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The Spectacular Failure of TSR Games
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A friend and I were watching the Orange Bowl (American college football) years ago, featuring 2 teams we didn't like. It was one of the worst games I've ever seen. At one point, I remember my friend saying, "This game is such a spectacle of ineptitude, they should declare it a loss for both teams and toss the trophy into the Gulf of Mexico."
That is how I felt about this story. Immensely entertaining and informative, thank you!
Classic bad guy fight... (sigh)
I love how LaNasa sent a bunch of his awful legal documents to Dungeons & Discourse, an actual attorney, who can easily spot true merits of all of it.
The saddest thing for me was watching the whole situation create a rift between Gary's sons, Luke and Ernie.
Because Luke is hardworking, and Ernie is lazy, thoughtless, and lives in denial about reality and what happened with the game.
Luke is a worthy successor, whereas Ernie is a family embarrassment who really shouldn't ever show his face in gaming ever again. Ernie partnered with a man who attacked his brother Luke by emailing Luke's wife suggesting infidelity, trying to get Luke's military pension revoked, and tried to take out Luke's convention which had been going on for almost sixteen years.
Ernie Gygax willingly threw in with him, knowing that he was trying to attack his brother. To me, that is spineless and disgusting. Ernie is a shitty human being.
How to be so awful you make the company that uses 19th Century Robber Barron tactics the good guys.
It takes a special kind of stupid to make WotC look like both the smarter and the nicer organisation.
Thanks for your research and doing such a good job of explaining the situation.
it's a unique skillset!
Really telling how many people on the 'enemies' list were former colleagues.
Almost like someone doesn't play well with others.
Justin has backstabbed all of his former allies. He's not the type to make friends. It's hard when you have huge insecurity issues.
@@Shakeshift Well, Nazi's are not famous for their ability to get along with others.
An impressive amount of research went into this. Details do matter, so thank you for that.
This video is interrupting my game prep for our group's session later today, but I'll be damned if I miss it.
I'm glad you pointed out that NuTSR is not the real TSR, but it makes me so sad that anyone associates these fake posers with the real TSR that Gary Gygax founded. NuTSR has gotten their stink all over everything.
I went there in March. Mr. LeNasa bought the house TSR where they ran TSR as a company. Gary Gygax's house is privately owned and can be rented out to play DnD in the basement. (Just to clarify)
What's so baffling to me is they had it on easy mode and they still blew it.
Like they could have just released a mediocre 2E clone and been rolling in cash.
Brand recognition and nostalgia can get you really far in today's market and there are fans who miss the old TSR era so a revival of 2E would have been hyped as hell.
The business model simply writes itself. They had this whole thing on easy mode and they fucked it up so spectacularly!
No, clearly it is the Wokes' fault. /s
@@SamWeltzin Because of course it's wokeness! It can't possibly be people reasonably reacting to my shitty behavior. LOL
@@lordrorek1907 Nope, definitely the wokeness. *Nods in adult child.*
@@lordrorek1907yep seems like wokeness ruins the day again 🗿
Google was not wrong about grits; specifically it is porridge made from hominy.
As an old fart, I’m saddened that the name TSR has forever been tarnished. One of those TSRs could have made an OSR game and made a lot of money.
My God! You have to be at a different level, to send questionable legal documents to a DnD UA-camr, who used to be a lawyer.
And Tenkar used to work for the NYPD. NuTSR was all kinds of stupid.
The legal team probably took business law 101 freshman year and threw around words like tort and liable at the hiring interview and was given the job.
Never mess with a literal rules lawyer. You'd have better luck drawing five cards of the deck of many things at once!
Seems to me the moral of the story is: Don't make a company named TSR with Ernie Gygax Jr. That's a 3-time losing proposition.
But, man, most of the people involved don't seem very stable...do they all live in the same place? I want to stay away from there.
Wisconsin and North Carolina. Two states not exactly known for their quality environments.
Yes, they do. It is called La-la Land.
10:01 I learned about killing off the male bloodline and enslaving/assimilating the women and children happening in my University level US history class among the tribes of the great lakes. During that section we watched the movie "Black Robe". This is a practice done all over the world through out history to assimilate other groups by the genocide of the male bloodline and erasing their history, It's happened in Europe, in Asia, in Africa, etc. The problem is he didn't give that kind of context so it made it sound like something only Native American practiced EDIT: remembered the movie we watched
I think it's problematic both for the implied singling out of native Americans as "the only ones who did it" *and* for the implied generalization of "it was a thing native Americans (as a whole) did".
As a fan of the original TSR and it's products I'm a bit sad that the trademark of my favorite gaming company has been being dragged through the mud by these guys, they might want to preserve it's legacy but they've obviously done it in the wrong way. I think Gary would be rolling in his grave if he knew, and I'm not talking about dice. As much as WotC has irritated me over the years this is worse, and yes this new TSR should go bankrupt. Let the old trademark rest while it could still potentially have some remaining dignity. I could say more but I'll hold off, thanks for another interesting video. Make sure to have fun and have a good day. =^_^=
Yeah, agreed. I think “the architects of D&D” Chris Perkins and Jeremy Crawford have done the intellectual property dirty.
After the latest space monkey slave trade debacle, how does Chris Perkins still have a job? 🤔
@@1970joedub Now that there is a darn good question.
I don't know, I think TSR the brand can comeback, but only in the hands of RPGpundit, the final boss in internet shitlords!
Not sure he would be rolling in his grave. Gary Gygax was not without his own controversial opinions... The one that stands out to me was his opinion of women in RPGs... But anyway I'm glad as a majority we are able to show walking pieces of shit like this where the door is.
Gary needs to rise as a Lich or Demi lich and come slap these fools around including his own sons
It was amazing watching how hard he tried to insult as many people as possible in crowd of old school game fans.
It must have taken a Herculean effort to be much worse then WOTC.
honestly I prefer the Warner Brothers disclaimer vs the WOTC one. One sounds more like "Ya we got history" vs "Don't you know we the good guys? Even those this content is CLEARLY EVIL! We still want to use it and make it for MONEY!" At least that how I read into the WOTC one due to how they end it. Like if they are legit that embarrassed by it. Why not make something new and not DnD related? O right. they will never do that.
NuTSR actually kinda got me excited, I thought we might have a new cool OSR company, they had a neat theme park idea, but then… it all just started getting weirder and weirder. And by that, I just mean worse and worse.
In DnD lore, there's this ongoing even known as the Blood war. This reminded me of that with all the evil faction vs evil faction fighting.
Yep, everyone hates them both and nobody wants either side to win.
Who in this case are Devils and Who are Demons?
@@stingerjohnny9951 WoTC is corporately more organized. Devils.
The other ones are more random chaotic rogue-style ones understanding mostly just power. Demons.
Hi. I enjoy watching your podcasts!
I was with TSR1 for 5 years and tangentially involved with TSR2 (God, you *do* need a program to tell the players!) and would like to offer a small clarification.
Top Secret is the 1980 game from TSR1, designed by Merle Rasmussen and edited by me. To his credit (at least for this part of the story), when Jayson Elliot (TSR2 aka Solarian) decided to produce a new game with the Top Secret trademark, he got Merle again as lead designer, myself as lead editor, and we and others as part of the design team. Over two years of discussion, development, and playtesting, TSR2 came out with Top Secret: New World Order, which had entirely different game mechanics and content and is enjoying pretty decent success with fans. TSR2 at least understood that claiming a trademark didn't mean you owned any Intellectual Property associated with it.
Thanks,
Allen Hammack
Hi, Allen! Seconding your remarks. I also want to just say what a great writer and editor Allen is, and that people should try and get into one of his games if you ever see him running them at a convention. Allen's a great guy.
I know I kickstarted it for history/nostalgia. Not 100% sure I have read the PDFs, but I have them on my games memory stick and can get from Drive Thru any time I want.
I’m friends with someone on that enemy list (Gamers on Games), so I got to hear all about it as it happened. Excellent job summarizing a large amount of bad decisions and nonsense.
I did learn half of this information as it happened, but the second half was new to me. This is absolute bonkers. Ernie & Co come off as absolutely delusional, from how they present themselves.
Anyway, great video!
5:08 "and they're here to make games great again..."
Well, that certainly is a specific turn of phrase. I'm sure it won't proove to be significant in any... ah, yeah. There it is.
The general theme here seems to be business plans whose entire content is "I'mma cast fireball on my crotch!".
It's the WoTc Whoopsie!
its baffling how it literally just kept getting worse and worse and worse. this felt like watching a movie, didnt know what was gonna come up next, those people are absolutely unhinged.
You need a follow up on this case next year when it drops. Woot!
Bankruptcy of Nutsr will result in this being a win for Wotc.
thanks Kev!!!! I'll be following it for sure :D
That pull quote from the new Star Frontiers reminds me of an old televised debate on racial differences that aired on the CBC, here in Canada back in the 80s, that we discussed in college. In our college discussion we talked about how the racist lost the debate, miserably , and then blamed his loss on the racially superior intellect of the other party. Not his real words, but to apply an apt WoTC style disclaimer, his actual words were just as wrong then as they are today, and of yes he double down on a live TV broadcast and made himself both irrelevant and a loser at the same time with his most brilliant bit of multitasking. I see the various "new" TSRs the same way and am always amazed they cannot figure out the simple trick of shutting up before they dig a deeper hole for themselves.
TSR (under Williams) often went to war against their own fan base many times.
WoTC (under a different lady Williams), is doing the same thing. TSR went bankrupt over it, & so will WoTC.
Don't let another Williams own it next. Repeating the same mistakes is sad.
And this game deserves better.
Who doesn't enjoy wrestling in grits from time to time.
Only in cheesy grits, gotta have standards.
Depends if they are cooked on not, I hear people have to kneel in uncooked grits as punishment and it hurts a lot
Did not see that twist about getting the documents send coming 😂
Are we sure Lanasa isn't secretly Lionel Hutz? "Wait a minute... This verdict is written on a cocktail napkin! And it still says guilty! And it's spelled wrong!" 😂😂😂
New Dungeons & Discourse videos are always exciting and this one in particular was excellent. Ty!
Varg Vikernes wrote a Rolemaster based rpg once. Not sure if you can still buy that. It was hilariously racist.
It’s called MYFAROG. And yes you can still find it on the internet. It is as ridiculous as Varg himself.
@@driftinHank29what does it stand for
@@TheGayestAspen MYthic FAntasy ROleplaying Game. I'm not kidding. That's what MYFAROG stands for.
Myfarog is also a steaming pile of garbage as RPGs go
I believe that in this case, TSR stands for "Those Stupid Rac!sts."
Wotc
Wankers of the coast!
Hey this is fun!
Regardless of how anyone feels about the "Values" (?) of old TSR products, it's amusing that WOTC is willing to make money off of them anyway. Just slap a disclaimer on there and gather up the bucks. :P
Do you want Gygax with your Gygax; so you can Gygax your Gygax Gygax?
They are worth the small price still, if you need them, otherwise I don't buy anything from Wotc. But I'm an old gamer with tons of stuff already.😊
The adventures are small self contained and often quite fun. They vary but are easy to adapt to any fantasy rpg, and for some of us older dudes, they have some nostalgia too. I think it's nice wotc still make them available and don't mind the disclaimer at all. I haven't bought any since January but I'm still glad they are there for those who want them and the small profit from all these items combined doesn't really amount to anything on the wotc balance sheet. They could easily blow the entire annual profit on one utterly pointless Pinkerton raid.
"Who the hell has that much porridge?" Apparently Sir Jason, did....LOL. Great video and thanks for deliciously nerdy-fun content!
IMHO, TSR3 made a major blunder. What they should have done is peacefully contacted WotC and worked out the ability to publish adventures through the licensing platform.
I didn't think I'd be on WotC's side ever again, but in this instance I think I can flip them a half-hearted thumbs up while they grind whatever is wearing the corpse skin of TSR into the dirt.
I don't know. I view it as two pedophiles fighting to prove who's the worse predator.
Both sides are evil as heck at this point (which pre-Hasbro WotC arguably was not, and definitely not before Magic came out), but that's okay. When evil fights evil the good guys win.
Goddamn, that was an awesome video. 1st: Grits are like porridge but it is made from a puffy white corn called hominy. They used to use lye, the active ingredient in drain cleaners, to prepare the hominy and they still might. Grits can be served with butter, jelly, syrup, sugar, cream, crumbled bacon, cheese and shrimp (prawns). Living in the Mid-Atlantic/East Coast of the US offers me the option of having them if I want to, but never having to have them if I do not.
2nd: It is sort of like every company that touches D&D makes you say: "What a disappointing bunch of people."
hominy is still made with lye - the corn has to go through a chemical process called nixtamalization to become hominy, which is a very traditional central american cooking method (with a fancy, half-nahuatl name)
Last I checked, they use lime (Calcium hydroxide) not lye (Sodium hydroxide or Pottasium hydroxide) to make nixtamalized corn. The recipes I checked literally say use limewater, the aqueous solution of lime.
@@havokmusicinc *lime aka Ca(OH)2 not lye aka NAOH or KOH
What a thoroughly entertaining trainwreck, told in your inimitable style. I especially liked the Bender quote.
Wow ... Just Wow. That is a lot of truly abhorrent behavior and craziness.
On a more positive note, for those who don't know, grits are one of the best things about Southeastern US food culture. It is a savory porridge very similar to polenta. The main difference is that polenta is made from corn meal while grits are made from ground hominy corn. Hominy corn is corn that has been treated with an alkaline solution to cause the nixtamalization reaction - a tradition going back to pre-columbian times which makes the nutrition more available and changes the flavor profile slightly. At its most basic it is usually served for breakfast with butter, salt, and pepper. It is very good with cheese mixed in and can also serve as a good base for shrimp or grillades (a stewed meat and gravy dish, pronounced gree-ahds).
I have no idea why someone would waste perfectly good grits by wrestling in them. That is most definitely not a normal part of Southern food culture.
Well this was a wild ride
Wouldn't this have all been avoided if WotC had just kept the TSR name in "common use" to protect the copyright ownership by releasing their product as "Dungeons and Dragons by TSR, a Wizards of the Coast Company"? Just keep the company "intact" by making it a division in your company that focuses on a single franchise instead of just making a D&D Division and letting the TSR copyright lapse.
Why would they? Remember, TSR was a fucking dumpster fire when Wizards bought them, and my understanding was that dumping the name was a measure of goodwill towards the hobby. While many companies continue to operate until their original name when bought out, many do not. There is no value in the TSR name, and there is even less now.
@@ScooterinAB No, I don't remember. I got my AD&D books from my dad after my mother made him throw them away. I "rescued" the briefcase of books from the garbage. I never kept up with the drama of the company. I assume many people didn't either. Most people buy the game and play it with friends, and don't bother themselves with what the company does. Company releases book, people buy it, and move on. Only a minority of die-hards would have cared.
@@Dakarn A great many people, especially if they played across multiple editions or saw the unending treadmill of worse and worse content, were aware of what was happening with the company. It was coup after coup and weird design choices affecting products, such that anyone playing for any length of time would have at least been aware of what was going on. But even if you didn't, Wizards did, and the TSR name was cancer. The company was 90s Marvel levels of dead when Wizards came along and bought it up. And when 3rd edition came out, they did a lot to distance themselves from anything TSR had done. Maintaining the name would have been cute, but even just from this video, you should be able to get a picture as to why Wizards chose not to.
You missed another TSR games.
As when when the 2nd TSR guy forgot to renew the TSR name.
Then ernie , luke & another guy started working creating another TSR.
Which was taking to long to come together so then Ernie jumped ship to work with Justin LaNasa.
The real question is how long until the TSR trademark is back up for grabs?
Didn't 't the One Ring stay very long with Sauron and Gollum, reasonably long with Bilbo (over 60 years iirc) and even with Frodo it stayed quite long, like 18 years or so.
Hmm. Sorry, but no. The hobbit Sméagol murdered his friend Déagol for it (2463 TA), and the Ring slowly transformed Sméagol's body into what Bilbo eventually ran into; it wasn't like Gollum had found it the day before, or even the year before, he had possession of it for five hundred years and was hands down, the longest possessor of the One Ring. He usually kept it "safe" and only used it when he tired of fish and frogs and wanted to eat goblin.
@@DTavona I'm a huge Tolkien nerd and that was my point.
Resident hillbilly southerner here. Grits are in fact a porridge made with corn meal rather than wheat meal. It was a staple of poor southern working families in the US for generations and lives on today as a sort of southern soul food.
When D&D newbies ask me, “TSR? What’s that?” I sometimes respond with: “You don’t need to know. You don’t need to understand the sordid history to enjoy the game.”
Beg to differ. The original TSR days were the Golden Age of D&D. 5E isn't worthy of the name.
As a fan of classic Star Frontiers, I am saddened to see their attempt to turn the new book as a platform for hate.
The only way to destroy tsr is to find the phylactery and destroy it. Gonna need a magical weapon to do it too, I think.
Reminds me of the stories of TSR West and how most of my childhood's allowance went up the noses of the execs and their "contracted employees" there.
Hey Gygax swore he never did coke, just amphetamines...
Damn, TSR3 was *jonesing* to get Pinkertonned.
they WERE really asking for it
Hey that sock thing was in confidence!
I'm starting a company. It's going to be called Table Saw Rig.
“He’s never been knighted.”
Maybe he bought some land in Scotland 😂
Oh hey I saw the Polygon article about this yesterday. Great video
Justin LaNasa’s forward text sounds like the backwards speech from Twin Peaks.
To be honest, it seems like the people at the new TSR had sime serious mental issues, the way the blew up on people, the constant defense, the conspiracies and straight up lies all seem like whoever was doing this needs alot of help.
Personally its clear that this company should be taken out, its revenue says it all, however i still f**kin hate WOTC for all their shenanigan bullshit the last 20 years as well. I switched to wanderhome and other 3rd party created stuff. I know they arnt as popular but i cant stand these corporations anymore, they dont even slightly represent the community.
Popularity isn't an indication of quality, lol. And yes, WotC has been on my badside since the mid to late 2000's when it dawned on my what a grift their whole business model was, MtG and D&D both. Glad everyone else is waking up to it as well. I appreciate them for getting me in the hobby, because 3rd ed was my first (1 session of 2e doesn't count imho, lol) but that is as far as it goes. Not bought a single thing from them since the supplement about the weapons that grew with the characters... can't remember the name atm, but that was the last one I picked up, lol
The mental illness called white nationalism.
Nah, this isn't mental issues, it's just some assholes getting in way over their head and then getting put on blast by the internet.
As to WotC... It's a mixed bag. On the one hand, their are times where they do incredibly creative stuff and I honestly feel like 5e is the best the game has ever been with how it keeps classes relatively balanced and provides players a lot of freedom with character development between backgrounds, classes, powers, feats and races. On the other hand, WotC has also been driving up the price of the modules to the point where I can't justify spending money on them (In my native canada modules have gone from around $60 to 90 with apparently another price hike in the works), the relative quality of those modules has largely collapsed (Spelljammer's only redeeming feature was it's monster manual since it's the only thing I can that feels like a completed product) and races have been made actively more bland so as to not offend anyone (I could probably swap the descriptions of half the races in Mord's and they'd be about as meaningful because that's how generic they've been made) and also re-termed as "species (because that is somehow less othering then race).
@@guitarhausdoesntknowwhatac3285 5e balanced? No.
@@guitarhausdoesntknowwhatac3285 i have to disagree, my wife and i have both worked in mental crisis buildings and this dude is like 2 out of 4, which means at that point during rhose posts, he was starting to lose track of reality. If your not well read ok mental illness and crisis, than its best to look at it on a spectrum, they have good periods and bad periods, its not a permenant state of mind. So yes this person was definitely suffering from a mental breakdown and needed help.
I bought Giantlands when it was announced. It's completely unplayable as a TTRPG, because the rules aren't finished in the final product.
About the WotC content statement that shows up on older books on places like DMsGuild: a lot of people seem to think the statement being placed on stuff they like is calling them racist/sexist/whatever for liking it or having written it. However, what the statement actually is is a blanket statement WotC puts on *all* the content they released before a certain date. It also appears on 3e, 3.5e, and early 5e content [at least up to the first season or two of adventurers' league iirc] on DMsGuild as well. If you look at enough older TSR/WotC content, this becomes apparent, as it's on both modules with things some would find genuinely offensive but also on deeply benign dungeon crawls. All it really seems to mean is "this was published before we realized we should be using sensitivity readers, so caveat lector."
Wow. Thanks for a well-researched and presented video. I'm still confused, but less so than I was going in.
What a magnificent lesson in hubris. With the open gaming licence, they might have just foregone the TSR name, created and sold new gaming content, and had a better chance of success. But it seems as though this was more of an exercise in bitterness against the new culture and customer base than it was a genuine tribute to old school D&D.
I love when people with legal backgrounds get a good giggle out of people making completely absurdly bad decisions with legal rammifications, and NuTSR might just have the latest field guide on how to make absurd bad decisions. I'm not sure if they should find that out themselves, though; they might try to print and monetize it, lol.
"With Blackjack and hookers" HAHAHAHAHA that one almost made me choke to death. Love your stuff keep it coming.
Did you ever look into the TTRPG the rest of the Gygax family made last year? It's called "The Tomb of Gyzaengax" or something like that.
I checked and Ernie isn't listed as part of the team. It was his whole family EXCEPT for him
How do you make this so exciting 😍
You really bring the drama!!!
glad you liked it :D
Haven't watched it yet. But guessing: NuTSR is the culprit. Will amend once watched. :P
35 seconds in. I was right!
@@TGBloke yep.. like wtf...
Go Fash Lose Cash
Almost every single indie ttrpg designer is more successful than LaNasa since even if they didn't make as much as $600 in revenue, they most likely avoided running up $380 thousand dollars in legal fees
Ridiculous series of moronic decisions.
I like the Adam Curtis style chapter headings.
Grits are a phenomenal one only finds in the American South, and we'll count states which border Texas as honorary southern states by virtue of them having grits, you up past Tennessee and they have replaced grits with a poor imitation of food called "cream of wheat". Cream of wheat is to avoided at all costs, grits on t'other hand is finely ground cornmeal cooked up like a porridge rather than into pone or hush puppies. Or you could think of it as liquid corn bread but... We figured grits sounds more appetizing than and sentence containing the words "liquid" and "bread".
The photo of the cast from the film "Mazes and Monsters" was deliciously cringe-worthy.
The first time I heard about this was during the Star Frontier controversy and I remember thinking maybe people were being too sensitive. Then I read the leak and I was "Yeah, fuck theses guys."
Great Video, I heard of the drama but had no idea it was such a tangle. I cannot for the life of me place that accent.
A terrific recap of events. Can't wait to see what the next twist and turn in the saga will be.
Coming soon, Song of the South, the RPG
With the "Birth of a Nation" campaign book?
That was coffee spit laughter for me.
With (iron) cross burnings, and modified SS salutes, "Heil Y'all!", and marchers carrying tiki torches singing "Bämä Über Alles"...
LaNasty's typos and strange word choices made his bots and puppet accounts easy to spot.
I'd like to mention the views, opinions of NuTSR do not reflect the views and opinions of most old school gamers (of which I am one). It would seem not quite 150 of Old School Gamers were on board with this line of thought.
Thank you for explaining things plainly, and presenting it in a fun format for us, appreciate you so much, thank you!
Dont drink alcohol, after that roast you will go up in flames.
Given what nuTSR did to Star Frontiers, the game that introduced me to table top RPG'ing, may they Rest In Piss.
Also, Greg Costikyan is greater than ALL those other jabronis. Fite me.
I have never told you I want socks in my jam Discourse, never….
Thank you so much for your channel. You honestly make me so happy every time I see one of your videos! Keep being amazing!
I always assumed that TSR had just been replaced by, or became, Wizards. I had no idea about any of this, or thought I didn't at least. Then I heard the name "Star Frontiers" and just said "Oh no." Then all the other stuff happened and I shook it off, assuming I must have mixed up my space games... until chapter 5. I assumed that WAS the scandal, not that it was the cherry on top of the giant sundae of litigations.
I'm most fascinated by the repeated mentions of "Chad's Revenge" in the enemy list. I can't find anyone by that name involved in all this, but they seemed to be insanely paranoid that their company was full of revenge spies. Always a healthy work environment.
She's back! I didn't know half these things about the iterations of TSR. Educational and sad in roughly equal measure. Good video.
Making WotC look good by being so much worse is sure a an achievement.
As an American southern bumpkin who hates grits, I feel like you're insulting porridge.
How bad can this possibly b--*hears the first few notes of Night On Bald Mountain*
*long, resigned groan* Good lord.
it started by going downhill...then straight off a cliff...then somehow a second cliff
Grits are made from a type of maize called hominy, and are not just any porridge. They are a very big thing in Southern USA and delicious especially flavored with butter, bacon and jalapenos although not all have them spicy,
So, firstly, as someone who has purchased a lot of old D&D products, in their original form, I haven't found a whole lot of issues with them. They're fine, but some of them do show their age just the teeniest bit.
Secondly, wow Ernie, really had to kill your father a second time there.
Absolutely wonderful presentation. I just read quite a bit of this over on E. Morris' site, but yours added texture and humor. Thank you!
It's not hard to work out what's offending Gygax about the statement: WotC is essentially calling his dad a racist.
It feels like religious nuts discussing which superstition is correct.
You look at them and giggle, they think they own something.
I bought D&D 1st edition in the pretty boxes.
That's it, I'm settled, I own D&D and I'll change any rule I want, anytime, even taking it from Wot$ or the new TSR, for free.
Deal with it.
I think a lot more of us are heading that way - play what you like, homebrew what you don't!
A spicy joke 17:27 XD
They're seriously trying on some nationalism, but for corporations? Jesus... corporations already get to be oligarchical autocracies AND individual citizens... now they wanna try being COUNTRIES, too... I'm in Hell.
Grits are dried corn, ground very coarse. It's boiled in water not unlike oatmeal, usually served with salt and butter. It's a common breakfast food in the US South.
Grits are like porridge... but gritty. I dunno... some people like it. My dad liked it.
What an interesting tale of shoddy legal work and stolen valor (I think that's what it is when you give yourself a military title you didn't earn).
Wait, what??? The video said they were funded in June 19 of 2021, ok, then in 12:25 the twit says June 3o of 2021 and whaaat? All of that happened in 11 eleven days? And there are still 10 minutes of the video, wow
it took a single month
@@dungeonsanddiscourse I had just read rumors about the reputation of the new TSR in Reddit and some stuff covered in the video, and I had assumed it was an ongoing topic, not some kind of speed run to run the "company" to the ground.
Thanks for the summary and the commentary as always.