Today I Learned about Melodious

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  • @Animexdraco
    @Animexdraco 23 дні тому +183

    Melodious have been in the OCG report multiple time since the release of Lede in Japan, I don't understand why many tcg player ignored them until now

    • @johnathanlemus5584
      @johnathanlemus5584 23 дні тому +36

      Because Pendulum.

    • @MiyaoMeow588
      @MiyaoMeow588 23 дні тому +59

      Tcg players dont pay attention to ocg results all that much unless a deck is making a big splash, like tenpai

    • @nigamnation
      @nigamnation 23 дні тому +14

      It's not very well represented in the ocg, it's not like it was a tier 1 deck there

    • @hkwiv8044
      @hkwiv8044 23 дні тому +23

      Coverage of Jp events tend to not show the full picture on Jp deck discourse, and also maxx c not being in the format allows melodious a lot more breathing room and they’re seeing more of a showing than they did in ocg from what I can tell. I remember testing on sims with and without maxx c and it felt quite different since unless you had exactly the right hand trap line melodious is hard to stop, where as with maxx c I’m likely to draw that handtrap before the endboard gets all the way there and have giant card advantage.

    • @strength5149
      @strength5149 23 дні тому +8

      I picked all of these cards up like four months ago, best choice I've made in recent memory

  • @jurischwarzer9877
    @jurischwarzer9877 23 дні тому +78

    So happy someone pronounced bacha right, although it would have been weirder if a German didn't I guess

    • @helixier6629
      @helixier6629 23 дні тому +9

      In Japanese the names are just the real names but they changed them by adding an A at the end in the west 🤷‍♂️

    • @jakob4058
      @jakob4058 23 дні тому +13

      Bacha ist liturally Bach (der Komponist)

    • @szymonsadlo
      @szymonsadlo 23 дні тому +9

      ​@@helixier6629adding A at the end makes them a female version as all the composers they refer to were males

    • @helixier6629
      @helixier6629 23 дні тому +11

      @@szymonsadlo even though it’s a surname that would work anyway 😅 there were women with the surname Bach in Bachs family obviously so idk what they thought they were cooking.

    • @szymonsadlo
      @szymonsadlo 23 дні тому +6

      @@helixier6629 maybe they overcooked it. idk. either way, we have to live with it

  • @7thHourFilms
    @7thHourFilms 23 дні тому +18

    Yuzu finally getting the resepect she didn't get 10 years ago!

  • @lankeysob
    @lankeysob 23 дні тому +25

    Melodious is a good replacement for brave engine. Both end on an Omni-negate, but melodious gets you additional bodies for apo or any other plays as well as not screwing over your normal summon. The engine is broken in Spright. Ostinato makes a vortex dragon, apo for 4, and gigantic Spright(and a top hatter/angel statue once that card comes out) on its own without using your normal summon.

  • @MiyaoMeow588
    @MiyaoMeow588 23 дні тому +39

    I firmly think that Melodious has easy potential to win a YCS, and i mean the pure deck in this instance. Just needs the right pilot and just a tiny bit of luck, i think

    • @KevinGonzalez-hs7so
      @KevinGonzalez-hs7so 23 дні тому +2

      Maybe. The good thing is that with nerfs to other decks eventually, and new cards for the archetype or synergies will make the deck a YCS contender. Idk about now. The person has to be extremely lucky

    • @Dr.Moogle
      @Dr.Moogle 22 дні тому +1

      It needs a pilot along the lines of Jess. What she does with plants is what someone needs to do with this.

  • @TheProgenitor
    @TheProgenitor 23 дні тому +8

    As someone playing Ashened, a deck that MASSIVELY appreciates the ability yo make Banshee without their normal and an apo to protect against nib, I'm very glad Ostinato does not have a restriction :)

  • @heinokunzelmann8967
    @heinokunzelmann8967 21 день тому +2

    I'm so mad I didn't get a Schuberta when the card was cheap together with the rest of the Melodious engine. Should have looked at their fusions a bit better. Now she's 5 bucks instead of 60 cents lol

  • @Shrimp4Gura
    @Shrimp4Gura 21 день тому +2

    I bought all this stuff when it was worth dirt, now 1st Movement Solo is 24$ usd a piece. Aged well for me lol

  • @assumingfrog7944
    @assumingfrog7944 23 дні тому +54

    I sincerely believe pure Melodious and pure Snake Eye are better than Snake Eye with the Melodious engine. You're filling up your deck with 5 awkward cards and hoping you draw into one unsearchable 3 of.

    • @tehy123
      @tehy123 23 дні тому +9

      Refrain is a fine normal

    • @ky...
      @ky... 23 дні тому +14

      @@tehy123 Snash is better

    • @thr33than
      @thr33than 23 дні тому +13

      Entirely correct. Splashing archetypes together almost always creates inconsistency unless they have some kind of type or attribute synergy.

    • @szymonsadlo
      @szymonsadlo 23 дні тому +1

      and if you draw Couplet and Concerto for the opening hand you are literally -2 at the start

    • @therapperbrazilian
      @therapperbrazilian 23 дні тому

      Nah, you're saying sh

  • @afiqazhar99
    @afiqazhar99 23 дні тому +1

    Snake eye diabellstar is actually being played in multiple decklist in OCG, only as one-offs

  • @four-en-tee
    @four-en-tee 23 дні тому +8

    Honestly, this package seems to just be a counter to Promethean Princess in general. It may be worth experimenting with Melodious in a lot of decks this format. If you can banish the Princess out of the GY, that frees up a lot of room to try and take back the board going second.
    More importantly though, this package is incredibly budget. It costs maybe 20-25 bucks? You could also probably still make this work in budget Snake-Eye for those who cant afford Bonfire since the Melodious stuff helps to fill out the rest of the deck.
    I'm probably gonna experiment with this more after i'm done breaking Shining Sarc. That package works really well in Gold Pride PUNK. Ending on Hope Harbinger and either an additional spell or monster negate is such a power trip.

  • @sonicyellow
    @sonicyellow 22 дні тому +5

    I thought this was going to be a discussion of pure, since Josh has said already that he knew the engine was relevant. But then this just looks at the engine again and doesn't discuss the actual archetype?

  • @alphu5
    @alphu5 23 дні тому

    you could also make odd eyes absolute from 2 of your bacha then link it off to any link, then you can sp summon odd eyes vortex to replace the missing Baronne.
    I've been using it for my cubic deck and it can sp summon my starters which is a new thing for cubic since most of the time you have to reserve your normal summon for your starters (Duza)

  • @grodon909
    @grodon909 23 дні тому +2

    Man, I feel so vindicated buying Melodious after I saw some of the OCG tops, while the cards were still pretty cheap.

  • @kevinpingenet8526
    @kevinpingenet8526 22 дні тому +2

    So we talk about YCS Rio and Snake eyes doing some result but not some regionals in the US that are bigger than YCS Rio where Melodious got 1st and 3rd place?

    • @VictorFC
      @VictorFC 21 день тому

      Wich one of them had more and/or better players? We had Jesse Kotton, Reich, Netz, Paulo etc. it's smaller than an European or American YCS (by far), but it's far from being a small or weak event. You simply can't compare it to regionals.

  • @nasch3391
    @nasch3391 22 дні тому +2

    6:53 lol what? where have u been josh?

  • @xCorvus7x
    @xCorvus7x 22 дні тому

    7:42 Are you sure? You cannot Stardust Mirrorjade.

  • @RocciaW2T
    @RocciaW2T 23 дні тому +3

    dio cane esplodooooo

  • @angelcandelaria6728
    @angelcandelaria6728 22 дні тому

    I had someone at regionals use snake eyes diabellstar.
    It was game warping, against Yubel.
    They crystalized all my mons. It was horrible 💩

  • @thatguy-nk5wu
    @thatguy-nk5wu 8 днів тому

    Melodious Runick??

  • @lofiescape
    @lofiescape 2 дні тому

    PLS gimme the sleeves 😢

  • @Kylora2112
    @Kylora2112 23 дні тому +3

    Ostinato is fine to not have an OPT you have to have an empty board. Melodious are also pretty balanced since their big effects are xenolocked to Melodious (Harmonist) and light (Shopina). An 8-card engine to make a Rank 4 without a normal is fine. I want to see how things play out once Snake-Eye gets actual hits (because they're still at like 50% top-cut representation, and that's a huge issue).

    • @hahathatsgreat2
      @hahathatsgreat2 21 день тому

      Wdym? Empty board, activate ostinato, Ash, activate ostinato.

    • @Kylora2112
      @Kylora2112 21 день тому +1

      @@hahathatsgreat2 Okay, you drew into 2. Empty board is restriction enough.

  • @michaelloveless243
    @michaelloveless243 22 дні тому

    D. Barrier kills Branded, Tenpai, Melodious, VV, and Purrely. It's one of the best cards rn

  • @RetroGameDungeon
    @RetroGameDungeon 23 дні тому +3

    No don’t look at this deck, leave it alone.

  • @knowsage2429
    @knowsage2429 22 дні тому

    Thats not a snake eyes deck,that is a handtrap deck

    • @MarioLopez-xs3vc
      @MarioLopez-xs3vc 22 дні тому

      "Pure" Snake-Eye is just an engine to facilitate spamming hand traps so it doesn't really matter.

  • @HeartYgo
    @HeartYgo 23 дні тому +1

    Crazy how people just missed melodious

  • @ShewWoW
    @ShewWoW 21 день тому

    Play melodious for nats!!!

  • @pieromorantearenaza4801
    @pieromorantearenaza4801 23 дні тому

    How does melodious play under nibiru?

    • @donaxygo
      @donaxygo 23 дні тому

      Just open orange light. Fuck i hate that card

    • @narfd.8837
      @narfd.8837 23 дні тому +1

      @@donaxygo You don't even need to do that, just temporarily banish your board with 1 of your fusions.

    • @collingarrison4467
      @collingarrison4467 23 дні тому +5

      You usually make etoile on 5th summon, so you banish your board and if you didn’t normal you just continue, if not then you pass on etoile with hand traps, then of course you have orange light or you can make absolute dragon on 5th summon for vortex.

    • @BloomBox36
      @BloomBox36 21 день тому +1

      Most of the time when you get to Etoile you set scales anyway so you can Pendulum Summon, so you get more mileage out of the board state after nib than what you think.

  • @losifer3867
    @losifer3867 23 дні тому +5

    Today i learned about runick melodious

  • @DarkMagicianMana
    @DarkMagicianMana 22 дні тому +4

    Shame this wasn't a reaction to pure Melodious, it's a better way to properly form an opinion about the archetype.

  • @yuseifudo6075
    @yuseifudo6075 23 дні тому +2

    I love me some pendulums

  • @gimmick4274
    @gimmick4274 23 дні тому

    Wait Where's the runick ?

  • @NinthSettler
    @NinthSettler 23 дні тому

    he gon learn now kekw

  • @simatrix
    @simatrix 23 дні тому +6

    Melodiosa Propaganda

  • @ctusiard9755
    @ctusiard9755 23 дні тому +6

    It's funny when you've stood for a deck while others take it down until they actually realise it's good.

    • @zanekarim717
      @zanekarim717 23 дні тому +10

      Because it really was not good until the new support.

    • @szymonsadlo
      @szymonsadlo 23 дні тому +1

      ​​@@zanekarim717 but also the support was known for a few months before the release and everyone had equal chance to assess how good it may be

    • @zanekarim717
      @zanekarim717 23 дні тому

      @@szymonsadlo are you replying to the correct comment? That has nothing to do with what I said.

    • @szymonsadlo
      @szymonsadlo 23 дні тому +1

      @@zanekarim717 your comment was suggesting that the support just showed up in the tcg without prior notice. of course the deck wasn't good before the support but it was known half a year ago in the ocg and everyone had a chance to decide how good it may be before it actually hits tcg. it's nothing new for me that the deck is good as I already knew that few months ago. and I believe that the OP also meant the same, not the period of time before the support was announced in ocg. the deck was actually trash back then

    • @therapperbrazilian
      @therapperbrazilian 23 дні тому

      ​@@zanekarim717Ostinato is Card since years but in fact, Bacha is new to make her, whatever, this happened too with Fur Hire though, they realized late.

  • @FoxyGamerS2
    @FoxyGamerS2 22 дні тому

    Snake-eyes diabelstar DID see play in the OCG in the short time before they neutered the deck in the banlist. It's cause Road of the king does an awful job at reporting tops so they just pick a random list for the week

  • @ytfsrose1588
    @ytfsrose1588 23 дні тому +2

    Now people say melodious is good

  • @choco699
    @choco699 21 день тому

    Melodius runick?

  • @mattr791
    @mattr791 23 дні тому +1

    From my testing so far melodious pure feels sliiightly worse than vv but i would def go learn the deck because there are a *lot* of easy accidental cheats that you will catch people on
    As an engine imo it sounds better than it really is.. it takes up too much space so you kinda have to play over 40 but the engine isnt searchable and the whole thing is a bit more vulnerable than youd like and the payoff is good but maybe not quite good enough to justify trying to highroll with it

    • @minajmyles2687
      @minajmyles2687 23 дні тому +1

      Vulnerable 🤣 they have a indestructible board

    • @collingarrison4467
      @collingarrison4467 23 дні тому +1

      I think as an engine it is a bit cluncky and awkward, but as a pure deck I think it has the potential to be tier 1, if not tier 2 at least. The deck is pretty nice, but the results may only be from people not respecting it

  • @pablomadrid6962
    @pablomadrid6962 23 дні тому +7

    28 seconds no views? Amazing how the world champ fell off