Was There Only ONE Version of the Old Testament In Ancient Times?
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- The three text traditions of the Hebrew Bible: the Masoretic texts, Septuagint, and Samaritan Pentateuch, are all very ancient. And they're all as old as 300 to 200 BCE. They were all found in the Dead Sea Scrolls material. The Qumran scribes preserved all of them. That's important because what it tells us is they didn't look at the different editions or versions of the Hebrew Bible and say, "Well, there's only one that comes from God, and bears the mark of inspiration." They didn't do that. And neither should we. Check this out!
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Just finished The Unseen Realm! I recommend it to everyone!!
I am reading it
It is awesome! I hope Mike writes some more along this vein.
I finished it last year. I second you bro!!
@@hammiessandwich7447 I’m reading it too and LOVING IT!!!! It makes so much sense; right??
I found your channel about a week ago, and feel like I am getting a theological degree for free! I absolutely love this stuff as it makes me think, and research so much from every video! Thank you! May God bless you sir!
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Jesus the Splendor, also just called Jesus, is a Fragment of the Primordial God known as the Father of Greatness, being the Manichaeism equivalent of Christian Jesus. Like the Yeshua of the Christian religion, he is a kind, honest and very gentle deity.
In Manichaeism, Jesus is considered one of the four prophets of this religion, along with Zoroaster, Gautama Buddha, and Mani. He is also a "guiding deity" who greets the light bodies of the righteous upon their deliverance.
Like the Christian Jesus, he lived from 0 to 33 CE, being worshiped as the Son of God, and the Savior who rose from the dead. The religion of Manichaeism is a Gnostic religion, so unlike the Christian religion where the Messiah is the incarnation of God the Son, in Manichaeism there is a distinction between the physical and historical Jesus and the spiritual Jesus, with the human Yeshua being an aspect of the spiritual Christos.
"Then the Jews said to Judas: How will we arrest him if he has no unique shape, but his appearance changes? Sometimes it is black, sometimes it is white, sometimes it is red, sometimes it is the color of wheat, sometimes it is yellow... sometimes it is young, sometimes it is an old man..."
- 4th century Egyptian manuscript.
“John, John, why do you doubt, or why are you afraid? You are not unfamiliar with this image, are you? - that is, do not be timid! - I am the one who is with you always. I am the Father, I am the Mother, I am the Son. I am the undefiled and incorruptible one."
- Jesus to John.
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Dr. Chip Hardy has a good presentation on pluriformity in the Southeastern Seminary symposium series. Eugene Ulrich has also done insightful work in this area in his Dead Sea Scrolls and the Origins of the Bible volume. I wish this information was more readily available to the church.
Yes! I sat through an Easter sermon yesterday that was overall on point, except for the part where the pastor declared that "through all the texts and manuscripts we have of the Bible, the Septuagint, the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Masoretic Text, there was only one little difference between them and it did change the meaning.". Major cringe 🤦🤦🤦
@@lindararey8641 I'm sure he meant well. Maybe you could make some book recommendations to him. I really enjoy Eugene Ulrich. Or you could just send him Dr. Hardy's lecture. I think it's titled Current Issues in OT Studies. Really good.
I followed your advice, Dr Heiser, and ordered the net bible. I prefer print edition over the audio available on Logos, however.
The Masoretic text was made by the Jews in around 700 AD, the Masoretic text was not included in the Dead sea scrolls.
That's what I was thinking. Unless by "Masoretic text" he just means Hebrew language text.
@@JefiKnight Could be but he doesn't clarify it.
On a side note:
I've seen the KJV only cult say that the LXX is corrupted and that the Masoretic text is the same as the KJV and is the text that God gave us and is with out error.
Always enjoy your posts!
I really with they would post links to the whole teaching session on these.
When was this lecture???
Just curious.
I am a Christian so take this into consideration when I ask this… who said we have to believe in the Bible for our salvation? People say if it has errors then the faith has to be thrown away.. I don’t remember Jesus telling them to go write a book and start a religion.
*You're not a Christian.*
The Bible is unique above all other religious texts simply for one reason, fulfilled prophecy.
It's a very complex document.
It has no need for anyone to make up there own interpretations as it's a self interpreting book.
Jesus said no man shall live by bread and water alone, but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God.
Jesus quoted old testament scripture all the time. Jesus who is God in the flesh confirmed scripture Himself.
Also in the new testament we have verses that say this:
2 Tim 3:16: All Scripture is inspired by God and beneficial for teaching, for rebuke, for correction, for training in righteousness;
2 Peter 1:21: for no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.
And for another example of why scripture is important to rely and trust on is a verse from acts 17:11:
Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true.
The Bible as a whole is more reliable and trustworthy as an ancient text than even Homer illiad.
As for the case of textual purity over the ages, we have far more ancient copies in original languages for the old and new testament than even the oldest non religious text(homers odyssey). Meaning we can look at all these ancient copies from eras past and see how much has changed. Which its stayed the same. The Bible you have now is just as close to the original writings with a 99.8% textual purity.
God has preserved His Word through His people. Basically the Bible details how God reveals Himself to the world.
And to add to that point I'll end with 1 Corinthians 1:18-25
18For the word of the cross is foolishness to those who [u]are perishing, but to us who [v]are being saved it is the power of God. 19For it is written:
“I WILL DESTROY THE WISDOM OF THE WISE,
AND THE UNDERSTANDING OF THOSE WHO HAVE UNDERSTANDING, I WILL CONFOUND.” 20Where is the wise person? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has God not made foolish the wisdom of the world? 21For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not come to know God, God [w]was pleased through the foolishness of the [x]message preached to save those who believe. 22For indeed Jews ask for [y]signs and Greeks search for wisdom; 23but we preach [z]Christ crucified, to Jews a stumbling block, and to Gentiles foolishness, 24but to those who are the called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25For the foolishness of God is wiser than mankind, and the weakness of God is stronger than mankind.
@@gruesomedead *All TRUE.*
@@gruesomedead all scripture is referenced to the Old Testament. He wrote letters not books. We don’t know he knew his letters would be used as books. Look at the context of the paragraph it’s Old Testament
@@gruesomedead and actually we don’t even have the original letters to know if anything changed.
Were there any specific commentaries found in the Qumran corpus that particularly addressed the differences between, say, the MT and LXX chronologies from Adam to Noah to Abraham, and the existence (or not) of Cainan? Assuming that Qumran had all 3 versions -- MT, LXX and SP -- they had to have known that they all give different sets of numbers. So, did any scribe ever make any attempt to explain WHY they don't all conform in matters of chronology? It would boggle the mind to try to imagine them just shrugging off those discrepancies and leaving the matter unresolved -- and not commented upon.
Nothing provokes the insecurities of a fundamentalist more than this.
We can be far more sure of the documents' accuracy than Dr. Heiser seems to suggest.
Richard Elliott Friedman says there were multiple text traditions that were combined at the time of Ezra. This is of course the Documentary Hypothesis. I can't speak to who is the superior translator, Heiser or Friedman, but I can say Friedman is head and shoulders above as a writer in English. Friedman's Who Wrote the Bible may actually be the best written book I've ever read.
After Ezra, differences between subsequent copies add up to about 1% differences, many of which are spelling variations. Copyists went to great lengths to ensure accuracy. For example, counting the characters from the beginnings of a document to the middle and from the end to the middle to see if the same character was arrived at in the middle. Accidental ink spills were actually reproduced in the copies, etc. The slightest error got a copy tossed into the local dump -- from which archaeologists now draw their "older and therefore better" manuscripts. Then those trashed copies get made into Bible of the Month Club Bibles, such as the NIV, the Good News Bible, and the NKJ.
It's been said that everyone has one good idea. Dr. Heiser has made his contribution, explaining why there is no idolatry before Babel and lots of idolatry after. Now he's just blathering to keep the party going.
This posting raises many important questions that Heiser likewise needs to address - his contentions need a broader explanation! Because, as is, it comes across more as an academic can of worms than an apologetic for trustworthy Scripture. Please address it further!
Wow! I’ve been watching his videos for over a year and you just explained how I’ve felt but couldn’t express into words. I have respect for the guy but he’s a master at saying a whole lot and nothing at the same time.
@@unitewithcha whole lot of nothing? What are you watching? “No tradition is identical and uniform in all of its manuscripts.” Can it possibly be any more clear what he’s saying?
Thank you for all.
May you be well.
He's right but a lot of people have stupid (non-Biblical) hang ups about so many things including the text traditions. Not sure if you're going to convince the sort of fools who are KJV only or who will talk your ear off about the Byzantine vs. Alexandrian manuscripts.
For certain!
What?
@@termination9353 any evidence to back up this laughable claim?
@@termination9353 so your evidence proving that the current competing gospels are unreliable and maliciously produced…are quotes from said unreliable and maliciously produced gospels..,
@@eddielopez2373 *If atheists weren't allowed to contradict themselves they'd never be able to speak in public*
"I'm burning everything except the NIV, that's the only true translation." -Looks at KJV only folks-
Almost finished reading Unseen Realm (loving it!!) but I did notice Dr. Heiser cites the ESV Bible….so I ordered one from CBD and it arrived about an hour ago!!! Yaaay!!
Notttt. K JV is the only “ true inspired Word.1611! Almost 300 years later came the new updated versions. Hint: COPYRIGHT ONLY:$$$$ duh. Money. Read the book: The History of the KJV. BLESSINGS.
@@cactustex666it's not the only true inspired word you dope
@cactustex666 although accurate in ways, written by masons with an agenda in mind.
@@cactustex666The KJV is copyrighted in England.
The earliest Christians used the Septuagint as their version of the Holy Writ. Greek was the written language of the day and Aramaic was the spoken language of the day in that region. If Hebrew had been a commonly spoken language in that time period, a Hebrew version of the Holy Writ would've been used. That's just the way the cookie crumbles. Also, it didn't help that as non-Hebrew-speaking Gentiles funneled into the new assemblies, Hebrew as a language was downplayed while Greek was puffed up.
Thank you for this
Thanks Mike.
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Is there a complete version of this speech?
What does he mean by Agree? Is he saying that there are slight textural variants or that there are major theological differences?
I have no idea either. I’ve been following Heiser for a few months now and I haven’t quite been able to figure out his views on things like inerrancy. He’s talked a lot on inspiration etc, but I have yet to discern where he stands on whether he believes the bible can have errors or not.
I like the Greek/Hebrew/English study Bible. It’s much different from the King James & NIV.
I'd disagree with the Masoretic text being present in the intertestemental period. The earliest surviving sources for the masoritic only dates back to 9-10 century ad
Aleppo codex- 900 ad , Westminster Leningrad codex 900-1000 ad
The question I have is: In the end times when the two witnesses finally make an appearance is it possible for it to be Enoch & Elijah or is it, Moses & Elijah? This has always confused me since revelation always said two people that never died. Is this a mistranslation or am I just confused to the real meaning of what this means?
We know Moses died since the Bible says he died on top of Mt Nebo, and Michael and the devil contended for his body. So that means it won't be Moses.
*Ive never understood why the 2 Witnesses are always paralleled with the Transfiguration. I have no idea what these 2 things have to do with each other. I never have.*
@@thetruthchannel349 Hebrews 9:27 says that it is appointed for men to die once and then face judgment. Enoch and Elijah didn't die - they were "taken up." So, they have to die at some point. That's why most people think they will be the final two witnesses. This is not 100% guaranteed because Enoch and Elijah could die another way, but we know they have to die at some point. As fro the Transfiguration, I don't see that having anything to do with the two witnesses in the end times.
@@CT-if2tt *I dont either but thats why people think its Moses and not Enoch.*
@Isaiah Herrero *I graduated from a Bible College. I taught in a Theological School. I know how NOT to read the Bible.*
Whatever the text, one message remains unchanged,
Jesus Christ died and rose again from the dead, his blood poured out as a new covenant in faith for the forgiveness of sins.
In the 3314 language translations, this is the fundamental truth and foundation of our faith.
Jesus Christ our Risen Lord!
Hallelujah! The King is Coming!
A man cannot die for your sins. Human sacrifice is an abomination
First time I have heard anyone make the analogy between the text traditions and our modern translations. I saw that myself with the different NT text families. But there is a clear implication: the differences in texts are deliberate. You create a new version to “add clarity” or “update the language.” Begs the question again of which is the best text when there are discrepancies.
I would probably guess that the various versions of the Old testament that people had, often multiple ones at the same time as in the book of Jeremiah, served the same purpose. Different versions trying to provide the best clarity they could.
@@jblackpost *No, scribes had to copy WORD for WORD. Thats why the modern Masoretic texts are more than 98% the same as the oldest texts written by Hebrew scribes*
@@thetruthchannel349 Well, the idea of VERY strict a word for word copying didn't really form until after the destruction of the Temple in 70 AD, and was really insisted upon by Rabbi Akiva in the early 2nd century. And we also know there were multiple versions of texts- Jeremiah for example- in existence at the same time- and other texts were later edited by others, as well. So, if you're suggesting that the scripture can all be traced back to a precise order of words somewhere that was THE WORD, then I don't think so. I don't think that's how inspiration works, and history doesn't really tell it that way. The dead sea scrolls also show multiple version in existence simultaneously.
@@jblackpost *Dude, TRANSLATIONS are NOT INSPIRED. Transmission is what occurs between the INSTRUCTION of the SPIRIT and the PERSON receiving that INSTRUCTION as they are WRITING. Thats why scribes had to meticulously COPY what had already been written. Again, the oldest texts we have are 98.6 PRECISELY the same as the Masoretic texts of the 16th century. And that tiny difference is due to the evolution of spelling and scribal markings.*
@@jblackpost "The dead sea scrolls also show multiple version in existence simultaneously" *Name the SPECIFIC texts which we have MULTIPLE versions of whose differences are substantive and not the result of differences in scribal markings.*
So, did Moses not write the Torah?
So they say
Would you really go in there and say, "I'm burning everything but the NIV". The answer is yes if you're caliph Uthman.
Where's the rest?
All these different versions (interpretations) give The devil Satan plenty of material to try to create doubt in any believer. Remember that God enters into the heart and Soul of You when you are Born ( of the Spirit) Again. Shalowm. HalleluYahh and Amen.
Where is the scope for doubt? As long as the message of salvation, sanctification and glorification is clear in the Bible, it's legit. And all past versions get that right. Basically the parts that are fundamental to eternal life are neatly preserved.
If any person is misled on any other topic than the fundamentals because of his Bible, only then we better freak out.
sorry, I meant we actually won't freak out.
@@samueltomjoseph4775A S
Well said.! But many Never refer to to Word Rather they trust their fellow man Instead. O What Deciet lies in mans Heart.!! Jeremiah17:9,10. Shalowm and Amen
Give God the Glory.
HalleluYahh.
Really? Because there are minor variations introduced into a text over thousands of years you think it would cast doubt on the existence of God? Wow.
Any of you poor people ever thought ; ' I know nothing ' ? I guess as cool as Dr Heiser is , we'll just have to get by the best we can
He doesn’t mention the peshitta which is dated to the first century.
Kind of a big deal he didn't mention that the early Church Fathers quoted the Greek Septuagint in the books they wrote. That's why Eastern Orthodox use it
*Problem with that is the early 'Church Fathers' weren't Church fathers. The architects of the early church were Jesus own Apostles. Not those who came after 2 centuries*
@@thetruthchannel349 there's a direct line of disciples from the apostles with extant writings. From St John we get ->Ignatius and also Polycarp->->Polycarp disciple Ireneus->->-> Hippolytus of Rome disciple of Ireneus. They all lived and wrote before the 2nd century. And there's more
@@SeriouslyAwesome *No, there isn't. That historical lie resulted from a FORGED and FAKED text called 'The Book of Popes.' It was a FALSE history written by the catholic church. Even the Vatican's own historians have admitted it was a FORGED and FAKED text.*
@@SeriouslyAwesome *Irenaeus was the 3rd and possibly the 4th or 5th pastor of Antioch. I say that because the record of that is probably incomplete or inaccurate.*
@@SeriouslyAwesome "They all lived and wrote before the 2nd century" *They were NOT the APOSTLES that started THE CHURCH.*
If you are a KJV fundamentalist you would burn the variants like a good Islamic scribe or Ruckmanite! Or an Orthodox Jew that accepts the MT only.
No, to put it mildly this was a very bad analogy for the attitudes of KJV only believers. Of course they wouldn’t “burn” any text. Just another way to demonize a point of view so it’s easier to dismiss.
@@unitewithch have you ever talked with the KJV only crowd? They really do have extreme beliefs like this. They say the KJV is the only inspired word of God. Which is madness, but try telling them that. I've been to small and big churches, ones where they won't ask you to read a passage from your bible or even open or close a service with prayer if they don't know what version you're gonna be reading or quoting from. this is definitely a sticking point for them, not for those of us who aren't hindered by such thinking.
@@Theggman83 I think it’s easy to generalize to any particular group that holds fundamental beliefs. So what, they hold “extreme” views and can be annoying at times. Not everyone who believes KJV only is like this and it’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bath water because of annoyance. They do have some legitimate things to say.
@@unitewithch lol, on the contrary, if an individual holds outlandish beliefs, I generally don't take their opinions seriously. Kinda like how I don't waste my time trying to understand the motivations of my backyard chickens, humans without a clearly defined critical thinking process rooted in logic and facts arent worth the time of trying o understand or even change. The problem is how many people they turn away from church and the Bible in general with their outlandish beliefs. This is a far more dangerous belief than arguing over whether Adam and Eve had bellybuttons.
@@Theggman83 I’m not saying that we have to validate everyone’s opinions, however generalizing and saying that kJV only folks are somehow lacking in character or devoid of any truth is just as foolish as what your trying to expose, especially given your own experience which does not apply to everyone
The Septuagint predates the masoretic by 2000 years
That’s why the 2 witnesses have to come and restore God’s word. According to Revelation.
Can you identify these two? or just believe they are here now?
That is not the duty of the 2 Witnesses. The text clearly says that their work is of warning the world about repenting. The duty of restoring the knowledge of true Christianity was to be done by the end-time Elijah Jesus spoke of in Matt. 17:10-11.
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Yet the Hebrew scripture, the source, differs significantly from the septuagint (Greek). The New Testament, is based on the septuagint. So much for the Hebrews being the oracles of God.....
“The Septuagint with Apocrypha: The Greek Old Testament in English: Third Edition” (Amazon has it for $18.77) is the best the best English translation of the Septuagint available. It's Brenton's text upgraded with "thee and thou" changed to "you."
The English translation abbreviated as NETS is a toral fake : it’s admittedly (and absurdly) based on the NRSV which is based on the Masoretic Text, (the current and only Hebrew text) which is falsified and mutilated.
For a complete Bible, I’d get the Orthodox Study Bible, NKJV NT & Brenton Translation of the Septuagint OT.
It’s sad that users of the KJV (or any other English Bible) are still using the Old Testament in their Bibles.
@@termination9353 Where is the Gospel of Jesus now?
@@termination9353 I wouldn't put anything past the Vatican. It's very corrupt. As for putting the 4 gospels together yourself, which sources did you use?
Therefore, we have absolutely nothing in writing from piror to Babylon... I don't understand many things. One of them is how or why people ignore all the Prophets and Jesus himself when they went so far out of their way to tell us the scriptures we have were corrupted by the lying pen of the scribes.
Further, I can't for the life of me understand how anyone claiming to care anything about what Jesus had to say can so easily ignore the lot of it. He made no bones about the fact that the things he was saying would happen to the people he was speaking to in their lifetimes and everyone I know ignores this just because our history books don't agree. Did Flat Earth teach you people nothing about how this world works? They are lying to us about everything that is important. Let every man be a liar and Yah be true and so on.
I'm not sure I understand your point. Care to elaborate?
@@ccidral As a result of the crystal clear sayings of Jesus on multiple occasions, it is not possible for us to reasonably conclude anything other than the fact that the second coming has already come and gone and we are living in the little season spoken of in Revelation 20, after the thousand year reign of Christ as King on Earth had concluded. Are you asking about that part or another?
Thanks, I was asking about the entire comment.
*Flat Earther here folks. Pay no mind*
@@RestoringReality it's the minority view in eschatology. so it's entirely possible.
It seems Hebrew is the earlier written language of the three though.
If I were making a case for MT it would be based on the language.
Besides, the Bible is written by Hebrews about Hebrews,
not by Greeks or Samaritans.
That’s a great argument for the Hebrew, but unfortunately not for the Masoretic revision of the Old Hebrew. A charge that was commonly known and validated by early Christianity until Jerome bought the same Masoretic cover story you just mentioned, some 500 years after Christ.
I’d recommend some light reading like Justin Martyr’s Discourse with Tryphos the Jew circa 135 AD. Towards the end is where Justin makes his charge and quotes some of the redacted verses by the Masoretics (though they weren’t known by that name then).
The “Hebrew is better than Greek or Syrian” argument only works if those same Hebrews are dutifully and conscientiously transcribing the text and not redacting portions that are pro Jesus Christ as messiah.
The Masoretics pulled the biggest con in history with Jerome which has done untold damage since.
The NT match with the LXX more than the MT
Exemple:
Heb 1:7-8:
⁷ And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
⁸ But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is forever and ever: a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of thy kingdom.
The MT hasn't it but the lxx have it in psalm
Psa 45:6: LXX
⁶ Thy throne, God, is forever and ever; the sceptre of thy kingdom is a sceptre of rectitude.
Another one;
Jam 4:6:
⁶ It granteth indeed a greater favour, therefore it saith, "God resisteth the proud, and granteth favour to the humble."
In the MT;
Prov 3:34: (KJV)
³⁴ Surely he scorneth the scorners: but he giveth grace unto the lowly.
In the LXX;
Pro 3:34:
³⁴ The Lord resisteth the proud; but he granteth favour to the humble.
And so on...
Hwbeew is not fixed like quran
Lxx masorafic non align samaritan all diff not align no unbroken sequnece sinngle hebrew onlynothing like this
The NT match with the LXX more than the MT
Exemple:
Heb 1:7-8:
⁷ And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
⁸ But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is forever and ever: a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of thy kingdom.
The MT hasn't it but the lxx have it in psalm
Psa 45:6: LXX
⁶ Thy throne, God, is forever and ever; the sceptre of thy kingdom is a sceptre of rectitude.
Another one;
Jam 4:6:
⁶ It granteth indeed a greater favour, therefore it saith, "God resisteth the proud, and granteth favour to the humble."
In the MT;
Prov 3:34: (KJV)
³⁴ Surely he scorneth the scorners: but he giveth grace unto the lowly.
In the LXX;
Pro 3:34:
³⁴ The Lord resisteth the proud; but he granteth favour to the humble.
And so on...
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From my own studies the lxx is most reliable
The NT match with the LXX more than the MT
Exemple:
Heb 1:7-8:
⁷ And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
⁸ But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is forever and ever: a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of thy kingdom.
The MT hasn't it but the lxx have it in psalm
Psa 45:6: LXX
⁶ Thy throne, God, is forever and ever; the sceptre of thy kingdom is a sceptre of rectitude.
Another one;
Jam 4:6:
⁶ It granteth indeed a greater favour, therefore it saith, "God resisteth the proud, and granteth favour to the humble."
In the MT;
Prov 3:34: (KJV)
³⁴ Surely he scorneth the scorners: but he giveth grace unto the lowly.
In the LXX;
Pro 3:34:
³⁴ The Lord resisteth the proud; but he granteth favour to the humble.
And so on...