Rosalia's Level 20 Perk is Borderline USELESS. Here's Why.

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    This video is a fairly in-depth analysis of Rosalia's Guardian Automaton level 20 perk and why it's actually borderline useless... this video covers a lot of info so make sure to watch until the end!
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  • @ShadowViperGaming43
    @ShadowViperGaming43  5 годин тому

    The unofficial sequel to this vid out now: ua-cam.com/video/WBfCFCzw_4o/v-deo.html

  • @404_nowheresnotfound3
    @404_nowheresnotfound3 18 днів тому +756

    Ninja Kiwi really went “We hear you! Your tried of all the new hero’s being OP and micro heavy so we made a hero who is micro heavy and bad.”

    • @ShadowViperGaming43
      @ShadowViperGaming43  16 днів тому +100

      this is too accurate its getting a pin

    • @sirtarumar
      @sirtarumar 16 днів тому +10

      It's not micro heavy tho.

    • @kaijupokemongaming6101
      @kaijupokemongaming6101 16 днів тому +45

      @@sirtarumarYou have to manually move her so her 5 range can actually see the Bloons and her weapons need to be manually switched in order to make full use of them. That’s extremely micro-heavy.

    • @user-fl4fc2gb1p
      @user-fl4fc2gb1p 15 днів тому +3

      @@kaijupokemongaming6101 Doesnt the 2cond ability get full uptime later on?
      Because that ability turns on both of her weapons and gives full map cover and from what ive tried later on in the run it basically gets full uptime.. So the hero kinda plays himself without needing to move her or change her weapons

    • @kaijupokemongaming6101
      @kaijupokemongaming6101 15 днів тому +25

      @@user-fl4fc2gb1p That doesn’t happen until level 18, and considering how slow she levels up, you aren’t getting that until the 90’s. For over 90% of the game, she requires a lot of micro, and even when she gets that ability, she still isn’t insanely strong.

  • @LIKE_IDK
    @LIKE_IDK 21 день тому +608

    Good take
    -useless on free play
    -bad bosses
    -Cheaper to buy x5x super than level 20
    Honestly people suddenly became stupid in these comments

    • @ShadowViperGaming43
      @ShadowViperGaming43  21 день тому +42

      yep

    • @RoundShades
      @RoundShades 19 днів тому +10

      -with Energizer requirement, she's basically a different Brickell

    • @iceicicle3046
      @iceicicle3046 19 днів тому +24

      main gamemode it would be useful on is chimps, but sadly rosalia will NEVER reach lvl 20 without investment or energizer and even once you get anti-bloon its not a free win
      edit: hadn't watched the video yet and he basically said the same thing lol

    • @iceicicle3046
      @iceicicle3046 19 днів тому

      @@RoundShades brickell is much better tho

    • @dzaki8331
      @dzaki8331 19 днів тому

      ​@@iceicicle3046brickell when no water maps

  • @MalachiHolley
    @MalachiHolley 21 день тому +618

    This is actually helpful because originally I thought Rosalia leveled up quickly so you can actually get lvl 20 before the late 90's.

    • @ShadowViperGaming43
      @ShadowViperGaming43  21 день тому +200

      this is just my hot take but I honestly think either the ability should be moved to level 16 or rosalia should level up quicker

    • @epicantonio08idk38
      @epicantonio08idk38 19 днів тому +2

      Out of curiosity, what is her lv speed?​@@ShadowViperGaming43

    • @internetguyperson
      @internetguyperson 19 днів тому +15

      @@epicantonio08idk38 I believe it’s as fast as Ezili.

    • @thecat5215
      @thecat5215 19 днів тому +19

      @heatherhuynh1630
      pretty average a lot of heroes level up at this speed (around 1.425x more xp required than base heroes)

    • @kulekid6917
      @kulekid6917 19 днів тому +24

      ​@@ShadowViperGaming43maybe a good buff would be to let her give discounts to robo monkey and tech terror at lower levels? that way the antibloon discount doesnt feel so out of place. they wouldnt be as insane of a discount but it could still help

  • @RancorSnp
    @RancorSnp 19 днів тому +469

    I am surprised that Rosalia has a slow leveling curve, she's already very unimpressive compared to every other hero in the game, it seems like NK was very worried about her being overpowered, but I don't understand why ^^
    Also, I still think that the main problem with the Antibloon discount it just that Rosalia has no Super Monkey synergy in the first place, and instead of this completely random buff, she should be our Heli / Ace buffing commander, less Anti Bloon more sky buffs would do her good

    • @ShadowViperGaming43
      @ShadowViperGaming43  19 днів тому +100

      thats my main problem its just so random and pointless

    • @FishInPan
      @FishInPan 19 днів тому

      Agree

    • @kozolith2121
      @kozolith2121 19 днів тому +35

      I guess they were worried because 3 out of 4 heroes before could solo CHIMPS on release so they overcompensated in terms of balance this time. Hopefully they change her leveling speed or atleast give her more synergy with middle path super in later updates.

    • @sillyness4096
      @sillyness4096 19 днів тому +1

      tbh i thought etienne would have ace/heli buffs

    • @ShadowViperGaming43
      @ShadowViperGaming43  19 днів тому +14

      @@sillyness4096 his global camo detection and missile launching death drone are powerful enough in my opinion

  • @fragolastrawberry5920
    @fragolastrawberry5920 19 днів тому +160

    I had hoped that her Lvl20 perk would be that she would be able to just use both weapons or a further buff to aces, or something like that, instead of making a completely random tier 5 30% cheaper.

    • @ShadowViperGaming43
      @ShadowViperGaming43  19 днів тому +37

      this is just my take but i think it should also make all engineers 10% cheaper as well
      might be useful with boss events with overclock spam and stuff

    • @branstorm
      @branstorm 18 днів тому +6

      I was expecting rosalia to have a perma fly ability, something similar to etienne when you get to buff the ucav

    • @normalchannel2185
      @normalchannel2185 17 днів тому +5

      @@ShadowViperGaming43 Or IMO a sweeping 20-25% discount on ALL mechanical t5s(if placed in her range) would be useful.

  • @aduck491
    @aduck491 19 днів тому +59

    5:22 "The first good financial choice I've made since I've gotten divorced." Is wild.

  • @HittingBandy
    @HittingBandy 19 днів тому +146

    "Oh Guardian Automaton is good for late game attempts since you can save money on antibloon for other more expensive towers!" Remember that Heroes still play a major factor in late game attempts, hence Adora or Ezili being the meta picks. Rosalia could barely even survive the late 90s, and her skills aren't major enough to turn the tide like Adora's light ball or Ezili's percentage damage.

    • @ShadowViperGaming43
      @ShadowViperGaming43  19 днів тому +16

      exactly she just doesnt scale enough in power like the other heroes

    • @k1llsh0t_87
      @k1llsh0t_87 19 днів тому +7

      There just isn't a single scenario where she's super useful, in chimps that 5% discount is the only thing super good, in bosses she doesn't really have anything going for her and in freeplay she once again has nothing going for her, the only possible scenario I can think of is maybe a late game chimps run but even then I'm confident other heroes would out perform even when you factor in the cheap anti bloon

    • @mathematicalgamer7692
      @mathematicalgamer7692 19 днів тому +9

      Dont forget about psi being able to one-hit ALL non-bads after lvl 20

    • @FinnishM3mes
      @FinnishM3mes 18 днів тому +2

      Don't forget about Geraldo being able to make Degree 100 PARAGONS and make Banana Centrals pay themselves off in 3 ROUNDS

    • @HittingBandy
      @HittingBandy 18 днів тому +4

      @@FinnishM3mes honestly degree 100 paragons aren't worth bringing Geraldo instead of Adora or Ezili, like it's only a small percent damage increase on all paragons from max level without Geraldo totems, but compare that to Ezili who can provide better percent damage in the 300 round mark, there's no competition.

  • @turzilla
    @turzilla 19 днів тому +139

    W take. a price buff to one specific upgrade is crazy useless unless its made to be nearly free

    • @meepilee7991
      @meepilee7991 15 днів тому +1

      Well, no. Free upgrades are also mostly useless even when not specific cuz village exists. The only time it's been good is with mauler spam because the tower does so much on top of that. Price buffs are only good when they come in balance patches lmao

    • @yurifairy2969
      @yurifairy2969 14 днів тому +1

      One free tier 5 upgrade would still be quite weak.

    • @turzilla
      @turzilla 14 днів тому +1

      @@meepilee7991 what if it was dark champion

    • @doot_2198
      @doot_2198 7 днів тому +1

      @@yurifairy2969 no tf it wouldnt

    • @CoconutOrNot_
      @CoconutOrNot_ 3 дні тому

      ​@@doot_2198ik what are these goofs saying 😂

  • @EhtesamUddinPrince
    @EhtesamUddinPrince 19 днів тому +43

    100% agreed, the random ass Anti-Bloon discount makes no sense as Rosalia is marketed as a flying hero which buffs other flying monkeys, in what world is the Anti-Bloon related to flying? If you are using Rosalia, you probably try to use more flying monkeys, wouldn't it make more sense if she just discounted ALL flying monkey T5s by like 15% or maybe even more considering the fastest she can reach level 20 is literally after 100.

    • @Bubbble_Bear
      @Bubbble_Bear 18 днів тому

      I think they correlate her more to robots which is the antibloon so why doesnt she buff engineer turrets or something instead

    • @The360MlgNoscoper
      @The360MlgNoscoper 18 днів тому +1

      Buffs are always preferrable to discounts.

    • @3clisp315
      @3clisp315 12 днів тому

      Rosalia is a techy not specifically a air gal

  • @TheGlaiveDominatrus
    @TheGlaiveDominatrus 19 днів тому +51

    At least people will remember Rosalia's level 20 buff to the Anti-Bloon, where tf is my recognition

    • @ShadowViperGaming43
      @ShadowViperGaming43  19 днів тому +19

      your primary buff is seen an appreciated, thank you Glaive Dominus 🫡

    • @TheGlaiveDominatrus
      @TheGlaiveDominatrus 19 днів тому +8

      @@ShadowViperGaming43 Wow... I never thought I'd get this far

    • @Superp2gamer
      @Superp2gamer 19 днів тому +1

      It should be acknowledged more. It effects the APM, which is nice, and honestly, it's best against dreadbloon

    • @normalchannel2185
      @normalchannel2185 17 днів тому

      @@Superp2gamer oh damn i totally forgot that dreadbloon is a thing lol

    • @metal_pipe9764
      @metal_pipe9764 5 днів тому

      Wait paragon towers have buffs?

  • @ShadowViperGaming43
    @ShadowViperGaming43  21 день тому +145

    If this sounds like it was recorded in a closet on an iphone mic... thats because it was, not much I can do about that rn...

    • @proddxshy
      @proddxshy 20 днів тому +9

      WE GOT SHADOWVIPERGAMING43 RECORDING INSIDE HIS CLOSET BEFORE GTA VI 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥

    • @ShadowViperGaming43
      @ShadowViperGaming43  20 днів тому +9

      @@proddxshy we gonna get a lot of stuff before GTA VI tbh

    • @Waaz732
      @Waaz732 20 днів тому +2

      put a blanket over you when you voice-over

    • @ShadowViperGaming43
      @ShadowViperGaming43  20 днів тому +2

      @@Waaz732 wait actually or are you trolling

    • @Waaz732
      @Waaz732 20 днів тому +1

      @@ShadowViperGaming43 I'm serious.

  • @zagqueenofchaos8352
    @zagqueenofchaos8352 19 днів тому +33

    She really does feel like NK was worried about about her being in the busted state the previous hero’s(gestures to the 1tc post we got with the last few releases) and over corrected with her

  • @WootmansayWOOT
    @WootmansayWOOT 20 днів тому +43

    Honestly a pretty damn good video that I didn't expect to see in my recommended

  • @destroything
    @destroything 19 днів тому +25

    I think then the approppriate buff for rosalia should be a leveling speed one. She should absolutely be able to reach level 20 on her own by a round before 100

  • @supremechaosbeing2696
    @supremechaosbeing2696 19 днів тому +14

    i honestly wish it was something like "30% discount on all Monkey Ace and Heli Pilot upgrades", buffing her existing discounts. i think it would be kinda funny to spam ground zeroes or something

    • @BlackKnightsCommander
      @BlackKnightsCommander 16 днів тому +1

      That and maybe add engineer monkey upgrades or Super Monkey middle path upgrades to keep with the mechanical theme

  • @misspotato813
    @misspotato813 20 днів тому +44

    I think it would be significantly better if it made both the x4x and x5x cheaper. Something to consider as well tho, the energize is also reducing the cooldown of anti-bloon by 20%. If they don't wanna buff the 20, I think moving her down an XP tier would be good.

    • @ShadowViperGaming43
      @ShadowViperGaming43  20 днів тому +9

      making the x4x cheaper does almost nothing because you will almost certainly have it before rosalia is level 20
      my take is that it should be moved down a few levels or her XP gain rate should be increased

    • @misspotato813
      @misspotato813 20 днів тому +6

      @@ShadowViperGaming43 letting it impact x4x means you can get more than one use out of the level 20. As it stands, you can only buy one anti-bloon (or two if you sacrifice to temple). If it affected x4x you could get a lot more value out of the investment. I do agree it just isn't enough. Her power spike at 20 just isn't very good, especially if you aren't going to get it till so late.
      I do think the synergy of Rosalia, AB and Energizer is pretty strong tho. Another upside to energizer is it allows Rosalia to have 100% uptime on her level 7, when she hits 18 which is a pretty huge bump for surviving the buildup to AB.
      Personally though, I care more about her 5% discount to heli/ace at level 6, it lets you get Flying Fortress before round 90. Perhaps letting this cost saving apply to Energizer as well would make her a bit more flexible.

    • @ShadowViperGaming43
      @ShadowViperGaming43  20 днів тому +7

      @@misspotato813 yeah Rosalia's strongest perk is definitely the 5% discount, its always super sketch getting Flying Fortress up in CHIMPS but this helps
      to be clear, this video wasnt trying to say that Rosalia is a bad hero, just that her current level 20 just doesn't add much

    • @ShadowViperGaming43
      @ShadowViperGaming43  20 днів тому +4

      @@misspotato813 this might be a bit too overpowered but hear me out what if at like level 12 she also makes engineers 5% cheaper? that would make boss events easier with buying an army of overclocks

    • @leroyspeelt
      @leroyspeelt 19 днів тому

      What if at level 20 she makes her missle attack the tsar bomba ability

  • @grandruby5343
    @grandruby5343 19 днів тому +5

    Rosalia is a fun hero to play and a nice middle ground between someone like like Sauda and Corvus; a hero you can place down, do a bit of micro with, but don’t need to constantly monitor them 24/7. The fixes that she needs aren’t even that major, and they can take the easy route too:
    -Allow her to attack while being moved around the map manually, because having her stop attacking *until she lands* was just a poor design choice.
    -Move the Anti Bloon price discount to between lvl 13-18. You shouldn’t need to have energizer to get her to lvl 20 to get the anti bloon when by the time you reach late 90s, the game is almost over.
    Those two changes alone make her better, but I’d much prefer if they just leaned more into buffing helis and Aces. Have her lvl 12 be a +10% attack speed and +2 pierce to all helis and aces, and her discount apply now have global range, and then her lvl 18 be a 15% attack speed boost that stacks, and +2 damage for aces and helis.
    From that alone you gave her an excellent niche: She synergies beautifully with Aces and Helis due to their flying nature. If they gave her a price reduction and allowed you to attempt 2TC with say Rosalia and a 0-2-5 Flying Fortress, that’d be dope but that’s a bit too unrealistic.
    TLDR: Allow her to attack while being moved manually, move her lvl 20 ability down to lvl 15, or lean into her niche with Aces and Helis, and you’ve made a significantly better hero to use.

  • @LuxyHugs
    @LuxyHugs 19 днів тому +32

    Wow they really undertuned Rosalia. NK basically said "what if we made a tower that made muddy puddles easier" then stopped there.

    • @ShadowViperGaming43
      @ShadowViperGaming43  18 днів тому +1

      im not even sure how she does that tbh (i suck too much to play muddy puddles)

    • @LuxyHugs
      @LuxyHugs 18 днів тому +5

      @@ShadowViperGaming43 she can move between all 4 of the lanes with perfect positioning. Her spread damage is way better than psi's, so it makes early bloon rushes easier

    • @ShadowViperGaming43
      @ShadowViperGaming43  18 днів тому

      @@LuxyHugs good to know actually!

  • @Parrasect_oc
    @Parrasect_oc 19 днів тому +9

    When she's on energizer and her jetpack ability is upgraded she can basically use it forever, so i think that level 20 should be permanent pursuit on bloons and make the jetpack ability make her attack faster

  • @Top1tippy
    @Top1tippy 18 днів тому +4

    i wish nk pulled an Etienne with her level 20 and made her constantly have her jetpack ability on so she could fly around the whole map

  • @bomboyisbak9807
    @bomboyisbak9807 19 днів тому +10

    Goddamn, that was a great video man, I'll be stalking your channel from now on to see what u got. But yeah, rosalia will prob end up being one of those niche heroes only used in races once in a blue moon if she doesn't get buffed, as of now, she isnt viable enough to justify using her over other heroes in any gamemode.

    • @ShadowViperGaming43
      @ShadowViperGaming43  19 днів тому

      yeah agreed

    • @Ionstorm2002
      @Ionstorm2002 19 днів тому

      She is way better than any of the starter heroes. She beats Brickell, Psi, Pat Fusty and even Benjamin by quite a bit as well. Just use Aces and Helis with her and boom shit gets destroyed.

    • @abfs5470
      @abfs5470 19 днів тому +2

      ​@Ionstorm2002 I think you're just lying dude

  • @h3971
    @h3971 15 днів тому +2

    The second i saw the level 20 description i went "ok this is just there so people have an extra monkey to use in CHIMPS" yet it turns out you barely can do that. They should have made the leveling faster, and made it something like a 50% discount so that the price is that of most expensive CHIMPS towers because if you are gonna bring this hero to freeplay (which is the main intention you will have when its almost impossible to bring this pre-round 100 without just farming) at least have something cool to show for it

  • @icewater4770
    @icewater4770 19 днів тому +4

    yeah ive heard other people say to just give her the free global jetpack movement for lvl 20 and i think it would be more fun with that

  • @32a34a
    @32a34a 18 днів тому +1

    Not only does it take a lot of effort to make your videos but imagine the toll on your mental health. This is why I like and
    subscribe also I get to eat cake while watching.

  • @nathanieljones8043
    @nathanieljones8043 19 днів тому +2

    What gets me is rose already synergies with energizer with her level 7 being full uptime

  • @That1doeg
    @That1doeg 19 днів тому

    Underrated as hell. You're getting a new sub outta me

  • @proddxshy
    @proddxshy 19 днів тому +1

    i told u that u would make it big one day bro, glad u getting the recognition u deserve 💯💯🔥

  • @laurakeel3930
    @laurakeel3930 15 днів тому +1

    A use for it is if you are trying to get a VTSG because you would not need to buy the anti bloon until late when Rosalia is level 20 because you would need a lot of defense and farms to get up to that point anyway

  • @dapper-alcremie460
    @dapper-alcremie460 18 днів тому +1

    My main issue with her level 20, is that it’s encouraging you entirely to not even invest in Rosalia anymore, and it’s about using the anti bloon instead of her, which functionally doesn’t even make sense. It’s not even like an obyn or adora thing where the monkeys they use work together with each other

  • @icetide9411
    @icetide9411 13 днів тому +1

    The worst part about this is in a gamemode other than Chimps, where you might think it's easier to get the cash for the Anti-bloon and therefore a more useful ability, is that then it being easier to make money means the ability has less importance. In a game where you are even contemplating getting Anti-bloon you've probably got enough cash generation that the amount Guardian Automaton is saving is practically useless. Not entirely useless, but in practicality it does next to nothing, because it's maybe 3 rounds of cash being saved, which really doesn't do much in the grand scheme of things

  • @John-ii6he
    @John-ii6he 19 днів тому

    if her level 20 effected more than the super monkey it'd be cool. Like having a influence on engineer, ace, heli maybe, stuff that she could use the engineer gimmick on way more over just tech terror. Then maybe i could see a lot more strats but even then, there'd just be better options.

  • @Swagpion
    @Swagpion 16 днів тому

    I feel like this would make sekce if Rosa got the power of DUAL WEILD like middle path super has. Maybe also add buffs to middle path super and maybe even engie throughout her levels, as she is a tinkerer. And also maybe replace the 30% discount with a 30% cooldown reduction.

  • @revaxx3075
    @revaxx3075 18 днів тому

    I wish she had a bit more in terms of buffing earlier in her lvls since her damage aint too great. Discounting earlier robo monkey upgrades and maybe some kinda buffs to engineers, spike factories and tack shooters fit into her tinkerer theme with all the machines/tech.

  • @Tisisrealnow
    @Tisisrealnow 19 днів тому +1

    they can either speed up the hero levelling up to make it viable (doesnt fix the core problem but it can open up some strats but might break her balancing it), make the discount bigger (which is like adding a bandaid to the wound but wont help with anything) or make it affect more towers, which helps sslightly, like if all heli and ace t5s also get discounts but the slow leveling means no matter what the time sink isnt worth it. The only other way to fix it is by making guardian automaton unlock at like level 17 or 18, at that point it is no longer a big upgrade, but thats the only way to make this completely not worthless. Overall, this perk is just pointless.

  • @ThatOneGuyRAR
    @ThatOneGuyRAR 18 днів тому

    While it might not be practical at all, it’s actually interesting and kinda fun to challenge yourself to use this new combo to beat chimps mode. It definitely needs a buff/rework if it’s going to be at least decent though.

  • @szymonwilczynski6870
    @szymonwilczynski6870 9 днів тому

    Shortly after Rosalia launched I had a dream where lvl 20 also allowed having a second Antibloon, similar to that one XBM MK. It wouldn't fix the issue of that perk being mostly useless, but I found it to be a maybe fun idea if combined with other buffs.

  • @SuperIdiotsforever
    @SuperIdiotsforever 19 днів тому

    "No not that energizer" made me laugh

  • @donanilao7724
    @donanilao7724 12 днів тому

    Dude really didn't think to use Relentless Glue.

  • @TheFunnyPogGuy
    @TheFunnyPogGuy 15 днів тому

    Considering the fact that i almost barely use the Anti-Bloon for actual cases. And only use it for my VTSG's in freeplay. I can agree with this. A good LV20 perk for Rosalia is to have her LV7 ability be permanent. And have the ability enhance her weapon's stats. Similar to Etienne's UCAV. That would make it way better.

  • @vovablood
    @vovablood 18 днів тому +1

    You can actually go for the energizer first, if you go for the bottom path on the sub, and also unsubmerge it for moabs and some cerams. Bottom path pierce is really important for pierce and Rosalia can pop leads with bomb gun

    • @vovablood
      @vovablood 18 днів тому

      For context: I did it on the new map and for the same purpose it was pretty hard but I got the black border

    • @CoconutOrNot_
      @CoconutOrNot_ 3 дні тому

      ​@@vovabloodweird strategy but good job 👏

  • @UndercoverGCHACPSagent2177
    @UndercoverGCHACPSagent2177 11 днів тому

    I have an idea for a better one, it switches guns based on an ai system that judges which would en best, increased travel range and new movement modes, separate upgrades of course, but ideas 1 and movement upgrades could be a level 20

  • @Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat
    @Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat 18 днів тому +1

    I really think she should be a fast leveling hero like Etienne, Quincy, etc. She's ok but not the strongest already and fast leveling would do a lot to justify the level 20 price drop for antibloon and likely would still leave her as good but not overpowered

  • @ReginaPhalange1980
    @ReginaPhalange1980 57 хвилин тому

    I don’t play this game but these vids never disappoint

  • @sniper7303
    @sniper7303 3 дні тому +1

    i wish it was a 30% discount on robot x monkey based towers like robo monkey, Tech Terror, The Anti-bloon , M.A.D, Perma-charge (maybe) i know it isnt gonna fix it but still would be better.

  • @tacoshero4579
    @tacoshero4579 8 днів тому

    I wish it was more general support instead of just one tower. Something like every mechanical upgrade is 15% cheaper or something

  • @guardian299
    @guardian299 18 днів тому

    On Boneyard, I was able to get energizer round 59, and if I didn’t suck at ability timing and positioning with Rosalia I would’ve gotten it round 57 had I not spent it on getting my super monkey x21 for round 55. Afterwards it was mostly smooth sailing if I used the right weapons and positions. I got x52 Super round 95, but I had to spend 9K on upgrading Rosalia to level 20 from 19. Since she just got level 19 after round 94.

  • @salmuttotabreabittlecochicarac
    @salmuttotabreabittlecochicarac 19 днів тому

    there's a reason I always go with ettinne, making camo properties completely obsolete really nice

  • @MarsPlaysMusic
    @MarsPlaysMusic 13 днів тому +1

    good video

  • @ancientarcs9331
    @ancientarcs9331 18 днів тому

    her level 20 discount should apply to engineers and stuff like tack shooters and bomb shooters, as well as maybe buff robo monkeys and above or engineers like gwen does with ring of fire and fire wizard monkeys

  • @justaplayer8629
    @justaplayer8629 18 днів тому +1

    If they made her level up faster and make it give discounts to robo and 040

  • @Poluxus
    @Poluxus 18 днів тому

    I think they could have done something similar to what they did with etn and make the jet pack ability permanent because its almost permanent with a energiser

  • @furret4150
    @furret4150 17 днів тому

    I think it’d be better if they made her permanently use both weapons or have the pursuit effect she gets with her ability.

  • @bazookasniper5167
    @bazookasniper5167 16 днів тому +1

    Wouldnt 4 player 4 lvl20 rosalia allow you to have 4 050 supers?

  • @Lonk87
    @Lonk87 19 днів тому +2

    “Ettinnay” 💀

  • @squiddler7731
    @squiddler7731 18 днів тому

    9:01, wait, does the the discount stack? That'd actually be pretty funny if it did, especially given that you can buy multiple anitibloons in co-op (but I just assumed that it didn't)

  • @C1yde902
    @C1yde902 15 днів тому

    Could you get 4 Rosalias and then buy/sell the free anti-Bloons to spam the ability? Could be really good co-op DPS

  • @raiden8929
    @raiden8929 19 днів тому

    She really needs a faster xp curve, its upsetting that the anti bloon cost decrease is useless when its such a cool idea.

  • @Markm8
    @Markm8 19 днів тому

    Personally i think it whould just make sense for her to make big plane way cheaper, since you should already be getting planes with her

  • @gabrielpaquet5606
    @gabrielpaquet5606 18 днів тому

    NK should have definitely went on the buffing aces and helicopters side of Rosalia like a support hero with dmg or price reduction buffs

    • @ShadowViperGaming43
      @ShadowViperGaming43  16 днів тому

      ya her level 20 shouldve been like +1 damage and pierce to all plane and heli attacks plus increase the discount to 10%

  • @emiba154
    @emiba154 19 днів тому

    Yea, this is exactly what i thought when I tried this exact thing on the new map.

  • @vovablood
    @vovablood 18 днів тому

    The (not so) recent buff to unsubmerged energizer shouldnt be looked over, can also use some glue/dart monkeys for sub intel

  • @saltocorto
    @saltocorto 6 днів тому

    I think they should rework her discount to either make robo monkeys and tech terrors cheaper, or for this to hit at an earlier level do you can just save up for and use anti-bloon sooner. Right now Rosalia is a pretty weak hero overall, so I think she could use a buff like that anyway

  • @lizardSH
    @lizardSH 18 днів тому

    i feel like something we should keep in mind is that its very new, its 100% gonna get a buff to its leveling speed or just general all-round buffs

    • @lizardSH
      @lizardSH 18 днів тому

      i just realised i sound a lil like a smartass (or however it is), not my intention

    • @CoconutOrNot_
      @CoconutOrNot_ 3 дні тому

      ​@@lizardSHno you don't. Your concern is completely unwarranted, remember how broken sauda was at release?

  • @chowderdx
    @chowderdx 16 днів тому +1

    Hear me out, it's really useful when you're making the vengeful temple.
    Ninja Kiwi cooked.

  • @brunolike8631
    @brunolike8631 19 днів тому +1

    I think they should change her exp charge rate. And also make the price reduction apply to robo monkey and tech terror (or some other mechanical upgrade like Turbo Charge or the MAD)

  • @Link-on5bl
    @Link-on5bl 11 днів тому

    about 3 months ago i lost my btd6 account so i started playing on xbox qnd now i have EVERY upgrade on EVERY tower on xbox (including paragons)

  • @Yeet_Boi01
    @Yeet_Boi01 19 днів тому

    I've tried this "challenge" before and the route i take is so stupid it works
    Tldr: dart sub start
    Get Rosalia on round 10
    Get an xx1 village and then start upgrading the sub to reactor
    Get reactor, then upgrade the village to xx2 and get another xx2 village nearby
    Place the Super monkey close to the villages, and round 40 is free
    R41 - R55 you do nothing but micro Lia's guns and targeting
    R56 you get the energizer and from there you get the super to Tech Terror w/top crosspath
    After that you get an overclock to buff the super and a snowstorm (remember to get the top crosspath so it can stall DDTs)
    And by R98, you should be able to get the Anti-bloon and win
    Hope this helps

  • @Bismarck-S
    @Bismarck-S 18 днів тому +1

    They should honestly make it so her lvl 20 makes Anti Bloon straight up free. Like, you're only ever getting her to level 20 in late round 90's anyways, and if you spend money on her to get her to level 20 faster, your still seeing more than the cost of Anti Bloon. I don't see a game mode where such a change would be over powered.

  • @siskohwat473
    @siskohwat473 19 днів тому +2

    ok hear me out. Better exp gain. On lvl20 massive discount to all tier5 air towers and permanent buff from Flight Boost.

  • @nekoschar6170
    @nekoschar6170 6 днів тому

    Shes a fun hero but at times it feels like she could use a little more

  • @JediFrog7
    @JediFrog7 16 днів тому

    i did this on off the coast and she got level 20 at level 94 ish but i needed to spend money on a couple other things so she was level 20 but the money wasnt there

  • @SF3L
    @SF3L 18 днів тому

    This passive would probably more beneficial if it was even just a 10% discount at level 18 instead
    Also I kinda wondered, why the Anti-bloon _specifically_ instead of making middle path supers in general cheaper at a lower level

  • @xann2681
    @xann2681 16 днів тому +1

    Anyone going for Anti-Bloon will get it before she even reaches her max level, its comically useless

  • @heywhateverperson
    @heywhateverperson 19 днів тому +2

    I think it should be all robot and flying towers should cost less

  • @karlbergman5678
    @karlbergman5678 День тому

    I'm new to this game so sorry if this is a stupid question but wouldn't banana farms have helped you reach energizer earlier?

    • @ShadowViperGaming43
      @ShadowViperGaming43  День тому

      Hey thats not a dumb question, in most cases it would have but i was playing the CHIMPS gamemode, and in that gamemode any additional money makers are banned

  • @SoggyTatertots-gc9bh
    @SoggyTatertots-gc9bh 20 днів тому +1

    Great video, you’re very underrated!

  • @uiinpui
    @uiinpui 17 днів тому

    the only time where I see this being useful is in freeplay, but then again, in freeplay you will likely have so many farms that saving 30k won't help much and on top of that other heros do it better so yeah it's pretty useless

  • @Cobalt_Gemini
    @Cobalt_Gemini 18 днів тому

    Okay, based on the comments I've read, and some of my own opinions, here's what I think they should do. I want to keep this to 6 simple suggestions, with the plan that these should be the first steps, and see if they balance out Rosalia, and hopefully not make her overpowered.
    1. Rosalia's XP gain should be increased just a tad. Enough to make it so she can reach LV 20 before Round 100.
    2. The Anti-Bloon discount, if not removed, should be brought down to Lv 17 or 18. Not too high, but enough that it can be more reasonably achieved.
    3. An Engineer discount should be added for one of her levels, to give Rosalia more syngery and use with other towers.
    4. At LV 20, Flight Boost should become a permanent Pursuit, in the same vein as Etienne's LV 20 UCAV. The ability is permanent, and if you use the manual ability, it should temporarily empower it. Perhaps it allows to Rosalia to fly and attack faster, increase her damage, or make so the attack boosts she gets for every tenth shot happens more frequently during the duration. (Maybe her Flight Boost becomes permanent, except she still only uses one of her weapons unless you use the active ability. It's an idea, but I'm not sure it's enough.)
    And some more minor stuff:
    5. She should be allowed to attack when you reposition her and she's flying to her new spot.
    6. I think the 10th shot attack boost I mentioned should buffed to every 5th shot, perhaps as one of her mid-to-late-level upgrades

  • @lilharm
    @lilharm 19 днів тому

    it would be pretty good on co-op to get 4 anti bloons
    though one player would have to focus their cash on leveling her up

  • @lampshade6579
    @lampshade6579 23 години тому

    I'm still trying to figure out why she doesn't just work a Brickwell but for air towers. Instead she offers 1/10th the amount of utility for air towers then Brickwell does water towers. AND she's not even a good standalone tower like Brickwell is. And the water towers in this game are more versatile and generally better than the air towers.

  • @blegh277
    @blegh277 21 годину тому

    towers dont need to be for chimps? but yeah maybe shes not strong enough lategame. is she fun to use tho?

  • @paulsucksatbtd
    @paulsucksatbtd 19 днів тому

    not getting anti on downstream 💀💀 lmao

  • @sampletext9426
    @sampletext9426 18 днів тому

    that tech terror placement on downstream was terrible

  • @felipemarques2015
    @felipemarques2015 19 днів тому

    Guardian Automaton could be useful in boss battles, I once made anti bloon alongside ace paragon to face tier 5 boss

  • @crazyknight5474
    @crazyknight5474 19 днів тому

    this is a good vid fr, you mostly have her set on laser late game for the stall and some towers benefit way more with that than a silly middle path super

  • @TheMagicDragon-mm5dr
    @TheMagicDragon-mm5dr 12 днів тому

    Free antibloon can be bought and sold repeatedly for the ability at cheap at least!

  • @HeitorGRamos
    @HeitorGRamos День тому +1

    And lets be real if u wanna do low cost chimps run and ur willing to use a micro heavy hero js use corvus

  • @CardinD.AwmysticManson-fd5qq
    @CardinD.AwmysticManson-fd5qq 8 днів тому

    Here is my proposition on what Rosalia should do in later levels(though keep in mind they're purposely vague cuz Im not a balancing expert so I'll let you guys do the numbers and level decisions for me :] ):
    -Replace the Anti-bloon discount thing with huge discounts to the Monkey Ace and Heli Pilot tier-5s.
    -Make her be able to give passive buffs to anything airborne(example being airship planes and phoenix) like increase flight speed(yeah I know the first ability already does that but why is it ability only thing and not a passive???), increase pierce, increase damage and lower ability cooldown and it gets stronger the higher level Rosalia is.
    -Just make her have the same leveling speed curve as Quincy and Gwen.
    Yeah that's it. Have fun counting.
    Edit:Thx for the heart.... wait my edit got rid of the heart.....

  • @btdoverclock
    @btdoverclock 19 днів тому

    According to NK Guardian Automaton is meant to be a "fun" factor to add some extra meme strats and was never meant to be taken seriously. The real highlight of level 20 is the megabuffed scatter missiles and kinetic charge.

    • @ShadowViperGaming43
      @ShadowViperGaming43  18 днів тому

      and those are nice, but i mean i just make vids for fun and this seemed like a fairly interesting topic

    • @mosesslai
      @mosesslai 18 днів тому +1

      the problem is that you can’t even use this strat without going into free play

  • @thepatwithahat6565
    @thepatwithahat6565 7 днів тому

    We already knew she was bad, didn't know she could be worse

  • @diamondplayz2145
    @diamondplayz2145 19 днів тому

    Rosalia levels up so slowly. Even with the Energizer buff. But I love her regardless

  • @tkienjoyer
    @tkienjoyer 16 днів тому +1

    "Let's be real, NO ONE is buying an anti-bloon in half cash"
    Me, an extremely tryhard sweaty farmer: "WHO SUMMONED ME?" (I'll probably do it on like some random map half cash when I'm bored because you said so)

    • @ShadowViperGaming43
      @ShadowViperGaming43  16 днів тому

      ngl i might try it myself just cuz im insane

    • @tkienjoyer
      @tkienjoyer 16 днів тому

      @@ShadowViperGaming43 don't tempt me man, I don't want to go for max cash in half cash

    • @ShadowViperGaming43
      @ShadowViperGaming43  16 днів тому

      @@tkienjoyer f*ck it bro, expect a future vid to be "can I get a paragon in half cash" or something like that

    • @tkienjoyer
      @tkienjoyer 16 днів тому

      @@ShadowViperGaming43 lmao fr

  • @kidincredgamez5819
    @kidincredgamez5819 4 дні тому

    Game: Etienne (eh-T-N, hence the ETN skin)
    ShadowViperGaming: "Eh-tee-ney"

  • @rickycat345
    @rickycat345 19 днів тому

    this vid is literally cursed i have all 3 adblocks on and yet this is the only vid that hs a gauranteed ad at the start and its always the same one and its an unskippable 2 minute long

  • @LifeLineAO
    @LifeLineAO 19 днів тому

    I swear ima go back to my recommended and see a "max level Rosalia is OVERPOWERED!!!"

  • @XL1GT
    @XL1GT 18 днів тому

    Tbh i expected raluca (we the brazilian community of BTD6 calls her that name because she resembles an brazilian youtuber called raluca) aka rosalia to buff also a bit of the middle path super monkey or other tech based upgrades or towers like an pierce, damage or range buff, not a 30% discount on anti-bloon on lvl 20 which i learned from this vid, takes too much time and is impratical on an more harder run on an more harder map or in CHIMPS in any map

  • @Marluxiaify
    @Marluxiaify 15 днів тому +1

    Bloons TD6 players when a newly released hero doesn’t immediately break the game and solo Expert map CHIMPS.

    • @ShadowViperGaming43
      @ShadowViperGaming43  15 днів тому +1

      this thing is pathetic for the amount of micro it requires tho

    • @Marluxiaify
      @Marluxiaify 15 днів тому

      @@ShadowViperGaming43 She… doesn’t need micro.

    • @ShadowViperGaming43
      @ShadowViperGaming43  15 днів тому +1

      @@Marluxiaify she kinda bad if you dont keep moving her around

  • @Markm8
    @Markm8 19 днів тому

    Yea I also pair her up with the endinsideher

  • @joseph8298
    @joseph8298 18 днів тому

    ISAB should try to salvage Rosali