Thank you Dr Takalani Dube for afirming what I was thinking about my first merriage too. Yes One should really look in what I too has contributed for it to happen like it did. This really brings healing to oneself. You are such a beautiful soul Ma'am 💕💕💕Well said about Ntate Zuma.
Good discussion and I'm thankful to have found it, but I feel that the interviewer/ host should allow the guest time to express herself and not overly interject.
Not only infidelity. If one is not a believer and desires to go, you can let them go. You do not have to insist that they remain in the marriage, though we are encouraged to try and win them over by our behavior.
Avoid immortality and con 1. Accountability to the Lord and spouse. 2.Have a specific person to be accountable to. 3. Spiritual advisor, mentor or coach. Marriage 💑 is a state of intention.
I think it's understandable what the sister is saying about learning thru the pain.. But what then when you've got your lesson, doesn't the bible tell us that if you are divorced remain alone so that when he/she leans his/her lesson and heals,then he/she is able to reconcile coz true Christianity is all about forgiveness and tolerance... This is more so if the couple involved are ministers of the gospel, they are leaders...... Where does this remarying comes from guys coz it's unscriptural unless a spouse is dead... And lastly once a person is married,they can't be singles again atleast biblically....it is only widow wood that the bible talks about, and only in that case can be remarrying... I'm deeply hurt by this twisting of scriptures... Guys I don't know,I hope I've been respectful enough (1Corinthians 7:10-11, Matthew 5:32)
Hi I love the spirit with which you write - not disrespectful at all. Now the Bible teaches that in the case of infidelity in marriage a child of God is allowed to divorce . "And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for [b]sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery.” Matthew 19:9. This was what happened in her case here. Her first husband was committing adultery. In such a case the Bible teaches in the words of our Lord Jesus that she can divorce. And divorce means a dissolution of the marriage so she is allowed to remarry.
In my last comment about the interview with Bishop Dube, I'd highlighted my wish for a private chat with him... As leaders when I don't know what we are really saying to the led,even when we are opening up and saying we've done mistakes and learned, but we are still in it and and enjoying it.. Are we not indirectly/directly saying to the congregation guys you can also do it and remarry like us, it's good this side.... Colossians 3:10-17.. (Pardon me if I sound rude,I'm concerned about the church)
@@israelldlamini8948 I agree with you that we can't say we have repented of a sin if we continue in it. But how is Dr. Taki here continuing in sin? Her husband went into adultery, she in line with scriptures divorced him. And then remarried. That doesn't mean she can't learn lessons from the experience and even see where she could have done better. I like the manner with which you communicate your views - its very respectful that is why I am taking the time to engage with you. So please let me know how you feel she has not walked in the scriptures? I want to understand you.
@@ChibiArchivesProduction Thanks, but I think I disagree with that also sir coz if you reach from the king James version which we all know (me and you) it's the original, you will see it doesn't say adultery but fornication...... Matthew 5:31,32, Matthew 19:9 Let's look at it this way again, three crucial things said by Jesus.... 1.Matthew 19:4-6,8.....Here our Lord Jesus pointed the Pharisees to the beginning,"haven't you read that He Who made them from the beginning made them male and female"....... again here the beginning is the origin, meaning originally He Who made THEM at the beginning made HIM male and female.... Genesis 1:27..... And for me making HIM male and female at that beginning was so that they are inseparable, impossible to be separated by anything.. 2. Matthew 19:7-8.....we can clearly see here that it was brother Moses who started to agree on the divorce problem under the pressure of the people because of the hardness of their hearts, and I hope we can all recall that because of the same problem, the hardness of their hearts they missed out on entering the rest promised by God.... Hebrews 3:6-16. 3. Again coming to that Matthew 19:9.....Let us look at the version of brother Mark..... Mark 10:1-12....As we saw that the problem of divorce first came as a result of the hardness of the hearts of the Israelites who consiquently missed their promised Rest alright. And secondly in the new testament, the same problem or debate was brought by the Pharisees who also missed the promised Messiah... Hence Luke 16:16-18..... and then our Lord followed this great instructions with a CERTAIN (REAL) story verse 19-25,26-31.. And lastly for me the question is that if it's the case of adultery is a reason for divorce as most of you my brothers and sisters are saying.... How did our Lord Jesus resolved that matter of adultery....John 8:1-11,12 Again as New Testament believes,christians where we love as we are loved by God and forgive as we are forgiven by God, there can never be any room for divorce even in the case of adultery..... IJohn 4:16-19 1Corinthians13:4-8 John 15:12 Colossians 3:13 Mark 11:25 *Luke 17:1-5, Matthew 18:21-22, *Matthew 18:23-27,28-35 *How often do we also commit spiritual adultery and ask for forgiveness from our father, and He does forgive us because we not perfect.......(James 4:4-5, Matthew 18:23-27,28-35) May the Lord help us to lay down our own desires and will for His own desire and will for us....(Matthew 26:39,41,1Peter 2:19-25) All scriptures from the KING JAMES AND AMPLIFIED version... Grace Grace
God hates some marriages even more than he hates divorce. Some of you are in some marriages Full of bitterness because of the pain you’re going through. You cannot even serve God or pray effectively. You weep almost every night, andyet you are still in that marriage. We always say those who God has joined together, let no man put asunder. But the question is, is it every marriage that God has put together? Some marriages are of the devil, to blast you into hell, but yet some will still say,stay in it. Read your Bible well, you will see how God was only pleased when the over 100 men of Israel made a decision to divorce their wives and sent them away with their children. Work out your salvation in fear and trembling forgot sees the intent of every heart, and he will judge accordingly. He is the true judge.
Johnny it is not wise to add man’s wisdom to God’s word. The Bible does not teach any where that God hates some marriages more than he hates divorce. Neither does it teach that we should abandon our marriage if we are miserable in it. That is the spirit of this age - lovers of self. There are many who are serving God faithfully even in miserable marriages that are like prison. And their devotion to God is like sweet incense to God just like when Paul and others continued to serve God even in jail.
@@ChibiArchivesProduction I did not say it is written in the Bible, read Ezra chapter 10 then you will see how God hated the marriages in that chapter that he was pleased for them to divorce their wives. I may not need to say taking drugs is a sin because it is not written in the Bible, but you know it is a sin because it destroys the human body. So I am not applying human wisdom over the word of God.
Mr Host stop passing wrong information. The Bible does not give and has not given any ground for divorce. If you are using Matt 5:32, Matt 19:9 as your ground for divorce then you are mistaken. The exception given in the above scriptures is “fornication” KJV and not “adultery” and we know fornication is a sexual act between two unmarried people. Again apart from Mathew’s gospel no other authority in the Bible gives any such exceptions meaning Mathew’s gospel only explains or indicates that you can’t live in immorality and claim to be married. If your union with your partner only amount to immorality then you can go your separate ways until the right thing is done. Continuous stay in immorality without repentance is a sin before God. Please do not mislead your audience. There is no ground for divorce. Every trespass can be forgiven including adultery and the marriage union can continue to the glory of God.
The strength of a Christian lies in the obedience of God ! needed this
Thank you Dr Takalani Dube for afirming what I was thinking about my first merriage too. Yes
One should really look in what I too has contributed for it to happen like it did. This really brings healing to oneself. You are such a beautiful soul Ma'am 💕💕💕Well said about Ntate Zuma.
Does our creator allow remarry?
I love the way this lady’s introspection with the help of the Holy Spirit was so honest,
"The strength of a Christian is their obedience to God" Amen!!!
Thank you for sharing such realness.
Good discussion and I'm thankful to have found it, but I feel that the interviewer/ host should allow the guest time to express herself and not overly interject.
Very true
So true. He hurries them...
True hey
Very true
Wisdom!! May God keep you and bless you
Wonderful testimony mom Dube
I just so love this interview 💖💖. Raw Truth
So much wisdom shared here. Thank you so much to you Ps Chim and Dr Taki. GOD bless you!
So inspiring! Thank you
Wonderful and illuminating interview.
So powerful leaning something very inspiring
Not only infidelity. If one is not a believer and desires to go, you can let them go. You do not have to insist that they remain in the marriage, though we are encouraged to try and win them over by our behavior.
When I learn to trust God, He will trust me.
Avoid immortality and con
1. Accountability to the Lord and spouse.
2.Have a specific person to be accountable to.
3. Spiritual advisor, mentor or coach.
Marriage 💑 is a state of intention.
I like the candidness of this lady you interviewed
can you remarry after divorce Luke 16:18
It is SIN to remarry a new person after divorce. The only person one can go back to is the one you have divorced.
Yes u must be international
Let me be completely single
Thanks.
It is written.
Remember MATTHEW 4.
Can women be pastors according to the Bible?? This divorce thing amongst Christians is tricky..
Is marriage for everyone? Who am I to say but I do believe some pple should spare others misery since they lack basic moral discipline.
Marriage is not for everyone so church should develop mechanisms to sort the people out and position each to their respective stations of life.
I think it's understandable what the sister is saying about learning thru the pain..
But what then when you've got your lesson, doesn't the bible tell us that if you are divorced remain alone so that when he/she leans his/her lesson and heals,then he/she is able to reconcile coz true Christianity is all about forgiveness and tolerance...
This is more so if the couple involved are ministers of the gospel, they are leaders......
Where does this remarying comes from guys coz it's unscriptural unless a spouse is dead...
And lastly once a person is married,they can't be singles again atleast biblically....it is only widow wood that the bible talks about, and only in that case can be remarrying...
I'm deeply hurt by this twisting of scriptures...
Guys I don't know,I hope I've been respectful enough (1Corinthians 7:10-11, Matthew 5:32)
Hi I love the spirit with which you write - not disrespectful at all. Now the Bible teaches that in the case of infidelity in marriage a child of God is allowed to divorce . "And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for [b]sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery.” Matthew 19:9. This was what happened in her case here. Her first husband was committing adultery. In such a case the Bible teaches in the words of our Lord Jesus that she can divorce. And divorce means a dissolution of the marriage so she is allowed to remarry.
In my last comment about the interview with Bishop Dube, I'd highlighted my wish for a private chat with him...
As leaders when I don't know what we are really saying to the led,even when we are opening up and saying we've done mistakes and learned, but we are still in it and and enjoying it..
Are we not indirectly/directly saying to the congregation guys you can also do it and remarry like us, it's good this side.... Colossians 3:10-17..
(Pardon me if I sound rude,I'm concerned about the church)
Please watch my video where this is treated in detail ua-cam.com/video/2yGxsL12cBA/v-deo.html
@@israelldlamini8948 I agree with you that we can't say we have repented of a sin if we continue in it. But how is Dr. Taki here continuing in sin? Her husband went into adultery, she in line with scriptures divorced him. And then remarried. That doesn't mean she can't learn lessons from the experience and even see where she could have done better. I like the manner with which you communicate your views - its very respectful that is why I am taking the time to engage with you. So please let me know how you feel she has not walked in the scriptures? I want to understand you.
@@ChibiArchivesProduction
Thanks, but I think I disagree with that also sir coz if you reach from the king James version which we all know (me and you) it's the original, you will see it doesn't say adultery but fornication...... Matthew 5:31,32, Matthew 19:9
Let's look at it this way again, three crucial things said by Jesus....
1.Matthew 19:4-6,8.....Here our Lord Jesus pointed the Pharisees to the beginning,"haven't you read that He Who made them from the beginning made them male and female"....... again here the beginning is the origin, meaning originally He Who made THEM at the beginning made HIM male and female.... Genesis 1:27..... And for me making HIM male and female at that beginning was so that they are inseparable, impossible to be separated by anything..
2. Matthew 19:7-8.....we can clearly see here that it was brother Moses who started to agree on the divorce problem under the pressure of the people because of the hardness of their hearts, and I hope we can all recall that because of the same problem, the hardness of their hearts they missed out on entering the rest promised by God.... Hebrews 3:6-16.
3. Again coming to that Matthew 19:9.....Let us look at the version of brother Mark..... Mark 10:1-12....As we saw that the problem of divorce first came as a result of the hardness of the hearts of the Israelites who consiquently missed their promised Rest alright.
And secondly in the new testament, the same problem or debate was brought by the Pharisees who also missed the promised Messiah...
Hence Luke 16:16-18..... and then our Lord followed this great instructions with a CERTAIN (REAL) story verse 19-25,26-31..
And lastly for me the question is that if it's the case of adultery is a reason for divorce as most of you my brothers and sisters are saying....
How did our Lord Jesus resolved that matter of adultery....John 8:1-11,12
Again as New Testament believes,christians where we love as we are loved by God and forgive as we are forgiven by God, there can never be any room for divorce even in the case of adultery.....
IJohn 4:16-19
1Corinthians13:4-8
John 15:12
Colossians 3:13
Mark 11:25
*Luke 17:1-5, Matthew 18:21-22,
*Matthew 18:23-27,28-35
*How often do we also commit spiritual adultery and ask for forgiveness from our father, and He does forgive us because we not perfect.......(James 4:4-5, Matthew 18:23-27,28-35)
May the Lord help us to lay down our own desires and will for His own desire and will for us....(Matthew 26:39,41,1Peter 2:19-25)
All scriptures from the KING JAMES AND AMPLIFIED version...
Grace Grace
That make am much sence
God hates some marriages even more than he hates divorce. Some of you are in some marriages Full of bitterness because of the pain you’re going through. You cannot even serve God or pray effectively. You weep almost every night, andyet you are still in that marriage. We always say those who God has joined together, let no man put asunder. But the question is, is it every marriage that God has put together? Some marriages are of the devil, to blast you into hell, but yet some will still say,stay in it. Read your Bible well, you will see how God was only pleased when the over 100 men of Israel made a decision to divorce their wives and sent them away with their children. Work out your salvation in fear and trembling forgot sees the intent of every heart, and he will judge accordingly. He is the true judge.
Johnny it is not wise to add man’s wisdom to God’s word. The Bible does not teach any where that God hates some marriages more than he hates divorce. Neither does it teach that we should abandon our marriage if we are miserable in it. That is the spirit of this age - lovers of self. There are many who are serving God faithfully even in miserable marriages that are like prison. And their devotion to God is like sweet incense to God just like when Paul and others continued to serve God even in jail.
@@ChibiArchivesProduction I did not say it is written in the Bible, read Ezra chapter 10 then you will see how God hated the marriages in that chapter that he was pleased for them to divorce their wives. I may not need to say taking drugs is a sin because it is not written in the Bible, but you know it is a sin because it destroys the human body. So I am not applying human wisdom over the word of God.
Mr Host stop passing wrong information. The Bible does not give and has not given any ground for divorce. If you are using Matt 5:32, Matt 19:9 as your ground for divorce then you are mistaken. The exception given in the above scriptures is “fornication” KJV and not “adultery” and we know fornication is a sexual act between two unmarried people.
Again apart from Mathew’s gospel no other authority in the Bible gives any such exceptions meaning Mathew’s gospel only explains or indicates that you can’t live in immorality and claim to be married. If your union with your partner only amount to immorality then you can go your separate ways until the right thing is done. Continuous stay in immorality without repentance is a sin before God. Please do not mislead your audience. There is no ground for divorce. Every trespass can be forgiven including adultery and the marriage union can continue to the glory of God.
Amen
You Are No Longer Bound.
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