I always found it disturbing that just about anyone could drag someone into an asylum and get them committed, especially with how horrifying those asylums were.
It's still happening. I have been involuntarily committed against my will, when I wasn't a threat to anyone or myself. I have spent months being held against my will and had to report before a JUDGE to prove I was of "sound mind" before they would release me. 😢
The thing is, some of the practices connected with humors theory actually work. If it never worked at all, they wouldn’t have kept doing it for over a thousand years. Bloodletting, for example, will temporarily reduce fever and blood pressure. Tea made with willow bark will make your headache go away. Bad smells often do indicate some kind of bacteria, but it’s not the bad smell that kills you. What they didn’t have was the science behind it. When you take aspirin, we now know that the active agent is salicylic acid, and the best dosage for the internal organs (and acne)! We know that there are bacteria in contaminated water, and we don’t drink water that causes cholera.
Dr. Semmelweis was ridiculed, maligned, humiliated and shunned by his fellow “professionals” who could not get past their own egos to consider his research and the benefits to patients. He was determined to do the right thing regardless and unfortunately paid the ultimate price. What an admirable and selfless person he was and thanks for sharing his story.
The irony of only allowing him to operate on manequins and not on real corpses when he was the only doctor in the country who could be trusted to put his hands on a corpse because the other wouldn't wash their hands after doing so...
Poor guy…I wish he could see how important sanitation PPE and sterilization is nowadays. We really need more doctors like him that advocate for mothers and their babies
That is the way of "egos". Sometimes they kill, sometimes they save people. How difficult a way to think about "egos" (or anything, really) instead of deeming them evil or good...!
Yes. Within the last two years, the Cardiology department head at Harvard publicly denounced the Keto diet as unhealthy because everyone gets keto flu. Cardiologists are not required to take nutrition in Med school. So the inflated ego expert doctor pronounced judgement upon a subject that he was completely ignorant about. Keto flu is sodium deficiency, because when someone stops or vastly reduces their carb intake, their kidneys begin dumping stored sodium, and after about two weeks it runs out. Keto flu is prevented by increasing salt intake, and if you increase salt then you should also increase potassium and magnesium intake to maintain a good balance. I learned this by listening to doctors who do know nutrition.
This reminds me of a story from the Civil War. The Confederate surgeons, despite having less and lower-quality supplies, had better survival rates. One thing that was different was sutures. The Union doctors had access to silk thread. The Confederates used horsehair, but it was so stiff they had to boil it to soften it enough to use. It was easier to thread the needle before boiling, so they were accidentally sterilizing their supplies.
@@janemary8339 No, I didn't. If you've ever tried to thread a needle, you know you it's easier the stiffer the thread. And this assured they boiled the needle as well.
In a roundabout way, a similar practice still occurs in the hospitals of today. I work in supply in one of the US' largest hospitals. Regularly I see equipment that is to be used on critically ill patients not being properly cleaned largely because the cleaning staff is overworked and understaffed... so they basically half-ass the job on certain things - particularly the large reusable machines (likely because they're more extensive to clean and take more time). I figure it directly leads to worse patient outcomes (i.e. more patients dying) in our hospital but no one does anything about it. Meanwhile, billion-dollar new facilities (that are pleasing for shareholders) pop up nearly every year while the cleaning staff remains underpaid and staffed with a fraction of the employees necessary to properly sanitize our reusable equipment.
I honestly don’t blame him for saying that their negligence was killing people, he was trying to tell them but they simply ignored him dispite his evidence
@@PROVOCATEURSK I’m agnostic but I definitely believe that Christian extremism is causing huge problems nowadays. Sure I know many people who use it as a tool to help others but others use it to tear down and harm others instead.
I don't think he had evidence, though. Dr. Mike said "invisible particles from dead bodies" were killing people, which is what the other doctors thought, so without proving that, it also made it harder for him to convince the medical community. Honestly, it's weird how people were okay interacting with one another with filthy hands. 🤢
I am proud to be Hungarian as hearing about his story. Thank you Dr. Mike that you show the world the legacy of Ignác Semmelweis ("The Savior of Mothers"- as we often refer to him.)
@Oma_Wetterwachs The problem is a quite ironic situation: Although Semmelweis was a pioneer, now, in the 21st century, Hungary has almost the highest mortality rate related to infections in hospitals.
Happy birthday Dr Mike🎉 Today you remembered Dr Ignaz for what he did. I hope many people all over the world get to remember you in years to come for the medical misinformation and abuse you're combating right now. Much love from Nigeria
He is supporting and promoting genocide. He says he wishes for peace while he promotes genocide propaganda. Many amazing brave doctors and nurses stayed behind with their patients to take care of them and were bombed. They have no more birthdays to celebrate. These are the true heroes. There will be no Peace without Justice.
This story is wild for so many reasons. Why was only this one guy bothered by the high maternal mortality at his hospital? Everyone else who worked there was just like this is fine?
I just had to guess, after knowing someone close with high functioning autism, that he was possibly, high functioning autism/Asperger's... The obsession with a subject matter, meticulousness in gathering data, possible lack of tact that ended up offending the majority of his colleagues and superiors...
Men have been unspeakably cruel to women in their most vulnerable moments for...all of history. Medicine shows this in the most horrific ways. Male doctors have always had a cruel disregard for the birthing woman.
@@thaloblue Their ego is what made them not listen. They only cared about their reputation as doctors and not about their patients. This has nothing to do with men/women specifically.
@@barakingplayz5581 I highly doubt it was only about ego. Do you really think if such a thing was happening with men like if operations on streets were better than by doctors, would doctors have not investigated it earlier? In the case of women they probably threw it on God like they made up story of hysteria
German Midwife here In Germany and Austria we learn about him in our education. He has the German Nickname „Retter der Mütter“ which translates to „Savior of Mothers“ and still to this day his work is recognized and celebrated in the midwife community
Dr Semmelweis is one of my heroes, and he is SO underappreciated for saving billions of lives. I wanna go into medical research in the future and he's one of my biggest inspirations! Thank you Dr Mike for sharing this story 💞
@@markburke1396 Well Louis Pasteur did revolutionise medicine he came after Semmelweis and along w his own work, he proved him right! I think they both saved lives 😄
Eh, he is alright, this format doesnt really suit him that much, there are much better storytellers over animations Dr Mike excells in human interactions and explaining things face to face, and also simplyfing complex concepts for general populaion, those are his best videos, these are fine but wouldnt call them unbelievable, you just dont have good enough frame of reference to compare to other, much better animation storytellers
@Oma_Wetterwachs Im a fan as well, I just dont like the praising of anyone for the sake of praising, people should be praised on things they deserve (and Mike has a lot of those) not on anything they do because they are cute
The University of Medicine of Hungary is named after Semmelweis and he is renowned as the "Saviour of Mothers" in our country. Wonderful story and the coolest animation, thank you, Dr! :)
When my great-grandmother gave birth to my grandmother in 1909 in Arkansas, she insisted that the midwives wash their hands well with soap and water before the delivery. They laughed at her and said she was being ridiculous. She insisted they wash their hands anyway. She and her children were healthy. I guess she was way ahead of her time.
That's smart of her, and good, but.. Here, part of the point (not exactly mentioned by this video) was that using simple soap is not enough. It wasn't that doctors didn't wash hands at all - I don't think they went around with visibly grimy hands all the time... but that there are things that are not cleaned by just water, or even normal soap. The chlorinated lime, or something equally strong, is necessary. Especially for people doing autopsies.
I'm proud I went to Semmelweis Medical University in Budapest which was named after him. Also a new film just came out on his life by the Academy Winner Koltai Lajos. Thank you Dr. Mike for telling this important story.
@Oma_Wetterwachs Huh? I didn't mean to offend. I was merely mocking the arrogance of these "educated" fools that failed to understand that touching rotting flesh, then delivering a baby afterwards was a terrible idea. So many people get schooling, then act as though they are gods that can do no wrong.
I've seen so many videos on this so no new information here for me, but it still gives me chills thinking how many people died needlessly because some stuck-up, self-important, tied-to-tradition old rich dudes couldn't accept they were wrong. Expand this to other situations, and the feelings only get worse. Thanks Dr. Mike for giving this your time!
My mom tells my siblings this story every time they ask "Why do we HAVE to-uhh?" (Read in complainy/exhausted voice), but not with this many details! Thank you for this story, and happy birthday!
Idk man, after decades of proving that cleaning the hands prevented virtually all (in perception) of the deaths in maternity wards, I think it's about time to call your colleagues murderers for caring more about their egos than their patient's lives.
@@spoodersama1455 So sorry. I obviously meant the doctor clinics, the ones run by doctors and not midwives, that also dealt with autopsies and didn't listen to the doctor who spent decades proving less women would die 😒
I loved this! Can you please do more medical history videos?! I think we take for granted all the modern medical & hygiene practices we have today. I think we need to re-educate people. We've gotten comfortable & forgot why we do what we do. ❤
As a med student who joined med school this year in India... during my foundation week our professor told us this story... during importance of washing hand session It's feels good to hear the same story from you Dr Mike ❤❤❤
Highly recommend people to take a History of Medicine class!! Super interesting! I learned about this (a part from how he died!) in a History of Medicine class in undergrad. The other doctors were just so salty that another doctor was telling them they were basically killing patients because of their stubbornness. Which makes all of the deaths by their hands so pointless and irresponsible because they could have totally just done their own experiments and saw for themselves. Such an easy thing to test and change and it was all because of ego that they didn’t want to change how they were working.
Doctor mike, just wanna let you know as someone with autism and potential adhd, i literally never click off your videos or get distracted. It takes almost 20 minutes or more to complete a 8 minute video since i often get distracted by other videos or the comments no matter how much i enjoy or love the youtuber i'm watching lol. You're just very interesting and funny and i love your videos♡
I have ADHD and it's the same for me, I love his videos. He talks about medicine, but he makes it fun to watch, so it captures my attention and keeps me watching
I can relate to this story, not as a doctor, but as a patient. For 13 years, I experienced a myriad of symptoms every single day. I *KNEW* something was wrong, but no one believed me. Not friends, not family, not doctors. Everyone accused me of faking it. I was starting to think I was crazy. But I pressed on, and after 13 years, I got diagnosed with hypermobile Ehlers Danlos syndrome. Since then, I have been diagnosed with TWELVE additional illnesses. And no, I did not just go to a bunch of doctors until I heard what I wanted to hear. These are illnesses that showed up clearly on tests and examinations. If I had listened to everyone else, who were SO SURE they knew everything and I knew nothing, I wouldn't have made it this far into my medical journey. One of my treatments is even life-saving, so I might even be dead had I listened to them. I got the last laugh. I'M RIGHT. THEY'RE WRONG. Always question everything, especially people you think you can trust. Unfortunately, my fight is still not over. I recently visited a neuropsychologist, and he accused me of faking all my medical problems. I wasn't even there to see him about my physical problems. The only reason I brought them up ONCE is because he specifically asked for a medical history. My job as my own advocate is never done. But I will take today's video as inspiration to never stop believing in myself and to never give up. My darkest moments are exactly when I need to keep going the most. Thank you for sharing this video.
Sorry you had to go through that, I won't even go and see a doctor anymore even though I've been really needing to for years for a myriad of reasons, but I think that's mainly because i've become really agoraphobic and kinda spiraled out of control to the point I even ignored my lungs filling with fluid for a few months not too long ago alongside really bad heart pains that were radiating up my neck and shoulder, just to avoid seeing people. That was the second time it's happened since January but this time was worse and took much longer to recover. I just kinda let it happen even though I know I can solve it all simply by reaching out, I just feel like I can't do it.
@@Decay19XX I'm so sorry you're scared. I hope you one day find the courage to seek out medical help so that you can feel better and live the healthy life you deserve. Don't take my words as a caution against all doctors. Just take them as a caution against all doctors as well as a means to find the courage to not give up.
I truly love and appreciate your holistic approach to medicine and treating the whole person. Maybe someday we'll get a Semmelweis reflex video of you and modern day vaccines as they are being pushed far more than when they were originally intended to help. We had commercials for healthy reasons to smoke cigarettes and now find out we were drawn astray.
i actually just went down a rabbit hole into this story a couple days ago! im so excited to watch this. EDIT: This was an incredible watch! I LOVE seeing this style and learning about advances in medical history. I hope you do more videos like this!
going down a rabbit hole doesn't always mean researching or falling into stuff where nothing makes sense. sometimes it's getting distracted and learning more about something than you intended! i work for a data company and was just looking up random stuff to do further research on. i'm primarily a plant science major, but take a lot of biology classes, so i was looking into some biology stuff. one click on a biologist lead to another and then other types of doctors and researchers until i got to dr. john snow and his contributions to medicine and his working theories were really close to semmelweis, and then boom lmao. started off somewhere very different until i got there. but thank you!@rileynguyen8880
I think it's hard to admit that a daily practice caused death of many who could simply live - just as simply is nature of a childbirth. Learning on your mistakes was also few years away. Funfact: burying the dead in Japan back in a days was considered unclean practice, graveworkers use to live outside the community to not bring death to people. Great storytelling. Always waiting for some from you!
Thanks for uploading this. it's a very powerful story of how being right isn't enough for people to listen, and people listening doesn't mean something's right
i am currently taking GCSE history and last year we did the history of medicine, this is a great video demonstrating the beliefs they had in the renaissance period about the Four Humours and Miasma!
Night vapors fascinates me because I have so, so many allergies. I honestly have walked outdoors for brief periods of time and returned home feeling sabotaged or poisoned somehow because of what I'm allergic to and how my body responds. It feels to me that they were sort of onto something, but they had no concept of pollen, mold, or dander. Our schedules are very different from three centuries ago because of electricity, so all the work and travel was done outdoors in the daytime with the gathering, settling, and sleeping done during the evening. If there was mold in your bedroom, or you were allergic to the type of wood being burned in your fireplace, and all you know is that one minute you were breathing and another moment you felt very ill, the concept of miasma makes sense. I'm lucky to be alive at this time. I am definitely quite close to your average sickly Victorian child. I wouldn't have stood a chance if we didn't have antibiotics.
Happpy birthday doctor mike 🎊 🎉, wishing u lots of happiness and good health a head of you …thank u for everything ur doing and thank u for educating us and being an inspiration. Hope u have a great day ❤
I can remember reading and article many years ago about why so many women died after giving birth before the advent of handwashing between ppatients. It had to do with doctors going from one new mother to the another, doing internal examinations and then just moving on to the next and the next with contaminated hands. Many mothers in the past died from what was then called birthing bed fevers where they contracted an infection caused by bacteria before or after giving birth, which we now know is caused by toxic shock dyndrom, something I developed after the birth of my oldest daughter, and would have died from 40 years ago if not for modern antibiotics.
19th century medicine and death is a fascinating subject. There is a great documentary series called Hidden Killers on how even the most common household items in Victorian era were deadly.
I don't mean this meanly at all, it's actually rather adorable: Dr. Mike tells stories in a fashion similar to show some elementary school teachers read to children. I don't mean he sounds condescending, I mean those teachers you had that use slightly more voice inflection and stuff like that to keep kids' attention.
He also explains things well. Finding a great balance between giving enough detail and making it simple enough to understand. And he adds some great comedy. I wish more teachers knew how to teach like him ❤
This story just shows the lengths people will go to deny any claims that they're wrong and refuse to change. God bless Ignus(or however you spell his name)
Superb. Imagine how many people we save every time we are willing to drop our old, outdated beliefs. More vids like this, please! PS Do you know about Dr James Barry, the first woman surgeon in the UK, who dressed as a man to study medicine, became the UK Army's Inspector General and attended the world's first successful Caesarian in which both mother and child survived? Her gender was only revealed after she died. An amazing story - could this be the topic of a video too?
Happy birthday, Doctor Mike!! 🎉 Thank you for pushing forward someone who's not very well known... even though Dr. Semmelweis is responsible for starting one of the most critical hygiene practices in everyday life.
Ego still plays a big role in the medical world. This is why I will always consider what "quacks" and "fringe" medical doctors have to say. They all have access to the same information, yet a few come out with different opinions and conclusions. And sometimes, those same doctors are willing to lose their license and become ostracized for speaking out. Listen to those doctors, too. Then, use your own reason, logic, and common sense to reach a conclusion.
Heard about it on your “The checkup” podcast one day and wanted to do some research on the topic but here you are, with the brilliant animated video and great storytelling. ❤ So sad to know that the doctor died 😢
To echo what others have said, your engaging storytelling along with the illustrations/animation makes these important events from history so interesting to learn about!
Man, Dr. Ignaz was a true scientist! It's tragic that not only he didn't get recognition during his time, but was even killed eventually. The decrease in mortality rates that he achieved with his hygiene practices should have been more than enough to warrant changes (regardless of the explanation), which only goes to show that pride and confirmation bias really get in the way of progress (and science).
@@MACTEP_CHOB I mean, anything involving humans is prone to problems (we're not perfect), but science has undeniably advanced human knowledge and improved lives. Third-party interests can definitely get in the way of it (or influence it negatively, introducing biases), but I feel most people who become scientists are genuinely interested in it (greed doesn't seem to be as big a factor, since financial rewards are low compared to other activities, breakthroughs are hard to achieve, and they typically have to work long hours - not only as researchers, but also as professors).
A wonderful fact you have presented... Whole world should be gratefui to this doctor. Perhaps I am able to write this today because of that great doctor!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY DOCTOR MIKEEEE!!! watching you has taught me so much, and has infinitely inspired me to do much better in my academics (oh yeah im so becoming a doctor) and health wise as well!! sending you lots of love and hope you continue to peewoop your way through life!! ❤️
Am I the only one who thinks that the instinct to reject new facts that go against what we think we know should have been named after the supervisor who fired him and not Ignis?
Happy birthday Dr Mike, I trust you are having a wonderful day🎉. There are many incidents within history, of Dr's being lambasted for their beliefs. The practice still continues, but we don't disgrace people as much, we do trials. We have a lot to thank Dr's from the past, present to the future of medicine. We are constantly evolving. 😊
My great grandmother was a midwife- without any formal training- but she was very good according to her patients… also practice of washing hands was very common in many cultures since BC times… I don’t understand why some places like Vienna rejected such a practice
Interestingly ancient religions such as Judaism prescribed ritual washing after touching any dead body, human or animal. People were considered unclean until they did the prescribed washing of hands feet and sometimes entire body.
Yes, some of the rules in religious text have really practical usefulness... but also, here, part of the point (not exactly mentioned by this video) was that using simple soap is not always enough. It wasn't that doctors didn't wash hands at all - I don't think they went around with visibly grimy hands all the time... but that there are things that are not cleaned by just water, or even normal soap. The chlorinated lime, or something equally strong, is necessary. Especially for people doing autopsies.
@@EmeraldWings90yup i find it ridiculous doctors weren't washing their hands probably some bacterias in autopsy needed more than soap to eliminate them.
I always found it disturbing that just about anyone could drag someone into an asylum and get them committed, especially with how horrifying those asylums were.
They did change the laws eventually.
I still got sa'd beat n gaslight at todays institutions in cape town. I did get scared into behaving normally. The pills helped the most.
Right!
It's still happening. I have been involuntarily committed against my will, when I wasn't a threat to anyone or myself. I have spent months being held against my will and had to report before a JUDGE to prove I was of "sound mind" before they would release me. 😢
Yep, those were the times you can start a rumor and get someone admitted in an asylum against their will
Shows how much humans grab on to traditional practices, regardless of how obviously hurtful they are.
reminds me of *cough cough sexuality
Anti vaxxers
Ah, religion
THAT!!!!
The thing is, some of the practices connected with humors theory actually work. If it never worked at all, they wouldn’t have kept doing it for over a thousand years. Bloodletting, for example, will temporarily reduce fever and blood pressure. Tea made with willow bark will make your headache go away. Bad smells often do indicate some kind of bacteria, but it’s not the bad smell that kills you. What they didn’t have was the science behind it. When you take aspirin, we now know that the active agent is salicylic acid, and the best dosage for the internal organs (and acne)! We know that there are bacteria in contaminated water, and we don’t drink water that causes cholera.
Dr. Semmelweis was ridiculed, maligned, humiliated and shunned by his fellow “professionals” who could not get past their own egos to consider his research and the benefits to patients. He was determined to do the right thing regardless and unfortunately paid the ultimate price. What an admirable and selfless person he was and thanks for sharing his story.
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The irony of only allowing him to operate on manequins and not on real corpses when he was the only doctor in the country who could be trusted to put his hands on a corpse because the other wouldn't wash their hands after doing so...
Poor guy…I wish he could see how important sanitation PPE and sterilization is nowadays. We really need more doctors like him that advocate for mothers and their babies
It's a horror story
The entire time I'm watching this I'm thinking, "So, essentially, their egos killed people."
Still happens today, unfortunately.
That is the way of "egos". Sometimes they kill, sometimes they save people. How difficult a way to think about "egos" (or anything, really) instead of deeming them evil or good...!
Yes. Within the last two years, the Cardiology department head at Harvard publicly denounced the Keto diet as unhealthy because everyone gets keto flu. Cardiologists are not required to take nutrition in Med school. So the inflated ego expert doctor pronounced judgement upon a subject that he was completely ignorant about. Keto flu is sodium deficiency, because when someone stops or vastly reduces their carb intake, their kidneys begin dumping stored sodium, and after about two weeks it runs out. Keto flu is prevented by increasing salt intake, and if you increase salt then you should also increase potassium and magnesium intake to maintain a good balance. I learned this by listening to doctors who do know nutrition.
Circumcision only exists because of this.
their egos and the mental health care system, and both still happen today
We've been dominance driven animals for thousands of years, a hundred years would not change much😔
This reminds me of a story from the Civil War. The Confederate surgeons, despite having less and lower-quality supplies, had better survival rates. One thing that was different was sutures. The Union doctors had access to silk thread. The Confederates used horsehair, but it was so stiff they had to boil it to soften it enough to use. It was easier to thread the needle before boiling, so they were accidentally sterilizing their supplies.
That's so interesting! I love facts like this 🤯
Haha that's incredible. It's crazy that something like germs is such basic knowledge today but it was a wild theory back in the day.
I think you meant "to thread the needle *after* boiling"
@@janemary8339 no, that's the key point: by threading them before boiling the horse hair, the needles got boiled (therefore sterilized) as well :)
@@janemary8339 No, I didn't. If you've ever tried to thread a needle, you know you it's easier the stiffer the thread. And this assured they boiled the needle as well.
Dr. Semmelweiss's story is a great illustration of what they teach in law school: it doesn't matter how right you may be if no one likes you.
So true. So human!🦋
That's a law thing. Science is to save lives.
That's true and a proof of how idiotic the average person is. 🤦🏻♂️
Story of my life
@@commonsense571 what do you know? You are a cat!
As a surgeon, the concept of not washing your hands before treating patients is inconceivable. Thankful for this medical pioneer!
In a roundabout way, a similar practice still occurs in the hospitals of today. I work in supply in one of the US' largest hospitals. Regularly I see equipment that is to be used on critically ill patients not being properly cleaned largely because the cleaning staff is overworked and understaffed... so they basically half-ass the job on certain things - particularly the large reusable machines (likely because they're more extensive to clean and take more time). I figure it directly leads to worse patient outcomes (i.e. more patients dying) in our hospital but no one does anything about it. Meanwhile, billion-dollar new facilities (that are pleasing for shareholders) pop up nearly every year while the cleaning staff remains underpaid and staffed with a fraction of the employees necessary to properly sanitize our reusable equipment.
One would think one of the commandments would be “thou shall wash thy hands”. Apparently the god was unaware of germs at the time.
It’s so sad how he was treated by so many, but he was literally a hero!
I honestly don’t blame him for saying that their negligence was killing people, he was trying to tell them but they simply ignored him dispite his evidence
This is how any atheist feels with the evil religious people.
@@PROVOCATEURSK I’m agnostic but I definitely believe that Christian extremism is causing huge problems nowadays. Sure I know many people who use it as a tool to help others but others use it to tear down and harm others instead.
What?@@PROVOCATEURSK
I don't think he had evidence, though. Dr. Mike said "invisible particles from dead bodies" were killing people, which is what the other doctors thought, so without proving that, it also made it harder for him to convince the medical community. Honestly, it's weird how people were okay interacting with one another with filthy hands. 🤢
@@PROVOCATEURSKDon’t bring religion into something that isn’t religious
I am proud to be Hungarian as hearing about his story. Thank you Dr. Mike that you show the world the legacy of Ignác Semmelweis ("The Savior of Mothers"- as we often refer to him.)
igen, én is ezt szerettem volna leírni:)
and our healthcare system sorta came in a circle...
@Oma_Wetterwachs The problem is a quite ironic situation: Although Semmelweis was a pioneer, now, in the 21st century, Hungary has almost the highest mortality rate related to infections in hospitals.
Én is ezt akartam írni, de jól leírtad😊
That's such a wonderful title for him! Great! I love it! 😀
Happy birthday Dr Mike🎉
Today you remembered Dr Ignaz for what he did.
I hope many people all over the world get to remember you in years to come for the medical misinformation and abuse you're combating right now.
Much love from Nigeria
Love from ethiopia
I'm in nigeria too
I am Nigerian toooo😭😭😭😭
He is supporting and promoting genocide. He says he wishes for peace while he promotes genocide propaganda. Many amazing brave doctors and nurses stayed behind with their patients to take care of them and were bombed. They have no more birthdays to celebrate. These are the true heroes. There will be no Peace without Justice.
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This story is wild for so many reasons. Why was only this one guy bothered by the high maternal mortality at his hospital? Everyone else who worked there was just like this is fine?
I just had to guess, after knowing someone close with high functioning autism, that he was possibly, high functioning autism/Asperger's...
The obsession with a subject matter, meticulousness in gathering data, possible lack of tact that ended up offending the majority of his colleagues and superiors...
Yes, men can't be bothered to care about whether women are happy or alive. They summed it up to Eve's curse and gave up.
Men have been unspeakably cruel to women in their most vulnerable moments for...all of history. Medicine shows this in the most horrific ways. Male doctors have always had a cruel disregard for the birthing woman.
@@thaloblue Their ego is what made them not listen. They only cared about their reputation as doctors and not about their patients. This has nothing to do with men/women specifically.
@@barakingplayz5581 I highly doubt it was only about ego.
Do you really think if such a thing was happening with men like if operations on streets were better than by doctors, would doctors have not investigated it earlier?
In the case of women they probably threw it on God like they made up story of hysteria
German Midwife here
In Germany and Austria we learn about him in our education. He has the German Nickname „Retter der Mütter“ which translates to „Savior of Mothers“ and still to this day his work is recognized and celebrated in the midwife community
In Hungary too. Az anyák megmentője
Dr Semmelweis is one of my heroes, and he is SO underappreciated for saving billions of lives. I wanna go into medical research in the future and he's one of my biggest inspirations! Thank you Dr Mike for sharing this story 💞
I hope you get your wish.
I wish you well! Maybe one day we'll be seeing you in the news, changing medical history :)
But after listening to the story, it was Louis Pasteur that saved Billions of lives not actually Dr. Semmelweis.
@@markburke1396 Well Louis Pasteur did revolutionise medicine he came after Semmelweis and along w his own work, he proved him right! I think they both saved lives 😄
@@YourPalKindred aaaah thank you 😅💞
He saved so many lives, yet was treated so badly by the community, it's heartbreaking.
Edit: Speaking of Drs being unethical... 😬
In many ways he’s accusing his fellow doctors of malpractice.
Instead of checking whether he was right, they silenced him.
Dr Mikes Story telling is unbelievable. He makes what normally would bore most people, sound so much more interesting and so much easier to listen to
I mean this is definitely not boring
Exactly. Not to mention he's incredibly handsome 😊
I think the editing helps a lot.
Eh, he is alright, this format doesnt really suit him that much, there are much better storytellers over animations
Dr Mike excells in human interactions and explaining things face to face, and also simplyfing complex concepts for general populaion, those are his best videos, these are fine but wouldnt call them unbelievable, you just dont have good enough frame of reference to compare to other, much better animation storytellers
@Oma_Wetterwachs Im a fan as well, I just dont like the praising of anyone for the sake of praising, people should be praised on things they deserve (and Mike has a lot of those) not on anything they do because they are cute
The University of Medicine of Hungary is named after Semmelweis and he is renowned as the "Saviour of Mothers" in our country.
Wonderful story and the coolest animation, thank you, Dr! :)
This was some fascinating, yet tragic history. Semmelweis and his persistent desire to improve patient outcomes is so admirable! Thank you Dr. Mike 🤍
When my great-grandmother gave birth to my grandmother in 1909 in Arkansas, she insisted that the midwives wash their hands well with soap and water before the delivery. They laughed at her and said she was being ridiculous. She insisted they wash their hands anyway. She and her children were healthy. I guess she was way ahead of her time.
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That's smart of her, and good, but.. Here, part of the point (not exactly mentioned by this video) was that using simple soap is not enough. It wasn't that doctors didn't wash hands at all - I don't think they went around with visibly grimy hands all the time... but that there are things that are not cleaned by just water, or even normal soap. The chlorinated lime, or something equally strong, is necessary. Especially for people doing autopsies.
Idk about way ahead she just had common sense. The Muslim world has been practicing routine hygiene for 1600 years
Was she from around Austria or Hungary?
Moral: the ego blinds our reasons. We should be humbles. This doctor really loved his patients.
I'm proud I went to Semmelweis Medical University in Budapest which was named after him. Also a new film just came out on his life by the Academy Winner Koltai Lajos. Thank you Dr. Mike for telling this important story.
What's the name of the movie, please?
The name of the movie is Semmelweis
the film is already out?
@loganmacgyver2625 the 30th of this month from what I've seen
@@oscarg14100 I might watch it on the day of the premier like Oppenheimer lol
I have never never in life watch a doctor's UA-cam channel but today I saw your videos and watch this one and I love it .
This is possibly my favorite of all your videos. I think stories like this need to be highlighted more often. Great video!
You know something’s really wrong if giving birth on the street is better than a doctor
Just told mother I’m famous
But I went to college!
@Oma_Wetterwachs Huh? I didn't mean to offend.
I was merely mocking the arrogance of these "educated" fools that failed to understand that touching rotting flesh, then delivering a baby afterwards was a terrible idea.
So many people get schooling, then act as though they are gods that can do no wrong.
So true. My god, thinking you're going to die if you go into the doctor's ward to have your baby...
because why change what you are doing now based on observations when you could blindly follow a book written millennia ago?
@@Diaphatdid your mom go to college gosh!!
Greeting from an Austrian Nurse 😊 thanks for highlighting Semmelweis as one of the true pioneers of hygiene and microbiology 🫶🏻
This story really shows that people would rather cover their ears and stick to their beliefs instead of hearing someone out
Reminds me of đȢ̳
This is so sad! Thank goodness for his perseverance and determination to help people! His findings literally saved millions and millions of people!
I've seen so many videos on this so no new information here for me, but it still gives me chills thinking how many people died needlessly because some stuck-up, self-important, tied-to-tradition old rich dudes couldn't accept they were wrong. Expand this to other situations, and the feelings only get worse. Thanks Dr. Mike for giving this your time!
Happy Birthday Mike! As a hungarian, i'm proud of Semmelweis Ignaz! We label him as "mother's savior"
And once again, Hungarians are trying to save Europe
My mom tells my siblings this story every time they ask "Why do we HAVE to-uhh?" (Read in complainy/exhausted voice), but not with this many details! Thank you for this story, and happy birthday!
Idk man, after decades of proving that cleaning the hands prevented virtually all (in perception) of the deaths in maternity wards, I think it's about time to call your colleagues murderers for caring more about their egos than their patient's lives.
And then they really murdered their accuser (albeit indirectly), the irony.
@@hawkeye7527 The bigger irony was how they killed him. The same way the doctor that started his theory did. Infection through a hand wound
Well, that’s kind of a sweeping accusation isn’t it??!
@taylorraw3947 the video said that the maternity wards just didn't do work on dead bodies not that they clean their hands
@@spoodersama1455 So sorry. I obviously meant the doctor clinics, the ones run by doctors and not midwives, that also dealt with autopsies and didn't listen to the doctor who spent decades proving less women would die 😒
I loved this! Can you please do more medical history videos?!
I think we take for granted all the modern medical & hygiene practices we have today. I think we need to re-educate people. We've gotten comfortable & forgot why we do what we do. ❤
As a med student who joined med school this year in India... during my foundation week our professor told us this story... during importance of washing hand session
It's feels good to hear the same story from you Dr Mike
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Highly recommend people to take a History of Medicine class!! Super interesting! I learned about this (a part from how he died!) in a History of Medicine class in undergrad. The other doctors were just so salty that another doctor was telling them they were basically killing patients because of their stubbornness. Which makes all of the deaths by their hands so pointless and irresponsible because they could have totally just done their own experiments and saw for themselves. Such an easy thing to test and change and it was all because of ego that they didn’t want to change how they were working.
Bruised egos have gotten many people killed throughout history.
Happy birthday, Dr. Varshavski. 34 years young and educating millions of people on healthcare every day. Have a blessed day, sir.
"No man is more hated then he who speaks the truth"
- Plato
I had conflated this story with that of Joseph Lister. Another great doctor who knew the importance of washing your hands
What a crazy story that I’d never heard before, thanks so much for sharing!
Doctor mike, just wanna let you know as someone with autism and potential adhd, i literally never click off your videos or get distracted. It takes almost 20 minutes or more to complete a 8 minute video since i often get distracted by other videos or the comments no matter how much i enjoy or love the youtuber i'm watching lol. You're just very interesting and funny and i love your videos♡
I have ADHD and it's the same for me, I love his videos. He talks about medicine, but he makes it fun to watch, so it captures my attention and keeps me watching
I can relate to this story, not as a doctor, but as a patient.
For 13 years, I experienced a myriad of symptoms every single day. I *KNEW* something was wrong, but no one believed me. Not friends, not family, not doctors. Everyone accused me of faking it. I was starting to think I was crazy. But I pressed on, and after 13 years, I got diagnosed with hypermobile Ehlers Danlos syndrome. Since then, I have been diagnosed with TWELVE additional illnesses. And no, I did not just go to a bunch of doctors until I heard what I wanted to hear. These are illnesses that showed up clearly on tests and examinations.
If I had listened to everyone else, who were SO SURE they knew everything and I knew nothing, I wouldn't have made it this far into my medical journey. One of my treatments is even life-saving, so I might even be dead had I listened to them.
I got the last laugh. I'M RIGHT. THEY'RE WRONG. Always question everything, especially people you think you can trust.
Unfortunately, my fight is still not over. I recently visited a neuropsychologist, and he accused me of faking all my medical problems. I wasn't even there to see him about my physical problems. The only reason I brought them up ONCE is because he specifically asked for a medical history. My job as my own advocate is never done.
But I will take today's video as inspiration to never stop believing in myself and to never give up. My darkest moments are exactly when I need to keep going the most.
Thank you for sharing this video.
Sorry you had to go through that, I won't even go and see a doctor anymore even though I've been really needing to for years for a myriad of reasons, but I think that's mainly because i've become really agoraphobic and kinda spiraled out of control to the point I even ignored my lungs filling with fluid for a few months not too long ago alongside really bad heart pains that were radiating up my neck and shoulder, just to avoid seeing people. That was the second time it's happened since January but this time was worse and took much longer to recover. I just kinda let it happen even though I know I can solve it all simply by reaching out, I just feel like I can't do it.
@@Decay19XX I'm so sorry you're scared. I hope you one day find the courage to seek out medical help so that you can feel better and live the healthy life you deserve. Don't take my words as a caution against all doctors. Just take them as a caution against all doctors as well as a means to find the courage to not give up.
Their audacity is still going strong.
we need more medical history stories
yes please! I love it
I agree
That's how science goes...the scientists ahead of their time get called crazy, and conspiracy theorists. This still happens to this day.
I truly love and appreciate your holistic approach to medicine and treating the whole person. Maybe someday we'll get a Semmelweis reflex video of you and modern day vaccines as they are being pushed far more than when they were originally intended to help. We had commercials for healthy reasons to smoke cigarettes and now find out we were drawn astray.
dr. mike teaches me more than all my teachers combined.
( okay i’ve created ww3 in the comments 😭 )
Facts
This is more factual than what they teach us lol
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Yep he is more handsome than all teachers combined ☺️
Pay attention in class
as a Hungarian, I appreciate the proper pronunciation of Budapest (and this whole video. and you, Doctor Mike!)
how is this mispronounced? I've never heard it any way except the correct way so I am curious.
@@ultimateskillchain the "'s" is often mispronounced as the "s" in "silent", while the correct way is like the "s" in "short"
@@ultimateskillchain"s" is "sh" and "a" is between English "o" and "a" like "hot" in RP accent. So it's 'Budopesht'
@@aqua5516 thanks, yeah that's how I tend to hear it most often so I didn't realise the incorrect way was common :) cheers
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i actually just went down a rabbit hole into this story a couple days ago! im so excited to watch this. EDIT: This was an incredible watch! I LOVE seeing this style and learning about advances in medical history. I hope you do more videos like this!
going down a rabbit hole doesn't always mean researching or falling into stuff where nothing makes sense. sometimes it's getting distracted and learning more about something than you intended! i work for a data company and was just looking up random stuff to do further research on. i'm primarily a plant science major, but take a lot of biology classes, so i was looking into some biology stuff. one click on a biologist lead to another and then other types of doctors and researchers until i got to dr. john snow and his contributions to medicine and his working theories were really close to semmelweis, and then boom lmao. started off somewhere very different until i got there. but thank you!@rileynguyen8880
0:13 micheal jackson:
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Happy birthday doctor Mike I hope you have a great time today surrounded by your family and friends I send you a big hug for you 🎂🎉🎊
I think it's hard to admit that a daily practice caused death of many who could simply live - just as simply is nature of a childbirth. Learning on your mistakes was also few years away.
Funfact: burying the dead in Japan back in a days was considered unclean practice, graveworkers use to live outside the community to not bring death to people.
Great storytelling. Always waiting for some from you!
@deannal.newton9772 They have limited space, come find videos about their hi-tech memorials, something from another planet indeed.
I love that you provide visuals for your stories. It brings some fun into learning.
Hi I’m also from Hungary like Ignác and I’m so happy to see creators like you (especially cuz ur my favorite UA-camr and doctor) talk about this ❤
It was such an important part of the history to know and you explained it in such a beautiful way.
Thanks for uploading this. it's a very powerful story of how being right isn't enough for people to listen, and people listening doesn't mean something's right
I did a school report on him, it was insane.
I'm so grateful that Dr. Mike's channel is still going after all these years.
I live in Vienna, Austria, not far from the former Semmelweis Klinik and his story always fascinated me. thanks for telling it!
Unlike on other UA-cam channels, I actually learned something here! Kudos to you, Dr. Mike.
i am currently taking GCSE history and last year we did the history of medicine, this is a great video demonstrating the beliefs they had in the renaissance period about the Four Humours and Miasma!
Night vapors fascinates me because I have so, so many allergies. I honestly have walked outdoors for brief periods of time and returned home feeling sabotaged or poisoned somehow because of what I'm allergic to and how my body responds. It feels to me that they were sort of onto something, but they had no concept of pollen, mold, or dander. Our schedules are very different from three centuries ago because of electricity, so all the work and travel was done outdoors in the daytime with the gathering, settling, and sleeping done during the evening. If there was mold in your bedroom, or you were allergic to the type of wood being burned in your fireplace, and all you know is that one minute you were breathing and another moment you felt very ill, the concept of miasma makes sense.
I'm lucky to be alive at this time. I am definitely quite close to your average sickly Victorian child. I wouldn't have stood a chance if we didn't have antibiotics.
Happpy birthday doctor mike 🎊 🎉, wishing u lots of happiness and good health a head of you …thank u for everything ur doing and thank u for educating us and being an inspiration. Hope u have a great day ❤
I can remember reading and article many years ago about why so many women died after giving birth before the advent of handwashing between ppatients. It had to do with doctors going from one new mother to the another, doing internal examinations and then just moving on to the next and the next with contaminated hands. Many mothers in the past died from what was then called birthing bed fevers where they contracted an infection caused by bacteria before or after giving birth, which we now know is caused by toxic shock dyndrom, something I developed after the birth of my oldest daughter, and would have died from 40 years ago if not for modern antibiotics.
Wait did your doctor not wash his hands???
This is the goat of all thumbnails
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19th century medicine and death is a fascinating subject. There is a great documentary series called Hidden Killers on how even the most common household items in Victorian era were deadly.
Happy birthday, Doctor Mike!! Thanks for sharing this fascinating and important story as well as keeping knowledge and truth on the internet.
I don't mean this meanly at all, it's actually rather adorable: Dr. Mike tells stories in a fashion similar to show some elementary school teachers read to children. I don't mean he sounds condescending, I mean those teachers you had that use slightly more voice inflection and stuff like that to keep kids' attention.
He also explains things well. Finding a great balance between giving enough detail and making it simple enough to understand. And he adds some great comedy. I wish more teachers knew how to teach like him ❤
Wow, great information, thanks Dr mike!
This story just shows the lengths people will go to deny any claims that they're wrong and refuse to change. God bless Ignus(or however you spell his name)
Ignaz, and it's pronounced Ignahtz
A movie will come out about Semmelweis in Hungary soon.
Hungarians are very proud of him.
Also, the animation is 👌
Happy birthday, Dr. Mike!
We are very proud of him!
@@krisztianunpronounceable What's up with your prof picture? It makes me f*cking uncomfortable.
Is that a 'Nyilasok' symbol???
Thanks, I`ll check it out
This is kind of sad. Imagine what more he could have accomplished had he not been left for dead. Feed me all the medical history doc I’m obsessed 👏🏼👏🏼
The thumbnail on this tho 💀
exactly i was about to say that
He's the kind of Dr we need, see and issue and try very very hard to find out what the problem is!!
Fast forward to 2019 and the world balks at the idea of wearing a mask and washing your hands. We come a long ways.
((not really))
His video’s honestly teach me so much. I love these videos
Superb. Imagine how many people we save every time we are willing to drop our old, outdated beliefs. More vids like this, please! PS Do you know about Dr James Barry, the first woman surgeon in the UK, who dressed as a man to study medicine, became the UK Army's Inspector General and attended the world's first successful Caesarian in which both mother and child survived? Her gender was only revealed after she died. An amazing story - could this be the topic of a video too?
Dr. Mike, you are probably the best UA-camr I’ve ever watched in the whole entire world. I love you, Dr. Mike love Joseph.
It's so sad that heroes only get the respect they deserved all along until after they've already passed 😔
Just hearing about the term Semmelweis Reflex is wild considering we're bombarded with cases of it every day by science deniers and politicians.
science is not scientism, bruh, many corrupt ppl there too
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Happy birthday, Doctor Mike!! 🎉
Thank you for pushing forward someone who's not very well known... even though Dr. Semmelweis is responsible for starting one of the most critical hygiene practices in everyday life.
Ego still plays a big role in the medical world. This is why I will always consider what "quacks" and "fringe" medical doctors have to say. They all have access to the same information, yet a few come out with different opinions and conclusions. And sometimes, those same doctors are willing to lose their license and become ostracized for speaking out. Listen to those doctors, too. Then, use your own reason, logic, and common sense to reach a conclusion.
Please do more stories like this! This was a whole movie production and i loved it.
Heard about it on your “The checkup” podcast one day and wanted to do some research on the topic but here you are, with the brilliant animated video and great storytelling. ❤ So sad to know that the doctor died 😢
To echo what others have said, your engaging storytelling along with the illustrations/animation makes these important events from history so interesting to learn about!
I remember being taught this when I was in primary school (in Hungary) but it was never this interesting. Great story, thanks for sharing Doctor Mike.
Man, Dr. Ignaz was a true scientist! It's tragic that not only he didn't get recognition during his time, but was even killed eventually. The decrease in mortality rates that he achieved with his hygiene practices should have been more than enough to warrant changes (regardless of the explanation), which only goes to show that pride and confirmation bias really get in the way of progress (and science).
We should always keep in mind that there isn't just mystical `science`
They are institutions, bureaucracy and greedy careerists.
@@MACTEP_CHOB I mean, anything involving humans is prone to problems (we're not perfect), but science has undeniably advanced human knowledge and improved lives. Third-party interests can definitely get in the way of it (or influence it negatively, introducing biases), but I feel most people who become scientists are genuinely interested in it (greed doesn't seem to be as big a factor, since financial rewards are low compared to other activities, breakthroughs are hard to achieve, and they typically have to work long hours - not only as researchers, but also as professors).
A wonderful fact you have presented... Whole world should be gratefui to this doctor. Perhaps I am able to write this today because of that great doctor!
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Thank you for the wonderful video!
Happy birthday, dear doctor Mike!
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Am I the only one who thinks that the instinct to reject new facts that go against what we think we know should have been named after the supervisor who fired him and not Ignis?
more videos about this !! love the origins of this things
Society (medical or otherwise) can be so needlessly cruel.
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Happy birthday Dr Mike, I trust you are having a wonderful day🎉.
There are many incidents within history, of Dr's being lambasted for their beliefs. The practice still continues, but we don't disgrace people as much, we do trials. We have a lot to thank Dr's from the past, present to the future of medicine. We are constantly evolving. 😊
0:36 literally that one meme template
My great grandmother was a midwife- without any formal training- but she was very good according to her patients… also practice of washing hands was very common in many cultures since BC times… I don’t understand why some places like Vienna rejected such a practice
Crazy, after all the Renaissance they acted as savages from mediEViL times
Interestingly ancient religions such as Judaism prescribed ritual washing after touching any dead body, human or animal. People were considered unclean until they did the prescribed washing of hands feet and sometimes entire body.
Yes, some of the rules in religious text have really practical usefulness... but also, here, part of the point (not exactly mentioned by this video) was that using simple soap is not always enough. It wasn't that doctors didn't wash hands at all - I don't think they went around with visibly grimy hands all the time... but that there are things that are not cleaned by just water, or even normal soap. The chlorinated lime, or something equally strong, is necessary. Especially for people doing autopsies.
@@EmeraldWings90yup i find it ridiculous doctors weren't washing their hands probably some bacterias in autopsy needed more than soap to eliminate them.