Warriors got lucky on their first championship playing thru a bunch of teams that had injuries. Second time around Lebron beat them at full strength. adding Kevin Durant makes them favorites for the title.
They won 1 chip before him thats all that matters....if you dint win the chip it doesnt count...they flopped in the finals...kd won them 2 more and got 2 fmvps....and carried them thus far this year....yeah they need him. Everybody just mad because as long as hes there the rest if the league has no chance...lebron
I swear this guy been hating for a while now. Nit picking everything about KD's career while the titletge NBA gave Cleveland was more than a stimulus package.
Media was praising KD to the high heavens and immediately turned on him first chance they get, even though KD was injured and has nothing to do with how he played.
P L I swear they was saying he was having the best playoff performance since Jordan now he’s not needed uhhh okay ... I can drive my car with no hands doesn’t mean I need or want to but I can if I had to
I think they forgot how good curry and klay were and now they are reminded kd is a good player but the media over hyped the last few months and are now over compensating by saying all tgis negative stuff
@Steve Jobs kd gets credit cuz he was finals MVP kd was leading a team that was okc but heres the catch without kd okc would not make the 2012 NBA finals plus LeBron had a overpower bench on the heat now my point is this LeBron didn't lead the Lakers to the playoffs even tho when he came back from a injure the Lakers still a good chance but now he failed to lead the Lakers to a playoff spot Kobe is greater then Bron so yeah
The Warriors give KD the platform to be the best. Steph is normally the one that gets doubled, and you can't ignore Klay either. KD being the 4X scoring champ that he is often isn't getting doubled when Steph and Klay are on the court. And on defense Klay usually takes the primary back-court threat and Draymond runs the defense, so KD gets to benefit from playing mostly help defense. KD is dope, but if you take KD away, or Steph, or Klay, or Draymond, you greatly decrease the chances of the team winning the championship, but the current narrative is that KD is saving the entire team. The team is greater than the sum of its parts.
My thing is where is KD supposed to go where there are no superstars playing? Cuz as far as I know all cities that players want to go to have stars or will br recruiting in the off-season.
@@djones1943 exactly! The thunder were the better team that year, KD and Westbrook just choked. Also they knew Lebron couldnt best them again if they added KD. Killed 2 birds with one stone.
Harry Steele GSW has done more for KD than, what KD has done for GSW. Without GSW , KD has no rings. Without KD, GSW is still contending, if not champions.
KD was brought to neutralize LeBron! so, outside of Bron's Team, KD is just a safety blanket! Just remember, Warriors with Iggy is a way better team than warriors with KD vs Rockets!
Dub23zero FACTSSS. The Warriors with KD we’re MADE FOR LEBRON now that is not an issue we see they’re still dominant without KD, they just needed KD because he’s the closest player who could match LBJ’s output so KD and LBJ canceled out each other and we all know the other Warriors players were 100X BETTER than the Cavs roster
@Joel Johnson no he wasn't. The "1 they won without him" was agaisnt Cleveland with no Kyrie or Love. Then the next year against a healthy Cavs they blew a 3-1 lead and Draymond cried to KD in the parking lot after game 7. That's straight outta the horse's mouth.
Hes saying what ive been saying this whole time. The primary objective for any organized sport is to win championship. It aint about who needs who. It aint about numbers or who joined what team. All that other noise is spectators which includes media and fans is personal opinion. KD gotta win the way I want him to win. He gotta put maximum effort on a team with no help or form his own and not a former 73-1 team for me to approve or validate his success. FOH.
@@chono981 i love the part where jackson roasted em for putting an asterisk on some championships but they themselves don't have any championships on they belt. Cause there is no easy way in the NBA and only the ones who laced em up know that
We were robbed of the greatest rivalry in basketball since 80s Lakers v celtics...Cavs v Gsw had so much potential... but k.d. came and ruined it... those rings mean nothing
If KD has asterisks then so does Curry and Klay who begged him to join them after blowing a 3-1 lead in the finals after squeaking by Lebron with no Kyrie or Love in 6.
Would Marcellus and Stephen not put an asterisk by Jordan’s championships if he joined the Lakers or the Pistons. Nobody would call Jordan the goat if he went and joined the best team ever that just beat him. Cmon now.
@@zim3383 it doesn't matter how he got it, people like you are haters regardless of how he gets it. He could have gone to your junior high school, take your junior team to the nba finals and you'll still be hating. You know why I know this? Because there's nothing haters hate more than a winner.
Eschatonx No We Like Competition & We Like Ppl Winning When They Earn It. . Not Winning Because U Took The Easy Way. Could The Bulls Even MAKE It To The Finals Without MJ? How About The Lakers Without Kobe? Heat Without Lebron? Spurs Without Duncan? Pistons Without Isaiah? Course Not. KD Is The Only Superstar To Ever Play For A Team That Can Even MAKE It To The Finals Without Him. Let Alone Win It All. . That’s Why His Rings Are Worthless
Ryan James wow, it’s a joke bro, and so was your comment because if you’re saying that it’s ok to mispronounce words if you have money then more power to you bro, by the way I didn’t get an A in English but I also didn’t get an Asterichhhhh 😳😂
@@claycox1829 No one needs nor cares about your desire to be grammar police. Some words are hard for people to pronounce. Sorry they don't have perfect pronunciation like you do. We're not worthy............smh
Clay Cox, I agree dawg! It’s funny how ppl act as if money excuses sh!t...Nope! So if you don’t have as much money as they do then it’s not ok? They’re “professionals” that are getting paid to SPEAK and do more criticizing others at that. 4 dudes to not know shows their ignorance of and others that excuses it.
The warriors with kd: iso and throws the team off and slows them down The warriors without kd: ball moves faster fast breaks offense runs more smoothly
Yet numbers say you are full of it and have no opinion of your own. Their assist numbers with KD are the same. The only time GS runs a ton of isolation is against Houston who switches everything and when Steph and Klay are shooting bad and KD goes and gets them buckets because he’s the only player on the team who no one can guard
@@Ali-zd4sz that won't stop him from going back to those burner accounts. He's said himself he cares what others think. That's the mentality of a teenage girl. If KD was less insecure he wouldn't have even thought about going to golden state and wouldve said hey we shoulda beat them and we will.
I didn't know KD said that and I can't read into it but if I said that, I'm looking for something to fulfill me. For me it would be the HOF, who knows what it is for him, he may not know.
bs james always brings players everywhere he goes to win and when he doesn't he can't make the playoffs. kobe had shaq and phil jackson surround with talent and leadership that groomed kobe to a champ.. kd couldn't do that because everyone was/is scared of westbrook ego to say give the ball to kd. so kd decide Instead of looking for a team that was going to take time to build around him and play his style of ball he went to the team who plays his style. Another thing warriors cannot beat the cavs with kyrie except with Kd. warriors would have never won a ring if kyrie didn't get injured. the year warriors beat kd was because of westbrook. I bet if warriors face the spurs that same year warriors would've lost that series. curry shows up against weak defensive teams. look at curry during the 2016 championship kyrie gave him the business and warriors won 73 games that year.
KD went to GS to not have to worry about competition.... exactly.... but the problem is a few fun dummies appearing to be analyse think KD is the best player in the nba
Benny Ghanee yup kd can’t do what kahwi doing. Kd can only do it on gsw. He had wb harden ibaka He’s had wb ibaka and Adams. He’s had super teams his whole career
Draymond called KD before he took a shower after the Cavs gave them that L. Steph, Klay, Iggy & Draymond the ones that y'all should be mad with. They the one who flew to the Hampton to get KD. So I guess they made a weak move
Carrying who??? They won without him. His rings in GSW have asterisks on them. If he wants to be on the same level as lebron, he needs to take a bunch of scrubs to the finals period!
Yes it's a asterisk next to his name.. KD took the easy way out and joined a super team that beat him. History will always remember that in the internet age where nothing disappears.
donnell brown people are not jealous that’s just the fact he won 2 championship with an easy way even draymond say to him that they don’t need him. If you put giannis, lebron, Kawhi, Harden they would have also won the 2 titles with the Warriors just stop you know that and we all know that.
No, there is no asterisk. It’s a team sport. The whole team gets credit for a championship. Durant has been a key contributor to the Warriors’ success.
Well if you use your brain and think really hard, gsw is built around steph so him and steph missing games is a large difference. If this team was built around KD yall be singing a different tune.
Daryl Vergara and if you used your brain since they signed him, they have catered their game play towards Kd and the flow is off and they are closer in games with teams and when steph is out and only kd “leads” they lose a lot. When kd is out and Steph leads, they’re like 27-2 or something and the team flows better as Steph is the main focal point
@@TrippleJJPlusH you made the exact point im making. steph is the focal point. Isn't that what i said? Steph IS the POINT GUARD. Starting PG at that. Does it really surprise you that when the main playmaker is out they struggle?
LeBron never had his own team. He recruited stars in Miami and Cleveland. He is trying to recruit stars right now. Translation for this discussion: break up GSW at all cost LeBron must win another ring lol
@@tat8894 as a matter a fact many make the exact same argument. Difference is what did Cleveland do without Lebron this season? Before injury Lakers were 4th seed? with Lebron. OKC still "good" without KD making playoffs. I think all that counts grand scheme. KD easily the best player in the game right now. S. Jackson, what's wrong with making it easy? Well the success is simply not as impressive is all. Frankly I don't think KD needed GSW and vice versa. KD just needed away from Westbrook, unfortunately he took the easiest possible path - when he did not have to, to win.
@@dundada9053 They still lost the finals thoe, which mean they weren't the best team. Won 73 regular season games just to get beat in the finals, I dunno why people overrate that team so much and the flaws were so apparent with them.
@@EastSideRudeBoy they were still the best but lost imo. Its hard to overrate a 73 win team? Sounds like you're underrating them. They probably had less flaws than any other team in the league including Cleveland
If he "had to" then why are you complaining? According to you, he had no other option then, right? But see, that's how we know it isn't about that. You know he's talented enough to win anywhere else. Or else you wouldn't be this mad. You're just mad that he is that talented and yet still chose to go there, making it harder for your team to win. Boohoo.
Did Wiley just say 'how is this the same team?'. Hmm same coach Steve Kerr, same 6th and 7th man in Iggy and Livingston, and they have the same big 3 before Durant came, Curry, Thompson, and Draymond. Seems like the core of their players and the coach is the same to me.
Media likes to create drama.... or these guys are ignorant. Kareem was 6 for 11 in the finals. They only talk about the 6. And the 4/5 he won with Magic
Most ppl who down KD don’t know basketball. His stats with and without GS says it all. And the argument he joined a team that beat him because blah, blah, blah is laughable! Players get traded, go cause of FA or whatever but the fact remains, those rings and stats aren’t giving to you, those starters and bench guys put in work.
They was all fixing to say no at the Barkley rockets situation, I’m telling you people really mad cause golden state stopped lebron run at the top KD joining them was just the icing on top
Why because their not blind bandwagon GS warriors fans? All they're saying is truth. The warriors won without KD and were a Kyrie Irving jumpshot away from winning back to back. KD needed the warriors more than they needed him. That's facts
You’re crazy if you think they had no part in it. They all went to the Hamptons together for a reason. Ya it was Draymond who called him crying after game 7, but they all had a hand in it
@@crazytrain111 in support of their teammate Draymond...Steph signed off on it yes but he didn't initiate conversations with KD. That glorious distinction belongs to Draymond Green in the parking lot post Game 7 loss to the Cavs.
I'm a Spurs fan. Stephen Jackson is the most gased up player ever. Dude hit a few threes in the finals, started acting up,Pop let him go. We bring him back hoping he's humbled, Kawhi was on the rise and Stephen thought he was better than him,let him go again. History of being a hot head. Takes every opportunity to get at my Spurs cause he's bitter and also gased up. Just like the Patriots have a bunch of bitter players who they let go,doin nothing but bashing them on television,as the team keeps....on....winning.....without them.
honestly in 2012 he help also againts okc... we lose tho all the support except kawhi were choking/choke (danny, tiago, gary, matt, anderson, etc) but yeah i agree as a spurs fan also, lol.
KD is a bum. He was up 3-1 lost his cool and choked. Then crawled to the team that beat him. A 73 win team. KD will always have questions on the validity of his championships. He wouldn't have them without Golden State but they WOULD HAVE THEM WITHOUT KD
@Elton Francis brother your history on the bulls during that stretch is foggy. When mj left bulls they won 55 games and the previous season they won 57 games they didn't go to the eastern conference finals they lost in the second round.
Yeahhhh... this is what they make millions for lol. No one is making KD play in the NBA but if you want these checks the media and fans come with the territory. The day media stops talking about him is the day he’s a broken down nobody. That goes for every great player btw.
I think that some ppl forgot how good GSW was before KD because of the playoffs and how mediocre the splash brothers were playing. I remember a reporter said they need KD because GSW aren’t bad but they aren’t the warriors they were before him and they are aging. Now that KD is out everyone is backtracking. KD definitely should leave because this is reminding everyone the easy road he took. He needs to prove a point.
I wonder if Wikipedia will add an asterisk to The GSW’s championships with KD on the team in 30 years? “oh well, Steph could’ve carried the team without him so his championship is less authentic” Like what are we talking about here?
Of course not, but we judge everyone’s championships differently. Scottie Pippens rings are viewed differently than MJs. I think in 30 years KD will get Pippen-esque praise for his rings. Being a piece of the puzzle rather than being the guy who puts the puzzle together, if that makes sense. Kinda like Kobe’s first 3 rings, most people respect his final 2 rings WAY more than the first 3 because he won those as his teams 2nd most important player... of course they wint have an actual asterix, we will just give him less credit for his rings.
Denny Kaleal facts. Another example : If championship would count the same Robert Horry will be greater than MJ, Kobe, Duncan but we all know that is not true.
Xavier Moyssén What? Like internet trolls? Or people on Twitter? What impact does “real fans” have on his championship? Will he not be able to go to the HOF because “the real fans thinks your championship(s) have an asterisk”?
lmao they won a chip against a team with just bron, and he still took them to 6, once they got kyrie and love back the next year the warriors lost, then immediately called Kd, and the warriors would have lost the 2017 finals against that same cleveland team if they didnt have kd, and they also would have lost to the rockets team last year, not to mention if kd doesn't come back against the bucks in the finals there not gonna win, so i dont know whats up with you dudes watching 2 games without kd and saying they dont need him, it's a reason the warriors celebrated like they won the finals after they beat the rockets game 6, because that was there western conference finals and they beat them without kd, they wasn't jumping up and down when they beat portland, because portland is not a threat, they should beat portland without kd, they been beating portland with and without kd for years, portland got swept by the pelicans last year lol, i think golden state is a good team without Kd, but with him there a championship team, its a difference, portland is a good team without Kd, but if he joined them they would be a championship team, getting to the finals doesn't make you a championship team, sometimes it comes down to matchups when and what round you play teams in, so until i see golden state win a title versus a team with all there core players healthy or even somewhat healthy then im gonna stick with they need Kd, im a golden state fan, i want them to keep winning, but there's no question they need the best player in the world to win a title, maybe not this portland series, but defintely for the finals
@Elton Francis bro, the man rarely if ever gets doubled! Look up the video " how Curry makes it easier for KD" for a detailed analysis. There were plays in the 2017 finals where KD had wide open lanes to the basket because Richard Jefferson and Jr was so focused on curry. Even in last year's finals you could tell Cleveland game plan was to stiffel Curry. That's the best chance you have of beating them. Why do you think the games KD scores are always close? I'm not trying to say KD ain't great, but it ain't like he's back in OKC and is the 1 focus. Remember game 6/7 with the double team GS threw at him Remember, he got those Fmvps with curry on the floor.
Why would KD be bothered? Did we forget KD is a multi-millionaire with a good 5 years yet to build his legacy. He also has 2 rings, 2 finals mvp's and will be in the HOF. That's for starters.
Is he was multi-millionaire when he created his burner account ? 🤣🤣. KD is insecure that’s cool but stop to justify that with his money because obviously he care a lot about what people think about him.
@@yvans. I said, "Why would KD be bothered...", didn't say he is bothered. Neither you or I knows how he feels. A burner account could mean he likes to communicate with his fans. There are many PEOPLE with burner accounts, are they all insecure?
Dramond Green is the Anchorman and Heart ❤️ of the Warriors!..Without Green the warriors will collapse....These are facts 🔥🔥🔥. The Splash Bros and Drammond is the true Core of the warriors 🔥 KD is a plus but not needed either ⭐️
Why would KD be upset if he knew he joined a Dynasty way before he got there? A Duh 🙄 LoL That would be foolish on his part...Drammond is the Nucleus of that warriors team...I can join the warriors and get a ring...I know they have a dynasty and a big 3 🔥🔥🔥 facts 🔥🔥🔥
Legacies are built by being Leaders and not Followers. KD subconsciously did want his path easier but he also wanted to be part of teamwork dynamics. The Warriors can't win a Championship without Steph and that's the Truth. Yes, KD can't be stopped one on one but he can't win a Championship without a mental leaders like Steph, Klay, Iggy and Draymond. Mental Toughness wins it All. Just Watch MJ!! My favorite player of all time. On the other hand I really love how the Warriors Play. Draymond was awesome in the last few games and his toughness is so attractively powerful and doesn't care how big the opponents are. I also feel the Warriors can't win without him. They all compliment each other and no they didn't need KD. He's a luxury!!! We gotta give credit to the bench and their mental toughness. Steve Kerr is doing a great job.
They won a ring before KD and two straight finals appearances and the NBA’s best regular season record ever. The team is almost the same outside of Harrison Barnes. Am I kissing something?
Every typical NBA fan outside the Bay Area has been saying that. At least, Whitlock is willing to admit on live TV now. KD is gonna have win elsewhere before we can call him a Top 5 player of all time.
Durant seeing how strong and good the warriors are without him still dominating. He about to resign with the warriors this summer . Ain’t no way he want to lose to the warriors again lol
@@Roc_Official That's my point. He is NOT as good as everyone says he is. This whole "he is the best in the world" narrative is weak because he got a few rings and is on a team that contends on championships without him. I think he is going to realize he needs the Warriors more than they need him. He can't be like Giannis and Kawhi and Harden who take all the blame/responsibility for team success/failure
That's funny. Look at the teams record when he doesn't play. It's clear he isn't needed to win, even if he is the best player on the team. Because he was close in OKC with Russ, we all know he can get there with less talent, he just has to do it and win this time with another franchise.
Mobley don't forget Warriors loss to Cleveland at 2nd championship run without KD. Then after KD joined them Warriors won next 2 championship so I believe they need each other.
Warriors only lost to Cleveland in 2016 because of the rigged suspension on Draymond Green and also Bogut and Iguodala both got hurt. That situation allowed for a comeback. They were up 3-1, if Draymond didn't get suspended, they would have won 4-1 for sure since Bogut didn't get injured yet. And remember they only lost by one shot in Game 7, it could have gone either way. When both teams were fully healthy, Golden State mop the floor with Cavaliers that year.
Stephen Jackson is keeping it real . Houston is better than Portland. The reporter on ESPN said Golden State felt like this was a regular season game. Understand if they 3 peat , they will be one of 4 teams. CELTICS, LAKERS AND BULLS........ GOLDEN STATE. How many people have multiple finals MVPs . I know it is less than 10 . Russell, Jordan,LeBron , Magic, Bird, Shaq , Duncan , Kareem, KOBE, DURANT .
The moment he decided to sign with the team that beat him, it put an asterisk on everything. He'll always be number 2 and his team will always never need him to be great
Sorry, but when Lebron went to Miami, that wasn’t his own team. Then when Cavs got Kyrie and Love, he went back to CLE that wasn’t his own team. When Shaq went to Lakers; it wasn’t his own team, either. This is just a bunch of jealous mf’s.
@@hope2974 you may be right that he's gone, I'm just saying, why is this even a subject when we have the western conference finals playing out right now. Maybe a subject like, what do the Blazers need to do in order to win this series?
Cuz KD narrative much more interesting than the Blazers game. Blazers most likely will be swept. If the Warriors can win a championship without KD then all his achievements at Golden State might indeed have an asterisk next to them. Lebron could have joined them and gotten 6 championships with them
5:29 "Asterisk Gate" Watch it and roll on the floor laughing! Greatest comedy sketch in years. -Asterich -Ostrich -Asstrish -Abstrich - 6:55 ( ? ) LMFAO...
KD and Curry are easily the top 2 players in the league IMO. Being on the same team helps but even if you split them up they’re both still top 5 no matter how you stack the other players.
Kobe knew he would never get the full credit he felt he deserved as long as he was playing with Shaq. Right or Wrong he forced the Lakers to trade Shaq so he would be considered the man win or lose
Why does everyone act like it's only KD who benefits from the Warriors like playing on this team isn't easy for steph? Or Klay? Or makes Draymond Useful?
@@starpoweredstudios7622how? in the REG sesason Klay and Steph took more shots than KD did... yall were begging him to take more shots when he took 8 vs L.A... they win 2 games and now they never needed him
Are the Warriors better off without Kevin Durant?
No. Hope he stays so yall will have something to talk about.
Yes the entire gsw roster looks mediocre with Kd.
of course.... please get me on the phone for this topic
Warriors got lucky on their first championship playing thru a bunch of teams that had injuries. Second time around Lebron beat them at full strength. adding Kevin Durant makes them favorites for the title.
Nolay Austin transbronsexual
This is a ridiculous topic.
They won a chip and 73 games before him.
They won 1 chip before him thats all that matters....if you dint win the chip it doesnt count...they flopped in the finals...kd won them 2 more and got 2 fmvps....and carried them thus far this year....yeah they need him. Everybody just mad because as long as hes there the rest if the league has no chance...lebron
@@mikeevans4051 You act as if 1chip and 73 wins without Durant is an underachievement.
#comeonson
Justus Equality thank you
They also lost the a championship up 3-1, first in league history to do that.
@@mikeevans4051 KD won them 2 more? What?! They 4-0'd the Cavs and 4-1'd them lol, they didn't KD to beat the Cavs in 7 games lol
Why is everyone acting surprised ? GSW won before KD .
Yeah no news here
EXACTLY.. they didn't need KD.... KD jus put them out of reach... They 29 and 1 without him...
They are dumb. Because they need kd. But they don't need him for hou an overhpyed Portland
They also lost without KD.....Blew 3-1 lead....Cavs Win......Any of those ring a bell? KD there for a reason and he has two finals MVP for a reason
Against a team with no love and Irving not impressed
Kd knows his team is good without him way before he got their cuttino..
Exactly
I swear this guy been hating for a while now. Nit picking everything about KD's career while the titletge NBA gave Cleveland was more than a stimulus package.
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good is an understatement. the GSW are great without KD lol
Media was praising KD to the high heavens and immediately turned on him first chance they get, even though KD was injured and has nothing to do with how he played.
P L I swear they was saying he was having the best playoff performance since Jordan now he’s not needed uhhh okay ... I can drive my car with no hands doesn’t mean I need or want to but I can if I had to
I think they forgot how good curry and klay were and now they are reminded kd is a good player but the media over hyped the last few months and are now over compensating by saying all tgis negative stuff
Yep i remember a few weeks back they been comparing him to MJ
P L it just tells you how good the rockets are. People hate on harden and cp3 but they were the only team the warriors were worried about
No, it's just USA, there is something called 'rest of the world' that is acutally normal...and not on day to day basis...
"All you gonna do is sound smart to dumb people"
*Perfectly said*
Whitlock mad cause he was wrong golden state ain’t finna lose regardless 🤣
@Steve Jobs kd gets credit cuz he was finals MVP kd was leading a team that was okc but heres the catch without kd okc would not make the 2012 NBA finals plus LeBron had a overpower bench on the heat now my point is this LeBron didn't lead the Lakers to the playoffs even tho when he came back from a injure the Lakers still a good chance but now he failed to lead the Lakers to a playoff spot Kobe is greater then Bron so yeah
@Steve Jobs sense u wanna take credit away from kd I do the same for LeBron Kobe is better closest thing to mj
Tee Moncrief Exactly lmao
Media is weird asl always tryna bring someone down
People love negativity
Facts
facts
You want to watch a show where "everyone is great, we are all winners, we are all super and amazing" come on now
Tha Ruthless 1_ AZF bro but it’s everyday tho so wth
The Warriors give KD the platform to be the best. Steph is normally the one that gets doubled, and you can't ignore Klay either. KD being the 4X scoring champ that he is often isn't getting doubled when Steph and Klay are on the court. And on defense Klay usually takes the primary back-court threat and Draymond runs the defense, so KD gets to benefit from playing mostly help defense.
KD is dope, but if you take KD away, or Steph, or Klay, or Draymond, you greatly decrease the chances of the team winning the championship, but the current narrative is that KD is saving the entire team. The team is greater than the sum of its parts.
They need kd
@ElectricB facts!
My thing is where is KD supposed to go where there are no superstars playing? Cuz as far as I know all cities that players want to go to have stars or will br recruiting in the off-season.
corey thomas they needed him out of their way...the only thing they needed....he had a better team then them and folded
@@djones1943 exactly! The thunder were the better team that year, KD and Westbrook just choked. Also they knew Lebron couldnt best them again if they added KD. Killed 2 birds with one stone.
"would that be an asterich" 🤣
😂😂😂😂
That would be an ostrich!
Jeff Sherald they keep saying it too, all loud and wrong 😂
clay cox facts 😭🤣
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Fellas.. the word is ASTERISK.
Not ostrich
Not asterisse
Not astricks
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Asskicks 😅
Say it 3 times fast
😂😂😂😂👌🏾
Hahahahaha
It's been 2 games without kd and the media has already forgotten what he has done this postseason smh
Harry Steele the Warriors are 38-4 without him since he’s been there
His finals mvps completely cancel out your point lol.@@antw9770
Harry Steele GSW has done more for KD than, what KD has done for GSW. Without GSW , KD has no rings. Without KD, GSW is still contending, if not champions.
put any other top 5 or 10 player on in KDs spot and they will have similar success. any other star will look good as an add on to the warriors
@@Kevinschart facts
KD was brought to neutralize LeBron! so, outside of Bron's Team, KD is just a safety blanket! Just remember, Warriors with Iggy is a way better team than warriors with KD vs Rockets!
Dub23zero FACTSSS. The Warriors with KD we’re MADE FOR LEBRON now that is not an issue we see they’re still dominant without KD, they just needed KD because he’s the closest player who could match LBJ’s output so KD and LBJ canceled out each other and we all know the other Warriors players were 100X BETTER than the Cavs roster
Its Chatham THAT and it also gets KD out ya way. Dont have to face him if he sittin on ya bench. Two birds one stone
Facts
Are safety blankets, whatever that is, important or nah?
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"We don't need you, we won without you" draymond
said the guy that recruited him
"...yet we asked you to come here." That's the part Draymond left out, why'd he leave that part out?
Also left out Draymond calling him a mentally weak “b**ch” haha
@Joel Johnson no he wasn't. The "1 they won without him" was agaisnt Cleveland with no Kyrie or Love. Then the next year against a healthy Cavs they blew a 3-1 lead and Draymond cried to KD in the parking lot after game 7. That's straight outta the horse's mouth.
@Joel Johnson coulda and you didn't.
Stak face when Whitlock was throwing shade at Bowen 😂😂😂
Stephen Jackson always showing love to KD ✊🏽
Nah he just seeing with unclouded vision. He's talking from a player's stand point. Like praising russ' triple double average
Hes saying what ive been saying this whole time. The primary objective for any organized sport is to win championship. It aint about who needs who. It aint about numbers or who joined what team. All that other noise is spectators which includes media and fans is personal opinion. KD gotta win the way I want him to win. He gotta put maximum effort on a team with no help or form his own and not a former 73-1 team for me to approve or validate his success. FOH.
@@chono981 i love the part where jackson roasted em for putting an asterisk on some championships but they themselves don't have any championships on they belt. Cause there is no easy way in the NBA and only the ones who laced em up know that
EverydayLifestyle That where me and he part.
We were robbed of the greatest rivalry in basketball since 80s Lakers v celtics...Cavs v Gsw had so much potential... but k.d. came and ruined it... those rings mean nothing
Exactly you said it perfect
Bout as much as your life huh? I concur!
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU
It's been there.... y'all just figuring this out?
Truth
ronny lopez 🗣
Nah it’s not
If KD has asterisks then so does Curry and Klay who begged him to join them after blowing a 3-1 lead in the finals after squeaking by Lebron with no Kyrie or Love in 6.
If AD would have went to the Warriors instead of cousins these convos would be so different
Would Marcellus and Stephen not put an asterisk by Jordan’s championships if he joined the Lakers or the Pistons. Nobody would call Jordan the goat if he went and joined the best team ever that just beat him. Cmon now.
Stop tryna degrade KD, the warriors r doin their job
KD Got The Weakest Rings Of Any Superstar In Nba History
Zim umm lebron is no different stop picking and choosing just remember bron started this joining forces era
LANDIS ELLIS actually it’s been like since forever ago charles went houston and kg went to Boston
@@zim3383 it doesn't matter how he got it, people like you are haters regardless of how he gets it. He could have gone to your junior high school, take your junior team to the nba finals and you'll still be hating. You know why I know this? Because there's nothing haters hate more than a winner.
Eschatonx No We Like Competition & We Like Ppl Winning When They Earn It. . Not Winning Because U Took The Easy Way. Could The Bulls Even MAKE It To The Finals Without MJ? How About The Lakers Without Kobe? Heat Without Lebron? Spurs Without Duncan? Pistons Without Isaiah? Course Not. KD Is The Only Superstar To Ever Play For A Team That Can Even MAKE It To The Finals Without Him. Let Alone Win It All. . That’s Why His Rings Are Worthless
You mean to tell me that all 4 of those guys don’t know how to pronounce asterisk? 😳
Sorry they didn't get an A+++++ In English like you did. They were too busy making millions of dollars playing a sport.
Ryan James wow, it’s a joke bro, and so was your comment because if you’re saying that it’s ok to mispronounce words if you have money then more power to you bro, by the way I didn’t get an A in English but I also didn’t get an Asterichhhhh 😳😂
@@claycox1829 No one needs nor cares about your desire to be grammar police. Some words are hard for people to pronounce. Sorry they don't have perfect pronunciation like you do. We're not worthy............smh
Clay Cox, I agree dawg! It’s funny how ppl act as if money excuses sh!t...Nope! So if you don’t have as much money as they do then it’s not ok? They’re “professionals” that are getting paid to SPEAK and do more criticizing others at that. 4 dudes to not know shows their ignorance of and others that excuses it.
Ed D. King my man 👊🏾
In 2016 the Warriors beat the Rockets twice. Then went up 2-0 against the Blazers before Curry came back. Were those Warriors better without Curry?
Then they got destroyed in gm 3 by Portland. The Warriors without Curry and with KD are an average team
They use to say that they were, I remember
Has Whitlock ever hooped or hit the gym?? He has all these opinions lol. He flip flops alot also
Then again, many on these type of shows do.
The warriors with kd: iso and throws the team off and slows them down
The warriors without kd: ball moves faster fast breaks offense runs more smoothly
Yet numbers say you are full of it and have no opinion of your own. Their assist numbers with KD are the same. The only time GS runs a ton of isolation is against Houston who switches everything and when Steph and Klay are shooting bad and KD goes and gets them buckets because he’s the only player on the team who no one can guard
KD, the guy who made a burner account not bothered lol? The man even came out and said winning those chips didnt fulfill him like he thought it would
Kd laughing watching the show rn lol believe me. He big chilling, knowing he bout to try and get that FMVP
@@Ali-zd4sz that won't stop him from going back to those burner accounts. He's said himself he cares what others think. That's the mentality of a teenage girl. If KD was less insecure he wouldn't have even thought about going to golden state and wouldve said hey we shoulda beat them and we will.
I didn't know KD said that and I can't read into it but if I said that, I'm looking for something to fulfill me. For me it would be the HOF, who knows what it is for him, he may not know.
If KD is the reason the warriors get to 5 peat he will be elevated to Mt. Rushmore.
braiden45 that man don’t care how y’all feel. He care about how he feels.
Let Bron or Kobe get hurt and see how his team win or lose.... yet y’all compare KD to Bron and Kobe🤦🏾♂️
Guerilla Publishing, INTL. 💯💯💯
KD is just not that alpha player to lead a team. Otherwise, Westbrick would have been ran out of town and he would have stayed and ran that OKC team.
bs james always brings players everywhere he goes to win and when he doesn't he can't make the playoffs. kobe had shaq and phil jackson surround with talent and leadership that groomed kobe to a champ.. kd couldn't do that because everyone was/is scared of westbrook ego to say give the ball to kd.
so kd decide Instead of looking for a team that was going to take time to build around him and play his style of ball he went to the team who plays his style. Another thing warriors cannot beat the cavs with kyrie except with Kd. warriors would have never won a ring if kyrie didn't get injured. the year warriors beat kd was because of westbrook. I bet if warriors face the spurs that same year warriors would've lost that series. curry shows up against weak defensive teams. look at curry during the 2016 championship kyrie gave him the business and warriors won 73 games that year.
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The heat would've been alright with just wade and Bosh tho
KD went to GS to not have to worry about competition.... exactly.... but the problem is a few fun dummies appearing to be analyse think KD is the best player in the nba
Benny Ghanee yup kd can’t do what kahwi doing. Kd can only do it on gsw.
He had wb harden ibaka
He’s had wb ibaka and Adams.
He’s had super teams his whole career
Kobe Bryant 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ you sound so dumb saying that
Kobe Bryant harden was mediocre
Harden was the 6th man of the year....or nomineee...he qas still a bucket getter, average approx. 20 per....🤔
Draymond called KD before he took a shower after the Cavs gave them that L. Steph, Klay, Iggy & Draymond the ones that y'all should be mad with. They the one who flew to the Hampton to get KD. So I guess they made a weak move
Jason Whitlock got enough negativity to separate any weak team
More like separate any team !!!!
Why would KD be bothered when he’s been carrying them this far 🤷🏾♂️
Carrying them? They bodied KD b4 he came crawling to the Warriors looking to gravy a ring
Carrying who??? They won without him. His rings in GSW have asterisks on them. If he wants to be on the same level as lebron, he needs to take a bunch of scrubs to the finals period!
Steph is the Man carrying the Team. He's proved that time and time again.
Either way KD isn’t bothered he is going to win a championship and get more money thru free agent dude is chilling
@@Omilloadams whatever, we know he's bothered because he's thin skinned and wants to be on the same level as lebron.
Yes it's a asterisk next to his name..
KD took the easy way out and joined a super team that beat him.
History will always remember that in the internet age where nothing disappears.
Only people who are jealous say it is a asterisk
What will history say about a 73 win team that was up 3-1 in the Finals and lost 🤔
@@donnellbrown4575 no they wont. The people that know the facts and truth.
donnell brown people are not jealous that’s just the fact he won 2 championship with an easy way even draymond say to him that they don’t need him. If you put giannis, lebron, Kawhi, Harden they would have also won the 2 titles with the Warriors just stop you know that and we all know that.
@@yvans. lol you sound really really jealous
Imagine if Michael Jordan joined the 80s celtics... THAT'S WHAT KD DID WITH THESE WARRIORS.
Lol
No, there is no asterisk. It’s a team sport. The whole team gets credit for a championship. Durant has been a key contributor to the Warriors’ success.
KD is the greatest SECOND option of all time. He’s not the leader or focal point of this team. This is not hard, HES not close to best in the world
Jordan Gonzalez Thank you 💯
Well if you use your brain and think really hard, gsw is built around steph so him and steph missing games is a large difference. If this team was built around KD yall be singing a different tune.
Daryl Vergara and if you used your brain since they signed him, they have catered their game play towards Kd and the flow is off and they are closer in games with teams and when steph is out and only kd “leads” they lose a lot. When kd is out and Steph leads, they’re like 27-2 or something and the team flows better as Steph is the main focal point
@@TrippleJJPlusH you made the exact point im making. steph is the focal point. Isn't that what i said? Steph IS the POINT GUARD. Starting PG at that. Does it really surprise you that when the main playmaker is out they struggle?
Kd's titles' has asteriks as soon as he joined golden state
LeBron never had his own team. He recruited stars in Miami and Cleveland. He is trying to recruit stars right now. Translation for this discussion: break up GSW at all cost LeBron must win another ring lol
So do we same the same about lebron
@@tat8894 as a matter a fact many make the exact same argument.
Difference is what did Cleveland do without Lebron this season? Before injury Lakers were 4th seed? with Lebron. OKC still "good" without KD making playoffs. I think all that counts grand scheme.
KD easily the best player in the game right now. S. Jackson, what's wrong with making it easy? Well the success is simply not as impressive is all. Frankly I don't think KD needed GSW and vice versa. KD just needed away from Westbrook, unfortunately he took the easiest possible path - when he did not have to, to win.
My Tittles have asterisk too
Then Ray Allen should have one when he joined Lebron but you bronsexuals will beg to differ
KD is a top 3 player in the league but we all know he had to join the champs to be a champ.
@Thanasis GolematisU sound sensitive my guy. They were just the best regular season team ever and a game 7 away from a back to back
@@dundada9053 They still lost the finals thoe, which mean they weren't the best team. Won 73 regular season games just to get beat in the finals, I dunno why people overrate that team so much and the flaws were so apparent with them.
@@EastSideRudeBoy they were still the best but lost imo. Its hard to overrate a 73 win team? Sounds like you're underrating them. They probably had less flaws than any other team in the league including Cleveland
If he "had to" then why are you complaining? According to you, he had no other option then, right? But see, that's how we know it isn't about that. You know he's talented enough to win anywhere else. Or else you wouldn't be this mad. You're just mad that he is that talented and yet still chose to go there, making it harder for your team to win. Boohoo.
@@RoseCurry5 not complaining at all just stating facts
Good teams suppose to still win with players out , that's what makes great teams great
Did Wiley just say 'how is this the same team?'. Hmm same coach Steve Kerr, same 6th and 7th man in Iggy and Livingston, and they have the same big 3 before Durant came, Curry, Thompson, and Draymond. Seems like the core of their players and the coach is the same to me.
Why would KD be bothered if he knows they won before him and still joined ??? HE chilling
Media likes to create drama.... or these guys are ignorant. Kareem was 6 for 11 in the finals. They only talk about the 6. And the 4/5 he won with Magic
Most ppl who down KD don’t know basketball. His stats with and without GS says it all. And the argument he joined a team that beat him because blah, blah, blah is laughable! Players get traded, go cause of FA or whatever but the fact remains, those rings and stats aren’t giving to you, those starters and bench guys put in work.
They was all fixing to say no at the Barkley rockets situation, I’m telling you people really mad cause golden state stopped lebron run at the top KD joining them was just the icing on top
who mentioned lebrons run here?
kadesh roberts KD joining them was the cake. Warriors without KD probably lose to Lebron and Kyrie again. They had no answer for Lebron.
@@jasonjones8938 they were ther favorites going into 17, and wouldve easily won in 18 without Kyrie
People on this show undisputed and first take I bet are miserable people in real life
Why because their not blind bandwagon GS warriors fans? All they're saying is truth. The warriors won without KD and were a Kyrie Irving jumpshot away from winning back to back. KD needed the warriors more than they needed him. That's facts
Funny how petty dudes like Catino Mobely think all guys are petty like him!!!
Yep he compares him missing games to durant.. like cmon now. No cutino mobley can duplicate what a Durant brings on thd court
who is mobley again?
This group of guys bring real talk subjects all the time. Always enjoy their passion when they played and today
Smh....these guys are delusional.
Draymond green recruited KD...not Stephen Curry.
Steph and Klay don't need KD period.
You’re crazy if you think they had no part in it. They all went to the Hamptons together for a reason. Ya it was Draymond who called him crying after game 7, but they all had a hand in it
@@crazytrain111 naw, that was Draymond's overly emotional nonsense.
Steph secretly didn't want that mess.
@@crazytrain111 Did Draymond ever say he was crying, or was that just Shannon? I honestly want to know.
@@crazytrain111 in support of their teammate Draymond...Steph signed off on it yes but he didn't initiate conversations with KD. That glorious distinction belongs to Draymond Green in the parking lot post Game 7 loss to the Cavs.
the reason GS lost the series against Clevelansd is because Draymond Green was suspended one game,
I'm a Spurs fan. Stephen Jackson is the most gased up player ever. Dude hit a few threes in the finals, started acting up,Pop let him go. We bring him back hoping he's humbled, Kawhi was on the rise and Stephen thought he was better than him,let him go again. History of being a hot head. Takes every opportunity to get at my Spurs cause he's bitter and also gased up. Just like the Patriots have a bunch of bitter players who they let go,doin nothing but bashing them on television,as the team keeps....on....winning.....without them.
honestly in 2012 he help also againts okc... we lose tho all the support except kawhi were choking/choke (danny, tiago, gary, matt, anderson, etc) but yeah i agree as a spurs fan also, lol.
KD is a bum. He was up 3-1 lost his cool and choked. Then crawled to the team that beat him. A 73 win team.
KD will always have questions on the validity of his championships. He wouldn't have them without Golden State but they WOULD HAVE THEM WITHOUT KD
Justin Erickson I agree. If he goes to another team and wins at least 2 rings, he’ll surpass LBJ in this era most defiantly.
Depending on what lbj does of course. With that being said, I think lebron wins another ring or 2.
You can’t not be the best player when your team can win without you. 31-4
Boston won without Kyrie. In Miami, the win without Lebron. Raptors won without Kawhi.
Marckenz D Miami wouldn’t make the ECF without Lebron
Elton Francis no you’re point makes no sense. With MJ they would of won that championship
@@MegaCoolboy78 they didn't even may the playoff and the east was weak when Lebron left...
@Elton Francis brother your history on the bulls during that stretch is foggy. When mj left bulls they won 55 games and the previous season they won 57 games they didn't go to the eastern conference finals they lost in the second round.
And you all wonder why KD hates the media. Leave the dude alone for 5 MINUTES!
Yeahhhh... this is what they make millions for lol. No one is making KD play in the NBA but if you want these checks the media and fans come with the territory. The day media stops talking about him is the day he’s a broken down nobody. That goes for every great player btw.
I think that some ppl forgot how good GSW was before KD because of the playoffs and how mediocre the splash brothers were playing. I remember a reporter said they need KD because GSW aren’t bad but they aren’t the warriors they were before him and they are aging. Now that KD is out everyone is backtracking. KD definitely should leave because this is reminding everyone the easy road he took. He needs to prove a point.
I wonder if Wikipedia will add an asterisk to The GSW’s championships with KD on the team in 30 years? “oh well, Steph could’ve carried the team without him so his championship is less authentic”
Like what are we talking about here?
yeah, real fans will know lmao. what are YOU talking about?
Of course not, but we judge everyone’s championships differently. Scottie Pippens rings are viewed differently than MJs. I think in 30 years KD will get Pippen-esque praise for his rings. Being a piece of the puzzle rather than being the guy who puts the puzzle together, if that makes sense. Kinda like Kobe’s first 3 rings, most people respect his final 2 rings WAY more than the first 3 because he won those as his teams 2nd most important player... of course they wint have an actual asterix, we will just give him less credit for his rings.
Anyone could get a Wikipedia account and add an asterisk 24/7
Denny Kaleal facts. Another example : If championship would count the same Robert Horry will be greater than MJ, Kobe, Duncan but we all know that is not true.
Xavier Moyssén What? Like internet trolls? Or people on Twitter? What impact does “real fans” have on his championship?
Will he not be able to go to the HOF because “the real fans thinks your championship(s) have an asterisk”?
Stephen Jackson just does not understand what Mobley and Whitlock are trying to say.
And people act like kd is better than LeBron. This team was already stacked
I believe that GSW. Can win a champion with out KD
They won Champion before KD why not now
Against a Cavs team with no kyrie or Love. Stop it
lmao they won a chip against a team with just bron, and he still took them to 6, once they got kyrie and love back the next year the warriors lost, then immediately called Kd, and the warriors would have lost the 2017 finals against that same cleveland team if they didnt have kd, and they also would have lost to the rockets team last year, not to mention if kd doesn't come back against the bucks in the finals there not gonna win, so i dont know whats up with you dudes watching 2 games without kd and saying they dont need him, it's a reason the warriors celebrated like they won the finals after they beat the rockets game 6, because that was there western conference finals and they beat them without kd, they wasn't jumping up and down when they beat portland, because portland is not a threat, they should beat portland without kd, they been beating portland with and without kd for years, portland got swept by the pelicans last year lol, i think golden state is a good team without Kd, but with him there a championship team, its a difference, portland is a good team without Kd, but if he joined them they would be a championship team, getting to the finals doesn't make you a championship team, sometimes it comes down to matchups when and what round you play teams in, so until i see golden state win a title versus a team with all there core players healthy or even somewhat healthy then im gonna stick with they need Kd, im a golden state fan, i want them to keep winning, but there's no question they need the best player in the world to win a title, maybe not this portland series, but defintely for the finals
They lost one they should have won without Kevin Durant.
@@onlyfacts9820 bogut was injured that time and green got ejected rememeber that??
@@onlyfacts9820 and when they had kd, Cleveland can't even make the fight harder for the gsw.. Those were easy,very easy championships for gsw!
Stephen Jackson was never a superstar, borderline good/bench player at best
Gamerman-10 no way man I don’t believe it, he keeps telling me about how incredibly tough he is and is the original two way player
Who the f** said he was???
Steven Jackson is so biased to his boy KD. It's much easier to get Fmvps when your teammate is first on the opposing teams scouting report
@Elton Francis bro, the man rarely if ever gets doubled! Look up the video " how Curry makes it easier for KD" for a detailed analysis. There were plays in the 2017 finals where KD had wide open lanes to the basket because Richard Jefferson and Jr was so focused on curry. Even in last year's finals you could tell Cleveland game plan was to stiffel Curry. That's the best chance you have of beating them. Why do you think the games KD scores are always close? I'm not trying to say KD ain't great, but it ain't like he's back in OKC and is the 1 focus. Remember game 6/7 with the double team GS threw at him Remember, he got those Fmvps with curry on the floor.
These dudes saying KD need his own team are the same ones that say lebron needs alot of help
santos10314 look at Lebrons supporting cast then look at KDs for the last two years and ask yourself did that question make sense
@@omaidolor8929 they been saying lebron needs help for years
LeBron is leading his team, kd is in for the ride depending on steph ...
Man said what's wrong with making it easy.....I was so dead after that
Why would KD be bothered? Did we forget KD is a multi-millionaire with a good 5 years yet to build his legacy. He also has 2 rings, 2 finals mvp's and will be in the HOF. That's for starters.
Is he was multi-millionaire when he created his burner account ? 🤣🤣. KD is insecure that’s cool but stop to justify that with his money because obviously he care a lot about what people think about him.
KD is not better than Olajuwon. KD is not top 10 all time.
@@KreyzAim Who cares about Olajuwan, this is about KD.
@@yvans. I said, "Why would KD be bothered...", didn't say he is bothered. Neither you or I knows how he feels. A burner account could mean he likes to communicate with his fans. There are many PEOPLE with burner accounts, are they all insecure?
Master yes, anyone who makes a burner acc to defend themselves is insecure. That should be obvious to anyone above 20 iq.
Just so much fun watching dem boys on Speak for Yourself.
We been knew this wit 🤨 glad you said it tho. Best take you had in years
The warriors are killing it without kd. It's nice having him but they don't need him to win.
Dramond Green is the Anchorman and Heart ❤️ of the Warriors!..Without Green the warriors will collapse....These are facts 🔥🔥🔥. The Splash Bros and Drammond is the true Core of the warriors 🔥 KD is a plus but not needed either ⭐️
Why would KD be upset if he knew he joined a Dynasty way before he got there? A Duh 🙄 LoL That would be foolish on his part...Drammond is the Nucleus of that warriors team...I can join the warriors and get a ring...I know they have a dynasty and a big 3 🔥🔥🔥 facts 🔥🔥🔥
Legacies are built by being Leaders and not Followers. KD subconsciously did want his path easier but he also wanted to be part of teamwork dynamics. The Warriors can't win a Championship without Steph and that's the Truth. Yes, KD can't be stopped one on one but he can't win a Championship without a mental leaders like Steph, Klay, Iggy and Draymond. Mental Toughness wins it All. Just Watch MJ!! My favorite player of all time. On the other hand I really love how the Warriors Play. Draymond was awesome in the last few games and his toughness is so attractively powerful and doesn't care how big the opponents are. I also feel the Warriors can't win without him. They all compliment each other and no they didn't need KD. He's a luxury!!! We gotta give credit to the bench and their mental toughness. Steve Kerr is doing a great job.
Hes been had asterisks next to his titles. This is nothing new...
You ain’t lying
They won a ring before KD and two straight finals appearances and the NBA’s best regular season record ever. The team is almost the same outside of Harrison Barnes. Am I kissing something?
Every typical NBA fan outside the Bay Area has been saying that. At least, Whitlock is willing to admit on live TV now. KD is gonna have win elsewhere before we can call him a Top 5 player of all time.
Shaun Gorzell you sound dumb so brady should leave the patriots to prove hes a great QB 🤦🏾♂️ fool of the year award goes to you
Cuttino and Whitlock are absolutely right.
Durant seeing how strong and good the warriors are without him still dominating. He about to resign with the warriors this summer . Ain’t no way he want to lose to the warriors again lol
Gambit false, if he as good as everybody say he his, it’s time for him to beat them himself
@@Roc_Official That's my point. He is NOT as good as everyone says he is. This whole "he is the best in the world" narrative is weak because he got a few rings and is on a team that contends on championships without him. I think he is going to realize he needs the Warriors more than they need him. He can't be like Giannis and Kawhi and Harden who take all the blame/responsibility for team success/failure
Cuttino says : can that be an Ostrich? IM DYING 😂😂😂😂😂 @ 6:35
Warriors don't need KD, if I remember correctly KD couldn't beat GSW with KD
I remember correctly GSW called him not the other way around
I love Jacks but he is wrong on this one. The greats don't look for the easiest road, they make the hard roads look easy.
KD is a great no matter the road the only reason it’s easy is because he’s so great 😂😂
That's funny. Look at the teams record when he doesn't play. It's clear he isn't needed to win, even if he is the best player on the team. Because he was close in OKC with Russ, we all know he can get there with less talent, he just has to do it and win this time with another franchise.
GS dont need the (best player) of world ,kd needs GS to win because he will never win in other team
@H Az well if curry is a bum kd is a pc of 💩💩
@H Az thats why chose GS? Kd is not a lider his a follower😁😁😁
Now THIS was a debate!!! I'm trying to see more of these!
Mobley don't forget Warriors loss to Cleveland at 2nd championship run without KD. Then after KD joined them Warriors won next 2 championship so I believe they need each other.
Warriors only lost to Cleveland in 2016 because of the rigged suspension on Draymond Green and also Bogut and Iguodala both got hurt. That situation allowed for a comeback. They were up 3-1, if Draymond didn't get suspended, they would have won 4-1 for sure since Bogut didn't get injured yet. And remember they only lost by one shot in Game 7, it could have gone either way. When both teams were fully healthy, Golden State mop the floor with Cavaliers that year.
I guess all of the GS players should have an asterisk by their championships.... because the team could have won without any one of them.
Catino is the only one talking logical....
Stephen Jackson not so much 🙄
No he’s just bias
He just mad the warriors beat the rockets down.
Joel Johnson also choked a ring away without him lets stop the bs
No fam life is about making easy decisions, and getting the most out of you talents. GS does this for KD.
Stephen Jackson is keeping it real . Houston is better than Portland. The reporter on ESPN said Golden State felt like this was a regular season game. Understand if they 3 peat , they will be one of 4 teams. CELTICS, LAKERS AND BULLS........ GOLDEN STATE. How many people have multiple finals MVPs . I know it is less than 10 . Russell, Jordan,LeBron , Magic, Bird, Shaq , Duncan , Kareem, KOBE, DURANT .
The moment he decided to sign with the team that beat him, it put an asterisk on everything. He'll always be number 2 and his team will always never need him to be great
It's been there since 2015... Y'all just now figuring this stuff out?
Sorry, but when Lebron went to Miami, that wasn’t his own team. Then when Cavs got Kyrie and Love, he went back to CLE that wasn’t his own team. When Shaq went to Lakers; it wasn’t his own team, either.
This is just a bunch of jealous mf’s.
Back 2 Back MVPs erase imaginary asterisks.
Why it is so hard for them to give credits to steph and the warriors without kd...
Steven Jackson is friends with KD
Lmao these ppl saying KD titles don’t have asterisks. He joined the team that he chocked against. And GSW is not his team.
Gotta Love Captain Jack.... That's a Real One...💯
Why is this even a subject??? Y'all are digging deep for KD to leave the Warriors. How about talking about the actual game that happened?
He's gone anyway. The true test for KD is, can he still win without joining a 73-9 team?
@@hope2974 you may be right that he's gone, I'm just saying, why is this even a subject when we have the western conference finals playing out right now. Maybe a subject like, what do the Blazers need to do in order to win this series?
Cuz KD narrative much more interesting than the Blazers game. Blazers most likely will be swept. If the Warriors can win a championship without KD then all his achievements at Golden State might indeed have an asterisk next to them. Lebron could have joined them and gotten 6 championships with them
5:29 "Asterisk Gate" Watch it and roll on the floor laughing! Greatest comedy sketch in years.
-Asterich
-Ostrich
-Asstrish
-Abstrich
- 6:55 ( ? )
LMFAO...
KD is laughing at these guys behind closed doors
nah.. hes probably in the comments defending his self
“Everybody wants to feel the power of their influence in any situation” so true.
Stak speaking facts thru this wholee vid
Gamer/Tech Fo Real!
KD haters on the panel. There is no question of KD's talent.
Talent? No. Spine? Yes.
Robert Horry's rings mean more than KD'S
KD and Curry are easily the top 2 players in the league IMO. Being on the same team helps but even if you split them up they’re both still top 5 no matter how you stack the other players.
Allen Baerry... name the 5 players better than KD and Curry.
Ok LeBron go to gs win another 4 you're now better than MJ. SMH.
Exactly
@@gerominomohican1565 word
On god if would’ve did that he won like kd did Lebron the 🐐 let his girlfriend tell it
if Bron went to GS he would have got KILLED
"Stop. Next--what are you talking about--"😂
Kobe knew he would never get the full credit he felt he deserved as long as he was playing with Shaq. Right or Wrong he forced the Lakers to trade Shaq so he would be considered the man win or lose
Exactly, he said it himself. He had to get more than Shaq for his legacy
Whitlock and cutino is right. Wiley always being a sucker to players
KD and a great OKC team could not beat the warriors who was up 3 to 1 over warriors
they wasen't great, but they could hv been if okc was behind kd instead of that non point guard westbrook..
Can we make a drug test to jason whitlock?
He's right on this one
He'll test positive for whoppers
Too much talent at GS, too many teams need KD and Boogie, have mercy. On the same token other teams wish they had a choke hold on.......
Why does everyone act like it's only KD who benefits from the Warriors like playing on this team isn't easy for steph? Or Klay? Or makes Draymond Useful?
Drymond is a great player with or without kd. Steph has to defer and klay turns to a third option. It mainly helps kd
@@starpoweredstudios7622how? in the REG sesason Klay and Steph took more shots than KD did... yall were begging him to take more shots when he took 8 vs L.A... they win 2 games and now they never needed him
To Every Non Warrior fan there has been an Astrid to his name! This Man joined a 73-9 team that didn’t even need him.