Target These Second Year WRs 🎯 2024 Fantasy Football
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- Опубліковано 19 чер 2024
- YEAR 2 WIDE RECEIVERS: Josh Norris and Hayden Winks of Underdog Fantasy discuss the top Year 2 Wide Receivers (in Underdog's Best Ball ADP Order) for the 2024 NFL Season. We skip Puka, he's great. Is there a year 2 leap in store for Jaxon Smith-Njigba in Seattle with Ryan Grubb? Why Tank Dell is absolutely not a slot WR. Quentin Johnston in here somewhere. 2024 Underdog Best Ball Mania 5 ADP's are discussed.
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0:00 2024 NFL Year 2 Wide Receivers
3:03 Zay Flowers
9:37 Tank Dell
19:37 Jayden Reed
24:53 Jordan Addison
30:31 Jaxon Smith-Njigba
38:25 Rashee Rice
45:47 Josh Downs
51:06 Dontayvion Wicks
1:00:47 Quentin Johnston
1:07:48 Michael Wilson
1:12:36 Marvin Mims
1:16:08 Demario Douglas
1:18:13 Jonathan Mingo
1:21:10 Jalin Hyatt
1:24:58 AT Perry
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Just wanna say- I have NO issue with you guys going on your "soap box" to talk about non-football things. You are people, we find you entertaining for the PEOPLE that you are, and hearing you talk about non football things just further cements you as people in my mind. I'll watch you guys talk about anything
That’s right. talk more about USC Jayden ✌🏾✌🏾
@tileavenue lol atleast spell his name right bro
I’m starved for content. Otherwise it’s very hard to hear 2 waterboys tear down Rashee Rice and compare him to real actual violent criminals. Must be Charger fans
@@Treday2day yes because there is nothing violent or dangerous about losing control of a vehicle going 100+ mph. I'm a Chiefs fan, born and raised and lived in KC my whole life, and Rashee's actions were embarrassing. But all that aside, I enjoy hearing them talk about real life stuff as well. I watch them for their personality and presentation style. If I just wanted charts and graphs I would go look them up.
@@jlpsaxophonist6119 the entire conversation about rashee rice was negative. Summing him up to not being smart enough to understand the offense early on, he’s just a manufactured touches guy and he’ll never be as good as his rookie year moving forward. Rashee’s racing, crash and leaving the scene is as stupid as it can get. People couldn’t got killed or terribly injured but they weren’t, Thank God. Ray Rice beat his wife to sleep in an elevator, Alvin Kamara jumped somebody. They intentionally assaulted people with intent to severely harm. I’m a Chiefs fan too, born and raised in KCMO. They should’ve just called him a thug and moved on
Dell is a stud and his value has been suppressed by his injury and Diggs. I'd buy him everywhere this offseason. Stroud loves him and he creates separation effortlessly.
He got shot in the leg recently. They picked up diggs for good reason
I'd much rather have Dell in Dynasty than Re-Draft. Such a tough position for Dell to play up to the level he did last year with the addition of Diggs and, breaking his leg late into the year and then getting shot.
Praying for the young man.
@@patrick815 He got lucky and his wound wasn't severe, he's at practice full go with no issues. They picked up Diggs because we needed a vet presence, especially at slot, that can stay healthy unlike Robert Woods/Noah Brown. That was a big thing this FA for the Texans was not overpaying on a bunch of guys who can't stay healthy/available for most of the year.
@@_JohnC_ are you familiar with the term prima-donna. That's diggs in a nut shell.
Facts dell Vs the cb3? 😂😂 he was cooking cb1 and 2s last season
Tank's routes are pure beauty
Ocho Cinco would shed tears. Lol
So are his legs...oh, wait......
Welcome back boys 🤝🏻
Kept refreshing UA-cam hoping for these dudes to post. Appreciate the info 🫡
you guys were the main cog in my drafting machine last year that netted - in a 14 team league no less - Hurts, Kyren, Montgomery, James Cook, DK Metcalf, Nico Collins, Michael Pittman, Cooper Kupp, Jayden Reed, Jaylen Warren, Trey McBride, and Chigoziem Okonkwo. ready to run it back with you guys again here, looking for gems!
I literally googled when yall would be back earlier today happy to see you fellas
Time well spent watching you guys!
Glad to see you guys again. High quality content here.
love these videos - always learn something, and can challenge my thinking
Welcome back! Missed y'all fr
Oh yeah. We back. Finally good YT content returns
Zay Flowers actually had over 900 yards and 6 TDs but they called his long 60 some yard TD back on a phantom holding call. He can definitely be a #1 WR.
He IS a number one and is likely to make a HUGE jump. He made a lot of rookie mistakes last year. He should be getting drafted in the third round and right now is being discounted in the fourth
Zay is nice
Man watching wicks last year was such a treat. The way he roasted gilmore in the wildcard round was *chef’s kiss*
Maybe he becomes a chris godwin type eventually. Good route runner, wins in the intermediate game, and a bully after the catch
I traded odell for him last year and feel like i got away with highway robbery
Welcome back guys hope you had a good vacation! Now, let's get it!
Tank Dell looked his usual self in camp...possibly even quicker. Nuts
It's nice to see national guys notice Wicks. I'm from the Green Bay area and we love him here with what he was able to do with his opportunities last season. He is legit. The only thing holding him back is how much competition is in that receiver room at the moment. It will not be like that forever though.
Everybody talks about wicks, he’s become overrated on other channels. Not knocking him either
@@UrielMartinez-kz1ve yeah now they are. They didn't when the people here in GB have been talking about since his performance last season.
@@taylorvandehey1883 might just be who you listen to then. Other shows i listen to have been talking since November/december
The Jayden Reed thing I don't get. Which of these players would you expect to be more productive than they were last year? Reed? Yes. Musgrave? Yes. Wicks? Yes. Watson? Yes. Kraft? Yes. Doubs? Arguable.
There's no room for Love to have more passing output than he did last year. Where's all this production coming from?
Yall got me hype for taking a flyer on Wicks in dynasty last year
Cedric Tillman....? If you put AT Perry in there, you should give Tillman some love.
58:20 Wicks = RAGING upsjde
Doesn’t sound like the take on Bryce was well researched, critiquing the offensive line this year after we went out and got arguably the two best Guards, Moton and a first round pick in icky
Any chance there has been any progress to underdog being available in Ontario canada in the next couple years? Im sure yall are privy to more information then i could find online.
Now we've gotta see Hayden on the dance floor!
Another great stream, Guys!
Needed this!
TY TY TY for bringing Underdog to Michigan!
Completely agree on tank dell, dude is special
"Somebody got a bag" 🤣🤣🤣
Bro Tank ran a 4.49 and bro said “no way he’s THAT SLOW” 😂
What’s yo 40 baby?? lol 😉
it's a compliment! crazy to see someone play that fast
@@UnderdogFantasyyeah i know lol
I’m just giving you a lil hell 😆
if you watch his 40 time on NFL network, it appears the clock starts late. he looks like he was moving a lot faster than 4.49
He can run full speed and cut at the same time. A lot of players that run 4.3s have to slow down to make breaks.Tank Dell only weighs 160lbs, easily can stop and shift that weight than 220lbs with the same 40 time.
Would I be crazy to trade QJ for Mostert on a team with little rb depth
1) Zay Flowers
2) Tank Dell
3) Jayden Reed
4) Jordan Addison
5) Jaxon Smith
6) Rashee Rice (If he doesnt get locked up)
7) Josh Downs
8) Dontayvion Wicks
9) Quentin Johnson
10) Michael Wilson
11) Marvin Mims
12) Demario Douglas
Tank number 1 by a longshot
Clearly not a long shot,your homerism is showing thru
Zay should be number 1.imo
I think Zay 💐 has a top 3 year 2 season. He is completely locked in as a player and a person. Dont sleep on him or the Ravens this year.
Ha, I also just moved diggs down to tank dell and have been taking Dell. The guy is so good I'm definitely willing to risk drafting someone at 3/4 with WR 1 upside. I think Diggs could just as easily help as hurt that. I agree that diggs will most likely be the slot, chugging a nice safe floor so WR 2/3 with WR 2 upside. He is a manufactured touch guy and Nico and Dell both rush and get open on their own. to summarize how I'm feeling about it so far- Collins WR1/2, Dell 2/3 (WR1 upside), and Diggs 2/3 (safe 2/3 floor) who and how I draft will depend on the how the draft goes but I want a piece if I can get it. For a side note I value K. Allen higher than Diggs this season. I see them as the same role but I think Allen is better despite Texans probably having a better QB.
Agree with Zay flowers never being an elite top 8 wr ppg but he did have a rookie season similar to Devonta smith. And if I remember right he had 2, 50+ yard TDs called back by questionable calls one against the bangles and can’t remember the other one. Think he should be valued similarly to smith though.
To me his is specifically format type
At his peak I can see him getting so many catches overall where if its full ppr he could do Amon Ra type stuff
@@thecarter8700 that’s filled with hopium
@@untilnexttime2923 Ehh 100/1200/8 seems reasonable as long as he stays the 1
I doubt he gets up to Amon Ra's 1500 yards ... But I could be see him being a big time target hog
@@thecarter8700 1200 if he can get his ridiculously easy drops under control. Most of his drops aren't even contact inflicted but just open
Lamar Fed Hollywood a top 10 season in targets and Zay is better then Hollywood
Pick 2. Qj, Dotson or jeudy? Full ppr dynasty
QJ or Dotson. Jeudy has such limited ceiling
I had Puka, Addison, Dell and Tony Richardson. I can keep 2. Whos my second keeper?
Tender Bois back at it!
LOL those Zay lowlights were something 🤣
check out Wicks' 2021 UVA film - better than his final year which featured a difft OC and scheme
Saying a guy peaked in their rookie year is a bit luda
Sometimes I think Hayden bases all his takes off viral twitter vids
Sorry fellas (and ladies) but for a first time re-drafter league player… what’s the difference between ‘standard’ scoring and PPR. How does the scoring metric affect the player rankings, ADP, ECR etc?
Cheers
Points per reception started in fantasy as 1 pt per catch. 1\2 pt per catch is becoming popular.
Texans linemen are so underrated it starts with them
Traded mike evans and a 2nd for dell and a 3rd. Evans is still a monster but took a chance to get value out of him while I had it. Next years draft class isn’t the best either.
I love Puka but he is way over drafted with cupp healthy
You guys are forgetting how long Andy Reid takes to implement rookies into the gameplan. He never throws rookie receivers into the fire. Expect the same slow start from Worthy.
Ever coming to CT?
Zay Flowers/Reed/Downs to the moon...
Because theyre on my dynasty team
No respect for Romeo Doubs. When the Packers needed a first down and in the red zone, Jordan Love looks for Doubs
Hyatt won’t ever be a thing with DJ. He just refuses to throw downfield
Ladd will erase QJ and disagree with the Mims assessment. Mims is good.
I got Zay Flowers, Tank Dell and Puka Nacua last season in May. That's what studying film and being a great player evaluator gives you
Who did you get this year 😂😂
@@bobbybuxani1157 i only had 1 draft pick this season. It was the 2.6 and I got AD Mitchell. I also picked up Tyrone Tracy, Ray Davis, Jalen McMillan, Malik Washington, Jared Wiley and Jalen Coker off waivers
@@bobbybuxani1157 And I got Spencer Rattler
Did I miss you guys talk about drake london?
The fact that my man Gus Edwards was disrespected like he was in the playoff game and
Zay Flowers was critically utilized had this episode Underdog Fantasy Football shouting at me from player 1!
Please study how sneaky Jayden Reed was with touchdowns while at MSU, thank you.
DJ Chark is on the verge of becoming the next Michael Thomas. 🙄
Jayden Reed is that dude fr. Buy him now he won’t get any cheaper
I like the Ravens take. These guys totally missed Isaiah Likely, who is good, but I guess they will have to wait til next season to figure that he is good
Doesn’t make sense for Tank to be a wide out. They have stef and nico. If he isn’t playing in the slot I don’t see him getting as much playing time
Nico can be the ultimate big slot weapon with his yac ability
You out your mind he’s starting on the outside Diggs will play slot
@@TrillCannon Damn I didn’t think about that. Just hard to see Diggs not playing wide out ig
“Getting much playing time.” Are you serious right now!? Let me help you understand this…Tank was a better player than Nico when they both shared the field and had at least a 70% snap count (Tank didn’t play much the 1st 2 games) There can actually be an argument that he is better than Nico.
What nobody talks about is the Packers, who have as good a WR corps as the Texans, in fact, deeper. 5-deep starter caliber WRs. People are soooo underestimating the Packers offense. I think the Packers are going to steamroll some defenses to open the year given their level-10/10 run/pass capability. No defense can stop what the Packers have. It's just a matter of a defense picking which way they will die.
Trey Palmer?
Love the content! But you all keep talking deposit match. Can we get a reload bonus for all your loyal degenerates who have already gone through their winnings from last year 😭🙏?
LFG!! 🔥🔥
I know the Texans got a crowded WR now but I just can't fade Tank Dell he was soo good as a ROOKIE too. Usually you expect guys to be even better in their sophomore year. Would anybody really be surprised if Stroud threw for 5,000+ yards and 38+ tds? This offense is gonna eat
yeah but "sophomore slumps" are real as well. Defenses tighten up and have more film on them to see better prepare. I wouldn't be surprised to see a worse season but most QB's that successful early do. Cj will be great over all tho.
I’d be incredibly shocked if stroud threw for 4200 yards and 30 TD.
lol Puka is too good to even be featured on this video
Not talking more about Rashod Bateman in terms of Zay Flowers is rather surprising to me. All over the Ravens film Bateman looked pretty good he was getting open.
Bateman at least getting OBJ numbers
Any thoughts on Cedric Tillman?
For me i finally gave up on him but not because of him but the situation he is in. Browns have lots of WRs and they just go to waste on that team same thing happened to Austin Watkins. Flacco missed a wide open Tillman 2 times in the end zone in the last playoff game. I think he is really good but i just didn't have the patience with the situation he is in. I have the same situation with Hyatt so i finally gave up on him to. I was still able to get some good undrafted players for them after my draft that i felt had some upside. But it wasn't a easy decision for me to make.
@@joematty1353 I'm actually trying to trade for him, but don't know at all what to offer
@@sam.dowell I never offer anymore. I always ask what are you looking for and take a look at my players and future draft picks and then go on from there. Seems to work out better this way.
I never offer any more. i just ask what would you want for him and have him look at my players and future picks and then take it from there. I found that this works better and saves time.
@@joematty1353 yeah, I try that but I find many league mates are all over the place.
Just book it to my veins.
This vid makes me so much more sad about the fact that the chargers being only one spot away from having JSN last year… would have been elite with Herbert
As most of your true watchers are saying- Soap Box it up Anytime you guys see fit! Don't hesitate, that's a major reason why I watch both of you because you guys look at so much data but only inform us what you found important & why. Then you bring it all together, I think that's a major reason most of us(the every video viewers) love watching the content you guys do. So many FF creators either just echo what everyone else is already saying or only give data or clickbait. You both offer the information, let us know why you thought it's relevant & then bring all the pieces together. Most of us are not casual NFL fans obviously but I also never feel like my time is wasted or that your just trying to keep a topic going for the sake of time & $$.
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Also those 8 felonies compared to 1 are as big a difference AS a parking infraction compared to 1 felony. With 1 you can go to trial, compromise on punishment, plead out to lesser charges or a light sentence, there's a lot of ways 1 technicality could clear you. But when they file 8 it's because they -can show a court evidence for each of those 8 different counts - they are betting on some getting dropped or reduced but that there's plenty more that will likely stick -They have no intention of letting you off lightly(doing someone a favor) or they wouldn't burden themselves with the paperwork & time that 8 different felonies is going to take in each stage! This is all stuff from reddit...or the internet.... I have no personal experience with this stuff.... 😏 AND he's not going to be able to send his lawyer to show up for him in most or all of the court dates, they'll make him show up to as many as they can require.
As a Packers fan when these guys hype up our WR4 so much I start thinking Super Bowl
Keep Travis Kelce or Zay Flowers in a 5 keeper league full PPR, Already keeping JT, Olave, Metcalf and London
First in completion percentage over expectation over that period? Never understood the hate that Geno Smith gets. Just seems like take lock or primacy bias.
Geno ain’t shit. He only good when shot is easy. Turns into a pumpkin against pressure and good defenses
I think Watson won’t stay healthy, and Wicks will take his job.
Third!
Agreed
Don't ever apologize about talking non-football things when you feel the need. What made Matthew Berry popular on his come up wasn't his rankings, it was his writing and his personality. Let your personalities shine man, unapologetically.
Also, I was a Nico Collins glazer for 2 years and I'm now glazing Wicks, he will emerge as a top 10 WR in the next 2-3 years.
jayden reed will finish top 12
you misspelled dontayvion wicks
@@dansmith498why do people think wicks is better when he had less than half the top 24 finishes? And only 1 inside the top 12 compared to Reed 4 times. The packers have made it obvious they like Reed more. The Hopium for wicks is out of control because people are looking for a Puka or tank Dell.
You tried, expenged bengle dangle. But prollt not enough
Yall sound completely clueless when it came to Demario.
Downs and Demario do the same shit.
Glad to hear the reasonable take on Rice. It blows my mind that most of the best ball industry is calling him undervalued. There is real risk he misses a ton of time - and not to mention, his mind is not on football and improving his game this offseason. He is likely regressing due to the distractions, and was already not a super talented dude. He was the least bad option Mahomes had at WR, and now he has Brown and Worthy to work with, both of whom are more talented than Rice.
Jayden reed is massively overrated. Averaged less than 70% of snaps even when Watson was out. No way he scores 10 tds again this year and without that his stats basically match Josh downs.
Tank dell plays like a god damn wildman I don’t care about that injury or gunshot wound this man is playing with boys watch him have a top 10 wr season he’s better at getting open than Pukea you are never gonna get that value again trust and believe
Stefon Diggs lost a step of deep speed but he is still better than Tank Dell.
Why does everyone think Mark Andrew’s is gonna do well? Dude hasn’t done much last couple of seasons and he always gets injured.
Andrews has never had a bad season. Last year was the first year he missed significant time for injury so he does not “always” get injured
Tank Dell is only 165 pounds. Of course he got hurt and he will get hurt again. Everyone that hits or falls on him is at least 35 pounds heavier. I would sell high on him before he gets hurt again..
Tyler Lockett has had a long and prosperous career.
Dell is young and hopefully will learn to avoid taking hits.
I mean he broke his lower leg
He didnt get concussed, break his ribs, or get a shoulder injury
It was a freak injury that had nothing to do with being small
What does getting concussed, breaking his ribs or injuring his shoulder have to do with size?
@@TheBorderJumper17 Locket has 20 pounds on him.
Found the rashee rice segment very interesting.
The Seattle take tho I’m going to pump my brakes on. Geno Smith is ASS whenever he plays a good defense. He might lose his spot to Sam Howell
And you’re going to miss out on the Zay Flowers break out bc he’s being UNDERdrafted. A thousand yards and double digit touchdowns coming for him. Second year in this offense with no more Odell stealing targets.
I didn’t know what to do with Green Bay receivers and you guys just solidified that for me.
I got a lot smarter after watching this even though , like I said, I disagree with the flowers take. He’s the best in this class outside of Puka and his production will be the best outside of Puka. Tank dell can’t break tackles and has too much target competition. And Geno Smith is ASS against good competition.
A lot of times people forget certain traits about players that can’t be explained in analytics. Either that or just haven’t played football before. Flowers is a DAWG. Tank Dell can’t break a tackle but is definetely crisp.
Tank dell can’t break a tackle if his career depend on it
But he damn sure can make em miss