@@GraveDabooIt's funny cause running these kind of units in the type ESBRs/Vs. Super & Extreme essentially guaranteed you'd die if they got hit since they'd lose their leader skill buffs completely
Disagree with lr cells transformation, it‘s pretty easy to get in stages like esbr where he can potentially transform in turn 2 (if you are under 50% life by chance), Gohans still seems very reliant on android enemy/alls
I kinda disagree with buuhan and cell. Back in the day super battle road was viewed as important to the community, and they both were great in there. I remember seeing all the runs were LR cell could solo sbr. But the year 6 LRs was sooo sad. This was probably one of the last examples of Vegeta shaft that used to be common, now it's villains I feel
Big time shifted into shafting villains out right. There’s comprehensive breakdowns as to why that trend even came to be but I’ve subscribed to the theory and have been ever since… it’s likely they detect which cards or units everyone plays with based on stats and the super characters are just more popular. Straight up. Villains are getting so screwed over. Look at LR super buu. That card is WILD. But it sucks cause the majin team is so bad so if you pull him, great! Good luck using him! For that reason people say he’s bad but he’s not tho
Not stats of the cards or units like the literal statistics of use or frequency of what people put on their teams. People just aren’t using extreme units. Prolly cause they suck but yea😂
Lol 1 is funny ya it’s true but I’m surprised he didn’t mention how the opposite happened with the EZA and how INT Janemba was one of the strongest on release EZA characters in the games history and was useable for over a year afterwards.
It feels so weird doesn't it? I played since pre 3rd anniversary, and janemba being good is so ingrained into my mind that I just remember both of them equally.
LR Cell is still a must run on my villain teams, together with AGL Golden Frieza they become an invincible rotation due how their passives complement each other, Frieza will never lose his damage reduction thanks to Cell. You do have to pray the enemy doesn't Super Attack slot two tho lol
Uhhh.. idk if you know this but agl frieza's passive works off start of turn, as does int cells transformation Essentially if you're transforming with cell the same turn you have agl Golden Frieza you do NOT have his passive because you started the turn below 40% HP and then healed into it
I've been playing for over 5 years but I think the 6th Anniversary LRs and the Super Hero Piccolo and Gohan had the biggest discrepancy between the 2 headliners (can't say anything about the 1st Anniversary units)
As someone who started when og str broly came out I can say gogeta was the biggest from of powercreep in the game, if you didn't have it your account was trash. Not only was he overpowered due to his good stats, but he introduced the super effective against all types which made him good against all bosses. On top of that he had the best leader skill by far. The best ones before him were limited by typing or only gave +2 ki to all allies
@@DavidVillaTorrePeople say this a lot, but having played back when STR Gogeta came out, you were fine if you didn't have him lol. You just made the best team you could and than you rocked him as a friend
@@Yes-yx6uc I also played when he came out. And he dealt so much damage that without him you were taking x3 as much to beat events, and it also made it more likely to die. On top of that he had the best leader skill in the game for a long time
@@DavidVillaTorre I mean, don't get me wrong, if you didn't have him, the game was a lot harder. I still got by just fine though, the original Phy Ultimate Gohan was my lead for a while cause of his 3 ki. You were able to get past most events just fine by using a good lead and than bringing a friend Gogeta, you just weren't breezing through everything like people who were able to rock two Gogetas lmao.
I used to call AGL MUI ultra cheese since if you were lacking a good defense unit in LR EZA stages you could slap him on and he can dodge (well most of the time) without actually needing the required category while STILL LINKING LEGENDARY POWER which is very useful for those kinds of stages.
Same but then I stopped bc even with all my top links from units like lr gofrieza and ssbk and ssbe, it still didn't do good damage so I switched to the GT 8th year lrs Edit: sorry if I'm talking wrong ui. I got the str ui goku😅
It would be good to see a video about 2 characters released at the same time but one of them was much stronger than the other one but when these 2 got a EZA, the other one who was not good on release, is much better than the one who was better on release (i don't know if it's understandable). The 2 i think about that is TEQ Transforming Trunks who was really better than AGL Transforming Zamasu on release but with the EZA, it's Zamasu who is really better than EZA Trunks
But with Gohan building up defense and has a chance to do 3 additional super attacks he just survives a lot longer than cell and is way more practical cells teams kinda suck and he's very squishy in base
For Gohan Cell i would say Cell is more consistent because Unlike Gohan who need a cyborg cell saga to transfom He just needs to reach 40% hp which is way easier to activate sure Gohan have a better 1st form but the 40% hp requirement balance this out and it's as strong as Gohan ssj2 once transfomed
Gohan doesn’t even an androids/cell saga unit to transform, just an android ally or enemy, which is easy to fulfill with the gammas and all the android red zone enemies out
Int cell’s transformation is not RNG reliant, in most hard content it’s pretty easy to get even turn 2-3 And cell > gohan at this point Edit: also lr fpf > ui on release
biggest lie in my life try going below 40 percent in any new red zone stage and be able to live most attacks its a terrible condition now especially with how little teams cell can even be in
For kaioken goku and great ape vegeta, you're missing the fact that the worst esbr and sbr still existed during that time which was the giant form only so vegeta trivialzed it and also complety destroyed other important challenges in the game like the world tornament so just that alone makes him on par with kaioken goku
it's funny that a good amount of them have one unit being wayyy better on release but the other is aging far better, it's the case for vegito/buuhan, gogeta/janemba, muigoku/ssbevegeta and I would argue cell/gohan before eza but cell just didn't have a team to be played on so gohan was better as an overall unit due to categories, seems like dokkan usually knows what they're doing with one unit being better on release and the other aging better but there are too many exceptions for it to be a rule
@@ss.8143 I find myself using vegeta a lot more since the 7th anni, goku can't tank even a normal now whereas vegeta can at least tank with an item against neutral damage and on a teq boss(not double digits but not dying without a super which is enough for me), his revive is also a lot (LOT) more consistent and easy to get compare to goku which matters a lot when he's the only revive of the team and you either don't have an item to use or you're not on a teq boss, when the 7th anniversary came out, him being on power beyond super saiyan was a huge deal, I remember beating cell max for the first time with him and he was clutch in this run, I truly believe vegeta aged way better
@@julesm5892 nah, mui goku can dodge super attacks, and if you build him with full dodge then you will almost always dodge. The thing that sucks about vegeta is that he gets his damage reduction AFTER getting hit in the SAME TURN, which is a terrible condition. Meanwhile, goku has unconditional 70% dodge, and even if you get super unlucky and get hit, he'll usually not immediately die
@@RecruitMeat Build him full dodge??!! he already has enough, it's full additionals and then dodgeif you want to or crit for the active, you're the type of guy that puts 3 dodge on everyone? cause that doesn't do anything. Back to the topic, goku does die from 2 hits and puts you in a really bad spot after taking one where even your tanky unit usually dies from a super so yes if he gets hit you die, vegeta on the other hand will take like ~100k from the first attack, then decrease by 40k until double digits if you use an item or are on teq( just tested it on stage 4 of future saga red zone on 200% lead), without this it's ~300k, imagine goku, both die on super but goku has dodge, on that he is better, also he is on goku ssj4's team so with the 70% def support from standby vegeta can even survive ( not tank, survive) without an item which is important to me, I'd rather pick my stage and/or use an item than take a complete gamble and maybe waste a try, modeling your gameplay around using a whis isn't so bad considering how short stages are nowadays whereas goku takes ~250k even with an item if you don't dodge and I'd rather not rely on luck, vegeta being more consistent is imo better ( revive is really important too, very possible scenario: use whis 1st turn, use whis 3-4 turn, get revive on like turn 6-7 and finish the boss next turn)
@@RecruitMeat I just realized, for his build, since he has special equips it's not a good idea to go all the way for dodge because you can "only" get 15 and maybe 20 with a silver equip which makes his dodge go from 70% to 76% if i did my maths correctly ( could be wrong) which is so insignificant compared to the damage an additional attack provides, knowing it's a guaranteed crit too, just why put full dodge??
There’s nothing that makes me more mad in this game of when they make such cool active skill and animation, just for them to be locked under ridiculous conditions
I think I just thought of the best way they could've done a Beast Gohan back when Fraudhan came out... Do it like Piccolo. A rage mode where Gohan goes beast for a few turns, where he can't take damage. his normal super attack could be the kick, and his Ultra super attack could be the Special Beam Cannon
8:34 is this really the reason why they never released any other extrem chars for anniversary? if so that a really stupid reason i am 100% sure if they made a busted extreme character everybody would summon for him but if they put all their budget and ideas into super units no wonder nobody is going for the extreme banner if the unit sucks compared to the super counterpart
- cell transformation is way easier than gohan - great ape vegeta was better than goku since day 1 (but people only think about damage for nothing, str super vegeta "best character in the game" is the proof)
I like Phy Ultimate Gohan and Teq Great Ape Vegeta. I run double Gohan leads for my Super Heroes team with Teq God Goku & Vegeta, Int Pan (Kid), Str Trunks (Teen) & Goten (Teen), Teq Super Saiyan 2 Gohan (Youth), and Teq Piccolo (Power Awakening) and I just shred nearly every event I go into. Vegeta on the other hand I run on my Saiyan Saga team with Phy Goku & Piccolo leading, and Agl Nappa/Vegeta, Phy Goku, Teq Yajirobe, and Phy Krillin. It's not as good as my Super Heroes team but they still wreck shit in most places I take them.
see, the thing with the gohan and cell release they kept both lore accurate which means gohan gets a transformation after being beat up a bit but cell gets his own form knocked out of him and with gohan having a slightly worse beating and cell a worse one, of course it's 40% hp
Top 10 most scuffed releases 10. Super TEQ Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta (GL) 9. LR Extreme AGL Babidi and Dabura 8. Extreme PHY Raditz 7. LR Extreme TEQ Super Saiyan Broly (GL) 6. Multiple Celebrations (1st Year Anniversary, Super AGL Super Vegito and Extreme PHY Legendary Super Saiyan Broly, 2nd Year Anniversary, Super INT Super Gogeta, and Extreme STR Super Janemba) 5. Worldwide Celebration rewards Super INT Super Saiyan Goku and Super TEQ Super Saiyan Vegeta 4. Super TEQ SSJ4 Gogeta and Extreme PHY Omega Shenron 3. Extreme STR Super Saiyan Rosé Goku Black 2. Super PHY Super Saiyan Kefla (JP) Honorable mention: Super TEQ Super Saiyan Blue Goku over Extreme AGL Syn Shenron on French version of Extreme STR Super Saiyan Rosé Goku Black banner (GL) 1. Super STR Super Gogeta (GL)
"Buuhan on the other hand was good, but no way near Vegito" Yet Buuhan aged FAR better than Vegito could ever dream of, lol. Edit: Piccolo's release should be convincing enough that even though Gohan was the top banner of the celebration, the celebration wasn't about Gohan, it was about Piccolo, and Piccolo is still nowhere close to being dethroned as the top LR in my opinion. His tanking and Giant form is just too powerful. So much so they actually NERFED his Giant Form for the Divine Wrath and Mortal Will's event.
Copium. Vegito aged better 10 turn scouter and heal on transformation. And damage reduction pre transform. I beat red zone omega with them when the early red zone came out
Cell was better. Buu was better as well. Dude was getting to 400k+ def in sbr, far beyter than vegito. He never took damage. Ui goku was the 2nd best unit in the game, phy buu takes no damage in the god event as to where ui goku had a chance to not take damage
Cell was easier to transform, and as strong as gohan, remember this guys hits 1 million def and 21% damage reduction when transformed, while hitting 24+ Mil Gohan and Cell are different but equally strong imo
Uhh no Gohan only "tanked" because he's int. Gohan gets demolished in the new hard-hitting content because he can't keep up with defense, and once his guard is gone, he becomes a hindrance to the whole team and his ability to get ki sucks so bad plus your relying on additional to build his damage. All in all, Gohan isn't keeping up with difficult content.
@SnailSnail-lo4pm u can't debuff vegito that much without taking a huge amount of damage. You have to build up those stacks for it to start taking effect. Plus, zamasu only throws 1 out per turn and it doesn't take but 2 maybe 3 turns to kill off that phase
Tbh buuhan was better than str vegito in my opinion. I know that might be a hot take but vegito was just too underwhelming to me even though I had both 100% and even then vegito would be a glass cannon while buuhan would easily heal and block pretty much anything. But that’s just me 😅 also his counter wasn’t really all that to me unless it crit tbh which is also an rng thing cause it isn’t guaranteed.
@@lordpatrickcalvin6759 He is really good agains that rose RZ,It is like they made It for him,bro has guard and nulification agains phase 1 and type advantage agains phase 2
Cells transformation isn't too hard but can be different at times but funnily enough I actually think Buutenks is better than STR vegito as of rn due to his stacking though it could be because my buutenks is rainbowed
having a scouter on means that you can see where the enemy is going to super attack. It's good if you want to prioritize putting a tanking unit in front of supers. however, it's not as overpowered as this youtuber is making it out to be. Str super vegito has no damage reduction and get clapped in any difficult content
Let's be honest, whenever Dokkan releases a new Goku and Vegeta at the same time they purposely go out of their way to make the Vegeta worse. It's bullshit really.
@@munguwangu0nah for me piccolo does 1 mil damage with a crit giant forms just suck and are a waste of time I do appreciate the free damage but usually you just do 600k damage
@@munguwangu0 turn 5 isn’t that much turns. Plus u can’t get orange unless it’s turn 4. That’s prettty much 1 turn less. The same condition but 1 turn less pretty much
bruh really you put vegito above buuhan? buuhan literally was the strongest character of the game for a whole years, surpassed only by agl fpf and int goku. vegito before eza never tanked a single attack and took 30k from every normal attack, wym vegito was stronger than buuhan?
9th Anni buts it’s a remake of Str Gogeta and INT Janemba Str Gogeta: Ki+3 HP, ATK and DEF+150%; an additional Hp,Atk, and Def+50% for those in “Movie Heroes” category Intro Passive: All Allies’ Ki+1 and ATK&DEF+20% for the rest of the battle; launches and additional super attack for 5 turns at start of the character’s appearance, ATK&DEF+230% and effective against all types; Def+20% and Damage Received -40% as the first attacker, launches additional attack that has a high chance of becoming a super attack and an additional ATK&DEF+100 as the 2nd attacker, Guaranteed to Dodge all attacks as the 3rd attacker, Recovers 5% hp per attack evaded SA effect: Greatly Raises Atk&def for 3 turn and great chance to perform a critical. INT Janemba: Extreme Class Type Ki+4 HP, ATK & DEF+170; an additional HP+30% and ATK&DEF+50% for those in the “movie bosses” category Intro Passive: Extreme Class Allies’ Def+30% for the rest of the battle; ATK&DEF+50% and Great chance to evade all attacks for 4 turns Guards all attacks and Extreme Class Allies’ Ki+3 ATK&DEF+40%; Damage Received -20%, ATK&DEF+50% as the first attack; ATK&DEF +75% as the second attacker; ATK&DEF+100% as the third attacker, damage received +5%(up to 20%) per attack received. Starting from the 5th turn and onward, nullifies all enemy negative effects(stun,seal, aoe, atk&def lowering, all that good shit) SA Effect: Massively Raises ATK&DEF and greatly lowers enemy attack Just wanted to get creative with the passives, but I’d definitely want the 1st years as remakes for the 9th Anni.
Vegeta/Goku are so cool but to get their revive was nearly impossible 😭
I got it so easily☠️
Did you play a team full of saibamen?
I was so confused because there's so many goku and vegetas. Shoulda said vegeta/goku.
@@StickyzHow can you be confused when the card he mentions is literally the first one in the video???
@@NiceWeatherThatWeAreHaving because it's the top comment. I saw it before the video started playing. Pretty simple.
Moral of the story FOR THE LOVE OF GOD BUFF EXTREME TYPE UNITS
on the first one the extreme is better
@@-rlmnthe extreme class unit that becomes a super class unit
@@GraveDabooIt's funny cause running these kind of units in the type ESBRs/Vs. Super & Extreme essentially guaranteed you'd die if they got hit since they'd lose their leader skill buffs completely
goku black fans are crying in the corner (including me)
@@GraveDaboo The irony lmao
Disagree with lr cells transformation, it‘s pretty easy to get in stages like esbr where he can potentially transform in turn 2 (if you are under 50% life by chance), Gohans still seems very reliant on android enemy/alls
Dont listen to dbzMoe this guy is dokkan world 2.0
@@JERKOFFTOPOMNIdokkan world does showcases without commentary?
@bestiez9083 we found the datruth stan
@@JERKOFFTOPOMNI Dokkan world is the best dokkan youtuber lol
Good point I agree. Gohans ability to block and infinitely stack is nice tho
I kinda disagree with buuhan and cell. Back in the day super battle road was viewed as important to the community, and they both were great in there. I remember seeing all the runs were LR cell could solo sbr.
But the year 6 LRs was sooo sad. This was probably one of the last examples of Vegeta shaft that used to be common, now it's villains I feel
Big time shifted into shafting villains out right. There’s comprehensive breakdowns as to why that trend even came to be but I’ve subscribed to the theory and have been ever since… it’s likely they detect which cards or units everyone plays with based on stats and the super characters are just more popular. Straight up. Villains are getting so screwed over. Look at LR super buu. That card is WILD. But it sucks cause the majin team is so bad so if you pull him, great! Good luck using him! For that reason people say he’s bad but he’s not tho
Not stats of the cards or units like the literal statistics of use or frequency of what people put on their teams. People just aren’t using extreme units. Prolly cause they suck but yea😂
Lol 1 is funny ya it’s true but I’m surprised he didn’t mention how the opposite happened with the EZA and how INT Janemba was one of the strongest on release EZA characters in the games history and was useable for over a year afterwards.
It feels so weird doesn't it? I played since pre 3rd anniversary, and janemba being good is so ingrained into my mind that I just remember both of them equally.
LR Cell is still a must run on my villain teams, together with AGL Golden Frieza they become an invincible rotation due how their passives complement each other, Frieza will never lose his damage reduction thanks to Cell.
You do have to pray the enemy doesn't Super Attack slot two tho lol
So, not invincible at all
I mean my cell (100% I'll admit) tanks as long as I go for the 12 ki and get 1 or 2 add supers, and when transformed he becomes god
Uhhh.. idk if you know this but agl frieza's passive works off start of turn, as does int cells transformation
Essentially if you're transforming with cell the same turn you have agl Golden Frieza you do NOT have his passive because you started the turn below 40% HP and then healed into it
I actually got the revive. Yet since I only got one other copy for them they’re pretty bad
For part 2 of 7th anniversary I kinda expected a Lr super Broly and a Lr omega shenron
SAME MAN 😭😭 I NEED A NEW DBS BROLY
@@SuperSonic3557real
Now we know They will never release villains for part 2 of anniversary
@@IWKS1 They literally did in year 4, 5, and 6. Lol
@@kristopherthompson1342 not doing that no more
I've been playing for over 5 years but I think the 6th Anniversary LRs and the Super Hero Piccolo and Gohan had the biggest discrepancy between the 2 headliners (can't say anything about the 1st Anniversary units)
As someone who started when og str broly came out I can say gogeta was the biggest from of powercreep in the game, if you didn't have it your account was trash. Not only was he overpowered due to his good stats, but he introduced the super effective against all types which made him good against all bosses. On top of that he had the best leader skill by far. The best ones before him were limited by typing or only gave +2 ki to all allies
@@DavidVillaTorreI used to have str gogeta, then I got teq gogeta, those categories helped a ton.
@@DavidVillaTorrePeople say this a lot, but having played back when STR Gogeta came out, you were fine if you didn't have him lol. You just made the best team you could and than you rocked him as a friend
@@Yes-yx6uc I also played when he came out. And he dealt so much damage that without him you were taking x3 as much to beat events, and it also made it more likely to die. On top of that he had the best leader skill in the game for a long time
@@DavidVillaTorre I mean, don't get me wrong, if you didn't have him, the game was a lot harder. I still got by just fine though, the original Phy Ultimate Gohan was my lead for a while cause of his 3 ki. You were able to get past most events just fine by using a good lead and than bringing a friend Gogeta, you just weren't breezing through everything like people who were able to rock two Gogetas lmao.
I used to call AGL MUI ultra cheese since if you were lacking a good defense unit in LR EZA stages you could slap him on and he can dodge (well most of the time) without actually needing the required category while STILL LINKING LEGENDARY POWER which is very useful for those kinds of stages.
Its crazy how good ui goku was, i still use him to this day for some hard content
Same but then I stopped bc even with all my top links from units like lr gofrieza and ssbk and ssbe, it still didn't do good damage so I switched to the GT 8th year lrs
Edit: sorry if I'm talking wrong ui. I got the str ui goku😅
@@AA-ol5vuhes probably talking about AGL mui goku
It would be good to see a video about 2 characters released at the same time but one of them was much stronger than the other one but when these 2 got a EZA, the other one who was not good on release, is much better than the one who was better on release (i don't know if it's understandable).
The 2 i think about that is TEQ Transforming Trunks who was really better than AGL Transforming Zamasu on release but with the EZA, it's Zamasu who is really better than EZA Trunks
I've actually gotten Cells revive by accident more times than intentionally lol.
Babe wake up DbzMoe posted a new vid
I'm awake
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I disagree with Gohan and Cell they both cook after transform and do a fine job pre transform
But with Gohan building up defense and has a chance to do 3 additional super attacks he just survives a lot longer than cell and is way more practical cells teams kinda suck and he's very squishy in base
It’s a shame to see some of these scene man. Successfully get their condition met and complete your run with them is a big achievement to me.
Im so used to hearing JP voices in these videos that Vegeta saying "That's it" actually jumpscared me
2:05 Blue Kaioken wants to know your location
Waiter? Another 2.6B Bue Kaioken attack stat, please.
i think cell is underrated he tanked a 1.6mill sa from metal cooler core for 190k and only with like 8 orbs
For Gohan Cell i would say Cell is more consistent because Unlike Gohan who need a cyborg cell saga to transfom He just needs to reach 40% hp which is way easier to activate sure Gohan have a better 1st form but the 40% hp requirement balance this out and it's as strong as Gohan ssj2 once transfomed
Gohan doesn’t even an androids/cell saga unit to transform, just an android ally or enemy, which is easy to fulfill with the gammas and all the android red zone enemies out
The red cooler is nuts for the sole reason of not only does he have an eza, but he can do it FOUR CONSECUTIVE TIMES
Dokkan hasn't released an extreme class unit for anniversary since....
Till now... "LR DBS BROLY"!!!
(Best anniversary coming ever!)🔥🔥🤘💀🤘🔥🔥
Cant wait for Goku and vegeta transforming to SV EZA fr hype
Int cell’s transformation is not RNG reliant, in most hard content it’s pretty easy to get even turn 2-3
And cell > gohan at this point
Edit: also lr fpf > ui on release
Fpf did everything on release, felt rainbow’d at 55%
biggest lie in my life
try going below 40 percent in any new red zone stage and be able to live most attacks
its a terrible condition now especially with how little teams cell can even be in
Its been 4 years and I just realized that agl lr ssj2 gohan actually cries in his transformation.
I use both TEQ Vegeta and PHY Gohan on Teams 💀
For kaioken goku and great ape vegeta, you're missing the fact that the worst esbr and sbr still existed during that time which was the giant form only so vegeta trivialzed it and also complety destroyed other important challenges in the game like the world tornament so just that alone makes him on par with kaioken goku
it's funny that a good amount of them have one unit being wayyy better on release but the other is aging far better, it's the case for vegito/buuhan, gogeta/janemba, muigoku/ssbevegeta and I would argue cell/gohan before eza but cell just didn't have a team to be played on so gohan was better as an overall unit due to categories, seems like dokkan usually knows what they're doing with one unit being better on release and the other aging better but there are too many exceptions for it to be a rule
will say. mui goku is absolutely still better than evo vegeta. even though both can’t take a hit at all. mui can atleast dodge
@@ss.8143 I find myself using vegeta a lot more since the 7th anni, goku can't tank even a normal now whereas vegeta can at least tank with an item against neutral damage and on a teq boss(not double digits but not dying without a super which is enough for me), his revive is also a lot (LOT) more consistent and easy to get compare to goku which matters a lot when he's the only revive of the team and you either don't have an item to use or you're not on a teq boss, when the 7th anniversary came out, him being on power beyond super saiyan was a huge deal, I remember beating cell max for the first time with him and he was clutch in this run, I truly believe vegeta aged way better
@@julesm5892 nah, mui goku can dodge super attacks, and if you build him with full dodge then you will almost always dodge. The thing that sucks about vegeta is that he gets his damage reduction AFTER getting hit in the SAME TURN, which is a terrible condition. Meanwhile, goku has unconditional 70% dodge, and even if you get super unlucky and get hit, he'll usually not immediately die
@@RecruitMeat Build him full dodge??!! he already has enough, it's full additionals and then dodgeif you want to or crit for the active, you're the type of guy that puts 3 dodge on everyone? cause that doesn't do anything.
Back to the topic, goku does die from 2 hits and puts you in a really bad spot after taking one where even your tanky unit usually dies from a super so yes if he gets hit you die, vegeta on the other hand will take like ~100k from the first attack, then decrease by 40k until double digits if you use an item or are on teq( just tested it on stage 4 of future saga red zone on 200% lead), without this it's ~300k, imagine goku, both die on super but goku has dodge, on that he is better, also he is on goku ssj4's team so with the 70% def support from standby vegeta can even survive ( not tank, survive) without an item which is important to me, I'd rather pick my stage and/or use an item than take a complete gamble and maybe waste a try, modeling your gameplay around using a whis isn't so bad considering how short stages are nowadays whereas goku takes ~250k even with an item if you don't dodge and I'd rather not rely on luck, vegeta being more consistent is imo better ( revive is really important too, very possible scenario: use whis 1st turn, use whis 3-4 turn, get revive on like turn 6-7 and finish the boss next turn)
@@RecruitMeat I just realized, for his build, since he has special equips it's not a good idea to go all the way for dodge because you can "only" get 15 and maybe 20 with a silver equip which makes his dodge go from 70% to 76% if i did my maths correctly ( could be wrong) which is so insignificant compared to the damage an additional attack provides, knowing it's a guaranteed crit too, just why put full dodge??
There’s nothing that makes me more mad in this game of when they make such cool active skill and animation, just for them to be locked under ridiculous conditions
I think I just thought of the best way they could've done a Beast Gohan back when Fraudhan came out... Do it like Piccolo. A rage mode where Gohan goes beast for a few turns, where he can't take damage. his normal super attack could be the kick, and his Ultra super attack could be the Special Beam Cannon
8:34
is this really the reason why they never released any other extrem chars for anniversary?
if so that a really stupid reason
i am 100% sure if they made a busted extreme character everybody would summon for him
but if they put all their budget and ideas into super units no wonder nobody is going for the extreme banner if the unit sucks compared to the super counterpart
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Love the content man keep it up
That namek saga vegita revive COOKS. If his eza is not good, I will be very angry.
" I'm you opponent, ok " I'm your opponent, ..... " ok good night guys
OK I'm sorry but 5:11 HOW DO YOU MESS UP THE WORD CAPABLE
Cell is still *insanely* good, speaking as someone who has both rainbowed.
- cell transformation is way easier than gohan
- great ape vegeta was better than goku since day 1 (but people only think about damage for nothing, str super vegeta "best character in the game" is the proof)
I like Phy Ultimate Gohan and Teq Great Ape Vegeta.
I run double Gohan leads for my Super Heroes team with Teq God Goku & Vegeta, Int Pan (Kid), Str Trunks (Teen) & Goten (Teen), Teq Super Saiyan 2 Gohan (Youth), and Teq Piccolo (Power Awakening) and I just shred nearly every event I go into.
Vegeta on the other hand I run on my Saiyan Saga team with Phy Goku & Piccolo leading, and Agl Nappa/Vegeta, Phy Goku, Teq Yajirobe, and Phy Krillin. It's not as good as my Super Heroes team but they still wreck shit in most places I take them.
see, the thing with the gohan and cell release they kept both lore accurate which means gohan gets a transformation after being beat up a bit but cell gets his own form knocked out of him and with gohan having a slightly worse beating and cell a worse one, of course it's 40% hp
Quick Question, Is occasionally using English voices deliberate or do you just switch to it for fun playing?
I think he just uses whatever showcase footage he has on hand instead of recording all of it for the video
Top 10 most scuffed releases
10. Super TEQ Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta (GL)
9. LR Extreme AGL Babidi and Dabura
8. Extreme PHY Raditz
7. LR Extreme TEQ Super Saiyan Broly (GL)
6. Multiple Celebrations (1st Year Anniversary, Super AGL Super Vegito and Extreme PHY Legendary Super Saiyan Broly, 2nd Year Anniversary, Super INT Super Gogeta, and Extreme STR Super Janemba)
5. Worldwide Celebration rewards Super INT Super Saiyan Goku and Super TEQ Super Saiyan Vegeta
4. Super TEQ SSJ4 Gogeta and Extreme PHY Omega Shenron
3. Extreme STR Super Saiyan Rosé Goku Black
2. Super PHY Super Saiyan Kefla (JP)
Honorable mention:
Super TEQ Super Saiyan Blue Goku over Extreme AGL Syn Shenron on French version of Extreme STR Super Saiyan Rosé Goku Black banner (GL)
1. Super STR Super Gogeta (GL)
"Buuhan on the other hand was good, but no way near Vegito"
Yet Buuhan aged FAR better than Vegito could ever dream of, lol.
Edit: Piccolo's release should be convincing enough that even though Gohan was the top banner of the celebration, the celebration wasn't about Gohan, it was about Piccolo, and Piccolo is still nowhere close to being dethroned as the top LR in my opinion. His tanking and Giant form is just too powerful.
So much so they actually NERFED his Giant Form for the Divine Wrath and Mortal Will's event.
wait how did buuhan age better?
But buuhan didnt age better; scouter is stronger than a 10 turn stun
@@abdelazizalali5084he can stack def
Uhh nooo??
10 turn scouter with the heal was way stronger than buuhan that literally didn't even have a team lmao
Copium. Vegito aged better 10 turn scouter and heal on transformation. And damage reduction pre transform. I beat red zone omega with them when the early red zone came out
Cell was better. Buu was better as well. Dude was getting to 400k+ def in sbr, far beyter than vegito. He never took damage. Ui goku was the 2nd best unit in the game, phy buu takes no damage in the god event as to where ui goku had a chance to not take damage
5:35 imo the most disappointing release was phy raditz. Bro is still getting clowned on to this day
Poor raditz he can not rest I would love to see him get an eza and be the best unit in the game though
I will say, a better one sided eza to talk about is Str Super buu and Phy Vegito
You're correct but we're talking about unit releases not eza releases
Man I really thought krillin was Luffy for a sec, forgot they had same Japanese voice actor
I would really like to see the eza for the 6th anniversary units
Honestly I got way more use out of Krillin and Gohan
Ngl I think the str kale and teq caulifla should have been on this list
Damn it I forgot STR vegito counters everything I’ve been playing that unit wrong.
Wow I would love to use these units oh wait the medals you need to get said units are impossible to get because the bosses one shot you.
Cell was easier to transform, and as strong as gohan, remember this guys hits 1 million def and 21% damage reduction when transformed, while hitting 24+ Mil
Gohan and Cell are different but equally strong imo
Basically Dokkan fumbling extreme class characters
I cant believe there was a version of dokkan where “30 percent chance to dodge” shipped and was considered viable. Wtf😂
Dayum man its crazy that teq lr ape vegeta is the last LR vegeta we got i want a new vegeta character:(
10 TURNS OF SCOUTER?!?!
Orange piccolo is very good. I clear many events because of him.
It sux that how fast units get out meta, most of unit were unusable within a year
eza int ssbe vegeta need base 30% dmg reduction on slot 1 or 2 and 10% dmg reduction for every super on that turn max 30% and he can be good..
gohan beast is an amazing 3rd slot unit, he tanks zamasu's gruop attack and ki attacks are countered
Uhh no Gohan only "tanked" because he's int. Gohan gets demolished in the new hard-hitting content because he can't keep up with defense, and once his guard is gone, he becomes a hindrance to the whole team and his ability to get ki sucks so bad plus your relying on additional to build his damage. All in all, Gohan isn't keeping up with difficult content.
@@jamesss73yeah but being very good against the single hardest first turn in the game at least shortens the gap.
@SnailSnail-lo4pm that's not the hardest first turn in the game bud. Str vegito beats into zamasu for first turn and Gohan would get washed in there
@@jamesss73 hard hitters that can be debuffed don't beat 500k aoes.
@SnailSnail-lo4pm u can't debuff vegito that much without taking a huge amount of damage. You have to build up those stacks for it to start taking effect. Plus, zamasu only throws 1 out per turn and it doesn't take but 2 maybe 3 turns to kill off that phase
Someone over at Dokkan hates Vegeta with a passion
Tbh buuhan was better than str vegito in my opinion. I know that might be a hot take but vegito was just too underwhelming to me even though I had both 100% and even then vegito would be a glass cannon while buuhan would easily heal and block pretty much anything. But that’s just me 😅 also his counter wasn’t really all that to me unless it crit tbh which is also an rng thing cause it isn’t guaranteed.
If we're comparing like class units, Birdku and Metal Cooler Goku & Vegeta are also basically night and day tbh
Not the same release.
I don't think you get the premise of this video bud
Lr Gohan is the most overhated character in the game
He is good for the New fights atleast,but he is not overhated,he deserves the hate
@@Ocacadordecasadashe’s good……at 79%
@@b-trunksed5902 Mine is 69% 😅
@@Ocacadordecasadas mine's 55% and i still managed to beat redzone cell max and redzone rose
@@lordpatrickcalvin6759 He is really good agains that rose RZ,It is like they made It for him,bro has guard and nulification agains phase 1 and type advantage agains phase 2
More difficult to have extreme int lr cell transformation!?!??WTFDYM!?!
Cells transformation isn't too hard but can be different at times but funnily enough I actually think Buutenks is better than STR vegito as of rn due to his stacking though it could be because my buutenks is rainbowed
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@@mexicanguy727can I get one too?
It's 50% correction for the Mui Goku
70%*
I disagree with buuhan, he was still top 2 on release
Question, What does scouter mean dokkan terms?
having a scouter on means that you can see where the enemy is going to super attack. It's good if you want to prioritize putting a tanking unit in front of supers. however, it's not as overpowered as this youtuber is making it out to be. Str super vegito has no damage reduction and get clapped in any difficult content
@@RecruitMeat thanks
What is your phone model?
Nah Vegeta/Goku sucked. Back then having a unit change class was a big problem. I used Gohan and Krillin way more
both transformed i firmly believe cell shits on gohan
And now at 6th aniverserry goku and vegeta ezas the roles reverserd
I dont get the gohan and krillin hate bruh-
Let's be honest, whenever Dokkan releases a new Goku and Vegeta at the same time they purposely go out of their way to make the Vegeta worse. It's bullshit really.
Without a16
Is alot easier to transform to cell then gohan
FINALLY someone did this
Funny how EZA LR Cell ended up being the better one imo
Gogeta won the battle but Janemba won the war
the spelling mistakes go crazy
Yall are straight wrong bout buuhan when he came out he was #2 in the game by far
Ok I agree with everyone accept when u said orange piccolo active skill was the best to this day. What about zamasu and future gohan
they have to be turn 5 tho, Piccolo literally negates an enemy and makes half of their health evaporate in an instant
@@munguwangu0Bro 27 seconds ago I saw your comment
@@munguwangu0nah for me piccolo does 1 mil damage with a crit giant forms just suck and are a waste of time I do appreciate the free damage but usually you just do 600k damage
@@munguwangu0 turn 5 isn’t that much turns. Plus u can’t get orange unless it’s turn 4. That’s prettty much 1 turn less. The same condition but 1 turn less pretty much
@@ChicksburghYt nah, you can get him on turn 3 and he brings way more value for a potential turn 3 active than any other active in the game
I wish i could get agl lr gohan’s transformation 😢
I get cells transformation consistently. Way more than gohan. He shouldn’t be on this list.
i forgot about the krillen and gohan LR they’re horrible lmao
Wait you guys afk farm hard events??? For what?
There sure are some......"interesting" opinions in this video......
2:25 whith 💀
Cell transformatjkn is not harder than gohan what
cell charges more than Gohan on average, he can charge 70/60 million in a turn
@@gobbo1033-il-simp what?
@@RecruitMeat 30mln and two special of 25
Cell is way easier to transform than Gohan tbh
Can someone tell me what a scouter is
When you can see where the Boss will super attack this is an ability
bruh really you put vegito above buuhan? buuhan literally was the strongest character of the game for a whole years, surpassed only by agl fpf and int goku. vegito before eza never tanked a single attack and took 30k from every normal attack, wym vegito was stronger than buuhan?
Wym ui goku got outshined by namek goku and fp frieza they are way better than him
LR Cell is easy to get his transformation. Gohan not so much
Eza gohan still one of the best cards
Can anyone tell me scouter cando
It’s canon
9th Anni buts it’s a remake of Str Gogeta and INT Janemba
Str Gogeta: Ki+3 HP, ATK and DEF+150%; an additional Hp,Atk, and Def+50% for those in “Movie Heroes” category
Intro Passive: All Allies’ Ki+1 and ATK&DEF+20% for the rest of the battle; launches and additional super attack for 5 turns at start of the character’s appearance,
ATK&DEF+230% and effective against all types; Def+20% and Damage Received -40% as the first attacker, launches additional attack that has a high chance of becoming a super attack and an additional ATK&DEF+100 as the 2nd attacker, Guaranteed to Dodge all attacks as the 3rd attacker, Recovers 5% hp per attack evaded
SA effect: Greatly Raises Atk&def for 3 turn and great chance to perform a critical.
INT Janemba: Extreme Class Type Ki+4 HP, ATK & DEF+170; an additional HP+30% and ATK&DEF+50% for those in the “movie bosses” category
Intro Passive: Extreme Class Allies’ Def+30% for the rest of the battle; ATK&DEF+50% and Great chance to evade all attacks for 4 turns
Guards all attacks and Extreme Class Allies’ Ki+3 ATK&DEF+40%; Damage Received -20%, ATK&DEF+50% as the first attack; ATK&DEF +75% as the second attacker; ATK&DEF+100% as the third attacker, damage received +5%(up to 20%) per attack received. Starting from the 5th turn and onward, nullifies all enemy negative effects(stun,seal, aoe, atk&def lowering, all that good shit)
SA Effect: Massively Raises ATK&DEF and greatly lowers enemy attack
Just wanted to get creative with the passives, but I’d definitely want the 1st years as remakes for the 9th Anni.
Not a bad idea but Gogeta already had y7 so maybe 1 more Vegito for y 9 after that give Gogeta love too^^
@@Tom020894
For WWC we could get remakes of AGL Vegito and PHY Broly
Agl type Ki+3 HP, ATK & DEF+300%
PHY type Ki+3 HP, ATK & DEF +300%
@@YhwachTheAlmighty.Woah now partner we need to get past 9th anni golden week and tannabata before we get into the next world wide