Tandem Vs 2 | Who’s Faster, 2 Roadies Or A Tandem?

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  • We've seen the Tandem bike going against 1 rider, and it was pretty one sided, but how about a 2 up? Are tandems actually that much faster than individuals riding together? We've roped in a TT expert in Jonathan Schubert and Conor has chosen a trusty teammate to see whether the tandem can be victorious again!
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  • @gcn
    @gcn  3 роки тому +62

    Would you race a tandem? Let us know in the comments 👇

    • @mbstrix
      @mbstrix 3 роки тому +5

      Yes

    • @kedarkulkarni3030
      @kedarkulkarni3030 3 роки тому +6

      Filipo ganna doesn't come
      Connor: what is the next best thing: Alex
      Person who won silver at tt championship:😑😑

    • @PrzemyslawSliwinski
      @PrzemyslawSliwinski 3 роки тому +2

      Been doing that for the the last ~30 000 miles... (Gotta say it loud!) I mean "riding" not "racing".
      ;)
      BTW: Will Ollie be a captain next time?

    • @kevinomeley3043
      @kevinomeley3043 3 роки тому +7

      I do every weekend against solos, winning more often than not with a 30 minute handicap over 50kms

    • @Pshady
      @Pshady 3 роки тому +4

      As a tandem owner, I would love to.
      Never seen a race I could enter on one : /

  • @tiagosantos6273
    @tiagosantos6273 3 роки тому +831

    Tandem vs Si's TT bike would be a clash of the year

    • @gcn
      @gcn  3 роки тому +206

      Watch this space...

    • @joachimschranzhofer5566
      @joachimschranzhofer5566 3 роки тому +12

      We need this to fill the void between TdF and the Olympics!

    • @cryskabarchenowa3000
      @cryskabarchenowa3000 3 роки тому +3

      Will be waiting for this!

    • @MrAyley7
      @MrAyley7 3 роки тому +7

      CLASH OF THE TITANS

    • @sepang87
      @sepang87 3 роки тому +19

      If the tandem was only 5 seconds faster than 2 roadies, then I would expect this to be a walk in the park for the Siborg and his TT bike. Nonetheless, totally looking forward to it!

  • @jonlee7440
    @jonlee7440 3 роки тому +293

    2 Tandems, Si on his TT bike and Manon in the Recumbent. This would have to be the finale 😂

    • @jonlee7440
      @jonlee7440 3 роки тому +40

      And maybe Hanks dad on an ebike 👍

    • @laurenzetheok
      @laurenzetheok 3 роки тому +8

      And hank on a bmx

    • @bernieboi8943
      @bernieboi8943 3 роки тому +3

      And someone's dad on a derestricted e-bike

  • @dezoksiribon
    @dezoksiribon 3 роки тому +115

    I figured it out about Olli. Not a professional, but ok, many can relate to him. Olli is GCN's 105! The presenter of people!

    • @jendralhxr
      @jendralhxr 3 роки тому +11

      perhaps more like Ultegra? since he's got doctoral degree. Dan (nowadays) is the 105

    • @dezoksiribon
      @dezoksiribon 3 роки тому +10

      @@jendralhxr nope, you didn't get it. And Dan is more like Ultegra that never worked properly since the first day you bought it😁

    • @denverspin
      @denverspin 3 роки тому

      sticky cables

    • @cikguhadi3673
      @cikguhadi3673 3 роки тому

      We love Olli so much

    • @jendralhxr
      @jendralhxr 3 роки тому

      @@dezoksiribon Dan apparently was Dura-Ace [that never set up properly] , he rode for *you know what* Cervelo Test Team in a world tour.
      Nowadays, he rides with his family rather than competitively; that's why the 105.

  • @carldowningphoto
    @carldowningphoto 3 роки тому +144

    Some clear UCI rule-breaking aero positions in this one 😆

    • @DeathSc00p
      @DeathSc00p 3 роки тому +4

      Good job the UCI are not setting the rules!

    • @bobbysilver272
      @bobbysilver272 3 роки тому +2

      The UCI can go *%&" themselves.

  • @glharlor
    @glharlor 3 роки тому +44

    "I was paid to carry water bottles" hahahahahahaha

  • @matthewlewis2072
    @matthewlewis2072 3 роки тому +13

    "I was paid to carry water bottles"
    Such agonising honesty from Conor...

  • @notpablo8369
    @notpablo8369 3 роки тому +34

    Manon's recumbent vs tandem + time trial + roadbike draft

  • @CliffGraham
    @CliffGraham 3 роки тому +12

    FWIW, my wife found this more interesting than any of the other 300+ hours of cycling events and videos I’ve shown her. Kudos!

  • @leslie7922
    @leslie7922 3 роки тому +74

    We need six seater tandem GCN vs GTN

    • @agunlogisteam
      @agunlogisteam 3 роки тому +12

      Add Martyn Ashton +Blake on random tandem just for extra chaos🤣

    • @jojoanggono3229
      @jojoanggono3229 3 роки тому +3

      That would be awesome! perhaps we should do gravel tandem as well, don't you think?

    • @OperationDarkside
      @OperationDarkside 3 роки тому +2

      New Channel "Global Tandem Network"

    • @nigeldepledge3790
      @nigeldepledge3790 3 роки тому +1

      This sounds brilliant, but it'd be a bit one-sided. GCN would beat GTN on bikes. But when it comes to swimming and running, I think GTN have the edge.

  • @emszabi
    @emszabi 3 роки тому +62

    Would like to see what time the 2 pros can make on the tandem.

  • @Rover200Power
    @Rover200Power 3 роки тому +66

    Climb and descend Mt. Ventoux, tandem vs Hank vs Hank's Dad.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  3 роки тому +5

      😮 Brutal!

    • @joachimschranzhofer5566
      @joachimschranzhofer5566 3 роки тому +6

      Would probably violate the Geneva Convention...

    • @Rover200Power
      @Rover200Power 3 роки тому +2

      @@joachimschranzhofer5566 Give Hank's Dad the most overpowered e-bike on the market to even things up.

    • @marianneoelund2940
      @marianneoelund2940 3 роки тому +1

      Descending Ventoux on a tandem would be utterly frightening. We have a 10% grade in our area, and even with my friend and I on our tandem (we're a relatively light team) it will hit 55+ mph.

    • @Rover200Power
      @Rover200Power 3 роки тому +1

      @@marianneoelund2940 need to get some big rotors on there for this challenge then 😉

  • @thelonesculler
    @thelonesculler 3 роки тому +20

    Me: *sees the title*
    Ah s***, here we go again

  • @Quevallyn
    @Quevallyn 3 роки тому +27

    Great video. That final line up at the fence is like seeing Legolas with the hobbits 😂😂😂

  • @viktorgirkejrgensen2344
    @viktorgirkejrgensen2344 3 роки тому +21

    You shoukd try tt bike VS tandem

    • @gcn
      @gcn  3 роки тому +2

      Nice idea!

    • @iancuk
      @iancuk 3 роки тому +1

      It's only a matter of time 😅

    • @mariop8101
      @mariop8101 3 роки тому

      Only the TT has at least 12 kg and made of steel.

    • @iancuk
      @iancuk 3 роки тому +1

      @@mariop8101 not necessarily, just make sure it's Oliie on the TT bike😂

  • @DavidMackenzie
    @DavidMackenzie 3 роки тому +34

    Ollie wins again! Now we need the tandem vs recumbent!

  • @Bettys_Eldest
    @Bettys_Eldest 3 роки тому +3

    I used to time trial my Jack Taylor touring tandem, fitted with 27x1 1/4" high pressure tyres in the mid 80's. My stoker was useful, having won the Mersey 24 hour, but I was very much a middle marker. In '85 we won the Newmarket & District Tandem 25 in around 55 minutes, beating the winner of the solo event by over a minute (he had placed third in the National 25 the previous weekend). We rode well together, and would beat many pairings who individually would have wiped the floor with us. We were well matched and made the most of our talents.
    The tandem here would have been a couple of seconds quicker if the stoker had started with his feet clipped into the pedals, rather than the pair wobbling away from the start.

  • @jedricmercado7126
    @jedricmercado7126 3 роки тому +6

    This "vs" series is unfolding great, if we wait long enough maybe we'd see Manon on a recumbent, Si on his TT bike, Ollie on the tandem, Hank's dad on an e-bike, and the rest on a road bike train

  • @ipang0957
    @ipang0957 3 роки тому +18

    Hell yeaa another vs episode 🔥🔥💪

  • @thinksimon
    @thinksimon 3 роки тому +10

    I ride tandem with my wife and hills are much more difficult than riding a single bike, but we have rather different training level. It would be interesting to see how tandem with two strong riders performs on a hilly/rolling course.

    • @Bettys_Eldest
      @Bettys_Eldest 3 роки тому +4

      I had heard that tandems were hard work up hill. On our first ever ride it was killing me trying to get up any hill, until after an hour in when we flew up a long steep hill. When I mentioned this to my wife, she admitted that she had been so scared to start with that she had not been pedalling, only letting the pedals drive her feet around.
      I always enjoyed rolling, or lumpy rides, where you could power through the bottom of the hill and up the next. Steeper and longer hills need a different approach, picking the right gear and cadence, so as not to die on the hill.
      Back in the 80s, my racing partner and I could ride out of the saddle, though he (as stoker) would rise first and I would join him a few pedal revolutions later. I have ridden alongside pairs who could both rise together without even a word, they were so in tune that it was unreal.

  • @beastmaster_6426
    @beastmaster_6426 3 роки тому +60

    More tandem content please

    • @gcn
      @gcn  3 роки тому +13

      Plenty more to come! Let us know what else you'd like us to pit against the Tandem!

    • @beastmaster_6426
      @beastmaster_6426 3 роки тому +8

      @@gcn Maybe 4 seater tandem vs 4 cyclist.

    • @prudenciomangaoangiii403
      @prudenciomangaoangiii403 3 роки тому

      @@beastmaster_6426 4 cyclist no diff

    • @michaelclements2885
      @michaelclements2885 2 роки тому

      @@gcn That was a fun video. Tandems are super fun and fast, yet so few cyclists know much about them. Ride a 40ish mile road course with some climbs, descents and flats, one tandem crew, one pair of road bikers. Then ride it again the next day, swapping the bikes. Then see how the times compare, and see what the riders say about the experience.

  • @jetthamilton8131
    @jetthamilton8131 3 роки тому +33

    Connor wouldn’t have been able to hold Ganna’s wheel😂

  • @glenbartholomew1058
    @glenbartholomew1058 3 роки тому +1

    Speaking of tandems vs a team. I once rode in the back of a tandem recumbent with a yellow faring (The Banana) during a local bicycle fundraiser. In front was the 60+ year old, retired engineer, designer of The Banana. Our main rival was a 4 man team; 3 amateur and one ex-pro. The equalizer was as hill in the middle of the circuit. We did well on the flat and screamed down the hill. But they blew by us going uphill, it’s hard standing up on the pedals in a recumbent. So if I remember right it was close, but the bike team beat Team Banana.

  • @brannmacfinnchad9056
    @brannmacfinnchad9056 3 роки тому +4

    I would be curious to see power numbers, and particularly how much further tandem went with having to take the corners wide.

  • @madwank
    @madwank 3 роки тому

    I love GCN, thank you for making bikes even more fun!

  • @flageolett
    @flageolett 3 роки тому +1

    @Ollie: you can have a quicker and more controlled start if the captain initially stabilizes the tandem, you get up and get already seated with your shoes already clicked in and one pedal at 10 o'clock position. Then the captain also clicks in on the low side. To go off, the captain only has to click in on one side while you are already pedaling. Works great!

  • @marjorieboissinot2037
    @marjorieboissinot2037 3 роки тому +12

    That was mega! Maybe a similar challenge on a hill climb? But one with a proper scientific one not like the one Hank and Ollie did for the “secondhand” cheap bike challenge. 😂 That was just scary! 🙈🙈

  • @thomasoei7089
    @thomasoei7089 3 роки тому

    Amazing! They all look blooming smooth whipping around that track.

  • @martinandersson5833
    @martinandersson5833 3 роки тому +1

    That was fun to watch. Great video. Thanks guys👍😃

    • @gcn
      @gcn  3 роки тому

      Thanks, Martin! Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @R6ex
    @R6ex 3 роки тому

    Awesome stuff! The tandem riders are in perfect sync and aero!

  • @Condemakoto
    @Condemakoto 3 роки тому +5

    Nice vid! I was hoping for Ollie's team to win so we can see the tandem vs 3 next time xD

  • @iangreenstreet1407
    @iangreenstreet1407 3 роки тому

    Enjoyed the tandem content 🚴🚴

  • @mikaelh4743
    @mikaelh4743 3 роки тому +12

    Yey another bantervideo, nevermind the cycling :P

  • @ericspokas9122
    @ericspokas9122 3 роки тому +2

    Gcn at it again answering questions nobody would ever ask

    • @FlatSpinMan
      @FlatSpinMan 3 роки тому

      But now we all know.
      GCN - boldly expanding the boundaries of human knowledge.

  • @bubblesezblonde
    @bubblesezblonde 3 роки тому +1

    Conner and Alex defeated, wow! Now I REALLY feel good about smoking that tandem I 'raced' on the trails last fall....Great race really enjoyed it!

  • @Originaltwins
    @Originaltwins 2 роки тому

    You guys are were the cycling Fab Four! Great fun!

  • @goncalocapao1246
    @goncalocapao1246 3 роки тому

    Really nice vibe on this tandem race !! I woukd love to see some review on those DMT shoes they look neat!!

  • @pauls9440
    @pauls9440 3 роки тому +1

    Next time try the tandem uphill :) we used to seriously struggle on ours after motering past the top riders on the flat and downhill....

  • @kathyerickson9402
    @kathyerickson9402 3 роки тому

    Loved Ollie's lead in voice...ha ha! This was great fun to watch and I think a great challenge would be pedal pub races.

  • @maxdonaldson861
    @maxdonaldson861 3 роки тому +2

    We need to see what a tandem can do on hills

  • @janchris7947
    @janchris7947 3 роки тому +15

    Ollie not being dropped and actually winning? I can see how happy he is. :D

  • @TheLinessCompany
    @TheLinessCompany 3 роки тому +3

    Could you maybe do some footage from above the track with a drone? That would be really cool, the close ups are great but a view of the full track would be lit. :) Also thank you for the awesome videos! Hope to see Manon soon in another one she is so cool

  • @michaelwillis4528
    @michaelwillis4528 3 роки тому +7

    The end bit by the fence looks like one of those forced perspectives they used in lord of the rings to film hobbits

  • @christopherlauriat
    @christopherlauriat 3 роки тому +1

    Hill climb next please (tandem vs. 1 rider), plus Ollie explaining the physics.

  • @walcottav
    @walcottav 3 роки тому +1

    More tandem! And cowbells. 🐄🔔

  • @joeyr4869
    @joeyr4869 3 роки тому

    Top quality video production boys

  • @ukaszzyka6279
    @ukaszzyka6279 3 роки тому

    I literally had a dream about meeting road tandem today, and here we are :D

  • @yosefu5326
    @yosefu5326 3 роки тому +5

    The more GCN presenter involved = more fun video

    • @gcn
      @gcn  3 роки тому +3

      Glad you enjoyed this one, Joseph!

  • @davidmckenzie4092
    @davidmckenzie4092 3 роки тому +8

    What a great intro... sorry Ollie, I laughed so much, I peed myself

  • @saajan8600
    @saajan8600 3 роки тому

    all the love from india fellas

  • @thommomonk
    @thommomonk 3 роки тому +1

    2 Races now & Ollie still not dropped….. #props

  • @Justin-zv4cm
    @Justin-zv4cm 3 роки тому +13

    That was a pretty solid 'Merica voice, Ollie!

  • @GotDamBoi
    @GotDamBoi 3 роки тому +1

    don't let em get to you Oli, that voice IS cool

  • @vesalehtinen4534
    @vesalehtinen4534 3 роки тому

    Little and large, batman and Robin, you guys crack me up 😂

  • @Jon-Lewis
    @Jon-Lewis 3 роки тому +6

    "Hey mate" - Top video, good banter.....LOL

  • @danjee464
    @danjee464 3 роки тому +1

    I'd like a thorough rundown of the tandem, like you used to do with pro and presenter bikes

  • @e46t
    @e46t 3 роки тому

    That Bob Jackson tandem is so blooming cool.

  • @davideferlin8053
    @davideferlin8053 3 роки тому +8

    I was really hoping to see Ganna joining the race 😢

  • @saurinsavla9310
    @saurinsavla9310 3 роки тому

    Hearing Ganna was coming to GCN made me so excited!!!

  • @nousphabmixay986
    @nousphabmixay986 3 роки тому

    Good storytelling.

  • @simontapley3294
    @simontapley3294 3 роки тому +1

    Horrible to picture Si in his TT suit again but definitely tandem v Si! And Hank and Hank’s Dad on the tandem vs Lloydy on one of the EBay bikes!!

    • @gcn
      @gcn  3 роки тому

      Ha! Great ideas!

  • @dennistay9980
    @dennistay9980 3 роки тому

    Yay! Ollie! Congrats!

  • @yonklovesskin
    @yonklovesskin 3 роки тому +1

    I would like to see the two pros on the tandem

  • @sonicx059
    @sonicx059 3 роки тому

    Although he did even better this time around... That was awesome.

  • @saddleweary9709
    @saddleweary9709 3 роки тому +1

    I wander if putting the cranks out of sync at 180 degrees would speed up the tandom. Out of sync kayak racing is faster. Would love to see if there's a difference. Fun vid fellas

  • @magnusmandel
    @magnusmandel 3 роки тому +2

    I can't wait for 5 cyclists VS TT bike VS recumbent VS tandem VS Hank's Dad.

    • @mikebarrett91
      @mikebarrett91 3 роки тому

      Hanks Dad on his electric Bike! with Boost Button... like ermm.. like ohhhh ... DRS that's it... Hank's Dad can use DRS in the straight during certain points on the circuit!

  • @alex31721able
    @alex31721able 3 роки тому

    That Tandam fact was cool

  • @dudeonbike800
    @dudeonbike800 3 роки тому +1

    With a non technical course, the tandem would have done even better. It would have been great if they had done two runs with each on half bikes and on the tandem. That would have clearly showed the tandem's advantage. But having the S-curve in the course definitely threw a wrench in the test.

  • @stevemawer848
    @stevemawer848 3 роки тому

    Get a tandem trike - that'd be worth watching! I remember back in the 1960s they had trike and tandem trike races (and bicycle, of course) races at HMS Daedalus at Lee on Solent. The trikes were awesome, especially when one rider rolled his tubs off on a corner! You know you want to ....

  • @andypughtube
    @andypughtube 3 роки тому +1

    How about a carbon aero triplet or quad? Maybe too expensive.
    I built a trandem as a student, back in the 80s. You can't use standard wheels or bearings (by which I mean 80s conical race bearings and steel 36 spoke wheels) if you want speed. The trandem was quick two-up but slow three-up as the parts started to struggle. It took a skilled pilot to not fold the front wheel in half setting off from rest.
    Back then I just brazed three bike frames together. I reckon that it would not be as difficult as you might imagine for a carbon frame repairer to do the same with a set of cheap eBay frames. If you want to go with this idea I will make the hubs (with oversize bearings) and eccentric BBs (for chain tensioning) for free.

  • @volkanbekdas
    @volkanbekdas Рік тому

    It's great!!

  • @mitchrich5015
    @mitchrich5015 3 роки тому +3

    At 0:33 - Is Conor so tall that people have literally started using him as a lamppost now?!

  • @lincolnm3890
    @lincolnm3890 10 місяців тому

    It seems like a battle between drag power versus muscle power. I would be interested to see the results using a less linear pedal system on the tandem bike.

  • @tallulahbeaverhausen4382
    @tallulahbeaverhausen4382 3 роки тому +3

    Suggestion : Tandem vs TT vs Recumbent.

  • @1999vizz
    @1999vizz 3 роки тому +7

    Ollie at 1:57 giving me major Hermione vibes

    • @FlatSpinMan
      @FlatSpinMan 3 роки тому

      This part was my favourite. It really cracked me up.

    • @dlevi67
      @dlevi67 3 роки тому

      Well, he _does_ have a PhD...

  • @dmv4554
    @dmv4554 3 роки тому +1

    Love ollie’s accent!

  • @jamesmckenzie3532
    @jamesmckenzie3532 3 роки тому

    Johnathan and Ollie on the Tandem versus Hank's Dad on the unrestricted e-bike!

  • @simontapley3294
    @simontapley3294 3 роки тому +12

    Or get the old band back together!! Lloydy and Matt “the ears” Stephens on the tandem vs Slippery Si and his TT machine!! I’m sure Sigma Sport could lend you Matt for a day!

  • @haideralibd
    @haideralibd 3 роки тому +1

    vs episodes are the best

    • @gcn
      @gcn  3 роки тому

      Glad you enjoy them! What do you want to see VS next?

  • @thedudewithpedal
    @thedudewithpedal 3 роки тому

    Had me in the first half. Damn connor!

  • @Evgen-Evgen-Evgen
    @Evgen-Evgen-Evgen 3 роки тому

    Of course we want tandem VS 3 VS 4 VS 5))

  • @fergo308AE86
    @fergo308AE86 3 роки тому

    Three-way challenge required.
    Tandem vs. 3 ex-pros vs. SI on his TT bike.
    Si needs a 20sec handicap of course given his previous performances however.

  • @christiansusilo6847
    @christiansusilo6847 3 роки тому

    Great content more please😂🤣👍

  • @kevinomeley3043
    @kevinomeley3043 3 роки тому +1

    The tandem would always be quicker than the 2 solos because it is more aero than the solos. Once they are wound up the speed of the tandem is hard to beat.
    Me: 2021 Australian National Champion ITT tandem.

  • @raymondo162
    @raymondo162 2 роки тому

    shared a tandem with a mate in the 70s. tremendous fun messing with the driver by leaning the wrong way in bends!! it was a Sun Wasp - a beautiful piece of engineering. yeh

  • @-P-Z-
    @-P-Z- 3 роки тому

    Nice one

  • @perun_macej
    @perun_macej 3 роки тому +2

    climb some big mountains on the tandem pls

  • @jacobandmaggieable
    @jacobandmaggieable 3 роки тому

    big'n'small, batman&robin - great friendly insults

  • @alexheney
    @alexheney 3 роки тому

    I can't believe I never knew there was a race track behind the karting centre. I've ridden past there quite often, without ever noticing

  • @sherwinsalvatori6997
    @sherwinsalvatori6997 2 роки тому

    Maverick and goose vs viper and jester. You never , ever abandon your Wheelman

  • @JasonTrew2018
    @JasonTrew2018 3 роки тому

    You're going to need everyone to beat that tandem

  • @tesmith47
    @tesmith47 3 роки тому

    A damn tandem!!!!!

  • @escamunicha4276
    @escamunicha4276 3 роки тому

    Riding a tandem bike with Filippo Ganna would probably be like riding an e-bike

  • @mahenkeesoony1337
    @mahenkeesoony1337 Місяць тому

    yes a rematch please

  • @johndorney7812
    @johndorney7812 3 роки тому +2

    Next race has to be a hill climb with tandem ;)

  • @kristiantheslayer
    @kristiantheslayer 3 роки тому +1

    I would like to see the tandem take on the Col Du Bannerdown.

  • @rnghwdbcs
    @rnghwdbcs 3 роки тому

    Do some descending with it!
    Actually, anything montaneous would be interesting

  • @schwangster
    @schwangster 3 роки тому

    Time to do a hill climb on that tandem!

  • @markolazarevic4209
    @markolazarevic4209 3 роки тому

    For a second I actually thought they brought Fillipo xD. I knew it was too good to be true, but for some reason they still got me

  • @VAustin89
    @VAustin89 3 роки тому +1

    Tandem on the velodrome perhaps???