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The No Stop, Hedged, Grid System VS Grid Trend Multiplier Grid System.
1. Sideways market trading Tool
2. Direction less
3. No transaction stops are used (only Overall ones)
4. At each Grid level it Opens a buy and a sell at the same time
5. At each grid level it cashes in the positive trade and leaves the other on open
6. Keeps trading until positive or hits and overall stop
7. Dangerous in a trending market.
No Stop, Hedged, Grid Trading System
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Grid Trend Multiplier
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1. Trending market trading Tool
2. Only trades in one direction
3. No transaction stops are used (only Overall ones)
4. opens a trade in the decided direction at each grid level
5. At each grid level it closes a positive trade and opens another trade in the predetermined direction
6. The trader must stop trading when the trend is no longer strong.
7. Dangerous if the market goes against the direction of trade
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Cheers for the Video! Forgive me for butting in, I am interested in your initial thoughts. Have you considered - Tarbbatigan Accurate Preference Tip (erm, check it on google should be there)? It is a good one off product for forex trading robot without the normal expense. Ive heard some pretty good things about it and my cousin after a lifetime of fighting got excellent results with it.
Is it good for crypto trading?
Great ideas. For the Grid Trend Multiplier in the example for the long direction, if the price goes up several grids and then drops down for 2 or 3 grids, do you make long entries at the lower grid levels before reaching the highest grid again? Or do you wait until you've passed the previous grid high and enter again on the next grid above?
I'll check out your other videos on the subject.
calculate also Spread ! do not forget that your first closed orders Closed +100 - 3 = 97 pips . But your Minuse orders -100-3 = -103 pip. Negative always bigger that profit because of spread. If your pipstep will be 20-25 pip? than you will see power of spread.
Yes, as stated the spread is ignored to explain the principle. The effect of the spread is easy to calculate: Number of transactions x spread. deduct this from the result
@Finebone Faithwins sir how you can take advantage of spread
It's miracle
Can we discuss
My INSTAGRAM- @breakouttrader10
@Finebone Faithwins please explain
Long trend = accum losses
Grids are good as stop loss. Using price action to determine entry and using two grid levels on 15 min chart as stop loss.
John Ichie, Thank you for that feedback and comment - Much appreciated. Regards Alex
Expert4x You're welcome,Sir.
Sir, For grid type where you buy & sell equal volume at each grid level,what pip distance do you suggest for different currency pairs & cross currencies.Say for a pair daily ATR is 100 pips,then what should be grid distance--50 or 70 pips?Draw down has to be kept under control.And how about grid trading for indices--as indices are more mean reverting after all.Any robots?
Good question. use the free indicator that tell the size of currency trends. Your grid size should be a third to a sixth of the average trend of the currency. Hope this helps. ua-cam.com/video/m_BL1cfGXWU/v-deo.html
There should be a way to combine 2 systems.
I would start with directionless system. If the market does not reverse after 5 or 6 levels, I would swich to the 2. system to stop my drawdown. I would open a single position on the trend direction. But I would adjust the lot size according to the all open positions in loss so I will be hedged. That will stop my drawdown until the trend resumes. That will be my lifeline in case there will be an extraordinary black swan trend that would wipe out my account. For example, if the sum of all buy positions at 6th level is 3 lots, and the market keeps going down, I would open a single 3 lot sell position at the 7th level to hedge the loss until themarket reverses. If it does reverse, I will close the hedge with small profit or a very small loss.
I think the grid system is the only way to trade stress free if you have a plan for black swan days. Above feature may be adapted to the EA for security. Please let me know what you think.
Good ideas - give them a try - the settings allow what you have in mind
Did you test this combined system ? It would be great if you could let me know if the results are better than using these two systems separately.
did it work?
So your idea basically is if you went long for 6 levels with 3 lots accumulated volume, and the downtrend persisted, so you will go short (hedge) on the 7th level with 3 lots in one go. Guess this is not a proper open trades management, because it will affect your trading capacity, you got 6 lots hanging in the air until you reach the break even someday. I believe that hedging should be done in 6 levels as well, so if the trend reverses back, you will only deal with 1/6 hedged position, but if the downtrend persisted, you will incrementally add to the hedging positions. Sooner or later you will break even. That way your acount will be lean and mean, not bloated with hedged positions until you can no longer be able to trade. No martingaling, just hedge with the same number of levels, and with equal pips distance. Also think of it like its 2 way hedging, like the original trades hedge their hedge too in case of big revesals! Either you profit from retracements and breakouts at best, or you break even at worst
@@afalem can you give an example?
No need for the background music. It didn't add to the video. It actually took away from it.
B. James Maher, Thank you for that feedback and comment - Much appreciated. Regards Alex
Some real life examples...content and context...theories are great...in theory!
It is more important that you understand the technique
@@Expert4x question about the technique what happens if it does not reach the next zone - what if the volume is light and it reverses direction
your explanation are very clear
Glad to hear that
Thanks for the reply Alex. That is most useful information about hedging. It is very much appreciated.
Much regards.
Luken Heimer, Thank you for that feedback and comment - Much appreciated. Regards Alex
Why did you stopped trading using grids? Aren't they profitable?
They can be profitable but non-horizontal grids (channel trading) appear to be better
yes its true
no entiendo, el prexio arranca desde un prexio 20 al 50 esta comprando y vendiendo .. baja al 20 cierra la venta y abre una nueva venta, en el 00 cierra la venta con beneficio pero la perdida sera aun mayor, cerro 40 pips positivos y va perdiendo 60
Yes you need to be good at maths using this technique
Ur a blessing
Thanks for your comment
how will any one know whether the market is going to break or not?
if you know market is range bound, put a stop loss trade in one direction.
Hi Do you have any EA based on channel trading methode?
b c, Thank you for that feedback and comment - Much appreciated. We have a number of channel indicators on our forum but no EAs Regards Alex For more videos please use these links: #Expert4x #Expert4xforex #Expert4xforextrading
Sir can you metion a pair which we can do only buy or only sell while doing grid trading I do buy only in gbpjpy it goes against me for 2 week so i lost, I am looking for a pair some how compliment to each other consolidate pair
The one direction strategy is too risky to advise on - try sticking to dual direction strategies using highly correlated currencies
Sir you mean buy n sell at same time an encash the gain as you shown in your video
Question: If the market is bulish, I know that at the first cashin the Sell trade is still open. Do I need to open another sell trade while the previous one is still running?
You need to make sure there is a buy and a sell active at each level the price visits
@@Expert4x I understand but I need to know if the number of buy orders will be equal to the number of levels or if I will keep the original sell order only
I have a question. On the hedged grid system, will another buy/sell trade be opened if there’s still an open buy or sell on that level?
Hi James Ambrose , Thanks very much for your for your question. There should never be more than 1 buy and / or 1 sell at any level. Hope this helps you James Ambrose, All the best Alex
I wonder if you've already combined both methods into an adaptable EA. I mean, you could either determine the trend strength and only trade the one or other method if trend is strong or adapt the targets and lot sizes of the grid depending on the trend strength ....
Yes the trader determines that using their favourite methods. The GTM automates the grid trading process - it does not make trading decisions.
what happen have a switch to trigger each ea depends on mkt condition?
peter kwag, Thank you for that feedback and comment - Much appreciated. Yes that would have to managed on a manual basis. Regards Alex
Sir can we do one thing let's trade gbpusd only buy 20 or 30 pips gap if I start buy with 0.01 lot size if market goes against my trade I buy again with 0.02 lot if fall market keep on buying by increasing lot as 0.03,0.04 and so on until market reversed in 1 hr time frame I did these with 500 dollar I got successful but I got failed n washed my account if trend goes against my trade but I am seor if I have 2000 dollar I will always win I am searching for pair where trend reversal happen frequently so that if pair goes against my trade today it reversed tomorrow my query is please suggest such pair which movement is in like sawtooth wave can say mostly consolidate pair
Yes that will happen - that is why you should not put all your eggs is 1 basket - you should trade 8 to 12 version of the EA with different currencies and gaps. Some will blow and other succeed
@@Expert4x that's really appreciate your idea is mind opening for me from now onwards I will trade in 3 pairs
can you please share the name of ranging fxpairs to trade this strategy?
Ranging currencies change from time to time - just look at the charts for ranging currencies
@@Expert4x any special preference?
Has anyone found the perfect grid size for optimal profits for the gtm ea (trading both sides)
Zarfan Hussain, Thank you for that feedback and comment - Much appreciated.It varies from Currency to currency - generally between 10 and 30. Regards Alex For more videos please use these links: #Expert4x #Expert4xforex #Expert4xforextrading
@@Expert4x thnk U!
For US traders, does this EA need brokers allowing nano lots. Microlots could be a lot of equity used? Thanks. I always like your videos
Here is a complete guide to options open to US traders
@@Expert4x Thanks for your reply. I apologize that I do not see the link in your reply.
I see that u have not produce any UA-cam videos in over 2 years. Is this system still valid? I saw somewhere you stated that u need to check with your Broker to see if they allow 'hedge'
There have been over 30 videos since. Search grid expert4x
Does it work on MetaTrader 5?
Thanks
The system will work on anything - the robot works on MT4 and MT5
To bad that Grid (or other hedging strategies) are not allowed in US Forex centers.
Luken Heimer, Thank you for that feedback and comment - Much appreciated. Many US traders get around that by trading 2 accounts - one account only buys and the other only sells. Regards Alex
i can help you with fx trade acct
Thank you for the super clear introduction!
You are welcome!
Hello i just purchased the hedge ea but didnt recieve any download link can you please help
Lee Baxter, Thank you for that feedback and comment - Much appreciated. Please contact Expert4x directly - difficult to support on UA-cam. Check the email you use for your Paypal account - downloads are sent there. PayPal has pended your payment - there may be a problem - Regards Alex
@@Expert4x i appreciate the response. ~But the money has been taken out of my bank account and all is fine my end, so if you could push along support that would be great, i have had contact through email but awaiting the goods to be sent, thanks
Lee
its ok i found the email in my spam, i have now been able to get it setup
Wow! And one can trade with a starting account of around $150/ £150. Such low risk.
Can I start the Grid trade with $100? Would u advice?
Yes you can
Ok please could you send me detailed and well explained way to set this trade system to my mail goldnosa@gmail.com. thanks sir
good video
A great explanation. I had been wondering for some time what the difference between the two were. thanks for sharing.
Thanks for your feedback - let me know if there is anything else you need more info on.
That accent- are you South African
Yes I am an Ex- South African
Shi/wrong because if the trend is going (1000 pips) one direction whit out forward the first loser position is runing and made a minus....so if you close the won and the loser position still open maybe the loser position is still going to the wrong direction.
Yes
Will not work because you will be stay up or low for a longtime and there fees to pay
You clearly have more experience with this technique than our 12 years.