Recovering a Crane DESTINED for the Scrap Yard ~ Broderson IC70 Diesel Deck Crane
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- Опубліковано 12 чер 2024
- Today we are headed after an old Deck crane that has been siting in the weeds for MANY years. This old crane was almost definitely destined for the scrap yard when I found out about it, and I just COULDN'T let that happen!
We will see what it will take to get the machine moved, and maybe, just maybe we'll get it running if we can.
Recovering machines is always a fun adventure, so sit back, relax, and enjoy the recovery of this old Broderson IC70 Deck crane today!
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Thanks as always for watching and following along with all my crazy adventures here on Salvage Workshop, I TRULY appreciate it!
Please enjoy! I know I did!
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0:00 -Introducing the Broderson H70C
0:38 - Initial Walk Around / Clean off
15:07 - Attempting to Start the Machine / Engine Inspection
26:20 - Using the Starter to Raise the Out Riggers
33:02 Moving the Machine with a Wheel Loader
34:45 - Loading the Machine with the Service Trucks Winch
37:46 - Using the Loader to help Load the Crane
38:52 - Chaining it down and Heading back to the Shop
40:00 - Inspecting the Engine & Under Side of the Machine
47:19 - What is a DECK Crane? & How are they used?
49:37 - Removing the Muffler & Air Intake from the DECK
51:24 - Starting the Wheel Loader Forklift
53:21 - Preparing to Unload the Deck Crane
54:00 - Broken Steering Cylinder
55:46 - When Unloading the Deck Crane all went WRONG!
57:03 - Using the Wheel Loader Forklift to Pull the Crane off the ramps
1:00:18 - Building a Backwoods Ramp at the back of the Trailer
1:00:42 - Using the Wheel Loader Forklift to Finally get the Crane OFF the trailer
1:01:45 - Pushing the Crane into it's Parking Spot
1:04:09 - Final walk around and plan for the machine
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f you have any suggestions, questions, or comments, please leave them below! Thanks for stopping by, I truly appreciate your support!
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@@SalvageWorkshop what happened with the old 3 phases machines from 2 years ago, are those stored in another shop or are "rescued" for good?
@@SalvageWorkshop you're a funny man. Water in the engine, first thing you do is start the engine with the startmotor without a 360 on yhe crank. Hydrolock it straight to hell. Lmfao good game on the more engine damage kek.
those are scammers!
I think it is a Fordson 4D industrial diesel engine, made in the UK at Dagenham and these engines were actually called the Dagenham range, available as both the 4D and 6D (6 cyl.) versions. Very characteristic rocker box cover shape and the horizontal injectors are also unusual. As well as being used in tractors, they were often used on stand-by generators and in small boats. They were considerably cheaper than their Perkins, Lister or Gardener equivalents.
Hi it's not a 4d industrial engine those are 220 cu and look identical to what's in my Fordson major tractors this has way to many differences. Another youtuber has a similar crane, and those injectors had me thinking when I saw it. The nearest i can come up with to this is a 172 or 192 industrial diesel, that's similar to what's in a a ford 8-900 series tractor.
Looks more like the later Ford Dover engine (Dorset I believe was the 6 cyl version) which was mainly used in Ford Cargo trucks in the 80s & early 90s?
Used to work on a very similar 4D Ford in the seventies, they were fitted into air compressors and were very reliable. Used to have to renové a little plug out from the back of the timing case to set the injection pump.
@@WeeShoeyDugless You mean the later 2700 series engines than the original 220 4 and 330 6 D's. Apart from the head having the same idea with the injectors under the valve cover and the head ports the same side, everything else is totally different on this one. Like I said this is a 172 or 192 sold in the American market I never saw one in the UK, but the 2700's were real common and I've owned and still have 4 and 6's in Dags, Dover's and Dorset ranges
@@Broozer-fw3vl I know what you mean about the plug, Ford in their wisdom had a special tool nobody now has,that was supposed to screw in there to time the pump. it had a spring pin in the tool to indicate the countersunk hole in the gear was in the right place, I just sold a tractor with one of those motors in and read my service manual to tell the guy last week when he asked.
The ear muffs are for running an outboard motor in the yard, drive way, shop without having to drive it to the lake ever time, but you knew that,🙂 keep them coming.👍👍👍👍👍👍
Had one of those cranes in my shop, it was a great asset to the shop and reliable. It was still operational when I retired, Used it for unloading equipment and replacing engines in large equipment. Great piece of machinery.
really enjoyed you including the "Screw it" moment of just ripping the crane off the trailer.... the fact you included it makes your content so much better than many who make it look like everything works first time everytime...
Thank you my friend! I will ALWAYS keep those things in my videos, because sometimes, that's just the it can go when recovering old junk the way I do! Glad you enjoy the channel! Lots more to come!
yeah i think the draggin it off would have been my first attempt instead of all that jazz with the forks and chains xD the forklift isnt rated for that weight it was lifting the back wheels
It’s a four wheel counterweight ! It’s gotta be heavy to do the work it does without falling over like a kids toy…!!
After watching that removal, all he’s getting from me is an eye roll…🙄
@@RS-bj2my I’m sending that eye roll back to you lol
Please keep it! This is, by far, the most *interesting* vehicle you've ever rescued! I want to see it restored and repainted and nicknamed and all of the good stuff. You could get a LOT of use out of this machine!
Also, I really do hate to feel stupid for asking, but how did you know it was a Diesel engine within the first 2 seconds of lifting the lid on the engine compartment? I honestly thought it was a standard gasoline ICU just by looking at the cover on top of the block. Go ahead, flame me. lol
@@StealthDonut1 No need for flamin, nothing wrong with asking! I knew it was diesel because there was an injection pump and not a carburetor... also there were no plugs, plug wires, or a distributor... plus the fuel filters on diesels are typically larger and closer to the engine / injection pump like it was on this engine.
Lots of little things, that all add up to it being diesel!
Good question!
I worked for a company that had a service truck with a large hyd tank and quick connects on the back. We had a long set of hoses we could connect to a broken machine to operate the hyd of the machine, super handy!
Most of the YT videos that hit my feed are 20, 30 and occasionally near 40 minutes long. You drop an hour + video and I don't blink an eye. I know I'm going to be glued to my screen for the duration. What you do, how you convey it . . . it's worth my time and I am most grateful. Keep up the great work and more importantly, Thank You!
FYI, most downriggers are pretty easy to raise without the hydraulics running. Use a bottle jack to raise the machine far enough to slide a floor jack under the downrigger pad, then let the bottle jack down. Pump the floor jack up a few inches to put pressure on the cylinder and move the downrigger's control valve lever to the UP position. Most valve bodies will allow the fluid to flow back. Rinse and repeat until the pad is high enough to not get in the way. Outriggers like on a backhoe can't be raised all the way with this method, but you can at least push them up to a horizontal position. I've raised them the rest of the way with a strategically placed come-along or chain hoist. As you might guess, I have a lot of things with leaky cylinders.
YES
All Crane cylinders including outriggers have holding valves installed in the cylinder. This valve keeps the cylinder from drifting in or out while holding all the extra weight the crane is lifting. The valve most likely in the can side of cylinder where the hose's go in will need to be removed and then the rod will be able to move.
@@komatsutech1this is what I came to say.
When you removed the bend on the exhaust pipe beside the engine , it was fully coated inside with black soot with no sign that rain water had been flowing in that way
In 95 I spent three months working in Atlanta. They had a large Grove crane trying to lift a brand new crane like that on to a higher level. The Grove boom was extended to far out and the welds broke with a large KA- BOOM and crashed down on the driver cage and took off the hydraulic tank on the small crane. Smashed them both flat. My coworker and I were watching the gauges testing our lines and witnessed the whole thing. Ah the memories.
Oh my... that would have been a sight to see!
We had something similar in our mechanics dept., it was called an Iron Fairy. One of our mechanics put a brush shaft through a young apprentices overalls and suspended him from the crane then swung him around like a fairground ride. Love, health and respect from Scotland UK.
We had two of those where I worked and they went out on many jobs with our field crews. I can tell you that if you can get that thing running again, it will be your best friend around the shop. It's kind of like a big yellow Swiss Army knife.
I operated a Brodersen Crain for 10 years that one is one of the smallest ones it’s a good unit I haven’t watched the whole video yet but will after I send this message. They do have known problems to watch out for I’ll watch then possibly respond further
That's a Ford Industrial 4D engine without a doubt. Used for many years on Tractors and all kinds of different equipment.
That's what I was thinking I had fork lift and it looks like same motor
That starter the real MVP here
I could watch your videos all day. I really enjoy your videos brother. Thank you for making them. I’ve actually been able to call out several channels from early on that ended up becoming very popular. You’ve already got over 200k subscribers but you will have well over a million before you know it. It’s going to take just a single video for you to really gain a ton of subscribers from. I have that feeling that you’ll have a video that becomes viral. Anyway, keep on making amazing videos brother. Thank you 🙏
Thank you my friend! I truly appreciate the support! We'll see where things go... no matter what, im glad you enjoy the channel! Lot's more to come!
We had those in company I worked for. Really handy in tight spots, and low ceiling areas. You can carry a tremendous amount with a carry deck, great little machines. Glad to see you trying to salvage it, thanks for the ride along.
The left most hydraulic control is probably for swing left or right.
Thank you for taking the time to make the videos kind sir, I know how much effort goes into filming and editing, you and Matt at diesel creak seem to love saving these old beasts, all the best from England 👍🏻
The older machines that need rescued are usually a good way to go as far as price I bought an old pettybone crane and with all the work I put in it I have less than 6k invested and a few weekends with the kids and it's been working hard for 17 years now
Gotta love that old school red/blue light bar
That is a ford 172 diesel. That’s the identical engine that’s in a ford 4000 industrial tractor. The injection pump is a Roosa master. The injection lines running through the side of the head are actually running to jumper lines that feeds the injectors that are fashioned in a typical up down manner. Message me if you need more information but you can find most anything you’d need available online.
He should try bleeding the injectors, just loosen the lines at the injectors and crank until fuel comes out steadily in spurts. Go easy on the starting fluid or you will blow the ring lands off of the pistons! Happened twice on the engine I had in a Balmar loader, replaced it with a gas farm tractor motor, it bolted right in!
Love seeing these old workhorses getting a new lease on life.
I like the little building with 2 AC units in it. It would make a great back yard man cave.
Great find !! She will be running in no time ....pretty doesn't alway's win the show I think she has character !! Glad you could dave her from the torch at the scrap yard ....it willbe amazing to hear her run !! Great video as alway's !! 👍👍
Brodersons are excellent carry decks. Well worth fixing up.
I want one of those!!!! I can't wait to see the next of this series!!!!
I have no doubt that you will have this up and running in no time thank you for sharing this with us six stars brother
Comments have been made suggesting that the engine is a Ford UK Diesel and speculation to the model type. I worked in Ford Parts in the UK. If you can get to the side of the Block it will have a casting number eg, 508E 6015 /2701E 6015 for the Truck engine or C5NN 6015 for the tractor Engine. Each of the numbers will be followed by id letters for example 510E 6015 AA for instance. It is possible that it has a CAV injector pump if it is UK made. There may also be casting Numbers on the Inlet Manifold. Hope that this is not to misleading
That's a real nice find. With a dead machine try putting a jack under an extended outrigger . Then pump the jack with retract motion on the lever. Once it's where you want it put the lever in the neutral spot. It worked more than once for me. Good video !
Thank you for saving that little wonderful crane. Look forward to see it revived.
Good video, You will get that crane to run, you have a knack for getting the old ones to have life again.
FORD 192 CU. IN. INDUSTRIAL. THE LATE 50'S FORD MODEL 861 FARM TRACTORS USED THAT ENGINE.
Glad you picked something to get running. A break from the shop. Beautiful shop looks like you have it filled up already
I’m amazed it is that complete and not rotted out totally,this will make a nice piece of equipment for you to use in your everyday projects.good video,just keep doing what your doing and carry on 👍👍👍😎😎😎
These are made from like 1-2” thick plate steel, would take a century to rot out lol, they are built like tanks
Quality!
Man you find the coolest gear.
Its 3.11 in night here in Holland and why am not sleeping. Just love vids like this
I really enjoy your video and appreciate how much love and enjoyment you put into your hard work.
Please keep up the great work and keep the videos coming 👍👍👍
We used those all the time in the oil patch. We called them carry decks. Very handy for getting into tight spots that aren't accessible to conventional cranes.
That is a really cute little crane! I’m glad you saved it, and I hope you can get it operating again without big trouble. I’m looking forward to seeing progress on this one. It looks like it will be really useful.
I love your videos! You, the NNKH guy and Derek from Vise Grip Garage are the most down to earth. Not fake hard working guys fixing things on UA-cam
Looking forward to seeing this thing get up and operating. Great video
What a cool machine, Matt! Thanks for saving it. An interesting project.
Thank you, I like everithing you do, I like when you recover wrecks and when there is mechanics, thank you it is awesome 👍👍👍👍
MORE TOYS!.... WEEEEE!
Great find! I’ll wait patiently for the revival video!! Thanks for sharing
You are my hero by safe old machines like that I also like old machines like that
OMG! This is going to be awesome 😁 thanks
I think that little flat platform on the right side where the lid of the motor is might be the platform for the outrigger Mats.. so you always have him on the machine with you..
Awesome channel saving old iron so fun to watch one of the best yet
Sunday evening safed 😁
Good to see you!! That was like watching myself tackling that. If it could go wrong, it would and it did.. Good job!
What a cool little crane. Thanks Matt 👍🏻
Love this channel can't get enough
Soooo stoked to see your vid today! Man I’m a Salvage Workshop Junkie! Fantastic work!
Got it done is the motto.
Enjoyed this video very much.
Blue is trademark of Ford since almost ever.....bet that is very early Ford tractor engine rare as most early tractors were gas. Hey you are very entertaining with your agility to hop and jump, swing around stuff bet you were one heck of a tree climber as a kid. lol. Good content you and Diesel Creek Matt are two of a kind would make a great team making all these saves and cobbling them back together.
Hope to see you get it running that would be cool
Thanks for the videos
I’d look at the compartment under where the air box and muffler were, in front of the tire, I think this might be dead space. Would make a great place to add a panel for access and put your muffler.
I can not wait to see you repair and this Old Girl Running again! Super enjoy your content and Glad you are Back! I missed your Videos! Oh, my very 1st dog was a Weimaraner , her name was Folly!
Good work your so good at fixing things 😎👍🏴
The standard engine for this model, via a search, was a Perkins.
Thank you!!
Another excellent salvage and video. 😎👍
After further research the engine appears to be either a 172 or 192 cu in engine used in Ford 800 series tractors. They had an Injector setup like yours. Jensales has manuals.
I agree you
The only other one of those Broderson cranes I’ve seen, is the one we have in a local mill. It’s used to get to places where you can’t use a larger crane.
G'day that crane is awesome and so glad you are saving it mate.
Top notch fiddeling right there! ❤️
Geez, what a wrestling match! That old girl put up quite a fight!
Awesome find and that looked like a lot of hard work loading and unloading
Hope you saved the lightbar!! Fairly collectible and looks really good.
Nothing better then seeing an old piece of Equipment get saved from the scrappers. Enjoyed your video
Neat old unit be great to get it running all the best well done
Matt, I never even heard of Broderson cranes before but it looks like the Ford 192D (or is it D192) in one of the boat hoists at work. It could be a 172. I don't know how wide the Ford line was. It is an offshoot of Ford tractors. They also made it as a gas engine. The fuel system is a little finicky to bleed. As I recall the injectors are vertical and what you see are extension tubes. The pipe plug in the intake manifold should be a cold start coil plug, one at each end. Even with glow coils, she is hard to cold start as a recent rebuild. We use a core plug heater for cold temps.You need glow coils unless it is really warm outside for a cold start. Once you get it going it runs well, however. Put a safety clamp on the dead end of the load cable. Look up the approved way with a short scrap of cable clamped to the tail.
Another salvage rescue that was great viewing bro, look forward to see you get this back to working order. Safe travels
Thanks for sharing 👍 😊
Maintenace at the paper mill I worked had one. They are a very useful piece of equipment.
Another nice vid Matt.
I love watching your videos
Morning buddy. What a great find and it’ll make great videos getting it going and then a good asset for your shop 👍🏻🏴
Thanks for your vid 😇💟💟💟 Love and bless you guys. I hope you don't polluted our planet with throwing everything in to nature and I hope we will hear it run one day maybe.
Wow that would be very handy indeed!
I have operated the Broderson Carry Deck cranes. Great for interior work done inside plants or factories.
Quite the project. Since those Air and Exhaust pipe "pass throughs" look post factory (especially since you said wrong location for the Air Cleaner) agree it's a re-power with "something". As I recall Ford and Perkins used that bluish engine paint. The Oil Filter P/N might be a start as well as Injector Pump Model. Besides that, start crawling around looking for a casting numbers or a data plate someplace. Sure, some pictures posted on a diesel engine online forum might help too. Good Luck and look forward to more on this baby beast.
It's a 172 cubic inch or a 192 cubic inch ford diesel. They were used in 801 series and 901 series ford tractors and the first generation thousand series ford tractors. The 192 is the same block and everything as the 172 it's just bored out and was used in industrial applications ie: air compressors, gen sets, water pumps, and probably this crane. The 2 plugs on the intake manifold are preheaters you'll want those as they are very cold natured, they are good motors and run very well and can still get parts, the vanes in the injection pumps will get stuck if it sits and doesn't get started up and run every now and then, but other than that they are a pretty good engine. Got a ford 961 diesel that I restored that needed a new motor took a 192 out of an air compressor and replaced the 172.
Bravo.....my friend has one......hydrolic what a pain.......but what a kool design .....cheers
I operate one of them almost daily. They are great machines.
When I was in school for my avation mechanics license, my instructor had an older gas version of this crane that had been sitting on the school lot for a while after he used it to move some plane projects around about 5 years before. I helped him get it going again with a new starter and a good carb rebuild. It may look like everything is easy to get to, but with the engine being tucked in the center surrounded by heavy metal plates, it proved to be a challenge, but I definitely enjoyed the experience.
Thank you.
We have two of those "Brody's" at work, I believe same model. Solid machines! Keep up the good work!
...LOOKIN' GOOD, GOOD LUCK GETTIN' ER RUNNING, KEEP SAFE
You've come a long way since that ole bobcat behind the trailer
little of love she will be working again
That white winch/crane/bucket truck is really worth it's weight in gold...
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Iam so glad you saved it from the scarp yard. now you can work at it at on your own time.
I started working on railroad in 1978!
They used those to move truck sets (wheels bolstered that connected the side frames wheels axles brack rigging.
Under powered hydraulics, lifting capacity!
They were useful but bigger machines came along soon!
You know, bigger faster better!
I came out of the era of the Clark’s!
Seen them, was around them!
For you and what you do! It will be fantastic!
There beasts!
Be fortunate careful and use it till you can swap for better!
Like a excavator!
Dump truck of a good vintage!
Life is about to get exciting!
Get your business plan ready! Trust me after a bit you can make your dream come true! That business plan has to be accurate! Do it, do it in the next six months, be ready!
Brodies are great to have around.
What a find , hope you get it going .
If you are ever in the situation where you do not know if it's 12 or 24volt, A quick and easy way to tell is check the volt meter, so long as it has a volt meter. If no volt meter is present start with 12, no harm done, unless it was 6 volt, that would be a headache and a half as the smoke starts rolling.
Il y a un moyen plus simple: Il suffit de démonter une ampoule et lire le voltage!
Hay I just Love To See Old Stuff Rescued, I don't have the funds to do that stuff you do and you put and effort into that, love it keep it up!!!