the exhaust drone gets to you, and it not so great backing it up. Good points, it is built like an F150, and very durable, and get great MPG for a powerful car.
(continuación) > Another thing is the 2010 Ford Mustang (I have one of those) presents a grill very wide, very American Car feature. The 2013 version has a rare turbin grill wich it reduced measures, giving the impresion of more little, more dynamic, but less ellegant. 2010 grille is wide enought like a Mustang made in early '64, the lateral window like '67 model, the rear shape like '70, interior very 1965, etc. The new 2013 nose belongs to nothing previous Mustang. Cris, Stgo. Chile
people are in the 8's with the factory trans. what else needs to be said. They can handle a lot more power than the MT. won't miss second or third ever.
May I give my opinion about 2013 Mustang version? Well. If you notice the most important change is the frontal curved air grill shape, (rounded like Cobra previous years made). I think that this rounded design does not correspondes to the rest of lines of car, wich they are more angular. Please check looking bac side, you will notice borders are angulars, not curved like new 2013 frontal. It is some thing that I don´t like, cause it is a restyling not according with the rest of car shape.
Many reasons, not to exclude those of us that can't use both of our legs. It's all about options I think. Sure, manual would be more fun but the alternative for some would be to not be able to drive it if the auto wasn't available.
i kno it as the Ford 6R Series as the name to that transmission, but yea, you may be right..lol but still, the point is that transmission is way more capable of producing better numbers than the standard, reason why Ford gives its automatic Mustangs a higher gear ratio (3.15) compared to the standard Mustang's lower 3.73 gear ratio.. which makes the automatic give better fuel economy and top speed but not as fast acceleration which keeps ppl thinking automatics cannot be competitive.. ;)
Just got a 2014 Auto with Recaro. Love it.. the auto tranny on a stock tune SUCKS.. so I understand why he said flush it.. BUT with a tune its great! The 6 speed manual is a weak hunk of junk. The auto is strong! Have Lund do his tune on it and it's night and day.
I ended up letting Mike Rousch at Mid Atlantic Performance tune my auto. He is the A6 guru! He set the car up to shift and drive exactly how I wanted it to.
I know my reply is 6 months late - but I agree with your statement about automatics being awesome if you buy a tuner. From my experience the autos run better than the manuals after a tune. You can tune the shift firmness, rpms of the shifts, etc. (although the "firm shifts" did cost me a tranny in the past - so I know now not to select that option). I wish they would test the autos after they've been tuned. Although it would be really nice if they shifted well off the production line - or if Ford put a "sport" shift mode in for the autos.
hi, had a question. how do you tune an automatic tranny?, what does it do and how much does it cost?. also what do you think about the 2013 mustang gt and 2014?, what are the major differences between both?. i was thinking in getting the 2015 but idk about the design not digging it that much so i might go with a 2013 or 2014 but wanted to know the differences because to me they look the same but 2013 is much cheaper so i would like your opinion. thanks.
Where to start on this vid... first off, you can't get the 3.31 gears with the automatic, they are 3.15s with the auto. You can't even get the track pack with the auto. There are some benefits to the 3.15s though - you will get through the traps in 3rd at 6800-7000 rpm at 116-118mph - the average for a bolton mustang. Lots of manual cars with 3.73s are losing out power (and thus et/mph) because they shift into 4th right before the finish. To overcome this, they would have had to go to 4.30 gears or so, to finish in 4th. Now, 4.30s with the 4.17 1st gear of the auto (vs 3.66 in the manual), and the 235 bicycle tires, would mean absolutely no traction... Having had 4.56s in my previous mustang, my first inclination was to swap in gears as well; then found out that's not such a great idea... 3.15s it is.
Yup, I found the same info you did. Guys are running low 12s with exhaust, cold air and a tune with the auto! The stock tune is HORRIBLE with the auto.
It's funny that 95% of ALL cars sold in the U.S. are automatics, and yet, so many manual owners make nasty comments about people (yes, people, not the cars themselves), who buy automatics. There is a name for people who think they are better than 95% of the people in their own country, they're called douchebags. I've driven big rig trucks, with 10,13,15 and 18 speed transmissions, with double trailers, on mountain roads. Does that somehow make me manlier than some guy, who's never driven a big powerful truck, with 18 gears to shift? Do I have to turn in my "Man Card", for buying my 2012 auto Mustang, after owning 10 manual shift cars, in 35 years?
Most guys are so prissy, fussy, picky and whiny, when it comes to their preferred computers, phones and electronic devices, that will do everything for them, except wipe their butts. But, now all of a sudden, those same guys are super manly when it comes to their cars having manual shifters. What a load of crap! If you're so fucking manly, then why don't you just trash your precious cell phones and start building fires with only a knife, some sticks and dried leaves and learn how to send smoke signals? Because, that would be pretty fucking manly too.
If you're gonna give people crap for driving an auto, then don't you dare ever drink anything again, with the name "Latte" in it. And don't ever take a "selfie" and send it on your phone with the caption, "loving it". And don't ever buy a puppy or a cat for your wife or girlfriend (yeah, right! It was only for them). And don't ever order a drink that isn't beer or straight booze.
Honestly guys, it gets really old, hearing all this macho crap all the time. When I drove a beastly, old, big rig diesel truck, with 8 gears and two separate sticks that had to be shifted sequentially and independently, I didn't feel any more manly, than when I drive my auto Mustang and some pretty woman smiles at me says, "nice car". I'm still the same guy, no matter what I'm driving.
sir you just made my week. thank you lol
Thank you, I'm glad someone else thinks that way
thanks man. finally words of logic!!! (especially when it comes to mustangs) so fed up of hearing idiotic things when people say "automatic is for pussies" wtf:)
I agree with you 100%. I have driven manual GT's and love them. They are a blast, but not so much when you live in a big city with horrible traffic. Driving an auto doesn't make you, or anyone else less than a man.
I couldn't agree more
I am Lucky that my wife supported me in getting my 2013 Mustang GT. We got in auto so that we could both drive it. After we got it tuned it ran better than a manual. I am so happy that I married such a understanding beautiful women. could be driving a mini van. Cool car check, Beautiful wife check.
Yeah he kinda talks alot of crap on the auto, but I have one too. And I down shift it every day for shits and giggles. It's not needed but it's fun to rip around in the lower gears. Once you learn how it works then you know exactly how to time it and get a proper down shift. Hell I could show this guy how to do it better for his video lol 😆 And if you really want to rip into someone, just throw it in drive and haul ass. Also he never said anything about how reliable they are. I beat the hell out of mine, and takes it like a champ, already got 105 thousand on it too. For some reason I don't hear the same about those tremmec Manuels tho huh?? 🤔 These automatics are way underrated, and they are way cheaper then the Manuel too. I really don't get all the hate
@@SeriusChevy get a high output converter with the stock rear gear ratio and watch the absolute mayhem youll commit
@@churlafangaming1671 I will definitely keep it in mind. I want to do some mods and upgrades to it soon. And I appreciate the advice you give 👍. Just got her all paid off, so soon I will be investing into some more power to the ground lol 😆
My 2014 auto ran 12.80s @ 110 mph bone stock, I did an off road x-pipe and a tune now I'm in the 12.20's. Auto is the only way to go!
Yea way more simple and convenient
373 auto lol hurts feelings
Yep, that crappy automatic will handle over 1,000 horsepower stock but the manual 6 speed fails frequently with just 420 horsepower. I'll take the automatic on race day and daily driving. Sure, the stick is more fun until your broken in your driveway.
Idk about the manual not taking over 420 but the stock auto I saw was handling a 4.5L Whipple like an absolute champ
The 6 speed autos in these s197 5.0s are no where near crap they're well built, they may have some lag in between shifts but that can easily be addressed witha tune
Joseph R. So if I’m looking to get a mustang should I go manual of auto
@@camarosaregay7943 if you still haven’t gotten one, I would not suggest a manual just because of the MT82
The sound of that V8 just pumps me up. Getting a California Special soon!
People who hate automatics are people look for the hard way to do things in life even if the easier way is right in front of them they'll look for a difficult way to do it.
Wat ^lol
Thanks. I did forget to mention one very important thing.... If you want to drag race the automatic can be reprogrammed to be much faster in the 1/4 mile.
To comment of the auto trans flushing down the toilet, typically I would agree.
Unfortunately, the MT82 is a Chinese turd.
Wanna go fast-constantly-auto in these cars are impeccable!
great video man
Good review!
I really appreciate how neutral this review was. Most people come into reviews with set expectations and I didnt see that you had any. Good job, you just gained one more Subscriber.
Really good review. Hopefully someday it will get a better sequential style transmission. Overall I liked the video production and unbiased review.
I want one so badly
I have a 2012 automatic with a BAMA tune, now the transmission works like it should from the factory, very crisp: at WOT, chirps in 1st, 2nd and 3rd. I also upgraded to 3.73 gears and a Steeda CAI. Goes like a bat. I used to have a 2005 Mustang GT with a whipple - made 490 RWP and ran 12.006 in the 1/4. I think this car would give it a run. The 2013 has track apps that make it more fun to race as well.
Same feelings about the auto in stock form BUT when you get an SCT tune done it changes EVERYTHING. The shift points are crisp and under WOT it shift EXACTLY at redline. Agree about the gearing too. Much better with 3.73 or 3.90's with an auto trans. The 4.10 is to steep for me and cuts into everyday gas mileage to much.
I am going to get my 2005 back some day. I reunion that will be the best :-)
Good video
I have an 07 Stang GT auto and it works great. This guy just really prefers a stick to an auto. For a weekend car to play with I would also prefer the stick (I've owned manuals my entire life) but to use in traffic as a daily driver I prefer the auto all day.
Haha I was expecting a no balls answer with an apology, but that! That I like.
Good driving!
The Auto Transmission in a Mustang behaves differently whether its shifted into D or into S. On the 2013 Mustang, D is for daily driving and S is Sport Mode.
Wonder if this guy used Sport Mode because it looks to me like he shifted into D.
what video and external mic set up are you using on this video?
Hey man Im probably going to buy a 2013 auto because my wife cannot drive stick. Do you have experience with the auto and how well it shifts? If so could you let me know if theres a big difference in 0-60 time, etc.? Thanks
i want that car looks awesome
I test drove one today. In reality I drive a 03 V6. I did test drive an auto and it was pretty strong even though I went around a couple of blocks with it. I immediately felt the power when I barely got on the gas. I was really amazed how the car drove, when I let loose on the straight it had very good pick up and go. Today my dreams came true I'm actually looking forward to getting one in the near future even though the 15's are getting ready to come out. I'm still very much in love with this model. I might go tomorrow and do another test drive on the freeway to see how it feels since the salesmen seemed to be in a hurry.
The 2015 is the death of the muscle car look for the mustang. I just don't care for it. We all have opinions though.
IMHO the 2015 looks like a 2 door fusion in steroids; I was waiting for the new model to change my 2013 Gt, but now that it´s out ... It went from nicely looking muscle car to generic sports car.
Yup.. it might grow on me.. who knows.. I hated the SN95 but I ended up owning one and loving it.
How good is the automatic? Does it respond quick enough when you put your foot down? And you said something about the automatic that it doesn't let you rev it to the limit (about 7k rpm). Then what about when you use manual mode? Can you do rev-matching by downshifting and waiting a very few half seconds and then press the gas pedal?
did somebody know if the Recaro´s give more legroom than the std. seats ?
Im very tall and i drove a 2012 version for about 300km nonstop and my right leg hurts because it always lay at the middle console as you can see in the vid too.
i sit later in a camaro and it´s seat gives much more legroom for me.
i had a LS1 TA with auto, and I LOVED IT. And, I came from a slew of mustangs, all manual. The trans in the Transam shifted fast . Wonder why so hard for Ford to make a good auto.
Isn't there a manual + and - control on the stick shift??
I'm gunna smoke in car get head in car eat in car I ain't trying use manual!!!!
Quick question for you guys. I have a 2012 Mustang and its an automatic. That being said I was wondering if you guys could tell me what the 1 2 and 3 are for on the shifting platform? Is it for up hill driving? Isn't overdrive for uphill driving? I'd really appreciate an answer. Thanks guys!!
I thought the issues were fixed for the 2013 models? But if they're not, are they less likely to have problems than the 2011-12 models?
I disagree with some of what is said in this video. 1st gear with the 6 speed auto is well over 4:1 ratio, which is very steep. A turbo 350 transmission has a 2.53:1 1st gear. That is why it comes with a 3.15 rear ratio, as the overall ratio is steep. Even 4th gear isn't a 1:1 ratio, many 4 speed autos actually have a 1:1 in 3rd gear, so this transmission is actually very well geared. I do agree with the delay in shifting in sport mode, however every review I read on these cars said the 6 speed manual is notchy and does not like to be shifted fast, so it is what it is. I am happy with the auto, reading from many of the faster 9/10/11 second cars, the auto trans is pretty much bullet proof. Finally, and this is just personal preference, I like the shifting on the stick better than on the wheel. It is a natural position to have a hand on the shifter when shifting, it has never felt natural to me to try to shift on the steering wheel.
How many porches did you have to build for that?
I bet if you add 3.73 or 4.10 gears & get an SCT 93 octane Race Tune which improves the shifts of the transmission on top of the power gains, this would be a great combo. I prefer a 6 speed manual, but I would never badmouth someone for choosing an automatic. It's their car, if they wanted a manual, they'd get a manual.
I have 2012 performance pack without rear camera and park assist, never had a visibility problem backing up into a parking slot or parallel park it. Also all those electronic gizmos in the cabin are nice but also very heavy, which is a no no for a performance car. IMHO the only useful options for lover tier V6 and GT are bucket seats and brakes. Some of the bigger dealerships like Galpin outside LA also offer pre-installed Ford Racing handling pack which completely transforms the ride quality.
What type of mount are you using for your phone?
You've must've have the wrong Mustang man...The auto transmission is fantastic in my 2014...I changed in mine the original air intake with a JLT one and the exhaust with Borla Ataks ..she produces now a 502 HP and in Sport mode feels like a f rocket..I love that 6 speed AT, it's damn awesome..
Actually ZF box "as is" is pretty responsive and can handle upto 430ft-lb of torque with lesser power loss than MT82! BUT its software for digital clutches has been written by a someone who genuinely wanted it to have shift lag in first 3 gears in order to improve city MPG.
if i knew how to drive manual i might get one. that said i like that the mustang locks in the gears on the transmission. my acura red lines on my sportronic but it does not lock in the gears. so idk.
hows the visibility of the front and rear?
Gosh, I fucking can't wait to get mine.
Yes Sir!!!!
In my opinion, If you just want to have fun with your car and feel more connected to it get a stick shift but if you just want to cruise in it or use it for everyday things then get an automatic . I personally prefer stick shift not just because of the mileage and price but also because it's just simply more fun to use .
I own a 2011 mustang 5.0 with the auto. Banging gears is fun, but i did not want to deal with the 6 speed manual that has issues when you power shift it.
The manuals are a little faster than the auto, auto has 3.15 gears, but the auto is no slouch, mine with a tune, cold air kit and x pipe ran 12.0 at116 on factory perelli tires. No issues and mine has 10K on it so far. Ive owned over 100 cars so far, autos are nice, 6 forward gears gotta love it:)
Prices of the 2011s are 23K with some miles
YEAH!
I'm kind of new to cars, but what would be better: Automatic or Manual on a mustang?
so the automatic is good? or manual still better or faster? or it depend on the driver?
ohhhh i'm gonna miss my 2012 GT.... 6spd..... I find the 3:31's just fine, it's just great but thats just me. but then again...only a few more weeks to go before I leave for working to mexico
Those of us that have drag raced Mustangs like the automatics. Go for a ride in a tuned auto in a 2011, it is night and day. Go for a ride in one with gears, tune and torque converter and it is right around low 12s to high 11s.
I luv this guy
I have a "97 Mustang GT automatic. It shifts really fast and hard. I think it has some kind of shift kit in it though.
In realty most of us use our cars to go to work and run around town for errands .Once in a while we go for a drive on a twisty or country road ..The automatic is the cats ass for us .A manual - which I've riven most of my life is a pain in the ass in city traffic , Drag racing is just bullshit and if you do it in city streets your out of your mind ..All in all the way this mustang is optioned out is the way I would buy mine ., and the review was very well done .
Maybe the transmission ratios are different, but I remember when GM introduced the 6 speed auto in the C6 Corvette for 2006 and it came with as they called aggressive 2.56 gearing. They claimed the 2.56 gearing in the 6 speed auto is equivalent to 3.90 gearing in the previous 4 speed automatic. Then for 2008 they made the 6 speed auto available with even more aggressive 2.73 gearing which is equivalent to 4.10 gearing in a 4 speed automatic. Now this 6 speed auto in the 5.0 is 3.31 and you're saying it's extremely tall. That's pretty strange because the transmission gearing in the 3.31 geared 6 speed manual transmission in the 5.0 is a lot more aggressive than the 3.42 gearing in the 6 speed manual Corvette... Even more aggressive than the Z51 3.42 gearing which is shorter in the first three gears. I figured it would be the same with the automatic?
@Zach Travers Fantastic in which way ? Plz educate me
I'm picking up my 2013 next week. Only reason I'm getting the auto is because I fell 32' in 2010 and broke my back and neck. Although I have seen good & bad reviews on both the auto and manual. But I think the auto is more ideal for me in my situation
I live in Canada as well and I grew up around Mustangs and Camaros. I remember the year Ford decided to increase the price of the Mustang because they wanted it to compete with the Corvette instead of the Camaro. Increasing the price doesn't automatically make the car better. That was a very risky move because the Mustang is one of Ford's best sellers. People were already on the fence with imports and now Ford has made their mind up for them. I love the Mustang but not for that price.
Goin' back to the '60's 'bout automatics and street quick.. The chances of getting off the line or going from the crack of 30 are much improved with an automatic and torque converter. Stick a good rear like 3:73 or above in back of almost any automatic even an old Powerglide overcomes the chances of executing a perfect launch and 2 or 3 perfect powershifts. 5.0 auto's are indeed street quick.
Cool camera angle at 11:45! Great review, although it is an automatic :P
i have seen alot of reviews about the auto transmission. everyone talks crap about it. well i decided to go test drive a 2013 5.0 it had an auto transmission. let me say,,its not that bad i actually liked it. the one thing i didnt like was the little rocker arm to change gears. it defiantly needs paddle shifters or a slap stick . but its an awsome car1 i liked it so much im gonna buy one next year..
for the people who arent every good with manual trans. and worry about stalling or a bumpy ride. believe me test drive it first before the auto. you will be impressed, the new manuals feels more comfortable than auto, they are harder to stall than older cars and smooth switching gears. My wife got a 2013 manual accord and it felt smoother than the automatic also i have driven the newer manual trans and its so much easier it really is, give it a shot first before going for auto so u dont miss out
I don't get why you guys are hating on the fact that he prefers manuals over autos. The stick has long been preferred over the slushbox by car enthusiasts, this guy is no different. I'm sure Jeremy Clarkson, Chris Harris, and many other well known automotive journalists would have said the same thing this guy said.
Is the exhaust stock? It sounds pretty good.
Yes
haha damn I wish I actually had a mustang though can't wait until that day comes :(
LOOKA THAT BADASSS CAWRRR
This guy is a tool, first off the Automatic is much faster in a drag race than the manual, reason for this is the first gear is 4.06 in the transmission, while the manual uses 3.66 first gear ratio. That is exactly the reason why ford didn't equip the mustang standard with anything higher than a 3:31:1 rear axle ratio. The car has a hard enough time keeping traction for the that low of a transmission first gear, let alone slapping some 3:73s to the automatic. Second they have made fast improvements in the shifting patterns of the automatic to make it competitive whether you drag race or auto cross it. This is exactly the reason why i dislike non technical savvy people reviewing cars that give the wrong information out and discouraging people.
Just add cold air intake and tuner. Now it can shift to the 7000s😕
Yup I've always driven manual all my life but decided to get a 2011 5.0 auto because of all of the horror stories I've heard about the Chinese manual. I was bored to tears! It was quick but it felt slow and none of the control you get with the manual. I wouldn't even chirp 2nd with the Ford Racing tune:/
I traded it in for a 2012 Brembo 5.0 manual and couldn't be happier! Night and day difference! Wheel hop is an issue with the brembo package is a negative but manageable.
Try to run manual mustang GT to redline, you will grind your gears. Simple flash wakes up automatic transmission.
I got an automatic because it's less effort... When I open it up on the freeway I do have the urge to shift and in those instances I wish it was a manual... but for my daily commute I see no downside to having an automatic.
I will admit that when out playing on the road it is more fulfilling to be shifting gears yourself...
I'm not sure if it serves a specific purpose but I know you can upshift and downshift in those three gears, so it might just be a primitive sport mode. I never use it, it's a little silly for my taste
I'd buy an Acura as well. I know what you mean. As I get older (approaching 40) I find I am not as excited about cars as I was when I was 16. Too bad I didn't have the money back then. On second thought, probably a good thing because of my love for speed. Now, I'm happy just getting to where I need to go. Unfortunately it is really hot here. I'm in Vancouver, B.C. We are in the middle of a dry spell. Have a great day. Nice chatting with you :)
This is not the base GT, it's the premium. For the 2015 GT, I personally didn't go for the premium and got the performance package with manual instead. It all costs less and is a very good bargain for the performance.
yea i think your right, i kno it as the Ford 6R Series tho, lol i still like the 6-speed auto tho, its way more capable of producing better numbers than the standard option on the Mustang, reason why Ford gives the automatics a higher gear ratio (3.15) than the lower 3.73 gear ratio thats on all standard 5.0s.. which makes ppl think the auto Mustang is boring but really is not.. :) they do it on purpose..
I switch back and forth between auto and manual regularly. Manual is more fun, more control of car no doubt. But those that hate rush hour, automatic is a valid choice. I also find it easier to fuck with radio/ipod, talk on cell (not text), eat, etc with auto. My 5.0 is auto (slightly used so didnt get to pick trans) but its tuned and its a beast. Lol i remember my TA had such a shitty cupholder that driving manual was a total pain in the ass when had a drink in vehicle
yea i kno my man, the 6-Speed Auto has DUAL-CLUTCH which helps shift even faster than any person could with a standard trans. but as the man said, Ford gave the auto GT "Higher" Gear (3.31) instead of the "Lower" Gear (3.73) option, aka Faster Acceleration On All 6 Gears, to keep ppl thinking that a "Muscle Car" will always be better standard not Auto, times hav changed, just look at the GTR, has the same auto Mustang 6-Speed trans AND DOES 2.7 Sec. 0-60 MPH with the better Turbo they put.. :)
Any questions about the strength of the 6 speed auto?
search First 2011 Mustang GT 5.0L Factory Auto In The 8's! 8.99@153MPH
I knew of a few in the 9s with the stock auto, but this one touched 8s. That transmission is bulletproof and the best hidden secret. I have talked to transmission builders about it and they have all said the same thing, a hidden treasure.
Funny with a Bama race tune and your gripes are gone .
honestly that really depends on the person on which transmission is best. i know alot of people have egos and tout this is the best way or only way, but realistically thats BS. some people dont want a manual. and the times in testing between the two are virtually identical so its down to user preference. not an opinion, just a fact.
It's pretty obvious that Kevin Gordon doesn't have a lot of experience with this shift-able automatic transmission. First of all, it will allow you to run to redline and squeal the tires into 2nd gear, as long as you don't wait until redline to hit the button. After experimenting with my 2013 auto GT, I found that shifting right before redline allowed for a very powerful fast shift at redline. Second, if you reach 4th, 5th or 6th, the car will auto downshift all the way back to 1st on it's own.
Don't sweat the auto. You can always put in a bigger gear if you want more acceleration over gas milage.
To everyone bashing an automatic, some ass threw me a grenade in Iraq and damn near blew up my right hand. I drive an automatic because of that. Why can't people just drive their car and not worry so much about others. Fucking grow up.
Hell yeah!
my left knee is messed up due to an accident years ago, i want to get an auto but i cannot find a decent non biased review about the auto. and almost every comment i read says the auto in every variation sucks. im never going to be taking it to the track or racing it, i just want a fun car to drive as a daily. anyone know if the 2014 mustang auto is any good?
Buddy I have a 2014 V6 Mustang Auto an I LOVE it......the only thing I would like changed if for my "17 wheels to be "19.....but anyway the V6's rumble sounds like a V8
wolfmp5
Just letting you know, no V6 on the planet sounds like a V8.
Also the Porsche 911 Turbo PDK 7 Speed DCT semi-auto to add to your good list.
The funny thing is, look at the fastest Coyote 5.0s. Almost all of them are Automatics.
Bad points of the GT, the dash rattles, and the bushing for that fancy rear sway bar squeak. On a long trip the exhaust drone gets to you, and it not so great backing it up. Good points, it is built like an F150, and very durable, and get great MPG for a powerful car.
This is why you don't buy new cars. 2011 Gt500 you can get for $40-45k
true...
Just raise the red line in the tune and it's all in your hands, and 3.73 gears in the auto are a lot shorter than 3.31s
(continuación) > Another thing is the 2010 Ford Mustang (I have one of those) presents a grill very wide, very American Car feature. The 2013 version has a rare turbin grill wich it reduced measures, giving the impresion of more little, more dynamic, but less ellegant. 2010 grille is wide enought like a Mustang made in early '64, the lateral window like '67 model, the rear shape like '70, interior very 1965, etc. The new 2013 nose belongs to nothing previous Mustang. Cris, Stgo. Chile
people are in the 8's with the factory trans. what else needs to be said. They can handle a lot more power than the MT. won't miss second or third ever.
May I give my opinion about 2013 Mustang version? Well. If you notice the most important change is the frontal curved air grill shape, (rounded like Cobra previous years made). I think that this rounded design does not correspondes to the rest of lines of car, wich they are more angular. Please check looking bac side, you will notice borders are angulars, not curved like new 2013 frontal. It is some thing that I don´t like, cause it is a restyling not according with the rest of car shape.
Many reasons, not to exclude those of us that can't use both of our legs. It's all about options I think. Sure, manual would be more fun but the alternative for some would be to not be able to drive it if the auto wasn't available.
i kno it as the Ford 6R Series as the name to that transmission, but yea, you may be right..lol but still, the point is that transmission is way more capable of producing better numbers than the standard, reason why Ford gives its automatic Mustangs a higher gear ratio (3.15) compared to the standard Mustang's lower 3.73 gear ratio.. which makes the automatic give better fuel economy and top speed but not as fast acceleration which keeps ppl thinking automatics cannot be competitive.. ;)
2004 terminator cobra :)
Just got a 2014 Auto with Recaro. Love it.. the auto tranny on a stock tune SUCKS.. so I understand why he said flush it.. BUT with a tune its great! The 6 speed manual is a weak hunk of junk. The auto is strong! Have Lund do his tune on it and it's night and day.
100% agree.
also its much easier to let the auto tranny shift when you go force induction :D
I ended up letting Mike Rousch at Mid Atlantic Performance tune my auto. He is the A6 guru! He set the car up to shift and drive exactly how I wanted it to.
I know my reply is 6 months late - but I agree with your statement about automatics being awesome if you buy a tuner. From my experience the autos run better than the manuals after a tune. You can tune the shift firmness, rpms of the shifts, etc. (although the "firm shifts" did cost me a tranny in the past - so I know now not to select that option). I wish they would test the autos after they've been tuned. Although it would be really nice if they shifted well off the production line - or if Ford put a "sport" shift mode in for the autos.
hi, had a question. how do you tune an automatic tranny?, what does it do and how much does it cost?. also what do you think about the 2013 mustang gt and 2014?, what are the major differences between both?. i was thinking in getting the 2015 but idk about the design not digging it that much so i might go with a 2013 or 2014 but wanted to know the differences because to me they look the same but 2013 is much cheaper so i would like your opinion. thanks.
what is the best tune to get for a 2014 mustang 5.0 auto ?
thanks
+Jose Ibarra steeda for what I know
Jose Ibarra i have mine tuned by Mike Rousch of Mid Atlantic Performance and its awesome. runs 0.5 seconds faster than stock
wtf is the point of the e-brake being up on a automatic car?
please, No one wakes me up !!
Well, may be get a stick if you can't get along with ZF box?
Where to start on this vid... first off, you can't get the 3.31 gears with the automatic, they are 3.15s with the auto. You can't even get the track pack with the auto. There are some benefits to the 3.15s though - you will get through the traps in 3rd at 6800-7000 rpm at 116-118mph - the average for a bolton mustang. Lots of manual cars with 3.73s are losing out power (and thus et/mph) because they shift into 4th right before the finish. To overcome this, they would have had to go to 4.30 gears or so, to finish in 4th. Now, 4.30s with the 4.17 1st gear of the auto (vs 3.66 in the manual), and the 235 bicycle tires, would mean absolutely no traction... Having had 4.56s in my previous mustang, my first inclination was to swap in gears as well; then found out that's not such a great idea... 3.15s it is.
Yup, I found the same info you did. Guys are running low 12s with exhaust, cold air and a tune with the auto! The stock tune is HORRIBLE with the auto.