BWV 913 - Toccata in D Minor (Scrolling)

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  • @xlatheblackdragon705
    @xlatheblackdragon705 6 місяців тому +5

    Harpsichord is so good. Can not get the same satisfaction on the piano when it comes to Bach

  • @str3123
    @str3123 11 років тому +54

    The adagio contains some very ambitious chords progressions... Despite the image of strict formality is usually teached regarding Bach, you may not rarely find something which I don't think any standard manual of classical harmony covers. Creativity at its finest levels goes way beyond the form... Power of Bach!

    • @Tizohip
      @Tizohip 5 років тому

      str3123 1:04 beethoven 9 symphony '-'

    • @jamallabarge2665
      @jamallabarge2665 4 роки тому +3

      Mr Bach was one of those really bright people who would go out into his mind, find the coolest things, then bring them back. He did not do so to boast but to share them.
      I am told that Mr. Bach was a musician's musician. He spoke to his peers in a special way.

    • @jamallabarge2665
      @jamallabarge2665 4 роки тому +2

      One of his children or students spoke of Bach listening to others, predicting a solution, then giving a gentle poke in the ribs to punctuate his point.
      I suspect that millions of people have felt ghostly pokes in the rib since Mr Bach was called away to other places.

    • @TheRobTV
      @TheRobTV Рік тому +4

      Bach didn't follow harmony rules. He created them.

    • @dudaz_music
      @dudaz_music Рік тому

      @@TheRobTVwell said

  • @guidoscur
    @guidoscur 11 років тому +63

    Trevor Pinnock is such a great harpsichordist.

  • @iroveashe
    @iroveashe 7 років тому +27

    the adagio is so devastating

  • @ProdigyImprovisation
    @ProdigyImprovisation 3 роки тому +10

    Wow!! It’s almost like you can already tell that Bach started immediately writing the BWV913 right after finishing BWV912. It’s almost like a sequel, following the same style of characteristics as the previous work number! Bach didn’t completely drain it out of his system just yet!! Stunning!

    • @user-fu7zf4ck9z
      @user-fu7zf4ck9z 2 роки тому

      I think this is the earliest written one. This toccata definitely sounds like it was written first to me. Very reminiscent of very early Bach pieces like the Capriccio B-flat major. The d major toccata sounds a bit more mature to me

  • @composer318
    @composer318 4 роки тому +9

    Toccata - 0:14
    Adagio - 1:02
    Fugue - Presto - 2:53
    Adagio - 6:05
    Fugue? - Allegro - 10:04

  • @lohphat
    @lohphat 8 років тому +47

    This convinces me that sight-reading is a black art.
    My astigmatism hates me.

    • @jamesrockybullin5250
      @jamesrockybullin5250 7 років тому +5

      I'm an astigmatic and love to play through these toccatas! It's not impossible. Keep trying.

    • @Tizohip
      @Tizohip 5 років тому

      1:04 beethoven 9 symphony '-'

    • @ranchoelchamusquito3683
      @ranchoelchamusquito3683 4 роки тому +9

      @@jamesrockybullin5250 come on, toccatas are written to be concert show off pieces, not to play through them reading them at first sight even if you are a good sight reader, I doubt you could sight read a bach's toccata for the first time in front of an audience and get people to enjoy what you are playing

    • @jamesrockybullin5250
      @jamesrockybullin5250 4 роки тому +5

      @@ranchoelchamusquito3683 You're right. I just like to play through them for my own pleasure.

    • @laurencegray4720
      @laurencegray4720 4 роки тому +2

      Yes, astigmatism does make it difficult to sight read music (speaking from experience). Not only do I have astigmatism but I am also near sighted and must wear tri-focals.

  • @walterbishop3668
    @walterbishop3668 3 роки тому +3

    Father doesn't stop giving . Thank u Bach and uploader

  • @Nooticus
    @Nooticus 3 роки тому +5

    The final fugue is beyond incredible!

    • @incription
      @incription 2 роки тому +3

      there is no fugues?

    • @aimilios439
      @aimilios439 Рік тому

      ​@@incription They mean the clear fugal passage Bach manages to shove in almost any piece he composes.

    • @incription
      @incription Рік тому

      @@aimilios439 Oh i see.

    • @TheRobTV
      @TheRobTV Рік тому

      It's more like a two voice canon

    • @Philobach
      @Philobach 8 місяців тому

      les deux fugues

  • @anisometropie
    @anisometropie 11 років тому +13

    that temperament is super hardcore :)

    • @xbqchm
      @xbqchm 7 років тому +4

      Very, very good. Makes it sound 100% baroque.

    • @欺软怕硬
      @欺软怕硬 Рік тому

      Maybe that's what makes the 123 chord works so well in the last fugue. I definitely think this is one of his best pieces, second only to the chromatic fantasia. I can't find where he uses that chord anywhere else though.

  • @horacioorlandini3753
    @horacioorlandini3753 Рік тому +1

    Gracias gerubach por poder disfrutar no solo de la extrordinaria musica de bach, sino poder leerla, gracias de verdad

  • @rafeverao4105
    @rafeverao4105 4 роки тому +6

    Opening with a round of fifths, a bold move.

  • @TheGentleUncle
    @TheGentleUncle 8 років тому +25

    A video with 0 dislikes. Impressive!

    • @dialsforstupid
      @dialsforstupid 7 років тому +4

      TheGentleUncle Literally one person screwed it over... :(

    • @lidyasinaga
      @lidyasinaga 5 років тому

      @@dialsforstupid 6 now :(

    • @MarcusHK1
      @MarcusHK1 5 років тому +2

      7 dislikes, but 7 likes for your comment, so all in all it's even.

    • @timheavner6293
      @timheavner6293 3 роки тому +1

      You jinxed it.

    • @TheGentleUncle
      @TheGentleUncle 3 роки тому +5

      @@timheavner6293 Yes, I am sorry, I was young and stupid.

  • @marcelodarochalyra5684
    @marcelodarochalyra5684 3 роки тому +3

    BACH É UM SHOW DE HABILIDADES NA MÚSICA E SEM IGUAL NA HISTÓRIA!

    • @Tizohip
      @Tizohip 2 роки тому

      Com certeza.

  • @5616cherry
    @5616cherry 8 років тому +5

    Amazing! Pure genius.

  • @incription
    @incription Рік тому +2

    I can't help but the presto theme in the toccata ends so suddenly, it's like the build up to an intro... And then the piece just ends

    • @Philobach
      @Philobach 8 місяців тому

      écoutez par Glenn Gould et vous verrez que c est beaucoup plus lent, c est mieux.

  • @kingfire111
    @kingfire111 11 років тому +4

    I agree. But perhaps it is the choice of instrument. These streams of light staccato do sound better on harpsichord.

  • @derpymcderpell
    @derpymcderpell 5 років тому +8

    The third movement reminds me of Vivaldi's Concerto Grosso in D Minor!

    • @CR33SIVE
      @CR33SIVE 3 роки тому

      i was wondering why it sounded so familiar

    • @TheRobTV
      @TheRobTV Рік тому

      If you study both composers. Bach was heavily influenced by Vivaldi.

  • @elemusic19
    @elemusic19 10 місяців тому +1

    7:34 might be the creepiest bit of baroque music in existence.

  • @horacioorlandini5119
    @horacioorlandini5119 5 років тому +2

    Se agradece mucho el gerubach las partituras muchas gracias

  • @snowcarriagechengcheng-hun3454
    @snowcarriagechengcheng-hun3454 7 місяців тому

    Thanks for uploading!

  • @charlesdavis7087
    @charlesdavis7087 4 роки тому +2

    It would have made more sense if he had been played it little more slowly... at times. Flexibility. Form vs rigidity. Interesting question. The ability to convey emotional content... is all important here. Tempo must not be just fix... but flexible. And yet, bar lines do serve a purpose. Listen and be free. Retire and "cease ye from your labors." J. C. Joy... remember what it sound like? Bach liked to stretch our understanding of what really is Harmony. And, obviously, he did. But the process... mental process of stretching... is still going on. Is it not?
    Excellence lives. Thank you for sharing.

    • @zefix3133
      @zefix3133 4 роки тому

      No pls no emotional content in baroque music

  • @Tizohip
    @Tizohip 5 років тому +7

    13:34 omg

  • @Tizohip
    @Tizohip 5 років тому +3

    1:04 the chord in open of 4 th movement in beethoven's 9 symphony

    • @sikroboskop3121
      @sikroboskop3121 3 роки тому +1

      Nah it's just a b flat major chord, beethoven's is a b flat on top of an a minor

  • @Philobach
    @Philobach 4 роки тому

    je suis habitué à un presto à 9:49 bien plus lent avec glenn gould, que je préfère. les deux fugues sont pour moi le meilleur. j' ai toujours été sous le charme de ces toccatas plus qu' extraordinaires .

  • @Carvin0
    @Carvin0 5 років тому +2

    Loved it! For my taste the Adagio could've been a tad livelier.

  • @TempodiPiano
    @TempodiPiano 3 роки тому +1

    Splendid. I am looking for another work by JS Bach to study after Inventions, Sinfonien, WTC and the Italian concerto... maybe a Toccata. The English Suites sound difficult for my fingers.

    • @user-fu7zf4ck9z
      @user-fu7zf4ck9z 3 роки тому +1

      These toccatas are pretty hard

    • @TempodiPiano
      @TempodiPiano Рік тому

      @@user-fu7zf4ck9z I have played the e minor.

  • @jackeddemon
    @jackeddemon 11 років тому +9

    I don't think Gould's version is quite as good as this.

  • @joshcortezmusic8697
    @joshcortezmusic8697 Рік тому

    0:51 AHHAAAH his interpretation of this d harmonic minor scale always cracks me up. It just sounds like an abrupt fart. 💨😂

  • @Leitilumo
    @Leitilumo 7 років тому +6

    13:00

  • @user-fu7zf4ck9z
    @user-fu7zf4ck9z 3 роки тому +2

    The beginning sounds like a pedal solo

  • @riverstun
    @riverstun 5 років тому

    The opening phrase sounds like part of the "toccata and fugue" in d. Wonder if he repurposed it. If so, it confirms that Bach wrote the latter.

    • @alexa174
      @alexa174 3 роки тому

      That melodic pattern (where the melody jumps up and down and one of the two pitches remains stable) was very popular in the Baroque period and especially in Bach's early works - I am certain you could find plenty of other examples that resemble BWV 565 far more than this one. Personally, I would point you towards the subject of the fugue in a minor, BWV 543. In other words, the answer is probably no.
      Hope that helps.

  • @malumbomwansa9628
    @malumbomwansa9628 Рік тому

    The Toccata For Keyboards
    BWV 913
    In Re Minor
    Keyboard Colors
    First Keyboard:Green
    Second Keyboard: Purple
    Third Keyboard:Dark Pink
    Fourth Keyboard: Medium Green
    Fifth Keyboard:Light Grey
    Sixth Keyboard/Pedals:Blue

  • @TheRobinj13
    @TheRobinj13 Рік тому +1

    Pinnock! ❤️

  • @malcolmbojangles265
    @malcolmbojangles265 5 років тому +1

    opening sounds like the BWV 549 pedal intro

  • @MrMiguelangelb
    @MrMiguelangelb 8 років тому +1

    Merci

  • @АлександрЯрков-ш2з
    @АлександрЯрков-ш2з 5 років тому

    Браво

  • @literaine6550
    @literaine6550 Рік тому

    This is so full of joy, working on this one!!

  • @louiscouperin3731
    @louiscouperin3731 4 роки тому +1

    What if this was played on organ?

  • @christianindividual4550
    @christianindividual4550 Рік тому +1

    4:41 Quintessential Bach in the highest and lowest voices of this short passage.

    • @Philobach
      @Philobach 6 місяців тому

      En effet . Bach est très fort il se faufile partout..... J'ai toujours adoré ces toccatas , leur beauté bien sûr , mais aussi leur écriture subtile .

    • @christianindividual4550
      @christianindividual4550 6 місяців тому

      ​​@@Philobach
      Well said, Mr. Phil.
      I strongly agree.

  • @giorgosmalefas170
    @giorgosmalefas170 11 років тому +1

    which*

  • @tunabilgin4331
    @tunabilgin4331 11 років тому +1

    2.Adagio espressivo

  • @CarlBowlby
    @CarlBowlby 4 роки тому

    Bach never explicitly stated that his Toccatas were strictly for the harpsichord. It was left up to the performer and what keyboard instrument was available. I think I would prefer this on the organ. And tbh I’m not a big fan of the harpsichord...though there are a few harpsichord instruments I like when they’re mellow sounding and not tinny like this one.

    • @user-fu7zf4ck9z
      @user-fu7zf4ck9z 2 роки тому +2

      These seven toccatas (BWV910-916) are kind of written with harpsichord in mind. There are lot of passages and indications (especially in the g minor one) that indicate the use of two manuals, so clavichord can be ruled out. The beginnings of some of the toccatas (like the d minor and the e minor) sound like they used to be pedal passages, which probably means they were written that way for performance on a keyboard without pedals, because otherwise he would’ve just written them more monophonic and with less range. A lot of arpeggios are also written as broken chords, this technique isn’t played on organ at all, chords are most of the time sustained or slowly broken up. These pieces, the 16 concerto transcriptions and the clavier übung 2 (= italian concerto and french overture) are the only Bach pieces that kind of specifically ask for a harpsichord. Every other keyboard piece is for sure not meant to be tied to the harpsichord only. I personally think most of the WTC1 sounds better on organ!!

    • @CarlBowlby
      @CarlBowlby 2 роки тому

      @@user-fu7zf4ck9z thanks for saying that you feel that the WTC sounds best on organ! Being an organist myself I have not tried it on the organ. I think I will do so now thanks to your comment!

    • @user-fu7zf4ck9z
      @user-fu7zf4ck9z 2 роки тому +1

      @@CarlBowlby youre welcome!! I really think pieces like the f minor, e-flat minor, e-flat major, b-flat minor, e minor, C sharp minor (especially the fugue) and surprisingly the c major prelude and fugues from the WTC1 were written with the organ in mind. The long sustained notes support this as well and at least one piece in the WTC1 was definitely written for a pedal instrument: prelude and fugue in a minor, as its literally impossible to play the Orgelpunkt at the end with the hands only. I really recommend playing the pieces I mentioned on organ, so have fun!

    • @CarlBowlby
      @CarlBowlby 2 роки тому

      @@user-fu7zf4ck9z thanks so much, I most definitely will play these on the organ. Do you play the organ yourself?

    • @user-fu7zf4ck9z
      @user-fu7zf4ck9z 2 роки тому

      @@CarlBowlby I do very occasionally, but to do it more regularly. I'm not to keen on playing the harpsichord, I played the Spinett once and it was a very strange experience, and I kind of have to admit that I like revival harpsichords (like the one played by Karl Richter) more than historical ones, which seems to be a pretty unpopular opinion. The organ is less divisive and more satisfying thankfully. What I really want to play someday is the clavichord as that is said to be Bach's favorite keyboard instrument, so I wonder what his Clavier works sound on there

  • @Asiek
    @Asiek 3 роки тому

    9:05

  • @composer318
    @composer318 3 роки тому

    10:32

  • @giorgosmalefas170
    @giorgosmalefas170 11 років тому +1

    There isn't a bach's piece in wich Gould's version is not the best. Simply.