I want both of them in TK8. I don't play TK so I haven't fully experienced Marduk's annoying kit but I definitely don't want him to be absent. Marduk and Steve are the only two TK4 characters who have their own styles so yeah, Marduk shouldn't and won't be left out
I'm going to be frank with you guys, I initially didn't think MainMan'd react to this one because of how much he dislikes Lei. Thanks for the react Main Man!
I love lei. He definitely deserves his reputation as a party animal type character but thats cuz thats literally Jackie chans style in all his movies lol, but he's also tricky to play because he gets blown up by randomly ducking, he has like 0 +frame moves that do anything for him and he's always unsafe, even if a move looks safe or even plus, u can probably jab before he can do anything or even dick jab. Yea he's annoying to face but he's so easy to blow up, and he struggles to get in so if you just backdash even once, he can't reach you with anything. Literaly one single backdash and a df2 will whiff punish 99% of lei's moves, and razor rush is super easy to step/interrupt, and if he really "just spams a couple strings" then why is he so hard for everyone to fight? If its just a couple strings he spams it should be easy to learn then no? Not to mention anytime he transitions into stances he's usually neutral at the most. Which means anytime u see his stance bs u can just dick jab him out of it. Ik he won't be in 8 and yea it'll suck that he will miss a tekken game for the first time but I'm tired of everyone treating lei like he's somehow any worse than facing a Kazuya with good 50/50 pressure or zafina or even Feng, but you don't hear anyone get as mad about them as lei even tho they have wayyyy better tools for pressure and range in addition to 50/50 bs, can't we admit that fighting lei isn't as bad as everyone makes it seem? Cuz realistically it comes down to nothing but 50/50 and there are plenty of other Characters with the exact same game plan that don't get hate like lei does
Lei main since Tekken 2 and I hope he's on every base roster from now till the heat death of the universe. By then he'll have about 200 stances and playing him will require a PhD and an IV drip.
As a Lei player. Lei is not hard to WIN with, he is hard to MASTER! You can win with him easily with a few flows because people don't know the matchup. But if you actually want to MASTER him, it takes way more time than most other characters. Fight against another Lei and it will often show you just how crappy your Lei is.
Just because he's annoying doesn't change the fact he's an iconic Tekken character and a huge part of it's history, he should be in 8 no matter what in my opinion! Also no one plays Kuma or Panda either but they're still there so that argument is irrelevant.
Also, people rarely play yoshimitsu too but they still add him. Also he says no one plays him but if you go on PSN a lot of people play him. And little does he know, you can interrupt him on transition easy. More proof he just hates stance characters.
I've been a Lei main since Tekken 3. I've always loved Jackie Chan movies and Lei is essentially Tekken's Jackie Chan. I was devastated when he wasn't in Tekken 7 at launch. I hope he comes back in Tekken 8.
You said "he's Tekken's Jackie Chan" but what other game have such a good Jackie Chan interpretation? I would rather not have Law in Tekken because every other fighting game have some Bruce Lee clone.
These complaints can be made about literally any character in the game. ANY character can meme and troll. True Lei mains are still out here. We made it happen in T7, and I so hope we can make it happen in T8! -An honorable Lei main.
Lei isnt too hard, those who say it dont play other fighting games with some actually hard characters to play. Tekken 8 Lei is going to be great, dont care if hes bad. Il be playing him.
Same, It’s pretty funny when people complain about him and I definitely see it but the worst is Zanfina. anyone with matchup knowledge will know that most of his moves can just be duck mid string and He is very slow and without animal stances which most wouldn’t let him get in, the wheels on him start to fall off.
I like lei because he is exactly what Tekken is supposed to be about. Martial arts. This character pays a great homage to the Kung Fu and all the styles and stances. I really love characters based on martial arts even if they are annoying to play against. This versatility regarding martial arts and how people can be expressive by million different ways playing this game is what makes it the greatest fighting game of all time.
Lei exemplifies the "art" in martial arts. I'm glad that there are those in the Tekken community that still appreciate martial arts and don't yell "boring" when a character doesn't do anime shenanigans.
I love Lei Wu Long my favorite character in the game They give him crap but Xiayou and Yoshi are just as bad only difference they hit harder in buffs If they buffed Lei like the other fun characters he would be higher
I’m one of those people that think Lei should be in in there. I don’t really play as him but I think he’s a lot more fun to play as then Marduk lol and I would like the option to play at Lei. I 100% need Lee to be in T8 though because that’s my boy right there.
Lmao! If you don't know how to deal with Lei players that your problem. This isn't mean that Lei is Trash or he shouldn't be in Tekken 8 due to low character usage etc. These are lame excuses. You're playing Tekken for decades and still don't know how to deal with lei players. As far as I concerned, It's a shame that you couldn't figure that out. There are several character like Kuma, panda, Yoshi, Xiaoyu etc. You rarely play against these character in rank, session or in tournament. so, what's your thoughts about these character? they shouldn't in tekken 8 or what?
Yeah, the worst thing about TMM is his bias, (which you'd think at 37 he wouldn't have such petty bias like that but hey, who am I kidding, adults are less sensible than even children but oh well I digress), and honestly I brushed it off before but now it's really starting to show and it's off putting, also hello fellow Greek
I mean character popularity can be affected by many factors. Their relevance in the story, their physical design, how strong they are in game, etc. There are plenty of characters in the series that weren't that popular that have gained huge followings due yo changes on the design teams end. A low pick rate could be bamcos fault as much as it is the player base
For me. Lei is one of the STAPLE Tekken characters. all of the ones based off real martial artists should be, (Marshall, Lei, etc.) should always be on the roster.
It clearly means you have no love for Tekken.. lei is iconic and there are lot of players who play as Lei.. Namco knows people will pay for lei..lei has amazing fighting style
@@frantschou2369so just because he said something that has no actual backing, it's true? He doesn't even understand you can interrupt lei on block into transition but you back his wording 🤨🤦🏾♂️.
Thing is if it's a no one plays him and is annoying character then you'd get rid of Bear's, Lili, Chloe, Xiaoyu etc. Personally as annoying as he is being close to a original tekken lad he should be on the roaster and no lads, I don't play Lei, strictly Electric lad C:
Lei is easily the most fun character in Tekken. I don’t get how you can hate him. Unless I suppose you are more focused in being a Tekken pro than enjoying playing Tekken. Cos he’s easily the most fun.
Tbh technically completely mastering Lei takes alot of time, ALOT of time. Learning all his moves, his stances. Sadly however it is quite easy to win with Lei because of his usage rate so I don't know if anyone has truly mastered this character
adding Lei in T7 is a master piece of a character what they do with him! for the beauty of the art !! no one plays him but we have him in the game and its beautiful ... its not all about spend money for goal sometime its just about love or heart its good for human being
Lei should be in 8. And I'll say if ppl get kill by leí they're the one who are flowcharting like scrubs, you can't flowchart againts leí. And btw the hellweep of leí isn't homing, isn't even track a little, just ppl not put even 1 minute to fucking lab. 😂
Lei is a legacy character. Anyone who doesn't want him in Tekken 8 is simply lame. I played him in Tekken 2 and 3. I no longer play him, but he's absolutely an integral part of the series.
he doesn't want any character in the game that beats him, if he doesn't know the matchup he doesn't want the character in the game, i'm surprised nobody calls him out on his scrub mentality and scrub quoting
I just can’t stand how ugly they made him. I wouldn’t mind if they replace him with a younger, more attractive drunken fighter but yeah I love his goofiness.
Honey, read the comments. Everyone loves lei. He’s a pain to learn but once you got him, he slows for a lot of creativity and overall fun. Idc if I win I like taking shots while they miss theirs 🤣
Lei is the Jackie Chan to Laws Bruce Lee. It's like a guilty pleasure.
Team Lei Wulong main since T2! ✊🏼
Right here with you brother!
I would play Lei a lot more if half the stance options were intuitive.
7:03 Battle of cancers
Lei is the best Jackie Chan tribute in gaming. It would be shame to give it up.
Lei Wulong is the greatest
@@user-fm3xr9yz3ido you think he'll be inT8?
Makes me wonder if Jackie even knows.
Can't have Bruce Lee without Jackie Chan
based
It’s been that way since they entered the dragon
@@PUSHAPABLOwhen the master is drunk
Waiting for Tekken 8 Lei Wulong Experience
Michael Murray said they are choosing characters for unique moveset, not only usage rate, theres chance Lei is coming back
I hope playing against him. He’s fun to play too
I’ll take Lei over Marduk all day.
Factual 💯💯💯
Interesting
Agree
I want both of them in TK8. I don't play TK so I haven't fully experienced Marduk's annoying kit but I definitely don't want him to be absent. Marduk and Steve are the only two TK4 characters who have their own styles so yeah, Marduk shouldn't and won't be left out
@@shadowclonemaster bruh this is exactly what mms said u dont even play tekken but characters just need to be in the select screen for some reason
I’m a lei main since T2.
If he’s not in it I don’t get the game
You and me both mate. Lei main forever.
@@matthew3950 That makes 3 of us. No Lei, no play
exactly. I didn't bought T7 until they added him back in it, and same will be for T8 If he's not in T8 then I don't give a fuck about the game.
Too emotional mainman, that is what Lei mains count on.
I'm going to be frank with you guys, I initially didn't think MainMan'd react to this one because of how much he dislikes Lei.
Thanks for the react Main Man!
And he reacts only to whine about him lmao.
@@Havoc_279HAHAHA, can you really blame him tho
Lei gang Lei gang!
He from Indonesian 👌
i got 18 years with lei, i dont care if they make him low tier, he is my man!
I love lei. He definitely deserves his reputation as a party animal type character but thats cuz thats literally Jackie chans style in all his movies lol, but he's also tricky to play because he gets blown up by randomly ducking, he has like 0 +frame moves that do anything for him and he's always unsafe, even if a move looks safe or even plus, u can probably jab before he can do anything or even dick jab. Yea he's annoying to face but he's so easy to blow up, and he struggles to get in so if you just backdash even once, he can't reach you with anything. Literaly one single backdash and a df2 will whiff punish 99% of lei's moves, and razor rush is super easy to step/interrupt, and if he really "just spams a couple strings" then why is he so hard for everyone to fight? If its just a couple strings he spams it should be easy to learn then no? Not to mention anytime he transitions into stances he's usually neutral at the most. Which means anytime u see his stance bs u can just dick jab him out of it. Ik he won't be in 8 and yea it'll suck that he will miss a tekken game for the first time but I'm tired of everyone treating lei like he's somehow any worse than facing a Kazuya with good 50/50 pressure or zafina or even Feng, but you don't hear anyone get as mad about them as lei even tho they have wayyyy better tools for pressure and range in addition to 50/50 bs, can't we admit that fighting lei isn't as bad as everyone makes it seem? Cuz realistically it comes down to nothing but 50/50 and there are plenty of other Characters with the exact same game plan that don't get hate like lei does
Lei is such a great flavour to the roster
Lei main since Tekken 2 and I hope he's on every base roster from now till the heat death of the universe. By then he'll have about 200 stances and playing him will require a PhD and an IV drip.
Lei is for the diversity, better than having clones or 2d charaters.
What's the point comparing different flavors of shit?
don't you dare say shit about ma 2d gurl 💀
And Lei still has the biggest move list of any character in any fighting game.
Be a shame to just give up that title.
Lei and Eddy, two of the most complex characters to master, constantly getting shit on about how big their move lists are.
Eddy + complex 🤣
Bigger than king?
@@bikerboy3k yes Lei movelist is biggest for any character in any game.
As a Lei player. Lei is not hard to WIN with, he is hard to MASTER! You can win with him easily with a few flows because people don't know the matchup. But if you actually want to MASTER him, it takes way more time than most other characters. Fight against another Lei and it will often show you just how crappy your Lei is.
I'm a....uh.....I'm a Lei main.
I want him back!
Lei mains unite! Lol
Sorry fam. Gotta learn to play this time.
Just because he's annoying doesn't change the fact he's an iconic Tekken character and a huge part of it's history, he should be in 8 no matter what in my opinion!
Also no one plays Kuma or Panda either but they're still there so that argument is irrelevant.
@@uchihafan849 so what you're saying is that tekken should only have mishima characters? lol
@@GRGCompletionist just because he is a legacy character doesn't mean he is a good character legacy dick riding is the dumbest shit
iconic doesnt mean much and they should remove bears all together with lei
@@BustedHax nah Lei has a lot of reasons to stay in the game, most notably his fighting style. Bears on the other hand have nothing
Also, people rarely play yoshimitsu too but they still add him. Also he says no one plays him but if you go on PSN a lot of people play him. And little does he know, you can interrupt him on transition easy. More proof he just hates stance characters.
We need Lei back
I've been a Lei main since Tekken 3. I've always loved Jackie Chan movies and Lei is essentially Tekken's Jackie Chan. I was devastated when he wasn't in Tekken 7 at launch. I hope he comes back in Tekken 8.
You said "he's Tekken's Jackie Chan" but what other game have such a good Jackie Chan interpretation? I would rather not have Law in Tekken because every other fighting game have some Bruce Lee clone.
A lot of adults play lei, kids don’t play him because you have to be strategic.
I want Lei to come back just for the lols.
And I hope you would to have to fight every single one of them, and only them, just for the lols.
I relish the mirror match
Please no
There's no Tekken without a nice Yoshi vs Lei match every now and then
@@tacitozetticci9308 thisss💖
Character usage isn't the same as character popularity.
Just accept it.
He's a iconic character. I hope he returns in Tekken 8.
These complaints can be made about literally any character in the game. ANY character can meme and troll.
True Lei mains are still out here.
We made it happen in T7, and I so hope we can make it happen in T8!
-An honorable Lei main.
Lei is my main, I love playing him and I'll not be buying T8 if he doesn't come back.
Lei isnt too hard, those who say it dont play other fighting games with some actually hard characters to play.
Tekken 8 Lei is going to be great, dont care if hes bad. Il be playing him.
TMM really must hate Lei to use MARDUCK as the fking example as someone the devs should be 'putting resources into' my god
Joseph Joestar: “Next you’ll say, he was only joking! TMM was only being sarcastic”
He was only joking! TMM was only being sarcastic.
@@BlackJustice2637 N A N I!?!??
Cuz marduk is used more than him. That's the joke.
@@NkodtbMarduk is also used More than master raven and yoshimitsu (according to a very specific data range that mainman takes as fact)
I want Lei back because I've been a Lei main since Tekken Tag 1.
I do not even play him and wanna see him back. He is fun troll character to have in the roaster.
@@zangana3052 I've played him in tournament and done well!
@@songoku2711 wont believe u until you prove it
@@sharranramesh2601 I don't have to prove anything to you. You don't have to believe anything anyone says online.
Me too, I play him since T3
I main lei.
Same, It’s pretty funny when people complain about him and I definitely see it but the worst is Zanfina. anyone with matchup knowledge will know that most of his moves can just be duck mid string and He is very slow and without animal stances which most wouldn’t let him get in, the wheels on him start to fall off.
Yes he is obnoxious that’s why I love him, he’s very evasive. Every time I fight people I Vogue and death drop.
He is an iconic character, cry more mainman
Make Lei Great In Tekken 8!
Lei fans unite!
I like lei because he is exactly what Tekken is supposed to be about. Martial arts. This character pays a great homage to the Kung Fu and all the styles and stances. I really love characters based on martial arts even if they are annoying to play against. This versatility regarding martial arts and how people can be expressive by million different ways playing this game is what makes it the greatest fighting game of all time.
You mean mashing arts lmao
Lei exemplifies the "art" in martial arts. I'm glad that there are those in the Tekken community that still appreciate martial arts and don't yell "boring" when a character doesn't do anime shenanigans.
I love Lei Wu Long my favorite character in the game
They give him crap but Xiayou and Yoshi are just as bad only difference they hit harder in buffs
If they buffed Lei like the other fun characters he would be higher
Lei trolling in game goes super well with him being the tribute of Jackie Chan
Lei has an unique fighting style. He must be in Tekken 8 -)
I’m one of those people that think Lei should be in in there. I don’t really play as him but I think he’s a lot more fun to play as then Marduk lol and I would like the option to play at Lei.
I 100% need Lee to be in T8 though because that’s my boy right there.
Lmao! If you don't know how to deal with Lei players that your problem. This isn't mean that Lei is Trash or he shouldn't be in Tekken 8 due to low character usage etc. These are lame excuses. You're playing Tekken for decades and still don't know how to deal with lei players. As far as I concerned, It's a shame that you couldn't figure that out. There are several character like Kuma, panda, Yoshi, Xiaoyu etc. You rarely play against these character in rank, session or in tournament. so, what's your thoughts about these character? they shouldn't in tekken 8 or what?
With that logic mainman yoshi shouldn't be in tekken 8 because noone plays him!People who would uproar for yoshi would be in the wrong!
Yeah, the worst thing about TMM is his bias, (which you'd think at 37 he wouldn't have such petty bias like that but hey, who am I kidding, adults are less sensible than even children but oh well I digress), and honestly I brushed it off before but now it's really starting to show and it's off putting, also hello fellow Greek
Yoshi is a fuckin classic and way harder than Lei. Lei is such a Clown
Lei is actually my favorite. Would be nice to see him in 8.
I mean character popularity can be affected by many factors. Their relevance in the story, their physical design, how strong they are in game, etc. There are plenty of characters in the series that weren't that popular that have gained huge followings due yo changes on the design teams end. A low pick rate could be bamcos fault as much as it is the player base
too much scrub quoting in this video, only scrub lords think Lei shouldn't be in the game...too much scrub mentality going on here
Videos like this are why Lei needs to come back.
For me. Lei is one of the STAPLE Tekken characters. all of the ones based off real martial artists should be, (Marshall, Lei, etc.) should always be on the roster.
I play Lei and he was the only reason I bought ANY DLC :(( He is OG tekken 3 character and so fun to play
Also we got Bruce Lee as Law and Jackie as Lei. You cant just remove them :(
No Lei No Plei
If you hate Lei, then I hate TMM.
Lei should Always be in Tekken.
He is a Tekken staple ☝️
It clearly means you have no love for Tekken.. lei is iconic and there are lot of players who play as Lei.. Namco knows people will pay for lei..lei has amazing fighting style
We want lei in tekken 8 opposed to lucky chloe
I play Lei wulong
Lei is the best Tekken character by far
Lei is my other bby. Next to Kazuya lolol
Fucking sameeee
I wasn’t about to comment , BUT IM A LEI MAIN . WE NEED JACKIE CHANN IN T8
If lei is gone, then yoshi should go as well
we need lei for tekken 8
No we don’t, that’s literally what Mainman explained lmao.
@@frantschou2369yes we do
@@frantschou2369so just because he said something that has no actual backing, it's true? He doesn't even understand you can interrupt lei on block into transition but you back his wording 🤨🤦🏾♂️.
I main Lei! I want him in base t8! Stop your anti lei campaign!
Lei is classic and one of the more unique characters in the game. He should always be in tekken...and no...I don't play him...
Why hate on legendary characters because they're difficult to play against? How about get better?
Thing is if it's a no one plays him and is annoying character then you'd get rid of Bear's, Lili, Chloe, Xiaoyu etc. Personally as annoying as he is being close to a original tekken lad he should be on the roaster and no lads, I don't play Lei, strictly Electric lad C:
I See Lei 24/7 in ranked. I know every single fucking flowchart bc i ate them all :(
Adapt and overcome and grudge match until they wont
cry harder
Lei is easily the most fun character in Tekken. I don’t get how you can hate him. Unless I suppose you are more focused in being a Tekken pro than enjoying playing Tekken. Cos he’s easily the most fun.
Tmm if lei makes it to t8 then i will unsubscribe your channel
I support this petition.
Silly characters are important for a fun experience. Can't be serious all the time.
Tbh technically completely mastering Lei takes alot of time, ALOT of time. Learning all his moves, his stances. Sadly however it is quite easy to win with Lei because of his usage rate so I don't know if anyone has truly mastered this character
i wish lei wulong in tekken 8👍🤩
adding Lei in T7 is a master piece of a character what they do with him! for the beauty of the art !! no one plays him but we have him in the game and its beautiful ... its not all about spend money for goal sometime its just about love or heart its good for human being
Lei is my main sooo stop hatin man
Lei should be in 8.
And I'll say if ppl get kill by leí they're the one who are flowcharting like scrubs, you can't flowchart againts leí.
And btw the hellweep of leí isn't homing, isn't even track a little, just ppl not put even 1 minute to fucking lab. 😂
As a Lei main I love this edit 😂
Lei is a legacy character. Anyone who doesn't want him in Tekken 8 is simply lame. I played him in Tekken 2 and 3. I no longer play him, but he's absolutely an integral part of the series.
he doesn't want any character in the game that beats him, if he doesn't know the matchup he doesn't want the character in the game, i'm surprised nobody calls him out on his scrub mentality and scrub quoting
@@ThisRemindsMeOfaJokeExactly, he doesn't even know you can hopkick lei on his transitions
Judging by this comments section. I am not the only one who mains Lei, good to know. I have three mains: Lei, King and Law.
You can cry all you want. We love Lei 😌
Lei main for life
naw he will be but he will be DLC like season 3. lol no one plays him cause he takes mastery stfu.. lol
I hope they waste the 1 mil dolla billies into him i wanna see him in tekken 8.
I like lei when doing drunk randoms with my mates
He better be in 8
I WANT THIS MAN BACK IN THE ROSTER
6:12 That's 21 Pilots lead singer lmao
It takes times to get the ideas, find ways to apply them, make them gel into each other, Peng is a workaholic
misses 80 RA in a row standing in fron of the opponent
"why didn't he RA?" 💀💀
Ive played only lei since tekken 3.
It's not about how often people play a character. It's about sending a message.
I just want Bruce back bruh
I just can’t stand how ugly they made him. I wouldn’t mind if they replace him with a younger, more attractive drunken fighter but yeah I love his goofiness.
We get it. You don’t like lei.
Honey, read the comments. Everyone loves lei. He’s a pain to learn but once you got him, he slows for a lot of creativity and overall fun. Idc if I win I like taking shots while they miss theirs 🤣
One of your comments made it click why I really like Lei, I really like imposing my ganeplan and dictating the pace of the match
No plays him, but he's my main since im fing 3 year old bro. Im atrocious at the game, but why can't I have my main :(
Yes, just Delete this Legacy-character Bandai Namco, because Mister TMM doesn’t like him.. 😏
5:22 Nah, Chloe´s the cheapest Charecter out there, until the opponent knows how to avoit one move, then it gets hard xD
Marduk wtf, boring and annoying as hell,id rather have lei than have marduk and feng combined lol
mainman stay hating characters with more moves than kazuya
I play Lei exclusively