HolyPetRalich I’ve owned a mechanical keyboard and I was never a fan of it, I just prefer membrane. But I mean if some people are better with mechanical then I gues
+Lada, They could put some mechanical switches in them. For some reason, mechanical keyboards increase my WPM by 10 compared to a membrane, and unlike most membrane keyboards, mechanical keyboards have a faster response time, mainly to do with games that have a skill check in which you have to mash a key on demand at random. I tend to realise that the skill check is registered instantaneous on a mechanical keyboard whereas a rubber done keyboard would take a split second, and that has saved my arse so many times when my reaction speed wasn't spot on.
Randomfrankp, you really shouldn't be confused about this product, at all. Razer already has mechanical keyboards that cover almost every aspect of what one would want in a keyboard. What would be the point of making this also a mechanical keyboard when they already have the Huntsman, the Black Widow Chroma, and the Ornata, with variations of each, among other keyboards? Where would this keyboard fit among those? It doesn't really have anything to offer. However, there is one demographic that Razer hasn't catered to yet, and those are the people that actually want a membrane keyboard. Yes, they do exist. So, in order to target that market demographic, to cover all ends of the consumer spectrum, they created this Cynosa. Even knowing all of the subjective and objective benefits to a mechanical keyboard, some people, including myself, want something that is soft and quiet to type on. Membrane being exactly that as they have a rubber layer underneath, so that the hard plastic key cap doesn't bottom out with a "clack", but rather, almost no sound at all, depending on how hard you type. Some of us don't like being loud and obnoxious for the sake of typing feel. Some of us might also live with other people that we are trying to be considerate of and courteous toward, since most mechanical keyboards are loud enough, especially in homes with hard floors, to keep someone awake at night. And honestly, I've tried multiple mechanical keyboards, and I personally don't feel any advantage using them over a membrane keyboard, again, aside from typing feel. My gaming isn't improved, I don't win any more than I did before, I just win louder. A mechanical would be nice, during the day, in an environment where no one cares about the sound, in fact, where I work, everyone has their own mechanical keyboard, but it makes the office an annoying hell listening to everyone clicking and clacking away, but since I work during the day, that means that I game at night, and where I live, night-time is quiet time, where membrane reigns supreme. I want the individual RGB lighting, the underglow is nice too with the Pro, but I also want soft and quiet. This keyboard is perfect for those like me. Hard to believe, maybe, but we do exist and this is who this keyboard was made for.
Thank you! This summs it up perfectly. I understand the arguments behind mechanical keyboards, but it feels like a lot of the gaming community doesn't even consider allowing some people to not want to use one. Mechanical keyboards, though undeniably good, come with some cons that I myself can't overlook: - they often feel uncomfortably high for me - they're too loud even for myself, not to mention when someone is sleeping in the same room Sure, you can counter these two by telling me to buy specific switches and keyboards with a low profile, but that leaves the higher price of mechs when compared to membranes, and the pro-mech marketing mantra of "but durability" is simply more annoying than true in my experience. At any rate, more to the point on the video - I found myself looking for a midrange quality keyboard that isn't loud, which is how I went to try out Razer Ornata in a shop. Still a bit loud, but quite enjoyable, lead me to research the subject more, and finding a similar membrane one (and I'm not gonna lie - I kinda like how their rgb presets work with, for example, Overwatch) was exactly what I was looking for. If Cynosa had Ornata's wristrest I'm pretty sure I'd be ordering it already.
Not sure who you are responding to here, but why are you asking if someone is insane and why do you think a mechanical keyboard is a hindrance when gaming. I only ask, because most gamers would argue the opposite.
ahh i've been waiting for this ever since i tweeted you haha thank you so much for this, Frank! I think I'll go with the regular $60 version, the extra $20 for another light doesn't really matter too much.
hey frank I've had the "LAG" issue in my blackwidow chroma and i contacted Razer about it it happens sometimes you just need to make a new profile in synapse or just uninstall and reinstall synapse hope this helped! love you man merry christmas!
Most of these comments literally are just about how another brand is better or worse. This guy only uploads reviews, he doesn’t do anything to deserve these shitty comments. It’s your opinion on what keyboard is better or worse. Razer is its own company which is a bit more stylish. Corsair is more performance wise. Logitech is... idk I never had one so... but no on e cares if you have a Razer or if you are going to buy a Logitech/Corsair.
@@HxCxDxE razer is a company in which the only good things they sell are really on the top of the price range and not very justifiable. I do own a razer huntsman, it is really good ngl but definitely could've gone the same experience with far cheaper alternatives
Sews Gaming I would be disappointed tho if they dont make a different design. And the Razer team now got nothing to work on. I know they were working a lot on the phone.
I think that this and the Ornata exist simultaneously so that people have a very quiet option. Since the entire mechanical side of the Ornata is about giving auditory and tactile feedback, Razer is essentially giving you a the entry-level equivalent of a Brown switch board in the Cynosa and a Blue switch board in the Ornata.
Get yourself an actual mechanical keyboard instead of this membrane keyboard. If you can get past the RGB lights and the brand, there are plenty of mechanical keyboards for less with single color backlighting.
miigs, K551 VARA by Redragon ($40) CORSAIR K55 RGB (Membrane, $49) KG010 by EagleTec ($40) Outemu Velocifire ($37) AUKEY w/ Blue Switches ($42) Basically, anything that is from an Asian company can be mechanical and backlit for a lower price. If you want a similar keyboard from a known brand, the Corsair keyboard is RGB with membrane switches for $20 less.
I've been working professionally in IT for almost 10 years now and being that 20% that you described as being inexperienced with keyboards, I actually like this keyboard and the less clicky sounds. I prefer the membrane keys. But whatever, I'll be over here making that money being clueless. . . .
i know it's 11 months old, work in IT as well, weird for him to call us inexperienced, i've transitioned to membrane as well, the clicky sounds drive me nutts, i find mechanical keyboards i've used them a bunch for some years.
Fanuel not IT but I am aspiring, I agree that membrane keyboards are better for me. My Apex 7 from steelseries constantly mistyped and messed me up in games, because it pressed down with barely any force and actuated at 2.0 instead of full travel.
Personally I was looking for a quiet keyboard that had great response... it's in a office environment that will also be used for casual gaming. It (the Cynosa) sounds VERY nice. I personally don't like tactile response keys. I bought the yellow switch version of the Black Widow V2 for just that reason. But the noise was still a little clacky, plus having such a short activation time vs travel distance to bottom, I ended up using double o-rings to soften the clack and shorten the bottom-out. I'm going to pick one of these up... thanks so much for your review. **Since using rubber-dome (membrane) keyboards confuse you in this day and age: Membrane keyboards are not bad, they are just meant for specific environments. Not everyone needs to know every clackity-clack of your key-presses. Where silence is golden (coffee shops, libraries, call centers, offices, reception areas, etc), membrane keyboards will always be necessary. I'm personally VERY glad Razer could come up with a design for membranes that have a decent response to allow for expanded usage for the casual gamer.
The ripple effect isn't laggy for my Cynosa, so if that is a factor that has stopped you from buying the keyboard, dont worry it's a great keyboard feels amazing for the $50 price tag.
Dude! I am a fan of membrane! I am also a user of mechanical switches! I was a person who wanted to get into the gaming peripherals, I started with the Logitech G105, which was a rubber dome switch.... I absolutely loved it, so much so that I recently picked up another one! I now have 7 different gaming keyboards from different eras and I have two more on the way! My absolute favorite is definitely the Razer Lycosa! I tried it at my friend's house and the rubber coated keys are unique! Also, thank you so much RandomFrankP! You have introduced me to many different keyboards that I had never knew I wanted!!!!
Got it for Christmas and wow its a great keyboard. I just wanted it for the under-glow which looks really cool in the dark. Don’t use it for gaming at all, just for regular pc use.
A really good review thanks, I love this keyboard and am glad I watched this video to see if it was worth it, and its perfect for me. I love those types of keyboards which are rainbow, and have split leveling, underglow, and customizeable lighting. This keyboard has all that, and I get to see this fabulous review of it! Thank you.
Randomfrankp the keyboard in the description is not the Pro. Don’t know if you are aware of this, just wanted to mention it so that people don’t get confused and buy the wrong one.
I hate how nobody is able to get over the stigma against membrane switches. Yes, I understand that many people, the majority of people in fact, prefer the tactile feedback that a mechanical keyboard gives you. However, choosing a keyboard is ALL about personal preference. You can say that a certain switch will have better gaming performance or a nicer typing experience, but that is still dependent on the person and their style. I personally prefer the feel of membrane or mecha-membrane switches. Does it effect my typing or gaming? No. Does it mean that I am "not experienced with keyboards" or "have not used a mechanical keyboard in the past" as randomfrankp is suggesting? No. I have used several keyboards including regular mechanical keyboards from brands such as Razer and Corsair. I can see why people like them. Doesn't change the fact that I still prefer my Razer Deathstalker that I've been using for several years without issue. I am thrilled that Razer and some other big brands are finally coming out with more premium keyboards for this market. I've waited so long for something that I can upgrade to, so keyboards like the Cynosa and the Ornata are a perfect for me.
FYI... the Azio MKG-1 is the same price as this, it is mechanical (not cherry, but this shouldn't matter much), it is RGB, and is made of brushed aluminum vs this KB's plastic build. Why do I say it doesn't matter if it's Cherry? Because I have a couple Corsair (K70, K65, K70 RGB) keyboards with Cherry Blue, Brown and Red switches, I've tried 3 other keyboards that use non-Cherry Blue, Black and Red switches. Those "Chinese" or whatever you wanna call them, keyboards (E-Element, Azio, Ajazz) feel almost exactly the same!!! In my personal experience, once you try mechanical switches, you just cannot go back to rubber-dome membrane switches. The difference in typing feel is night and day!
more actuation force needed, Mushy feeling, Kinda late when responding, and feels like u could kill it in an instant especially if u rage sp hard..... In short just no plss just buy a brown switch and add O-rings if you want silent and kinda mushy
Because it's the trend to love mechanical keyboards, since they are more expensive.. If people were honest with themselves they'd agree that the good or bad "feel" means different things to different people.
@@7Wolfleader no, we hate bad membrane keyboards and expensive membrane keyboards. There are some really good membrane keyboards for like $30 if you look hard enough, but they are very rare. And for $40 - $50 you can get a mechanical keyboard from a Chinese company... So why would anyone ever buy a membrane keyboard anymore. Mechanical Keyboards are getting cheaper as time goes on too, so membranes are slowly just becoming what you use when you have nothing else.
Got the Cynosa Chroma for 45 dollars in March of 2020. Jesus Christ it was an amazing deal. Keys are incredibly quiet (probably because I don't press that hardly when I type, but still), lighting is gorgeous, etc.. Personally, I find nothing wrong with it.
i just went from a redragon kumara to the cynosa chroma(non pro). the feel of this keyboard is great. the actuation of the buttons aren't shabby and the sound is worlds different.... practically silent. the keys spring back up very well and i have yet to push a button and not have it recognized right away. for the $80 cad that this keyboard costs (walmart) you could get many different kinds of keyboards but this one forsure is not a bad choice.
@Filipe Azadinho lmao it doesn't feel anything like mechanical keyboard LOL only keyboard that is similar to mechanic keyboard is Mecha Membrane like Razer ornata chroma they sound alot like cherry mx blue
why do people hate membrane? as far as I'm concerned, I want silent keys and a good feel, membrane has always provided this and I've found mechanical to be too loud or too flimsy feeling
I just switched to this from a black widow and I think it’s pretty good. The mechanical switches on the black widow were to load and therefor my parents could hear me when I’m trying to sneak play games or do shit at night
MUFSpoiler m8 that's so untrue... Mass effect andromeda and battlefield 1 both have full support so please know what you're talking about before trying to prove a point with "facts".
Halo AE no crap, I mean, a cheapo overpriced rubber dome keyboard vs a (still overpriced) high quality mechanical keyboard CANNOT compare. It's actually unfair to make that comparison.
Mech vs. Membrane is subjective.... "20% of people don't care" is a silly unfounded statement. I've tried mech keyboards with Blues, Browns, Reds & even blacks..... although I personally feel more comfortable with linear keys, membrane keyboards always feel better for my aggressive and forceful game play, I also appreciate the noise level to minimum when gaming away late at night. For gaming, my response and performance has not been impacted by changing keyboards around but typing however is a different story.
I’m quite confused about your criticism on the Ripple lighting effect “lag” or whatever you call it. I have this same keyboard and it doesn’t have this issue at all, and yes you can adjust the speed and how fluent you want it to move. I’m guessing you didn’t play with the software much?
Usual membrane keyboard 30$.... It's expensive huh? But having a Razer logo on it you will buy it for 80$.... Kids who don't know anything about keyboard and they want Razer to tell their friends that they got one.
i got razers blackwidow chroma x te because razer looks the best. Corsair has the highest overall quality and steelseries and logitech are the budget to quality sweetspot and azio, reddragon, ect are cheap but good enough
Ahaha usual membrane keyboard around 30$? Red Dragon K552 (or 1) Kumar is a Mechanical keyboard with Oatemu Blue switches that sells for about 30$. Ugh, people who buy this keyboard are just retarded. You're not going to be spending your time gazing into the rgb of your keyboard now are you? Keyboards are valued for tactility not visual impressions. I do like rgb but this level of rgb craze is just seriously getting overboard.
acctually corsair keyboards are an overpriced gaming product as well compared to proper mech keyboard enthusiast brands which even come with pbt keycaps from the factory
Honestly... if your gaming online, no matter how fast your key-press gets to your CPU, it's always going to be bottle-necked by your connection to the servers. Aside from that, the responsiveness of keys is (as T W E R K indicated) a personal preference. I personally don't like click or tactile response... so I went with the Black Widow v2 with yellow switches. They have a shallow response time with smooth travel... this feels very nice when gaming, though it doesn't help land the kill-shots quicker in MMO-PVP games. Hope that helps. As far as I seen from other users of the Cynosa, they've said it does very well at gaming, so if noise is an issue, this could be a good solution.
What's wrong with membrane? I dont get the big deal. My dilemma is choosing either the blackwidow chroma v2 with orange switches or this bad boy. Thoughts? (Only difference is 5 macros, mechanical keyboard vs membrane, a wrist rest and $100)
"As an Keyboard enthusiast, you're not gonna be a fan of rubberdome switches, that's just a fact". LOL . This guy doesn't know what he's talking about. Me and a fellow IBM employee have tested over hundred types of keyboards. And in the end I prefer Rubberdome and he prefers a hybrid spring switch(Which is a spring that taps on membrane at the end btw). This guy needs some serious research when making bold statements like this...
The Razer Ornata is such a better keyboard. I have it, my previous keyboard was the Corsair K55 and even though I am a huge Corsair fanboy, I have to say, this razer keyboard is truly amazing. This keyboard is pretty much the razer form of the k55 except the ornata has WAY more lighting options and has mecha-membrane switches which gives you the best of both worlds when it comes to membrane and mechanical clicky switches.
its not that good i have had it for 1 week now and i dont game a lot but the hours that i have gamed the wasd keys are already showing use sounds most noticiable
Friend from school? Is that you? Seriously, there are silent keyswitches and dental bands/O-rings, you could combine a Cherry MX Silent with a O-ring to make it quiet, just do some research
I just bought mine a few days ago for my music production studio. Very quiet keyboard for late night sessions with per-key RGB for 60€, what more do you need.
I bought a blackwidow a few months back with yellow switches. Its fine but im having a hard time adjusting to mechanical keys. Im sure there are other ones with more tactile feedback but i just dont like it. Missing my old membrane one. Thinking about picking this one up and sell my blackwidow
They should put macros on the right and remove the number keys on the right! So you can have ur mouse closer to ur keyboard but still have a lot of keys!
yea ive never used a mechanical (ive used a macbook air for gaming for like 3 years fml) but now that im thinking of getting a gaming pc and keyboard i want to go with a mechanical cuz theyre overall just better from what ive seen in videos and reviews many many times
Ripple is not sipposed to do that, there may be an issue with either your pc, software, or keyboard, or the speed is to slow, but it is supposed to be very smooth.
You might as well buy the alienware keyboard for another 10$. It has a underglow as well(with better quality) and it generally feels good. The only flaw is its not indiviaully lit for the keys, it has 14 regions
I personally wouldn't touch anything made by Razer with a long stick based on what I've heard about Deathadders and these reviews. Although the Deathstalker is ok since there's not a lot of those really low profile keyboards out there(but the price on it is kinda steep tho).
although I like mechanical sounds, being a first-time buyer for a keyboard, i would prefer to buy this as its cheaper than the ornata chroma, im also on a budget so thats another reason why im getting this keyboard. plus the fact im a sucker for RGB XD
Actually, i used alot of keyboards, i play a lot of games and still i like membrane keybords better. I use my mechanic for typing and stuff just because i like the sound of it. But for gaming... only membrane. So i'm really happy to hear that Cynosa Pro is a membrane keyboard. It's my own preference so don't hate. :D
Back in my day, “pro” meant better performance or more speed, now “pro” means added lighting lol..
I mean, how can you improve a keyboard's speed or performance? :D
Lada. Lots of ways actually, changing the keyboards keys (mechanical) and stuff like that.
HolyPetRalich I’ve owned a mechanical keyboard and I was never a fan of it, I just prefer membrane. But I mean if some people are better with mechanical then I gues
+Lada, They could put some mechanical switches in them. For some reason, mechanical keyboards increase my WPM by 10 compared to a membrane, and unlike most membrane keyboards, mechanical keyboards have a faster response time, mainly to do with games that have a skill check in which you have to mash a key on demand at random.
I tend to realise that the skill check is registered instantaneous on a mechanical keyboard whereas a rubber done keyboard would take a split second, and that has saved my arse so many times when my reaction speed wasn't spot on.
Lada. Google the razer huntsman, thats how
Randomfrankp, you really shouldn't be confused about this product, at all. Razer already has mechanical keyboards that cover almost every aspect of what one would want in a keyboard. What would be the point of making this also a mechanical keyboard when they already have the Huntsman, the Black Widow Chroma, and the Ornata, with variations of each, among other keyboards? Where would this keyboard fit among those? It doesn't really have anything to offer. However, there is one demographic that Razer hasn't catered to yet, and those are the people that actually want a membrane keyboard. Yes, they do exist. So, in order to target that market demographic, to cover all ends of the consumer spectrum, they created this Cynosa.
Even knowing all of the subjective and objective benefits to a mechanical keyboard, some people, including myself, want something that is soft and quiet to type on. Membrane being exactly that as they have a rubber layer underneath, so that the hard plastic key cap doesn't bottom out with a "clack", but rather, almost no sound at all, depending on how hard you type. Some of us don't like being loud and obnoxious for the sake of typing feel. Some of us might also live with other people that we are trying to be considerate of and courteous toward, since most mechanical keyboards are loud enough, especially in homes with hard floors, to keep someone awake at night.
And honestly, I've tried multiple mechanical keyboards, and I personally don't feel any advantage using them over a membrane keyboard, again, aside from typing feel. My gaming isn't improved, I don't win any more than I did before, I just win louder. A mechanical would be nice, during the day, in an environment where no one cares about the sound, in fact, where I work, everyone has their own mechanical keyboard, but it makes the office an annoying hell listening to everyone clicking and clacking away, but since I work during the day, that means that I game at night, and where I live, night-time is quiet time, where membrane reigns supreme.
I want the individual RGB lighting, the underglow is nice too with the Pro, but I also want soft and quiet. This keyboard is perfect for those like me. Hard to believe, maybe, but we do exist and this is who this keyboard was made for.
Thank you! This summs it up perfectly.
I understand the arguments behind mechanical keyboards, but it feels like a lot of the gaming community doesn't even consider allowing some people to not want to use one.
Mechanical keyboards, though undeniably good, come with some cons that I myself can't overlook:
- they often feel uncomfortably high for me
- they're too loud even for myself, not to mention when someone is sleeping in the same room
Sure, you can counter these two by telling me to buy specific switches and keyboards with a low profile, but that leaves the higher price of mechs when compared to membranes, and the pro-mech marketing mantra of "but durability" is simply more annoying than true in my experience.
At any rate, more to the point on the video - I found myself looking for a midrange quality keyboard that isn't loud, which is how I went to try out Razer Ornata in a shop. Still a bit loud, but quite enjoyable, lead me to research the subject more, and finding a similar membrane one (and I'm not gonna lie - I kinda like how their rgb presets work with, for example, Overwatch) was exactly what I was looking for. If Cynosa had Ornata's wristrest I'm pretty sure I'd be ordering it already.
Most gamers use membrane keyboards. Are you insane? Mechanical keyboards are a hindrance when you're gaming.
Not sure who you are responding to here, but why are you asking if someone is insane and why do you think a mechanical keyboard is a hindrance when gaming. I only ask, because most gamers would argue the opposite.
no
How can a comment be so long?
ahh i've been waiting for this ever since i tweeted you haha thank you so much for this, Frank! I think I'll go with the regular $60 version, the extra $20 for another light doesn't really matter too much.
I actually prefer the membrane switches, way quiter than mechanical
Thats why people buy them
Although there are some quite mech switches
get yellow switches then
yeah but they dont last long
Same , hate it when it wakes up my family
hey frank I've had the "LAG" issue in my blackwidow chroma and i contacted Razer about it it happens sometimes you just need to make a new profile in synapse or just uninstall and reinstall synapse hope this helped! love you man merry christmas!
Allen Dudley or just remove the macro key savings, much easier
Most of these comments literally are just about how another brand is better or worse. This guy only uploads reviews, he doesn’t do anything to deserve these shitty comments. It’s your opinion on what keyboard is better or worse. Razer is its own company which is a bit more stylish. Corsair is more performance wise. Logitech is... idk I never had one so... but no on e cares if you have a Razer or if you are going to buy a Logitech/Corsair.
agreed, just appreciate the keyboard without fighting over which is best
agreed
'This keyboard is for people who are on a budget + want a Razer ecosystem' ...?????? Isn't that sort of a contradiction tho xD
Nope he is speaking to me.. I love razer my wallet and wife do not because the price. This lets me have razer without getting in too much trouble
@@HxCxDxE razer is a company in which the only good things they sell are really on the top of the price range and not very justifiable. I do own a razer huntsman, it is really good ngl but definitely could've gone the same experience with far cheaper alternatives
Ajvar Ninja tbf online there will 90% always be a cheaper alternative
he meant "cheapest razer product", how is it that hard to understand?
Razer better add that underglow to the blackwidow chroma v3
GMDDeter nah, not for years to come at least
eventualy
MORE RGB MORE MONEY MORE KEYBOARDS AND MORE GAMERS.
Sews Gaming I would be disappointed tho if they dont make a different design.
And the Razer team now got nothing to work on. I know they were working a lot on the phone.
Napster M. Same
"its a membrane keyboard"
me: MAH HEART , MAH SOUL :(
Ikr we thought :(
bruh u expect a 60 dollar mechanical keyboard from RAZER. Yes, Razer
MAH WALLET
who even uses "mah"
@@1snoozy also "meh"
mostly gacha kids that type l i k e t h i s t h i n k i n g i t s c o o l
I think that this and the Ornata exist simultaneously so that people have a very quiet option. Since the entire mechanical side of the Ornata is about giving auditory and tactile feedback, Razer is essentially giving you a the entry-level equivalent of a Brown switch board in the Cynosa and a Blue switch board in the Ornata.
i finally found a normal regular keyboard with rgb lights
there a literally cheaper keyboards that are rubber dome with rgb lights. Razer didn't invent membrane backlight keyboards
@@0x00Fyou "but razer good"
Omg I love how you record what typing sounds like! For me that would be a dealbreaker if it is loud because it’s satisfying in my opinion
This keyboard is bundled with the kraken essential, deathadder and mousepad for 100$ on Black Friday at Walmart.
Omega is the DeathAdder the 2013, Chroma or Elite Edition?
Its the 2000 edition and the keyboard isnt the chroma edition. Feels bad
Yeah I got one.
Ya it is, it is the Cynosa pro which is the chroma variant
The hardware in the bundle is old (2013), and the Cynosa and Deathadder are just backlit with 3 colors.
Get yourself an actual mechanical keyboard instead of this membrane keyboard. If you can get past the RGB lights and the brand, there are plenty of mechanical keyboards for less with single color backlighting.
Michael Tong Or like me, using a DIY ”pok3r” with full rbg and brown switches :--D
Michael Tong Any suggestions?
miigs, K551 VARA by Redragon ($40) CORSAIR K55 RGB (Membrane, $49) KG010 by EagleTec ($40) Outemu Velocifire ($37) AUKEY w/ Blue Switches ($42)
Basically, anything that is from an Asian company can be mechanical and backlit for a lower price. If you want a similar keyboard from a known brand, the Corsair keyboard is RGB with membrane switches for $20 less.
Michael Tong Alraight, any cheap options with clicky brown switches? (like just silent switches)
anything with outeamu or kailh switches are in those low price points and come in brown switches, you just have to do the searchingf
I've been working professionally in IT for almost 10 years now and being that 20% that you described as being inexperienced with keyboards, I actually like this keyboard and the less clicky sounds. I prefer the membrane keys. But whatever, I'll be over here making that money being clueless. . . .
i know it's 11 months old, work in IT as well, weird for him to call us inexperienced, i've transitioned to membrane as well, the clicky sounds drive me nutts, i find mechanical keyboards i've used them a bunch for some years.
Fanuel not IT but I am aspiring, I agree that membrane keyboards are better for me. My Apex 7 from steelseries constantly mistyped and messed me up in games, because it pressed down with barely any force and actuated at 2.0 instead of full travel.
Personally I was looking for a quiet keyboard that had great response... it's in a office environment that will also be used for casual gaming. It (the Cynosa) sounds VERY nice.
I personally don't like tactile response keys. I bought the yellow switch version of the Black Widow V2 for just that reason. But the noise was still a little clacky, plus having such a short activation time vs travel distance to bottom, I ended up using double o-rings to soften the clack and shorten the bottom-out.
I'm going to pick one of these up... thanks so much for your review.
**Since using rubber-dome (membrane) keyboards confuse you in this day and age:
Membrane keyboards are not bad, they are just meant for specific environments. Not everyone needs to know every clackity-clack of your key-presses.
Where silence is golden (coffee shops, libraries, call centers, offices, reception areas, etc), membrane keyboards will always be necessary.
I'm personally VERY glad Razer could come up with a design for membranes that have a decent response to allow for expanded usage for the casual gamer.
He attacc
He protecc
But most importantly
The keyboard dont clacc. :(
Hello there.
The ripple effect isn't laggy for my Cynosa, so if that is a factor that has stopped you from buying the keyboard, dont worry it's a great keyboard feels amazing for the $50 price tag.
Thanks for releasing this on my birthday!
TheRedFlash1 good shit but you don't have to brag about it.
miigs it’s his Fucking birthday shut the fuck up
Jon Jensen He can say what the fuck ever he wants 2 in internet. The dude anyways is just a kid lmao.
happy bday
TheRedFlash1 thanx fo randomfrankp?
Dude! I am a fan of membrane! I am also a user of mechanical switches! I was a person who wanted to get into the gaming peripherals, I started with the Logitech G105, which was a rubber dome switch.... I absolutely loved it, so much so that I recently picked up another one! I now have 7 different gaming keyboards from different eras and I have two more on the way! My absolute favorite is definitely the Razer Lycosa! I tried it at my friend's house and the rubber coated keys are unique!
Also, thank you so much RandomFrankP! You have introduced me to many different keyboards that I had never knew I wanted!!!!
0:22
it looks like the keys are really moving
Haha yes
Got it for Christmas and wow its a great keyboard. I just wanted it for the under-glow which looks really cool in the dark. Don’t use it for gaming at all, just for regular pc use.
Well im one of the 20% becouse i have a laptop. I love the sound of the Razer Cynosa keyboard, it sound so soft.
same lol
A really good review thanks, I love this keyboard and am glad I watched this video to see if it was worth it, and its perfect for me. I love those types of keyboards which are rainbow, and have split leveling, underglow, and customizeable lighting. This keyboard has all that, and I get to see this fabulous review of it! Thank you.
Tbh I like the cynosa sound better then the MX cherry sound.
How
You know what would be great?
Razer X Chroma
+ White back plate (So the RGB light reflects better)
+ Underglow
+ Macro keys like on the BackWidow
3:43 that’s so cool ! 😂😍
Randomfrankp the keyboard in the description is not the Pro. Don’t know if you are aware of this, just wanted to mention it so that people don’t get confused and buy the wrong one.
3:20 Sound Test
Water resistant and water proof are different, but this is a good progress
So basically the lighting on its own costs 70$
I hate how nobody is able to get over the stigma against membrane switches. Yes, I understand that many people, the majority of people in fact, prefer the tactile feedback that a mechanical keyboard gives you. However, choosing a keyboard is ALL about personal preference. You can say that a certain switch will have better gaming performance or a nicer typing experience, but that is still dependent on the person and their style. I personally prefer the feel of membrane or mecha-membrane switches. Does it effect my typing or gaming? No. Does it mean that I am "not experienced with keyboards" or "have not used a mechanical keyboard in the past" as randomfrankp is suggesting? No. I have used several keyboards including regular mechanical keyboards from brands such as Razer and Corsair. I can see why people like them. Doesn't change the fact that I still prefer my Razer Deathstalker that I've been using for several years without issue. I am thrilled that Razer and some other big brands are finally coming out with more premium keyboards for this market. I've waited so long for something that I can upgrade to, so keyboards like the Cynosa and the Ornata are a perfect for me.
So, I assume I should keep my v2 and not get this?
yes keep ur v2 its way better i still have my tournament edition chroma
Buy me one
you got that right!
I am gonna keep my v2 and my deathadder chroma I thought the cynosa was gonna be mechanical. so yea FUCK THAT
Yeah that would be a big downgrade
FYI... the Azio MKG-1 is the same price as this, it is mechanical (not cherry, but this shouldn't matter much), it is RGB, and is made of brushed aluminum vs this KB's plastic build.
Why do I say it doesn't matter if it's Cherry? Because I have a couple Corsair (K70, K65, K70 RGB) keyboards with Cherry Blue, Brown and Red switches, I've tried 3 other keyboards that use non-Cherry Blue, Black and Red switches. Those "Chinese" or whatever you wanna call them, keyboards (E-Element, Azio, Ajazz) feel almost exactly the same!!!
In my personal experience, once you try mechanical switches, you just cannot go back to rubber-dome membrane switches. The difference in typing feel is night and day!
Ima call this the Ornata reborn.
Lmao me too
Pretty much
Razer Ornata Chroma China Edition
Pix3lg4m3r this is the ornata with higher key caps and not mecha membrane lol
UA-camDrama True then I say Razer Ornata Crappy edition.
@randomfrankp The table that serves as a backdrop for this review is sick! Did you built it yourself or where did you get it?
Why people hate the membrane keyboards??
unresponsive and overall just feel cheap
Feels cheap and mushy
more actuation force needed, Mushy feeling, Kinda late when responding, and feels like u could kill it in an instant especially if u rage sp hard..... In short just no plss just buy a brown switch and add O-rings if you want silent and kinda mushy
Because it's the trend to love mechanical keyboards, since they are more expensive.. If people were honest with themselves they'd agree that the good or bad "feel" means different things to different people.
@@7Wolfleader no, we hate bad membrane keyboards and expensive membrane keyboards. There are some really good membrane keyboards for like $30 if you look hard enough, but they are very rare. And for $40 - $50 you can get a mechanical keyboard from a Chinese company... So why would anyone ever buy a membrane keyboard anymore.
Mechanical Keyboards are getting cheaper as time goes on too, so membranes are slowly just becoming what you use when you have nothing else.
Got the Cynosa Chroma for 45 dollars in March of 2020. Jesus Christ it was an amazing deal. Keys are incredibly quiet (probably because I don't press that hardly when I type, but still), lighting is gorgeous, etc.. Personally, I find nothing wrong with it.
i dont know why i feel like he types Send Nudes or Subrcibe! on the click sounds
Lol ok
Hahaha
Frank your videos are Gold bro, thank you for all the details.
Hey guys it's random thug p
I see you with the gold chain
Jacob S So he is a Thug now because of a chain?
@@ImSwishin r/woosh
@@bruhgeng9750 Lol how is that a R/Wooosh?
@@ImSwishin it's obviously a joke
@@bruhgeng9750 Invalid joke.
i just went from a redragon kumara to the cynosa chroma(non pro). the feel of this keyboard is great. the actuation of the buttons aren't shabby and the sound is worlds different.... practically silent. the keys spring back up very well and i have yet to push a button and not have it recognized right away. for the $80 cad that this keyboard costs (walmart) you could get many different kinds of keyboards but this one forsure is not a bad choice.
5 dollar keyboard with rgb lights for 80 dollars?! Great job razer keep it up!!
Kiva pfp
Typical.
@Filipe Azadinho lmao it doesn't feel anything like mechanical keyboard LOL only keyboard that is similar to mechanic keyboard is Mecha Membrane like Razer ornata chroma they sound alot like cherry mx blue
why do people hate membrane? as far as I'm concerned, I want silent keys and a good feel, membrane has always provided this and I've found mechanical to be too loud or too flimsy feeling
Plz review razer mercury edition keyboard and mouse!!
Bleart Jashari they're literally exactly the same as the black versions
They are the exact same as the black versions, just a different color of plastic. It wouldn't make any difference
*I DONT LIKE WHITE STUFFS*
Now I'm torn between this and the Corsair K55. Think I will buy both and try em both out.
This new keyboard IS DOPEEE
I just switched to this from a black widow and I think it’s pretty good. The mechanical switches on the black widow were to load and therefor my parents could hear me when I’m trying to sneak play games or do shit at night
What mechanical keyboard did he use?
Xrod Gaming it's a DIY mechanical keyboard. He has a video with that keyboard.
Xrod Gaming I forgot what it is but the case is custom made
60% keyboard with MX blues and RGB
ua-cam.com/video/tfQBuGXqAVY/v-deo.html
A year ago I got a RGB Slim profile Mechanical keyboard from Redragon. The k551 for 40$, I don't understand why people pay so much for brand still
1:58 left the video lmao
That ripple lag is just a bug . For me it works perfectly.
Liking rubber dome = inexperienced? Alright. Personally I just despise mechanical keyboards.
Yeah in my opinion mechanical keyboards are way too loud. Happy with my ornata chroma that I have had for 1 and a half years now
@@EnvoyPlayz ever heard of silent mechanical switches?
@@EnvoyPlayz there are quieter mechanical switches than ornata chroma switches fyi
I have the Blackwidow Chroma te v2 and the ripple effect works well.
Still doesn't beat the Logitech G Pro TKL keyboard.
Halo AE That’s basically comparing a lambo to a family sedan ;-)
dosent beat the ikbc f108 rgb which destroys both in terms of quality
it does! because of the supported games. Logitech supports nothing!
MUFSpoiler m8 that's so untrue... Mass effect andromeda and battlefield 1 both have full support so please know what you're talking about before trying to prove a point with "facts".
Halo AE no crap, I mean, a cheapo overpriced rubber dome keyboard vs a (still overpriced) high quality mechanical keyboard CANNOT compare. It's actually unfair to make that comparison.
I'm getting this keyboard. Is that a bad investment? I got it as a budget keyboard for my black widow replacement.
I actually like this keyboard, but I'm good with my overpriced razer deathstalker ultimate.
Mech vs. Membrane is subjective.... "20% of people don't care" is a silly unfounded statement. I've tried mech keyboards with Blues, Browns, Reds & even blacks..... although I personally feel more comfortable with linear keys, membrane keyboards always feel better for my aggressive and forceful game play, I also appreciate the noise level to minimum when gaming away late at night. For gaming, my response and performance has not been impacted by changing keyboards around but typing however is a different story.
i bought the ornata chroma for 46 dollars best deal i got ever
i got it for 10 bucks, amazon warehouse sale...
@@Dan_Moto OMGGG
In Russia price of this keyboard is about $150
Bro, lucky
I think it was a good idea for Razer to make a membrane rgb keyboard with their software for the people who prefer membrane
Ornata is so better
Can get grammar
Man, you deserve more views and subs
I am going to buy corsair k55
really good keyboard I think, I just wish it had CUE-compatibility...
Good for you
William Lindegaard i know
Yeah this was directed to compete with the Corsair k55. It costs more and is worse.
buy k70 it is super good, I have it but I use my k95, blackwidow x and sometimes g710
spend the same $90 and you can get a renewed Leopold FC900R. One of the best prebuilt keyboards you can get for its price.
I'm typing on a membrane keyboard from 1998 and that keyboard sound like ass bro why would razer do this.
I’m quite confused about your criticism on the Ripple lighting effect “lag” or whatever you call it. I have this same keyboard and it doesn’t have this issue at all, and yes you can adjust the speed and how fluent you want it to move. I’m guessing you didn’t play with the software much?
Usual membrane keyboard 30$.... It's expensive huh? But having a Razer logo on it you will buy it for 80$.... Kids who don't know anything about keyboard and they want Razer to tell their friends that they got one.
I feel like I have seen this comment before
i got razers blackwidow chroma x te because razer looks the best. Corsair has the highest overall quality and steelseries and logitech are the budget to quality sweetspot and azio, reddragon, ect are cheap but good enough
Ahaha usual membrane keyboard around 30$? Red Dragon K552 (or 1) Kumar is a Mechanical keyboard with Oatemu Blue switches that sells for about 30$. Ugh, people who buy this keyboard are just retarded. You're not going to be spending your time gazing into the rgb of your keyboard now are you? Keyboards are valued for tactility not visual impressions. I do like rgb but this level of rgb craze is just seriously getting overboard.
acctually corsair keyboards are an overpriced gaming product as well compared to proper mech keyboard enthusiast brands which even come with pbt keycaps from the factory
rockslps yeah Corsair is too Razer just shoots through the roof and breaks it and shoots out to space
I hate the feel of membrane switches, but unfortunately they are almost a requirement in order for my microphone to not pick up every key press.
Can you compare this keyboard to the Ornata
Sounds like the Ornata has a clicky tactile feedback where this does not... both are membrane keyboards.
which do you think is better for gaming
Aj Diesel its based on your preference really
Honestly... if your gaming online, no matter how fast your key-press gets to your CPU, it's always going to be bottle-necked by your connection to the servers.
Aside from that, the responsiveness of keys is (as T W E R K indicated) a personal preference. I personally don't like click or tactile response... so I went with the Black Widow v2 with yellow switches. They have a shallow response time with smooth travel... this feels very nice when gaming, though it doesn't help land the kill-shots quicker in MMO-PVP games.
Hope that helps. As far as I seen from other users of the Cynosa, they've said it does very well at gaming, so if noise is an issue, this could be a good solution.
What's wrong with membrane? I dont get the big deal. My dilemma is choosing either the blackwidow chroma v2 with orange switches or this bad boy. Thoughts? (Only difference is 5 macros, mechanical keyboard vs membrane, a wrist rest and $100)
"As an Keyboard enthusiast, you're not gonna be a fan of rubberdome switches, that's just a fact". LOL .
This guy doesn't know what he's talking about. Me and a fellow IBM employee have tested over hundred types of keyboards. And in the end I prefer Rubberdome and he prefers a hybrid spring switch(Which is a spring that taps on membrane at the end btw).
This guy needs some serious research when making bold statements like this...
Ye I prefer membranes so much quieter and soft and just a better feel
I like how after 3 years the keyboard is now 30 dollars. Might get this because my 60% Royal Kludge doesn't mix with my game keybinds.
The K55 is so ugly! Do all Corsair keyboards look like that?
McAwesome the design is ugly
I bought this keyboard and actually love it. The only thing I don’t like is that it isn’t mechanical but non the less it’s amazing and responsive
NEVER BUY RAZER KEYBOARDS THEY BREAK ALL THE TIME AND THE COMPANY LIES AND WON'T HONOR THE WARRANTY.
Lmao I bought this keyboard on release, still use it to this day
Very true
The Razer Ornata is such a better keyboard. I have it, my previous keyboard was the Corsair K55 and even though I am a huge Corsair fanboy, I have to say, this razer keyboard is truly amazing. This keyboard is pretty much the razer form of the k55 except the ornata has WAY more lighting options and has mecha-membrane switches which gives you the best of both worlds when it comes to membrane and mechanical clicky switches.
Why are you so handsome?
Oh , thank you for the compliment. But I can’t win against your handsomeness.
What's the difference between Ornata and Cynosa
RUBBER DOME ID BETTER CAUSE ITS QUITER
have you ever heard of a silent key switch like the cherry mx silents, because membrane sucks
StepTic There is soo much wrong with this comment
wrong. also it's "Quieter"
its not that good i have had it for 1 week now and i dont game a lot but the hours that i have gamed the wasd keys are already showing use sounds most noticiable
Friend from school? Is that you?
Seriously, there are silent keyswitches and dental bands/O-rings, you could combine a Cherry MX Silent with a O-ring to make it quiet, just do some research
Is this good for like, a budget gaming keyboard? Like, for a person that doesn't really do, "competitive gaming?"
I just bought mine a few days ago for my music production studio. Very quiet keyboard for late night sessions with per-key RGB for 60€, what more do you need.
why did razer even bother refreshing this old product when they weren't even going to give it at least the mecha-membrane switches from the ornata?
- Because not everyone needs audible feedback on their key-presses.
I bought a blackwidow a few months back with yellow switches. Its fine but im having a hard time adjusting to mechanical keys. Im sure there are other ones with more tactile feedback but i just dont like it. Missing my old membrane one. Thinking about picking this one up and sell my blackwidow
I have this keyboard and the ripple effect is very smooth
i dont get why people complain so much about rubber dome keyboards i like the soft cushioned feel
They should put macros on the right and remove the number keys on the right! So you can have ur mouse closer to ur keyboard but still have a lot of keys!
yea ive never used a mechanical (ive used a macbook air for gaming for like 3 years fml) but now that im thinking of getting a gaming pc and keyboard i want to go with a mechanical cuz theyre overall just better from what ive seen in videos and reviews many many times
i feel like you had another channel. your voice is so familiar and i thought id seen your name
wow they actually paid attention to the rubber feet of the elevated feet which is really good.
Ripple is not sipposed to do that, there may be an issue with either your pc, software, or keyboard, or the speed is to slow, but it is supposed to be very smooth.
You might as well buy the alienware keyboard for another 10$. It has a underglow as well(with better quality) and it generally feels good. The only flaw is its not indiviaully lit for the keys, it has 14 regions
I personally wouldn't touch anything made by Razer with a long stick based on what I've heard about Deathadders and these reviews.
Although the Deathstalker is ok since there's not a lot of those really low profile keyboards out there(but the price on it is kinda steep tho).
I hate how they say "soft and mushy" like it is a bad thing, there are people out there that don't like mechanical
although I like mechanical sounds, being a first-time buyer for a keyboard, i would prefer to buy this as its cheaper than the ornata chroma, im also on a budget so thats another reason why im getting this keyboard. plus the fact im a sucker for RGB XD
Thank you for the support
Is it worth it though???
Went from a black widow ultimate to this. Yes the mechanical switches are satisfying but this isn’t a bad keyboard IMO
Do this keyboard has this delay if u press a Button ?
RealFleex I don’t notice any, even when gaming
@@thrillbylg ok
I feel like the pro monomer has lost all meaning if Razer thinks a bit more RGB lighting makes the keyboard more professional.
as a razer green user, i kinda like the sound of the cynosa
Actually, i used alot of keyboards, i play a lot of games and still i like membrane keybords better. I use my mechanic for typing and stuff just because i like the sound of it. But for gaming... only membrane.
So i'm really happy to hear that Cynosa Pro is a membrane keyboard.
It's my own preference so don't hate. :D