Yes sir, for once we can talk about it as I was not in my right mind on the day that we filmed this! I gather that you are also a fan of dark green with a beige leather interior.
Superb stuff. Had the same car but in light blue albeit the 2.5 V6 . I adored the thing but was only ever using at weekends. End up selling it to an MGR dealer in High Wycombe with 17k miles on it . Another one I ended up regretting selling. Keep up the brilliant work sir
We aim to please, sir! Yes, I know the light blue that you mean, a popular pre-facelift colour. I think yours would be worth a fair amount of money too. Hindsight is a funny thing, isn't it?
Always happy to see a Rover 75 reviewed whatever the engine type. This one also has the earlier bullet cap wing mirrors & the chrome door handle defenders which stand out on darker coloured models. The contemporary interior is similar to the MG ZT I think the black door card cloth inserts are the same. The MG ZT’s work well in pre and post facelift but I do think the Rover 75 looks best as a Mk1, nonetheless this is such a nice example it’s a credit to its owner with the early wood dash being a particularly nice offset to the black interior.
Yes, lots of bits restored from subsequent Project Drive deletions. My understanding is just as you say concerning the difference between a 75 Contemporary and a late ZT. The pre-facelift 75s do seem to be better regarded than the post-facelift ones.
Good review, I can't disagree with anything you've said. I'm now on my 3rd 75 diesel, a Contemporary SE Diesel Automatic. Its had a 160bhp remap and its well worth it for the torque. Mine has a few more options than this one for some reason, cruise, Smart Nav, traction control, powerfold mirrors. Other things to watch out for are crank pulleys falling to bits ,sticking starters, stuck open thermostats and in a few cases, failed HP diesel pumps. An incredibly robust engine nonetheless. I'm glad you (reluctantly!) enjoyed it!
Glad you enjoyed the video, we don't normally cover these engines on the channel, but as Ian Seabrook used to have one, I did have requests to get round the rules somehow. The option list for a 75 was very long, so perhaps someone splashed out a lot more on your car when it was new!
Really nice car the 75, shame they weren’t the sales success they should have been, I have noticed that prices for most 75’s are slowly rising, they had slipped to the £595 sort of price range but a lot now are more than double that. The early ones from around 2000-2001 would be one I would go for as I think they were built to a higher standard then. Great review Mr Lloyd.👍
Yes sir, the decent examples are starting to rise in price now. They didn't sell too badly, but it wasn't quite enough, sadly. Glad you enjoyed the video!
Mine is a pre-facelift 52 plate. It has the pixelated display (not cheap to fix) and I have the same problem with the handbrake, fading headlights and a fuel heating module in the engine bay which has a mind of it's own and the dodgy fuel gauge which is a common fault. Lovely to drive though and a complete mile muncher. I am thinking of getting a remap.
Ah, the pixelated display, the handbrake, the dodgy fuel gauge and numerous other issues! Such is the way with these cars, but it doesn't stop us loving them, does it? The remap you mention is an extremely common upgrade from what I understand.
I was speaking with someone within the River 75 community recently and apparently it's pretty common fir owners to retrofit the eaelier wood dash to later cars. I once drove a pre facelift 75 with forbidden fuel engine. The 75s character is best described as most agreeable. Not especially dynamic or exciting but a very pleasant environment to be in. I think the 75 us one of those understated Cara that one day I'll regret having not owned but I know I'd not want to settle for anything other than an early KV6 Connoisseur.
Yes sir, we like the KV6s, and the earlier cars are seen as more desirable... I am not surprised that the earlier trim tends to end up in the later cars, it makes the character of them even more agreeable!
Great choice! The 75 and all its variants was actually quite a popular and highly regarded car in New Zealand and Australia up until Rover closed. Did not even know about the Diesel model!
Lovely sir. I do rather like the 75. It was so different to everything else when it launched - yes the Jag S Type had a similar profile but lacked Rover's detail - and it still looks classy today. I hadn't quite appreciated all the other little oval details, matching the dials in the instrument binnacle, such as the heater vents in the rear and internal door handles but they are a delight. Never driven one but I would like to. Being a passenger in one was certainly a very comfy experience
Glad you enjoyed the review, sir! Yes, the designers put an awful lot of effort into producing something very distinctive, and they are comfortable to be driven in as long as you aren't too tall.
We don't talk about Diesels on this channel, we just drive them! ...Mr Lloyd you did make me chuckle. Great video as always, hope you're on the mend and driving non forbidden fuel cars again soon
We only occasionally have this issue on the channel, sir! I don't know what came over me... Fortunately, I did come back to my right mind after this episode was filmed.
Another nice review Mr Lloyd, I have the same aversion to the forbidden fuel, never owned one, never will, but if I have to use one I always preferred an auto, as it seems to me that it smooths out the drive, so the no boost, to all the boost, you get from diesel is less noticeable!
Good review, I have always wanted to try one as I’ve heard so much about them, although I prefer the early cars and, budget permitting, or a pre facelift V8 model would be my choice but they are so rare, even more so than the MG ZT260...
Courteous to a fault towards a Learner Driver, sadly a dying tradition on our congested road system. Excellent car born into a very unfortunate time in its maker's existence. Coincidentally, the Rover 75 and the E46 BMW 3 Series, recently reviewed by your good self, are, arguably, the best looking and most comfortable two cars produced by the MG/Rover/BMW partnership at the time. My Ex MG Rover and now BMW Mechanic assures me that this particular 2.0 litre engine is at its absolute best in its MG Rover application.
We had better be careful speaking about the engine in this one, sir, but I wasn't in my right mind when I was filming this, as you well know. We certainly did try to be courteous to the learner driver, as we normally are when driving such finely appointed luxury cars.
Ha I recall the A60 Cambridge diesel, 0-60 in about 5 days, but they were doing just what a diesel's purpose in life was in a car, doing 1000s of reliable miles of mainly short journeys, good fuel economy against petrol, climbing hills a breeze and servicing just consisted of an oil/filter change.... IE a taxi, but then I think BL invented the modern diesel (was it in the Montego?) performance on par with a petrol with good fuel economy. (so the fuel companies put up the diesel fuel cost)...but these modern diesels had a price to pay in that they were now under so much stress with so many bits and bobs added that they were now just as reliable or unreliable as a petrol with the extra money pit bonus of a DMF clutch. So I agree with what you imply in the remit of your channel "what is the point of having a diesel car"
Oh, the B Series forbidden fuel engine, sir... Not the best, but incredibly popular in the Hindustan Ambassador, and to a lesser extent in A60 Cambridge and Marina/Ital. The Perkins Prima unit was based loosely on the B Series, but very distantly. We don't need to talk about any of these any more!
Mr Lloyd, Sir, this is an outrage! Your controversial review of this gents luxury vehicle, fitted with a rough old German oil burner, has left me feeling decidedly un-British. I am willing to forgive you, Sir, as thankfully you didn't end your review with a "Ptchoooo"!
Well, I wasn't in my right mind, sadly! These moments of madness only happen very occasionally.... We do like luxury vehicles on this channel, don't we?
I hope Mr Seabrook hasn't been hypnotising you again! An enjoyable hubnut Rip off Joseph even with a forbidden fuel version, glad you woke up at the end. Still not overly keen on the facelift 75s although I think the ZT was more successful as you said. Is it the case when buying one that the earlier ones are better, around 99/00.
I have indeed now woken up, sir, having been thoroughly influenced by Mr Seabrook on the day that this was filmed. Yes, the earlier cars tend to be the most desirable ones these days, it would seem.
I wonder if rover never went in to liquidation what the ALL NEW 75 in the uk would of looked like in 2006?! Oh and I'm glad the forbidden fuelery was put on hold (hope there is more of that to come)!!
Well sir, it was only a temporary blip, I am now back in my right mind, so no more forbidden fuel cars! The final 75 facelift really ended up as the later versions of the Roewe 750.
Oh sir, I hope that doesn't mean that the 45 had a forbidden fuel engine? Actually, I can't really talk as this was Accidental HubNut Rip-Off Edition...
@@thatguyfromcetialphaV , been driving my 45 V6 today, and I can attest that they still make a lovely noise. They made just 700 of them, of which only around 70 remain, so they are very rare now.
Well, I enjoyed it tremendously and have made several other episodes of No Budget Reviews: Accidental HubNut Rip-Off Edition before or since. Ian Seabrook is a true inspiration to many and I never would have got started on UA-cam without him, but sometimes I don't understand the choices he makes. If you don't want to watch these videos, you don't have to. I have over 100 episodes of No Budget Reviews, and only a few of them are Accidental HubNut Rip-Off Edition.
Excellent review Sir, glad I made the move for a 75, a real comfy car with a beige leather interior and British Racing Green in Connoisseur SE Spec.
Yes sir, for once we can talk about it as I was not in my right mind on the day that we filmed this! I gather that you are also a fan of dark green with a beige leather interior.
Superb stuff. Had the same car but in light blue albeit the 2.5 V6 .
I adored the thing but was only ever using at weekends. End up selling it to an MGR dealer in High Wycombe with 17k miles on it .
Another one I ended up regretting selling.
Keep up the brilliant work sir
We aim to please, sir! Yes, I know the light blue that you mean, a popular pre-facelift colour. I think yours would be worth a fair amount of money too. Hindsight is a funny thing, isn't it?
Always happy to see a Rover 75 reviewed whatever the engine type. This one also has the earlier bullet cap wing mirrors & the chrome door handle defenders which stand out on darker coloured models. The contemporary interior is similar to the MG ZT I think the black door card cloth inserts are the same. The MG ZT’s work well in pre and post facelift but I do think the Rover 75 looks best as a Mk1, nonetheless this is such a nice example it’s a credit to its owner with the early wood dash being a particularly nice offset to the black interior.
Yes, lots of bits restored from subsequent Project Drive deletions. My understanding is just as you say concerning the difference between a 75 Contemporary and a late ZT. The pre-facelift 75s do seem to be better regarded than the post-facelift ones.
Good review, I can't disagree with anything you've said. I'm now on my 3rd 75 diesel, a Contemporary SE Diesel Automatic. Its had a 160bhp remap and its well worth it for the torque. Mine has a few more options than this one for some reason, cruise, Smart Nav, traction control, powerfold mirrors. Other things to watch out for are crank pulleys falling to bits ,sticking starters, stuck open thermostats and in a few cases, failed HP diesel pumps. An incredibly robust engine nonetheless. I'm glad you (reluctantly!) enjoyed it!
Glad you enjoyed the video, we don't normally cover these engines on the channel, but as Ian Seabrook used to have one, I did have requests to get round the rules somehow. The option list for a 75 was very long, so perhaps someone splashed out a lot more on your car when it was new!
Really nice car the 75, shame they weren’t the sales success they should have been,
I have noticed that prices for most 75’s are slowly rising, they had slipped to the £595 sort of price range but a lot now are more than double that.
The early ones from around 2000-2001 would be one I would go for as I think they were built to a higher standard then.
Great review Mr Lloyd.👍
Yes sir, the decent examples are starting to rise in price now. They didn't sell too badly, but it wasn't quite enough, sadly. Glad you enjoyed the video!
@@lloydvehicleconsulting KGF Classics in Peterborough have an immaculate V6 example with just 8000 miles on the clock for a keen £6995 😳
@@willswheels283 , we all need to make a living somehow, sir!
@@lloydvehicleconsulting We Do sir indeed, I am thinking from a buyer’s view of course, good luck to him I say.
@@willswheels283 , you are correct, sir!
Mine is a pre-facelift 52 plate. It has the pixelated display (not cheap to fix) and I have the same problem with the handbrake, fading headlights and a fuel heating module in the engine bay which has a mind of it's own and the dodgy fuel gauge which is a common fault. Lovely to drive though and a complete mile muncher. I am thinking of getting a remap.
Ah, the pixelated display, the handbrake, the dodgy fuel gauge and numerous other issues! Such is the way with these cars, but it doesn't stop us loving them, does it? The remap you mention is an extremely common upgrade from what I understand.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Yes the remap brings the engine back in line with the BMW it came from and some more.
@@CortinasAndClassics , just as well it is not the notorious N47 engine, the M47s were better.
I was speaking with someone within the River 75 community recently and apparently it's pretty common fir owners to retrofit the eaelier wood dash to later cars.
I once drove a pre facelift 75 with forbidden fuel engine. The 75s character is best described as most agreeable. Not especially dynamic or exciting but a very pleasant environment to be in.
I think the 75 us one of those understated Cara that one day I'll regret having not owned but I know I'd not want to settle for anything other than an early KV6 Connoisseur.
Yes sir, we like the KV6s, and the earlier cars are seen as more desirable... I am not surprised that the earlier trim tends to end up in the later cars, it makes the character of them even more agreeable!
Great choice! The 75 and all its variants was actually quite a popular and highly regarded car in New Zealand and Australia up until Rover closed. Did not even know about the Diesel model!
Well sir, you learn something new every day! We cover these things so that you don't have to.
Lovely sir. I do rather like the 75. It was so different to everything else when it launched - yes the Jag S Type had a similar profile but lacked Rover's detail - and it still looks classy today. I hadn't quite appreciated all the other little oval details, matching the dials in the instrument binnacle, such as the heater vents in the rear and internal door handles but they are a delight. Never driven one but I would like to. Being a passenger in one was certainly a very comfy experience
Glad you enjoyed the review, sir! Yes, the designers put an awful lot of effort into producing something very distinctive, and they are comfortable to be driven in as long as you aren't too tall.
We don't talk about Diesels on this channel, we just drive them! ...Mr Lloyd you did make me chuckle.
Great video as always, hope you're on the mend and driving non forbidden fuel cars again soon
We only occasionally have this issue on the channel, sir! I don't know what came over me... Fortunately, I did come back to my right mind after this episode was filmed.
Another nice review Mr Lloyd, I have the same aversion to the forbidden fuel, never owned one, never will, but if I have to use one I always preferred an auto, as it seems to me that it smooths out the drive, so the no boost, to all the boost, you get from diesel is less noticeable!
Yes sir, keeping away from the forbidden fuel if possible is not a good idea... We will be returning to normal service tomorrow!
Good review, I have always wanted to try one as I’ve heard so much about them, although I prefer the early cars and, budget permitting, or a pre facelift V8 model would be my choice but they are so rare, even more so than the MG ZT260...
Ah yes, sir! The supply of decent 75s is starting to dwindle now, they do have a few problems... Pre-facelift V8s are extremely rare and valuable now.
Courteous to a fault towards a Learner Driver, sadly a dying tradition on our congested road system.
Excellent car born into a very unfortunate time in its maker's existence.
Coincidentally, the Rover 75 and the E46 BMW 3 Series, recently reviewed by your good self, are, arguably, the best looking and most comfortable two cars produced by the MG/Rover/BMW partnership at the time.
My Ex MG Rover and now BMW Mechanic assures me that this particular 2.0 litre engine is at its absolute best in its MG Rover application.
We had better be careful speaking about the engine in this one, sir, but I wasn't in my right mind when I was filming this, as you well know.
We certainly did try to be courteous to the learner driver, as we normally are when driving such finely appointed luxury cars.
Excellent review. You can fit two cup holders but they tend to hurt driver's knee 😁
That's very interesting, thank you ever so much indeed for watching!
Lovely cars, owned 2. a Connoisseur SE 1.8 manual & a 2.5 V6 Connoisseur SE Auto. Would have one again if i could find a nice one to buy.
Well, we had a 75 Connoisseur V6 on the channel earlier this month, actually! That was a lot of fun. Tested a lot of 75s and ZTs now.
Ha I recall the A60 Cambridge diesel, 0-60 in about 5 days, but they were doing just what a diesel's purpose in life was in a car, doing 1000s of reliable miles of mainly short journeys, good fuel economy against petrol, climbing hills a breeze and servicing just consisted of an oil/filter change.... IE a taxi, but then I think BL invented the modern diesel (was it in the Montego?) performance on par with a petrol with good fuel economy. (so the fuel companies put up the diesel fuel cost)...but these modern diesels had a price to pay in that they were now under so much stress with so many bits and bobs added that they were now just as reliable or unreliable as a petrol with the extra money pit bonus of a DMF clutch. So I agree with what you imply in the remit of your channel "what is the point of having a diesel car"
Oh, the B Series forbidden fuel engine, sir... Not the best, but incredibly popular in the Hindustan Ambassador, and to a lesser extent in A60 Cambridge and Marina/Ital. The Perkins Prima unit was based loosely on the B Series, but very distantly. We don't need to talk about any of these any more!
Mr Lloyd, Sir, this is an outrage! Your controversial review of this gents luxury vehicle, fitted with a rough old German oil burner, has left me feeling decidedly un-British. I am willing to forgive you, Sir, as thankfully you didn't end your review with a "Ptchoooo"!
Well, I wasn't in my right mind, sadly! These moments of madness only happen very occasionally.... We do like luxury vehicles on this channel, don't we?
PS did you warn that Learner driver about his Peugeot? 😂
Didn't get a chance, sir...
I hope Mr Seabrook hasn't been hypnotising you again! An enjoyable hubnut Rip off Joseph even with a forbidden fuel version, glad you woke up at the end. Still not overly keen on the facelift 75s although I think the ZT was more successful as you said. Is it the case when buying one that the earlier ones are better, around 99/00.
I have indeed now woken up, sir, having been thoroughly influenced by Mr Seabrook on the day that this was filmed. Yes, the earlier cars tend to be the most desirable ones these days, it would seem.
Excellent review sir, that car is beautiful, and is in immaculate condition, credit to the owner. Your a gent behind the wheel sir.
We aim to please, sir! Mr Roles certainly has been looking after this little Rover. We did practise some typical Rover 75 Owner driving too...
Overall,I think that this is one good looking car, particularly with that paint colour.I also like the updated trim. on the dash etc.
Glad you like the video, sir! The colour is rather nice, isn't it?
I wonder if rover never went in to liquidation what the ALL NEW 75 in the uk would of looked like in 2006?! Oh and I'm glad the forbidden fuelery was put on hold (hope there is more of that to come)!!
Well sir, it was only a temporary blip, I am now back in my right mind, so no more forbidden fuel cars! The final 75 facelift really ended up as the later versions of the Roewe 750.
I always fancied a go on one of these. After the Omega blew it's head gasket, I got a 45 with a 2.0. It was nice. Traded it in for a Zetec Focus.
Oh sir, I hope that doesn't mean that the 45 had a forbidden fuel engine? Actually, I can't really talk as this was Accidental HubNut Rip-Off Edition...
@@lloydvehicleconsulting No it was a 2.0 petrol. I'm thinking it was quite a rare beast.
@@thatguyfromcetialphaV , that would be a 45 V6, sir. We know those very well on this channel!
@@lloydvehicleconsulting It did make a nice noise. Ford gave me 1200 quid trade in, which I remember thinking was a lot in 2010 for a 2001 car.
@@thatguyfromcetialphaV , been driving my 45 V6 today, and I can attest that they still make a lovely noise. They made just 700 of them, of which only around 70 remain, so they are very rare now.
It’s had a good thrashing with the ugly stick compared to the early ones
The facelift in 2004 was probably more successful with the MG ZT than the Rover 75.
Interesting motors, never experienced one, as yet - thank you Joseph
We aim to please, sir! Good old MG Rover/BMW engineering...
An automatic diesel just seems wrong though, Mister Seabrook.
It's OK if you just want to push on with your journey....
Very interesting content as always I’ve always liked these cars, especially the 2.5 v6 excellent experience.
Yes, we may have a 2.5 KV6 version coming up on the channel soon.
Mr Roles has excellent taste in cars!
Mr Roles now has excellent taste in cars, sir, the first one he owned was a bit questionable, however....
My, my, my Mr. Lloyd! You're in a diesel!! ;)
My name is Ian Seabrook. At least I thought it was when we recorded the video....
I wonder if one can buy a Roewe model in the UK. A better engine is a better engine.
I have never seen one, sadly... Yes, the later K-Series variants did tend to be a bit more reliable.
Great spec MR Lloyd
In what sense, sir?
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The the edition of real wood trim
Yes, the previous owner put real wood trim back into this one, where it wouldn't have originally been there.
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I prefer the pre-facelift personally looks more substantial and less plasticy.
You are probably in the majority there when it comes to the 75!
it's deep enough, but it's a bit shallow.... help me out!
That's pretty much a summary of what it is. You could describe it either way.
Just be yourself don’t compare yourself to hub nut
Well, I enjoyed it tremendously and have made several other episodes of No Budget Reviews: Accidental HubNut Rip-Off Edition before or since. Ian Seabrook is a true inspiration to many and I never would have got started on UA-cam without him, but sometimes I don't understand the choices he makes. If you don't want to watch these videos, you don't have to. I have over 100 episodes of No Budget Reviews, and only a few of them are Accidental HubNut Rip-Off Edition.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting I really enjoy your content this was not meant as a criticism
@@graemetaylor629 , thank you, but I am afraid that No Budget Reviews: Accidental HubNut Rip-Off Edition may return at some point soon...
Nice car
Glad you enjoyed the video!