Full match | Ma Long vs Liu Shiwen 2021 (Men vs Women Match 3)
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- Опубліковано 23 вер 2024
- Full match | Ma Long vs Liu Shiwen 2021 (Men vs Women Match 3)
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For those who think these were non-handicapped games between Ma Long and Liu Shiwen back in 2021, and wondered why the match was so close, you may have misunderstood what was actually going on. These were in fact warm-up matches between the Chinese men and the Chinese women team at the 2021 Olympics, designed to simulate the competitive settings where one might face a formidable opponent at some critical junctures in a match . What you are watching here was one of those warm-up matches. In the match, each game started with the score of 6-8, in favor of the female player. In other words, Liu Shiwen didn't have to win the first eight points in each game, leaving her to only need 3 more points (to 11) for the win (assuming that Ma Long couldn't catch up and even the score at 10-10 first). Although it may appear as if it was only a two-points advantage (the difference between 8 and 6), in reality the advantage for Liu Shiwen was much, much larger (anyone who truly understands table tennis and/or plays the sport at the competive level will be able to attest to this). In such a situation, Liu was in the position of someone who found herself up in points near the finish line, albeit against a much better opponent, and her goal was to find the strength and the focus to push through for the wins.
Thanks, I was so confused
Finally I understand. But it should be somewhere mentioned or shown in the video. Anyway thanks for the info.
Cảm ơn bạn đã cho tôi biết điều mà tôi cần hỏi
Very good
@@AS004-xf4jc mentioned by chinese
I was a little boy when the Chinese table tennis team came to the US in the 1970s. I was fortunate enough to get to meet some of the players and instantly fell in love with the sport. Today, I’m a big fan of Ma Long, but I really enjoyed watching Liu Shiwen play him. I particularly liked Liu’s tactics and style of play. Great job by both of them!!
Wow,
Ora ngurus raimu
where is zhang jike?
Seeing Chinese pingpong national team, just like NBA players came to China, both are great sport and fun to watch
play him这句露馅了哥们
That final smile between them puts a smile on us 💕
25:58 love that smile between both of them. ❤️
They can make super ping pong babies later.
@@thedeadbaby 🤣😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Да ,мне тоже нравится ихняя улыбчивость в конце
Great couple
I love how the people are standing up every time they have time out/new game. Lots of respect for players.
I don't really understand why so many Chinese people blame Liu Shiwen on the internet just because she lost the mixed doubles game :((( She did her best to recover from the injury. As a Chinese, I am so proud of her and her spirit is rly inspirational.
Well, many people just like trolling, they have a sad life and they need to vent and this is probably their way to vent
These fuckers already win everything and can't lose a single final that they start complaing
really men vs women? that was absolutely spectacular! first time see Ma Long smiling after the match
Liu Shiwen' has this short burst, attacking close to the table playing style and it is very difficult to defend against that... Naturally, it took a while for Ma Long to adjust to this ... In the last set he was pretty relaxed... Both of them are my favorites... Liu Shiwen's game is super quick and awesome...
Several gold medalists in the room, fan, xu xin,etc.
I noticed that asap because i have a friend that plays the style and thought to myself he needed tô approach the net
Что сейчас с Lui, почему она не играет и не в команде, напишите мне ответ, кто знает.
@@ACABify谢谢您的关心， 刘诗雯已经退役了，现在精力在于培养青年运动员和推广乒乓球运动。
Many of the players are practically unknown outside China since they only participate in the local leagues, which are definitely the best and toughest in the world, and have no chance of competing internationally. Their standard is so high that if the rules were to allow unlimited number of players from one country to participate, the reserves from China will most probably beat the teams / players from most other countries participating in the Olympics and China will make a clean sweep of all the medals for single and double.
I highly believe so,,, it's like any of the unknown guys on the bench could beat any of the top european players
just like they did in 2008
Thats what happens anyways😂
Just like bball and usa
I'm not sure that's exactly true, ma long fzd and xu xin have great records against foreign players but other male players who have been able to play in tour events don't, Chinese players who defect in order to play internationally don't do that well either. China certainly dominates the highest level of competitive table tennis either way
What I have observed: women stands closer to the table and takes the ball early using short strike. Men stands a bit farther and use full swing motion.
Depends on the person not the sex😂
@@Belal22 no it's pretty accurate. Women stay closer to the table much more often than men. Men in general rely more on power on the ball, using full swing. Women tend to hit it sooner and play fast angles. Obviously there are exceptions but the general statement is accurate
Liu was playing really well to begin with. At one point of time, Liu had 8 points with Ma scoring the same amount. Ma made the adjustment and game over! Total points played: Ma Long 23:13 Liu Shiwen.
That Ma Long smile @7:02 wraps up the game for me.❤️
Hahhaha that was when even his team mates acknowledged the genius of his opponent
Whenever ma long losses a point, Xu xin laugh in a very funny way😂😂
Probably because Xu lost his match
@@techshortcuts4924 lmaooooo
Yeah because they lose points on purpose
@@Urketadic No, they most certainly don't
@@kaivalyaarora5983 they actually do lmao 🤡
wonder how many gold medals in this room
They taking Olympic gold back to my motherland China
Well... 80+
一帮国人在交流还用英语累不累
not only gold medals but also world number oneSSSSSSS, so crazy
@@蔡捕头-f5n 特累
대단한 선수들입니다.
그리고 대단함과 행복이 같이 있엇으면 좋겠습니다.
Duy nhất môn thể thao đối kháng này có thể thi đấu nam nữ một cách ngang ngửa cân bằng. Thật khâm phục các bạn nữ. Đánh cân bằng với nhà vô địch thế giới nam
Start off Women 8 Men 6
Который раз пересматриваю, каждый раз огромное удовольствие🙂
Ma Long has the best serve in the game!
13:44 Watch Ma Long's prediction as he moved right a step, which I guess is why he won the point
That was hilarious
The score starts at 6:8. I think it significantly limits the stronger side
No shit!
That’s the whole point, they want to train them to play under pressure.
2:34 man.. that’s a lot of world champions in one shot
@Tania Lau it’s not what he said though
where is zhang jike?
日本でもお祭りではなく真剣な男女戦やってほしいと強く希望します
このハンデの付け方といい真剣モードな中にもどちらが勝ってもハッピーな感じ最高なビッグイベントだと思います
もし生で見れたらお客さんも絶対に喜ぶ
東京五輪では日本の次に中国を応援させて頂きます
中国語に翻訳できますか
@@jushingtam3599
I'm sorry☆
@@jushingtam3599 他的意思是“强烈希望日本也举行这种认真的男女对战，而不是那种庙会活动。虽然有差分规则，我想在这种认真的对战模式下不管哪边赢都肯定会让人高兴，成为很棒的大型活动。如果能在现场看肯定观众也会很兴奋。东奥会里日本的下一个我支持中国。”
ハンデがあるのですか？この試合に
中国語がわからない
@@細川鉄平 我が国じゃ無理だべ。女子が男子より強いからねえ…～
Discipline is the key to success..look at the supporters of both players..
It's interesting that Ma Long adjusted his playing style in this match. It's similiar to Timi Boll's one. More control than power-based. For example he doesn't play powerful FH topspin from the left corner but pushes the ball to the straight. Is it just for game with women or new chinese game philosophy?
I think Ma just tried to fool Liu. She was so prepared to receive the side spin.
Yea men let women win points, its game for fun
Dude we have the same name
It was to adjust to liu shiwen playstyle, playing powerful FH on the left would only leave the wide forehand open for counters that liu shiwen is really good at
did I miss something?? why the match starts with 6 - 8 score??
Yes the women have advantage at start
Прекрасное шоу в исполнении великих! К тому же здорово снято.
Estou capitando conhecimentos para ensinar as crianças da minha comunidade, Salvador Bahia.
Muito bom.
Liu Shiwen got the chance to improve her game in case she plays against a really strong female opponent because no female players in the World play better than Ma Long does.
I agree. It benefits more women than men.
Haha, I think it is probably more correct to say "because no players in the World play better than Ma Long does".
Ma Long is not the best player in the World. He did lose to Fang Zhandong and a few other Chinese male players.
@@tomtimor9789 You should have written like this: I agree it benefits women more than it does to men.
No male player in the world plays better than Ma Long does 😉
It's a treat to watch man vs women.. ❤️❤️❤️.. though in totality women will remain superpower..nature law.i lov table tennis...
What the women played with a 2 point advantage in start
其實男和女這樣對賽真的很好看，很有意思，希望將來有機會成為奥運項目
我也希望
很好看哈哈
但是即使有分差
男女賽事還是會有不公平的情況出現
技術不分高低，但男性的臂展比女性大，耐力也更好。
@@Maluis06 什麼不公平情況？
facts: anyone of here stand a chance to get olympic gold medals....
Lol, hilarious how Ma Long casually walk(walk of shame) to the ball at 7:00 after getting smoked and sees his teammates laughing at him. He couldn't help but laugh himself!
6:48 damn the speed
And the FINAL among the winners? please upload the video the final among the winners ...
Just waiting for a team match of
Ma long, fan zhendong, xu xin,
Vs
Chen meng, liu shiwen, ding ning
Ding Ning ended her TT career because she wanted to study at university.
I know pretty sad but she will come back
@@abhirplays411 not really
Wang manyu is a better one.
劉詩雯左手捧球姿勢真好看。
ma long's style is nightmare for woman top players
Ma Long game play is unpredictable..even their women's coach dont know how to beat The Dragon Ma for sure... 💪💪
Fan and Xu played very agressively which they made a lot mistakes too. Ma Long played more control style which makes less mistakes. That makes it hard to female players to win points
@@Aku-mg2go ma long has the same exact style as female players but with a males body and athletism
@@qidongxu7339 makes it hard for any opponent not just women
And can u post your vid while u r playing
How serious and united Chinese players are！
Ma Long has a killer smile at 25.56-26.00. :)
Ма Лонг просто поигрался с ней, давал фору, а когда надо было показывал уровень...
Chen Qi's reaction at 7:00 and 7:15... He's laughing his ass off
Even Ma Long smiled😝
He is the coach of the women's team~~||
@@002ttdkx9 well done after he was sent to feed pigs for a week
中国女乒多产魔王.....我想这是传统练习,只是现在公开了,非常有观赏性,增加乒乓球的趣味度.非常棒,刘胖真👍
fun! thank you for posting.
Ma long really went eay on her.. this man played 6 sets and not sweating at all and also smiling at the end
No wonder why they called The Great Wall...Their superpower of pingpong truly unlimitted
They called the Great Wall "The Great Wall" because it is a great wall.
Liu's shirt is very cool. Really like the design. 🔥
给刘诗雯点赞！❤️
Was this the same tournament where Lin Dan played a few rallies with a badminton racket?
How many points the female allowed to start at of each game?
Ma Long is the most incredible human being.
LOL how did you figure that?
And Djokovic
@@heartmind4267 what the 😄
Ma Long is a gentleman, i didn’t want to humiliate her.
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@@pingsunday Yes, all right, Mr!😁
Since this is an olympic warmup, I guess this is a drill for men to handle the situation when they are down a few points against a weaker non-chinese player in the end of a game.
Exactly. You a have a sharp eye. That's why the game started at 8-9.
@@pingsunday So basically it was a sparring session faking the conditions at Olympics. But there will be no applause in Tokyo. No fans allowed... That is just toooo bad ! Athletes need the noise made by spectators. In such a conditions they might perform differently. (Less adrenalin LOL ).
@@pingsunday The women handled the men well. They only had a slight advantage. It's similar on the U.S, scene. The top U.S. women do well against the top U.S. men and in real tournament conditions.
All TT events at all levels should be mixed. There's no need atall for single gender events.
So the female players are meant to imitate the non-Chinese male players? If that’s what you’re trying to say, then you’re talking nonsense. It was a fun event with the intention to get the players ready for game mode with refs and tournament situations. But the females certainly are not meant to imitate „weaker“ foreign players 😂
@@peterreid9769 It's not a slight advantage when it is so close to match points.
Liu Shiwen is so pretty, too bad she is retired, miss her.
Ma Long was playing at 60%
刘诗雯的关键时刻不太能抗啊，马龙最后那一笑绝了。
Уважение- встаёт тренер, встают все
Did Ma long start with a point disadvantage, or was she able to score that many points against him?
The game starts with 6-8 and 2 points advantages for women
@@pingsunday. why ?
@@winningwinny51 It is called fairness. That's the minimum the men could do.
@@canicetang8837 Another purpose is to test how they handle end games under pressure.
All male players started with 1-2 points disadvantage.
Китайское шоу. Даёт девочке поиграть, даже выиграть где-то. Ну девочка играет классс. Я так не могу
М-да-ааааа...... После просмотра этого видео я понял, что если мужскую сборную Китая по теннису ещё можно победить, то у женской сборной Китая по теннису конкурентов нет. Учитывая ТАКИХ спарринг партнёров!!!!
Я не понимаю, кто выиграл этот матч?
@@chigishan5799
Когда встречаются мужская с женской сборной, женщинам изначально дают ФОРУ В 8 мячей!!!
@@СамоучкаДмитрий аааа, спасибо за ответ
А разве счёт не начинается с 6:8 (мужчина/женщина), т.е. с гандикапом в два очка? Да и сам счёт 6:8, скорее всего, чтобы не утомлять игроков долгим набором очков.
But only Ma Long beat Liu Shiwen and Xu Xin loose Sun Yin Sha and Fan Zhen Dong loose Chen Meng too 😅🏓😅!
Does not prove anything it was handicap matches, in a real game I don't think the women will win because they will not have any advantage to help them. The 2 guys that lost carried them to 7 games so it was not even a run away for the women even with the advantage they had, in a real game there is room for error where u can recover but in this handicap game the men had no room for error dats why they won those 2 sets
You guys are forgetting one major thing here, these are handicap matches so if you handicap someone in any sport you automatically are saying that person is better right so to even the odds ah little bit they handicapped the men. So this was just some entertainment to watch very good table tennis and squabble among ourselves who is better man or woman, lolllllll leave it up to the chinese to come up with something like this and have world wondering, but the answer is already there just look for it the clue HANDICAP
How many points were the odds in each game? 8?
That's what I was thinking 😂
Odd-numbered sets start at 8-6, even ones at 9-8, in favour of the women.
Why does Liu Shiwen's score counter always start at 9? Is she getting a headstart for being hot? On a serious note, nice match.
I have explained it in the video "critical situation". You can search for it
15:19 -- Liu in the background: nice shot young man
At the end of this video you all will bless to see the rare smile of Ma long..😍😍
여자선수 대단합니다
백푸시가 일품이군요
The way they smile at each other in the end is so cute
Fan and XX trying not to laugh @ 4:04.
Why don't we see them play full matches and host mixed tournaments? The level is clearly almost even and it is good practice.
The levels only looks kind of even because of the handicaps and special rules. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the guys would win in landslides every time if they played full matches. There would be no simulation of pressure for the guys and it would be completely demoralizing for the girls. There would not be any useful preparation for any tournaments. That's why they don't do that.
the men is much bttr in a full matches game
Yea there isn’t that big of a gender difference in this sport but the men were still handicapped in these games, every set alternately started at 8-6 and 9-8 in favor of the female.
Yeah in your delusional mind the level is the same, in reality top 200 male player will brat number 1 female player.
@@artkirakosyan2633 Wouldn't say that the top 200 met are better than the top woman.
方博還在隊裡啊
我以為他另謀高就了呢
這有觀眾的呀
怎麼那麼幸運可入場看世界級的球賽啊
观众都是国家队成员
小棗太可愛
Is he making it close on purpose? I expected the difference in level to be much bigger.
Yes hes holding back a lot
ya also they gave the woman extra points because if it was 0-0 ma long will easily beat her
They're both the best Table tennis players in the world.
What are their rankings ? Are they comparable (among their gender) or are they matched so that the game looks equal ?
Ma Long rank 1, of all time 😆
@@prasan7th Is he on peak of his career in this match ? If yes then it's very impressive how the girl could hold her own
@@michaelsshirt8046 no bro he is 32 now but he still won the gold medal he is easily goat. Probably they were told to not take it too seriously so that it would be close to even. If it was a full match it would be gg fast
@@michaelsshirt8046 Ma is currently #2 male and just won an Olympics gold medal, and Liu is #7 female. The games start at either 9-8 or 8-6, which means the female player only need 2 or 3 points to win while the male player need 3 or 5 points to win. The purpose of this match is to train the male player's ability to perform under pressure and female player's ability to play against stronger opponent.
@@gabe6746 Nice, I didn't realize they don't start at 0-0. Anyway the match seems like a lot of fun for both of them and for us as well :-)
I wish Wang Hao and Ma Lin back on the table.
They are not good enough and are too old to play against the current players.
doanh nguyen wang hao is fan zhendongs coach and sometimes rallies with him
7:02 boys are happy
So very kind of MaLong to play at half speed for her to stay in the game. Come on…seriously?
Who are the gentlemen coaching both men and women's teams?
Is this a real thing in tournaments W vs M, or was it just some random exhibition?
It's a simulation match for the players to able to handle the stress during Olympics endgame.
I was asking the same coz Looks like Ma long play serious
@@Roger-yj1vd They are serious. We don't know the bet behind it. Could be a washroom cleaning penalty. : )
I love this training method.
Очень похоже на постановочное шоу,во славу спорта КНР,но с великими спортсменами.
Full Match? With Beginn by 8:9, or 9:9?
Yea, if you listen to the Chinese narration, they start with 6:8 then 8:9 then 6:8 then 8:9 etc.
When Ma Long needs to play with 20% power...
ping pong is not about power
@@alei400 LOL! You misunderstood my comment. And you're still wrong! Power is Energy per unit of time. Every athlete requires energy to perform the skill they have effectively and efficiently. Table tennis a very active game and NOT a passive one like Chess. Strength will always be part of it. jUST GO PLAY WITH YOUR jackstones, and that for sure NOT ABOUT POWER.
@@colorklimax you're wrong. Not much power is required but skills
@@Jc-xp8xp Meh!
刘指导真会玩
Sympathisch finde ich die Feixerei auf den Bänken 🙂
劉詩雯好漂亮
I think table tennis is one of only a few sport arts where the differences of performance between men and women is not that big.
裁判员说英文“擦网”的发音不对。把网说成了光。
17:00 No mercy as he just snipes her with that smash when he lifts his posture/stance up 😅😂
galing naman. chinese boys vs. girls in TT. sana all.
Liu Shiwen struggled a lot against Ma Long, there is a big FH power difference and also the serve/receive game. In a normal game from 0-0 on he would destroy her.
Of course but it is pretty amazing that she is winning points at all against him even if he maybe is not going 100%. Obviously top men are going to overpower top women
@@dominikk8547 not in ping pong
This must be one of the games where women could be better than men.. it doesn’t need the same strength and stamina as other sports
@@gamekid2420 Speed and reflex matters, strength matters too because of certain hard shot returns, if the game started at 0-0 of course the women have no chance, this is more a psychological test when they gave the male players a big handicap to the end of match conditions, in a long match there are more room to make mistakes, but in a short match down 2 points that is about 50-50 chance for male and female, it's well calculated.
@byakugozen he said "could". If a extremly talented girl would be born she could beat men because it is possible in table tennis though it is not likely.
@@gamekid2420 not really. Ping Pong is staminna and core strength game. Men has more muscles which plays key role when combined with technique .
许昕习惯球掉下来后才打击, 马龙习惯球弹到最高点就打击
目光所及之处尽是世界冠军
Congrats ma long, well played even with the disadvantage
Great to see such enthu for TT in one forum
为啥刘国梁做中间，休息时一言不发？
Anyone who thinks these weren't show-matches needs to have his head examined. Why have them in the first place?
I'm impressed by how close this is
why does men v women game always start with men handicap?