La Grange - ZZ Top - Rock Shuffle

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    DESCRIPTION: ZZ Top drives the rock shuffle to the top of the charts with La Grange. In this lesson, we'll look at the rock shuffle, groove timing and some triplet fills used in La Grange by ZZ Top.

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  • @stevenbardsley2489
    @stevenbardsley2489 4 роки тому +9

    Frank was such a beast on those first four or five albums!! Later on he just grooves but he paid his dues!! Monster drummer!!!

  • @es30888
    @es30888 7 років тому +11

    On request, please.... Put some white reflective tape on the top of your bass drum beater so we can better see it in the video. Thanks!

  • @alldog222
    @alldog222 3 роки тому +1

    Best, clearest, slowest, no extra bs cover great man. Ty

  • @drumzyful
    @drumzyful 9 років тому +3

    I love your approach and the way you break everything down to a simple form, you make it very effortless. I tend to rush to make notes and your talking about how you start and end riffs so you can get to the crash is great.

  • @CraigShawCraigShaw
    @CraigShawCraigShaw 6 місяців тому

    This is a challenging groove, which you've played very well!
    And the kit is tuned beautifully! 👌

  • @jeroenpelkman4320
    @jeroenpelkman4320 5 років тому +5

    Thanks a lot for this video! I think most of us are used to making the ride cymbal groove, instead of the kick and snare. Excited to learn this! Also, the kick on your set sounds amazing!

  • @Rob97CR250
    @Rob97CR250 8 років тому +14

    Rock shuffles are like Rosanna by Toto or Fool in the Rain by Zeppelin. Texas shuffle is harder and you do it well !

  • @bobbydtv1
    @bobbydtv1 9 років тому +2

    outstanding this shuffle still kills me even after 35 years

    • @FreakSX93
      @FreakSX93 9 років тому

      It's very own isn't it?

    • @9th-Circle
      @9th-Circle 8 років тому

      I've been playing for a little while now and I can get most of the beat down but the snare part is a pain in the ass. I always screw it up.

    • @FreakSX93
      @FreakSX93 8 років тому

      ZednoughtMagnum Yeah. Totally agree.

  • @georgekondylis6723
    @georgekondylis6723 5 років тому +2

    Nice breakdown. Timely for me. Just started playing this with my cover band.

  • @christianfraude4517
    @christianfraude4517 5 років тому +1

    Love this lesson Nate & the best illustration of La Grange 1972 wow that long ago !! Love this shuffle Nice 1 Nate mate !

  • @_TenaciousD_
    @_TenaciousD_ 11 років тому +3

    Awesome Nate! I love how I never think much of songs, cos its not my style or whatever, until I see another drummer drum it or break it down like you have and then I have such respect for the song and its drummer!
    Makes me wanna go learn this now cos I've never tried it :)

  • @wade123davis
    @wade123davis 7 років тому

    Seriously there is no wrong or right here if it sounds good then its good every one tries to be repertoire of every drummer try be yourself.Personally i think this is a great lesson.Thank you online drummer.

  • @jonathanechols2348
    @jonathanechols2348 8 років тому +8

    The intro fill is supposed to be a cross over from left to right alternating on the high hat

    • @dylancates5965
      @dylancates5965 3 роки тому

      THANK YOU! I agree It feels and sounds so much smoother with that technique.

  • @doubledeucedrums
    @doubledeucedrums 3 роки тому

    Mad cowbell covers Review was here:). Great video. 👏👏👏. You’re in our video today @11:54.

  • @thenrepeat9124
    @thenrepeat9124 6 років тому

    I'm old and have played forever and a few drum songs have evaded and fascinated me thru the years. This is one of them. I have learned that a couple of them are made to sound trickier than they are due to an echo added in recording. This is one, and Walking on the moon is another good example. I wish I remember what interview I read it in, but as the story goes there was a beautiful accident happening with drum recording la grange that gives it a perfectly timed echo. BUT I dig a drummer that can pull off a silky smooth shuffle! critics can boast of knowing a different way but playing a sweet shuffle like this takes mastery and many great drummers cannot do it. S0 if you`re harshly criticizing this guy I kinda have my doubts that you can play it better. I do agree however that the intro drum fill is probably single stroke.

  • @ShaZAM514
    @ShaZAM514 9 років тому +2

    There is a flam at the end of the rim click figure.
    Check out the live Crossroads La Grange - Tush medley, you can very clearly hear he's playing the full shuffle on the snare.

  • @angelathrall3896
    @angelathrall3896 3 роки тому

    Perfect camera angle. Thanks for the post!

  • @terrybartak7811
    @terrybartak7811 8 років тому +22

    Rock guitar is easy. To play drums like Frank Beard is HARD!

  • @timhenderson6473
    @timhenderson6473 Рік тому +1

    U can watch 10 different vids of how to play this and every one is different.this guy is playing the shuffle on the kick along with the left stick.sounds good.gotta play it suttle and keep the groove no matter how u play this

  • @uhclem
    @uhclem 10 років тому +10

    I'm not a drummer, but this was fascinating. Thanx for posting.

  • @sonicthehedgehogfangirlsav5221

    Great Lil lesson ,so many drummers don't play that song correctly...thanks🥁

  • @DelSanchezIII
    @DelSanchezIII 4 роки тому

    Thanks for this! After watching it broken into bite-size pieces, the song is much easier to play than I thought. (y)

  • @candy1a68
    @candy1a68 11 років тому

    Nice job with this oldie but goodie, Nate.

  • @billy-O4137
    @billy-O4137 10 років тому +1

    Thank you so much for your free lesson. Can't wait to get your book.

  • @mikezisk5009
    @mikezisk5009 3 роки тому

    Nice sounding kit good to see them Zildjians

  • @carlosmendoza4914
    @carlosmendoza4914 9 років тому

    thats great Mr.Brown....we are playing that cover song since we lost our keyboard player we're doing trio songs....zz...hendrix...etc and you did it for me man !! the detail is awesome bro...thanks a lot !!

    • @onlinedrummer
      @onlinedrummer  9 років тому

      Great! Thanks for the feedback. Very motivating! -Nate

    • @tsrohydag457
      @tsrohydag457 7 років тому

      onlinedrummer Thanks a lot it´s a great help!

  • @andthensome512
    @andthensome512 5 років тому +9

    This is one of the most difficult drum beats ever.

  • @rockybalboa2526
    @rockybalboa2526 3 роки тому +2

    Hi Nate, i just found your video here for the first time, and watched it, and immediately got a buzz on your SOUND the sound of your kit, the mike placements were on point, and obviously you know what sounds RIGHT! ( i do too ) And THIS IS HOW DRUMS SHOULD SOUND! And i also liked your FLOW. your playing flow. You also seem like a nice guy too! ( which is always a plus when working with a musician ) So now i am sending you this message to ask if you would like to talk more with me about possibly playing drums with me on 3 full albums ( one at a time ofcourse ) of fresh, new, exciting, original dance/rock music with an 80s sound. ???? If so, please get back to me and we will figure out a way to talk more directly. Thank you ~

  • @carloharris2173
    @carloharris2173 2 роки тому

    Love playing this song but you make it look so easy amazing

  • @pedroescudero4310
    @pedroescudero4310 6 років тому +1

    nice video! thanks for upload, is very useful! Regards from Spain

  • @mtario16
    @mtario16 8 років тому +1

    Very good explanation. Thanks.

  • @jimmorrison5604
    @jimmorrison5604 8 років тому +2

    Awesome lesson

  • @TigressSkyTigrisSky
    @TigressSkyTigrisSky 11 років тому +1

    Thank you so much for this. I am having the hardest time getting this!!! I can't wait to go try again. :)

  • @hubertpilk
    @hubertpilk 6 років тому

    Thank you for teaching it correctly

  • @abemichau4706
    @abemichau4706 8 місяців тому

    Shuffled around and found your tutorial video.

  • @slopedrum1
    @slopedrum1 7 років тому +9

    Cheers for this, why doesn't everyone who thinks they are awesome by slagging this off, put their own videos up here, then everyone can laugh at them.

    • @knrst9061
      @knrst9061 3 роки тому

      Shamelessly is the only way with this one.

  • @pierrekid
    @pierrekid 6 років тому

    Well done. I alternate on the snare (triplets off the snare) LH snare, RH hat, LH snare RH Snare LH hat and back and forth...

  • @roadrocket7
    @roadrocket7 8 років тому

    This is so GREAT! One of the trickiest beats/ grooves in Rock. Frank Beard is so BAD ASS. Man.....the SOUND of your drums is PERFECT too. Great job with the camera work and the miking. I learned so much from this and I've been playing a long time. You break it down and show it so dummies like me can "relearn" it the right way. Thanks!

  • @exdcpopo
    @exdcpopo 9 років тому

    Very nice breakdown of the drums on this song! It looked and sounded like you were throwing paradiddles in there too on the last fill at the end of the video, but you didn't mention it. I could be mistaken, lemme watch it again. Thanks for the vid!!

  • @udosmidt4133
    @udosmidt4133 5 років тому +1

    Thanks, great Inspiration.

  • @smokesletsgo2374
    @smokesletsgo2374 Рік тому

    Frank Beard is underrated as hell

  • @bathtubrenew
    @bathtubrenew Рік тому

    It’s a “Texas double shuffle”.
    Nice video.

  • @revere406
    @revere406 7 років тому +1

    solid - learned a lot!

  • @markbothe8854
    @markbothe8854 Рік тому +1

    Awesome

  • @mfbomber
    @mfbomber 11 років тому

    Looks like you have acquired some new drums Nate! The blue ones are missing...I like the new looks. Good work once again - consider me a fan of your lessons! Hope they keep coming...take care.

  • @maddogjb57
    @maddogjb57 10 років тому

    Again Nate very well put!!! It would be nice to see a Drum chart play sheet along with the video at the bottom. Just a suggestion. :)

  • @gregorymoreno3406
    @gregorymoreno3406 10 місяців тому +1

    The Rock Shuffle??? Here in Texas, its a Texas Shuffle. There are a lot of Texas blues drummers who use the shuffle on many blues and rock songs. Frank Beard (zz top) and Chris Layton (SRV) and Fran Christina (fab t-birds) and the drummer with Omar and the Howlers...

  • @cmckimm
    @cmckimm 11 років тому

    that first in-song fill at 1:11 is killer too

  • @TomGoldsmithguitar
    @TomGoldsmithguitar 6 років тому

    Beautiful stuff 🤘

  • @williamweiss6128
    @williamweiss6128 Рік тому

    Frank Beard was a beast. Listen to the live stuff on Fandango.

  • @marcushoffmann8469
    @marcushoffmann8469 4 роки тому

    Cool. More.

  • @Ladyranger
    @Ladyranger 6 років тому

    Great teaching tool

  • @dancollins8296
    @dancollins8296 5 років тому

    Frank beard is a bad ass drummer

  • @philx7425
    @philx7425 4 роки тому

    thanks for tips!

  • @nadir6661
    @nadir6661 6 років тому

    you nailed it you mother.... perfect !!!!

  • @Rless45
    @Rless45 8 років тому

    But what about that next badass fill! Hope ya show us how to do that!!!🙏🙏🙏👍

    • @BillZ06003
      @BillZ06003 7 років тому

      Yeah! The fill right before the guitar solo & somewhere else in the song are the ones that I've always wondered about. I sure wish they would have done the whole song or at least given the sheet music so we could see it.

  • @stevemckeown5072
    @stevemckeown5072 4 роки тому

    Thanks dude got it Cheers

  • @matthewmitchell4128
    @matthewmitchell4128 2 роки тому

    Not sure this is the most efficient interpretation of the piece. Might ne better off with single stoke crossovers for the fill, but i guess this works. More importantly kids, theres more than one way to interpret sheet music. In this case, i see most people crossover. Im interested to see the original drummer technique but i feelin the crossover. I like the double strokes but its just not necessary and inefficient between toms unless you're doing something with a swiss triplet in a linear fill... idk...

  • @fabianvazquez3553
    @fabianvazquez3553 4 роки тому

    Perfect

  • @xtoomuchmetalx
    @xtoomuchmetalx 8 років тому

    I think the kick is only doing half the shuffle, at least thats how i think he plays live, so the Kick sounds on the
    1-.-.-A-2-.-.-A-3-.-.-A-4-.-.-Ah. he kinda changes the accents on the snare from the E - + to just the + but the kick is pretty standard

  • @user-bc8pd1cr8i
    @user-bc8pd1cr8i Рік тому

    Спасибо.

  • @PharaohGlaga
    @PharaohGlaga 11 років тому

    Wow, how awesome. I recently jammed this song with my dad but I didn't quite EXACTLY know how to play it. I was pretty close though. What are the odds that you post a tutorial on it a few weeks later? XD

  • @gregodrums
    @gregodrums 10 років тому +2

    Nice vids! What about the killer fill into the solo? It's like a crotchet triplet thing.

  • @muuriciodegollada3870
    @muuriciodegollada3870 4 роки тому

    Thank you

  • @onlinedrummer
    @onlinedrummer  11 років тому

    hmm ... maybe because I used a section of the original audio. Maybe they only have rights to use it on the non-mobile version of UA-cam.

  • @TheGruveMaster
    @TheGruveMaster 10 років тому +28

    Too much left hand! Frank Beard only plays 2 16th notes on the left hand. The shuffle alternates from the bass drum to the snare drum. bass, bass... snare, snare. I learned this groove from the man himself. This is a typical Texas shuffle. Check out Chris Layton also. He does this all the time. Also, when Frank does the fill he starts on the Hi-hat with the right hand and plays the triplet in a single stroke pattern which has you alternating the hi-hat from left to right and gives you a much smoother fill because you keep the single stroke pattern going through entire fill. Played this way, your last triplet starts with the left hand which naturally leads you to the cymbal hit with the right.

    • @onlinedrummer
      @onlinedrummer  10 років тому +8

      Watch him again ZZ Top - La Grange (From "Double Down Live) He probably wanted to make it easier for you ;)

    • @MotrainPictures
      @MotrainPictures 10 років тому +1

      onlinedrummer true that! you can see he is actually playing two quieter ghost notes with the bass but at times it's hard to hear.

    • @gnogno35
      @gnogno35 9 років тому +1

      onlinedrummer On that video you're right but it's easy to hear that it's not what he plays on the original recording ;-)

    • @TheGruveMaster
      @TheGruveMaster 9 років тому +5

      I was introduced to Frank back in the 80's when I was down in Austin recording the Budweiser Blues tracks. We sat for hours trading shuffle groove's and he taught me this one note for note. He's a great dude and I seriously doubt he was trying to make it easier for me. It doesn't matter what he did on a video years after the recording. Very few drummers play the exact groove from the record when they perform live. Mr. onlinedrummer is only right about how he played this on that particular video. The record was played as I described.

    • @onlinedrummer
      @onlinedrummer  9 років тому +1

      Charlie Spataro Some things are very hard to hear in the mix. In this case, the entire team here hears the ghosted snare strokes. We have an unfair advantage of OCT (Obsessive Compulsive Transcribers) that relentlessly research each piece. Check any video of him playing it. You'll see the ghosted snares. You won't find any without them.

  • @coralbasie
    @coralbasie 3 роки тому +1

    Is it a crime against the drum gods to play this with a double kick? So much easier ...

  • @terrybartak7811
    @terrybartak7811 8 років тому +1

    You're the only guy I've ever seen that even comes close to right. As a classic cover guitarist I've complained to every drummer I've ever worked with that the shuffle is on the kick as well as the snare. Exhibit A in my next "LaGrange" practice. NEVER got the feel right. Pathetically the same for good ol Takin Care of Business. Everyone claims they know it. NO ONE does. Thank you.

    • @ingolfurthorvaldsson7653
      @ingolfurthorvaldsson7653 6 років тому +2

      No there is no shuffle with the kick, neither on the original recording or any live version, going as long as 1982. You owe lot of guys apologies. This the weirdest drum version I´ve seen of that song, and it works. But it aint like the original.

  • @patrickcostello4146
    @patrickcostello4146 3 роки тому

    Franks plays it with two kick drums, but a lot of players can pull it off with one.

  • @mikekelly9851
    @mikekelly9851 Рік тому +1

    It's a typical shuffle backbeat played in blues genera, goes back for years. How old are you?

  • @mepkin9449
    @mepkin9449 4 роки тому

    Thanks for demonstrating this intro. I also like the way you set up your kit. Just like mine only I don’t have the additional floor tom! BTW, where did I miss the info pertaining to the sheet music for this particular intro?

  • @EarthWindandFirepower0990
    @EarthWindandFirepower0990 6 років тому +1

    THANKS

  • @stevensmigiel3969
    @stevensmigiel3969 3 роки тому

    I think there is a flam in that galloping beat on the snare rim. Also, I think the shuffle is right hand and kick: snare is not shuffling.

  • @damnyankeefl
    @damnyankeefl 2 роки тому

    dude. nice.

  • @openyoureyes4799
    @openyoureyes4799 3 роки тому

    I am learning this from you but I play open handed so I play the hh with my left hand and the snare with my right.....

  • @stickboy1959
    @stickboy1959 Рік тому

    would be nice if you had a camera on your bass drum pedal but love your videos

  • @tjfreak
    @tjfreak 8 років тому

    I just watched several without the snare shuffle,it's overlooked as well as Franks signature super tight rimshot strike.. you know the ones re recorded & lost with the big fat sloppy snare & drum sound."The shuffle",which I never considered it to be until now was almost the basis for this song,Great to see FB break downs.@ a glance he seems to be a basic spot holder & is a lot of the time,capable of more than he does & did once.Always felt he intentionally just backed way off for some reason? esp. in the elec drum 80's.I learned from Fandango & Houses of the Holy,Esp. long Distance Boogie..there's some stuff going on in that.You mention influenced by Frank Beard to some people & they look at you like what ? maybe their thinking post 70's stuff.

  • @libiax
    @libiax 10 років тому

    Thanks!

  • @chuckp1832
    @chuckp1832 6 років тому

    A TX shuffle is 4 on the floor. Playing the shuffle with the kick is more of a rock shuffle!! daniel glass texas shuffle

  • @PinkFloyd4
    @PinkFloyd4 8 років тому

    Please mr. onlinedrummer, tell me which exactly skins you use on top and bottom toms and snare. it sounds amasing!
    tnx :-)

  • @DrumSpotScuoladibatteriaOld
    @DrumSpotScuoladibatteriaOld 9 років тому

    yeah

  • @WRITA3939
    @WRITA3939 Рік тому

    Cool🤘😎🤘

  • @mikea7678
    @mikea7678 2 роки тому

    Missing that flam at the end of the intro phrase.

  • @Rob97CR250
    @Rob97CR250 8 років тому

    TEXAS SHUFFLE ! !

    • @roadrocket7
      @roadrocket7 8 років тому

      +Rob97CR250 Here's another for you: "Pride and Joy" by Stevie Ray Vaughn and Double Trouble. Chris Layton on drums. He's one of my faves. Bad ass.

  • @makes123
    @makes123 6 років тому

    I've enjoyed some of your other videos but this one you're struggling on. Just shows that if you dint play shuffles alot they are hard to master. Keep working at it! Thanks

  • @thirdroompro
    @thirdroompro 7 років тому

    Drums sound great and the part you are doing is seriously rocking. Everyone can figure out their own Nuance, Fact is your Drum part would be great to play Lead guitar over and it drives the hell out of the track. Great Job Online Drummer.
    Hey drum experts, you can watch many a professional drummer like Porcaro do videos of his OWN shit and then you listen to the record and go............ Whoa, thats not EXACTLY like he showed in his instructional video.
    Fact: Most real pro's don't remember exactly what they did on some record 12 years ago or 20, They also don't care about the same nitpicking shite that Non pro drummers wanna talk smack about.

  • @MorganMaddox
    @MorganMaddox 9 років тому

    could you use a double pedal for the bass if you can't quite get your single foot to go fast enough?

  • @galaxymodern
    @galaxymodern 10 місяців тому

    Would love to see the whole song by him...anyone know where to find it?

  • @Cockraine
    @Cockraine 9 років тому +1

    some say zztop drummer does it crossing hands for the "debut"...what is your idea about that please ? thanks :)

    • @narosser
      @narosser 8 років тому

      Yeah I too would have thought crossed hands at the hi-hat snare combo triplets...

  • @ThePaulFactor
    @ThePaulFactor 11 років тому

    good shit

  • @jaredcook3757
    @jaredcook3757 3 роки тому

    Frank simply does not shuffle the bass drum on the original recording. He's played it live about every way imaginable though. Even changing it up within the same performance. 4 on the floor is all you need.

  • @pedrums1989
    @pedrums1989 3 місяці тому

    Could anyone tell me what the series of the cymbals would be? Thank you!

  • @TheMavetherave
    @TheMavetherave 8 років тому

    Are your toms 10" and 12 "...they are an awesome sound

  • @markhav1
    @markhav1 9 років тому

    Do u have a lesson on Tush, i have never saw anybody play that song right??

  • @altie29
    @altie29 10 років тому +2

    i thought it was a texas shuffle that he plays??

    • @Metragnome_Images
      @Metragnome_Images 10 років тому +3

      The music style is texas boogie. The drum beat is a shuffle.

  • @dwexoticmaple
    @dwexoticmaple 4 роки тому

    hi what headset do you use and does it pick up much drums in it?

  • @tedyarusso9563
    @tedyarusso9563 6 років тому

    It’s a actually a Texas Shuffle.. right left flam left... kick on 1&3.

  • @dinogettie9220
    @dinogettie9220 9 років тому +2

    WHAT KIND OF DRUMS ARE THEY?

    • @onlinedrummer
      @onlinedrummer  9 років тому +3

      dino gettie Hi dino. Those are Ddrum Uptown Reflex drums. Great sound! -Nate

    • @dinogettie9220
      @dinogettie9220 9 років тому +1

      THANKS NICE

  • @rlrouth58
    @rlrouth58 11 років тому

    No mobile viewing Nate?

  • @joebriery
    @joebriery 10 років тому +1

    I still can't play this song, this is a more advanced and difficult Texas Shuffle to play, it's not near as easy as some people might think.

    • @openyoureyes4799
      @openyoureyes4799 3 роки тому

      It's harder because you have to do that drag shuffle on the rim it"s hard unless you have practiced a bunch of rudiments! If you slow it wayyyyyy downnnnnn you will get it and then just go a little faster until you are up to speed! Then there's the shuffle on the HH.. rock shuffle! Same thing, but good news is that your base drum is playing the same thing!!