The Jack Harlow push was crazy. He received a sneaker deal, was on every magazine cover, was on every talk show, did SNL, tried to sing, and in return he dropped a MID album in between Future and Kendrick Lamar.
idk if it's exactly the industry but his team might've pushed him too high for his actual current artistic status. they got him up everywhere, good features, but the standalone artistic value isn't matching up
@@spacevadr10 i can tell Harlow is at a bit of a writer’s block. He’s been at it for 10 years. He just caught on 2 years ago. With 4 charting songs. I say give him some time to come in swinging again yk?
He's smart and has a very likeable personality. He plays it safe. He makes the most basic/not great/not terrible rap music out there and it seems to be working good for him.
Problem is that he blew his load out the gate and laughably saved drake for his victory lap? LOL OKAY. Can't wait until kids talk about drake and how corny he is the same way kids are clowning other legends of the past. Drake is a curse for everyone.
Yeah that's the thing, I mean for sure he is being hyped to hell by rappers and also fans, so I see the perspective that he failed to live up to those expectations. At the same time it's like he's just a dude. So he didn't make 200k, he still sold damn near more albums than a LOT of artists opening week. And there are tons of artists like him just going with the flow, not much regard for creativity. I could also see the criticism if he was talking shit about how much he was going to sell, but I really don't think so. Opinions like this seem redundant, for people like him, but it was good vid, no hate to HHM
I see the Jack Harlow push the same way I saw the Macklemore push back in 2012-14. He did SNL, multiple magazine covers, was a XXL Freshman, and had major accolades with awards and the charts. The difference between Macklemore and Harlow, however, is that people still find him as a good artist who has potential and was able to keep their head up after hitting a slump with their fans. I think Jack Harlow’s gonna grow with his fans instead of his fans outgrowing him, but only time will tell.
his fans? like dudes that pretend to like him to smash chicks...and chicks that like him bc they think JACK will smash them? And the low % that actually like him for his music as actual listeners? BC as long as theres college students idk about this "fans out growing him thing" i have cousins fresh OUTTA HS bumping KIDS from mac miller in 2022....and Kush and OJ....thats that whole thing about "FANS" out growing certain artists. I grew to like mac more as a producer as i got older. Same with KANYE from their initial albums vs the songs/raps they put out later on into their career. U look at guys like jack and wonder if hes actually not a bad guy then well shit i dont ever have to worry about hearing about him over dosing, or falling off bc of mentals, or some sex/bs scandal getting him cancelled...not a fan of his music....but i "could" be one day if he makes something i like and keeps at it. Jack harlow is popular for the same rasons radiohead is IMO Im not white so i think it has a lot to do with that NGL. BC i cant understand why/how he got so big(like stuck/sells) Other than what i stated about his fans. IDK its just like you go HUMM was AKON/FLO RIDA/T-PAIN so "DOPE" back then bc it was a different time...or were they just being PUMPED bc their product was palatable to the "WHITES". I mean Theres white girls that turn up to WAP/Jack harlow...and some that can turn up to afro puffs...and the SHEER amount/difference between the 2...is obvious or else wed have A hell of a lot more "less" attractive looking women pumping out crass/brute raps to this day. Thats the damn shame of it all....non th0ts are too busy listening to "INDIE" music or etc soulful music, pop etc...rap aside....leaving the th0t culture/demographic to be all thats left to cash in on....sex sells....so they double down until the machine/system breaks itself and "moral superiority" becomes the new trend.
@@vandalg282 But his music holds no weight, when Drake, J Cole and Kendrick did half of those achievements everybody could tell them 3 were going to be goats in due time.
@@hotpockets69 plenty folks go thru a sophomore slump, his first album was good he just missed the second time around, I’ll tune in to part 3 to see if u can bounce back in quality
Well damn that means you can point me in the direction of a lot of music like Tyler Herro and What's poppin, so please do so because I love those songs.
The new album was very mid, everyone knows that. But people who say his career is over or that the “experiment failed” are overreacting. Plenty of rappers/artists have had sophomore slumps that they bounced back from. Even “corny” rappers like big Sean still had commercial hits and well-received albums after their sophomore slumps. Real fans of Jack know he has the capability to make solid projects like Loose and Confetti. If he can tap back into the energy of those projects then I think he’ll be fine. Either way, his personality is gonna keep him in some form of entertainment industry/the public eye for a while. But who knows, maybe he’ll fade into white boy obscurity like G-Eazy. Although even G-Eazy had 3 commercially successful albums before he truly fell off
I feel like the main problem with this album is that it failed to capture any of Harlow's charisma and I guess he decided to play it safe by being "generic" and it ended up not being well received. Also I kinda feel like there was a wave of hate leading up to the album by many but that's only from what I've seen on social media, but I think Jack Harlow can bounce back from this. He just has to capture all of the things that truly made him special.
i didnt like very much the beats...i think is trying to do a lot of revival of 2000 influences...from hip hop and r&b but somehow they're not very organized or cohesive....so i hope he can overcome this and other things in his next work
I really liked his verse on Industry Baby, I just want that energy in all of his lyrics. Not everything has to be serious, but it still needs some pizzazz.
Bro Jack Harlow is mad focused on becoming one of the best at what he does, he even stopped drinking and partying just to concentrate on his career. Mad respect to the guy.
this isnt a major blow, just because he didnt live up to some crazy hype doesnt mean he fell off or anything like that. he was just a little disappointing and all artists have been through that at some point, he'll put out some bangers in the near future, just watch
I have no idea why people acted like this was Jack's first album, it was like people only thought that he had a verse on "INDUSTRY BABY" and nothing else.
“He sidelines an original flavor in favor of widespread appeal” nailed it. So many artists these days that want to go pop/mainstream. Shits sad to see and most people still eat that shit up which is why this seems like a viable option to these artists.
There was no experiment. My boy Jack was making UA-cam videos as a teen, and finally made it big. I saw him making his name in Louisville, made our hometown "freshman xxl" list, and finally got some attention with Sundown. I'm happy for Jack, he deserves all of this success
@@GoalDigger4L Idk man I’ve been a really big fan of jack harlow since dark night.i really admired him but recently I’ve felt a little let down. In November i went to one of his concerts and it was pretty disappointing. Doors opened at 7 concert started at 8. He had 2 openers they each performed for like 10 minutes. 2 hrs in and he still wasn’t on stage. Every one was checking on IG and he was at a nuggets game the whole time. He finally shows up at 10:15 performs for 40 minutes then dips. He didn’t really have much chemistry with the crowd. He kept talking about how fire the concert was going to be but it never really got there. He also kept talking about how great he was going to be. Idk man i wasn’t feeling it. It didn’t feel genuine. And honestly that’s how this album felt to me. It doesn’t feel as genuine as his other albums like confetti and loose.he really overhyped it and it doesn’t have much substance. His bars and beats are pretty basic.maybe I have too much expectations for a pop star but thats just my opinion. I hope he can recover.
I hate when I can tell an artist is being forced on me through marketing. Bottom line is he isn't that interesting as a rapper. Seems like a cool dude but I've seen this story before and his name was G-Eazy. A pop rapper that is okay but is pushed way too hard because his whiteness makes him marketable. His industry connections allow him to get absurd cosigns that seem manufactured. People see through that shit.
The music industry did their best to repackage a white kid from upper middle class suburbs as a white guy from the hood, go long so far as him developing an accent so he doesn’t sound white. Good on the label for pulling that off but this kid was just ripe for the picking. Anyone recall the Pink line “we’ll make you a star, just change everything you are?” Although it’s gotten to the point where he purposely targets black girls as an audience and they seem to be eating up his fake ass. Sad how consumer consumption works and how corporations can influence us so much.
The problem is he feels like hes made it. Throughout multiple new tracks he basically states that hes the "man" now and that hes made it. He needs to go back to that hunger stage
He hasn’t been in the industry long enough to have lost the hunger for it. He’ll be alright his label rushed this album cuz they had to ride that wave.. his flow really ain’t that bad overall and with time I think he’ll get better with it.
@@robert2057 Listen to his bars, he is clearly stating that he made it and that he's the man now. He doesn't sound hungry or like he's grinding at all. He has a bar saying that he can get a feature from any artist he wants now but that's not because of him. It's because of Dj Drama. I doubt they rushed him into releasing his album due to the fact that Uzi, who is on the same label can hold out on doing so for years!
@@beasmode18 what’s wrong with him saying he’s the man now? Lol he kinda is rn! Look I’m not a huge fan of his, I think his music lacks substance but he’s young he ain’t been through nothing yet. I think over time he will perfect his craft or he don’t! But him saying he’s the man now don’t mean he ain’t hungry bro.. it’s better than him rap about guns, drugs and violence.
@@robert2057 I'm a huge fan of his and have been listening to his music before what's poppin. Him saying he's the man is only one example that i chose to use. He says alot more things that correlate to it. All i'm saying is he needs to humble himself and take a few steps back to write better stuff. I agree that he is young and has room to grow, this album is a perfect example of that. Drake, Lil Baby, Kendrick, J cole, Lil Durk , Post Malone ect are the man rn
What’s crazy about this is that I feel like seen himself as the next Mac Miller and couldn’t live up to it. Bro has the talent. He has the flow and personality, he needs to get serious and stop flexing and work. Like this man has the potential to have an established and stable career, he just isn’t working seriously working like Eminem or Mac. He has a lot to work on.
@@brutusb8004 Brutus literally shut the fuck up lmfao. He’s only popular because there’s more white rappers willing to take the shit as seriously as Mac and Em did. We respected tf out of Mac because he literally minded his business and made music. Entering a genre full of black people and you think you’re going to be super popular back in the day?? Em was literally lucky because he was from Detroit, could rap AND took it seriously. Name four well known white rappers in 2010 that was competing with Em. Ah, right. I forgot. There wasn’t that many on the market, which is why that would make him popular. This isn’t really about popularity if you could read context clues, this is about him having the potential and not using it.
@@cupidalucard facts dont care about how you feel child. Mac Miller, while very talented, wasnt respect nor admired in the game. At all. He was actively mocked just like every white rapper has been. He certainly had the ability to get past all of that, but he didnt get any credit until he died. F A C T S
@@mistermood4164 tyga is better than jack though. Hes a pop rapper imo and he knows how to make a hit. Plus hes had years of knowledge and music making experience that helped him out a lot. He adapts to whatever era hes in and not many can do what tyga did. Plus tyga doesnt have to sing like drake does, he knows how to use his voice so he doesnt have to
@@mistermood4164 jack should look at tyga and learn from him bc jack can be like tyga but just seems like he wants to be drake when he can't. He cant sing or rap as good as drake does.
Mac Miller left a huge void and the industry wants to benefit from that as soon as they can. There was only 1 cool ass chill white rapper that could hang w every clique and be himself and spit some amazing, deep or hilarious shit. RIP Mac and Jack we saw the plant from the door
Jack Harlow seems more hyped for his media persona than his actual music. His album was so bland and underwhelming. His music and rapping ability isn't strong enough for me to not think that alot of his popularity and hype is because he is a white rapper. Hopefully he can prove me wrong
@@okdthefmv What year do you live in? The most popular rappers nowadays are Future. Travis Scott. Migos. Drake. They don't display rap ability whatsoever and their music is so generic you can't even tell which of them made it. Snoop said it the the rappers of today future and migos etc all sound the same.
and thats where i personally draw the drake connotation...hes effectively gaslighting every other MC to come at him/diss him etc...then hell have some CLAP back tracks and some EPs come out to push how TUFF he is all the sudden...and do some "I wear all black with chains" bs marketing/im on the dark side....PHASE II of his career and have twitter beefs and ghost written diss tracks just like DRAKE....to "VALIDATE" his credibility
"I got a shot" feels like the most authentic Jack song on the album. Its so different from everything else on it and feels like he really had fun on it. To get a whole album with songs like that and "keep it light" would be intense.
This channel is great. Clear, straightforward reporting with lots of context and citing the critics, sales and publications to support your argument. Just good content that tells you something new in 12 min (at least for me, I never liked Jack Harlow so I had no idea where he came from, but now I do)
I think a LOT of artists get overhyped. They aren't given a genuine chance because the expectations are so high. Its a blessing and curse to have so much hype that fast
It's definitely a curse. Big hype makes you peak too soon and drop too soon. I always compare the music industry to sports, the hype works exactly the same in both
I have faith in him making a comeback. It's the height of his career, music quality usually goes down. Backlash might have him cooking up something authentic again though
Seems like Jack has a lot of people pushing for him, not rooting for him but rather desperately wanting him to succeed like he's just an investment. He's probably just another industry plant with some made up backstory. All these rappers and producers whose words are considered valued are all saying he's great when he's just "mid"? It feels like we're gonna find out he's the kid of some celebrity and the reason he was pushed into the forefront was because he had the money backing him and not because he was talented.
He needs to bring something fresh. He has potential. He has a personality that has people rooting for him. He needs to stop surrounding himself with all that luxury and start grinding in the studio. His previous album had so much soul, that organic vibe and that simplicity to it which instead of making it bad made it better which is missing here in the present album. It just sounds too mechanical, safe with all form and no substance. He has a personality and charm that's got people rooting for him nonetheless. So hope he brings his A game next time. Or he may have to start acting or something.
I met jack back in 2017 on his gazebo tour. Loved his music ever since but I have to admit, the older stuff with him working with 2f0w0yne & private garden was his best work. I truly hope he can find his footing and gets to where he wants to be.
The album was definitely underwhelming, but anyone comparing him to being "the next Drake" is setting themselves up for disappointment. Drake is a generational artist. It's an unrealistic comparison. I will agree that the push for this album was over the top. Personally, I did not think this album was good or bad. There are far worse hip hop artists than Jack Harlow making music right now.
i think they mean he's like drake in the sense that he has no artistic growth and is just gonna continue to put out commercial albums with no artistic value.
Idk a lot of Drake songs I cannot listen too but he's got some stunners : hotline bling, in my feelings, one of my favorite songs of all time is I'm upset... There's bound to be highs and lows in any artist's products 🤷 if every pork chop was perfect we wouldn't have got dogs
Wow. An amazing and insightful look at Jack Harlow that wasn’t mean, or click-bait, but an honest and articulate look at what made Jack’s latest work not push.
I think Jack has changed a lot since Come Home the Kids Miss you, he has transitioned from trying to be the next Drake making Rap/Pop music that gets a lot of radioplay-to being his own person making music which he is happy with and isnt going for streams or radioplay. This is shown by his album JACKMAN which contains only 10 songs (not many commercially successful albums have a low number of tracks on) , doesnt include a hit song and was released with no real build up or social media content before the album. In the 10 songs he raps about himself, his worries and topics that he finds prevalent to him. The album really gives a 360 view of Jack and in my opinion contains some masterpieces in. An example of this would be the track Common Ground, where Jack raps about the social and economic divide between black and white people where he grew up and how white people picked up some of the black slang and way of life, although coming from a safe and economically secure backround
He used the sample in a great way. It's the damn verses that make the song dull. 1st verse is not bad but the 2nd verse just drains me. And the production could have been better imo.
@@quiettraveller3287 i respectfully disagree, i think the way the sample was incredibly dull, but i do agree the second verse makes you fight off sleep.
I think he's got bars, I don't think he has a story yet. I listened to the album he definitely has bars but the soul is missing. That soul comes from his story, like after the album I felt I didn't know him or could relate
Had to search this up, because i remember dude coming out of nowhere, hearing and seeing this guy in EVERYTHING. Jack was straight up an industry plant that just didn't grow. The push was CRAZY and rushed. All these big name artist they had cosign him, but homie just couldnt live up to the hype, because it wasn't organic.
I think he had the same issue as Saweetie being that their looks/personality/social media presence overshadowed their music career. Jack is a talented rapper no doubt but most people bought into him through Tiktok with “What’s Poppin’”. The difference between him and Drake is that Drake in his earlier days cultivated a unique sound with 40 and Boi-1da that helped separate him from other popular rappers. He also sung and delved into issues not many rappers were open to talking about. Drake was able to carve out his own lane early on. Even though Drake’s music now is horribly mediocre, he still has classic projects and songs so he’s able to get a pass with putting out mid music. Jack unfortunately doesn’t have that pass. He still needs to establish his sound and voice. But he’s young so hopefully he’ll figure out his artistic lane.
I disagree, especially regarding the comparison of Jack to Saweetie. Jack is not THAT bad, this particular project just isn't that good. Jack has enough talent with the right fire to craft something decent. Saweetie, on the other hand, is better at being a social media influencer, that's where her true talent lies. She is not a good rapper and rarely even has her writers craft her anything worth releasing. There's a reason she has yet to release her debut album.
@@MissAlmostFine He’s got much more talent I agree but I was moreso talking about why they’re not taken as seriously in hip compared to other rappers. In the hip hop landscape Jack Harlow is looked at as a “pop rapper” even though he has co-signs from well respected rappers in the industry. But there’s no true authenticity to his music. He can rap very well but musically he’s sounds like people we’ve already heard before. Nothing original there.
Yep you hit the nail on the head. Drake basically started getting complacent with his drops but that was after he pretty much solidified himself at the top of the mountain. In Jack's case, hes dropping mid projects and he hasn't even established himself fully. Can he bounce back? Sure, he has that charisma to where people are pulled to him and would be willing to give him another chance, but he definitely has to step things up.
Jack Harlow isn’t bad, but he’s like G-Eazy. Two cool dudes who just make safe, palatable music that doesn’t really excel in anything. I could never get into either one despite trying.
*Jack is an enigma.* His music is like white noise ( no pun intended lol), loud and flashy enough to occasionally perk up your ear, but so droning and uninteresting that you can cook dinner, clean the house and do your math homework while it buzzes in the background. I personally leave each JH song feeling unmoved, but occasionally entertained. His likeability and his magnetic personality has been and continues to be his greatest strength as an artist. He is talented, no doubt, but it's becoming increasingly obvious that that's not what won him the favor with music industry. The push from the highest rungs of the industry and his social media clout created a double-edge sword, boosting his profile as an MC, even though he'd never be able to match the hype generated. *CHTKMY* was him aping his idols and recycling the same ol' same ol', occasionally great, but mostly passable and sometimes unspeakably bad. However, he has alot of drive and optimism so I won't count him out..yet.
It is a big come up for him. He featured some of his favorite artist and is getting the recognition he deserves. Jack is a hard worker and loves rap. He's still young he's going to grow and change right now he's popping his shit. He's on top of the world let him ride this wave. It's a big moment for Jack
Yup, plus It took J Cole a while to reach the level of one of the all time greats and there’s still some people who say he’s cheesy, overrated and repetitive. Jack’s not here to please everybody, he’s here to make music for his fans who relate to him. His career ain’t ending anytime soon
The album was pretty solid and will stream extremely well. Jack makes fun music and that's exactly what he did. It's not a top 10 all time album or anything special but who the hell was expecting something legendary from fn Jack Harlow
I think he made everyone appreciate how good Drake is ,and how enjoyable drake's music is , regardless if u not a fan .now people start to notice that ,it's not just about the image.
The experiment hasn't failed, it's just a bump in the road. It's still largely successful, and this negative reception to this one project is being overblown as is common on the internet. It wasn't SO bad that we are gonna keep clowning on it for months to come, if it was then I would say the experiment failed.
@@tylerd1297 it’s a fail if his budget isn’t recouped my boy. It’s business, can’t just sell under expectations by a margin that large. He may or may not be in the red 🤷🏾♂️.
@@i_am_gohan9232 Ok, so then you don't actually know if it hurt his pockets lol. Admittedly, I'm no expert on the financial aspect of music, with streaming and equivalence to album sales. But at 109k, I'm really skeptical that this sunk him. Outside of music he should be doing well with his endorsements/sneaker deal and shows.
“What’s poppin is the best thing I’ve heard from him” is a stupid ass take. Truth be told I think most of the takes against Jack are coming from a place of defiance rather than actually solidified opinions. This album was for sure mid but it’s as if every person feels the need to put a spin on their opinion on him so the takes just become inflammatory and unreasonable. You’re always going to have the dusty dudes who call it fuckboi music and find their reason. You’re always going to have the people who just started hearing from him so think he’s an industry plant. And you’re always going to have the white rapper take because the white audience supports tf out of their 1-5 white rappers and we’re all tired of seeing it. He’s not done with good music in my opinion just think the stardom messed up his trajectory for this album.
How is saying "What’s poppin is the best thing I’ve heard from him" a stupid take when music is subjective? He never said it's the best thing Jack ever made. He said it's the best thing HE's heard from him. Who are you to say that something is wrong just because you dont agree with it?
I think it’s crazy unfair to say that this was supposed to his Graduation. He hasn’t even had a Late Registration or College Dropout. He doesn’t make his own beats like Cole or Ye and I doubt he has as much control over his creative direction as that one clip said. Jack is a southern G-Eazy, which isn’t a knock. Jack is cool as hell, and he’ll pop off on features, but I don’t think he’ll ever have a classic album.
@@mrdarkfantasy5857 for sure. And I’m definitely not trying to knock G Eazy. Dude has had big records and does numbers whenever he drops. I can see Jack having that same trajectory. Not everybody can be god level. That’s my beef with this video. Dude is trying to say that everyone was expecting Jack to drop an album the level of graduation and in my opinion that isn’t true or fair
You sound like a hater/jealous, to call someone aggressively mediocre for every aspect of their being, how are you even coming for personality as of you know him? Peak parasocial behaviour
Bro at least 5 of those songs where just absolute fire idk what your talking about still I’ve been a subscriber for a while and it’s good to hear your opinion
I was actually looking forward to his album, but damn is it disappointing. there's not a single song i'll go back to. hopefully jack can turn things around because i think he has talent and a positive message.
Even if no one reads this comment, just here to say at the end of everyday the only person someone’s art has to impress is the artist. I can tell he’s very proud of this album, he has some of the greatest artist co sign him on this , a few that some who have been in the game for years haven’t even worked with yet. For people saying he’s an industry plant obviously don’t know about him working towards his goal for 10 years already.
People acting like jack hasn’t put out a good album which isn’t putting enough respect on his name. He just rushed an album doesn’t mean he should be shunned when he’ll put out a good song in a couple months at most
I’ve never heard his music, but because they kept trying to force feed him to me on every black platform I know I knew I would never listen to him. I do not support industry plants!
Jack didn't fail or anything. If his next project is great then he'll be fine. He just dropped one very bad project which was odd because his other projects generally has nice song writing.
The song writting was not at his best here... the album felt rushed...i think he should have only dropped a few random tracks if he wanted just go on the hype flow not a actual album I am rooting for his next work
Y’all criticizing Harlow like he supposed to be next artist of the decade, not too fair. The dudes a whole vibe and Shawn Cee is a dork. Harlow Album is dope
Mac had a pretty good production team and musical community, he was gonna grow past his frat rap phase regardless. To me, Harlow is another Marky Mark and will smith. Using rap to get into Hollywood
Not a comparison at all other than the reduced race argument. Mac Miller is a real spitter Jack Harlow will never have bars like Mac Miller let’s keep it a buck
@@marilynmonheaux plus MAC could produce too...run a label on the side and sign dudes and work with them in the lab etc....much like kanye was doing with his career....imagine JACK doing this with....would be FUTURE JACK/drake clones of the world....big hell naw by most....im just imagining what names to call their lables festival...cheek fest? or fuccboi fest 2023?
It's unfortunate because Jack, by all measures, does seem like a genuine and chill dude. He just needs to carve out his own identity when it comes to his music and find a way to make what he's saying a little more interesting and unique. Once that happens, he'll be a true undeniable star.
Jack has to come out with a few BANGER singles quick to get the focus back on the right track. Get away from wooing the ladies with this abstract light stuff and come with some heavy 808s and a bravado in his lyrics that make people take notice. If the chatter is there that he could be "the next drake" he needs to be assertive and grab that sh*t. Follow that up with a concept album that sticks to a theme throughout and release a short film to go with it. An undercover cop in 80s Miami with synthesizer heavy throwback beats - he rocks aviators and a mustache in the short film... or a Blade Runner/Tron futuristic bounty hunter with drawn out chords - he rocks a leather duster with Neo shades in the short film. Expand the offering to the masses and morph his game into something new.
Jack is cool, I think next project has to be a bigger risk though. He doesn’t have to be genre defining or anything but he needs some spice mixed in the pot. More creative beats, different rhyme schemes, different vocal octaves too. His rapper voice is a voice he puts on. It isn’t the natural way he speaks. You can tell watching interviews with him. He’s potentially in the best lane to be in rn in hip hop. I rlly hope he shows out next time coming
He’s what people said Logic was, stealing flows, and having no identity. Logic does actually have his own sound tho, it’s borrowed from The 90s, with the boom bap sound at his core, and it works. I think that’s jacks issue. He doesn’t have a core fan base like Logic, and Logic is biracial, but he looks more white right. I’ve been to a Logic show on his second album in 2016 and the fans really showed up.
I'm gonna be honest. Every rapper after 2014 or so is all hype. It's why you don't hear of many of them with longevity. This generation will never have a Jay z, Kanye, 50 cent, or even a damn MC Hammer. Nobody will remember these guys in 10 years let alone 30.
Public Opinion is also very consequential. I didn’t think “CHTKMY” was a terrible album. In fact, it felt like Jack Harlow’s authenticity was at its peak. This is how he’s always sounded, to me at least. It’s just that the hype is not as swelling as it once was. He’s got Nothing else to talk about.
I'm going to be completely honest here.. but people are being way too fucking hard on this guy. I mean, the album wasn't the AOTY but it was a lot better than people are making it out to be, ffs. It is far from a flop. I feel like people didn't like this dude from the start but couldn't say anything because his likeability and his extremely large and loyal fanbase. Now those guys are just finally starting to unleash on this so called 'white boy', claiming they didn't like him from the start. Saying this dude makes "f*boy music" is just pure jealousy and frankly just plain cringe. Also the reason people liked him is because his laid back flow and told him to never change.. and now people are hating on his new album because he did those exact things..Makes no fucking sense. They shoot you up to the top, only to bring you down afterwards.. I honestly feel for the guy
@@waynesmith7746 I agree with you guys. The album is definiately mid but I'm just saying that I feel like people are starting to hate on him as a person by using his new music as an excuse. They're simply going too hard on him for the sake of it.
Yeah, that's what I see as funny. The "f$&+ boy music" thing, was his appeal, and what made him. Now he's being actively sabotaged by the same industry/ppl, that hyped it. After all the shit about Drake "using" young talent, that "leak" , was definately used, to derail Harlow, and keep Drake, in his spot.
Jack's music is not bad, specially compared to most of the shit that comes out lately. The problem is people get annoyed when they see someone else blow up and get love. People dont understand where he came from, guys dont know why all the girls love him, rappers dont know why the industry loves him, so people get jealous as fuck. He gets push online and in social media cause he's carismatic as fuck, and while that works to entertain a certain audience, it also helps to grow a big audience of people waiting to judge him and call him "overhyped". A lot of this backlash comes from resentment: "Why these bitches like him so much hes ugly and skinny, why is he hanging w drake he just popped on the scene, why does he get so much push if he's white". It dont matter though, Jack's fanbase is enough to hold him right for 5 more years, in which he will have time to grow artistically too
I can tell Harlow is at a bit of a writer’s block. He’s been at it for 10 years. He just caught on 2 years ago. With 4 charting songs. I say give him some time to come in swinging again yk?
@@jocelyncooper1738 yea, if his core fans happen to agree with mainstream fans that Harlow is getting sloppy or whatever. Writers block is serious. He can be making the same type of music, but say something different. A different perspective. The reason 2pac is great is because he got to tell other people's stories that he either knew personally or read on newspapers ( Brenda's got a baby) 50 cent tells hood stories some times but when he spits serious topics like "the funeral" he pulls you into the hood. Harlow has reached his peak. He's famous. Top of the charts...It only goes down from there. He's made it and hes getting comfortable. I recommend he acts in a movie meanwhile he figures out his craft for his next project. That way he stays relevant for a while. He could drop a freestyle, disappear and he'll still be on the radar. Depending how well he plays the industry.
Jack got all the makings of a superstar. He got the connections, the charisma, and the support. And he’s shown that he can genuinely rap and put out good music. I really hope he can bounce back from that because the album was very disappointing.
jack has never ending talent, some of the greats drop mid second albums this just wasn’t his sound. that’s what they all say is a phenomenal album and he’ll definitely be back and better than ever that’s a promise
The Jack Harlow push was crazy. He received a sneaker deal, was on every magazine cover, was on every talk show, did SNL, tried to sing, and in return he dropped a MID album in between Future and Kendrick Lamar.
That may have been the biggest mistake lmaoo
Unfortunately yeah
It did numbers though….that’s a W. Men lie, women lie, numbers don’t
What does mid mean? Mediocre?
@@nikibronson133 yes
You can tell the industry is pushing him very hard to be the next pop star..
idk if it's exactly the industry but his team might've pushed him too high for his actual current artistic status. they got him up everywhere, good features, but the standalone artistic value isn't matching up
@@spacevadr10 i can tell Harlow is at a bit of a writer’s block. He’s been at it for 10 years. He just caught on 2 years ago. With 4 charting songs. I say give him some time to come in swinging again yk?
Yes and it’s annoying asf
He can’t sing like Drake or fully produce his own beats like Kanye. So it’ll be hard for him to be a pop star.
@@malcolmxpanther autotune?
He's smart and has a very likeable personality. He plays it safe. He makes the most basic/not great/not terrible rap music out there and it seems to be working good for him.
Lol
Problem is that he blew his load out the gate and laughably saved drake for his victory lap? LOL OKAY. Can't wait until kids talk about drake and how corny he is the same way kids are clowning other legends of the past. Drake is a curse for everyone.
Yeah that's the thing, I mean for sure he is being hyped to hell by rappers and also fans, so I see the perspective that he failed to live up to those expectations. At the same time it's like he's just a dude. So he didn't make 200k, he still sold damn near more albums than a LOT of artists opening week. And there are tons of artists like him just going with the flow, not much regard for creativity. I could also see the criticism if he was talking shit about how much he was going to sell, but I really don't think so. Opinions like this seem redundant, for people like him, but it was good vid, no hate to HHM
still trash tho
Lol
Jack should take a long vacation with a laptop, mic, a midi controller and some friends. Let the jams/vibes flow, I say.
Yes.
It’s prolly a lot easier for him to stay in the media realm and make music for women
@@yvnginfinity Naw, he’s going to need to do that shit ASAP. 🤷🏾♂️ he’s got potential… but he needs substance
This. Cool off with the endless interviews and goofing around. Let the fame make him lazy.
@@lightsoda7445 Ayoooo that profile pic is crazy
The second a artist doesn't live up to a unreasonable hype everyone is so quick to say Oh they're over and so on. Let the man have a career arch.
If his career an arch then he passed the peak
Agreed
This is the replacement we've been expecting. Black men are gonna be irrelevant in their own industry
what great rap artists have had a bad first debut album ? I don’t think you can name one
@@heavenshound6775 this his second album, which makes it worse. Wack harlow indeed
I see the Jack Harlow push the same way I saw the Macklemore push back in 2012-14. He did SNL, multiple magazine covers, was a XXL Freshman, and had major accolades with awards and the charts. The difference between Macklemore and Harlow, however, is that people still find him as a good artist who has potential and was able to keep their head up after hitting a slump with their fans. I think Jack Harlow’s gonna grow with his fans instead of his fans outgrowing him, but only time will tell.
his fans? like dudes that pretend to like him to smash chicks...and chicks that like him bc they think JACK will smash them? And the low % that actually like him for his music as actual listeners? BC as long as theres college students idk about this "fans out growing him thing" i have cousins fresh OUTTA HS bumping KIDS from mac miller in 2022....and Kush and OJ....thats that whole thing about "FANS" out growing certain artists. I grew to like mac more as a producer as i got older. Same with KANYE from their initial albums vs the songs/raps they put out later on into their career. U look at guys like jack and wonder if hes actually not a bad guy then well shit i dont ever have to worry about hearing about him over dosing, or falling off bc of mentals, or some sex/bs scandal getting him cancelled...not a fan of his music....but i "could" be one day if he makes something i like and keeps at it. Jack harlow is popular for the same rasons radiohead is IMO Im not white so i think it has a lot to do with that NGL. BC i cant understand why/how he got so big(like stuck/sells) Other than what i stated about his fans. IDK its just like you go HUMM was AKON/FLO RIDA/T-PAIN so "DOPE" back then bc it was a different time...or were they just being PUMPED bc their product was palatable to the "WHITES". I mean Theres white girls that turn up to WAP/Jack harlow...and some that can turn up to afro puffs...and the SHEER amount/difference between the 2...is obvious or else wed have A hell of a lot more "less" attractive looking women pumping out crass/brute raps to this day. Thats the damn shame of it all....non th0ts are too busy listening to "INDIE" music or etc soulful music, pop etc...rap aside....leaving the th0t culture/demographic to be all thats left to cash in on....sex sells....so they double down until the machine/system breaks itself and "moral superiority" becomes the new trend.
Like AK said in the past, "It doesn't matter if the Industry picks you, The Fans have to Pick You"
And the fans did....album platinum, worked with Drake, streaming, sales, two hits already playing in clubs, getting spins. Nuff said.
AK from the underachievers???
@@vandalg282 working with drake isn’t something that the fans chose lmao. It’s just industry sh*t,
@@tarajhii I wish but prolly akademiks lol
@@vandalg282 But his music holds no weight, when Drake, J Cole and Kendrick did half of those achievements everybody could tell them 3 were going to be goats in due time.
I wish Jack nothing but the best. He's a good dude. I believe he can comeback. Trial and error
Facts, i think people are writing him off to quick
100k first week sales and you're talking about him making a "comeback" 🥴
@@hotpockets69 how is that bad it's better than his first album
@@mrstrangeworld5977 read what I said again.
@@hotpockets69 plenty folks go thru a sophomore slump, his first album was good he just missed the second time around, I’ll tune in to part 3 to see if u can bounce back in quality
Jack pushes zero boundaries in his music, i dont feel like i miss anything not listening to him
Well damn that means you can point me in the direction of a lot of music like Tyler Herro and What's poppin, so please do so because I love those songs.
@@kevinhansen9258 okay bro
thats how i feel about every artist since 2015
@@morale493 He's not wrong youknow
@@kevinhansen9258 you arent everybody
The new album was very mid, everyone knows that. But people who say his career is over or that the “experiment failed” are overreacting. Plenty of rappers/artists have had sophomore slumps that they bounced back from. Even “corny” rappers like big Sean still had commercial hits and well-received albums after their sophomore slumps. Real fans of Jack know he has the capability to make solid projects like Loose and Confetti. If he can tap back into the energy of those projects then I think he’ll be fine. Either way, his personality is gonna keep him in some form of entertainment industry/the public eye for a while. But who knows, maybe he’ll fade into white boy obscurity like G-Eazy. Although even G-Eazy had 3 commercially successful albums before he truly fell off
True. The 'difficult second album' is a common phenomena.
The video literally says : "its not irreparable "......which means he can repair the damage to his reputation.
😂😂why you repeating them
For sure but over
Mid
I really don’t know what you guys hear in Confetti and Loose. Those projects are even more mid and faceless than this one to me.
I feel like the main problem with this album is that it failed to capture any of Harlow's charisma and I guess he decided to play it safe by being "generic" and it ended up not being well received. Also I kinda feel like there was a wave of hate leading up to the album by many but that's only from what I've seen on social media, but I think Jack Harlow can bounce back from this. He just has to capture all of the things that truly made him special.
i didnt like very much the beats...i think is trying to do a lot of revival of 2000 influences...from hip hop and r&b but somehow they're not very organized or cohesive....so i hope he can overcome this and other things in his next work
I really liked his verse on Industry Baby, I just want that energy in all of his lyrics. Not everything has to be serious, but it still needs some pizzazz.
Bro Jack Harlow is mad focused on becoming one of the best at what he does, he even stopped drinking and partying just to concentrate on his career. Mad respect to the guy.
Hes gassed up u wont kno he existed in 2 or 3 years from now
That makes me like him less
Lmfao 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Guy fucking sucks 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@ericsmith7635why?
watching him take a critical L has kinda made me like him more. i want to see how he delivers after the facing this major blow
this isnt a major blow, just because he didnt live up to some crazy hype doesnt mean he fell off or anything like that. he was just a little disappointing and all artists have been through that at some point, he'll put out some bangers in the near future, just watch
I have no idea why people acted like this was Jack's first album, it was like people only thought that he had a verse on "INDUSTRY BABY" and nothing else.
This was his “sophomore” album “technically”
Well yeah before that he was only like a 10M monthly spotify type of guy, with most of them listening to like 2 or 3 songs. Nobody knows his albums
“He sidelines an original flavor in favor of widespread appeal” nailed it. So many artists these days that want to go pop/mainstream. Shits sad to see and most people still eat that shit up which is why this seems like a viable option to these artists.
Lyrics and bars designed for highschool kids.
There was no experiment. My boy Jack was making UA-cam videos as a teen, and finally made it big. I saw him making his name in Louisville, made our hometown "freshman xxl" list, and finally got some attention with Sundown. I'm happy for Jack, he deserves all of this success
People just hate cause it’s a trend
Sundown and dark knight was bangers
@@jasonsizemore3893 True, Dark knight and onnaway went hard af
@@GoalDigger4L Idk man I’ve been a really big fan of jack harlow since dark night.i really admired him but recently I’ve felt a little let down. In November i went to one of his concerts and it was pretty disappointing. Doors opened at 7 concert started at 8. He had 2 openers they each performed for like 10 minutes. 2 hrs in and he still wasn’t on stage. Every one was checking on IG and he was at a nuggets game the whole time. He finally shows up at 10:15 performs for 40 minutes then dips. He didn’t really have much chemistry with the crowd. He kept talking about how fire the concert was going to be but it never really got there. He also kept talking about how great he was going to be. Idk man i wasn’t feeling it. It didn’t feel genuine. And honestly that’s how this album felt to me. It doesn’t feel as genuine as his other albums like confetti and loose.he really overhyped it and it doesn’t have much substance. His bars and beats are pretty basic.maybe I have too much expectations for a pop star but thats just my opinion. I hope he can recover.
Sure ... Classic industry plant my boy
I hate when I can tell an artist is being forced on me through marketing. Bottom line is he isn't that interesting as a rapper. Seems like a cool dude but I've seen this story before and his name was G-Eazy.
A pop rapper that is okay but is pushed way too hard because his whiteness makes him marketable. His industry connections allow him to get absurd cosigns that seem manufactured. People see through that shit.
100% ive been saying this since i heard nail tech 500 times a day on the radio
Facts
For real. I was asking a friend who Jack Harlow is and why he's everywhere. I thought I had missed something.
That’s how I feel about Anderson Pak
Most accurate take I've seen
The music industry did their best to repackage a white kid from upper middle class suburbs as a white guy from the hood, go long so far as him developing an accent so he doesn’t sound white. Good on the label for pulling that off but this kid was just ripe for the picking. Anyone recall the Pink line “we’ll make you a star, just change everything you are?” Although it’s gotten to the point where he purposely targets black girls as an audience and they seem to be eating up his fake ass. Sad how consumer consumption works and how corporations can influence us so much.
This man was massively overhyped. Jack made me appreciate Drake's talent and skill. And no, I'm not a Drake fan.
Yeah Drake is a pop rapper that’s actually good
@@Historicutuber the only pop rapper that most Hip-Hop heads can appreciate
Right
You a mean a culture vulture and ghostwriter
I rate this comment.
The problem is he feels like hes made it. Throughout multiple new tracks he basically states that hes the "man" now and that hes made it. He needs to go back to that hunger stage
He hasn’t been in the industry long enough to have lost the hunger for it. He’ll be alright his label rushed this album cuz they had to ride that wave.. his flow really ain’t that bad overall and with time I think he’ll get better with it.
@@robert2057 Listen to his bars, he is clearly stating that he made it and that he's the man now. He doesn't sound hungry or like he's grinding at all. He has a bar saying that he can get a feature from any artist he wants now but that's not because of him. It's because of Dj Drama. I doubt they rushed him into releasing his album due to the fact that Uzi, who is on the same label can hold out on doing so for years!
@@beasmode18 what’s wrong with him saying he’s the man now? Lol he kinda is rn! Look I’m not a huge fan of his, I think his music lacks substance but he’s young he ain’t been through nothing yet. I think over time he will perfect his craft or he don’t! But him saying he’s the man now don’t mean he ain’t hungry bro.. it’s better than him rap about guns, drugs and violence.
@@robert2057 I'm a huge fan of his and have been listening to his music before what's poppin. Him saying he's the man is only one example that i chose to use. He says alot more things that correlate to it. All i'm saying is he needs to humble himself and take a few steps back to write better stuff. I agree that he is young and has room to grow, this album is a perfect example of that. Drake, Lil Baby, Kendrick, J cole, Lil Durk , Post Malone ect are the man rn
He sounded better when he was in high school if you ask me
What’s crazy about this is that I feel like seen himself as the next Mac Miller and couldn’t live up to it. Bro has the talent. He has the flow and personality, he needs to get serious and stop flexing and work.
Like this man has the potential to have an established and stable career, he just isn’t working seriously working like Eminem or Mac. He has a lot to work on.
Man Miller was never as popular as Jack Harlow is right now. Understand that.
@@brutusb8004 Brutus literally shut the fuck up lmfao. He’s only popular because there’s more white rappers willing to take the shit as seriously as Mac and Em did. We respected tf out of Mac because he literally minded his business and made music.
Entering a genre full of black people and you think you’re going to be super popular back in the day?? Em was literally lucky because he was from Detroit, could rap AND took it seriously.
Name four well known white rappers in 2010 that was competing with Em.
Ah, right. I forgot. There wasn’t that many on the market, which is why that would make him popular.
This isn’t really about popularity if you could read context clues, this is about him having the potential and not using it.
@@brutusb8004 Understand that I still said wtf I said regardless of how you feel.
@@cupidalucard facts dont care about how you feel child. Mac Miller, while very talented, wasnt respect nor admired in the game. At all. He was actively mocked just like every white rapper has been. He certainly had the ability to get past all of that, but he didnt get any credit until he died. F A C T S
@@bossshxtonly yes. Because Jack Harlow is white. It would be smart to compare a white rapper to other white rappers…
I think it would be great if he releases a couple of EPs and mixtapes before his next album to develop / find his sound
Idk man i think this might be it lol
@@gvngbvngiggy nah if tyga made a comeback anyone can lol
@@mistermood4164 tyga is better than jack though. Hes a pop rapper imo and he knows how to make a hit. Plus hes had years of knowledge and music making experience that helped him out a lot. He adapts to whatever era hes in and not many can do what tyga did. Plus tyga doesnt have to sing like drake does, he knows how to use his voice so he doesnt have to
@@mistermood4164 jack should look at tyga and learn from him bc jack can be like tyga but just seems like he wants to be drake when he can't. He cant sing or rap as good as drake does.
@@mistermood4164 im saying that might be his sound. His final form lol. He can still make an occasional hit like tyga. Tyga is still trash though.
Mac Miller left a huge void and the industry wants to benefit from that as soon as they can. There was only 1 cool ass chill white rapper that could hang w every clique and be himself and spit some amazing, deep or hilarious shit. RIP Mac and Jack we saw the plant from the door
Preacheee long live mac top five
Bad Bunny took his spot w the quickness. And BB doesn't rap in English. 😂
Jack Harlow seems more hyped for his media persona than his actual music. His album was so bland and underwhelming. His music and rapping ability isn't strong enough for me to not think that alot of his popularity and hype is because he is a white rapper. Hopefully he can prove me wrong
@@Fourtune1 Well that's if he can actually Act
He’s mad talented listen to his old stuff like dark knight
@sugarpuffs no he's wack. Let's call a spade a spade.
That’s why he gets the push. He’s whites , pass for me
@@okdthefmv
What year do you live in? The most popular rappers nowadays are Future. Travis Scott. Migos. Drake.
They don't display rap ability whatsoever and their music is so generic you can't even tell which of them made it.
Snoop said it the the rappers of today future and migos etc all sound the same.
The biggest problem with this album was how each song was just so similar. "Ay look I made I'm big", each fricking song
and thats where i personally draw the drake connotation...hes effectively gaslighting every other MC to come at him/diss him etc...then hell have some CLAP back tracks and some EPs come out to push how TUFF he is all the sudden...and do some "I wear all black with chains" bs marketing/im on the dark side....PHASE II of his career and have twitter beefs and ghost written diss tracks just like DRAKE....to "VALIDATE" his credibility
What you think of his new album bro?
Wait this video is 2 years old and it just hit me that I haven't heard a Jack Harlow song since Churchill Downs
"I got a shot" feels like the most authentic Jack song on the album. Its so different from everything else on it and feels like he really had fun on it. To get a whole album with songs like that and "keep it light" would be intense.
Jack's tiny desk concert with the live band is better than anything he's released on streaming
which proves his raw talent
and how something strategy wise on his career is not being well lead
Yes! Absolutely! I was thinking the same
Big facts
But his band and background singers carried it
This channel is great. Clear, straightforward reporting with lots of context and citing the critics, sales and publications to support your argument. Just good content that tells you something new in 12 min (at least for me, I never liked Jack Harlow so I had no idea where he came from, but now I do)
I think a LOT of artists get overhyped. They aren't given a genuine chance because the expectations are so high. Its a blessing and curse to have so much hype that fast
Yea, there isn’t any time to grow anymore. Just like the nfl, qbs aren’t developed there’re just thrown on the field
True. They get overhyped or crowned the next "enter iconic artist here" and they very rarely can live up to that.
He overhyped himself
It's definitely a curse. Big hype makes you peak too soon and drop too soon. I always compare the music industry to sports, the hype works exactly the same in both
I have faith in him making a comeback. It's the height of his career, music quality usually goes down. Backlash might have him cooking up something authentic again though
Yeah his early projects were really good. This new album just isn’t it. He can bounce back
@@TheAmaterazzzu i never heard of this man untill now
He’s 22. I don’t even think he’s hit his peak, maybe commercially, but prime of his career? Nah
Seems like Jack has a lot of people pushing for him, not rooting for him but rather desperately wanting him to succeed like he's just an investment. He's probably just another industry plant with some made up backstory. All these rappers and producers whose words are considered valued are all saying he's great when he's just "mid"? It feels like we're gonna find out he's the kid of some celebrity and the reason he was pushed into the forefront was because he had the money backing him and not because he was talented.
He needs to bring something fresh. He has potential. He has a personality that has people rooting for him. He needs to stop surrounding himself with all that luxury and start grinding in the studio. His previous album had so much soul, that organic vibe and that simplicity to it which instead of making it bad made it better which is missing here in the present album. It just sounds too mechanical, safe with all form and no substance. He has a personality and charm that's got people rooting for him nonetheless. So hope he brings his A game next time. Or he may have to start acting or something.
Needs to go on that 2012-2014 Mac Miller process. Not the drugs, but gotta expand his sound n his own talent
Mumble rappers don't have an A game. Best he can do is a D- game.
@@_Mack___ so be as wack as possible with no bars and almost 0 ability to actually rap?
@alt alt talent doesn't mumble.
@@FrostWazowski Jack Harlow is not a mumble rapper fyi.
I love the angles y’all make videos from. Keep up the great work
I met jack back in 2017 on his gazebo tour. Loved his music ever since but I have to admit, the older stuff with him working with 2f0w0yne & private garden was his best work. I truly hope he can find his footing and gets to where he wants to be.
The album was definitely underwhelming, but anyone comparing him to being "the next Drake" is setting themselves up for disappointment. Drake is a generational artist. It's an unrealistic comparison. I will agree that the push for this album was over the top. Personally, I did not think this album was good or bad. There are far worse hip hop artists than Jack Harlow making music right now.
i think they mean he's like drake in the sense that he has no artistic growth and is just gonna continue to put out commercial albums with no artistic value.
Drake also likes underage girls so let’s pray that Jack isnt like him
@sugarpuffs Tom is fire you just hate truth and facts and victim hood bars lmao
Idk a lot of Drake songs I cannot listen too but he's got some stunners : hotline bling, in my feelings, one of my favorite songs of all time is I'm upset... There's bound to be highs and lows in any artist's products 🤷 if every pork chop was perfect we wouldn't have got dogs
Drake isn't an artist. He doesn't write his own music
Wow. An amazing and insightful look at Jack Harlow that wasn’t mean, or click-bait, but an honest and articulate look at what made Jack’s latest work not push.
I think Jack has changed a lot since Come Home the Kids Miss you, he has transitioned from trying to be the next Drake making Rap/Pop music that gets a lot of radioplay-to being his own person making music which he is happy with and isnt going for streams or radioplay. This is shown by his album JACKMAN which contains only 10 songs (not many commercially successful albums have a low number of tracks on) , doesnt include a hit song and was released with no real build up or social media content before the album. In the 10 songs he raps about himself, his worries and topics that he finds prevalent to him. The album really gives a 360 view of Jack and in my opinion contains some masterpieces in. An example of this would be the track Common Ground, where Jack raps about the social and economic divide between black and white people where he grew up and how white people picked up some of the black slang and way of life, although coming from a safe and economically secure backround
Pitchfork nailed it! Jack is just a nice guy, his music is pretty generic. He even turned Fergie’s Glamorous into a cheap song IMO.
Glamorous was already a cheap song.... He just failed to improve it or put his own twist on it
It's a well done mix tho. As a long time rap listener, it's a good track.
He used the sample in a great way. It's the damn verses that make the song dull. 1st verse is not bad but the 2nd verse just drains me. And the production could have been better imo.
@@quiettraveller3287 yea, 2nd verse was mid compared to the 1st
@@quiettraveller3287 i respectfully disagree, i think the way the sample was incredibly dull, but i do agree the second verse makes you fight off sleep.
I have nothing against the guy, but he's proof that being a marketable asset is more important than having actual talent these days
Yo he got actuall tallent what u mean
I think he's got bars, I don't think he has a story yet. I listened to the album he definitely has bars but the soul is missing. That soul comes from his story, like after the album I felt I didn't know him or could relate
the strategy os actually the worse they do with him
Well he's just a safe rapper who dropped a few bangers at perfect times, so this is expected
All of yall mfs who think you got the industry figured out, don't. Obviously Harlow is all confidence, that's not fucking new
Had to search this up, because i remember dude coming out of nowhere, hearing and seeing this guy in EVERYTHING. Jack was straight up an industry plant that just didn't grow. The push was CRAZY and rushed. All these big name artist they had cosign him, but homie just couldnt live up to the hype, because it wasn't organic.
I think he had the same issue as Saweetie being that their looks/personality/social media presence overshadowed their music career. Jack is a talented rapper no doubt but most people bought into him through Tiktok with “What’s Poppin’”. The difference between him and Drake is that Drake in his earlier days cultivated a unique sound with 40 and Boi-1da that helped separate him from other popular rappers. He also sung and delved into issues not many rappers were open to talking about. Drake was able to carve out his own lane early on. Even though Drake’s music now is horribly mediocre, he still has classic projects and songs so he’s able to get a pass with putting out mid music. Jack unfortunately doesn’t have that pass. He still needs to establish his sound and voice. But he’s young so hopefully he’ll figure out his artistic lane.
This
I disagree, especially regarding the comparison of Jack to Saweetie. Jack is not THAT bad, this particular project just isn't that good. Jack has enough talent with the right fire to craft something decent. Saweetie, on the other hand, is better at being a social media influencer, that's where her true talent lies. She is not a good rapper and rarely even has her writers craft her anything worth releasing. There's a reason she has yet to release her debut album.
@@MissAlmostFine He’s got much more talent I agree but I was moreso talking about why they’re not taken as seriously in hip compared to other rappers. In the hip hop landscape Jack Harlow is looked at as a “pop rapper” even though he has co-signs from well respected rappers in the industry. But there’s no true authenticity to his music. He can rap very well but musically he’s sounds like people we’ve already heard before. Nothing original there.
Drake also has a ghost writer
Yep you hit the nail on the head. Drake basically started getting complacent with his drops but that was after he pretty much solidified himself at the top of the mountain.
In Jack's case, hes dropping mid projects and he hasn't even established himself fully. Can he bounce back? Sure, he has that charisma to where people are pulled to him and would be willing to give him another chance, but he definitely has to step things up.
And the Pharrell joint was hot trash. He scammed Jack for that beat. Lol
I agree with Shawn Cee on his “Pharrell sold the white boy an 1/8 for $100” statement.
Jack Harlow isn’t bad, but he’s like G-Eazy. Two cool dudes who just make safe, palatable music that doesn’t really excel in anything. I could never get into either one despite trying.
*Jack is an enigma.*
His music is like white noise ( no pun intended lol), loud and flashy enough to occasionally perk up your ear, but so droning and uninteresting that you can cook dinner, clean the house and do your math homework while it buzzes in the background. I personally leave each JH song feeling unmoved, but occasionally entertained.
His likeability and his magnetic personality has been and continues to be his greatest strength as an artist. He is talented, no doubt, but it's becoming increasingly obvious that that's not what won him the favor with music industry. The push from the highest rungs of the industry and his social media clout created a double-edge sword, boosting his profile as an MC, even though he'd never be able to match the hype generated.
*CHTKMY* was him aping his idols and recycling the same ol' same ol', occasionally great, but mostly passable and sometimes unspeakably bad. However, he has alot of drive and optimism so I won't count him out..yet.
What u on about he bangs
Yea that’s the perfect way to describe his music, i dont hate it, it’s just not interesting
This was a perfect description.
PLEASE. DO. MUSIC. REVIEWS.
anything.
You have a way with words.
what a write up :')
reminds me of post malone first album w the white noise analogy
Confetti and Loose are some of his best projects, interesting how since he has been releasing albums that his quality has seemed to lessen.
Loose was a great album. Definitely my favorite from him.
that happens when they release too much in so little time. happened to a lot of bands. its why they take hiatus. but idk about rappers or popstars.
@@XxSTACKxX he took a 2 year Hiatus for this album tho and the his albums runs when he was dropping yearly were better
Confetti will always be my fav no matter what he releases my top 5 songs are
1. Rain
2. River road
3.heavy hitter
4. Ghost
5. Goin back down
@@lifewithanecias Ah man mines got to be (in no particular order): Warsaw, Walk In the Park, Heavy Hitter, and Ghost/Rotten they are one fight me lol
It is a big come up for him. He featured some of his favorite artist and is getting the recognition he deserves. Jack is a hard worker and loves rap. He's still young he's going to grow and change right now he's popping his shit. He's on top of the world let him ride this wave. It's a big moment for Jack
And then he'll drop something bigger and better
Yup, plus It took J Cole a while to reach the level of one of the all time greats and there’s still some people who say he’s cheesy, overrated and repetitive. Jack’s not here to please everybody, he’s here to make music for his fans who relate to him. His career ain’t ending anytime soon
No different than Mac's "Blueslide Park" album reception. Dude bounced back and dropped some of best Albums of all time.
Mac really did a 180. Faces is in my top 10 albums all time
That was Macs first album though
@@QuanakatheDon and ts slaps, especially compared to anything Jack Harlow dropped 😭
@@zaydapsychonaut6051 Mac is mad artistic I fw his music heavy Jack is a completely different lane tbh
I don’t see Jack having the raw talent or artistry that Mac did to do this though
When you start comparing yourself with the Beatles before your album even drops there is a big problem
Ikr? I’m like you’re a long ways away from one of the best selling acts of all time in the history of music
The album was pretty solid and will stream extremely well. Jack makes fun music and that's exactly what he did. It's not a top 10 all time album or anything special but who the hell was expecting something legendary from fn Jack Harlow
I think he made everyone appreciate how good Drake is ,and how enjoyable drake's music is , regardless if u not a fan .now people start to notice that ,it's not just about the image.
Drake hard
The experiment hasn't failed, it's just a bump in the road. It's still largely successful, and this negative reception to this one project is being overblown as is common on the internet. It wasn't SO bad that we are gonna keep clowning on it for months to come, if it was then I would say the experiment failed.
His projections dropped from 180k to 109k first week. Bump my ass 😂😂😂😂
@@i_am_gohan9232 If you think 109k is a failure idk what to tell you lol. Thats under performing expectations, not a flop.
@@tylerd1297 it’s a fail if his budget isn’t recouped my boy. It’s business, can’t just sell under expectations by a margin that large. He may or may not be in the red 🤷🏾♂️.
@@i_am_gohan9232 Ok, so then you don't actually know if it hurt his pockets lol. Admittedly, I'm no expert on the financial aspect of music, with streaming and equivalence to album sales. But at 109k, I'm really skeptical that this sunk him. Outside of music he should be doing well with his endorsements/sneaker deal and shows.
@@tylerd1297 yeah I mean we don’t know what his budget was, if he owes anyone.
He’s obviously forcing himself to be a rapper. Nothing about him or his music seems like genuine hip hop.
“What’s poppin is the best thing I’ve heard from him” is a stupid ass take. Truth be told I think most of the takes against Jack are coming from a place of defiance rather than actually solidified opinions. This album was for sure mid but it’s as if every person feels the need to put a spin on their opinion on him so the takes just become inflammatory and unreasonable.
You’re always going to have the dusty dudes who call it fuckboi music and find their reason.
You’re always going to have the people who just started hearing from him so think he’s an industry plant.
And you’re always going to have the white rapper take because the white audience supports tf out of their 1-5 white rappers and we’re all tired of seeing it.
He’s not done with good music in my opinion just think the stardom messed up his trajectory for this album.
💯
Straight facts
How is saying "What’s poppin is the best thing I’ve heard from him" a stupid take when music is subjective? He never said it's the best thing Jack ever made. He said it's the best thing HE's heard from him. Who are you to say that something is wrong just because you dont agree with it?
best take so far
I think it’s crazy unfair to say that this was supposed to his Graduation. He hasn’t even had a Late Registration or College Dropout. He doesn’t make his own beats like Cole or Ye and I doubt he has as much control over his creative direction as that one clip said. Jack is a southern G-Eazy, which isn’t a knock. Jack is cool as hell, and he’ll pop off on features, but I don’t think he’ll ever have a classic album.
G eazy better
@@mrdarkfantasy5857 that’s fine if that’s your opinion. I don’t go out of my way to listen to either one.
@@stevenmoore3381 i feel u brother
@@stevenmoore3381 but g eazy was hard 7 years ago
@@mrdarkfantasy5857 for sure. And I’m definitely not trying to knock G Eazy. Dude has had big records and does numbers whenever he drops. I can see Jack having that same trajectory. Not everybody can be god level. That’s my beef with this video. Dude is trying to say that everyone was expecting Jack to drop an album the level of graduation and in my opinion that isn’t true or fair
Jack has been doing this since he was in middle school, one flop isn’t gonna stop him, he’s gonna keep going until he finally achieves what he wants
This dude was massively hyped
Jack Harlow is so aggressively mediocre, artistically, lookswise, personality, everything. I fully do not understand how that man ever got a career.
*white
You sound like a hater/jealous, to call someone aggressively mediocre for every aspect of their being, how are you even coming for personality as of you know him? Peak parasocial behaviour
@@Dontezbryant777 so you’re saying white people are mediocre????
@@bbailey3055 you said that not me 🥱
I can say the same about the majority of mainstream rappers.
Bro at least 5 of those songs where just absolute fire idk what your talking about still I’ve been a subscriber for a while and it’s good to hear your opinion
" Woke up to Honkees sounding like me
Never be as good
Never be as good"
I mean..... Facts
Damn just 5 months ago y’all said he replaced G-Easy cuz of how “real” he is 🤭
That's a fuckin lie lmao
Good counterpoint, but it’s worth noting that is eazy to replace G Eazy because he sucky lyrically
A rapper that thinks that the kick drum is the worst instrument tells you all you need to know about him as a artist
I was actually looking forward to his album, but damn is it disappointing. there's not a single song i'll go back to. hopefully jack can turn things around because i think he has talent and a positive message.
He has all ghost writers. He’s an absolute industry plant.
@@ac-ui6gr he has many albums from before he signed so definitely not an industry plant.
@@ac-ui6gr less a plant and moreso inflated by the industry. Getting Whats Poppin on Lyrical Lemonade was the first of that inflationary process.
Yeah, I'm rooting for him, but his artistry needs to catch up to the hype/image.
You’re STILL giving him a chance? lol
If he was gonna turn things around, this was it.
Even if no one reads this comment, just here to say at the end of everyday the only person someone’s art has to impress is the artist. I can tell he’s very proud of this album, he has some of the greatest artist co sign him on this , a few that some who have been in the game for years haven’t even worked with yet. For people saying he’s an industry plant obviously don’t know about him working towards his goal for 10 years already.
Why can't people just make music ?? Why does it have to make it big, just make music because you love it
Cause fame gets you bitches and all kinds of fun
Well many people do but not in hip hop because part of the hip hop culture is flexing your money you made sadly
He’ll be alright. He’ll just move on from music to tv or film
Just thinking that, mark walhberg guy very soon
And then people will say he pimped out Hip-Hop just to jumpstart his career.
@Corporal Feel no way "he's rich" you mean
Sadly he’ll probably be hired at one of the remaining large labels as an exec in the “urban” dept, find more mid artists and the cycle continues
I just don't understand how a upper middle class white kid can have anything interesting to say in hip hop
People acting like jack hasn’t put out a good album which isn’t putting enough respect on his name. He just rushed an album doesn’t mean he should be shunned when he’ll put out a good song in a couple months at most
Lost me at “this project was supposed to be his take care” 🛑
In time
I’ve never heard his music, but because they kept trying to force feed him to me on every black platform I know I knew I would never listen to him. I do not support industry plants!
I hear ya...but I kinda put a lot of the blame on yall though. Cause yall was like the 1st people that said he's the new Drake, so it is what it is.
Jack didn't fail or anything. If his next project is great then he'll be fine. He just dropped one very bad project which was odd because his other projects generally has nice song writing.
The song writting was not at his best here... the album felt rushed...i think he should have only dropped a few random tracks if he wanted just go on the hype flow not a actual album
I am rooting for his next work
Worst rapper I've ever heard.
Y’all criticizing Harlow like he supposed to be next artist of the decade, not too fair. The dudes a whole vibe and Shawn Cee is a dork. Harlow Album is dope
This is what happens when labels rush labels to come with new albums. Artist development is so important.
It’s kinda sad because this is exactly what the industry did to mac miller after blue slide park, I hope jack can keep his head up through all this
Mac had a pretty good production team and musical community, he was gonna grow past his frat rap phase regardless. To me, Harlow is another Marky Mark and will smith. Using rap to get into Hollywood
Not a comparison at all other than the reduced race argument. Mac Miller is a real spitter Jack Harlow will never have bars like Mac Miller let’s keep it a buck
@@troillandford7679 Woah. The Fresh Prince was an actual lyricist. He still has bars.
@@marilynmonheaux plus MAC could produce too...run a label on the side and sign dudes and work with them in the lab etc....much like kanye was doing with his career....imagine JACK doing this with....would be FUTURE JACK/drake clones of the world....big hell naw by most....im just imagining what names to call their lables festival...cheek fest? or fuccboi fest 2023?
This gives me flashbacks of soooooooo many rappers in the early 2000s.
It's unfortunate because Jack, by all measures, does seem like a genuine and chill dude. He just needs to carve out his own identity when it comes to his music and find a way to make what he's saying a little more interesting and unique. Once that happens, he'll be a true undeniable star.
Y’all giving this boy energy. Bet he snaps and starts dropping fire tracks
That would be ideal
When did blacks start talking like hillbillies saying y'all and calling men boys. Lucky you don't meet the real ones
Every song is “I am successful, look how far I’ve come” it gets boring sooo fast
Better times coming for him. He will have an even bigger comeback.
Jack has to come out with a few BANGER singles quick to get the focus back on the right track. Get away from wooing the ladies with this abstract light stuff and come with some heavy 808s and a bravado in his lyrics that make people take notice. If the chatter is there that he could be "the next drake" he needs to be assertive and grab that sh*t.
Follow that up with a concept album that sticks to a theme throughout and release a short film to go with it. An undercover cop in 80s Miami with synthesizer heavy throwback beats - he rocks aviators and a mustache in the short film... or a Blade Runner/Tron futuristic bounty hunter with drawn out chords - he rocks a leather duster with Neo shades in the short film.
Expand the offering to the masses and morph his game into something new.
Yo what’s yo Instagram
I can see that working but he still needs actual bars
You’ve thought a lot about him/this aye 😅
What’s crazy is I can watch any Jack Harlow content like interviews or reels but his music is so mediocre to me
Jack is cool, I think next project has to be a bigger risk though. He doesn’t have to be genre defining or anything but he needs some spice mixed in the pot. More creative beats, different rhyme schemes, different vocal octaves too.
His rapper voice is a voice he puts on. It isn’t the natural way he speaks. You can tell watching interviews with him.
He’s potentially in the best lane to be in rn in hip hop. I rlly hope he shows out next time coming
He’s what people said Logic was, stealing flows, and having no identity. Logic does actually have his own sound tho, it’s borrowed from
The 90s, with the boom bap sound at his core, and it works. I think that’s jacks issue. He doesn’t have a core fan base like Logic, and Logic is biracial, but he looks more white right. I’ve been to a Logic show on his second album in 2016 and the fans really showed up.
I'm gonna be honest. Every rapper after 2014 or so is all hype. It's why you don't hear of many of them with longevity. This generation will never have a Jay z, Kanye, 50 cent, or even a damn MC Hammer. Nobody will remember these guys in 10 years let alone 30.
Kendrick, J cole, JID ring a bell? Just cuz you've checked out of what speaks to you doesn't mean generational talents aren't still being produced
People will remember Cardi B in 10 years, But overall, you're right
Bro what is you on
@@croy1317 Kendrick and cole came out before 2014. JID is a good rapper but has not released anything that has left a mark or pushed hip hop forward.
It seems like all the good rappers are 30+ years old.
The fact that anyone was ignorant enough to think that he was gonna sell more than bad bunny is just funny to me
i hate how the industry tried to push this white boy w no talent, when there is so many talented black artists who get no love.
Lol gimme a break. Theres no shortage of trash black rappers lmao
Public Opinion is also very consequential. I didn’t think “CHTKMY” was a terrible album. In fact, it felt like Jack Harlow’s authenticity was at its peak. This is how he’s always sounded, to me at least. It’s just that the hype is not as swelling as it once was. He’s got Nothing else to talk about.
This is my second video I've seen on this channel and the quality is really good
I'm going to be completely honest here.. but people are being way too fucking hard on this guy. I mean, the album wasn't the AOTY but it was a lot better than people are making it out to be, ffs. It is far from a flop. I feel like people didn't like this dude from the start but couldn't say anything because his likeability and his extremely large and loyal fanbase. Now those guys are just finally starting to unleash on this so called 'white boy', claiming they didn't like him from the start. Saying this dude makes "f*boy music" is just pure jealousy and frankly just plain cringe. Also the reason people liked him is because his laid back flow and told him to never change.. and now people are hating on his new album because he did those exact things..Makes no fucking sense. They shoot you up to the top, only to bring you down afterwards.. I honestly feel for the guy
1000% agree.
Eh, while I agree this album is massively overhated, it is mid compared to his previous albums. Sundown was better than everything on this album.
@@waynesmith7746 I agree with you guys. The album is definiately mid but I'm just saying that I feel like people are starting to hate on him as a person by using his new music as an excuse. They're simply going too hard on him for the sake of it.
Yeah, that's what I see as funny. The "f$&+ boy music" thing, was his appeal, and what made him. Now he's being actively sabotaged by the same industry/ppl, that hyped it. After all the shit about Drake "using" young talent, that "leak" , was definately used, to derail Harlow, and keep Drake, in his spot.
Jack's music is not bad, specially compared to most of the shit that comes out lately.
The problem is people get annoyed when they see someone else blow up and get love. People dont understand where he came from, guys dont know why all the girls love him, rappers dont know why the industry loves him, so people get jealous as fuck.
He gets push online and in social media cause he's carismatic as fuck, and while that works to entertain a certain audience, it also helps to grow a big audience of people waiting to judge him and call him "overhyped". A lot of this backlash comes from resentment: "Why these bitches like him so much hes ugly and skinny, why is he hanging w drake he just popped on the scene, why does he get so much push if he's white". It dont matter though, Jack's fanbase is enough to hold him right for 5 more years, in which he will have time to grow artistically too
Exactly you put it in perfect words
So true. I agree with you
Two words. Industry. Plant. He’s ok. Above average. Not bad.
succinctly stated sir.
@@biggthebarber1 He's not a Plant he's been rapping since Middle School,for 10 years now.He is overinflated by the Industry though
All these dudes talking about Harlow don't have half his network nor his connections, thats all you need to take from this
I can tell Harlow is at a bit of a writer’s block. He’s been at it for 10 years. He just caught on 2 years ago. With 4 charting songs. I say give him some time to come in swinging again yk?
He has to do a kendrick and live life.
@@nonyabusiness2032 is he at the place in his career that he can pull a Kendrick though.
@@jocelyncooper1738 yea, if his core fans happen to agree with mainstream fans that Harlow is getting sloppy or whatever. Writers block is serious. He can be making the same type of music, but say something different. A different perspective.
The reason 2pac is great is because he got to tell other people's stories that he either knew personally or read on newspapers ( Brenda's got a baby)
50 cent tells hood stories some times but when he spits serious topics like "the funeral" he pulls you into the hood.
Harlow has reached his peak. He's famous. Top of the charts...It only goes down from there. He's made it and hes getting comfortable. I recommend he acts in a movie meanwhile he figures out his craft for his next project. That way he stays relevant for a while. He could drop a freestyle, disappear and he'll still be on the radar. Depending how well he plays the industry.
@@nonyabusiness2032 this comments on point
Jack Harlow will step his game up on the next album
I hope so lol
Y'all said the same thing after he dropped his debut
@@derivedfromdesire I listened to his most recent album and it was alright
The caption and intro can’t be more wrong,y’all need to chill and appreciate how good this guy is
The way you pronounced the bad bunny's album tho. I'm latin and I was actually surprised by the great pronunciation
Jack got all the makings of a superstar. He got the connections, the charisma, and the support. And he’s shown that he can genuinely rap and put out good music. I really hope he can bounce back from that because the album was very disappointing.
Only thing he doesn't have is the talent lmaooo
"He doesn't seem like a polished pro yet" uhh he's like 23 and has only been in the game for like 5 years lol
jack has never ending talent, some of the greats drop mid second albums this just wasn’t his sound. that’s what they all say is a phenomenal album and he’ll definitely be back and better than ever that’s a promise
Facts
Spit
The fact he is so new and people put him to such a high standard says a lot. His music is good, not the best but not everyone can be the best.