Love this channel. I personally work with ISF calibration and this feels like the only place where you can actually learn new things, tips and tricks on how to improve video calibration and get deeper information about some of the new improvements out there. Enjoying the new OLEDs for this year but I still think both ZD9 and DX900 crush the competition, especially when it comes to proper HDR.
That's what happens when you get mesmerized by someone holding a magic remote and talking with their hands. You landed up in a hypnotic state from the beginning.
I’ve still got this 2017 Oled she’s still holding up no burn in to date. I don’t feel the need to upgrade as the picture is perfect in my humble opinion.
Thanks for the video. It answered some important questions for me. One question about the OLED light menu which was "repurposed for APL" according to your video. If this is so, what is the best way to hit a target light level (ex. 100nits for SDR and 540nits for LG's recommended setting for HDR), does this control still work to properly set luminance?
Good video. Should the calibration be different for non hdr content, hdr simulation and actual hdr content? Some have reported that for hdr content you need to turn the contrast all the way to 100 and down with non hdr content. Thoughts? Thanks in advance.
Hi Vincent, I have a question; what do you recommend to do with the Sharpness setting for all the different picture modes (SDR, HDR, HLG, DV)? I've heard Sharpness 10 is actually the correct value to use if you don't want to artificially sharpen the image but also not to desharpen/blur it, and that the latter would be the case when you set Sharpness below 10. Is this correct?
Excellent video ,can you please tell me if you already test this tv with Apple TV 4K about the HDR and more important the dolby vision not many tvs have a dolby vision on the market but this one is one of them ,because iTunes is showing more and more dolby vision movies than HDR please share your opinion thank you...
Thanks for the really detailed analysis Vincent. Nice to see Auto option available for Color Gamut, have you checked if same is available for Black level?
I don’t understand, why don’t any of these TVs including Dolby Vision TVs just come calibrated for the directors intent? Most modern Apple devices come calibrated for proper color, why can’t these TV companies do it too? Their basic job is to show movies and they can’t do it correctly. It’s like the TV manufacturers think their settings are better than the directors? Same goes for their useless high Hz made by a chip using morphed frames.
Because the calibration depends on the specific environment you put it in i.e the room. Every person will have different calibrated results depending on the ambient light, and sometimes the height of the tv (viewing angles). So that's why you pay for a calibration to come to YOU.
Hey Vincent - could you possibly post the settings recommended for this TV somewhere, or even in the description section? Apologies if this exists some place else already
Hey Vincent, I recently got the LG OLED E7. I was thinking about getting it calibrated and was wondering if my minor screen burn would get In the way of calibrating?
Thank for this video. I actually just picked up the b7 and the sony x900e and I'm trying to decide between them. Clearly the B7 has better contrast and black levels but I'm finding the sony has better color when watching mp4 movies on my pc. Especially older movies. I'm wondering if theres a way to get richer color out of the b7 because I'd rather keep it since the technology is clearly superior. The sony also appears to have better motion handling especially with the software image smoothing or soap opera effect. The sony makes it look very natural and with the b7 the motion looks unnatural and I was noticing artifacting around objects. Like for example watching stranger things a girl was skateboarding in the middle ground of the image and she had large blurry edges on the edges of her body.
do you have any post/blog about calibrating the LG OLED C7? Do you have any recommended picture settings? I have my TV in the living room with lots of natural light coming in during the day.
If this is the short settings explanation then the long with the full review will be a 45+ mins vid, so cool :D I like that you can tell the point without pointless talking. And good to see the DV game mode as well
No doubt this TV has one of the best picture in 2017. I have a C7P now after going through various professional reviews like this one in this video. But I am now skeptical about the negative reviews such as reports on pixel-burn-in (permanent) and picture-retention (temporary). Is there a reason to worry? I still have the return window available before it is too late. Please suggest.
Hey Vincent is there any way to save all settings including all sub menus etc as a user profile save in any of the up coming 2017 models?? Why i ask is that i hate when i calibrate a TV to the way i like it then find out later someone has been fiddling around messing things up, drives me nuts having to remember what i did before. User settings PIN would be cool, please forward my feedbk to cheers.
2 questions...how is the OLED TV connected to it's soundbar? HDMI still? Can you simply connect the TV to an A/V receiver? I ask because some reviewer said YOU MUST USE the soundbar. Which i think is an idiotic move if true.
thnx for the vid and the more in depth look // only thought the background music to be a little bit too present // or maybe thats just me dunno // otherwise keep up the works thnx !!
I bought the 2019 LG OLED T.V. and N.F. S Heat will not run on it...anyone know why? I have all up to date drivers and using a 2060 H2O cooled Nvidia card, along with 32 gigs of DDR4, and A Ryzen 2700 c.p.u.. All of my other games except for this one. The T.V. I had prior to this was a Samsung 1080...big step up with the L.G.. Thanks
Based on what I've read, the 2016 models will get HLG. No technicolor. This video is the first I've seen of a DV game mode. No mention of it coming to 2016 models. I've got a C6, and with the new Mass Effect being in DV (PC only platform confirmed so far) a game mode for DV on the old models would be really nice.
When my lg tv screen uk6400 is white, i can see diferent color temperature in some big spots.Cold clouds(light blue) and very warm( yellow) in the moddle and up .I could not manag to calibrate that.Still there... If anyone can help?
Thanks for this very informative video but can you please tell me why the tv looks so bad in this video?It's like 70% white blur and the colors look pale and washed out.
The room in which we filmed this was very dark. So we had to increase the exposure of our SDR camera to make the presenter visible, but in doing so the TV looked washed out. It wasn't like this in real life.
I think the active hdr feature works pretty good, why switching it off just to "preserving the artistic intend" if the picture looks better (no clipping highlight and preserving shadow details) with it enabled? I mean it simulates dolby vision, so it can make up for the boundarys the producers have to struggle with because of hdr 10's static metadata.
I have a 2016 oled and some movies in hdr look so dark and dim so I set dynamic contrast to low which helps brighten up the picture. The downside is that you lose color accuracy. Skin tones might look a little more pale.
The complexities of HDR are turning me off. There's been so much talk about Dolby Vision, HLG and Technicolor, yet have any Dolby Vision Blu-rays or actual HLG broadcasts even been announced?
Could you measure this and make a video about it because lots of people are confused by you tell us to choose auto/normal instead of wide when dolby vision is set to wide.
I'm pissed off we are at 4k hdr and dolby vision and can't even for the most part get past 720p broadcasts smfh tek keeps advancing and most content will not very fucking sad and makes all tvs no matter what they are technically overpriced
Out of the box in SDR Standard mode is the most natural looking. Dark Mode needs alot of tweaking, otherwise you lose lots of colour and it's too dim even for a dark room.
just download potplayer.daum.net/ this player. It uses the same 3D decoder as LG, so you get the same quality 3d playback from 3d Movies (from 3D blu-ray or 3d movie files, sbs or OU). Set 3D output to row inteleaved and use polerized pasive glasses, and the you get 3D on 2D screens. Then you can enjoy youre 3D BD arcive.
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It has the same picture as the 2016 models. There isn't a picture difference between this years models and last years. I have a 2016 LG 65C6.
Awesome, thanks! Do you know if you can turn the screen off in any app, or only in the music app like they show in that demo? Sony makes it super easy with a remote button that allows you to turn the screen on/off at any moment.
LG OLED are burn in prone. Had mine since March 2017 and it has burn in. After research, I found that many others are experiencing the same. LG will not cover it. Purchase from another company
Attila theHun Yeah, well, that was 2 months ago, before I learned about things like Black Frame Insertions, Full-Array Local Dimming, EOTF, clipping, artifacts, judder and all that jazz, thanks in no small part to this gentleman here, he and a couple of other reviewers are among the few that know how to break down complex concepts for the average TV enthusiast. And there's immense value to that when it comes to choosing your equipment, hence the upvotes and subscription.
TotalFreshness I got the lg c7 and the Sony a1e also will be testing the Panny when it comes out I bet the Panny will have the best picture quality but so far lg and sony equal picture less imput lag on lg but better sound on the Sony but Panasonic is known to be more high end picture wise and usually sound wise so I can't wait to try the panny
Love this channel. I personally work with ISF calibration and this feels like the only place where you can actually learn new things, tips and tricks on how to improve video calibration and get deeper information about some of the new improvements out there.
Enjoying the new OLEDs for this year but I still think both ZD9 and DX900 crush the competition, especially when it comes to proper HDR.
I am more confused about calibrating my 2017 LG OLED than I was going into this video!
That's what happens when you get mesmerized by someone holding a magic remote and talking with their hands. You landed up in a hypnotic state from the beginning.
I’ve still got this 2017 Oled she’s still holding up no burn in to date. I don’t feel the need to upgrade as the picture is perfect in my humble opinion.
Thanks for the video. It answered some important questions for me.
One question about the OLED light menu which was "repurposed for APL" according to your video. If this is so, what is the best way to hit a target light level (ex. 100nits for SDR and 540nits for LG's recommended setting for HDR), does this control still work to properly set luminance?
Good video. Should the calibration be different for non hdr content, hdr simulation and actual hdr content? Some have reported that for hdr content you need to turn the contrast all the way to 100 and down with non hdr content. Thoughts? Thanks in advance.
Hi Vincent, I have a question; what do you recommend to do with the Sharpness setting for all the different picture modes (SDR, HDR, HLG, DV)? I've heard Sharpness 10 is actually the correct value to use if you don't want to artificially sharpen the image but also not to desharpen/blur it, and that the latter would be the case when you set Sharpness below 10. Is this correct?
Excellent video ,can you please tell me if you already test this tv with Apple TV 4K about the HDR and more important the dolby vision not many tvs have a dolby vision on the market but this one is one of them ,because iTunes is showing more and more dolby vision movies than HDR please share your opinion thank you...
Will this year's Sonys get the Technicolor update? Thanks.
awesome detailed video. I have subscribed. Question, have you been able to see the LG UP970 4K Bluray player?
Thanks for your kind words. No not yet.
Thanks for the really detailed analysis Vincent. Nice to see Auto option available for Color Gamut, have you checked if same is available for Black level?
I don’t understand, why don’t any of these TVs including Dolby Vision TVs just come calibrated for the directors intent? Most modern Apple devices come calibrated for proper color, why can’t these TV companies do it too? Their basic job is to show movies and they can’t do it correctly. It’s like the TV manufacturers think their settings are better than the directors? Same goes for their useless high Hz made by a chip using morphed frames.
Because the calibration depends on the specific environment you put it in i.e the room. Every person will have different calibrated results depending on the ambient light, and sometimes the height of the tv (viewing angles). So that's why you pay for a calibration to come to YOU.
Stroop because that way you can spend another $500 to have your tv calibrated my a professional lol
Hey Vincent - could you possibly post the settings recommended for this TV somewhere, or even in the description section? Apologies if this exists some place else already
Hey Vincent, I recently got the LG OLED E7. I was thinking about getting it calibrated and was wondering if my minor screen burn would get In the way of calibrating?
Thank for this video. I actually just picked up the b7 and the sony x900e and I'm trying to decide between them. Clearly the B7 has better contrast and black levels but I'm finding the sony has better color when watching mp4 movies on my pc. Especially older movies. I'm wondering if theres a way to get richer color out of the b7 because I'd rather keep it since the technology is clearly superior. The sony also appears to have better motion handling especially with the software image smoothing or soap opera effect. The sony makes it look very natural and with the b7 the motion looks unnatural and I was noticing artifacting around objects. Like for example watching stranger things a girl was skateboarding in the middle ground of the image and she had large blurry edges on the edges of her body.
Does this tv show ST.2094 in the gamma settings when playing Dolby Vision content? Thank you for your answer.
Hi Vincent. I'd appreciate if you can estimate a date when the w series tv's is coming to Southamerica...
How did you access the dobly vision settings on the tv I have that make trying to access it any help?
If you where to compare LGs 2017 OLED tv´s and compare them with Samsungs 2017 Qled what would you chose? What is the better choice?
do you have any post/blog about calibrating the LG OLED C7? Do you have any recommended picture settings? I have my TV in the living room with lots of natural light coming in during the day.
www.avsforum.com/forum/40-oled-technology-flat-panels-general/2784185-2017-lg-c7-b7-owners-thread-no-price-talk.html
If this is the short settings explanation then the long with the full review will be a 45+ mins vid, so cool :D I like that you can tell the point without pointless talking. And good to see the DV game mode as well
this is so imformative. Tyvm for sharing this. My hdr lg pops now and so much clearer :-)
Has the LG 2017 OLED TV´s (B7) gotten Advanced Technicolor HDR (not talking about the Technicolor picture mode)?
what's the best setting for a lot of fast moving object video like football and racing cars? trumotion settings de ju and de blur
No doubt this TV has one of the best picture in 2017. I have a C7P now after going through various professional reviews like this one in this video. But I am now skeptical about the negative reviews such as reports on pixel-burn-in (permanent) and picture-retention (temporary). Is there a reason to worry? I still have the return window available before it is too late. Please suggest.
Is there a way to disable HDR/DV on this set?
Fantastic preview!
Hey Vincent is there any way to save all settings including all sub menus etc as a user profile save in any of the up coming 2017 models??
Why i ask is that i hate when i calibrate a TV to the way i like it then find out later someone has been fiddling around messing things up, drives me nuts having to remember what i did before. User settings PIN would be cool, please forward my feedbk to cheers.
There is a PIN code that's given to ISF calibrators like ourselves to lock the ISF Day & Night modes.
2 questions...how is the OLED TV connected to it's soundbar? HDMI still? Can you simply connect the TV to an A/V receiver? I ask because some reviewer said YOU MUST USE the soundbar. Which i think is an idiotic move if true.
thnx for the vid and the more in depth look // only thought the background music to be a little bit too present // or maybe thats just me dunno // otherwise keep up the works thnx !!
Where can I get these video files that you are playing via USB?
Please clarify OLED light further 8:30 and what most appropriate settings/use are for OLED in non-HDR and HDR.
DCUPtoejuice hdr oled should Be 100 sdr should be around 16
Does LG OLED TV 920T has firmware upgrade to support Dolby Vision?
I bought the 2019 LG OLED T.V. and N.F. S Heat will not run on it...anyone know why? I have all up to date drivers and using a 2060 H2O cooled Nvidia card, along with 32 gigs of DDR4, and A Ryzen 2700 c.p.u.. All of my other games except for this one. The T.V. I had prior to this was a Samsung 1080...big step up with the L.G.. Thanks
When watching an UHD with Dolby Vision on the disc, does the LG auto switch to Dolby Vision?
Hi are you able to tell me how to get dolby vision on my E7? Thanks
How do you access Dolby vision on your LG 2019 models?
What is the best, most accurate mode to watch TV shows and Netflix without calibration?
Does LG OLED need a break in period before setting up final settings? I heard 100 or 200-250 hours were needed.
Anyone?
Any calibration settings on lg oled w7 signature???
Why is HDR 10 set to Auto Colour Gamut while Dolby Vision is set to Wide Colour Gamut?
Dolby Vision game mode is intriguing. I have a C6... I wonder (and am doubtful) if they could/would bring it to 2016 models...?
apparently they are bringing hlg, technicolor and all the formats to the 2016 models. It's just a matter of when LG will get around to it.
Based on what I've read, the 2016 models will get HLG. No technicolor. This video is the first I've seen of a DV game mode. No mention of it coming to 2016 models. I've got a C6, and with the new Mass Effect being in DV (PC only platform confirmed so far) a game mode for DV on the old models would be really nice.
When my lg tv screen uk6400 is white, i can see diferent color temperature in some big spots.Cold clouds(light blue) and very warm( yellow) in the moddle and up .I could not manag to calibrate that.Still there...
If anyone can help?
I wonder why in DV mode wide color is the correct setting and in HDR10 it should be set it normal at least on 2016 models
where can i find that dolby vision files?
Vasil Otiuridze could we get them on Dropbox or for download?
Coming right up
Hi bro, can u help me get some of that dolby vision files. Thanks in advance! Cheers
Thanks for this very informative video but can you please tell me why the tv looks so bad in this video?It's like 70% white blur and the colors look pale and washed out.
The room in which we filmed this was very dark. So we had to increase the exposure of our SDR camera to make the presenter visible, but in doing so the TV looked washed out. It wasn't like this in real life.
HDTVTest Thanks for clearing this up for me.I knew it couldn't look that bad.I just wasn't sure what was causing it to look this way.
HDR effect mode
is still the coolest for me
I think the active hdr feature works pretty good, why switching it off just to "preserving the artistic intend" if the picture looks better (no clipping highlight and preserving shadow details) with it enabled? I mean it simulates dolby vision, so it can make up for the boundarys the producers have to struggle with because of hdr 10's static metadata.
Did lois help you write that?
World Discovery who's lois?
World Discovery aaah sorry men, i wasn't in my character :D But no, lois doesn't know anything about that.
Peter Griffin lol
I have a 2016 oled and some movies in hdr look so dark and dim so I set dynamic contrast to low which helps brighten up the picture. The downside is that you lose color accuracy. Skin tones might look a little more pale.
Thanks for making this vid👍🏼
Fantastic info- thank you!
Great info. Thanks !
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HDTVTEST please help.
no 3d what should i do ?
I want TruMotion in "game mode" without any artifacts! Is that even possible?
The complexities of HDR are turning me off. There's been so much talk about Dolby Vision, HLG and Technicolor, yet have any Dolby Vision Blu-rays or actual HLG broadcasts even been announced?
Yes as a matter of fact this year will see the first Dolby Vision Blu Rays come out, starting with if i'm not wrong ,Despicable me!
Is this 4k
Why is color gamut set to wide on dolby vision
Could you measure this and make a video about it because lots of people are confused by you tell us to choose auto/normal instead of wide when dolby vision is set to wide.
I'm confused is this tv 4k?
I'm pissed off we are at 4k hdr and dolby vision and can't even for the most part get past 720p broadcasts smfh tek keeps advancing and most content will not very fucking sad and makes all tvs no matter what they are technically overpriced
cable providers are lazy and don't want to spend money on the infrastructure. I've heard the UK has a better broadcast system than the USA
Out of the box in SDR Standard mode is the most natural looking. Dark Mode needs alot of tweaking, otherwise you lose lots of colour and it's too dim even for a dark room.
I'm very disappointed that LG dropped 3D in their 2017 OLED models. Is it possible they will bring 3D back in 2018?
There have been petitions which have got quite a few signatures already, 10,000 if i'm not wrong. Wouldn't rule it out
I really hope they will bring the 3D back. I wouldn't bet on it, though.
I feel like 3D was just a fad and that it is fading away. I myself was never a fan. It gave me a headache.
3D is bloatware, a gimmick almost no one wants.
just download potplayer.daum.net/ this player. It uses the same 3D decoder as LG, so you get the same quality 3d playback from 3d Movies (from 3D blu-ray or 3d movie files, sbs or OU). Set 3D output to row inteleaved and use polerized pasive glasses, and the you get 3D on 2D screens. Then you can enjoy youre 3D BD arcive.
It has the same picture as the 2016 models. There isn't a picture difference between this years models and last years. I have a 2016 LG 65C6.
Is there a way to turn just the screen off without turning the TV off? I love that feature on my Sony Bravia and would miss it terribly.
Giuliana - WTF would you want to do that for??? Weird! Or did you post that (really) dumb question, just to get a reaction? You got one - Idiot!
Davy Bloggs I sometimes use it when I'm falling asleep and just want to hear tv sound but no bright light. So is not a stupid question.
Davy Bloggs are you off your meds?
They do in fact have that setting in the apps menu. ua-cam.com/video/HdZRCkiKYHg/v-deo.html
Awesome, thanks! Do you know if you can turn the screen off in any app, or only in the music app like they show in that demo? Sony makes it super easy with a remote button that allows you to turn the screen on/off at any moment.
I find that the standard setting is best. I think cinema and this expert setting doesn't bring out the colors.
2017 LG OLED was the best. Why since 2020(dunno previous models till 2017) Dynamic Contrast washes out colors?! -_-
What's the point of buying such an expensive tv and then turn off all the technology like dynamic color and dynamic contrast?
for some reason I cant change my picture mode it stuck on eco mode..grrrrrrr
Sounds like Microsoft computer talking
Nomadic Vet bruh lol why you do him like that man 😂
You didn’t help with any calibration settings at all here.
OLED's crushed blacks still concern me.
wtf! no treaty in 2017 !
Why are all the professionals using wide gamut for HDR? It's supposed to be normal.
talk a bit faster, 1k likes to 39 dislikes, im assuming hes found a way to delete some dislikes
Boy am I confused......
After 50 months I have horrible burn in.
HZ
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Colour gamot 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
LG OLED are burn in prone. Had mine since March 2017 and it has burn in. After research, I found that many others are experiencing the same. LG will not cover it. Purchase from another company
You probably blew your oled light setting out. Don't use 100. I use 80 with isf dark and it's perfect.
Hahahaha! Your voice does not fit in your body.
I'm sorry but this is too technical for an average user, boring even, most people don't care how exactly something works, just how to best use it.
This channel isn't for average users.
toobalkain
Then I recommend other less technical channels, wich there are plenty of.
Attila theHun Yeah, well, that was 2 months ago, before I learned about things like Black Frame Insertions, Full-Array Local Dimming, EOTF, clipping, artifacts, judder and all that jazz, thanks in no small part to this gentleman here, he and a couple of other reviewers are among the few that know how to break down complex concepts for the average TV enthusiast. And there's immense value to that when it comes to choosing your equipment, hence the upvotes and subscription.
toobalkin - so it took you a whole 2 months to engage your brain?
Davy Bloggs I was dropped head first a couple of times and got brighter.
Nah no thanks. I'm going Sony or Panasonic this year.
TotalFreshness I got the lg c7 and the Sony a1e also will be testing the Panny when it comes out I bet the Panny will have the best picture quality but so far lg and sony equal picture less imput lag on lg but better sound on the Sony but Panasonic is known to be more high end picture wise and usually sound wise so I can't wait to try the panny
TotalFreshness they are all good
I bet Sony and Panasonic Oleds have better picture quality and more natural colours.
Саша Фурів All have LG panels.