xKISS KISSx whenever I’m not 100% sure I’ll always throw in a “could be talking out of my ass but” or “if I’m remembering correctly”. Can always check your source later
He doesn't mention a kind of important part. These cultures that depicted dragons had no knowledge of many other people. LIke, the Chinese did not introduce the idea of dragons to the Aztecs, all cultures seemed to some how have come up with the same "animal" on their own. And it's prevalant in A LOT of cultures.
they absolutely have never existed. we have fossil records... also, if they had lived at the same time as humans... we would know. come on people... stop being children.
1841 is when the word "dinosaur" was invented to describe all the fossils discovered. Prior to 1841, they were always called "dragons" worldwide. Dragons were mentioned by Marco Polo (late 1200s AD), Herodotus (400s BC), and book of Job (Job 40:15-24) as the "Behemoth" and (Job 41:1-11) as the "Leviathan" as dwelling with humans. Polo claims China emperor had a "dragon" pulling his chariots. Herodotus refers to flying dragons with 'bat-like' wings who lives in caves of India and 'pestered the elephants'.
@@clublouie Glad I'm not only one who heard about this. Scientist Sir Richard Owen is guy who invented the word "dinosaur" in 1841. The word "dragon" was in English dictionary up to mid 1940's, described as, "now rare" (vs. 'myth creature'). I'm pushing 50, college graduate, yet just recently learned how history is full of mentions of 'dragons'. Even Alexander the Great mentioned dragons in caves (India) that frightened his troops. Recent discovery of intact mammoths and soft tissue of dinos kinda adds insult to the 'millions of yrs ago' version of story.
It's like the word unicorn that was used to describe a one horned rhino in the 19th century it is found in the dictionary of that era. There was also bicornus or something I believe for 2 horned rhino. There are also old drawings of dinosaurs found in Peru which are the exact same as we believe them to have looked
There is actually a species of beetle that exists right now and it can in fact start fires with the chemicals in its digestive system. it also flies. Is it so outlandish that if a beetle exits that breathes a form of fire starting fluid and flies, that there could in fact be dragons in ancient times? i mean the evidence that such a creature can exist is right here before our eye's. not to mention all the millions of artworks from ancient times that we see of people with dragons/dinosaur's. Such art is a mere google search away and its artwork from every region of the planet earth from the ancient world.
@@jotunnomachy2480 The difference with those is that they lived in the sea or in humid places (like swamps), so when they died their remains would be imprinted in the soil, lime or wherever their carcass deposited. That's how you get fossils for soft bodied invertebrates
The core about the dragon myth is true. Watch the Komodowaran 10 feet and 200lbs (who has the most toxic mouth of all lizards) and imagine there bigger ancestors 30 00 years ago with 900lbs and 20 feet long, that was a dragon without wings.
I like to believe dragons may have existed but not in the way we think. It's possible that lizards during ancient times were more massive than crocodiles and komodos. I bet some didn't even fly and some were smaller but with long bodies and hollow bones which helped them glide across the sky giving the illusion that they were flying. It's also possible that these dragons may have been already close to extinction by the time civilizations started writing stories about them.
Why would any of these be truly extinct when the Mokelle M'Kembie (Brontosaurus) is so prevalent to South American Amazon tribes that they see them on an every-other-year basis, get sick, and die when they eat them; my literal SRGT. Slaughter USMC Nam-Vet father said he had seen dinosaurs in the jungle but as a Christian Bible thumper rationalized that therefore, the planet was only several thousand years old not Millions like science says; he was VERY out-dated and narrow-minded Bipolar son of a bitch fool, lord rest his soul.
Just after the turn of the century, at the beginning of the 1900s, a genealogy survey was being conducted in Wales. In one region, all of the oldest residents, related stories of the dragons which were native to the area, when they were all still young children. They described them as being covered in reflective scales, which gave them a shimmering jeweled appearance, of shifting, refracted, colors. Approximately eight, to ten, feet long (including the tail), with a six, or eight, foot wingspan. They said that they mostly just glided, from tree to tree, as they flew. They did not spit any fire, or venom. Basically harmless to humans, they equated them to being a damn nuisance predator, like a fox. Routinely killing chickens, and attacking new lambs. The local people there didn't recognize them as being anything extraordinary. They viewed them as a threat to property, which needed to be eliminated. The story goes, that they were basically hunted into extinction by the local farmers. They were easy to kill, and apparently couldn't replenish their population faster than they were being exterminated. I've often wondered if this story was true, and if so... how very sad.
There are 4 foot long gliding snakes so if that was true it was either they saying that one of these gliding snakes were larger than they really are or it’s a undiscovered snake but unlikely. Assuming your telling the truth.
That is one of the most annoying facts about so called mythical creatures. Some of them were real. Humans were annoyed or frightened. Humans killed them. Then got the nerve to say that the creatures never even existed.
Paulafan5 not rlly. I mean yes but no. It’s a fantasy show. She’s not takin dudes out 10x her size w her bare hands. Ever hear of David n Goliath? Tiny dude killed a giant dude w a rock.
That's an academic thing. I know 10 hours worth of explaining for many topics that I would preface by saying I don't really know anything about it. He means in comparison to those who REALLY know about the topic
@eddiewinehosen I disagree because people like to show off and if they have something amazing like a dragon's fossil, then.. well, as I said, they would show it off not keep it a secret as if it's illegal. The Vatican has nothing to lose by showing the existence of said creatures.
Robert Johnson The word Dinosaur didn’t exist till 1841 invented by Sir Richard Owen. Before that humans had been calling them Dragons, Leviathins and Behemoths ua-cam.com/video/R6GiNQvugn0/v-deo.html. ua-cam.com/video/s-_hZE0e4q4/v-deo.html. Watch my playlists
Eagles are like 10 lbs and can pull goats off cliffs. I can't imagine those goats are less than 40lbs if not twice that much. So a 35lb eagle would be terrifying!
An eagle that just ate 2 lbs of meat won't be able to fly himself，let alone carry a goat while flying. The most you'll get is eagles pushing baby goats off a cliff or falling together with a baby goat
The core about the dragon myth is true. Watch the Komodowaran 10 feet and 200lbs (who has the most toxic mouth of all lizards) and imagine there bigger ancestors 30 00 years ago with 900lbs and 20 feet long, that was a dragon without wings.
Herodotus the Greek historian wrote about dragons, flying serpents, some with legs, some without. The apocrypha mentions David killing a dragon. Marco Polo wrote about seeing what we would call a dinosaur. Strabo, another Greek historian wrote about dragons and flying serpents in India. And the Chinese wrote about using dragon blood and bone in certain medicine. Just look up dragons in history and follow the rabbit hole.
About Marco Polo and chinese dragon bones - it's sort of true. Dinosaur fossils were often found in modern northern China and Mongolia since antiquity (at least those finding were written down, older ones should definatelly be done as well, but in that time there were no writting).
@@alexmalyarchuk1723 yup, and what about the Incan burial stones that depict humans riding on dinosaurs. Hundreds of years before the first fossils were ever discovered.
@@southpawhammer8644 not Incan stones, but Ica stones (hence Ica province in Peru). Most of them are fakes, made by Basilio Uschuya in 1960's and later popularised by Javier Cabrera Darquea. Uschuya had admitted, that he made them up. Some are real thing, made by precolombian cultures, but those ones has no pictures of stegosaurus and other "dinosaur pictures".
@Southpaw Hammer Ica stones are not the only fraud of such type. Earlier, in 1945, there was huge shouting about Acambaro statues from Mexico - about 30 thousands of small teracota figures, many resembled non-avian dinosaurs. All of them were "found" by Waldemar Julsrud. In 1960's scientists made final verdict - those figures were made in 1930's, not earlier. So Ica stones were not the first attempt to made name and fortune for "occasional" finders.
There was a news report in the 1960s about an eagle attacking a small child and trying to fly off carrying the kid but the parents or someone scaring the bird into dropping the child. I think it was in the midwest area of the USA. Also there was a report about a small plane pilot in Alaska saying a bird flew by him and the pilot swore that the bird's wingspan was almost as big as the plane's wingspan.
The lack of fossils could just mean there was only a small population of dragons. How many fossils of galapagos tortoises do you expect will be dug up thousands of years from now?
@@jontraz5993pssssh I don’t know what you’re talking about. I only see “were dragons real?”. It’d be best not to imagine such a grammatically incorrect sentence.
I think drgaons "breathing fire" was probably something akin to a defense ability. Like how some lizards can spit up their food or shoot blood from their eye. It probably was spitting up stomach acid.
@FarthersUnited-fu Actually, Dragon's DO spit fire or napalm in this case! This is done with sacs tuck behind their main fangs. The sac holds a special liquid and ignites when in contact with oxygen molecules. The liquid is released through tiny holes at the tip of their front main fangs just like spitting cobras spits out venom.
@mattluke5546 Agreed, but there's also another problem that people aren't willing to accept too.....Dragons are extraterrestrials. Alpha Draconians, if I remember correctly! That is the name of class they are ranked to. It is said that they are from the constellation, Draco and Orion.....I think.
That lends to the fact that it's only a story rather than real animal. Most likely through trade routes these stories would spread. Rather than specific traits being different (such as wing shape, size, and color) but instead it's stuff that's specific to the culture
Nah the fire benders wiped them out. Uncle Iroh found the last ones and earned their respect then learned the true form of firebending. He told the fire nation that he killed the dragon so he could protect them
Because eagles are big enough to pick human beings up and drop them to their death... Look at his podcast about eagles better yet look up how vicious eagles are..
I read a book that postulated this theory, and the authors added in that the fire-breathing bit was achieved chemically. The caustic liquids were kept in two organs similar to the way a stomach and a gizzard have separate jobs to do within the digestive process. They pointed out that some reptiles spit venom, and dragon fire was a similar adaptation. Once the dragon died, the chemicals also helped dissolve the hollow bone evidence.
Raptors/birds of prey are actually the closest living relatives to dinosaurs. Obviously crocs/gators are real close too but not as close as those types of birds
@@danielbateman6518 dude that is my favorit theory. Ofcourse you will say you had a epic fight with that thing on a mountain far away when you find a dinosaur skull when in reality all you were doing is getting high in the forest for 2 weeks and found the skull on the way back.
That would be very cool. I went through ancestry DNA and I'm very English Scottish and Scandinavian. In MOST of the ancient sagas and a lot of knights tales characters are known for slaying giant winged dragons. It was a very common story in mythology. It would be cool if we could find something on this.
@@YourMaIsFit because in America unlike every other place ever we accept EVERYBODY HERE. Our nation is a stir pot of culture. So we all trace it back, so when another American asks where are your ancestors from, or where are your peeps from we have a good answer. Usually it goes like " I'm Texan but my family comes from so and so. That's why my last names so and so. But outside of America it doesn't matter because if I go up to an Englishman or a Scott and say we're the same. There gonna laugh HARD and say "no your American". So it's really just for us to know our roots and understand where we come from. Also in America we divide ourselves a lot based on race. But if a black guy goes to africa from America or a Chinese person to China from America, they will see them as 100% American. White black all those categories we've created ourselves historically. America has hard times getting along with ourselves because of this. But we are still #1 in many ways 😉✌️🇺🇲 Let's go Brandon/ mega 4ever. FJB
@@mathewtrussell9677 American society number 1 in many ways??? Duuuudddeee..... C'moooonnn..... American government and society are already rotten and under mud.... Gang bang, sex parties, Coca Cola, excessive chips and milkshakes, trash hollywood films, siliconed fake boobs, drugs and alcohol, obession of stupid video games and excessive ignorance and a blind nationality motto are what majority of American society is all about
I took a baby bird (starling) out of a nest when I was 14 and raised it to adulthood and it was amazing, he would go outside with me and sit on my shoulder, then he’d fly off and eat an insect and then come back to my shoulder, and then after about 6 months he was fully grown, flying, eating bugs and I think his instincts kicked back in and he was like “wait a minute, I’m a wild bird” and he wouldn’t come back to me one night and then he hung around outside for a couple of days but he wouldn’t come to me anymore and then I just stopped seeing him one day, he was probably off to find a mate, but it was a really cool experience 😊
We raised a couple birds that fell out of a small tree we cut down on the property. We moved them nearby at about the same height but never saw the parents come back. First one who grew the fastest we found dead in the yard when he started leaving on his own no clue what happened, the second one would come back and land right on our back porch and call out until you came and fed him. He did this for some time until one day he never came back. Always wonder if he made it out there. Truly a cool experience of how trusting and dependent they can be, while also how resilient and adaptable they are. They do in fact grow up so fast, just hope the little guy made it to a decent lifespan.
This actually comes from a book written in the late 90's. The man who wrote the book actually broke down the science, and science after him only tends to support his theory more and more. Few thoughts. Dinosaurs closest relatives are birds, and we are now aware they are all feathered animals. Birds are the ones with hallow bones. He theorized that some species actually do have ventral sacks which operate off of acidic digestive systems. A combination of a ventral sack and hallow bones would allow a larger dinosaur to fly instead of glide. the highly acidic stomach required for a ventral sack also produces a lot of hydrogen. Hydrogen is flamable, and with a mechanism to produce a spark like an eel, could turn them into an effective bire-breather. But yeah... the book was interesting, and it was surprising that the man that wrote it did the math on it. It was a theory to which the author himself didn't seem to portray as a 'belief'. **Edited: Someone revealed the book name: The Flight of Dragons by Peter Dickinson. Just putting this here so people stop asking. Interesting read.
That is so interesting! I thought dinosaurs most closely related animal were crocodiles and lizards, reptiles in general. Amazing your explanation about how it could be possible that they actually spit fire!
@@princessadora Completely incorrect. T-Rex, for instance, closest ancestor is the chicken. A close second is the Ostrich. In fact, most modern paleontologists are certain that almost all dinosaurs were feathered as well. This was first published in SCIENCE magazine in 2008, and is now widely accepted as fact, btw, in the paleontology community. I get it is weird to hear, having seen the same depictions of reptilian dinosaurs for your entire life. In fact the term raptor, means "bird of prey". So many paleontologists believed this was true long before it was proofed (both by fossil record and genetically), and considered fact by everyone. This also makes almost every dinosaur movie you've ever seen, utterly incorrect in the visuals used to portray dinosaurs as reptiles.
Joe: "Large eagles weigh 20 lbs" Joe 20 seconds later: "Eagles can catch and carry 10lbs salmons" Joe 30 seconds later: "Those salmons propably weigh more than the eagles.."
Well the bombardier beetle can basically shoot fire out their butts by mixing to chemicals which cause a mini explosion of hot gas and chemicals which burn the preditor. So a dragon could have the same or similar organ in their mouth/neck
FACTS!!! I've told ppl about this for the longest and their small minds have almost always tried to ridicule me smh. If that beetle, no bigger than my thumbnail could cause smoke then a creature with the exact same mechanism the size of a horse/elephant/giraffe would ABSOLUTELY breath fire 🤔. Such a simple concept that escapes so many 🤦🏿♂️😒
When I lived in Nevada, I was so amazed that, not only did I see ZERO lightning bugs but people there had never even heard of them, let alone seen one. They don't travel west of the Mississippi
we have bombardier beetle, fire/bullet ant, snakes, blood squirting lizards etc. so maybe dragons had something like venom /acid/ etc that gives a burning sensation. So i do agree that there existed dragons. maybe multiple species depending on geology and environment, just like how we have many different sub/species of animals that we have today.
Joe : its only 40 pounds, thats not that bad Also Joe : Eagles so light and yet so strong well Imagine a 40 pound Eagle then? If a 5 pound Eagle can carry away a 10 pound salmon then a 40 pound Eagle can carry away a 80 pound child in theory....
Not really how physics works. A 40 pound eagle with the same proportions would only be about 3 times the size and be able to carry (as lift is directly to proportional to wing surface area) 30 pounds, so not even able to get off the ground. In order to lift 80 pounds it would need to have a wingspan around 50-60 feet
@@VortexMMA_ My first calculation (the one that couldn't fly) was for an eagle 3 times the size because thats how big a 40 pound eagle would be with the same proportions. Square cube law means increasing size increases the mass exponentially, hence why it needs a ridiculous wing span to lift 80 pounds.
@@Hu54644 The word Dragon original meaning was snake. The defiinition oof snake at that time in today terms meant reptile. As time progressed the word for snake was replace and the word Dragon started to mean giant reptile ( and by giant I would say it meant a reptile that could be a danger to a 12 years old child) . This meaning remained more or less the same until around 1400 AD . In the late medieval age with the advent of hieraldics and embelished stories from people that never saw a dragon dragons started to combine and get supernatural powers. As a note the standard dragon would have 1-3 heads most ( unless it was a moral story never meant to be literal) and if it couls spit anything it was poison . The cases where dragons could spit fire are extremely rare and with the except of the Leviathan most probably just spit something that could easily catch fire not fire itself ( and considering the lighting was done by torches...). About flight some dragons could fly but they were described either not having any limbs apart from wings ( which is unrealistic) or gaving only 2 extra limbs ( what we would call a wyvern - and darwinists probably would call a pterodactyl) . The six limbs dragons only started appearing again during the medieval time around 14 century. By the pre-medieval definition some crocodiles and some snakes ( like the Anaconda, Python, Boa) can be considered dragons. As a note some dragons had decorations you could say on their heads. This lead to people to say that certain lizards that looked similar but where more smaller could also be considered dragons even in the medieval age. In conclusion even if the term was not very well defined the definition would be a reptile large enough to eat a 12 years old child.
Dragons could have been 100% real, maybe not fire breathers but probably acid spitters. A giant flying reptile that could regurgitate acid could have totally been possible
Absolutely reasonable. It only makes sense that it was exaggerated but with basic reason or logic while also giving in to belief you can determine what seems realistic when toned down or what's complete bs. Bigfoot for me is a no. But dragons is a yes because there are more animals that resemble the concept of a dragon. Ie: Eagles and Komoda dragons so years ago I could consider an animal like a dragon but I don't want to believe that some big strong d!ck having ape man is running around in the woods still to this date.
@@stuartlittle69420 yeah bigfoot is definitely not real, there's a lot of conspiracy about a giant humanoid but a lot of it may be from large ape sightings
@@sigmachadtrillioniare6372 true! And the scaly throats probably produced enough friction to cause just a slight enough spark to combust that acid! I mean who knows how these ancient things evolved :0
This is actually most likely what happened, and the myth of them breathing fire comes from the pockets of natural gas left from the decomposition coming in contact with their torches.
One theory i seen years ago said their skull had containers that could keep liquids seperate, then when fight or flight would kick in they would like sneeze the liquids out and when the meet on contact would combust. Like a certain beetle can do.
Never in my life have I considered the possibility of dragons actually existing, but now that I’m thinking about it more…it actually doesn’t sound THAT crazy. Especially considering the depictions of dragons that span across multiple cultures and societies.
Every depiction of a dragon comes from a story, or a myth, why didn't any historian at the time write about this dragons? If you are writing the story of Alexander, (the anabasis of Alexander by Arrian for example) , shouldn't Alexander have encountered dragons more than once? If he did, why not write about it? If it's because there were just another animal at the time, are you telling me that dragons existed and never attacked an army ? And Where are the fossils of dragons? And when and why people stopped thinking that dragons existed if they had to live with them? I don't think that a dragon is a very forgettable creature... And all of this without even mentioning the scientific questions, just the logical ones....
@@Name-cz5jj The Japanese army had to abandon Burma because many soldiers were devoured by crocodiles. That is just the example in the top of my head, if a fucking dragon existed and it's hungry, why not eat some soldiers? And where did he nest? Are you telling me that never s group of soldiers got to close to a dragon nesting zone?
Well consider this. There are almost definitely entire orders of animals completely unknown to science, based on the implied gaps in the fossil record.
Also think about it like this if they did have hollow bones not only would they not fossilize but they would be lighter meaning the possibility of flight was increased. Also It is theorized they did not fart & waste that gas rather save it in their body like another set of lungs & use that methane combined with a spark from them grinding their teeth together to create fire. It is theorized they searched for or a mineral that would cause this spark the same way goats seek out salt
@@geronimogarciazeballos9521 The historian Cassius Dio recorded that the Roman army killed a dragon during the invasion of Carthage and sent the hide to the Roman Senate.
It's actually very creepy though. The burden of proof that these civilizations communicated somehow, or passed down the same stories someway is just too large. Some weird shit happened for sure
@@thegreatfooch Graham Hancock, dude. His stories about exactly about that (and other amazing facts about ancient cultures. If you do not know him, I highly recommends his chats with Joe.
The cowned eagle has in recent history killed human children as 7 years. It kills its prey by swooping down and puncturing its throat or skull. I've used them and a few others as the basis for dragons in my writing. Vultures and other similar birds will spit out stomach acid in self defence. And in most cultures I believe dragons would breathe poison gas or spit acid. I also throw in some other creatures as inspiration for dragons like bombardier beetles which kill predators with steam and giant deathstalker scorpions which literally spray their kurtoxin at their targets. And plenty more wildly fantasy sounding animals.
'Dragons' as a concept isn't that crazy. Some Pterosaurs were the size of a modern day giraffe with massive wings. I believe Quetzalcoatlus was the largest animal to ever fly. Well, according to the fossil record.
This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard...if people believed it. This is the same reason why the story of Noah appears throughout different religions by different names. But I always love Joe
List of stories about dragons during those times: Marco Polo's adventures: He talks about the kingdom he visited where they had 2 massive Lizards 30ft, claws like tigers, and a mouth that can swallow a man whole, and were trained like pets to keep around the throne. They even had methods to train them and if they wouldn't oblige they'd decapitate them. The Dragon Riders in China where they had the massive lizards pull chariots. The people of Asia who hunted these giant lizards down and would follow their trail and put spears opposite the way they came so the dragons would walk over the spears and lacerate themselves. If you look in every religion around the world they all have dragons in their stories. Even Frikken Alaska and the Eskimos have dragons in their godman stories. Bibles are just records of what was seen. Unfortunately, a lot gets omitted or changed to benefit the tyrant at the time progressing their own virtues and changing the words. Humans are known to hunt everything to extinction. Why wouldn't Dragons be a part of that list?
@trb3230 naaah.... The imagery of Dragon came from China. Hell... Ancient Greeks or Arabs or Turks never had an imagery like that in their mythologies or folk tales. Or in literature etc
@@Dave.Mustaine.Is.Genius Greeks did have depiction of dragons but they didn't breath fire or have wings the were giant serpents with scales like iron.
I'm a New Zealander. I live in a small city at the top of the south island called Nelson. I went on a school trip over to the Golden Bay which is a 2.5 hour drive west of Nelson. We went on a walk through the national park and found remains of a moa just off the path. It was cool. Also is caves on top of Takaka hill. Huge limestone caves underground at the top of the hill. There are moa bones in there too. Another little story to add is while on another school trip to haast on the west coast of the south island we got told story's about the haast eagle. The local maori think a couple of them are still alive in the mountains of the fiordlands national park which is the bottom west of the south island. The moose he talks about in the podcast is in that area too. Its the most dense bush we have in nz. Some of it never explored.
Job 41 : 15His rows of scales are his pride, tightly sealed together. 16One scale is so near to another that no air can pass between them. 17They are joined to one another; they clasp and cannot be separated. 18His snorting flashes with light, and his eyes are like the rays of dawn. 19Firebrands stream from his mouth; fiery sparks shoot forth! 20Smoke billows from his nostrils as from a boiling pot over burning reeds. 21His breath sets coals ablaze, and flames pour from his mouth. 22Strength resides in his neck, and dismay leaps before him. 23The folds of his flesh are tightly joined; they are firm and immovable. 24His chest is as hard as a rock, as hard as a lower millstone!
English Dragons and Chinese Dragons are highly unlikely to have existed It is theorised Dragons came from a mixture of our 3 greatest threats back when we were prey Birds Reptiles (snakes mostly) And Leopards When you bring them all together, you get a dragon
In Hollywood movies like Jurassic World, we see dinosaurs brought back from extinction-and hunting us down and eating us alive. And, no doubt, if humans and dinosaurs coexisted, some of that carnage certainly happened. But, for the most part, the opposite was true. We hunted them down and cooked them for dinner. In many of the legends and much of the ancient artwork that is exactly what we find-humans hunting down the giant reptiles and killing them. Lions and tigers and bears did not have it quite as bad as the dinosaurs (hence, they are still around). That is because our ancestors seemed particularly fixated on “slaying the dragon”!
Why does it seem so far-fetched that Dragons actually existed? So many stories, from so many non-connected groups of people, all depicting the same stories... Giants, Dragons, world-wide flood, dinosaurs. All stories told by people on different continents, all unconnected. Seems crazy to doubt.
Lots of people and cultures shared mythos, mermaids are a biggie and many others too. In terms of dragons, I think it's just a case of plenty of animals that look like dragons (from dinosaurs to marine reptile) were found abd people spun their stories. They used to think megladon teeth were the tongues of serpents for example. It's a nice story but I very much doubt fire breathing dragons existed as we know them.
@@fawnieee Mermaids are a relatively modern story. Around 1000 B.C. is the first tale and the stories spread with trade around Asia and Europe. There are Dragon stories from all over the world, long before trade routes reached around the world. The stories from South American Tribes, North American Indians, Europeans, Africans, and Asians, all describe similar beasts that resembled what we now know as dinosaurs.
Jason Dougherty I am willing to admit that a real life dragon is 100% possible knowing how little we actually know about the earth before our dominance. Now it is incredibly hard to believe that they could shoot fire but a real animal is 100% possible. A tiny tiny fraction of animals that have ever existed were actually fossilized. So we know that we are missing a lot of the earths history pertaining to living breathing creatures.
@@fawnieee i saw a theory that explained the fire breathing dilemma. What if it was some sort of venom that when irritated the skin and gave the sensation of burning. After many stories and translations people correlated that to fire.
The Flight of Dragons by Peter Dickinson - answered the question "Why would a creature so big need to fly" by turning it around to "Why would a flying animal need to be so big". The hypothesis Dickinson puts out (I think he intends it as pure fantasy) is the dragons were like living dirigibles. They had bird like bones and air sack filled with hydrogen. Occasionally, they had to get rid of some excess hydrogen and exhaled it. To prevent hydrogen build up in their caves they burned the hydrogen when exhaling. See it all makes sense.
It’s not far fetched for something to be massive and flying, literally pterodactyls existed once upon a time also that thing you said about excess gas being expelled literally sounds like burping bruh
@@TwitchClipzlol Are you trying to ask how the dragon would ignite the hydrogen? Dickinson addressed this. The first thought that would come to mind is an electrical spark. But as Dickinson points out animals that create an electric charge devote a large part of their biology to that power. Think electric eel. However, another possibility, and I can remember if this was the author's or not, would be to have piece of flint and steel in a gizzard like pouch and click them together to produce a spark. Here is an article you may find entertaining. www.sciencenewsforstudents.org/article/nature-shows-how-dragons-might-breathe-fire
Joe needs to have him on again he's done discovered two or three more animals that were basically supposed to be extinct since his last podcast with him I love hearing this guy talk he's just one of the most passionate and dedicated people to his craft that you will ever see absolutely love this guy
Lol... I bet those flying lizards ate what ever we were back in those days... and then the asteroid happened and our subconscious just equated the fire raining down to the flying lizards...
@@zionsky3342 we didnt exist when the mass extinction happened, homo sapiens(us) emerged nearly 300,000 years ago , and early humans first emerged about 2m years ago ,the asteroid hit around 66m years ago , def some crazy shit tho , maybe they were real , who knows.
Bombardier beetle can spit fire. It combines two chemicals. China had positions in their royal court for Royal Dragon Feeders and Royal Dragon Tamers. The dragons weren’t as big. Fossils need very specific conditions to form. When they colonized new areas, they had to drive out the “dragons” that lived there. Dragons included a bunch of different types of creatures. Like reptile, or amphibians. Every dinosaur was a dragon, but not all dragons were dinosaurs. Dragons were spoken about, written about, and drawn in the history of dozens and dozens of countries around the world. Everyone knew you had to slay the dragons before you settled in a new area, because they were so terrible and terrifying. Dinosaur was not a term that was invented until the 1800’s, but the word “dragon” was used all the way through the 1600’s. “Terrible lizard” was not just a myth. How would ancient people and civilizations know what they looked like? How would they know how to draw them? Why are there drawings on caves, paintings on pottery, carvings on stone walls of ancient buildings. We think of “dragons” as a very thin narrow thing. But it’s actually much larger than that. Long necks. Long tails. Hard scales, not all could fly. Some were under water sea creatures with large fins and thick skin/bubbler. All of these were considered dragons, or serpents. If they posed a threat to humans, and were very hard to kill, and the only ones still alive are ones are in areas where humans have not extensively explored, of course they would be difficult to find now, and of course there would be each civilization with their own stories of the knights fighting them. It’s entirely plausible,especially if we have a larger perspective about what a “dragon” could be or would look like.
the dragon breathing fire is a direct link to the komodo dragon lizards who have so much bacteria in their mouths, that being bitten by one would leave your flesh looking and feeling as if it had been horribly burned
That's some bullcrap man. The Anglosaxons were prehistoric (Mesolithic to Neolithic) unless you mean the medieval ones; in which case why haven't the Romans or Frisians reported terrorbirds?
Im inclinded to believe there is a possibility that what we consider medieval dragons to be actually a potential flying lizard species that were hunted to extinction, the bird bones theory also would (in theory) explain the lack of evidence as well in the fossil record, which itself is a series of guesses just like science, and the fire breathing aspect couldve been a reference to a spitting cobra -like venom that made you feel like your body was on fire, and over the centuries as the stories get told and retold from memory the details change and become more simple or fantastical
A lot of history is hidden. Giant fossils have been found and covered up so I wouldn't be surprised if dragon fossil discoveries have been covered up too. There's evidence that dragons and dinosaurs were roaming the earth with humans... its fascinating
I mean, what's the point? There is no evidence at all and they also had a big fantasy back then like humans nowadays. Just read all the greek god stories. It's like chilling 1000 years and then people would try to search for Elves because it is written in some book. It's just pointless entertainment. Nothing to do with science.
Just based off on 'dragon' like creatures depicted across many different cultures, I think it probably did exist. But it's probably a language and concept variation, in Chinese culture the dragon is depicted as like a flying snake essentially with four short limbs for crawling while on land. That as a concept is far-fetched for us to imagine, probably doesn't make sense from a physics POV, but that's not to say that a large creature with the necessary apparatus didn't interact with early humans even much later than we believe was possible.
Given that a lot of animals, a HUGE number of animals probably went extinct I don't find it hard to believe that they were real. Perhaps the dragon breathing fire may have been exaggerated and there was some other explanation that the people of that time misinterpreted. I do however believe dragons were serpents if it is they were real and perhaps had different species like cows in the tropics and temperate zones as well as the many other differing species in the different climates. So it's possible depending on the location there were different dragons and like the different whales one kind may have been a bit dangerous than another. One specie may be able to fly while another may not and can only walk while another cannot walk nor fly. All of this is filled with assumptions but it is crazy that many cultures have these creatures that has similar main traits similar stories of them. Like many of our prehistoric animals dragon might as well have been real, the possibility is endearing.
@@misachitachibana7214the bombardier beetle expels an ignitable liquid that catches when it hits the air. It's possible that a species could have a dual function gas, hydrogen, assisting in flight, and igniting in air
I wonder if, just maybe, some sort of strange flying lizard creature that existed in all these places (which seems likely given their extremely common depictions in unrelated countries) might’ve had some sort of acidic defense mechanism. Like, some weird combustible chemical that they would spit in order to scare off predators. And that’s why dragons “breathe fire”. Maybe they didn’t literally breathe flames from their mouths, but instead spat some kind of juice that would burn or combust, kinda like a mix of a bombardier beetle and one of those puking baby hawks or whatever.
Lol... I bet those flying lizards ate what ever we were back in those days... and then the asteroid happened and our subconscious just equated the fire raining down to the flying lizards...
We have lizards that shoot venom or acid. It's not to far fetched to say it was combustible, especially if they shoot towards a torch wielding knight. If Dinosaurs can be agreed upon, Dragons aren't to crazy. Horned Horses was probably necessary when combating these flying beasts.
So.e type of secretion with a high mineral content, from glands in their mouths? Maybe 2 to 4 separate glands, with 2 separate secretions, that react with each other and the oxygen in the air... VIOLENTLY.
Nonsense, hasent been a dragon in these parts for 1000 years.
Then you are living in the wrong parts
For being Gandalf you sure can't spell!!!
HAS NOT OR HASN'T
a long time ago there lived a hobbit
I'm dying:D
@@josephcremeans A wizard never spells something incorrectly, nor does he spell something correctly, he spells it pricesley as he means to.
“I don’t know, not my field” is something that more people should admit on things that they don’t know, myself included
hahahahahah word
“However that may be. I would still like to share my opinion on the subject”....
Can’t always have Rank 1 in the room.
xKISS KISSx whenever I’m not 100% sure I’ll always throw in a “could be talking out of my ass but” or “if I’m remembering correctly”. Can always check your source later
Demetrakii_98 C “I might be lying but,”
I have masters and am in my 11th year as a Dragon Biologist so most topics I have admitted being out of my zone so to speak
Did you hear about Helgen? They say it was attacked by a huge dragon!
I got ptsd 😭
"Dragons were never gone. They were just invisible and very, very quiet." - M'aiq
@@AerysTMD m'aiq is done talking
DRAGONS? HERE????? quick wheres Jogvir
Fear not. Come dragon or giant, we'll be ready.
Who’s here after The View?
😂
is this actually the clip?
Holy fuck that lady is retarded
Me after the View 😂
@@bvyup2112 we live in a crazy fucking world my dude, cheers😂
Everyone
The dragon's didn't literally spit fire, they were just very talented rappers.
Hahaha stoopid
Lol....they spit hot fire like DY-LON
@Richard Trischka he couldn't spit for $#!t
@@booploops22 Parappa Spyro crossover
Lol lol. That's a good one
He doesn't mention a kind of important part. These cultures that depicted dragons had no knowledge of many other people. LIke, the Chinese did not introduce the idea of dragons to the Aztecs, all cultures seemed to some how have come up with the same "animal" on their own. And it's prevalant in A LOT of cultures.
Same with god
they absolutely have never existed. we have fossil records... also, if they had lived at the same time as humans... we would know. come on people... stop being children.
@B uki Greeks found the skull of the mammoth and turned it into the Cyclops.
@Rowan Melton the farthest back is mesopatamia around 10,000 years ago,
@@Daniel-yo5es thank you for not being an idiot
1841 is when the word "dinosaur" was invented to describe all the fossils discovered. Prior to 1841, they were always called "dragons" worldwide. Dragons were mentioned by Marco Polo (late 1200s AD), Herodotus (400s BC), and book of Job (Job 40:15-24) as the "Behemoth" and (Job 41:1-11) as the "Leviathan" as dwelling with humans. Polo claims China emperor had a "dragon" pulling his chariots. Herodotus refers to flying dragons with 'bat-like' wings who lives in caves of India and 'pestered the elephants'.
Yep. I wanted to say something similar to this.
@@clublouie Glad I'm not only one who heard about this. Scientist Sir Richard Owen is guy who invented the word "dinosaur" in 1841. The word "dragon" was in English dictionary up to mid 1940's, described as, "now rare" (vs. 'myth creature'). I'm pushing 50, college graduate, yet just recently learned how history is full of mentions of 'dragons'. Even Alexander the Great mentioned dragons in caves (India) that frightened his troops. Recent discovery of intact mammoths and soft tissue of dinos kinda adds insult to the 'millions of yrs ago' version of story.
It's like the word unicorn that was used to describe a one horned rhino in the 19th century it is found in the dictionary of that era. There was also bicornus or something I believe for 2 horned rhino. There are also old drawings of dinosaurs found in Peru which are the exact same as we believe them to have looked
Check out Mud fossil university... Roger says dragons and giants around the planet...
There is actually a species of beetle that exists right now and it can in fact start fires with the chemicals in its digestive system. it also flies. Is it so outlandish that if a beetle exits that breathes a form of fire starting fluid and flies, that there could in fact be dragons in ancient times? i mean the evidence that such a creature can exist is right here before our eye's. not to mention all the millions of artworks from ancient times that we see of people with dragons/dinosaur's. Such art is a mere google search away and its artwork from every region of the planet earth from the ancient world.
Who’s here after Joe reminding us of this gem on Twitter?
Only a small fraction of animals that have existed fossilized.
Another example of a logical and grounded post being buried under lolz. :/
Exactly
Wow i dont know this, so there maybe more kind of strange and cool creatures that we would never know
Great point!
What's your source for this statement?
Joe: Were you alive when people were around
Dragon:No
Joe: It would be a lot cooler if you did
Yes!
Alright alright alright😏
If hallow Dragon bones are hard to find wouldn't it be harder to find the remains of giant invertebrates like arthropods or cephalopods?
Jötunnomachy you may be onto something
@@jotunnomachy2480 The difference with those is that they lived in the sea or in humid places (like swamps), so when they died their remains would be imprinted in the soil, lime or wherever their carcass deposited. That's how you get fossils for soft bodied invertebrates
The dragons all just migrated to the blank parts of the map.
Little do they tell us that's why the Antarctic keeps melting....
... "Here be dragons" marks the spot.
ramms mutter69 oh shit you might be onto something
Foreal tho....🤫
The core about the dragon myth is true. Watch the Komodowaran 10 feet and 200lbs (who has the most toxic mouth of all lizards) and imagine there bigger ancestors 30 00 years ago with 900lbs and 20 feet long, that was a dragon without wings.
I like to believe dragons may have existed but not in the way we think. It's possible that lizards during ancient times were more massive than crocodiles and komodos. I bet some didn't even fly and some were smaller but with long bodies and hollow bones which helped them glide across the sky giving the illusion that they were flying. It's also possible that these dragons may have been already close to extinction by the time civilizations started writing stories about them.
Why would any of these be truly extinct when the Mokelle M'Kembie (Brontosaurus) is so prevalent to South American Amazon tribes that they see them on an every-other-year basis, get sick, and die when they eat them; my literal SRGT. Slaughter USMC Nam-Vet father said he had seen dinosaurs in the jungle but as a Christian Bible thumper rationalized that therefore, the planet was only several thousand years old not Millions like science says; he was VERY out-dated and narrow-minded Bipolar son of a bitch fool, lord rest his soul.
Source ?
@@poopytainment6026his own opinion hence “I like to believe”.
@@poopytainment6026🤦♂️🤦♂️ its his own theory there is no source and its a pretty good theory if you ask me
@@poopytainment6026ur mustard chugging motha fig eating McDonald's owned belly lint tape
"You guys think the dragons ever did DMT?"
Almost certainly.
Cam, do dragons take coffee breaks?
😂😂
They probably contain a drug BETTER! If natural DMT can come from Toads... Dragons must have that REAL crazy drug!
“Jamie pull that up”
This the most Joe Rogan thumbnail, title and clip that ever was.
All it needs is Jujitsu, Crossfit, Aliens, and DMT
And bow hunting too 💀
... release the elk meat
@@mrmcgigity what's in that elk meat that makes Joe Rogan so woke. Is it laced with DMT?
I agree
Joe: “I can’t stop thinking about chimps riding dragons”
What a fucking weirdo
_CORDED STEEL_
@Klark Kent Rogan.
Lmfao
Klark Kent spot on 😂😂
Just after the turn of the century, at the beginning of the 1900s, a genealogy survey was being conducted in Wales.
In one region, all of the oldest residents, related stories of the dragons which were native to the area, when they were all still young children.
They described them as being covered in reflective scales, which gave them a shimmering jeweled appearance, of shifting, refracted, colors.
Approximately eight, to ten, feet long (including the tail), with a six, or eight, foot wingspan.
They said that they mostly just glided, from tree to tree, as they flew.
They did not spit any fire, or venom.
Basically harmless to humans, they equated them to being a damn nuisance predator, like a fox. Routinely killing chickens, and attacking new lambs.
The local people there didn't recognize them as being anything extraordinary. They viewed them as a threat to property, which needed to be eliminated.
The story goes, that they were basically hunted into extinction by the local farmers. They were easy to kill, and apparently couldn't replenish their population faster than they were being exterminated.
I've often wondered if this story was true, and if so... how very sad.
That depresses me to an extreme level :c
There are 4 foot long gliding snakes so if that was true it was either they saying that one of these gliding snakes were larger than they really are or it’s a undiscovered snake but unlikely. Assuming your telling the truth.
i find it disappointing that those "dragons" didn't spit venom - at the very least.
That is one of the most annoying facts about so called mythical creatures. Some of them were real. Humans were annoyed or frightened. Humans killed them. Then got the nerve to say that the creatures never even existed.
@@jacktheomnithere2127 Look into the Bombardier beetle. Pretty close.
I saw dragons in that historical documentary game of thrones
The most unrealistic part is a 4'11" girl being an assassin.
@@Paulafan5 90 pound bataman
Paulafan5 not rlly. I mean yes but no. It’s a fantasy show. She’s not takin dudes out 10x her size w her bare hands. Ever hear of David n Goliath? Tiny dude killed a giant dude w a rock.
i saw that too. Interesting real historical facts that documentary has
Why did you think I've come?
"I dunno anything about dragons."
-proceeds to talk about dragons.
Joe Rogan podcast in a nutshell :D
That's an academic thing. I know 10 hours worth of explaining for many topics that I would preface by saying I don't really know anything about it. He means in comparison to those who REALLY know about the topic
@@Litcheck Hell yeah. He's got a fat ass dick
@@robocu4 🤢
Steve McCord LMAO
This the most joe Rogan title I’ve ever read
You still needed to know his thoughts and clicked tho lol
L M didn’t mean it in a negative way
@@lilsteez8219 shit this the first one I clicked lol
Most Joe Rogan title should include DMT Chimps and Elk meat
This is the most joe rogan comment I’ve ever seen
Did Joe send you here?
Yaaas
If dragons were real then the Vatican totally has a skeleton hidden somewhere, lol
Lol it’s probably a room identical to the GoT one.
lmao
Its probably in plain sight as a fake dragon skeleton in some billionaires house hanging 4 storeys from the living room floor
@eddiewinehosen I disagree because people like to show off and if they have something amazing like a dragon's fossil, then.. well, as I said, they would show it off not keep it a secret as if it's illegal. The Vatican has nothing to lose by showing the existence of said creatures.
Lol isn't that actual building in the shape of a serpent looking thing?
Why would the Chinese zodiac have 11 "normal" animals and 1 mythical creature?
Robert Johnson The word Dinosaur didn’t exist till 1841 invented by Sir Richard Owen. Before that humans had been calling them Dragons, Leviathins and Behemoths ua-cam.com/video/R6GiNQvugn0/v-deo.html. ua-cam.com/video/s-_hZE0e4q4/v-deo.html. Watch my playlists
@@YouhavetoBelieve3347 But how do you explain goblins?
@@FloorManiac dwarfism
that's it! we have proof now!.. well maybe because they found dinosaur bones and they thought they were real animals
@@FloorManiac and bugbears... ;)
Eagles are like 10 lbs and can pull goats off cliffs. I can't imagine those goats are less than 40lbs if not twice that much. So a 35lb eagle would be terrifying!
no 10 pound birds are lifting goats, unless its a baby, but as an adult they can weigh up to 400 pounds.
@@jush471 They just crash into them, claws first, hoping they will fall from the cliffs they inhabit.
An eagle that just ate 2 lbs of meat won't be able to fly himself，let alone carry a goat while flying. The most you'll get is eagles pushing baby goats off a cliff or falling together with a baby goat
@@sciuresci1403 they pull small goats off the cliffs and let them drop.
ua-cam.com/video/VklTs-Tid_I/v-deo.html
@@sciuresci1403 Nah, sometimes they fly away with the goats.
ua-cam.com/video/h2ocCc8IVZY/v-deo.html
Here after the rogan tweet
The “fire” was probably some kind of regurgitated stomach acid that was spit on to people. Food for thought. No pun intended. Lol
That's what I was also thinking, similar to a Komodo but on a much larger scale
The core about the dragon myth is true. Watch the Komodowaran 10 feet and 200lbs (who has the most toxic mouth of all lizards) and imagine there bigger ancestors 30 00 years ago with 900lbs and 20 feet long, that was a dragon without wings.
Or just really bad breath due to bacteria in the mouth that will stop wounds healing if it bites you.
Thought for food... If ur a dragon...
Don't vultures do something like that?
Herodotus the Greek historian wrote about dragons, flying serpents, some with legs, some without. The apocrypha mentions David killing a dragon. Marco Polo wrote about seeing what we would call a dinosaur. Strabo, another Greek historian wrote about dragons and flying serpents in India. And the Chinese wrote about using dragon blood and bone in certain medicine. Just look up dragons in history and follow the rabbit hole.
About Marco Polo and chinese dragon bones - it's sort of true.
Dinosaur fossils were often found in modern northern China and Mongolia since antiquity (at least those finding were written down, older ones should definatelly be done as well, but in that time there were no writting).
@@alexmalyarchuk1723 yup, and what about the Incan burial stones that depict humans riding on dinosaurs. Hundreds of years before the first fossils were ever discovered.
@@southpawhammer8644 not Incan stones, but Ica stones (hence Ica province in Peru). Most of them are fakes, made by Basilio Uschuya in 1960's and later popularised by Javier Cabrera Darquea. Uschuya had admitted, that he made them up. Some are real thing, made by precolombian cultures, but those ones has no pictures of stegosaurus and other "dinosaur pictures".
@Southpaw Hammer Ica stones are not the only fraud of such type. Earlier, in 1945, there was huge shouting about Acambaro statues from Mexico - about 30 thousands of small teracota figures, many resembled non-avian dinosaurs. All of them were "found" by Waldemar Julsrud. In 1960's scientists made final verdict - those figures were made in 1930's, not earlier.
So Ica stones were not the first attempt to made name and fortune for "occasional" finders.
@Jason Berryman Leaving the city of Yachi, and traveling ten days in a westerly direction, you reach the province of Karazan, which is also the name of the chief city....Here are seen huge serpents, ten paces in length (about 30 feet), and ten spans (about 8 feet) girt of the body. At the fore part, near the head, they have two short legs, having three claws like those of a tiger, with eyes larger than a forepenny loaf (pane da quattro denari) and very glaring."
The jaws are wide enough to swallow a man, the teeth are large and sharp, and their whole appearance is so formidable, that neither man, nor any kind of animal can approach them without terror. Others are met with of a smaller size, being eight, six, or 5 paces long; and the following method is used for taking them. In the day-time, by reason of great heat, they lurk in caverns, from whence, at night, they issue to seek their food, and whatever beast they meet with and can lay hold of, whether tiger, wolf, or any other, they devour;
"After which they drag themselves towards some lake, spring of water, or river, in order to drink. By their motion in this way along the shore, and their vast weight, they make a deep impression, as if a heavy beam had been drawn along the sands. Those whose employment is to hunt them observe the track by which they are most frequently accustomed to go, and fix into the ground several pieces of wood, armed with sharp iron spikes, which they cover with sand in such a manner as not to be perceptible.
When therefore the animals make their way towards the places they usually haunt, they are wounded by these instruments, and speedily killed. The crows, as soon as they perceive them to be dead, set up to scream; and this serves as a signal to the hunters, who advance the spot, and proceed to separate the skin from the flesh, taking care immediately to secure the gall, which is most highly esteemed in medicine.
In cases of the bite of a mad dog, a penny weight of it, dissolved in wine, is administered. It is also useful in accelerating parturition, when the labor pains of women have come on. A small quantity of it being applied to carbuncles, pustules, or other eruptions on the body, they are presently dispersed; and it is efficacious in many other complaints.
The flesh also of the animal is sold at a dear rate, being thought to have a higher flavor than other kinds of meat, and by all persons it is esteemed a delicacy." (The Travels of Marco Polo, © 1948,Book 2, Chapter XL, pg. 185-186)
It doesn't sound like any dinosaur we've seen, but definitely not anything around now.
The humility of this man to say "I don't know". Such a simple but powerful statement.
are you stupid
There was a news report in the 1960s about an eagle attacking a small child and trying to fly off carrying the kid but the parents or someone scaring the bird into dropping the child. I think it was in the midwest area of the USA. Also there was a report about a small plane pilot in Alaska saying a bird flew by him and the pilot swore that the bird's wingspan was almost as big as the plane's wingspan.
Where is the proof
The lack of fossils could just mean there was only a small population of dragons. How many fossils of galapagos tortoises do you expect will be dug up thousands of years from now?
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Come on man 😂😂
But there is also the assumption that there were many due to depictions of them in art across the globe
@@kohenwilliams5585 Maybe dragon could migrate like birds and you know move with seasons to different places
but why are the depictions vadty different
Dragons are real but some dude carrying a bunch of cheese wheels in his backpack killed them all
But then he took an arrow to the knee :/
I just started playing skyrim. I prefer healing potions
Catjea Apri Skyrim has always been an Imperial province and always shall be.
FOOS RO DAH!!!!!!
Khajiit has wares if you have coin 😼
Were dragons real?
Short answer: no
Long answer: yes
Were*
@@jacobcastillo136 not gonna lie. After all this time, I never noticed it got autocorrected to “we’re”. IOS is dogsh**
@@HellWrex we are dragons, real?
We are dragons. Real.
@@jontraz5993pssssh I don’t know what you’re talking about. I only see “were dragons real?”. It’d be best not to imagine such a grammatically incorrect sentence.
@@jacobcastillo136 literally no one gives a f*ck about you and your delicate ego about grammar
I think drgaons "breathing fire" was probably something akin to a defense ability. Like how some lizards can spit up their food or shoot blood from their eye. It probably was spitting up stomach acid.
@FarthersUnited-fu Actually, Dragon's DO spit fire or napalm in this case! This is done with sacs tuck behind their main fangs. The sac holds a special liquid and ignites when in contact with oxygen molecules. The liquid is released through tiny holes at the tip of their front main fangs just like spitting cobras spits out venom.
@@tufflucal4037You beat me to it. Amazing how little people know about Dragons.
@mattluke5546 Agreed, but there's also another problem that people aren't willing to accept too.....Dragons are extraterrestrials. Alpha Draconians, if I remember correctly! That is the name of class they are ranked to. It is said that they are from the constellation, Draco and Orion.....I think.
Joe “you think dragons ever did dmt? Jamie pull up that clip of the lizard doing ayahuasca, So it’s entirely possible” Rogan
Lol
What's a dmt? I'm not American, so I'm not familiar with your cultural-isms
@SaltyBrains I don't get it, I edited my comment Bec of a typo
Not my chair not my problem that’s what I always say
nenabunena just google it, it’s a drug
Dragons were on dmt eating elk and watching videos of moose getting hit by cars
Cwd zombie elk
You just described Joe's pornhub search
Zitimaj Zerg u alright bro that sounds like a trip 😂
In Canadia, moose don’t get hit by car. Car get hit by moose
I just watched cars hitting moose
Its interesting to think that “Dragons” are in almost all cultural history. Their own versions
No way
That lends to the fact that it's only a story rather than real animal. Most likely through trade routes these stories would spread. Rather than specific traits being different (such as wing shape, size, and color) but instead it's stuff that's specific to the culture
@@boombox789 what about Quetzalcoatl the flying serpent from the aztecs I’m pretty sure there were no contact of them before Europeans arrived
@@JuanRodriguez-rm6id shoooo you may have just found the origin son
So do gods stories and epic tales. And guess what...
Who came here after The View said that Joe genuinely believes in dragons even though this opens with "far out there ideas"
🤣
They all moved to the spirit world when the avatar didn’t reincarnate
🤣🤣🤣😂🤣😂
Everything changed when the fire nation attacked
Nah the fire benders wiped them out. Uncle Iroh found the last ones and earned their respect then learned the true form of firebending. He told the fire nation that he killed the dragon so he could protect them
They all exist in Skyrim now.
: "Dragons did exist"
Joe: "So they were eagles"
Because eagles are big enough to pick human beings up and drop them to their death... Look at his podcast about eagles better yet look up how vicious eagles are..
Tang Lung : "Dragon seeks path , dragon whips his tail !"
lmao
😂😂😂
He said like eagles. Seems you can't even understand what is being said.
I read a book that postulated this theory, and the authors added in that the fire-breathing bit was achieved chemically.
The caustic liquids were kept in two organs similar to the way a stomach and a gizzard have separate jobs to do within the digestive process. They pointed out that some reptiles spit venom, and dragon fire was a similar adaptation.
Once the dragon died, the chemicals also helped dissolve the hollow bone evidence.
Convenient.
Interesting theory
Very similar to the reason why there has never been a human skeleton found, as when a human dies the stomach acid dissolves all the evidence.
I assume this book was bought at the scholastic book fair lmao
No it’s not even a book he’s talking about the dragon documentary but that was proven to be all fake
Epic level of trolling by Joe reposting this 😂
Crocs are millions of years in the making, why not flying lizards?
Because anything that flies has a hallowish bone that wont last to fossilize..according to him
There are flying dinosaurs. They are the birds.
Raptors/birds of prey are actually the closest living relatives to dinosaurs. Obviously crocs/gators are real close too but not as close as those types of birds
I think water bound animals were protected in whatever event that happened
michael enochs I second that.
Joe “Did Dragons Have Foreskin” Rogan
hah!
Excuse me, what is foreskin?
@@dannyboy7299
Something barbarians don't cut off
Bad Dragons do. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Dragons are so badass they had fiveskin
I always figured that the myth of dragons came about because someone found a Dinosaur skull and their imagination went wild.
@Celtic Bear lol
Someone finds a dinosaur skull, brings it back to village saying "hey guys, look what I killed!"
@@danielbateman6518 that has happened. In other instances, but had happened.
Celtic Bear are you saying dinosaurs are fake lmao?
@@danielbateman6518 dude that is my favorit theory. Ofcourse you will say you had a epic fight with that thing on a mountain far away when you find a dinosaur skull when in reality all you were doing is getting high in the forest for 2 weeks and found the skull on the way back.
That would be very cool. I went through ancestry DNA and I'm very English Scottish and Scandinavian. In MOST of the ancient sagas and a lot of knights tales characters are known for slaying giant winged dragons. It was a very common story in mythology. It would be cool if we could find something on this.
People who give their DNA willingly to them ancestry websites are so so stupid
Why are Americans obsessed with their ancestry?
@@YourMaIsFit because in America unlike every other place ever we accept EVERYBODY HERE. Our nation is a stir pot of culture. So we all trace it back, so when another American asks where are your ancestors from, or where are your peeps from we have a good answer. Usually it goes like " I'm Texan but my family comes from so and so. That's why my last names so and so. But outside of America it doesn't matter because if I go up to an Englishman or a Scott and say we're the same. There gonna laugh HARD and say "no your American". So it's really just for us to know our roots and understand where we come from. Also in America we divide ourselves a lot based on race. But if a black guy goes to africa from America or a Chinese person to China from America, they will see them as 100% American. White black all those categories we've created ourselves historically. America has hard times getting along with ourselves because of this. But we are still #1 in many ways 😉✌️🇺🇲 Let's go Brandon/ mega 4ever. FJB
@@mathewtrussell9677 goddamn
@@mathewtrussell9677 American society number 1 in many ways??? Duuuudddeee..... C'moooonnn..... American government and society are already rotten and under mud.... Gang bang, sex parties, Coca Cola, excessive chips and milkshakes, trash hollywood films, siliconed fake boobs, drugs and alcohol, obession of stupid video games and excessive ignorance and a blind nationality motto are what majority of American society is all about
I took a baby bird (starling) out of a nest when I was 14 and raised it to adulthood and it was amazing, he would go outside with me and sit on my shoulder, then he’d fly off and eat an insect and then come back to my shoulder, and then after about 6 months he was fully grown, flying, eating bugs and I think his instincts kicked back in and he was like “wait a minute, I’m a wild bird” and he wouldn’t come back to me one night and then he hung around outside for a couple of days but he wouldn’t come to me anymore and then I just stopped seeing him one day, he was probably off to find a mate, but it was a really cool experience 😊
aw, he "left the nest", you were his dad bro
We raised a couple birds that fell out of a small tree we cut down on the property. We moved them nearby at about the same height but never saw the parents come back. First one who grew the fastest we found dead in the yard when he started leaving on his own no clue what happened, the second one would come back and land right on our back porch and call out until you came and fed him. He did this for some time until one day he never came back. Always wonder if he made it out there. Truly a cool experience of how trusting and dependent they can be, while also how resilient and adaptable they are. They do in fact grow up so fast, just hope the little guy made it to a decent lifespan.
I had a magpie
Harmones kicked in and was time to build a cozy nest... God Bless
Don’t take birds from nests 🤬
This actually comes from a book written in the late 90's. The man who wrote the book actually broke down the science, and science after him only tends to support his theory more and more.
Few thoughts.
Dinosaurs closest relatives are birds, and we are now aware they are all feathered animals.
Birds are the ones with hallow bones.
He theorized that some species actually do have ventral sacks which operate off of acidic digestive systems.
A combination of a ventral sack and hallow bones would allow a larger dinosaur to fly instead of glide.
the highly acidic stomach required for a ventral sack also produces a lot of hydrogen.
Hydrogen is flamable, and with a mechanism to produce a spark like an eel, could turn them into an effective bire-breather.
But yeah... the book was interesting, and it was surprising that the man that wrote it did the math on it.
It was a theory to which the author himself didn't seem to portray as a 'belief'.
**Edited: Someone revealed the book name: The Flight of Dragons by Peter Dickinson.
Just putting this here so people stop asking. Interesting read.
That is so interesting!
I thought dinosaurs most closely related animal were crocodiles and lizards, reptiles in general.
Amazing your explanation about how it could be possible that they actually spit fire!
i doubt that. they're serpents not birds.
dragons are a mix of 7 different animals including the eagle.
@@princessadora Completely incorrect. T-Rex, for instance, closest ancestor is the chicken. A close second is the Ostrich.
In fact, most modern paleontologists are certain that almost all dinosaurs were feathered as well.
This was first published in SCIENCE magazine in 2008, and is now widely accepted as fact, btw, in the paleontology community.
I get it is weird to hear, having seen the same depictions of reptilian dinosaurs for your entire life.
In fact the term raptor, means "bird of prey". So many paleontologists believed this was true long before it was proofed (both by fossil record and genetically), and considered fact by everyone.
This also makes almost every dinosaur movie you've ever seen, utterly incorrect in the visuals used to portray dinosaurs as reptiles.
Wow just crazy and false. Dinos are not related to birds. That is an evolutionist fantasy.
Joe: "Large eagles weigh 20 lbs"
Joe 20 seconds later: "Eagles can catch and carry 10lbs salmons"
Joe 30 seconds later: "Those salmons propably weigh more than the eagles.."
😂
I noticed that like tf? 😂😂😂
Smoked a big ass joint and said “fuck math” 😂
Bald eagles weigh like 6-10 pounds and osprey only weigh 3, they grab salmon like he’s talkin about not those big MFs
He was talking about the Hast Eagle when he said the large ones weigh 40 pounds. Then he starts talking about modern day eagles. Pay attention.
Well the bombardier beetle can basically shoot fire out their butts by mixing to chemicals which cause a mini explosion of hot gas and chemicals which burn the preditor. So a dragon could have the same or similar organ in their mouth/neck
Sounds like wizards of the coast got it right with green dragons and their acid breath then. Hahahaha
FACTS!!! I've told ppl about this for the longest and their small minds have almost always tried to ridicule me smh. If that beetle, no bigger than my thumbnail could cause smoke then a creature with the exact same mechanism the size of a horse/elephant/giraffe would ABSOLUTELY breath fire 🤔. Such a simple concept that escapes so many 🤦🏿♂️😒
I wonder if that's what they based the huge plasma shooting beetles from Starship Troopers on.
@@pnut3844able maybe
But it’s a chemical not fire. These medieval people claimed fire
Im so early, Dragons still existed.
That was good
DEV3N87
Daniel chapter 13 & 14... these are non canonical chapters, “censored”
There will come a time when stories of flying insects that had bellies that lit up like lightbulbs will be an unbelievable myth.
When I lived in Nevada, I was so amazed that, not only did I see ZERO lightning bugs but people there had never even heard of them, let alone seen one. They don't travel west of the Mississippi
Or stories of people with amazing technology that allowed them to communicate around the globe. We're living a myth right now.
@Electric Car That was exactly my intention.
@Electric Car imagine handing ur phone to a cave man, it’s magic, you know?
I grew up in Texas. I seen them plenty in south Texas. That's west of the Mississippi right??
Science guy: gives a really long and detailed explanation of the whole thing
Joe: .......................... wat
That pause was awkward.
@Tom Bombadildo that's every podcast 😂
we have bombardier beetle, fire/bullet ant, snakes, blood squirting lizards etc. so maybe dragons had something like venom /acid/ etc that gives a burning sensation.
So i do agree that there existed dragons. maybe multiple species depending on geology and environment, just like how we have many different sub/species of animals that we have today.
Dragons were definitely real, and still are. My mother-in-law is living proof.
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Saaaaaaaame 😂
I got mad Two And A Half Men vibes from this, this is good....
Yooooooooooo ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
No that's a pig.
Joe : its only 40 pounds, thats not that bad
Also Joe : Eagles so light and yet so strong
well Imagine a 40 pound Eagle then? If a 5 pound Eagle can carry away a 10 pound salmon then a 40 pound Eagle can carry away a 80 pound child in theory....
He almost said they are light for their weight.
Not really how physics works. A 40 pound eagle with the same proportions would only be about 3 times the size and be able to carry (as lift is directly to proportional to wing surface area) 30 pounds, so not even able to get off the ground. In order to lift 80 pounds it would need to have a wingspan around 50-60 feet
@@VortexMMA_ My first calculation (the one that couldn't fly) was for an eagle 3 times the size because thats how big a 40 pound eagle would be with the same proportions. Square cube law means increasing size increases the mass exponentially, hence why it needs a ridiculous wing span to lift 80 pounds.
Squared-Cubed law
Yeah and a 30 ton eagle can lift the statue of liberty
Matthew McConaughey:
-"What if i told you dragons are real" *Takes drag from cigarette*
McSkillet time is a flat circle
Be a lot cooler if they were heh...heh...heh
McSkillet underrated comment
Alright
Rust Cohle
I have a Webster's dictionary from the 1920's. Dragon is defined as a very rare reptile.
the word dragon means huge ( longer than 2m ) reptile. It comes from greek and latin. webster was modified to fit the darwinist agenda
Ok??? 😂😂😂😂 Dum*@$$
9 months later still waiting for the full definition out of your imaginary dictionary
@@Hu54644 The word Dragon original meaning was snake. The defiinition oof snake at that time in today terms meant reptile. As time progressed the word for snake was replace and the word Dragon started to mean giant reptile ( and by giant I would say it meant a reptile that could be a danger to a 12 years old child) . This meaning remained more or less the same until around 1400 AD . In the late medieval age with the advent of hieraldics and embelished stories from people that never saw a dragon dragons started to combine and get supernatural powers. As a note the standard dragon would have 1-3 heads most ( unless it was a moral story never meant to be literal) and if it couls spit anything it was poison . The cases where dragons could spit fire are extremely rare and with the except of the Leviathan most probably just spit something that could easily catch fire not fire itself ( and considering the lighting was done by torches...). About flight some dragons could fly but they were described either not having any limbs apart from wings ( which is unrealistic) or gaving only 2 extra limbs ( what we would call a wyvern - and darwinists probably would call a pterodactyl) . The six limbs dragons only started appearing again during the medieval time around 14 century. By the pre-medieval definition some crocodiles and some snakes ( like the Anaconda, Python, Boa) can be considered dragons. As a note some dragons had decorations you could say on their heads. This lead to people to say that certain lizards that looked similar but where more smaller could also be considered dragons even in the medieval age. In conclusion even if the term was not very well defined the definition would be a reptile large enough to eat a 12 years old child.
Dragons could have been 100% real, maybe not fire breathers but probably acid spitters. A giant flying reptile that could regurgitate acid could have totally been possible
Absolutely reasonable. It only makes sense that it was exaggerated but with basic reason or logic while also giving in to belief you can determine what seems realistic when toned down or what's complete bs. Bigfoot for me is a no. But dragons is a yes because there are more animals that resemble the concept of a dragon. Ie: Eagles and Komoda dragons so years ago I could consider an animal like a dragon but I don't want to believe that some big strong d!ck having ape man is running around in the woods still to this date.
@@stuartlittle69420 yeah bigfoot is definitely not real, there's a lot of conspiracy about a giant humanoid but a lot of it may be from large ape sightings
Acid burns, so the confusion would make sense
@@tukamadafuka maybe they had some sort of oil glands which produced stuff necessary to cause combustion
@@sigmachadtrillioniare6372 true! And the scaly throats probably produced enough friction to cause just a slight enough spark to combust that acid! I mean who knows how these ancient things evolved :0
It was probably just medieval people finding dinosaur bones and bringing them home saying they slayed a dragon
Actually medieval people DID find dinosaur bones and brought them home... but they told everyone they were testicles.
(Google "Scrotum humanum")
This is actually most likely what happened, and the myth of them breathing fire comes from the pockets of natural gas left from the decomposition coming in contact with their torches.
Yes, yes they dug up a t-rex's skull then they said they burnt the flesh off of it then whitened the bones then...yes, yes sure they did
Yeah but where are those fossils now, surely someone wouldve kept them
Look ma what I killed and ate all by myself.
I've seen people chase the dragon
Jamie Blackman the magic dragon
I chased a dragon for years
Heroin ain’t no joke
Marcell Peterson Ex wife?
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One theory i seen years ago said their skull had containers that could keep liquids seperate, then when fight or flight would kick in they would like sneeze the liquids out and when the meet on contact would combust. Like a certain beetle can do.
Never in my life have I considered the possibility of dragons actually existing, but now that I’m thinking about it more…it actually doesn’t sound THAT crazy. Especially considering the depictions of dragons that span across multiple cultures and societies.
Every depiction of a dragon comes from a story, or a myth, why didn't any historian at the time write about this dragons? If you are writing the story of Alexander, (the anabasis of Alexander by Arrian for example) , shouldn't Alexander have encountered dragons more than once? If he did, why not write about it? If it's because there were just another animal at the time, are you telling me that dragons existed and never attacked an army ? And Where are the fossils of dragons? And when and why people stopped thinking that dragons existed if they had to live with them? I don't think that a dragon is a very forgettable creature...
And all of this without even mentioning the scientific questions, just the logical ones....
@@Name-cz5jj The Japanese army had to abandon Burma because many soldiers were devoured by crocodiles.
That is just the example in the top of my head, if a fucking dragon existed and it's hungry, why not eat some soldiers? And where did he nest? Are you telling me that never s group of soldiers got to close to a dragon nesting zone?
Well consider this. There are almost definitely entire orders of animals completely unknown to science, based on the implied gaps in the fossil record.
Also think about it like this if they did have hollow bones not only would they not fossilize but they would be lighter meaning the possibility of flight was increased. Also It is theorized they did not fart & waste that gas rather save it in their body like another set of lungs & use that methane combined with a spark from them grinding their teeth together to create fire. It is theorized they searched for or a mineral that would cause this spark the same way goats seek out salt
@@geronimogarciazeballos9521 The historian Cassius Dio recorded that the Roman army killed a dragon during the invasion of Carthage and sent the hide to the Roman Senate.
"Are there any stories of dragons..." LMAO! Yeah, just about every single creation myth story in human history.
Right? I can't believe he asked the dumbest question. C'mon Joe tighten up
It's actually very creepy though. The burden of proof that these civilizations communicated somehow, or passed down the same stories someway is just too large. Some weird shit happened for sure
@@thegreatfooch it wouldn't surprise me a bit if they really existed...they probably did
@@thegreatfooch Graham Hancock, dude. His stories about exactly about that (and other amazing facts about ancient cultures. If you do not know him, I highly recommends his chats with Joe.
@@Koffling I've only seen him on with Joe, so I'll definitely have to check out his content, it sounds interesting.
The cowned eagle has in recent history killed human children as 7 years. It kills its prey by swooping down and puncturing its throat or skull. I've used them and a few others as the basis for dragons in my writing. Vultures and other similar birds will spit out stomach acid in self defence. And in most cultures I believe dragons would breathe poison gas or spit acid.
I also throw in some other creatures as inspiration for dragons like bombardier beetles which kill predators with steam and giant deathstalker scorpions which literally spray their kurtoxin at their targets. And plenty more wildly fantasy sounding animals.
I love Joe Rogan cuz he's Just like us. A regular joe. Fascinated by possibilities talking about crazy things.... Man 😎
'Dragons' as a concept isn't that crazy. Some Pterosaurs were the size of a modern day giraffe with massive wings. I believe Quetzalcoatlus was the largest animal to ever fly. Well, according to the fossil record.
Tru, just without fire and extinct since 66 Ma
Joe: “what do you know about dragons?”
Guy: “i don’t know man. Maybe they were real tho”
Joe: 🤯
😂 😂 😂 😂 So true
This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard...if people believed it. This is the same reason why the story of Noah appears throughout different religions by different names. But I always love Joe
Daniel Roberts
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Man looks like a skyrim npc
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Lmao
4:06 you fat fuck, you can't even fly
List of stories about dragons during those times:
Marco Polo's adventures: He talks about the kingdom he visited where they had 2 massive Lizards 30ft, claws like tigers, and a mouth that can swallow a man whole, and were trained like pets to keep around the throne. They even had methods to train them and if they wouldn't oblige they'd decapitate them.
The Dragon Riders in China where they had the massive lizards pull chariots.
The people of Asia who hunted these giant lizards down and would follow their trail and put spears opposite the way they came so the dragons would walk over the spears and lacerate themselves.
If you look in every religion around the world they all have dragons in their stories. Even Frikken Alaska and the Eskimos have dragons in their godman stories. Bibles are just records of what was seen. Unfortunately, a lot gets omitted or changed to benefit the tyrant at the time progressing their own virtues and changing the words.
Humans are known to hunt everything to extinction.
Why wouldn't Dragons be a part of that list?
@trb3230 naaah.... The imagery of Dragon came from China. Hell... Ancient Greeks or Arabs or Turks never had an imagery like that in their mythologies or folk tales. Or in literature etc
passenger pigeons existed in the billions during the 1950s and are now completely extinct. with that example alone i can 100% believe they were real.
Sounds a lot like crocodiles
@@marksinclair6718 crocodiles aren't measured 30ft tall like in the description
@@Dave.Mustaine.Is.Genius Greeks did have depiction of dragons but they didn't breath fire or have wings the were giant serpents with scales like iron.
Dragons turned to soul bonding rather than procreation, so they died out.
I got the rick and Monty reference
Is that you shadow jacker
Slut dragons
I'm a New Zealander. I live in a small city at the top of the south island called Nelson. I went on a school trip over to the Golden Bay which is a 2.5 hour drive west of Nelson. We went on a walk through the national park and found remains of a moa just off the path. It was cool. Also is caves on top of Takaka hill. Huge limestone caves underground at the top of the hill. There are moa bones in there too. Another little story to add is while on another school trip to haast on the west coast of the south island we got told story's about the haast eagle. The local maori think a couple of them are still alive in the mountains of the fiordlands national park which is the bottom west of the south island. The moose he talks about in the podcast is in that area too. Its the most dense bush we have in nz. Some of it never explored.
How you boutta pull a “were dragons real” on me when I’m baked Joe
Reevocon don’t do drugs
InebriatedGamer
poison ivy is a plant. Does that mean I should use it as toilet paper?
InebriatedGamer put down the pot hippie
InebriatedGamer but weed is man made.
Hermit Crabbe I know that. Has it occurred to you that you can watch a video of someone you disagree with??
Job 41 : 15His rows of scales are his pride,
tightly sealed together.
16One scale is so near to another
that no air can pass between them.
17They are joined to one another;
they clasp and cannot be separated.
18His snorting flashes with light,
and his eyes are like the rays of dawn.
19Firebrands stream from his mouth;
fiery sparks shoot forth!
20Smoke billows from his nostrils
as from a boiling pot over burning reeds.
21His breath sets coals ablaze,
and flames pour from his mouth.
22Strength resides in his neck,
and dismay leaps before him.
23The folds of his flesh are tightly joined;
they are firm and immovable.
24His chest is as hard as a rock,
as hard as a lower millstone!
"They weren't actually that big"
"...they stole Maori children"
You ever see how small kids are I could probably go steal a child right now.
@@kekboy5127 You ever seen a Maori? Being 6ft there is considered short.
Modern eagles usually can lift 9 lbs. As someone who was 5 lbs at birth, I'm sure an even larger bird could have stolen baby me.
Prince Vegeta ahh yes but a child is still a child nonetheless a child of 3 years old even a Maori can still probably be taken with ease by an eagle
Perhaps if they did a haka then the intense thigh-slapping and tongue-flicking will discourage aerial predators.
My cousin's out fighting dragons, and what do I get? Guard duty.
if the white run guards can bring down a dragon, we can too
What is it? Dragons?
Got an arrow to your knee? 🤔
Why is believing in Dragons so far fetched? We had dinosaurs
Probably just because of the breathing fire
Isiah Guzman maybe the fire just means they got really bad breathe
jadams customs and krakens were def some giant ass squids
English Dragons and Chinese Dragons are highly unlikely to have existed
It is theorised Dragons came from a mixture of our 3 greatest threats back when we were prey
Birds
Reptiles (snakes mostly)
And Leopards
When you bring them all together, you get a dragon
Killer D how the hell were we prey to birds? And how is a dragon part leopard
In Hollywood movies like Jurassic World, we see dinosaurs brought back from extinction-and hunting us down and eating us alive. And, no doubt, if humans and dinosaurs coexisted, some of that carnage certainly happened. But, for the most part, the opposite was true. We hunted them down and cooked them for dinner. In many of the legends and much of the ancient artwork that is exactly what we find-humans hunting down the giant reptiles and killing them. Lions and tigers and bears did not have it quite as bad as the dinosaurs (hence, they are still around). That is because our ancestors seemed particularly fixated on “slaying the dragon”!
Why does it seem so far-fetched that Dragons actually existed? So many stories, from so many non-connected groups of people, all depicting the same stories... Giants, Dragons, world-wide flood, dinosaurs. All stories told by people on different continents, all unconnected. Seems crazy to doubt.
really ??
Lots of people and cultures shared mythos, mermaids are a biggie and many others too. In terms of dragons, I think it's just a case of plenty of animals that look like dragons (from dinosaurs to marine reptile) were found abd people spun their stories. They used to think megladon teeth were the tongues of serpents for example.
It's a nice story but I very much doubt fire breathing dragons existed as we know them.
@@fawnieee Mermaids are a relatively modern story. Around 1000 B.C. is the first tale and the stories spread with trade around Asia and Europe. There are Dragon stories from all over the world, long before trade routes reached around the world. The stories from South American Tribes, North American Indians, Europeans, Africans, and Asians, all describe similar beasts that resembled what we now know as dinosaurs.
Jason Dougherty I am willing to admit that a real life dragon is 100% possible knowing how little we actually know about the earth before our dominance. Now it is incredibly hard to believe that they could shoot fire but a real animal is 100% possible. A tiny tiny fraction of animals that have ever existed were actually fossilized. So we know that we are missing a lot of the earths history pertaining to living breathing creatures.
@@fawnieee i saw a theory that explained the fire breathing dilemma. What if it was some sort of venom that when irritated the skin and gave the sensation of burning. After many stories and translations people correlated that to fire.
The Flight of Dragons by Peter Dickinson - answered the question "Why would a creature so big need to fly" by turning it around to "Why would a flying animal need to be so big". The hypothesis Dickinson puts out (I think he intends it as pure fantasy) is the dragons were like living dirigibles. They had bird like bones and air sack filled with hydrogen. Occasionally, they had to get rid of some excess hydrogen and exhaled it. To prevent hydrogen build up in their caves they burned the hydrogen when exhaling. See it all makes sense.
It’s not far fetched for something to be massive and flying, literally pterodactyls existed once upon a time also that thing you said about excess gas being expelled literally sounds like burping bruh
They burnt hydrogen with what? A particle accelerator?? Lol
@@TwitchClipzlol Hydrogen is highly flammable.
@@theman4884 how would the dragon manipulate the atoms of hydrogen?
@@TwitchClipzlol Are you trying to ask how the dragon would ignite the hydrogen? Dickinson addressed this. The first thought that would come to mind is an electrical spark. But as Dickinson points out animals that create an electric charge devote a large part of their biology to that power. Think electric eel. However, another possibility, and I can remember if this was the author's or not, would be to have piece of flint and steel in a gizzard like pouch and click them together to produce a spark.
Here is an article you may find entertaining.
www.sciencenewsforstudents.org/article/nature-shows-how-dragons-might-breathe-fire
Joe fat shaming chickens is actually phenomenal 🤣
@Platonic Rainy Careful, if his attitude towards chickens shows you anything, it's that he eats things he calls fat fucks.
I can’t lie if dragons were real we will all literally try to reenact how to train your dragon
Joe needs to have him on again he's done discovered two or three more animals that were basically supposed to be extinct since his last podcast with him I love hearing this guy talk he's just one of the most passionate and dedicated people to his craft that you will ever see absolutely love this guy
Lol... I bet those flying lizards ate what ever we were back in those days... and then the asteroid happened and our subconscious just equated the fire raining down to the flying lizards...
@@zionsky3342 we didnt exist when the mass extinction happened, homo sapiens(us) emerged nearly 300,000 years ago , and early humans first emerged about 2m years ago ,the asteroid hit around 66m years ago , def some crazy shit tho , maybe they were real , who knows.
"Did dragons exist?"
"No."
"Be a lot cooler if they did."
Oh, 100 percent
Do you have any weed?
No
You’d be a lot cooler if you did
Suck my ass
No?
Be alot cooler if they did
@@frankiespankie86 alright alright alright
Puff puff pass
I get drunk and have talks like these with my friends.
Good, because Joe gets high and talk about things.
Same here
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Bombardier beetle can spit fire. It combines two chemicals.
China had positions in their royal court for Royal Dragon Feeders and Royal Dragon Tamers.
The dragons weren’t as big.
Fossils need very specific conditions to form.
When they colonized new areas, they had to drive out the “dragons” that lived there. Dragons included a bunch of different types of creatures. Like reptile, or amphibians.
Every dinosaur was a dragon, but not all dragons were dinosaurs.
Dragons were spoken about, written about, and drawn in the history of dozens and dozens of countries around the world. Everyone knew you had to slay the dragons before you settled in a new area, because they were so terrible and terrifying.
Dinosaur was not a term that was invented until the 1800’s, but the word “dragon” was used all the way through the 1600’s.
“Terrible lizard” was not just a myth. How would ancient people and civilizations know what they looked like? How would they know how to draw them? Why are there drawings on caves, paintings on pottery, carvings on stone walls of ancient buildings.
We think of “dragons” as a very thin narrow thing. But it’s actually much larger than that. Long necks. Long tails. Hard scales, not all could fly. Some were under water sea creatures with large fins and thick skin/bubbler. All of these were considered dragons, or serpents.
If they posed a threat to humans, and were very hard to kill, and the only ones still alive are ones are in areas where humans have not extensively explored, of course they would be difficult to find now, and of course there would be each civilization with their own stories of the knights fighting them.
It’s entirely plausible,especially if we have a larger perspective about what a “dragon” could be or would look like.
Joe: Were dragons real animals?
Forrest: That weed hit pretty nice?
Joe: Oh, 100 percent.
If you think about it pteridactle are dragon's
Isn't Joe Rogan, one-third Italian, one-third Irish, and one-third dragon?
No. Because he's 2/3 of weed.
@@brucelston Don't forget the 1/3 DMT
"Jamie pull that up"
@anonymous , strangely enough, ivory soap, which is only 99 3/4 pure. Where we at with the math now?
Instead of "italian", I mistakenly read "alien"
My ex girl friend was a 115 lb dragon😭
Dolphin amen 🙏
Donkey, is that you?
My dragon is twice the size as yours😂✌
Mine is 145 😌
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the dragon breathing fire is a direct link to the komodo dragon lizards who have so much bacteria in their mouths, that being bitten by one would leave your flesh looking and feeling as if it had been horribly burned
The Anglo Saxons did document large "terror birds" That the armies would repeatedly have to kill because they would devastate their crops.
@John Macmillan That's pretty cool
terror birds scare the shit outta me in ark
That's some bullcrap man. The Anglosaxons were prehistoric (Mesolithic to Neolithic) unless you mean the medieval ones; in which case why haven't the Romans or Frisians reported terrorbirds?
@@choonbox Anglo-Saxons are prehistoric? You're funny.
Dat dere vulture
Im inclinded to believe there is a possibility that what we consider medieval dragons to be actually a potential flying lizard species that were hunted to extinction, the bird bones theory also would (in theory) explain the lack of evidence as well in the fossil record, which itself is a series of guesses just like science, and the fire breathing aspect couldve been a reference to a spitting cobra -like venom that made you feel like your body was on fire, and over the centuries as the stories get told and retold from memory the details change and become more simple or fantastical
So basically, Dragon = Dinosaur.
Naah. We would have scriptures or hand writings about them . We don't.
A lot of history is hidden. Giant fossils have been found and covered up so I wouldn't be surprised if dragon fossil discoveries have been covered up too. There's evidence that dragons and dinosaurs were roaming the earth with humans... its fascinating
Funny enough, the most exquiste fossil records we have are pterosaurs
I mean, what's the point? There is no evidence at all and they also had a big fantasy back then like humans nowadays. Just read all the greek god stories. It's like chilling 1000 years and then people would try to search for Elves because it is written in some book. It's just pointless entertainment. Nothing to do with science.
“Dragons aren’t real!”
Pterodactyl: “am I a joke to you?”
Pterodactyl was not big enough to eat humans. Maybe if it grab an unattended baby. But it's a long way from what these pseudiscientist are claiming.
@Thomas Shannon what?
only the brontisaurus breathed fire
@@lm7_gio Quetzalcoatlus and Hatzegopteryx entered the chat
@Thomas Shannon Did you just say that pterodactyl doesnt exist...?
Just based off on 'dragon' like creatures depicted across many different cultures, I think it probably did exist. But it's probably a language and concept variation, in Chinese culture the dragon is depicted as like a flying snake essentially with four short limbs for crawling while on land. That as a concept is far-fetched for us to imagine, probably doesn't make sense from a physics POV, but that's not to say that a large creature with the necessary apparatus didn't interact with early humans even much later than we believe was possible.
Given that a lot of animals, a HUGE number of animals probably went extinct I don't find it hard to believe that they were real. Perhaps the dragon breathing fire may have been exaggerated and there was some other explanation that the people of that time misinterpreted.
I do however believe dragons were serpents if it is they were real and perhaps had different species like cows in the tropics and temperate zones as well as the many other differing species in the different climates. So it's possible depending on the location there were different dragons and like the different whales one kind may have been a bit dangerous than another. One specie may be able to fly while another may not and can only walk while another cannot walk nor fly.
All of this is filled with assumptions but it is crazy that many cultures have these creatures that has similar main traits similar stories of them. Like many of our prehistoric animals dragon might as well have been real, the possibility is endearing.
@@misachitachibana7214the bombardier beetle expels an ignitable liquid that catches when it hits the air.
It's possible that a species could have a dual function gas, hydrogen, assisting in flight, and igniting in air
“I don’t believe dragons killed people”
Joe: “but it’d be so much cooler if they did” 🤦🏻♂️😂
1:15 Best part
Guest: “Yeah dragons existed blah blah...”
Joe: “......whuuuuuut.....? 😦”
*Takes a big hit*
What if stories of dragons are just the remains of a previous civilization that was aware dinosaurs existed?
Wow .....or they found the bones of dinosaurs
'Dragon" is ancient Atlantean for "dinosaur". Sweet.
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Or maybe dinosaurs lived alongside man
Ooooooo I said it oh there are also human tracks and dinosaur tracks found fossilized in the same rock and other mammals as well
To be fair, Joe Rogan as a Dragon Slayer or tamer would be pretty badass looking.
I wonder if, just maybe, some sort of strange flying lizard creature that existed in all these places (which seems likely given their extremely common depictions in unrelated countries) might’ve had some sort of acidic defense mechanism. Like, some weird combustible chemical that they would spit in order to scare off predators. And that’s why dragons “breathe fire”. Maybe they didn’t literally breathe flames from their mouths, but instead spat some kind of juice that would burn or combust, kinda like a mix of a bombardier beetle and one of those puking baby hawks or whatever.
Lol... I bet those flying lizards ate what ever we were back in those days... and then the asteroid happened and our subconscious just equated the fire raining down to the flying lizards...
We have lizards that shoot venom or acid.
It's not to far fetched to say it was combustible, especially if they shoot towards a torch wielding knight.
If Dinosaurs can be agreed upon, Dragons aren't to crazy.
Horned Horses was probably necessary when combating these flying beasts.
"Greek fire"
@@jasonpelto1164
I like that theory
So.e type of secretion with a high mineral content, from glands in their mouths? Maybe 2 to 4 separate glands, with 2 separate secretions, that react with each other and the oxygen in the air... VIOLENTLY.
The patron saint of England is called Saint George. He was famous for slaying a dragon. The flag of England is called The Saint George Cross 🏴
@fredirecko it’s just because dragons are awesome 😎🏴🐉 I still can’t decide if I prefer western or eastern dragon bodies 🤔
A lot of bullshit came from England relax
Joe "its entirely possible that dragons did DMT" Rogan
Koi Vu This deserves WAY more likes!
We literally have a living example of of an animal with two chemicals stored in his body that, when combined, explode…enter the bombardier beetle.