Mixing ‘Come Together’ by The Beatles - Tascam Model 24 Multitracks
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro
02:50 - Phil Allen Intro
11:36 - Mixing with the TASCAM 24
11:50 - Using the Softube Console 1
14:10 - Overheads Submix
17:14 - Kick Submix
21:37 - Snare Submix
23:13 - Snare Bottom Mono + Submix
24:15 - Tom's
27:34 - Room Mono
28:21 - Kick Submix
28:55 - Drums Bus
30:25 - Bass Bus & Amp
34:51 - Electric Guitar
35:41 - Bass
36:25 - Electric Guitar 1 Mono
36:41 - Lead Guitar
37:21 - Kick, Tom's
38:18 - Overhead Stereo
38:45 - Lead Vocals
42:43 - Backing Vocals
45:00 - Putting it Together
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What song should we cover and mix next? Please let us know down below!
How bout ‘Kare Kare’ by Crowded House. Originally mixed by Bob Clearmountain.
Bauhaus - she‘s in parties 🖖 … again a great video - > yess
Rosana - Toto
Sandstorm by Darude
Peter Frampton!
So this is what Phil does when we leave… thank you again for having us!
You guys sound great! Keep up the great sound🤘
I have older version of a Tascam, I coild export wav files from it and mix in a DAW if I wanted but I mix on the Tascam itself. Not sure how the Model 24 works but a bit disappointed that the song wasn't mixed on the machine itself as a test. If you own a Tascam the whole point is that its a self contained one stop recording studio
It has many ways to be used besides that, there's no one way to use it. Many people just use the usb output and us it as an interface with monitor mix capabilities.
There are so many things that you can't do in a tascam that is kind of necessary for a modern sounding mix. No submixes or busses, no mix bus processing, no bus processing period. You'd be hard pressed to make a modern sounding mix without any sort of bus processing
But that wouldn't add in a softube sponsorship, would it? ;)
Yeah I wanted to see the mixing workflow on M24 as well, disappointing video really
Wow, this episode is truly amazing, love to learn the techniques to understand where our privilege of recording of today comes from now :)
Thanks ever so much Ady!
Teaching the band to play together and well is a very good thing . Phil is doing good work . Nice video .
Thanks ever so much
This is so good. Thank you very much for this. Best channel on youtube by far
Wow! Thanks ever so much
Omg.. getting this on a friday coming from a weeks work - priceless! thanks Warren, Phil and co!
Thanks ever so much! Glad you enjoyed the video!!
Those open hats put a smile on my face : - )
Thank you!
That's great to hear!
Great approach to mixing with the Softube gear. That was excellent, thanks very much
Thanks ever so much Joey
Lol, I have a Tascam 244 here at the side of me that I've had since the 80's. It's the 4 track that I grew up on. I think I'm inspired to blow the dust off it and play back some of those old tapes I've still got. I haven't used it in years. Different league to the one mentioned in the video, but still, it served me well in the early years. I remember doing a lot of bouncing from 3 tracks to one, to add more instruments. No undo button once you've done that and used the other tracks again.
Those old Tascam's are really sought after today. The 244 I believe is looked at as one of the best of them
@@kevmay21 Well that's good to know. I still haven't played it yet, but bizarrely I've just installed a new interface and ordered some now cabling to patch things in. One of those cables is assigned to the 244. At last I can have a listen to the crap I used to wail out in 80's. I'm already scared. Thanks for that tip.
Damn I like this version! Sounds like what Blue Cheer would have done with a Beatles tune! I opted for some distortion on the bass amp signal and blended it with the DI. Yeah baby!
Thanks ever so much Juan!
Thanks!!! I have Softube Console 1 mixing system... works seamless with my Studio One , UAD apollo X4 and right along side my Faderport 16... Console 1 is a great product. cant wait for the next videos!
Fascinating mixing session, thanks! Softube Console One seems very cool to use!
Thanks ever so much
Thank you!
You're welcome!
man that saturation on the console control was great....this series has been super timely for me my tascam DM24 is about to crap the bed on me...great vid guys
Thanks Kip!
I love the Softtube plugins. Their Marshall Silver Jubilee, Dirty Tape and TS Reverb I use alot and also use a control surface the Akai APC key 25 Ableton Controller. Pretty Cool version of Come Together. Heavy...😎
Thank you kindly!
Hoped you would mixdown on the model 24
The original video was mixed on the Tascam. Did you watch that?
@@ProducelikeaproYeah but the mixing process was not shown
Really go for it..Cover a RUSH song. Take your pick!!!!
Can imagine this as a movie score... kind of like Arnold's biker club heist... some artful spaces to pull movie sound, and then timed music to create impact.
Thanks ever so much for sharing
It would be great to see some of the recording on the Tascam 24. Watching the live process etc
Indeed! We already did that:- ua-cam.com/video/JC0NHzpP8YM/v-deo.html
Super!👍
Thanks ever so much
Awesome
Thanks ever so much
I've recorded 2 albums on a Tascam dp32. Much more fun than using a DAW... just feels 'real'.
Wow, I was under the impression he was going to mix it in Tascam Model 24 Multitrack. It was very disappointing to see that wasn't the case.
I saw the recording video and thought that was cool, so when I saw the title mixing "Come Together" by The Beatles, I thought you're going to mix it on the 24 Multitrack.
I dont understand why someone would buy this hardware to record with and then mix it on their DAW. 🤔
Thanks again for your videos; and I look forward to seeing the next one.
One of the coolest features of the Model 24 is that it bounces the mix to the last 2 tracks of your 24 tracks automatically. So because we were using the onboard compressors (which compress to “tape”), as well as applying reverb and EQ’ing the multitrack returns for playback while we were tracking, our mix was done as soon as the band was! It’s an incredible feature…but doesn’t make for a good video breakdown. So I thought this highlights how easy it is to transfer straight from the Tascam to a DAW for mixing.
Oh I see, oh ok that makes sense.
Thanks for taking the time to explain it to me. 😁
I was disappointed as well ...was excited thinking it was going to be mixed on the 24
It did Come Together quite well
Haha bada boom bada bing!
One thought I have... When we have limited tracks, we would still have the rooms and overheads, but they are not as prevalent in the mix. I personally feel the overheads are a bit much and cancelling out the snare. I love this video, however, I totally get making a mic'ed track audible, I am a PT user, but like to work in the analog world when I can. Thanks to everyone on this channel for giving great tutorials! Much love to you all!
I agree. The snare disappears almost completely in the forest of distorted guitars. The snare close mics are pinched so hard that only a short blip comes through.
I started on a Korean d888 I'm glad they are making something you could use to run powered pa Speakers and record your show or in your practice space try and make a recording studio and make a record rock on Warren
Question: Is it a good idea to record the live tracks of the band in one studio [better room] but doing the double tracking and overdubs in another? [maybe I like some of the equipment better in another], Thanks Warren.
I love tracking bands in a room and yes, you could continue tracking overdubs there and use the room Mics for instance. However, it’s also great to do overdubs in a different environment
I don't know if I missed the part where he spoke about what brand of plug-ins he was using in this mix? Are they the plug-ins that come with the Softube?
The Console 1 system is a combo of the hardware controller and a plug-in that goes on every channel. So the Softube Console 1 plugin is inserted on each channel…and that’s it! I did use a TC Electronics Reverb, Echo Boy for some slap on the effect sends.
Couple of questions. ?
1) I , like you worked the old Tascam 4track cassette machines in early 80’s. What I hated about DAW was you MUST record to click, bpm setup first. So on the Model 24 , can you just record freely , not restrained to a click ? Also how do you handle making this project of come together , how when finished can you come back to it say a year later and have all settings as they were at time of recording a year earlier ? I am a Drummer and I’d like to get this to use for my multitrack for Drums for cover video audio. My only concern is not being able to save all data settings of different sounding kits that I’d like to recall. Your thoughts ? I have a Behringer X32 but I think it’s too much for what I need , therefore wanting to switch to this Model 24. Thanks
@Zack Darce maybe I’m saying it wrong. I’m trying to say the DAW makes you setup BPM then everything you record must be in that frame. Does that make more sense ? It seemed editing in that situation was more difficult fitting parts in. In old days , you fee recorded and could put anything anywhere I hope that helps. I wish I had a good example. It’s been awhile since running into that. Thank you :)
I have the Tascam Model 24 for tracking my guitar and vocal arrangements at home. There’s no recall for EQ, compression, faders, etc.
It’s a live analog board with digital printing to a memory card. It’s also an interface that can transfer either multi-tracks or a stereo sum to a DAW. Other than punches and markers, there’s no editing to speak of.
The purpose for me is to leave everything set, power up the board and hit record. I also transfer completed midi drum multitracks into the M24 to track with and then transfer back to the DAW.
I had to get out of the box and not get sidetracked with computers. Using just a DAW is easier, so this hybrid approach works for some and not for others.
I’ve also spent some time behind the kit and if all you’re doing is capturing drum takes, the M24 or even the 16 is more than enough. You will like the EQ and compressors, but there are only two inserts.
It comes down to dropping $1k on a good interface or something like the M24.
Hope this helps someone.
@@ChiefMiddleFinger Well said and explained ! Thank you for taking the time to respond. I agree 100% I have 2 trains of thought . I love Tascam and believe the M24 is a perfect hybrid device. Like you stated, I believe it will be a perfect mix it , leave it alone board with benefit of multitrack recording. My second thought is being that I have the Behringer X32, I can do more things like make 100+ kit presets , I can store and recall . This requires much deeper pages, routing etc. so I love the simplicity of Tascam only wishing I could save different “kits” I make. Going back I still have a Roland VS2480HD , that let me do both , I could save all the date setting with each kit I made. But that’s sooo obsolete now. You have helped me . I think to just simplify and get the Tascam 24. How often will I really change kits once it sounds great ? Thanks again :).
Hey Warren can we have more Phil on the show? :)
Absolutely! Thanks ever so much
Expect more soon
YES MORE PHIL!!!
It's kind of funny to hear the limited channel thing. I do live sound, and I'm used to limited channels of sound, while still being able to record them on my Behringer x32 and get great results. I think all the modern studio stuff has spoiled some engineers being able to just throw channel after channel of sound with overdubs. I can do that as well, but I feel it has a diminishing return on the songs.
I mixed this track and I love the raw vibe of it. Sounds much more like the recordings from back in the day when they'd record as a band. Limited tracks, and just get it done! :)
I’ve scouring the interwebs about produce like a pro academy. Is there a monthly sub so one can get a feel before dropping $200? For me, and probably many others, this would be a great option to get our foot in the door.
Every take is a final performance. I doubt that is original, but it works for me.
(:
I wish we could have seen you mix it completely with the tascam. Hearing it mixed with the added plug ins isn't a great representation of the reality.
Let's make more classics - Smoke on the water ;)
Did an amazing job, but these extra packs are like over 2 to 3k. Whoa...and that's home use?
Didn’t see much of the model 24
It’s part two of a two part series
Here is part one:- ua-cam.com/video/JC0NHzpP8YM/v-deo.htmlsi=6sZ5zpTxGjltsOjX
Nice vid, great mixing.
..But someone's been poking his finger in the Yamaha white speaker cone 🙃. Maybe a visiting kid?! At least, that was my experience at my home studio after I let my nephews have an unescorted look... 🤦♂️ .
The question is, does it change the speaker sound?
Hahaha. Yup. You nailed it. I don’t hear a difference. I’m going to try the “suck it out” method. Just have to decide if I want to use the vacuum or start making out with my NS10.
Hahaha making out with an NS10 haha
Am I insane or...? Where is the mixing with the Tascam Model 24? I only see a Softube Console 1 in the video. Am I missing something here?
This is the 2nd video in the series. Here in Part one is the mix from the Tascam: ua-cam.com/video/JC0NHzpP8YM/v-deo.html
sideburns are 2 inches away from "Mungo Jerry" .. DO IT!
Hahaha thanks Fernando
Hello sir please share me the mix contest results when you anonce ? for death to the world malmor
I usually can't wait for new multitracks, and this one was no different. However, I don't know what it is in particular, but I couldn't connect with this recording.
:)
Thanks Audrey!!
Something from Bryan Adams and Bob Clearmountain.
This performance of 'Come Together' sounds raucous, scratchy and quite ghastly to be honest.
WHo ran to grab all 3 songs of Phil's Multitracks like I did ? lol...
Haha thanks ever so much
I know I will get some pushback but I couldn't help but feel while watching that these kids needed to show a little more respect for the recording process. Yes, it's good to be relaxed and have a little fun, but a musician's job in a recording studio is to work, not horse around like toddlers. Especially for a recording studio with as much history and reverence as this one. Lots of young and old people would kill for the chance to record in a legendary studio like that, why dance around like an idiot?
Thought "this" was to focused on the Tascam 24???? Not just a bunch of noise!!!!
For someone actually not using an analog console in this video & mix, man, you sure say "analog console" a LOT in this video!
🤭😉
BTW as someone who has worked on all ranges & makes of analog consoles since the early 80s, and as someone who still owns & uses a couple of large format and smaller analog consoles to record & mix, I really disagree with the "the harder you abuse them the more fun they get" statement.
That's simply not true.
Working with a console, there is signal-to-noise necessary gain staging, there's a sensible gain structure, then a sweet spot on individual channels as well as on groups or buses and on the mix bus stereo sum within the system's available headroom, an often quite noticable red line, and then there is crapping out and truly ugly distortion & crackle or dropouts or failure.
Also, no big, serious console manufacturer EVER made them with the intention to saturate and distort! Yes, it's a very mild inevitable inherent characteristic of electronic components when pushed or when overheating or even just aging over time, yes one can crank a mic amp or line amp on purpose into fizzy fuzz for effect, and yes as I already explained one can choose to push some inputs or buses into that red line where the sound begins to mildly saturate and "bend", but any serious analog console was actually designed and built with low noise floor, transparency and high headroom in mind. Not saturation.
Somehow, in this "promote like a pro" push for the (IMHO really quite good) Softube Console 1 system, the younger generation kids here might get the wrong impression that an analog console was basically a big distortion pedal, that saturation is the magic cure for everything, and that back in the day it was simply a case of push push push for more more more fun fun fun.
Well, all 3 these concepts are wrong and aren't true.
🤷🏼♂️
Gripes aside, liking this heavy handed cover (especially the fact the young band managed to inject a couple of little original parts of their own, not just rocking out the original parts) and this enjoyably noisy quick mix, very nice that how an actual hands-on job can be done is shown in real time.
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And that Tascam did a good tracking job, despite its surprisigly silly design oversights like the lack of polarity reverse or analog inserts. Couldn't see it as a serious centerpiece for a small studio, but as a live or band rehesrsal recording tool it's more than fine and sounds great.
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"Mixing Come Together by The Beatles" should be a breakdown of the tracks recorded by The Beatles, not a band doing a cover.
NOPE! Sorry. I can't get behind Tascam. I used Tascam 4, 8, and 16 over three decades so bought an 8 channel Tascam interface near the beginning of this century, had it for 4 years then Tascam stopped supporting the unit so ... Tascam can go blow a ... goa ... !!!!!! Lots of other ways to record. "Ta Scam!!!"! Gee whizz I'm still mad about that. If there is a rep watching ... have a nice day. See ya.
I know of at least 8 or 10 people that couldn't get support for their tascam products over the last 8 years. So I tried with most of them as well. Couldn't believe they got only generic replies. They were from less than a year old, supposedly still under warranty. Never got them to work. Support was outsourced and they handle 2 other companies at the same time.
sad
useless, not mixed on the machine itself...😳
This is the 2nd video in the series. Here in Part one is the mix from the Tascam: ua-cam.com/video/JC0NHzpP8YM/v-deo.html