Bill Russell vs Wilt Chamberlain ● 1964 NBA Finals Highlights | 4K |
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- Опубліковано 7 жов 2023
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A big special thank you once again to @70sFan for helping to uncover rare NBA footage. The film has been colorized from black and white, the frames have been corrected for natural flow and the clips were up-scaled to 4k. Commentary was added also.
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Who is better.. Bill Russell or Wilt Chamberlain?
Individually and skill for skill...it's wilt...but if we're including intangibles...it could be argued as a toss up...I'm convinced that you can put Russell on anyteam and he'll turn his teamates into all stars caliber players... arguably the GREATEST mind and teammate in basketball just...they both can bring lottery teams to the finals but in different ways
Hey foobas have you ever considered compensating for old footage frame rate by increasing the speed by 10-15%?
@@JohnnyRodgers3 russell never proved anything without superteam SO U MUST BE DERANGED !! ALSO COUSY WAS MVP YEAR PRIOR RUSSELL DRAFT SHARMNAN WAS BEST SCORER IN NBA TOO SO HOW HE MADE OTHERS BETTER WHEN THEY WERE SUPERSTARS ALREADY BEFORE HE EVEN WAS IN NBA
@@PIP...33 they never won anyything before him and his teammates and red aurbach said tht bill changed the culture of the Celtics single handedly...they said he made individuals better
@@PIP...33 after all he was a player coach and STILL won...
I’m always frustrated that the NBA can’t do a dependable job of providing this footage. Guys like you are really doing an amazing thing for basketball.
Much appreciated 🙏🙏
Can’t argue with this one 💯
Facts
I’m convinced that theNBA just doesn’t want us to see what happened back in the day. They are hiding something. And I think it’s the fact that Wilt and Bill would really SMOKE the NBA
The nba sits on hd quality footage of every game ever played and they won’t release it I know people that work for the league
I’m 81 years old. I saw both of these guys in their prime. Trust me on this: If Wilt had the supporting Bill had, his team would have lost no more than 5 games a year. Russell was a truly great player. Unbelievable defensive player who could guard any player on the floor, regardless of position, fabulous rebounder. Underrated offensive player who averaged over 16ppg, without looking to score. Excellent hook shot, excellent post moves. Great athlete. Very fast, could jump out of the gym, terrific passer from the post, and a superb outlet passer as well. That said, Wilt was from another planet. The NBA has never seen his like, and
never will. Incredible blend of speed, strength, and skill. Had the best turnaround jump shot in the history
of the league in his prime. Russell played him tougher than anyone else, but he’d be the first to tell you he thought he did a great job if he
“held “him to less than 40. Wilt was an excellent passer from the post as well. Led the league in assists a couple of years. Could block shots all night. He and Russell were the greatest rebounders the game has ever seen. If he played today, and was 40 years old, he would destroy every center in the game. He’d average 45 and 20+ boards without working up a sweat.
Top comment mate. Thanks.
Wilt was a playoff choker lmao bill always outplayed him when it mattered the most besides in 68, when they were hurt and old, Russ had Jerry and Baylor and still lost no excuses lmao
Thanks for sharing. It sounds like Wilt was like Jordan without the Bulls. Wilt needed a better team around him to become the greatest ever winning the most championships.
This reminds me of when people used to argue over who was better between Barry Sanders and Emmitt Smith. Emmitt can't touch Barry in terms of skill, not even close, but Emmit had a Hall of Fame quarterback (Troy Aikman), Hall of Fame receiver (Michael Irvin), and Pro Bowl bound offensive lineman. Barry had Barry. The defense knew Barry was the only weapon the Lions had, and they *still* couldn't stop him.
If Barry had the team Emmitt had, he would have been broken every single rushing record in the book.
I agree with a lot of this, but best turn around jumper in NBA history…? 😅
this clip is better quality than all the 2000's NBA footage on UA-cam. What the hell.
crazy aint it
That’s a fucking good point.
This was shot on film and someone made a 4k recording from that film. If people upload high quality basketball games from this area. It probably just gets copyrighted quickly.
The NBA wants people to forget history and think everything is new, unfortunately.
@@Nocap69No it’s just film is a better and more dependable medium than direct-to-TV video tape
Damn Sam Jones had that middy on automatic. Bro the OG Demar Derozan 😂
I went to NCCU and I had never heard of buddy till I went there ( His Alma Matter ) looked up his highlights and thought the same thing you did buddy midrange is OD😂💯
One of the best midrange shooters ever don't let anyone tell you any different! Also some other greats were Hal Greer, Gail Goodrich, Jerry West, Oscar Robertson, and Bill Sharman.
Demar Derozan is so good i love him
Bill Russel did the tip dunk back then?! 😮 Damn. Live and learn. I will never underestimate any legend of the past ever again.
Russell, Wilt were excellent athletes as were several other's in that era. Baylor, Gus Johnson, West was pretty athletic, too, even young Oscar.
Wilt was actually the best player in the league at his time. He has a lot of offensive moves that’ll be effective even today
That fall away bank shot jump shot at 7’-1” is unstoppable
GREAT FOOTAGE. This looks awesome colourised. And its mind blowing just looking at Wilts body. He'd dominate today with EASE.
Much appreciated 🙏🙏
It’s crazy how good this looks
I hate how people dismiss this era as "a bunch of plumbers and milkmen". Like sure the talent and skill has grown since then, but you know what these were the best people that could play the sport at the time bar none.
It was the modern era when they were playing.
Right and we always look back on players and judge them with the knowledge we have from today. But none of that information was available at the time. That's why it's hard to compare players if different eras. You can't put them on the same playing field with so many different variables from their own eras. We should just enjoy what they did and remember that everything they did contributed to what we have today.
I was 8 years old little boy when our Milk Man Mike died....I cried my eyes out
This actually not true, some of the best of this time were still playing in the neighborhoods. They had some boys that were skilled with that ball that would of made this era very entertaining, they were just born a little too early.
I’m from the 80s and it’s one thing my generation does that I never agreed with. We compare these players to the new players. We compare different eras and you can’t do that. The kids today are damn near cyborgs compared to the competition Jordan had, Damn near any player today will be elite in the 80s, it’s time we only compare people in each era cause it’s not fare to the these legends at all.
I would simply not know how else to describe these two. Bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain were both ferocious on both ends of the court. They dominated with their height and their abilities to defend and score at anytime. They were so agile and strong that many other teams they played against were left helpless. These two sold a lot of tickets at ballgames and that's also what made them both so special. You've had legends after them, but the real surprise was that they've met each other in the finals and knew what they were both up against: each other. However, the Celtic's teams of those days had many great players around Bill Russell. The 76rs had Wilt to practically carry that team, then when the Lakers had Wilt, they also had a few other great players too as well, but the focus was on these two greats to compete against each other. This is why they always filled arenas. By the way, great job on the color re-creation here.
Much appreciated 🙏🙏
@@FoobasSports Wilt Chamberlains scoring dropped 8/8 playoff series against Bill Russell, 6/8 his efficiency dropped and 7/8 he lost even though Wilts team had the better record 4/8 times including the best record in the league from 1966-1968, Russell was 30 years or older for 6/8 of these matchups, Wilt was 30 years or older for only 3 of these series between 1960-1969. Russell’s scoring increased from that same season regular season average into the playoff series with Wilt 5/8 times. Enough said.
@@FoobasSportshow did the 76ers win nearly 60 games after trading Wilt for 45 cents on the dollar? Are you really that deluded? If Luke Jackson doesn’t get injured in 1969 they easily win 60+ games and get a higher seed allowing them to at least make it to the ECF. Plus their series with the Celtics would go completely different if Luke Jackson didn’t get hurt
Wilt Chamberlains scoring dropped 8/8 playoff series against Bill Russell, 6/8 his efficiency dropped and 7/8 he lost even though Wilts team had the better record 4/8 times including the best record in the league from 1966-1968, Russell was 30 years or older for 6/8 of these matchups, Wilt was 30 years or older for only 3 of these series between 1960-1969. Russell’s scoring increased from that same season regular season average into the playoff series with Wilt 5/8 times. Enough said.
Sam Jones will thrive in any era. He's almost automatic in mid ranges not even hitting the rim.
There’s so many guys lost to time that could play in any era.
@@dwoodstwinlol Even look at the floor no 3 point line barely a foul line and this guy’s automatic from the middy
All you often hear from his era is "Oscar and Jerry" "Jerry and Oscar." And understandably so. But Sam as well as Lenny Wilkens and Hal Greer, were legit great guards as well.
the block at 3:37 just shows wilts athletic ability oh my goodness 😯
Rest peacefully to these two hall of famers. They played against each other and bill russell won it all.
I will repeat myself. I don't know WHO YOU ARE. Some of this footages are like 60 years old and sometimes looks like were recorded yesterday in 4K.
OUTSTANDING JOB MY MAN!
PS: Still waiting for Elgin Baylor video
Facts dude unreal
Much appreciated 🙏🙏 A Larry Bird video will be next but after that I'm strongly considering a Elgin Baylor video.
@@FoobasSportsI just found your content. So glad I did! Shared this video with others too. I'd love to see a vid where you explain how you clean up this old footage. That would be super interesting. This is incredible.
@@AnHebrewChildMuch appreciated 🙏🙏🙏
Love the old school NBA
❤️ oldie NBA basketball
Bill was better than I thought,really enjoyed the work both Wilt and Russell put in
Russell seemed to have no answer for that shot off the glass from Wilt. Russell looks limited offensively but his speed and timing on defense and rebounding is incredible. Wilt looked like he could block anything.
Nobody had an answer for it. Wilt was the original shooter of the fadeaway at the center position and got a lot of his points off of it. People tried to claim he started shooting it because of Russell, but there's video of him shooting the fallaway in college. It was an almost unstoppable shot. The Wilt Chamberlain Archive UA-cam channel has a great video on it.
No painted key, just markers for where to stand for FTs.
It's wild seeing so many players clogging what today is the paint - since they didn't have to respect a 3-point shot.
Also, these guys look more athletic than I was led to believe.
Especially those named Russell and Chamberlin.
these dudes would get absolutely WASHED in today's game
Facts they are trash asf
Sam Jones was one Hell of a player, very smooth and a great shooter!
havlicek too.
Amazing video! Love the quality of the restoration. A few things I notice: Wilt and Russel would be able to hold their own against modern day NBA centers: both had amazing shot-blocking, as well as motor and athleticism. Also, Sam Jones is an almost automatic scorer.
Much appreciated 🙏🙏
They played in 1964 and then 58 years later, in 2022, they met again
This was the blueprint that Magic and Larry borrowed. TREMENDOUS matchups!
then Jordan then Kobe and Duncan then Lebron followed it. Right now we have Joker and Giannis as the faces of the league.
Watching these two is absolutely amazing to know they were friends and also competitive is astounding. Hearing these two interviewed talking together makes me love our great sport even more. They also pioneered what we needed
Super clear footage that only further reinforces the mastery of both Wilt and Bill. If you have neither in your top 10 you do not know basketball. +1 sub
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They are easily top 2 ever n guys like MJ and Kobe are so great cuz unlike most their fans, they understood and studied so closely the goathood of them and players of their era
Look at wilts ways of scoring, its so versitle no big nba would be able to guard him lol
Both are in my personal top 5.
Embiid said the man was the GOAT a few years back, then the media and Jordanite fanboys attacked him for his opinion LMAO@@Liam-ex4mf
This mini documentary is simply amazing. Your style/clips & story telling really is unique & well thought out.
Incredible highly edited clips that run so smoothly.
Keep bringing the greats light with all your hard work Foobas...
Thanks
Can't thank you enough 🙏🙏🙏
@@FoobasSportslove the vids, one complaint though, the music is a tad bit distracting.
@@dannyhernandez265 Appreciate that you like the videos.. I add music to the videos to avoid copyrights.
@@FoobasSports Wilt Chamberlains scoring dropped 8/8 playoff series against Bill Russell, 6/8 his efficiency dropped and 7/8 he lost even though Wilts team had the better record 4/8 times including the best record in the league from 1966-1968, Russell was 30 years or older for 6/8 of these matchups, Wilt was 30 years or older for only 3 of these series between 1960-1969. Russell’s scoring increased from that same season regular season average into the playoff series with Wilt 5/8 times. Enough said.
a pleasure to watch. So clean and beautiful. No half-hour iso dribbling, no open lanes, no three point baskets from half court. Just trying to score as fast as possible by using their athleticism and their brains. And great defense. Maybe the three point line IS the problem.
Overuse of the 3 is a problem.
Indeed, I've been saying that for years myself
@Los_Jefe oh I agree, and yes I'm aware I've been watching basketball for several years, domestic games as well as those abroad. Thank you for the correspondence! You is your pick for the finals, May I ask? I'm referring to NBA in that last context, my apologies
It’s crimina how good this footage is ! What a an amazing job you did, incredible!!!
Thank you for your kind words. Much appreciated 🙏🙏
alos incredible how slow and bad the game play in general was back then compared to today! I'll take SHAQ over any of these old farts lol
@@TheHubeefcasual.
ua-cam.com/video/3VlMSo7AXow/v-deo.html = shaq 50 plays@@dannyhernandez265
ua-cam.com/video/8xr3i9jpiTE/v-deo.html = Wilts best plays...WIGGAS plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz wake up! SHAQ #1
Fascinating watching these restored films
The editing here is underrated. Far from perfect, but considering how old the footage is, even with funky colours this looks great!
Much appreciated 🙏🙏
10:50 refs were a lot more entertaining back then. This is amazing footage. Really shows the opponents that Wilt faced aren't as small as they say they were. He just had an incredible arsenal of different shot types that no one does anymore. I could only imagine how many people told Bill Russell in his face that he wasn't in the top 5 greatest of all time since they never had a chance to see him play live but he has all the rings to prove it. Thank you for compiling all this footage and sharing it. Hope you have a happy new year!
Much appreciated 🙏🙏
What the fuck were you watching? Wilts opponents literally move out the way.
@@julianbashir8277 you obviously didn’t watch the video.
Thanks for this video.. I always thought Wilt chamberlain doesn't get his credit.... He is the true goat with Videos game high score records
Thank you for watching 🙏🙏
This quality is simply amazing. It might’ve been a different era, but a lot of these guys can hoop!
60 years ago is crazy to think about and also that both these legends have sadly passed between those years.
Wilt obviously bigger and more skilled but Russell’s IQ and motor make up for it
This footage is incredible!! Seriously amazing stuff! Thank you for all your hard work!!!!
Looking forward to all the other legends you post 🤝
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Watching this makes me understand why the pace back then was similar to today's game because they're doing a lot of the same things, quick offense, fast breaks, pull up jumpers, and deep shots coming off screens. I won't lie the plumbers narrative and memes shaped my perception of the game back then like in reality they were not the cleanest ball handlers but they were still athletic and fast.
There were many strict rules back then. You were only allowed to dribble the top of the ball. Makes everything more stiff and less fluid. I get amazed when I hear that these guys supposedly couldn't dribble with their weak hand. I can dribble with my opposite and I'm not skillful. Skill is overated anyway.
Wilt did a lil sky hook around 6:20 I love it 😫🏀🏀
It was my great privilege to see them compete during yhe 60's
Wilt had too much respect to clock Russell, and Russell had too much good sense to try to Clock Wilt. 😂
Wilt DID clock Clyde Lovelette in this series for playing him dirty, and also for injuring Wilt's jaw with a deliberate elbow in 1959.
Wilt used to stay with Bill Russell when they played.
Unselfish passing and ball movement. An all-in fastbreak and defensive mindset. Smart shot selection. Need I say more!!!
This is beautiful it is so clean and clear thank you.
Much appreciated! Thank you for watching 🙏🙏
i was a year old when this game was played...I have a renewed interest in these 2 players...or should I say Goats...Thanks again for the Video
7:01 Everyone is playing Basketball while Wilt is casualy passing like its a Handball game. Unreal!
stop
So beautiful to watch!
Millions of thanks ❤
Much appreciated & thank you for watching 🙏🙏
The pace of these games is night and day compared to today's game.
It was actually at a similar pace to what it is now, it's just all the time in between the current era and their era it was slower. There's other videos that illustrate this on graphs. It's no coincidence the greatest scoring seasons are right now and back then.
@@nickflahive8903 But difference is, game was more physical in 1960s with hand-checking involved
@@TylerHingleton Also, there were only two referees and a lot of activity away from the ball was missed.
Bill Russell went against a front line of Nate Thurmond and Wilt Chamberlain…
Honestly could not think of 2 bigger & stronger men to come up against, regardless of the basketball being involved!
more like wilt went against the boston celtics. Nate Thurmond was a rookie not the nate thurmond HOF level
@@MrDotaleavers either way bro, bill russell had no backup for center for him and wilt had that, 2 guys that can get you 40-50 rebounds combined as well as 40-50 points offense; as well as their own defense. Bill Russell withstood all that and still got the W
@@jeremyzingale1456 im a celtics fan but we literally had the super team of that time foh
That's 40% 7ppg rookie Nate Thurmond, that's like saying Shaq didn't make it to the finals in 1997 despite having Kobe.
If these 2 played in today's NBA they would dominate
lololol
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Bill Russel is the best defensive player ever. He was outstanding look at his post defense here.
I appreciate this footage 😎 need more of it but for now I'm extremely grateful 🙏🏾 🤟🏾💯
Much appreciated 🙏🙏🙏 There will be more to come.
@@FoobasSports thank you🙏🏾💯
Play basketball in a pair of old-school Converse sneakers? It’s amazing these guys didn’t break an ankle.
Bill had more help on his team wilt was basically the team he average 50 points 25 rebounds
Yea Bill’s uproach to facing Wilt was smart let him do the scoring not letting his team get involved
@@THE_HORSEYY You see the garbage Wilts team was throwing at the rim? I wouldn't let them touch the ball either lol
Bill is a top 10 player. But wilt is greatest of all time
Seeing these videos in color is so much better!
This is basketball imo. LIke watching a chess match between two titans. Like a war of attrition. Now you don't see the same defense being played or the same will to win the game. It's more about who can score the most points which it's always been but the Celtics would not only outscore opponents but create enough havoc to keep their opponents score lower. These players were still great athletes. Even if you look at olympic records players have gotten a split second faster or can jump higher but world class athletes have always been on another plateue. As far as the event too. These players were tough as nails as far as their mindsets some of them. Whether it was the old working class or the military or slavery. You had people who were conditioned differently. The game is more spread out now. Built from the inside out. It's now more designed to promote more scoring. Players are seen as more skilled but even that is debateable imo. I willl say the talent level now is as good as its been in a long time. There has been an influx of a lot of young talent the last decade or so. How the game is played is literally backwards though but getting back to it in ways. From a purest form, The 60's was basketball at it's purest imo. The 80's was really the golden age and probably the best combination of talent and quality of play. The 90's was predicated on interior scoring and was the Michael Jordan era and predicated on the individual. the 21st century has been a mess imo and they completely removed the interior portion of the game. It's not even about basketball sometimes its about something else entirely and $$$$ and marketing.
This was fascinating. I've never seen this 1964 series.
bill russels hook shot at 3 minutes was beautiful. players today have no clue how good he was
😂😂😂😂😂
great restoration
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Great to have UA-cam to watch classic footage in updated visuals to watch the great past talents that names will be mentioned forever
Great quality and great footage really a blessing to watch you guys upload footage the NBA can’t do. Well deserved buddy. You earned a subscriber 💯
Much appreciated 🙏🙏🙏
Di Stéfano, one of the best football (soccer in the USA) players of all time, said: “No player is as good as all of them together.”
Cousy would say that was a huge reason he would take Russell over Wilt.
One thing that really stands out is how quickly Russell gets in the air
And...how many centers back then could bring the ball upcourt?
@@alanfoster6589 Almost none. Bill Russell was unique in several ways. He was a bit "undersized" and used skills and quickness to tie up the opposing team defensively (these clips show a little of this). r. i. p. Bill Russell, the Championship GOAT
Yes. Far more agile than nearly every center he played against. Also, smarter.@@williestyle35
One thing that really stands out is how trash everyone is
@@julianbashir8277bet every single one of them you whoop you and all your friends too lol
That basket at 6:02 is unstoppable even in today's league. I don't see anyone shot blocking that.
"And THE BIG GUYS push each other once in a while" 😊😊😊 GOATed announcer
just a little, kinda soft push''
What a sight...no palming, no travel, no nonsense moves....sound fundamentals...
from a plumber's perspective, they definitely utilized the tools they had
Bill Russell Sam Jones and John Havlicek just knew how to win close games. Every stats is shouting that fact but still so many people dont get it. It might be the most amazing thing in basketball ever. Havlicek won two rings in seventies as well.
Absolutely excellent video. Thank you for doing this hardwork.
Thank you for watching 🙏🙏🙏
Imagine if rules allowed Wilt to play bully ball like Shaq back then.
Imagine we had a time machine....I would love to see some of those matchups.....every player in their prime.
The rules did allow it. He claims that he didn’t want to play like that out of concern for needlessly injuring other players.
@@fieryjalapenos4442 Sounds like an excuse. He was competitive as hell. No one that competitive ever takes it easy. Though maybe at times he did feel that way to some degree. He was so much bigger and stronger than everyone, especially back then.
@@billj4525 he said that himself, that’s something you’d have to talk to him about.
@@fieryjalapenos4442 He passed away anyway. Not an excuse, but an exaggeration. RIP Wilt.
R.I.P Goats👑🙏🐐
shoutout for remastering this footage
if wilt had Mr. Rusell, he would be the greatest winner in sports, I'm 27 and watched footage and studied players that has come and gone I can say without a doubt wilt is the greatest player of all time
Guys that "fallaway jumper" cannot be stopped...
Notice how well dressed the fans are…
Dawg watching him go from just chilling watching the floor to making the right defensive read and pouncing like a panther before the ball was shot… Mr. Chamberlain was a dog, straight off the chain. 27 rebounds avg in the Finals is Titanic 🥶
RIP “Big Dipper” ✨🌟✨
Russell, Wilt, and Sam Jones could’ve played in any era
All time starting five:
PG Magic Johnson
SG Michael Jordan
SF Larry Bird
PF Bill Russel
Ce Wilt Chamberlain
Anyone else have the same lineup?
PG - Magic Johnson
SG - Michael Jordan
SF - LeBron James
PF - Larry Bird
C - Shaquille O'Neal
Yup. That's my 5 too. Magic, mj,bird,russell,wilt
@@stevenyoung6143 you're a smart man.
@@magnol1a_ I might take Hakeem over Shaq, simply based on FT% differential.
Pg-magic johnson
Sg-kobe bryant
Sf-lebron
Pf-kareem
C-shaq
I’m going to touch more of the mere fact that the rules were called way differently back then compared to today. I’ve already been through the comments firing back at bad/good takes of “These eras sucked” or “Nothings changed” or even of an 81 year old sharing his first hand experience so I will conclude that it’s almost too hard to compare Wilt and Russel on surface level aspects because they seemingly had different goals.
I do want to touch on how they called fouls and violations though because it seems way different back then but like ACTUALLY AUTHENTIC to what I think Basketball is and everyone else. Yes you are gonna get super star calls but today i feel like its inflated to the max, and even with missed travel calls. What i am trying to say is the game needs 1 extra Ref to be properly observed. We are in a world where everyone wants to be involved too so whats the issue with an extra ref? It would crack down on horrible missed calls, bad calls but also just give a lot more awareness for a seemingly such a new and spontaneous game.
Back then it was TOTALLY way more simple and up pace and everything but its because there were way less elements to the game. Less moves invented, less possible shots or combos, strategies, even first hand experience and inspiration seemed to have moved slowly across the nation. So to that point of it being completely expanded, why not add an extra brian to interpret and understand it all as it happens live.
I really appreciate this footage though i have shared it like crazy!!!!!!!!! 🎉
Really appreciate the comment and you sharing the video around 🙏🙏
No carrying, no gather steps (travels), consistent defense.
Authentic basketball.
And no three point line 🤓
Gather steps have been around since the 80s bro and today’s defense is probably the best we’ve ever seen. Only thing that can compare is the early 2000s
Pretty easy to play consistent defense when everyone barely moves 😂😂 I’m not trying to diss these guys, they were obviously the best of the best in their era! But watch defenses try to switch around screens and chase Curry all around the court. Don’t be fooled by gatekeeper old heads, defense is much tougher nowadays.
If you didn’t see any travels you really don’t care to open your eyes or use your brain. So many damn travels and could only dribble with one hand. Yall are ridiculous.
This is why it’s important for people to actually WATCH Russell play. People look at stat sheets and just assume wilt just overly dominated russ. But watching showcases just how important russell was ok both ends for Boston. He wasn’t really looking to score. The things he did on offense don’t show up in the box scores. Screens, lots of dribble hand offs, hockey pass assist, outlets, saving the loose balls, bringing his man out the lane to find back door cuts, etc. very draymond green like responsibilities for the offense. And when he needed to, he could up his scoring. Oh and wilt is well… wilt. LOL
Yeah, Bill Russell was a Dwight Howard of the 60's.
Lets be fair, Chamberlain was the best player but Russell had the best team.
@@viniciussantos2857 let’s be fair and not just speak as if half those guys were superstars. People always say how great the teams were but know an absolutely nothing about anyone on that teams besides hondo and cousy. How many people actually look into who Tom heinson or kc jones were and what their roles were? People know the name Sam Jones but don’t know what he brought to the table. Just saying they were great doesn’t suffice when half these people don’t know WHY they were great. That whole team was was offensive weapons yet the celts were the worst offensive team in basketball nearly that whole decade, yet they continued to dominate. Simultaneously they were by far the best defense in the game every single year with Russell being the focal point, as their entire scheme was to push everything other the middle and let Russell pick everything off, which led to fastbreaks for them all game long to which Russell initiated. Before Russell they were terrible on both ends even with cousy as an mvp. With Russel they were world beaters, after Russell, they IMMEDIATELY fell back into mediocrity on defense until cowens and hondo both developed into stars. They were not this 2018 golden state team people try to portray them as. Sure they were talented but they were not unbeatable. They just had the advantage of their being no free agency and they built a master system and had a whole decade to develop chemistry compared to everyone else. But the vast majority of their finals runs went the distance. Plus we can’t ignore that even when wilt got a ton of hof help on both Philly and La, he STILL was only able to beat Russell once. Why is that? He was at the peak of his powers between 65 and 69 with Hal Greer, Cunningham, etc, the Elgin, jerry, Goodrich, etc and only musters one victory against the Celtics before Russell retired? And there’s context to some of these things that weren’t entirely wilts fault, but some of those losses were winnable and wilt just didn’t perform. Call it what u will but to me that’s a flaw that Russell just did not possess. Wilt may have been the more dominant individual talent for sure. But imo in a 5v5 setting Russell was the superior talent. He made his guys better, he did his job to perfection, he came in with a strategy to win, and he got it done. The he had a better team logic would only work if the Celtics were blowing teams off the floor and wilt didn’t stand a chance. But they were going to game 6 and 7s with wilt, Pettit, and the lakers duo of Jerry and Elgin nearly every single year and Russell and company just simply knew how to close the deal while wilt just never did and often got worse in the big moments.
@@viniciussantos2857 two completely different talents. He’s more like draymond mixed with a bit of Tim Duncan and Ben Wallace
Story of how Bill Russell's family came to California during The Great Migration is in the book The Warmth of Other Suns. He would have never been permitted to play college ball in the South back in the day.
His father got his family out of the South. Then he looked after Bill properly well after his wife died while working a tough job. No wonder Bill has so much respect for him.
Sam got a nasty pull up game
Classic SG for ANY era!
Today's NBA: grab the ball, shoot a 3 pointer. If missed, Grab the rebound and shoot another 3. Makes the 3. Other team runs to the other side, shoots a 3, misses, grab rebound and kicks it to the corner for another 3. Rinse and repeat.
Man, Sam Jones was automatic from midrange.
this is beautiful
Great footage really superb video
Thank you 🙏🙏
Needed this today
This is great. These are the trailblazers and get full respect. That being said, it's just so interesting to see how much the game has evolved with far superior spacing and ball movement. There is little offfball actions that the game looks stiff. Also, people were smoking INSIDE the building!
I love this colored fotage thx so much for this
Much appreciated! Thank you for watching 🙏🙏🙏
Wilt out scored, out rebounded and out shot Bill in every series they played. Wilt held Bill to less than 40% shooting 5 out of 8 series. Wilt averaged 28 rebounds a game vs Bill, has 3 30 rpg series and numerous rebounding playoff records vs the Celtics. Wilt had a quadruple double vs the Celtics. 22/32/10/10. Wilt outplayed Bill in elimination games as well. I used TS% instead of FT% to keep it close.
Elimination Games(EG) and Game 7's
EG's (pts/rba/ast/ts%)
Wilt: 29.8/28.2/2.3/54.4
Russell: 11.0/24.6/4.8/45.5
Finals EG's
Wilt: 24.0/27.0/2.5/50.59
Russell: 7.5/20.0/4.0/41.48
Game 7's
Wilt: 21.0/28.8/3.3/60.87
Russell: 13.0/24.5/5.0/49.77
Finals Game 7
Wilt: 18/27/3/65.60
Russell: 6/21/6/34.25
Bill Russell won 2 NCAA titles with San Francisco. Wilt failed to win one with Kansas. Bill joined a team that had won 2 playoff series ever, and proceed to only lose 2 for the next 13 seasons. Chamberlain joined a team that had won 2 titles, and had the core of the 56 team, essentially replacing (other good stats ≠ good team) center Neil Johnston. The Warriors, not the Celtics were the favorites in 1960. Wilt was traded in his prime twice. Bill Russell would’ve never been traded (although he technically got traded after being drafted by the Hawks). 1968 and 1969 prove that Wilt could not have out performed Russell (in a hypothetical where he and Bill swap places), blowing a 3-1 and 3-2 led to Celtics teams that shouldn’t have had a chance to beat them…losing Game 7s at home.
I used to think Chamberlain was better, but the more I research, the more obvious he wasn’t.
@@shadow81in I'm going to address the fallacy of how "Bill" shut down Wilt 8 out of 8 series using Wilt's ppg for a season. Wilt always had less ppg and more rpg vs the Celtics. RS and playoffs. Anyway, here is a list, by year, of Wilt's ppg in the playoffs against what he averaged in the RS against the Celtics. Not the rest of the league.. I'm not including 1960 and 1962 because those were anomalous for various reasons, which I am willing to discuss in other posts.
1964: Wilt averaged 29.1 ppg in the playoffs and 29.1 ppg in RS. (29/27)
1965: Wilt averaged 30.1 ppg in the playoffs and 25.4 in the RS. (30/31)
1966: Wilt averaged 28.0 ppg in the playoffs and 28.3 ppg in the RS. (28/30)
1967: Wilt averaged 21.6 ppg in the playoffs and 20.6 ppg in the RS. (22/32/10/10)
1968: Wilt averaged 22.1 ppg in the playoffs and 17.1 in the RS. (22/25/7)
@@shadow81in Bill joined the team half way through the season and they were already in first place. They had the best back court in the league(Cousy and Sharmin were already ALL NBA). Heinsohn won Rookie of the Year and Cousy won MVP. The next season, Sam Jones joined team and played 12 years with Bill, retiring at the same time. Cousy was the Team Captain for the first 6 rings, handing it over to Bill after he retired. Cousy made ALL NBA 12 times in 13 years(10 times First Team and was never lower than eigth place in MVP voting for his career). With no free agency, the team stayed together for their whole careers, replacing plaers as needed. Like Havlicke coming off the bench for his first 7 years. Must be nice.
On top of that, the Celtics employed an illegal zone defense and enforcers against Wilt. Which is why in the 1960's playoffs, Wilt had to leave a game after bruising his hand trading punches with Heinsohn. Then in the 1964 Finals, Wilt knocked Lovelette senseless after Auerbach sicced him on Wilt.
"stand in Chamberlain’s way whenever the Warriors scored, thereby preventing Chamberlain from getting back to defend his basket while Russell rushed down to take an open shot." This is what Auerbach would have his players do. Heinsohn was doing this in the 1960's playoffs and Wilt took some swings at Heinsohn cause no fouls were being called. He actually injured his hand and only scored 12 points in this game. So, a lot of credit is given to Bill when it was the team and Auerbach's deviousness.
@@oldeskoolnewsreels9927And, most importantly, Wilt lost and the Celtics won. I’m sure he would have traded all those stats for the rings that Russ and the Celtics got!
@@FjskNdnd True, except for the fact that his teams lost. He didn't lose just like Bill didn't win, the Celtics did. I'm sure he would have traded them for more rings, but he was told to play that way by his owner and coach when he was on the Philly Warriors. Even though he only won two rings, which is a team accomplishment, Wilt was the only player on both the 1967 Sixers and the 1972 Lakers. Both teams are Top 4 teams for wins in a season AND winning the championship. The Lakers also won 33 games in a row starting the day Wilt took over as Team Captain. So, even though it's only two rings, both come from a team with some of the best records ever.
Wilt is something else. Wow!
Crazy how people are saying that these players are plumbers, the defense was physical af
2 Greats 🥰👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾❤️🖤💚✊🏾❤️🖤💚 bless their souls 🙏🏽😘
Sam Jones pretty modern jump shoot.
12:43 is genuinely great defense on that post-up. Stands his ground to prevent a bully move or spin, puts his hands up to defend the shot, and there was good help defense. That was just a great shot.
yeah man its called a fadeaway not that impressive of a shot from the MVP of the league!
@@valto5477 tell that to Dirk who is going in the Hall because he could consistently hit that shot without a 5 time MVP guarding him and a double team.
@@geoffreysorkin5774 lmao im not saying its a bad shot what are u talking about? just not that mindblowing from one of the greatest players EVER
@@valto5477 I never said it was mind blowing. I said it was great defense and a better shot.
Its always interesting seeing how many commenters believe time travel is possible, and they could "drop in" a modern player back then. Any "modern player" born in 1930 would receive the same poor coaching, primitive medical care, zero nutrition, and horrible shoes, and would not be "modern" at all. Wilt born in 1995 would be spotted as a 6-7 sixth grader, and put into "the system" with the finest of everything. He would still be the best center in the NBA by an even greater margin.
By the way- I was born in 1949 and saw both these guys throughout most of their careers...
I came along later, but enjoyed it and have the greatest respect for them. Saw Kareem, Gilmore and Walton and Moses. But Bill and Wilt are top of the (C) list.
Absolutely amazing 😊
I read wilts book a while back and he had said that any true 7foot center could score 30-40. points a game if the team passed the ball to him..but than nobody would want to watch it since it would be boring. Hence the bird magic Jordan era run and gun style of play since it was more fun to watch
I’ve heard something similar in regard to the post game when The Warriors made shooting 3’s valuable. That the post game is just ineffective and a ball stopper for most offenses because everyone is just standing and watching the big guy battle for 2.
It’s hypocritical in one aspect, because that’s literally what James Harden’s game was in Houston. He played constant 1v1’s with shooters just standing around him and he was praised. Even other teams started copying that.
When I see this footage they look too lanky to me. I’m shorter but very strong and I’d just bully them out of the only space they are effective in.
8:13 🔥🔥🔥 that fastbreaking passing ball don’t touch the floor
Wilt always looks like he's holding back low key
That’s because he was! (WTF do you think he was called “the gentle giant”?)
They're all so composed and respect each other as long as they don't cross the line (some body checking here and now but not many big fights and arguing). Couldn't stand the macho attitude brewing in the 80s, glad it's down a notch and bullying the referees is at least fun sometimes (like that time Rondo I believe grabbed that photographer's camera).
Love watching these videos from different players in the past that many of us never got to see. Now, only small complain i have here, is that the block here 3:38 kinda seemed like goaltending. I could be wrong, but it does seem like Wilt jumped way after the ball was in the air.
Goaltending was invented in 1944 so it was there before Wilt entered the NBA. Referees to this day make mistakes.. I'm sure some have motive behind it too.
Great film footage, wow!!