Chords and Melodic Lines in Bach's Chaconne (opening)

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  • Some practice tips on the chords and melodic lines in the opening of the Chaconne from partita no 2 for solo violin BWV 1004 by JS Bach.
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  • @violinlounge
    @violinlounge  3 роки тому +8

    Did this video inspire your own interpretation?

    • @scharnhorstkaisarbeethoven
      @scharnhorstkaisarbeethoven 3 роки тому +3

      Want your recording
      Also thankyou for teaching us the various techniques

    • @enealiviu4797
      @enealiviu4797 3 роки тому +2

      You are a very capable violinist but why does your violin doesn't sound that good? In a way that i can't feel the sadness that this piece is supposed to give you.

    • @scharnhorstkaisarbeethoven
      @scharnhorstkaisarbeethoven 3 роки тому +2

      @@enealiviu4797 she didn't record it professionally and her right arm did suffered a fracture and she was also trying to show the chord composition

    • @user-mz6sp8tn1r
      @user-mz6sp8tn1r Місяць тому

      Of course!!!!!!

    • @user-mz6sp8tn1r
      @user-mz6sp8tn1r Місяць тому

      I say Zlata!!!! Would you like to explain to me how to play the Cadence in the Sonata Diable's Trillo! Tartini. Would the Caprice of Paganini no.Xl be helpful in this case! Thank you!

  • @melissaraven3164
    @melissaraven3164 4 місяці тому +2

    I'm not a violinist but I find this really interesting. I'm obsessed by the Chaconne, particularly on the violin but also on the piano. I envy people who can play it on either ( or any) instrument. The craft of musicians fascinates me. Listening to music (particularly Bach) being played is wonderful, but hearing musicians talk about how it is played is really interesting.

    • @user-mz6sp8tn1r
      @user-mz6sp8tn1r Місяць тому +1

      Dear English-speaking friend! I have learned only with one aim to play Tchacona of Bach. My slogan is: you must, you can do samething

  • @alcestopeth
    @alcestopeth Рік тому

    Absolutely wonderful, and my favorite bach piece. Thank you!

  • @user-mz6sp8tn1r
    @user-mz6sp8tn1r Місяць тому +1

    Hello, Zlata! I haven't heard you and seen you a lot of time. My slogan is as followed: l would have been learning violin only because to play this God's Creation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Alex Fuerstenberg ( nickname). Have learned Thacona by heart once upon a time!

  • @Sara-wd5lk
    @Sara-wd5lk 3 роки тому +4

    Thank you so much Zlata! This is really interesting and useful! I love your interpretation of this beautiful piece and I hope to see more videos related to Bach's solo Sonatas and Partitas. Thank you, you deserve more subscribers!❤🎻

    • @violinlounge
      @violinlounge  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you very much, Sara, I'm certainly making more of them. One will be about the major part of the Chaconne and another one on the Louré of the 3rd partita.

    • @Sara-wd5lk
      @Sara-wd5lk 3 роки тому

      @@violinlounge Thank you so much Zlata! I'm working on the Partita n°3 at the moment, so your videos will be really useful! 🎻🌹

  • @robertobiccari5464
    @robertobiccari5464 9 місяців тому

    Ottimi suggerimenti e molto interessanti

  • @Tinyfrogonaleaf
    @Tinyfrogonaleaf 3 роки тому +1

    Beautiful!

  • @ConmasterWynn1
    @ConmasterWynn1 3 роки тому

    This was sooo helpful thank you!

  • @leedennis9
    @leedennis9 2 роки тому

    This is really helpful - thank you so much 🥰🥰

  • @kvn00000
    @kvn00000 2 роки тому +1

    I think my favourite part from the chaconne is the last page. The part where the A is used like a pedal point, always returning with the melody using open A and D string A. Just love that part. If I ever become a good enough violinist to even think about practicing the chaconne I will put hours into those couple of bars alone

  • @Opti234
    @Opti234 7 місяців тому

    I'm starting this song and this video was of great help, thanks! :D

  • @DivaDeb1234
    @DivaDeb1234 3 роки тому +1

    I never played this . I would like to try . Thank you for the instruction.

  • @ohtoriginalhimbeertoni
    @ohtoriginalhimbeertoni 3 роки тому +1

    👌👍
    By the way I love your Violin...

  • @arryaxx263
    @arryaxx263 3 роки тому

    I'm working on this song right now. The beginning is so unique, it's difficult to balance between keeping the dance rhythm, and giving the piece enough room to breathe. I would be interested in how you interpret some of the longer, unbroken sections, like F, or the staccato in H and I.

    • @violinlounge
      @violinlounge  3 роки тому

      In my edition I don't have these markings. Do you have bar numbers?

    • @arryaxx263
      @arryaxx263 3 роки тому

      ​@@violinlounge Ah! It's 32-47 and the staccato passage from 72-80. The bowing isn't extremely difficult, but interpreting it musically(keeping the rhythm or using rubato? How to differentiate the different lines) with bowing when there are so many melodic resolutions, but no breaks in the rhythm is a challenge, I think. Also, you mentioned more modern interpretations, and I think it isn't very Baroque, but the Heifetz style flying staccato at 60-68 is fun, but maybe that's only a modern interpretation? I could talk forever about the Chaconne!

  • @scharnhorstkaisarbeethoven
    @scharnhorstkaisarbeethoven 3 роки тому

    First today
    I was waiting it for 4 months

  • @DivaDeb1234
    @DivaDeb1234 3 роки тому +1

    So Bach has
    Partitas, Sonatas and Chaconnes ??

    • @violinlounge
      @violinlounge  3 роки тому +3

      Bach wrote 3 sonatas and 3 partitas for solo violin. The Chaconne is a movement in the 2nd partita. They are ALL worth listening and studying for life :).

    • @michaels7889
      @michaels7889 3 роки тому +1

      @@violinlounge Even when one plays a viola!

    • @violinlounge
      @violinlounge  3 роки тому +1

      @@michaels7889 certainly! Or the cello suites transcribed for viola ☺️

    • @michaels7889
      @michaels7889 3 роки тому

      @@violinlounge The chaconne is quite definitely violin music I think. There is much debate about the original instrument of the cello suites. There are some really interesting performaces on UA-cam of the viola transcriptions of the chaconne, including an impressively fluent one by the young Spanish violist Cristine Cordero but it still tends to sound heavy no matter how you try the bowing. The melodic line passages on the other hand prove eloquent. My nemesis is interpreting the confusing way the arpeggiated passages are printed!! The other dances of the D minor partita sound very well on a viola.
      What strikes me often is that the chaconne remains firmly a dance in this partita but when you come to the cello suites, by the 6th the Allemande has lost its dance and become a beautiful essay almost like a spider web of threads joining nodes. It is a joy, both are.
      Your discussion of the bowing is very interesting and useful Zlata, tempting me back into trying again on the viola without separating it from its partita.

    • @jean-yvesPrax
      @jean-yvesPrax Рік тому

      Thank You Zlata ! @@michaels7889 You are historically and factually right, the chaconne has been written for the violin. Nevertheless, as a lute player... having worked 3 hours/day during 6 months on this beautiful but demanding piece of music I would like to figure out some points that may be of some interest, hopefully.
      1/ JS Bach wrote four whole suites for the lute BWV 995, BWV 996, BWV 997, BWV 1006a - although he most probably not wrote them on a lute (but on a weird instrument called lautenwerk with a keyboard) they sound beautifully on the lute. So does the partita 1004. I mean, as a lutenist, I do not see any major difference. The 995 has been transcripted by Bach from the Viola, and it works very well on lute (I published the saraband on my UA-cam chanel)
      2/ Some parts of the chaconne, like the very beginning of part 2 in D major are very polyphonic, like a choral... the violin obliges to break the chords, when an instrument like the lute can render the polyphony, letting all voices singing together.
      3/ coming back to the chaconne as a dance, it is a ternary rhythm where the strong beat (the one the dancer puts the foot on the ground) is the second beat ! Again, an instrument like lute allows to play the first beat chord in mode "accord plaqué" (sorry I don't know the term in english and probably would not find it on Google ;-))) and the second chord in mode "accord délié" which helps to render the very low tempo dance (should I say "funeral march") effect. On lève le pied sur le temps 1, on pose le pied sur le temps 2
      Well, I'm not saying that partita 1004 has been written for lute, nor I'm trying to claim that one instrument is "better" than an other, but just wanted to add an other perspective ;-) a give the evidence, if needed, that Bach was a genius, and this chaconne is from "divine" origin !

  • @eliseveldt
    @eliseveldt 4 місяці тому

    are you dutch?

    • @violinlounge
      @violinlounge  4 місяці тому +1

      Yup!

    • @eliseveldt
      @eliseveldt 4 місяці тому +1

      @@violinlounge do you ever peform in the netherlands, you got a lovely sound

  • @felixhesse4096
    @felixhesse4096 3 роки тому +1

    all in all I prefer ivy gitlist style interpretation.

  • @shopgirlmusic
    @shopgirlmusic Місяць тому

    I never could get the vibrato so I gave up.

  • @jonathonaltmann4493
    @jonathonaltmann4493 11 місяців тому

    Bars 85 to 89, yikes.