For the people asking why he referes to himself and his fellow conscripts as soldiers rather than sailors , as would be the case in the US or other English speaking navies: The word soldier comes from the middle ages, referring to a man who is paid a wage to serve in the military (originally from Latin soldarius "one who is paid" iirc) a professional serviceman or mercenary. Any paid military serviceman is a soldier by the literal definition, which is the common definition used in several European languages, including Italian. This word has been used for centuries before the modern militaries, which currently make a distinction between an army soldier and other service professionals, ever existed. It is a contrivance of military nomenclature that the word soldier has been given a more specific definition in English; meaning only a man who serves in the army and not any other part of the military. There are usually specific words for those roles too, but they can all be called soldiers without any inaccuracy because of how the language defines that word and its equivalents.
Informative, yet still grating for an English speaker to hear. Thus, one can say Metatron is not perfectly fluent in (that aspect of) English. Please don't take that too seriously. :-) It is the smallest of technicalities.
Thanks. I did not know that it was different in some armies. In Switzerland the payment anybody in the military or even the civil protection gets is called "Sold" (in German). Probably very close related to the Latin roots of the "soldarius" you can find in the English "to sell", "salary" etc. So everybody getting a "Sold" is of course a "Soldat" in the first place because this means "somebody getting a Sold" (don't mix it with "getting sold" in English - even though it's not completely wrong ;-) So I am, officially, a Soldat in the civil protection, which is not part of the army but it's what you do if you aren't considered fit enough for the army and meant for help in case of things like natural desasters, helping care for refugees etc. I get CHF 5 a day as Sold when I have to go there. I am 40 but they still could call me now if there was anything catastrophic happening and I had to go immediately since I did not yet get officially released.
No, its the term to describe all people of anglo-saxon descent. British, American, Canadian, Australian. Over simplification in case of genetic but culturally wary usefull term, as all those nations share same language and basically same culture and valuses with minor differences.
MrMleczkp You are right in a way. However the term Anglo Saxon refers to the migration of Germanic tribes such as Saxons, Angles and Jutes from the Saxon coast and upwards (now northern Germany and Denmark) to Britain. I don't think people in Britain, Canada, America, Australia etc speak to each other in old Germanic languages. Yes there are similarities in the vocabulary of the English language we speak today and of course the genetic lineage of many British, Canadians, Americans, Australians etc can be traced back to the Angles/Jutes/Saxons but the English language today and the old Germanic languages are not the same. Especially considering how much the Romans influenced our language, it's quite a mix.
I go back and forth between full mountain man and a somewhat tamed down moustache and goatee. The funny part is i never really minded shaving while i was in the service. Weekly haircuts really irritated me though
After my two years service in the ground forced from 88 to 90 in the Italian army (I started as a volunteer and boy did I repent having done it for reasons that would need me to write a book to fully detail) and up to my.... I think it was forty-fifth birthday, when I started gaining grey hair, point in my life I decided it was enough, I've kept my hair actually even longer than him in this three years old video. Down to middle thighs actually. Longer than my sisters.
sushanalone Its not an effective joke if you say it's a joke one comma after you say he looks like one. You gotta wait for a few people to be triggered atleast :D
@@dobypilgrim6160 So...an entire country of people has your respect because of the actions of their soldiers over seventy five years ago? Against some other soldiers who are bad because of where they're from? Makes sense.
Pepperoni is an American sausage, developed in New Your City by people of Italian heritage. It is not sold or even available in Italy. At least not about 20 years ago when I was in Italy. Asked for it on a pizza, they had no idea what I was talking about. This was in Naples, Pisa, Rome, several other cities.
Colourized? Wouldn't it be 'colorized'? If you're going to bastardise the English language, at least do it properly. Tbh, it should be spelled 'colourised'.
Semper Fidelis from a US Marine fan of your channel! Had the chance to interact with a few Italian military servicemen while I was in Iraq in 2004. Definitely some great men, very squared away!
Maybe that is the reason my Ex stopped shaving. I always liked his moustache, but hated the beard. Thankfully he had to shave it for his jobs, He grew it again after our divorce and never shaved again .just trimmed until he died at 63 .5 years ago
Well, i think you benefit from every experience. Or at least most of them. You do learn things there. You learn about discipline, and you learn a few things about people, living together with 50 or 60 of them. And I knew some guys that hadn't moved a muscle in all their life, and the training made them fit enough to be able to run with full military equipment. Also, I always liked weapons and strategy games, so carrying a rifle and maneuvering while in formation was a bit fun for me :p But overall, you learn skills, though most of them probably won't benefit you in your "real" life.
@The505Guys as an ex conscript in Greece who served in Evros (border between turkey and bulgaria, lots of weird things happen there) I can tell you that if you somewhat have your shit together then there's absolutely no benefit in serving. It's only a waste of 9 months of your life (now 12). Keep in mind tho that the Greek army is an absolute joke at the same time though...
So, an analysis of the pre-intro: There's a sicilian mid 15th-century pikeman leading at least a bunch of archers against a castle they are besieging and attacking, while machine-gun fire and canons can be heard in the background, aiming for the pikemen and his archers, which turn out to be native americans, because of their expotic screams while charging to knock the enemy out with their bows. That's obviously historically accurate.
I'm a 19 year old Private in the U.S. Army Infantry. I love being a Soldier and I find it funny listening to how similar some of the duties are between what you used to do and what I do now. I've been subscribed to you for a while and not so long ago I was in high school watching your videos when I should have been doing my work. You're honestly one of my favorite channels and are part of the reason I made it through the boredom of school. Keep making entertaining quality videos. For what it's worth, much thanks and support from an average U.S. Infantryman.
in the Naja (italian term for the year of conscription) if you ended up on the Alpini (elite mountain warfare military corps) it may be a very shitty year hahahah my father in one year build up three bridges, put security nets on the muontains, works with dinamites in very high mountain and very low temperatures! in the end they were only city kids that want only to be at home, the were not prepared for real war, it was just a year of discipline and formation.
MY uncle spent 1 year cuttign the grass in the base, the other one beeing the organizer of a warehouse in a airfield. 99% of the enlisted draftee will spend 1 year doing tedious pointless routine manteinance work. Why? ebcause ina country of 60 millions you don't really need millions of new soldiers each years, so what are you gonan dow ith those 900.000 18 years old draftee that are there in your bases each year? We stopped doing the draft because its a pointless waste of monay. Better have a smaller professional army than a huge mass of untrained leeches.
The battle sounds in the intro include artillery and gunfire, so I like to imagine Metatron is just the only one there clad out in medieval gear and he's somehow kicking ass.
I thought it was interesting that when I was conscripted into the Army here in Norway, we didn't spend weeks or months parading and cleaning our barracks - no we went straight into the forest the day after we arrived. We started out the first week doing patrols, living in tents in the woods, and doing other infantry stuff. The second week was spent at remote mountain gunnery range. It wasn't particularly intense stuff, we didn't carry our full combat loads or go very fast, but we did spend much of the day on the move - and we did get "attacked" at night and did night patrols etc. Only after a couple of weeks doing those things, we started doing the formation marching stuff and cleaning our barracks once or twice each day. After our first visit home, we started learning our specialities.
I did some training in Norway while in the US Marines in the late 90s. Not sure of the name of the base but it was about 2 hours northeast of Tromso. Great experience and I loved training with the Norwegians. One night during training I was on watch and the most beautiful Aurora Borealis took place. What an amazing sight!!
Given the few number of impeccably dressed Roman gods amongst men called Italian soldiers that I have met, it makes sense now that Metatron, impeccably dressed handsome Italian that he is, was once a soldier. Regardless of what you think of the Italian military, we were always a bit jealous of how sharp they looked. Thank you for your service, sir. - an American veteran
Ahhh Rafaelllo, My fellow conscript! I also did my time 5 years ago in the Finnish army! But I sure hope war never breaks out, that would be horrifying........ Only thing I also miss from army is the uniform I loved how all the girls just went insane when they saw me and my friends with the uniforms on at the bar on friday when we got out for weekend ;DD
I enlisted in the Canadian Forces when I was 17.5. Being a dual citizen in Italy and Canada, I received quite the odd letter about mandatory service while I was in basic military qualification in Montreal. Spent 5 years as a paratrooper and air assault heavy infantry soldier, serving mostly as a demolitions expert in northern Afghanistan during some pretty heavy combat actions. Then I spent 3 years in the special forces regiment as a heavy weapons Sergeant (basically a marine corps Gunnery Sergeant) in the nuclear, biological and chemical warfare mechanised company. Got to train with the Rangers, the Royal Marines and just a bunch of other military units. Almost miss the life, especial drinking makers mark and Canadian club whiskies in Foulkes barracks. And an aside our battalion (3rd royal Canadian regiment), being of the maroon beret tradition almost never had to shave regularly.
My life is a pretty good fish-out-of-water comedy. Serving in the infantry reserves air assault rappel company has been an interesting experience for me and some of the guys with similar experience, proper troopaloopas some of them.
I am retired USAF, so I commend your service, even the short nature of it. I must comment on one item you brought up, you are the same age as my son. Have a great day.
Yes you are correct its not. Usually its up to induvidual and his actions(company he is in,etc). But in my opinion that kind of decipline is important to produce an adult.
Mi hai fatto tornare in mente il mio di servizio militare, tra gli Alpini, iniziato a fine '98. Anche io sono contento di averlo fatto tutto sommato, esperienze che difficilmente potrei ripetere altrove.
Alright paisan, you're going into the navy. But I can't swim, and I get violently seasick! Well then, blame your parents for not having sex 2 months earlier.
I was born in 1978 in Portugal and like you, I was made to join. I joined 21 years ago and I feel very proud of this. It was a great experience and it made me humble and honorable. I was a Guard of Honor of the 2nd Commander of the Northern Military region of Portugal and was on 4 tv channels and I never felt so proud. Thank you for making me remember this. Semper Fi.
My uncle was drafted into the Soviet Army to fight the Mujahideen in Afghanistan and got wounded there, which was more of a blessing really, getting out of that hell. Pretty interesting to hear a modern counter-perspective.
"wake up at 6.30..." "after 4.30 pm you are free..." man. i wish my service had been that chill. getting up at 0500 was no rarity, and though we sometimes had one or two hours of break and "big leave" (meaning you get to go to the nearest city for about 3 hours) once a week, whenever we had nothing to do and weren't on break (break is planned once a week for each platoon in the "day's orders" which is basically a timetable) some officer would come running and give us something to do, even if it was something that had already been done multiple times, if only to keep up appearances of us not beeing lazy. accordingly, we got very good at evading officers if we were done with all our stuff. still couldn't leave the base though.
In many parts of the world its not true. Where i live, people think it gets cold in the winter, but cold for them means you'll probably want to wear something over your t-shirt when going outside for a considerable amount of time.
Interesting tale. Glad that conscription is currently suspended where I live. Honestly I cannot stand it when people try to drill things into my head of how I should feel or be or act, I tend to go straight against it when people force such things onto me. I truly wonder what they would have done with stubborn me. It is not like I dislike the militairy, I see it as something we sadly very much need and I respect those who can and do serve. However in my case I would end up arguing all the time with my superiors, making me rather unfit for the whole deal and than to consider I was once thinking very much about joining the navy :P O yeah and 1 more reason navy would not have been fun, with my height I would have to watch my head all the damn time :)
Isn't it strange that those of us who have done even some obligatory military service, remember it fondly despite it being mostly difficult and unpleasant. I spent 9 months in the Greek Engineer's Corps and even though it was mostly training and cleaning the barracks, I would give it another go for a month or so.....
I am Greek, here mlitary service is still mandatory, for me it's postponed because I'm studying in university, but I don't really mind, I think it's going to be a life experience
Con questo video ho scoperto che sei italiano! mi fa molto piacere che un mio connazionale possa essere così seguito su UA-cam parlando di argomenti come la storia e la tecnica militare e le arti marziali ecc ecc... Grande stima e complimenti per il canale
to everyone saying that Italian military is weak: use Wikipedia, or anything, read the numbers, compare those numbers with France (or Germany, just for example) and you will see its not weak at all. well in some regards (as for number of soldiers or especially naval fleet) is even better. And as for being war tested, Italian army has been in all major conflicts where nato forces where used, from Somalia wars to Afghanistan to Libia to Iraq, et cetera. As for ww2, Italian army was not so bad as allied propaganda depicted it. It was surely not the best but not so bad too. Remember, France was conquered in DAYS, Italy fought against Russians, French English Americans and survived for years. Winning many battles, yes exactly, and many alone against Russians or English, have a look. Until 1943 Italian campaign in africa was quite Victorious and English had their worries.
the Creative Assembly machinimas I agree . To belittle the Italians deminishes the bravery of Allied troops who fought them . I rather think they did not support fascism . Their bullets would be as scary as anyone elses . I work with Italian guys . Excellent people . Cultured and honest individuals . Very family oriented . Their ww2 fighters and naval assets were excellent .
My goodness. It sounds like 10 months in summer camp. We don't have conscription in the USA, (everyone is a volunteer,) but our 'boot camp' (Basic Training) is no picnic.
Raffaello (hope I've got that right) I'm catching up on your "back catalogue" having been aware of your videos for some time (via Lindybeige and Scolagladiatoria, mainly). I was a regular soldier in the British Army in the 80s and 90s, National Service having ended in Britain many years previously, but my French brother in law had quite an interesting story. He was a pretty fit and physical guy but was not that enthusiastic about serving his country, and turned down the invitations to join the paras or the signals. He seems to have spent a couple of months coaching his Colonel's daughters in tennis before he wangled an early discharge after a couple of months! I enjoyed my time as an infantry officer - not so sure I'd have enjoyed being a peacetime conscript, though. As a sailor, though, do not not regret having not gone to sea? (By the way, horrified to hear that you were addressed by your numbers, not something we ever did in the British Army (except, sort of, in the Welsh regiments).
In italian the word for sailor is marinaio ( mariner) the word is used to indicate both a military sailor or a civilian sailor aka merchant marine. In common usage the second meaning is more prevalent. So to refer to military sailors Italian will use phrases such "Sta prestando servizio in marina" ( he/she is serving in the Navy). Similar phrases are used to indicate people serving in other branches of the military an Italian Airman is referred to as soneone serving in the airforce ( presta servizio nell'aeronautica( nell'aeronautica)
I can relate. My mum keeps giving me food and in spite of this, I'm still tiny. My mum isn't even Italian, my father's parent's are. Funny story, when my mum serves dinner while I'm at home (I normally live in the city) she will ask me if it's enough. I will say 'yes, thank you.' Then she'll go 'humm...' and she'll add another scoopfull of whatever food she has cooked. 'There, *now* that's enough!' xD
Mandatory military service sounds extremly archaic to me, but both my grandfather and great grandfather were part of the military. Actually, my great grandfather was the grand marshal (the highest rank in military on my country), so my family has an story with that. A big portion of my family disagrees with me in this regard, but i just see it as savagery. I´m glad that you personally enjoyed it, but when it comes to me. I dont like the idea of people being forced to kill, nor the authoritarian way that the whole system works.
Leit Sabbath In most countries like those in the Balkans it is crucial that every man must know how to use a gun as we have big neighbours that want to get even bigger. So we are in constant peril. Mandatory military service is the most prudent choice.
Axel Tenveils From a political-economic perspective that may be true, but not for a humanist one. Also, one thing is military training, i´m not completly against that, but sending people to the battleground when they do not want to is horrible.
Thank you for your service (to Italy). My grandparents were from Napoli. They left before their war and my grandfather fought in the US Navy in the Pacific.
This is four years late, but my great grandfather served with the allies in world war 1 in Italy working in the Air forces. I am very happy to follow in his footsteps albeit under a different flag
1:20 That is an amazing photo. Standing there, looking cool, with your Walkman clipped to your belt, and a cat picture on the wall years before the cat picture on the Internet thing even really took off :D EDIT: Also, whoa, I thought you were much younger than that. I thought you were later 20s, maybe around 30. Those Mediterranean genes are amazing haha
Metatron you are killing it, huge improvements in the channel over the last year you have learned so much, keep these videos coming love what you come up with
Death it started in WW1 I believe, you have to be able to fit in a gas mask without a large beard or mustache, that and they want you to look neat and uniform
in the 1800s facial hair was almost a signifier of your unit. France especially required their elite grenadiers to have big mustaches, and other countries required their infantry to have mustaches at various times in history.
a lot of answers were correct like the gas mask but the side effect of less facial hair was ... less lice (both types) and a better hygiene. When I was in the army it was explained to us that when you go in the fight you want to have minimum of things that can get in the wounds or things that can be forced in the wounds. Also it was told us to eat very lightly in order to have as less problems as possible in case of a stomach or gut shot.
When you spend a couple of weeks in the forest doing physical stuff and only get to wash yourself once or twice it's good to have short hair and no facial hair.
Interestingly in Hungary when we had conscription, we got the choice to work at a civilian job if our conscience was against killing people. The absurd about it was that they checked first if we're fit for duty before evalutated if we would go to a civilian job or military duty. So, I asked for civilian job, got checked, and didn't get to work as a daycare or whatever they wanted me to do, because I wasn't fit for armed duty. What a waste of human resources that was.
Excellent. Very interesting. My Dad did National Service with the RAF in the UK, and kept to the 6am start discipline and enjoyed it all his life. I am not at all like that, but there we go.
Hey, just wondering, could you make a video about the change in equipment in the 4th century Roman army? cause i was wondering why they changed to the spatha and oval shield. thx
I really enjoyed your story about the military. I took my discharge after 9 years. I think food in the military is universally bad to give soldiers something to complain about. Oh, I was in the army.
Hahahaha... do you really think I'd be stupid to say in my country when some invades? XD I live at the german border so if they invade, I'd be dead before the Polish army notices that tanks are besieging Warsaw. If the Czikibriki (Russians) invade I'd be faster a citizen of Germany than you could sneeze. And if everything else fails and I have to stay in Poland... well I'm fucked. At least i know how to make a bomb.
I served in 2003 after graduating from university. (born 1980). I went for 9 months, but during service, lenght of service was shortened to 6 months. Otherwise it very similar to your service. First month was basic training (marching, lot of marching, shooting). After basic training we swore an oath and then we were transfered to different units. I was sent to air force base as guard. We were guarding ammunitions, fuel depots and aircraft obviously. As guards we carried live ammo during guard duties. Luckily I never had to use it. Lenght of guard duty was 24 hours in way 2 hours on guard, 2 hours on stand by and 2 hours rest, usually sleeping. I started in july and finished in december, so I know something about cold during guard duty :-) Fortunatelly obligatory military service was cancelled in 2006 in Slovakia.
In the navy Yes, you can sail the seven seas In the navy Yes, you can put your mind at ease In the navy Come on people, fall an' make a stand In the navy, in the navy Can't you see we need a hand In the navy Come on, protect the motherland In the navy Come on and join your fellow man In the navy Come on people and make a stand In the navy, in the navy, in the navy, oh :v Village People - In The Navy Lyrics
È interessante sapere che sei passato dalla mia città natale (Taranto)! Grazie per aver condiviso questa tua esperienza, chissà se ricordi qualcosa delle tue ore libere in città, anche se si tratta di un po' di anni fa.
Nevermind. Apparently there is no comment section without retards. The amount of pathetic ignorant pigs saying Italian armed forces suck and, not knowing they are 10th in the world is really rediculous.
I served mandatory army also for 9 mounts. I was the last generation who served mandatory service. Pretty much the same stuff as you have described. Oath,guarding,cleaning,marching... Except I was in Anti-Aircraft and Artillery division,so I got to play with AA guns and cannons (after basic infantry training). One time my unit got an assignment to clean the ice from the airfield... with shovels :/ The chill still goes throw my bones every time I remember that long airfield and that damn wind on -15C
@Dejan Markovinović If you served in Batajnica like me, than I know what you're talking about. I was a navigation radar crewman, but my duties included hunting birds near the airstrip. I still remember that winter wind. One time I caught a severe bronchitis and had a 41° C fever.
For some people mandatory conscription is a blessing. When i was forced into the military, I weighed 100kg, had no muscles, was anti-social and lacked motivation to do anything else than sit at my computer all day. After i finished my mandatory conscription of 1 year, I weighed 77kg, had muscles, was social, outgoing and had lots of motivation to start university studies. Would this had happened if I didn't have to go into the military for a year? Most certainly not. The conscription period here is 6, 9 or 12 months depending on your position.
I served in the US Marine Corps, as did my father who was born in Sicly, but my Grandfather was in the Italian Army in WW2. He was in the 8th army in southern Russia. he was an head of a gun crew when they fired their last round and the Russians broke thru the Romanian lines, boom Germans cut off in Stalingrad. That term you used msd or something? that sounds like mos, or military occupational specialty. Mine was 0331, which was infantry machine gunner. Mostly I remember mostly doing a lot of usy tasks, policing barracks, raking sand type stuff.
The guys from US would argue that you weren't a soldier but rather a sailor. Any chance you could make a video on the topic of usage of the word soldier??
Kharmazov yeah I'm American and the militarymen here get touchy when you call them soldiers, especially the marines. Soldiers are only army, which is nonsense in my opinion
and the guys from Europe would argue that sailors doesn't mean automatically a military guy and would ask what skills have the guys as sailors. More specifically in Europe if you are named a sailor it means just that you are working on a ship which could be civilian or military. Also the USMC would be considered Marine Infantry corp and they would still be considered ... soldiers. For US probably sailor made sense because that was the force projected in majority of the cases.
Brian Holdren generally the basic terms fade the further up the chain, but calling a Marine Captain a Marine is not really pejorative. Calling an Admiral a sailor though, is a no-no. Air Force can be complicated as high ranking pilots can still be chewed out by ground staff
It was an conscript force, now requirements are extremely high, in fact they are facing a sustained decline in young recruits, many cant sustain military life.
Just a few correction: (Forgive my english, but it is so long since I use it) -VFA was 12 months long and, after 3 months (after C.A.R.) you were promoted to Corporal rank (caporale). The better pay and benifits starts here.If I remember right, the pay of a common soldier in 2003, was around 500 euro/months ; the pay of a VFA was around 800 euro/months. -During VFA service you could sign for another extra year of service (slightly better pay, no rank change) -VFB was 36 months long, and during it you could sign up for an additional 24 months (3 times, up to 6 additional years) -Chosing VFA service you can in wich army division you will be deployed, standard army (fanteria), mountain division (alpini) , airborn troops (paracadutisti) , navy (marina) , tank crew (carristi) , airforce as ground troop (accademy needed to be a pilot) (aviazione) , police (civil and military police are the same army division: Carabinieri, where i was ), national park ranger (guardia forestale), firefighters (pompieri). Not so sure you can chose also marines troops (Lagunari). -12 mandatory months in Navy were until 1987, 18 months until 1976 and 24 months until 1975 (before you, and me that i'm an 1983, were born ) -Since 1972 Military service in Italy wasn't really mandatory. It was possible to choose not to serve in the army, doing 12 months of social service (servizio sociale, o Obbiezione di coscienza). Obviously you had to choose between these two options, army or social service, the alternative was a trial for desertion (o something like that, i forgot the correct crime) -10 months service, as common soldier, was quite useless. As you say it was, more or less, march-cleaning barracs-march-little phisical exercise.2-3 time at the shooting range(If you was lucky). Maybe a little bit fun in the navy, if you went on a ship for a few months. VFA/VFB service was more interesting and usefull. After CAR you had to work. I was in the police (carabinieri) and I did all the tasks of a normal agent. In the police station, on the road and collaborations with the US Army in their bases in Italy. oh... of course i was autorized to carry my personal weapon all day, even outside service. After that little correction, my congratulations for the channel an all the work you do. You're always a pleasure to listen to, even for an italian with a rusty english.
Had to military service as well. 2-3 months after my service I got a mail telling me my regiment had been closed and I was removed from the reserve lol. I was in the army in the north of Sweden, the main role was set up and maintain communications. Typical assignment was drive out somewhere on the cuntryside/forest. Put up a mast, point the antenna in the right directions, connect with the other units and set up the network. Then just maintain correct cyrpto keys until next relocation. It was actually quite luxurious as army roles goes. No tent, no officers most of the time. Just your heated cabin, your friends and enough electricity to use any smaller home appliances you wish to carry with you into field.
Probably he was either not fit enough (allergies will do that) or he is a Jehovas Witness or he was discharged for another reason like conscientious objector or he has two brothers in which case the third one doesn't need to go.
I was in the Navy myself, a Norwegian conscript back in '97-'98. We were really good. In Kiel, we beat the Italians 5-1, the Germans 3-1 and the French 5-1. Edit: They let you keep your uniforms if you finish?? The only way we got to keep our uniform was if we "lost" it, in which case we had to pay for it. I "lost" my work uniform (M-82, navy blue trousers, jacket and beret) as well as my NATO jumper. We got to keep our boots, though, for 150 NOK, which even at the time was a real bargain. Oh, and the food was absolutely terrific - we had good cooks.
Lithuania just revived recruitment. I`m not gonna be in the army now, but a lot of guys are forced to do this. I would hate it. Military sucks. Only motivated people should go there and become professionals.
So basically they're filling slots and not actually producing a benefit. Sounds like a waste of money and time. Sounds like it would be better to spend a week teaching them to shoot and then send them home.
NEY Industries What do you mean by "connscription in post-soviet countries is bad"? I'm from Estonia, which was once a soviet state, and from what I've heard, the conscription isn't that bad. If you're fit then it's easy for you. I havent served my time yet but soon I'll go there. So maybe it's just slavic thing that your military sucks (no offense though). And for the record, I have the letter that the military sends you, that you're pretty much in the army and will be mobilised in case of a conflic or crisis.
For the people asking why he referes to himself and his fellow conscripts as soldiers rather than sailors , as would be the case in the US or other English speaking navies:
The word soldier comes from the middle ages, referring to a man who is paid a wage to serve in the military (originally from Latin soldarius "one who is paid" iirc) a professional serviceman or mercenary. Any paid military serviceman is a soldier by the literal definition, which is the common definition used in several European languages, including Italian. This word has been used for centuries before the modern militaries, which currently make a distinction between an army soldier and other service professionals, ever existed.
It is a contrivance of military nomenclature that the word soldier has been given a more specific definition in English; meaning only a man who serves in the army and not any other part of the military. There are usually specific words for those roles too, but they can all be called soldiers without any inaccuracy because of how the language defines that word and its equivalents.
Thanks a lot for your comment. Very informative.
Informative, yet still grating for an English speaker to hear. Thus, one can say Metatron is not perfectly fluent in (that aspect of) English.
Please don't take that too seriously. :-) It is the smallest of technicalities.
What's the real difference, though?
Thanks. I did not know that it was different in some armies. In Switzerland the payment anybody in the military or even the civil protection gets is called "Sold" (in German). Probably very close related to the Latin roots of the "soldarius" you can find in the English "to sell", "salary" etc. So everybody getting a "Sold" is of course a "Soldat" in the first place because this means "somebody getting a Sold" (don't mix it with "getting sold" in English - even though it's not completely wrong ;-) So I am, officially, a Soldat in the civil protection, which is not part of the army but it's what you do if you aren't considered fit enough for the army and meant for help in case of things like natural desasters, helping care for refugees etc. I get CHF 5 a day as Sold when I have to go there. I am 40 but they still could call me now if there was anything catastrophic happening and I had to go immediately since I did not yet get officially released.
Oh Lawd Between a Marine and a Ranger? Or between Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen?
WTF!!! I thought you were 24 years old!
All hail Metatron the never aging!
They age like Saiyans.
The505Guys Most likely Anglo-Saxons
Claudio Di Domenico
Yeah, i was refering to Anglo-saxons descendents.
No, its the term to describe all people of anglo-saxon descent. British, American, Canadian, Australian. Over simplification in case of genetic but culturally wary usefull term, as all those nations share same language and basically same culture and valuses with minor differences.
MrMleczkp You are right in a way. However the term Anglo Saxon refers to the migration of Germanic tribes such as Saxons, Angles and Jutes from the Saxon coast and upwards (now northern Germany and Denmark) to Britain. I don't think people in Britain, Canada, America, Australia etc speak to each other in old Germanic languages. Yes there are similarities in the vocabulary of the English language we speak today and of course the genetic lineage of many British, Canadians, Americans, Australians etc can be traced back to the Angles/Jutes/Saxons but the English language today and the old Germanic languages are not the same. Especially considering how much the Romans influenced our language, it's quite a mix.
Metatron - the only youtuber whose upload schedule is so consistent I can barely keep up!
His officers must have been Prussians ;)
The morale is over 150%
His number military number is 892, while mine is fn-2199
X Infinity military guys bonding :D
Well, he learned his discipline.
I'll add you to the list of many many ex military men that I know who refuse to be clean shaven after their service, myself included.
I'm the same. 7 years in the Canadian armed forces. Armoured reconnaissance. I can't stand shaving now.
I go back and forth between full mountain man and a somewhat tamed down moustache and goatee. The funny part is i never really minded shaving while i was in the service. Weekly haircuts really irritated me though
After my two years service in the ground forced from 88 to 90 in the Italian army (I started as a volunteer and boy did I repent having done it for reasons that would need me to write a book to fully detail) and up to my.... I think it was forty-fifth birthday, when I started gaining grey hair, point in my life I decided it was enough, I've kept my hair actually even longer than him in this three years old video. Down to middle thighs actually. Longer than my sisters.
damn i shaved today
short hair, shaved Metatron = Playboy Metatron
sushanalone Its not an effective joke if you say it's a joke one comma after you say he looks like one. You gotta wait for a few people to be triggered atleast :D
I'm literally watching this from a tent on a Finnish military training camp.
Contraband doesn't exist in the Finnish military training?
blackopssavage As in my phone? We're allowed to use them when not in active service.
Spy confirmed.
Lord Mortigon Imagine if Simo Hayha had a cellphone. You Finns will always have my undying respect for what you did to the Russkies.
@@dobypilgrim6160 So...an entire country of people has your respect because of the actions of their soldiers over seventy five years ago? Against some other soldiers who are bad because of where they're from? Makes sense.
*Metatron sails his pizza with armed spicy pepperoni torpedoes to protect the Sicily port 1999 colourized*
NKAssassinBlader why does this not get more than 100 likes
Pepperoni is an American sausage, developed in New Your City by people of Italian heritage. It is not sold or even available in Italy. At least not about 20 years ago when I was in Italy. Asked for it on a pizza, they had no idea what I was talking about. This was in Naples, Pisa, Rome, several other cities.
1999 and you said fucking colourized
The colourized part of the meme usually should only be said when talking about WWII...
But funny comment though
Colourized? Wouldn't it be 'colorized'? If you're going to bastardise the English language, at least do it properly.
Tbh, it should be spelled 'colourised'.
RaCisT
Semper Fidelis from a US Marine fan of your channel! Had the chance to interact with a few Italian military servicemen while I was in Iraq in 2004. Definitely some great men, very squared away!
Maybe that is the reason my Ex stopped shaving. I always liked his moustache, but hated the beard. Thankfully he had to shave it for his jobs, He grew it again after our divorce and never shaved again .just trimmed until he died at 63 .5 years ago
I get you. Military service is still mandatory in Greece. I just finished mine five or six months ago.
Well, i think you benefit from every experience. Or at least most of them. You do learn things there. You learn about discipline, and you learn a few things about people, living together with 50 or 60 of them. And I knew some guys that hadn't moved a muscle in all their life, and the training made them fit enough to be able to run with full military equipment. Also, I always liked weapons and strategy games, so carrying a rifle and maneuvering while in formation was a bit fun for me :p
But overall, you learn skills, though most of them probably won't benefit you in your "real" life.
@Cptlogs13 because of turkey
@The505Guys as an ex conscript in Greece who served in Evros (border between turkey and bulgaria, lots of weird things happen there) I can tell you that if you somewhat have your shit together then there's absolutely no benefit in serving. It's only a waste of 9 months of your life (now 12). Keep in mind tho that the Greek army is an absolute joke at the same time though...
@@johnbrdov9925 12 months isn’t too bad lol, in Israel it’s mandatory for every man and women with almost 3 years for men, and 2 years for women.
Gotta love that equality
Did you capture any pesky Greek or Carthaginian?
Constantine Joseph they sent him to Gaul
@@Nathan-yk5km Makes sense... A small village up north is causing trouble. Something about a magic potion...
So, an analysis of the pre-intro: There's a sicilian mid 15th-century pikeman leading at least a bunch of archers against a castle they are besieging and attacking, while machine-gun fire and canons can be heard in the background, aiming for the pikemen and his archers, which turn out to be native americans, because of their expotic screams while charging to knock the enemy out with their bows. That's obviously historically accurate.
At least it's more accurate then Braveheart.
Hes too skinny to pull the bow or throw the lance
Obviously.
Alternate war cry: "THEY'RE PUTTING PINEAPPLE ON THE PIZZA!!!"
Mmmmmmmmmmmm pineapple pizza
that is not the proper American War cry, proper one is "these people need to be liberated" or "they have oil"
Damn. I would be on the frontline with such an anger.
lmfao
It doesn't taste that bad!!
I'm a 19 year old Private in the U.S. Army Infantry. I love being a Soldier and I find it funny listening to how similar some of the duties are between what you used to do and what I do now.
I've been subscribed to you for a while and not so long ago I was in high school watching your videos when I should have been doing my work. You're honestly one of my favorite channels and are part of the reason I made it through the boredom of school. Keep making entertaining quality videos. For what it's worth, much thanks and support from an average U.S. Infantryman.
Singing,sewing,drill and shaving almost everyday...
The Italian navy sounds hardcore.
Every good army does this, the Italians are not the only ones.
Damn the Finnish military doesn't sing daily... It's something we need to start asap before it comes to blows.
in the Naja (italian term for the year of conscription) if you ended up on the Alpini (elite mountain warfare military corps) it may be a very shitty year hahahah my father in one year build up three bridges, put security nets on the muontains, works with dinamites in very high mountain and very low temperatures! in the end they were only city kids that want only to be at home, the were not prepared for real war, it was just a year of discipline and formation.
MY uncle spent 1 year cuttign the grass in the base, the other one beeing the organizer of a warehouse in a airfield.
99% of the enlisted draftee will spend 1 year doing tedious pointless routine manteinance work.
Why? ebcause ina country of 60 millions you don't really need millions of new soldiers each years, so what are you gonan dow ith those 900.000 18 years old draftee that are there in your bases each year?
We stopped doing the draft because its a pointless waste of monay. Better have a smaller professional army than a huge mass of untrained leeches.
+neems hunter I like your comment, and profile picture. Good day!
*hears gunshots and explosions
*has a SPEAR in his hand
METATRON WHY DID YOU DO THIS TO ME?
Lmao
Fucking thOooooOt
The battle sounds in the intro include artillery and gunfire, so I like to imagine Metatron is just the only one there clad out in medieval gear and he's somehow kicking ass.
I thought it was interesting that when I was conscripted into the Army here in Norway, we didn't spend weeks or months parading and cleaning our barracks - no we went straight into the forest the day after we arrived.
We started out the first week doing patrols, living in tents in the woods, and doing other infantry stuff. The second week was spent at remote mountain gunnery range. It wasn't particularly intense stuff, we didn't carry our full combat loads or go very fast, but we did spend much of the day on the move - and we did get "attacked" at night and did night patrols etc.
Only after a couple of weeks doing those things, we started doing the formation marching stuff and cleaning our barracks once or twice each day. After our first visit home, we started learning our specialities.
It took me a year just to get to my Battalion and start advanced training. 1 year conscription seems like a pointless waste of money.
He was conscripted in the Navy, not Ground Forces.
Whoaaaa... That's awesome... I would like to know more good sir...
I did some training in Norway while in the US Marines in the late 90s. Not sure of the name of the base but it was about 2 hours northeast of Tromso. Great experience and I loved training with the Norwegians. One night during training I was on watch and the most beautiful Aurora Borealis took place. What an amazing sight!!
Given the few number of impeccably dressed Roman gods amongst men called Italian soldiers that I have met, it makes sense now that Metatron, impeccably dressed handsome Italian that he is, was once a soldier. Regardless of what you think of the Italian military, we were always a bit jealous of how sharp they looked. Thank you for your service, sir.
- an American veteran
Ahhh Rafaelllo, My fellow conscript! I also did my time 5 years ago in the Finnish army! But I sure hope war never breaks out, that would be horrifying........
Only thing I also miss from army is the uniform I loved how all the girls just went insane when they saw me and my friends with the uniforms on at the bar on friday when we got out for weekend ;DD
I enlisted in the Canadian Forces when I was 17.5. Being a dual citizen in Italy and Canada, I received quite the odd letter about mandatory service while I was in basic military qualification in Montreal. Spent 5 years as a paratrooper and air assault heavy infantry soldier, serving mostly as a demolitions expert in northern Afghanistan during some pretty heavy combat actions. Then I spent 3 years in the special forces regiment as a heavy weapons Sergeant (basically a marine corps Gunnery Sergeant) in the nuclear, biological and chemical warfare mechanised company. Got to train with the Rangers, the Royal Marines and just a bunch of other military units. Almost miss the life, especial drinking makers mark and Canadian club whiskies in Foulkes barracks. And an aside our battalion (3rd royal Canadian regiment), being of the maroon beret tradition almost never had to shave regularly.
My life is a pretty good fish-out-of-water comedy. Serving in the infantry reserves air assault rappel company has been an interesting experience for me and some of the guys with similar experience, proper troopaloopas some of them.
Devilin Funstin Fraternity of paratroopers lasts for life. Brother.
...And then the alarm clock rang off...
I am retired USAF, so I commend your service, even the short nature of it. I must comment on one item you brought up, you are the same age as my son. Have a great day.
I appriciete your honesty, Military service changes a men. I have nothin but respect to whom served as well.
Yes you are correct its not. Usually its up to induvidual and his actions(company he is in,etc). But in my opinion that kind of decipline is important to produce an adult.
I ain't joining no fucking army for shit, LOL.
Oh Lawd Now did you really have to say that, or LIKE that?
whom'st'd'll
Young Metatron looks like a naughty boy !
He looks drunk
Mi hai fatto tornare in mente il mio di servizio militare, tra gli Alpini, iniziato a fine '98.
Anche io sono contento di averlo fatto tutto sommato, esperienze che difficilmente potrei ripetere altrove.
As one veteran to another, "Thank you for your service!"
What does that even mean when one never defended their country?
@@bobsvilla4168 the willingness to defend is what counts.
Alright paisan, you're going into the navy.
But I can't swim, and I get violently seasick!
Well then, blame your parents for not having sex 2 months earlier.
lol you have barely aged, must be something in the wine.
In the water as Lockhart would say
I was born in 1978 in Portugal and like you, I was made to join. I joined 21 years ago and I feel very proud of this. It was a great experience and it made me humble and honorable. I was a Guard of Honor of the 2nd Commander of the Northern Military region of Portugal and was on 4 tv channels and I never felt so proud. Thank you for making me remember this. Semper Fi.
My uncle was drafted into the Soviet Army to fight the Mujahideen in Afghanistan and got wounded there, which was more of a blessing really, getting out of that hell.
Pretty interesting to hear a modern counter-perspective.
Did the injury leave him crippled?
In the US if you are wounded enough to get sent home that's a Million Dollar Wound. Or was anyway. Given inflation it's more like a Billion.
Wonder what your uncle is thinking now that the u.s pulled out
My great Uncle was in the Carabinieri. He (and the rest of my family :) ) are from Friuli and the mountains there. :)
"wake up at 6.30..." "after 4.30 pm you are free..." man. i wish my service had been that chill. getting up at 0500 was no rarity, and though we sometimes had one or two hours of break and "big leave" (meaning you get to go to the nearest city for about 3 hours) once a week, whenever we had nothing to do and weren't on break (break is planned once a week for each platoon in the "day's orders" which is basically a timetable) some officer would come running and give us something to do, even if it was something that had already been done multiple times, if only to keep up appearances of us not beeing lazy. accordingly, we got very good at evading officers if we were done with all our stuff. still couldn't leave the base though.
My brother is a 2nd Lieutenant in the Swedish Navy. He became an officer last summer :)
6:35 "When it's winter it gets cold" Metatron 2017 ;P That should be the motto of house Metatron :D
In many parts of the world its not true. Where i live, people think it gets cold in the winter, but cold for them means you'll probably want to wear something over your t-shirt when going outside for a considerable amount of time.
Holy shit I read your post *exactly* when he said that. To the microsecond.
Good to hear you served, love your videos
TLDR; got conscripted at 18, went to training, did watch and drill, got sick, went to hospital, got released from service.
You have one of the cleanest accents I've ever heard.
Interesting tale. Glad that conscription is currently suspended where I live. Honestly I cannot stand it when people try to drill things into my head of how I should feel or be or act, I tend to go straight against it when people force such things onto me. I truly wonder what they would have done with stubborn me. It is not like I dislike the militairy, I see it as something we sadly very much need and I respect those who can and do serve. However in my case I would end up arguing all the time with my superiors, making me rather unfit for the whole deal and than to consider I was once thinking very much about joining the navy :P
O yeah and 1 more reason navy would not have been fun, with my height I would have to watch my head all the damn time :)
Me too buddy, me too.
Isn't it strange that those of us who have done even some obligatory military service, remember it fondly despite it being mostly difficult and unpleasant. I spent 9 months in the Greek Engineer's Corps and even though it was mostly training and cleaning the barracks, I would give it another go for a month or so.....
I am Greek, here mlitary service is still mandatory, for me it's postponed because I'm studying in university, but I don't really mind, I think it's going to be a life experience
Con questo video ho scoperto che sei italiano! mi fa molto piacere che un mio connazionale possa essere così seguito su UA-cam parlando di argomenti come la storia e la tecnica militare e le arti marziali ecc ecc... Grande stima e complimenti per il canale
to everyone saying that Italian military is weak: use Wikipedia, or anything, read the numbers, compare those numbers with France (or Germany, just for example) and you will see its not weak at all. well in some regards (as for number of soldiers or especially naval fleet) is even better. And as for being war tested, Italian army has been in all major conflicts where nato forces where used, from Somalia wars to Afghanistan to Libia to Iraq, et cetera.
As for ww2, Italian army was not so bad as allied propaganda depicted it. It was surely not the best but not so bad too. Remember, France was conquered in DAYS, Italy fought against Russians, French English Americans and survived for years. Winning many battles, yes exactly, and many alone against Russians or English, have a look. Until 1943 Italian campaign in africa was quite Victorious and English had their worries.
Just weak minded officers... Cadorna on the Isanzo...
the Creative Assembly machinimas I agree . To belittle the Italians deminishes the bravery of Allied troops who fought them . I rather think they did not support fascism . Their bullets would be as scary as anyone elses . I work with Italian guys . Excellent people . Cultured and honest individuals . Very family oriented . Their ww2 fighters and naval assets were excellent .
Cadorna was an officer in charge during ww 1 not 2, when he was discharged and Armando Diaz took is place the situation changed quickly
My goodness. It sounds like 10 months in summer camp. We don't have conscription in the USA, (everyone is a volunteer,) but our 'boot camp' (Basic Training) is no picnic.
Raffaello (hope I've got that right) I'm catching up on your "back catalogue" having been aware of your videos for some time (via Lindybeige and Scolagladiatoria, mainly). I was a regular soldier in the British Army in the 80s and 90s, National Service having ended in Britain many years previously, but my French brother in law had quite an interesting story. He was a pretty fit and physical guy but was not that enthusiastic about serving his country, and turned down the invitations to join the paras or the signals. He seems to have spent a couple of months coaching his Colonel's daughters in tennis before he wangled an early discharge after a couple of months! I enjoyed my time as an infantry officer - not so sure I'd have enjoyed being a peacetime conscript, though. As a sailor, though, do not not regret having not gone to sea? (By the way, horrified to hear that you were addressed by your numbers, not something we ever did in the British Army (except, sort of, in the Welsh regiments).
In italian the word for sailor is marinaio ( mariner) the word is used to indicate both a military sailor or a civilian sailor aka merchant marine. In common usage the second meaning is more prevalent. So to refer to military sailors Italian will use phrases such "Sta prestando servizio in marina" ( he/she is serving in the Navy). Similar phrases are used to indicate people serving in other branches of the military an Italian Airman is referred to as soneone serving in the airforce ( presta servizio nell'aeronautica( nell'aeronautica)
Surprising an italian mother would allow a skinny son !!
Stephen Mortimer In Italy most of us are skinny *despite* our mothers ahahahahahah
I can relate. My mum keeps giving me food and in spite of this, I'm still tiny. My mum isn't even Italian, my father's parent's are.
Funny story, when my mum serves dinner while I'm at home (I normally live in the city) she will ask me if it's enough. I will say 'yes, thank you.' Then she'll go 'humm...' and she'll add another scoopfull of whatever food she has cooked. 'There, *now* that's enough!' xD
+Joe Pelidelculo I am Austrian, no difference. xD
+Vashoth Ari Adaar I will admit to having never heard the stereotype of black people and watermelon.
Probably just as well, really
Yeah, it's Fried Chicken and Waffles! Mmm... Soul Food...
Mandatory military service sounds extremly archaic to me, but both my grandfather and great grandfather were part of the military. Actually, my great grandfather was the grand marshal (the highest rank in military on my country), so my family has an story with that.
A big portion of my family disagrees with me in this regard, but i just see it as savagery. I´m glad that you personally enjoyed it, but when it comes to me. I dont like the idea of people being forced to kill, nor the authoritarian way that the whole system works.
Leit Sabbath What country are you from.
Rance Rossetto
Uruguay
Leit Sabbath I'm Australian.
Leit Sabbath In most countries like those in the Balkans it is crucial that every man must know how to use a gun as we have big neighbours that want to get even bigger. So we are in constant peril. Mandatory military service is the most prudent choice.
Axel Tenveils
From a political-economic perspective that may be true, but not for a humanist one.
Also, one thing is military training, i´m not completly against that, but sending people to the battleground when they do not want to is horrible.
The metatron is freaking 38 O.o he literally looks 24/26 at most!
I don't regret a single day in my one year of conscription. Good and bad times but well worth it.
- 2nd Lt. in reserve. FDF
same.
Thank you for your service (to Italy). My grandparents were from Napoli. They left before their war and my grandfather fought in the US Navy in the Pacific.
I went once to the church so i consider myself a former pontifex
Can't tell if bagging romans or catholics...
This is four years late, but my great grandfather served with the allies in world war 1 in Italy working in the Air forces. I am very happy to follow in his footsteps albeit under a different flag
If I wasn’t intimidated by Metatron before, I definitely am now.
1:20 That is an amazing photo. Standing there, looking cool, with your Walkman clipped to your belt, and a cat picture on the wall years before the cat picture on the Internet thing even really took off :D
EDIT: Also, whoa, I thought you were much younger than that. I thought you were later 20s, maybe around 30. Those Mediterranean genes are amazing haha
you are an ex military? well, then salutations from the Fireman's Military School from Ceara, Brazil :D
Metatron you are killing it, huge improvements in the channel over the last year you have learned so much, keep these videos coming love what you come up with
Why is all militaries so obsessed with facial hair?
Death it started in WW1 I believe, you have to be able to fit in a gas mask without a large beard or mustache, that and they want you to look neat and uniform
in the 1800s facial hair was almost a signifier of your unit. France especially required their elite grenadiers to have big mustaches, and other countries required their infantry to have mustaches at various times in history.
a lot of answers were correct like the gas mask but the side effect of less facial hair was ... less lice (both types) and a better hygiene.
When I was in the army it was explained to us that when you go in the fight you want to have minimum of things that can get in the wounds or things that can be forced in the wounds.
Also it was told us to eat very lightly in order to have as less problems as possible in case of a stomach or gut shot.
Geanos Uron professionalism, uniformity, tradition, and discipline
When you spend a couple of weeks in the forest doing physical stuff and only get to wash yourself once or twice it's good to have short hair and no facial hair.
È divertente pensare che sto guardando questo video dal cell mentre sto nel mio dormitorio, durante la mia leva militare obbligatoria in Corea del Sud
Interestingly in Hungary when we had conscription, we got the choice to work at a civilian job if our conscience was against killing people. The absurd about it was that they checked first if we're fit for duty before evalutated if we would go to a civilian job or military duty. So, I asked for civilian job, got checked, and didn't get to work as a daycare or whatever they wanted me to do, because I wasn't fit for armed duty. What a waste of human resources that was.
Excellent. Very interesting. My Dad did National Service with the RAF in the UK, and kept to the 6am start discipline and enjoyed it all his life. I am not at all like that, but there we go.
I have to say, Italian military has the best looking uniforms. Subjective, of course, but certainly my favorite.
Especially the Carabinieri
Yeah they're pretty neat.Italians are fashionable folk...
Former military (US Army) 5 years as active duty, 9 years in the US Army Reserve. Iraq war vet. Love your channel. Greetings from Puerto Rico.
in my country, military service is mandatory for all male citizens of age 19 to 20. They call it 'national service'. I'm currently 17.
China? 50 cents army?
@@ohlawd3699 No, Singaporean
Conscripts version of the military often ammuses me. I was a regular infantryman in Canada, and my experience to yours is like night and day.
Hey, just wondering, could you make a video about the change in equipment in the 4th century Roman army? cause i was wondering why they changed to the spatha and oval shield. thx
I really enjoyed your story about the military. I took my discharge after 9 years. I think food in the military is universally bad to give soldiers something to complain about. Oh, I was in the army.
Thank god I have a shitty heart so they can't force me serve even during war :D
and then the enemies are at the gates and the only ones left are the ones with shitty hearts and down syndrome :P
Hahahaha... do you really think I'd be stupid to say in my country when some invades?
XD
I live at the german border so if they invade, I'd be dead before the Polish army notices that tanks are besieging Warsaw.
If the Czikibriki (Russians) invade I'd be faster a citizen of Germany than you could sneeze.
And if everything else fails and I have to stay in Poland... well I'm fucked. At least i know how to make a bomb.
The German army isn't what it used to be, so I think Poland wouldn't have to worry too much in a hypothetical war with them.
A shitty heart?
That's not really something to be thankful for...
I know, but eh... I need to at least try to find some positives.
It's funny how the older you get the more you appreciate the lessons you receive, even when you hated learning them in the moment
Wow, I didn't know Raffaelo was so old.
He's 39, he's not old.
...
But you can't just call him "man".
I served in 2003 after graduating from university. (born 1980). I went for 9 months, but during service, lenght of service was shortened to 6 months. Otherwise it very similar to your service. First month was basic training (marching, lot of marching, shooting). After basic training we swore an oath and then we were transfered to different units. I was sent to air force base as guard. We were guarding ammunitions, fuel depots and aircraft obviously. As guards we carried live ammo during guard duties. Luckily I never had to use it. Lenght of guard duty was 24 hours in way 2 hours on guard, 2 hours on stand by and 2 hours rest, usually sleeping. I started in july and finished in december, so I know something about cold during guard duty :-) Fortunatelly obligatory military service was cancelled in 2006 in Slovakia.
I should be training for finals but this is more interesting.
Of course there is a word for sailor in Italian ,it's marinaio and he even mentions it when talking about his rank
In the navy
Yes, you can sail the seven seas
In the navy
Yes, you can put your mind at ease
In the navy
Come on people, fall an' make a stand
In the navy, in the navy
Can't you see we need a hand
In the navy
Come on, protect the motherland
In the navy
Come on and join your fellow man
In the navy
Come on people and make a stand
In the navy, in the navy, in the navy, oh :v
Village People - In The Navy Lyrics
Greetings Metatron. I am also born in 1982 and was conscripted in the Navy. I live in the other side of the sea, Greece.
3:07 jesus metatron keep your fingers off the trigger you might shoot someones eye out.
It was not loaded ;)
I know but safety reasons, love your vids btw.
"The food was disgusting!!" --- You mean NO pasta, no pizza, no tiramisu ?????
did you ever do Testudo formation?
È interessante sapere che sei passato dalla mia città natale (Taranto)! Grazie per aver condiviso questa tua esperienza, chissà se ricordi qualcosa delle tue ore libere in città, anche se si tratta di un po' di anni fa.
Shitty comments about Italian armed forces are coming...
nah cuz metatron fans at least aren't idiots
Nevermind. Apparently there is no comment section without retards. The amount of pathetic ignorant pigs saying Italian armed forces suck and, not knowing they are 10th in the world is really rediculous.
il Barone Rozzo . pisano. the only heros in the Italian navy were the sandwiches. I made it up.
We have lost the war because of the italians :)
Do you mean WWII?
I served mandatory army also for 9 mounts. I was the last generation who served mandatory service. Pretty much the same stuff as you have described. Oath,guarding,cleaning,marching... Except I was in Anti-Aircraft and Artillery division,so I got to play with AA guns and cannons (after basic infantry training). One time my unit got an assignment to clean the ice from the airfield... with shovels :/ The chill still goes throw my bones every time I remember that long airfield and that damn wind on -15C
@Dejan Markovinović If you served in Batajnica like me, than I know what you're talking about. I was a navigation radar crewman, but my duties included hunting birds near the airstrip. I still remember that winter wind. One time I caught a severe bronchitis and had a 41° C fever.
For some people mandatory conscription is a blessing. When i was forced into the military, I weighed 100kg, had no muscles, was anti-social and lacked motivation to do anything else than sit at my computer all day. After i finished my mandatory conscription of 1 year, I weighed 77kg, had muscles, was social, outgoing and had lots of motivation to start university studies.
Would this had happened if I didn't have to go into the military for a year? Most certainly not. The conscription period here is 6, 9 or 12 months depending on your position.
I served in the US Marine Corps, as did my father who was born in Sicly, but my Grandfather was in the Italian Army in WW2. He was in the 8th army in southern Russia. he was an head of a gun crew when they fired their last round and the Russians broke thru the Romanian lines, boom Germans cut off in Stalingrad. That term you used msd or something? that sounds like mos, or military occupational specialty. Mine was 0331, which was infantry machine gunner. Mostly I remember mostly doing a lot of usy tasks, policing barracks, raking sand type stuff.
The guys from US would argue that you weren't a soldier but rather a sailor. Any chance you could make a video on the topic of usage of the word soldier??
Kharmazov yeah I'm American and the militarymen here get touchy when you call them soldiers, especially the marines. Soldiers are only army, which is nonsense in my opinion
Nah, it's real easy actually, everyone is a soldier, it means you take pay for arms. All the different is now is there are more specializations.
and the guys from Europe would argue that sailors doesn't mean automatically a military guy and would ask what skills have the guys as sailors.
More specifically in Europe if you are named a sailor it means just that you are working on a ship which could be civilian or military.
Also the USMC would be considered Marine Infantry corp and they would still be considered ... soldiers.
For US probably sailor made sense because that was the force projected in majority of the cases.
Brian Holdren generally the basic terms fade the further up the chain, but calling a Marine Captain a Marine is not really pejorative. Calling an Admiral a sailor though, is a no-no. Air Force can be complicated as high ranking pilots can still be chewed out by ground staff
He was both
It was same like this in Yugoslavia and Serbia later, that it was mandatory and it was segmented by months of birth. Nice video!
Get up at 0630? Lol when I was in boot we had been up for hours already.... the Italian Navy seems pretty easy.
Odysseus Smith Conscription. Now things are harder
It was an conscript force, now requirements are extremely high, in fact they are facing a sustained decline in young recruits, many cant sustain military life.
He was born in 1982, so when I'm writing this he is 41 years old.
what the fuck, I thought you'd be a few years older than me but you're actually 35?
I feel cheated
1988-1991... Vaq-133 the wizards..... You have come a long way sailor!!!
You didn't mention if you got to shoot any guns or not. :/
Just a few correction: (Forgive my english, but it is so long since I use it)
-VFA was 12 months long and, after 3 months (after C.A.R.) you were promoted to Corporal rank (caporale). The better pay and benifits starts here.If I remember right, the pay of a common soldier in 2003, was around 500 euro/months ; the pay of a VFA was around 800 euro/months.
-During VFA service you could sign for another extra year of service (slightly better pay, no rank change)
-VFB was 36 months long, and during it you could sign up for an additional 24 months (3 times, up to 6 additional years)
-Chosing VFA service you can in wich army division you will be deployed, standard army (fanteria), mountain division (alpini) , airborn troops (paracadutisti) , navy (marina) , tank crew (carristi) , airforce as ground troop (accademy needed to be a pilot) (aviazione) , police (civil and military police are the same army division: Carabinieri, where i was ), national park ranger (guardia forestale), firefighters (pompieri). Not so sure you can chose also marines troops (Lagunari).
-12 mandatory months in Navy were until 1987, 18 months until 1976 and 24 months until 1975 (before you, and me that i'm an 1983, were born )
-Since 1972 Military service in Italy wasn't really mandatory. It was possible to choose not to serve in the army, doing 12 months of social service (servizio sociale, o Obbiezione di coscienza). Obviously you had to choose between these two options, army or social service, the alternative was a trial for desertion (o something like that, i forgot the correct crime)
-10 months service, as common soldier, was quite useless. As you say it was, more or less, march-cleaning barracs-march-little phisical exercise.2-3 time at the shooting range(If you was lucky). Maybe a little bit fun in the navy, if you went on a ship for a few months. VFA/VFB service was more interesting and usefull. After CAR you had to work. I was in the police (carabinieri) and I did all the tasks of a normal agent. In the police station, on the road and collaborations with the US Army in their bases in Italy. oh... of course i was autorized to carry my personal weapon all day, even outside service.
After that little correction, my congratulations for the channel an all the work you do. You're always a pleasure to listen to, even for an italian with a rusty english.
17 years ago?, Metatron, Exactly how old are you o_O?!
I estimated 40ish
he looks way younger though
A Russian soldier Invading Ukraine born in 1982, so he's 35...
He was born in 1982, so he turns 35 this year.
look how young his mother looked !!
if he hasn't already
Had to military service as well. 2-3 months after my service I got a mail telling me my regiment had been closed and I was removed from the reserve lol. I was in the army in the north of Sweden, the main role was set up and maintain communications. Typical assignment was drive out somewhere on the cuntryside/forest. Put up a mast, point the antenna in the right directions, connect with the other units and set up the network. Then just maintain correct cyrpto keys until next relocation. It was actually quite luxurious as army roles goes. No tent, no officers most of the time. Just your heated cabin, your friends and enough electricity to use any smaller home appliances you wish to carry with you into field.
what you did in russian is called "откосить" (trying to skip military service on any stage)
:)
Oh and standing in front of the Barracks and such, are referred to as fire watch in USMC and duty is usually what it's called in most units also
Italian army is so cute :D
cheers from Israel
3 years active duty and reserve service until this day..
Elad Belleli respect from the Royal Navy :P
ab cd How many nukes does Italy have? Israel ain't telling. Now who's cute?
Watching this in 2021, Prior Service myself. They need to do this in the US as well.
I don't get it, my husband was born in Puglia in 1981 and military service was not obligatory for him. Why, Metatron?
Probably he was either not fit enough (allergies will do that) or he is a Jehovas Witness or he was discharged for another reason like conscientious objector or he has two brothers in which case the third one doesn't need to go.
Ok will ask him. I know he considered it, but in the end he had the choice not to go. Will let you know. Nah, he's definitely very Catholic ☺
Thanks by the way 👍
I'm from 1983 and I underwent the military visit twice in a row, just rejected because of my knees.
I think it was compulsory up to '85.
Took an arrow to the knee during your time as an adventurer? ;)
Soldier: "General Mario! The Princess has been captured!"
Metatron: "Very well, soldier."
a black shirt i knew it
I was in the Navy myself, a Norwegian conscript back in '97-'98. We were really good. In Kiel, we beat the Italians 5-1, the Germans 3-1 and the French 5-1.
Edit: They let you keep your uniforms if you finish?? The only way we got to keep our uniform was if we "lost" it, in which case we had to pay for it. I "lost" my work uniform (M-82, navy blue trousers, jacket and beret) as well as my NATO jumper. We got to keep our boots, though, for 150 NOK, which even at the time was a real bargain.
Oh, and the food was absolutely terrific - we had good cooks.
Lithuania just revived recruitment. I`m not gonna be in the army now, but a lot of guys are forced to do this. I would hate it. Military sucks. Only motivated people should go there and become professionals.
YES, exactly.
Russia is slowly replacing conscripts with professional soldiers. It is hard to replace cheap labour though.
you can hand a hundred peasants rifle try to teach them to shoot. A professional soldier will take the rifle from you and learn how to shoot.
So basically they're filling slots and not actually producing a benefit. Sounds like a waste of money and time. Sounds like it would be better to spend a week teaching them to shoot and then send them home.
NEY Industries What do you mean by "connscription in post-soviet countries is bad"? I'm from Estonia, which was once a soviet state, and from what I've heard, the conscription isn't that bad. If you're fit then it's easy for you. I havent served my time yet but soon I'll go there. So maybe it's just slavic thing that your military sucks (no offense though). And for the record, I have the letter that the military sends you, that you're pretty much in the army and will be mobilised in case of a conflic or crisis.